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For the x intercept, plug in y = 0 and solve for x
Or you can can solve for x than plug in y = 0
same for the y intercept but solving for y instead
im sorry i didnt understood this
yeah
So solve for something you reverse it to solve for a variable
So $6y - 3x = 5$ if you add 5x to both sides you get $6y - 3x + 3x = 5 + 3x$ and the -3x + 3x on the left side cancel out leaving $6y = 5 + 3x$
dragonbreath
Do you know how to "get rid" of transfer the 6 from the left side to the right side
okayy i got this
divide 6 from both sides ?
Yep!
im getting y = x+5/2
?
$\frac{3x + 5}{6}$
dragonbreath
$\frac{3x}{6} + \frac{5}{6}$
dragonbreath
Also, sorry if I disappear, it's 3am
thats very kind of you helping others at this time
oh
Those two I sent above are equal statements
im so stupid that i divided 6 with 3x forgetting that they are unlike terms
Well
$\frac{3}{6}x$ is equal to $\frac{3x}{6}$
dragonbreath
Yeah
incorrrect, the slope shouldn't be positive
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then do u do ibp?
isnt required
the rational expression is broken down into sums of two easy to expressions
that can be integrated directly
4x^2/2x+1 can be written as (2x-1)+ 1/(2x+1)
Yeah in that soln I tried u sub
But idk where exactly I went wrong
i;m trying to figure that out first
u get this with a -3/4 added but it can just be considered a constant
oh okay, that's good, so i just picked a tougher method but my math checks out?
yeah
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i still need help with question 8
what ive done so far
is
name the centers of the circle C1 C2 C3 from biggest radii to smallest
then the lines C1 C3 and C1 C2
im not sure how to find the radii after?
sorry
typo
question 8
if anyone can help me?
@here?
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i got it
use pythagoreom to solve for x
substitue x in x + r2 = 4 and solve for r2
ans: ||r2 = 1||
after that, do the same with drawing C1C3
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feel like ive seen this question before when i was in 6th grade haha
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this thing is related to Assembly Language Program,
i dont get the solution
i mean its kinda incomplete
can somebody check it ?
please ?
the first image shows the method that how do we conclude if its even or odd
also ask me fullform of any mnemonics if you dont get it
RRC is Rotate Right Acculumator, right?
Yes
You have to consider the decimal representation of a binary number
For example
1011 in base 2 is 2^3 + 2^1 + 1
mhm
Everything before the one is a factor of 2
true
I'm not familiar with 8085 but you'll just need to figure out instructions are used for comparison
Branching actually
cause i have doubt in the JMP code
Yeah
I have a tab open right now. I could take a look
i will deduce what i am confused with;
so we JUMP to SKIP if there is no carry ( which mean the number is even)
At the SKIP step we increased the H-L counter ( moved to C001H )
and then in the next step me loaded C001H with E ( but here we defined E just two lines above, which was 00h ; which is for odd) but we just loaded E even tho the number is even
@hollow quarry is the SKIP statement limited to that line only? or we have to do all the below lines for it
Remember, I'm not familiar with 8086 so you'll have explain some things
sure, ask me
What's the HL counter?
Its a register pair
and the the stack is somewhat like this ( the address is different ) sake of illustration
Could I see the full solution if that's alright?
Oh okay, that makes more sense. I was a little confused about what were values and addresses
sadly thats the whole solution given 😦
Oh I see. Does the question at least specify what addresses/registers to write the output to? Like if it's even, do you write a particular value to a specific register?
yeah we have to write at C001H
even --> FFH
odd--> 00H
till this line,
on very first line we defined some E register
we have our number from C000H to H-L
then we moved the data ( M is contents of H-L) of H-L to accumulator
then we did RRC
its fine till now
Ever used the JC instruction?
Alright, I think I understand what comes next
my first time
i mean i know how it works, but cant really understand stuff goin on here
you can explain to me for more clarity, i might be missing some stuff too
So JC is essentially a JMP that only makes the jump if the carry = 1
So right after the RRC,
RRC
JC odd_branch
; even stuff here
We'll only jump to the odd_branch if Cy = 1
yeah i get it
Within odd_branch, we can store FF H in C001H
Is all that clear? I can elaborate further
uhm wait a sec lemme think
RRC
JC odd_branch ( this has to be on single line ?? , storing FF H in C001H has to be in one line ?)
