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You want to connect the end points of the purple line with the blue point(speaker)
See if that helps
Something with trigonometry?
Yeah
You have a right angle triangle with one side being 14 and another being 19
Yeye
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Question:for which real numbers k does curve y =2kx^{2}+(1-3k)x+2k-1 have 2 intersections with x axis.
I have solved this question using the discriminant (D > 0). However when I solve this equation I get the following range k=<1- 2sqrt(2))/7, 1+ 2sqrt(2))/7 >
there is 0 present in this range even though 0 shouldn't be a part of the answer. How should I eliminate 0 from the answer?
I dont know you mean by range in this context
These are real numbers
They are just irrational
what do you mean by that
the question is asking for all real numbers k
so I made a range of all real numbers
Let me check rq
ignore /a /b and /c in the second line
a=2k, b=1-3k, c=2k-1
b^2 - 4ac >= 0
(1-3k)^2 - 4(2k)(2k-1) >= 0
1 - 6k + 9k^2 - 16k^2 + 8k >= 0
-7k^2 + 2k + 1 >= 0
k = {-2 +- sqrt[4 - 4(-7)(1)]}/2(-7)
= [-2 +- sqrt(32)]/-7
= [1 +- 2sqrt(2)]/7
Meaning
k <= [1 + 2sqrt(2)]/7 or
k >= [1 - 2sqrt(2)]/7
1 - 6k + 9k^2 - 16k**^2** + 8k >= 0
oop
yeah
but what after
you get the same result
and 0 is still included
@hardy panther
clearly, when k=0 this equation has only 1 intersection with the x axis
how should I write it
Check my (updated again) answer
shouldnt k >= [1 + 2sqrt(2)]/7 or
k <= [1 - 2sqrt(2)]/7 be inverted though
since its a negative hyperbole
k <= [1 + 2sqrt(2)]/7 or
k >= [1 - 2sqrt(2)]/7
Yes, you are correct
I didnt notice my mistake
Also, when k=0, the discriminant is still >= 0 (it is 1), so its no problem
wdym there's no problem
here it shows there is only 1 solution
When k=0, the discriminant = 1, which is >=0, so your answer is still a real number
K is allowed to be 0
so when k=0 there are 2 intersections with the x axis?
The range of values that give you real number answers are
[(1 - 2sqrt(2))/7, (1 + 2sqrt(2))/7]
Oh I see
Well, just exclude 0 then
[(1 - 2sqrt(2))/7, 0) U (0, 1 + 2sqrt(2))/7]
When k=0, the 2kx^2 term vanishes, leaving you with a linear eq (which can only have one soln)
Because when the discriminant is 0, you have one repeated real root
(Multiplicity 2)
Is that the only way to see that 0 shouldn't be an answer?
But if the poly on the left side has a degree of 1 when k=0, then how can the root have a multiplicity of 2?
Plus, the repeated roots occur at the endpoints of the interval (when the discriminant is zero, which does not occur at k=0 here)
Its a nifty fact ypu should know already about the discriminant
Thats when the parabola touches and bounces off the x axis
As opposed to passing through it (two points of intersection)
...or not passing through at all (a complex conjugate pair of solutions)
Oh right
I am confusing myself here
You understand what I'm saying right
and can explain it?
cause if so, imma go back to eating
Yes, the endpoints cause that issue, not k=0
Obviously, since discriminant is 1 when k=0
^graph above is for the discriminant quadratic, not the given quadratic
You can see that indeed, the endpoint causes the discriminant to be zero
So the endpoints must be excluded
K=0 is fine
( (1 - 2sqrt(2))/7, (1 + 2sqrt(2))/7)
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Is this substitution rule??