; even stuff here
by one line , i mean
it has to be done in one single code ?
here, the guy defined SKIP ( the same as odd_branch you mentioned )
and later on when defining it, it has 1 more line beneath it ?
is it part of SKIP ?
Tbh, I'm not sure. The formatting is kinda weird. Doesn't matter though. The program will just execute the next instruction after skip anyway
So in a way, it is
i see, i think i will just skip this prog. for now and move on
i have about 20 more to go
so i think maybe after doing all of that i will understand it and get used to the notations
mhm say ?
JNC SKIP ---|
MVI E, 00H |
|
SKIP: <-----|
INC H
MOV M, E
HLT
mhm that might be the case most probably
I noticed INX isn't an 8086 instruction as well. Seems like a typo
also notice, we just set E as 00H
and at skip we just used the same value of E ??
might be, did not checked
it just changes the value of HL from C000H to C001H ( just increment )
@hollow quarry @hollow quarry dude we just need to know one single thing and the whole question is solved
should i explain ?
JUST FORGET ALL THE CRAP TILL NOW
Yeah go on
this is the first line;
we defined some Reg E with value of FFH ( notice that this is answer if the number is even)
this line is just below the JNC line;
we defined it to be 00H
this is second last line;
WHAT value of E should we consider here ? ( the comment says FFH, but we already changed it to 00H just few lines above)
Right, so it remains FF if Cy = 0
I don't understand why we even need that MOV tho
Is this like a IF,ELSE statement ?
is MVI E, 00H applied when the carry is there
and
INC H
MOV M, E
HLT
applied when the carry is not there ?
prioritize this thing
Yeah it's like an if else statement but the structure isn't what you proposed
It's more like
If carry is there: { MVI E 00H }
INC H
MOV M, E
HLT
The stuff in skip will execute unconditionally
But the MVI E 00H is only executed when cy = 1
Another thing: "MOV M, E" looks like it's the wrong way round
YOO
thanks
it was just the bad writing way
😭
oh my god
the guy writing these answer maybe just copied the text as it is

Probably lol
oof
this thing helped
@hollow quarry you are a great guy, even after not having full knowledge of these things
you pulled it off
chad
bye have a great day
Ahaha you are welcome
you wanna say smth? or should i just close ?
?
The last line "MOV M, E", should that actually be a mov in the first place?
I thought you were meant to write to C001H
But MOV can only read from addresses(and registers) as far as I'm aware
yeah it should be mov,
what we did is, we first moved on to C001H ( INX statement )
then M is pointing at C001H only ( because M is contents of HL its the same thing)
when M is at C001H we did the mov thing
Ohhhh I see
Didn't realise MOV could do that
Well, that's cleared. Thanks and Glad I could help!
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How would I be able to prove $X(\omega)$ is only defined if $x(t)e^{i\omega t} \to 0$ as $R \to \infty$?
KySquared
I tried integration by parts but that would involve needing either the derivative or the integral of x
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why/how did we get n*(1/(n-1))?
A^2=nA so they replaced A^2 with that
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thats a 2 by 2 matrix
fact: for a n by n matrix A, A^2=nA
@fallow adder can you try and prove this?
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All good ronaldo
For which one
ok
ill fix that
wait thats what i put u just cant see it well cuz of my photo
Oh ye indeed
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where did i mess up in this question
thats what i did
but when i check using a online calculator it gives me
confused on the numerator on how it got that
please check the first line of your calculation
did i mess up on the xy inside cos?
used product rule
f(x)*g'(x) + f'(x)g(x)
x1(y') + 1(y)
xy'+y?
ohh so i cant move that y like that
Yeah it's just from the chain rule. You multiply cos(xy) by the derivative of xy, which is (xy' + y).
I guess the only difference is that when you move your y to the other side in line 2, you'll be moving y * cos(xy) instead.
hmm still stuck on how to isolate for y' to give me that numerator
cause now i can only divide no?
factoring out the y'
It's the same thing you did, but once you distribute the cos(xy) you'll get that y * cos(xy) term.
ohhh im so dumb
Then you can bring that to the other side and proceed as you had already done
i get what your saying, thank you!
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Could someone help me understand the proof of convergence for this
was confused how they got this term using MVT
and g`(c) turns into alpha because it is bounded by 1 right?
no it turns into alpha because it is bounded by some constant
this is the theorem for fixed point
so
a continous function on a closed interval has a derivative at all places right
how so
yea
so a derivative in a closed and bounded interval implies a set of derivative values along that interval right
then you can set the max of that to alpha
no g'(c) is just the derivative of g at c
yea
but we know that its bounded by some value
which we can denote as alpha
and note they use a less than equal sign
which is the highest derivative possible between a and b
because all g'(c) <= alpha
yes
oh that makes sense
but how did we get to this term
from g(x) - g(x^*)
USING
MVT
oh its f`(c) * b-a = f(b) - f(a)
the g(x) isnt a big deal. it essentially just mapping a function to the sequence which is relevant since in the next step we care abt the derivative of that function
so if i have a bunch of values a_k, i can just put g(k) = a_k
and use the sequence of g(k)
what?
like you asked how to get to this term right
so imagine x_k is a sequence (i will use a specific case here to build the intuition)
so imagine x_k is a sequence 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 and k=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
s that means x_10 = 10
x_1 = 1
imagine i just make this a function instead, g(k)
so now the sequence x_k is equivalent essentially to the function
in the question x_k is a CONTINUOUS Sequence , so we can build a CONTINUOUS function from it
for example here
fixed point convergeswhen g`(x) < 1
which is |x| < 1
so how is hte interval of converges (-1,1)?
shouldnt it be anything less than 1
no the magnitude of the derivatives have to be less than 1
(a,b) means not incuding a to b
so (-1,1) includes everything in between except -1 and 1 which is good because the magnitudes of those equal 1 which isn't satisfactory
what?
im lost
in this exmple
in this example
they solved for the inequality
and anything greater than -2 as the initial guess would converge
in this case since g`(x) is = x and x< 1 anything less than 1 as a initial guess should converge
how are they getting -1,1 as interval of convergence
because anything above -2 makes the value of 2x+5 bigger than 1
wym
ooooh
opposite
the derivative function is x
so anything between -1 and 1 (exclusive) makes it <1
thus convergent
no its not anything
which is (-inf, 1)
how are u getting this
im so lost
because the derivative function g'(x) is x right
i want u to go step by step so say yes/no after every line
so yes/no ?
yes
now we get that it converges if the absolute value of the derivative function is less than 1 right
yes
imp distinction its not actually the derivative function, its the ABS VALUE of the derivative function
which implies the MAGNITUDE of the derivative function is less than 1
so now in what case is the absolute value of x less than 1 ?
what values can x be ?
oh so the distance of the convergence cannot be greater than 1?
i dont know what you mean by distance of convergence
im nto sure what your trying to say here
yea the abs value of the derivative
|x|<1
yea so it has to be less than 1
x can be negative or positive
yea
and less than 1
yeah so (-inf,1)
no
How is it bounded by -1
-2 for example makes |x| >1
we take the absolute value
it all depends on the derivative function
well they square it anyways
ohh okok
i mean just do -1 / sqrt(27 - 2x) = -1 and -1 / sqrt(27 - 2x) = 1 and ull find the two cases
u can put it in desmos to just see without solving
in this case it actually doesnt matter cuz the sqrt is always positive no matter what
why -1 and 1
should we be looking at x
those are the bounds of the derivative function
i see
and did u understood what 13.5 represented
like why did they do this
27-2x > 0
cuz u have to make the sqrt positive
cuz if its negative ur gonna get an undefined
so they get that bound also
so our initial guess can be between less than 13 then?
so in this case we have two conditions
- x < 13.5 ( This implies the sqrt function is positive)
- x < 13 (implies derivative function magnitude < 1)
this just amounts to x<13 cuz the first one becomes redundant
yea ok
thanks
👍
yea nw
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I need help
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What is your question?
You are going to need to write a concept to write the example it seems
0 clue as to what u r asking tbh
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I don’t know how to write the example lol
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Good evening everyone, I want to ask about geometric sequence/series.
The question goes by:
Every year, the percentage of growth in a population never changes since 2000 until 2012. The total number of population in 2000 is A people and in 2012, B people.
What is the total number of population in the year 2003?
a. Sqrt(A sqrt(B))
b. A sqrt(B)
c. B sqrt(A)
d. Sqrt(AB)
e. sqrt(A sqrt(AB))
I tried finding the ratio but I got root in 12 (or basically the fraction to the power of 1/12).
I tried manipulating, but to no avail
let's say the growth rate is some constant r
then in 2000, there are A people, and in 2012, there are Ar^12 people, so Ar^12 = B
then r = (B/A)^(1/12)
you got up to this point?
Yup
you multiply by r for each year
2012 is 12 years after 2000
now that you've found r in terms of A and B, you can substitute that into Ar^3 to find the population in 2003
so if you simplify A ((B/A)^(1/12))^3, you'll get your answer
I see. Thank you
Turns out i used the sum of terms instead of to find the term
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what's f(x, y) in the context of a DE? here f(x, y) = y' obviously but i dunno if that's always true or
also what's a unique solution? only one valid value of $c$ in, say, $f(x, y) = ce^x$ or whatever the general solution is?
b
This is just what the Existence and Uniqueness theorem tells you.
If you have a DE of the form y' = f(x,y), then if f and df/dy are both continuous on a region, a point (x,y) in that region will yield a unique solution. So yes, your DE has to be of the form y' = f(x,y), but I don't think there are common cases where it's not possible to write it in this way.
And by unique solution, your interpretation is essentially right. When functions are nice enough, the solutions should essentially not "cross" each other. This is desirable because for instance, when modelling physical phenomena, we don't want multiple different models for a given initial value.
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How did dh become 0.08. I think dh is 0.04
a tin can will have a sheet at the top and also the bottom
each of which is 0.04 thick
I get that part, shouldnt that double the derivative of the radius instead?
Since there's two tops of which the radii are a part of them?
theres no derivate going on here
Yeah I know its just the dr dh, I meant should dr be 0.08
dh is just another variable like h thats being used to represent the small increase in h
wouldnt that be the diameter?
why should it effect the radius
Yeah but in the formulas for cylinder we don't use diameters
Because wouldn't there be two pieces that have diameter instead of one?
Because the height is the side of the walls of the tin can going up no?
Why does having two tops double the thickness of the walls?
let me draw a diagram, maybe that will help
okok
i think youre just getting mixed up
this would be a top down view
do you see how the radius only goes through one layer of tin
and this would be a cross-section down the middle of the can
it goes through two layers of tin
nws
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my question is why (-2)^2 is 4 and (-2)^3 is -3
$(-2)^3 \neq -3$
🏳🌈f(why am i here )= idk
hmm
oh wait i meant -8
well -2 * -2 is 4
i put 3 by mistake
times -2 again you get -8
oh yeah, didnt know why i didnt get that 😅, must be tiredness, thanks for the info!
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just started matrices, is it hard or na, any tips or things that i should look out for?
well we literally JUST started today
and we got up to uh
multiplying them
Uh, That's all I learnt at school too
. DO you have more than that in your course?
no idea
but looking ahead in my powerpoint
Like is this a uni course?
If that's the case, I can't help as I'm starting uni myself in a few days
Ah, I can help with that.
oh okay sweet
i wasnt looking to do much right now cause its late
and i need to sleep
but yeah
is there anything in particular that i should look out for
like any common mistakes
Computing the inverse of a 3 by 3 matrix by hand is tedious
You can easily make mistakes!
Be careful!
mmm okok so just be extra careful with calculations
got it
ill head to sleep and prob work tomorrow
so prob expect to see me here in the coming weeks
got exams soon so yeah haha
thank you
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can i ask u bro
how to i find the domain, sound stupid question but rly need ur help ty @cunning dust
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yeah so, the length of the interval is not pi/2 right?
if i am correct, from my understanding it is slight greater/lesser than pi/2
lesser if my im correct
so the answer must be D?
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No problem
the pythogras theorem should apply here, right? its closely related
i dont get your thinking; might i ask why?
I am thinking based on a cartian system here so yeah
those are cords right in the assertion yeah? so yeah
i) All real values
ii) All real values except 5/2
iii) All real values
iv) All real values except negative numbers
v) Try urself 🙂
gimme a second lemme think
its interesting, lets talk bout it in dms, leave here
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I wish to prove the transformation law for the Riemann curvature tensor using the Christoffel Symbol definition of the components. I am able to expand the left hand side into a bunch of terms (I don't know if I did this correctly), but I am unable to find a way to cancel most of them. Can I have help here? (Levi-Civita Connection assumed)
what fuckin language is this
Lol
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silly and quick question about logarithms
6 is correct
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hello this is a physics question but has a math side
how do i calculate this output like this 10^7
Bro, how arw you calculating stress and not know what simplification is?
Basically this number is same as45600000 N/m2, but that would be funny and unpractical to write, so you move the decimal point for 7 places therefor 10^7
why 7?
Because thw number is that big?
i mean i could let it be 6
45.6
You could write is in 0.456 x 10^8 form
Yes
oh so it odnes't matter
Doesnt matter
alright thank you
You can also have MN, mega newtons which would be 10^6
So 45.6 MN / m^2
Without the 10^x
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Why angle angle side?
What 2 angles are surely equal?
it might not be inherently wrong, because you could prove 2 of the angles (other than the right ones) to be equal
but there is definitely a simpler approach
note that the triangles also share 1 side, and hence that one shared side must be same for both of them
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I came up with a series that diverges at all rational numbers but I don't know to check it for other arguments:
$\sum_{k\ge1}e^{-\pi k^2}\cot k\pi z$
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I came up with a series that diverges at all rational numbers but I don't know to check it for other arguments:
$\sum_{k\ge1}e^{-\pi k^2}\cot k\pi z$
the problem is that if z is rational, then for a large enough integer k, the term (k pi z) is a multiple of pi, which makes cot undefined
I know, but I want to find other values that make the series diverge
the series doesn't diverge. It's undefined.
There's a difference
Is it undefined when $z$ is imaginary?
MCAntDJC
didn't check that, but my suspicion is that when z is purely imaginary it might converge.
It should because then $\cot k\pi z$ will approach $i\operatorname{sgn} z$ as $k\to\infty$, so the Gaussian factor will overpower it
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Is checking for absolute convergence enough here?
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If $z$ has an imaginary part, then the summands' denominators can never vanish, and will have about the same magnitude as $e^{-\pi k^2}\tanh 2k\pi y$; thus the series can diverge only on the real line.
MCAntDJC
Ok
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The question's been neglected and I've no hope nor means to answer it myself
if your question isnt a standard textbook question, or involves math at calculus or above, there isnt much of a chance that someone can answer the question you asked
you can cheat by using a function that can get you a major step of the way there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirichlet_function
what type of math is this? Nobody can solve it lmao
I'm not sure—maybe calculus/real analysis? (I'm definitely not versed in the latter)
Of all the math problems or questions I've thought to post in this server, the one here's the easiest to describe...
I've also wanted to ask about residues of a squared hyperbolic series.
you should try gohar's guide
its a good math server too
in the math chat type !calculus
Is gohar that tik tok guy?
What
@still egret if youre really out of options, $\sum_{k=1}^\infty\mathbf{1}_{\mathbb{Q}}(x)$ can work as a very uninteresting series that only diverges for real rational numbers
mtt
along with $\sum_{k=1}^\infty\mathbf{1}_{\mathbb{Z}}(kx)$
mtt
Is the point to try to find a parametric series that diverges for rational values but converges for irrational values of k, or a series that diverges for any value of k, rational or irrational?
Or to simply check if the series given in the original post converges or diverges for any specific irrational value of k?
If the latter, because k is irrational it will never hit the undefined values, but it can get arbitrarily close to them, meaning the tan argument can get arbitrarily large. Because tan can be written in terms of the exponential function, and turns out to be roughly linear in the exponential function, whereas the gaussian is negative quadratic, we have a summation that is roughly exponentially decaying but will rarely have "spikes" where there is a near miss, but these "spikes" are also suppressed by the exponential decay. So intuitively I think it would be absolutely convergent; however, actually proving it is a little tricky. Remind me to revisit this maybe Sunday or Monday when I have a little more time.
This Michael Penn video seems germane, and might have an application here for proving this proposition. https://youtube.com/watch?v=OFQ959ZNh_A
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How to find the sum of this converging series
cosec(n)/n!
I guess we need to plug cosec n in maclaurin series of some f(n)
,w maclaurian expansion of e^(cosecx)
,w maclaurin expansion of e^(cosecx)
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@still egret did my previous post help at all? Did you follow along with the proof in the video?
It should be straightforward to adapt that proof to your case
First, we define the irrationality measure. I'll omit it inline, but you can get it from Mathworld and I'll be using the terminology within this page.
We choose z to be an irrational number. If the irrationality measure of z is not infinite, then there is some positive integer exponent n >= mu(z) such that there are only finitely many exceptions to inequality given in the mathworld link. Thus we have that the sum is less than sum exp(-pi k^2) cos(k pi z) (k pi)^n, which is clearly convergent.
If the irrationality measure is infinite (and z is a Liouville number), then this is not conclusive.
Let x be a real number, and let R be the set of positive real numbers mu for which 0<|x-p/q|<1/(q^mu) (1) has (at most) finitely many solutions p/q for p and q integers. Then the irrationality measure, sometimes called the Liouville-Roth constant or irrationality exponent, is defined as the threshold at which Liouville's approximation theore...
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I don't know how to handle the case where z is a Liouville number though
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Perhaps it diverges at those numbers...
I suspect there can always exist a real number whose multiples approximate $\pi$ so precisely their cotangents cannot be bounded, even by, say, $k!^{-((k^2)!)!^{k^k}}$
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Undoubtedly some Liouville numbers diverge, but some converge, as they are overwhelmed by the gaussian factor. The problem is distinguishing the two
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How can I set up a function to calculate the probability P of receiving M items in a set of N with T trials. I think this should be some variant of the coupon collector's problem after some quick research, but I'm not good with statistics so I'm unsure exactly what the differences are between all the listed functions. I'm mainly just trying to set it up as a P = f(M,N,T) function for simple visualization purposes for a gacha game.
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@ebon forgeyou mean it's like dice rolls, each one equally likely?
That's effectively the same, yes.
So in this example, the odds P of receiving at least one 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 out of T trials (with a given set of N = 6 and M = 6 in this example).
e.g. t=11
it's called stirling number of the second kind, how many ways to group 11 things in 6 non empty groups
times 6! to pick which items are those
or 6p4 if M=4
So which variable would be replaced with M in the format of S2(T,N) * N! / N^T in that formula?
S2(T,M) * P(N,M) / N^T
wolfram understands P() but not in this context, i can't imagine why
Go figure. Out of curiosity, what is the P() referring to here?
Gotcha. So P(N,M) is a factorial of N for M terms?
yes
Alright, thanks! I think that answers the question! Now I just have to figure out a program capable of graphing it since desmos doesn't seem to support S or P at a quick test...
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hello, can someone help me
U need to send the question
Real
What a profound question 
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yes, i'm going to send it
it is allowed to send a picture of the exercise?
Yes
Alright, what are you stuck at?
Let's see
First off, suppose S is the sample space set, then P(S)=1
P(S) also equals the sum of the probabilities of all the other events(assuming their intersection is null, that is to say, that they're incompatible events)
Since you're not given much more info here, we'll suppose that
With this you should be able to tackle the first question
In general, for the other two questions, let S={a1,a2,...an}be a composite event such that P(S)=k≤1 and such that P(ai∩ak)=0, for all i and k, then P(s)=P(a1)+P(a2)+...+P(an)=k≤1
Np
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How do I do this question I’m stuck I spent 15 minutes on it scratching my head I got that far and I’m just stuck I tried graphing both and seeing the solutions but I can’t do anything about it as I can’t reverse engineer the process and stuff
Sure
So we will first form the equation
Whose roots are 4 times the root of yours
Can you do that ?
Wdym is it a polynomial w degree 8
Wait no
Nah i mean
If one root is a then it will become 4a
Isn’t that just horizontally stretching it by 4
The term with x³ with 4 , the next term with 4² the next with 4³ like that
Wait
Multiplying by 2 works
So increase all roots twice
Bro
How
Just wanted to ask , do you know Ferraris or Descartes method ?
No
What’s Descartes method
Ok so what we will be following is Ferraris
That's a method to solve biquadratics or quartics
So
First generate equation with all roots multiplied by 2
Can you observe why we multiply x³ term with 2 ,x² term with 2² and so on?
So I multiply x^3 w 2 x^2 w 4 and so one
Can you get why?
If I multiply by just 2 the roots will stay the same
And I can factor out 2
nah
Only 2 not powersbif 2
We want the equation where all roots are two times the initial
Powers of
So in biquadratics
If four roots are a,b,c,d the eqn is of the form
X⁴-(a+b+c+d)x³ + (summation(ab))x² ...
Hey wait , do you want an easy way?
Oh I was doing the same thing with quadratcs
1,-2 are solutions
What level are you ?
11th grade IB
Can you divide the polynomial with factor (x-1)
?
Yea
Easy
And with (x+2)
(Cant you just / x^2 ) ?
After dividing you re left with a quadratic
U can’t
It's not symmetric
Cus there is x and constant term as well
Constant term won't matter if it were symmetric
If it were symmetric
We could have considered
x+1/x or x-1/x as z
Then our equation would reduce to a quadratic
Symmetrical to what, y axis
Nah x³ + 3x² +3x + 1 = 0 is a symmetric eqn
The terms from starting and ending terms will have same coefficient
That’s (x+1)^3
Binomial theorem coming in clutch
Oh it’s just palindromic
he means like if it made a nice number like this
/x^2 = x^2 +6/x^2 +x -1/x -4
Bc then u can say
(x^2 +6/x^2) +(x -1/x ) -4
and then
a = x +1/x
so a^2 + a - 4
Oh Ty that clears it up
🥲
A symmetric eqn of odd degree will always have root either +1 or -1 or both
This is a symmetric
It’s
Ty
Ok Il polynomial division and be back in a min
Yeah
Fine do it you will get the answer
Ik
Is there a better method
"When I used the word "long" there must be short "
Both are same actually , just writing diff ways
Yea I always wondered that what is short division
Doesn’t seem very short
Nah it is
Ok then
You from India?
NEET or JEE ?
Neither I’m doing IB
International baccalaureate
Oh good
Wbu
I'm currently in engineering nd mathematics
Cool 🙂
X=-2
These ?
Yea
I have that in my syllabus
I have to remember it
Any higher degree polynomial with real coefficients can be expressed, in linear and quadratic factors with real coefficients
And remainder
No u can add remainder as well
Oh well
Like not every polynomial can be factored into integer coefficients
Polynomials
With lower degree
Yeah not integer coefficients, but real coefficients
Let me give you some insight on quadratic
So our eqn becomes x²-4 = 0
Wdym reduce
I mean if 4 and 8 are two roots , we will do 4-6 and 8-6
Oh ok
This is because the form is x²-(a+b)x + c = 0
There is a specific method on continuous polynomial division to do this sorcery of reducing all roots by certain value
If we could reduce the roots , and vanish the x term
The eqn becomes , x² = k
Or x = ±k
Then just take sqrt
Yea
Now you know another method of solving quadratic
If this were a cubic we could have vanished the x² term
And get another equation what we call a depressed cubic, which could be solved
Other than factoring completing the square and formula
Yeah !
You will later learn about all this stuff !
Without x²
Discovery of complex numbers
Byee
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Find the sum of the squares of all the roots of x^2 - 8floor(x) + 9
is there a way to solve this without guessing?
put it into desmos and it looks very messy
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just a thought but could you solve this like
$\frac{x^2+9}{8} = n$
jan Niku
youll have some collection of solutions here
what’s n?
just some number
oh
floor(x) looks like the graph of n
or, whatever, you know what i mean
this will give you a lot of solutions
but you know that you can bound them between the roots of just $x^2-8x+9$
could you give an example?
jan Niku