Or do I just distribute t^-1/2
id just distribute
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What do you do for this?
well what is sin 2x
-2cosx
sin2x = 2sinx cosx
-2cos 2x
wait how
it becomes the integral of 2cos x
why don't just use the trig formula and see it for yourself why
what is that
hold on ur oging too fast
im rly tired
ur asking what is sin 2x... u mean the antiderivative of it?
what do you mean here?
no, he meant the simplified trig formula
ok y did i never learn that befre
can u teach me that
why does sin2x = 2sinx cosx
no
can u tryy explaining it
before we do that even, why is it better to simplify it to that in the first place?
sin(a + b) is one of the addition identities used in trigonometry. The sin a plus b formula says sin (a + b) = sin a cos b + cos a sin b. Learn how to derive and how to apply this formula along with examples.
then we can use our existing knowledge of derivatives to compute the integration
substitute a=b
x + x is what?
:/
whats sin(a+b)
yes
now make the subsitutions in this equation here
sinxcosx + cosxsinx
yes
so 2sinxcosx
yes
u dont need to
well its that oover sinx
substitute the value of sin2x here
yes i do i need the integral
make the cancellation
ok hold on
u'll have simplified it enough
no
damn
thats an easy integral
ur not getting rid of the 2 cosx
u dont need to
ur just getting rid of 1 sinx
ok true
its now
2cosx
2∫cosx dx
no more dx
yeah
wait i just wana do something rly quick
sinxsinxcosxcosx/sinx
yea i still see 2cosx *sinx lol
wtj
wtf
or is that cos^2x
???
what y wrote is (sinx*cosx)^2
and you divide both of those by sin
so its cosx +cosx
so that is -sinx + -sinx
= -2sinx
yeah
what do u get when u differentiate sin x?
👍
thats the integration symbol
or do i just write S sin2x/sinx = 2sinx
uve already integrated cos x and written sin x in place of it
+C on the right hand side
but yes
how do i write my final answer
just 2sinx + C
okkkk
and that is like the area of something?
of some other function or somthing?
like what is the integral for
like S sin2x/sinx dx
that is the area of 2sinx + C ?
which is either the distance traveled or the change in velocity righyt?
when u graph a functyon of x
such that f(x) = sin2x/sinx
what u did gives u the area u der the graph
*under
but isnt it the area under sinx + C?
no
2sinx + C gives u the area
oh wtf
ofc u only get the area when u put it as a definite integral
so if i graph those 2 line it willl show me the area or nah
put what as the definite integral
yes but simply subtituting for x in 2sinx + C wont do it
what u solved was an indefinite integral
intead it couldnt been a definite integral
with numbers on top and bottom of big S thing
yea h;ha
im doing a definite integral now
$\int_{0}^{pi/3} \frac{sin(\theta) + sin(\theta)tan^2(\theta)}{sec^2(\theta)} d\theta$
wakamole
so for thiis it is F(b) - F(a)
and F is the antiderivative of f(x)
so i need the antiderivative...........
what the hell is the antiderivative of sin(x)tan^2(x)? ?? @distant pagoda
first multiply by cos ^2 theta on top
why
bc
I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DO IT
1/sec^2=cos^2
how do you know hwo to do that
like how do you recognize that is the first step?
i rly need help i suck at integrals
damn i suck so bad at trig idintities
im never taking a summer math class ever again
ok i did the first step
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im not sure how to do this
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I don’t know how to do part(a), I don’t know how can I utilise the hint
What do you get when you integrate every term in the sum?
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how do i do this without converting to degrees
first
familiarise yourself with radians
howwwww
this is what they did but i dont ge thow they got that
you'll get familiar as you do more and more problems related to that
practice
even properites,
supplementary identities
the applicable identities are essentially the same
is it just memorising
better to understand the unit circle
i dont get this one
what if theta is greater
then 270
and its in the sin quadrant
angles in radians are defined from unit circle
what?!?!?!
but doesnt it go all the way into the sin quadrant again
and become positive
wdym
I got what you are trying to say
bc they still go into sin and all quadrant
try drawing it out
see, sin(-181) = -sin(181)
here you are thinking that it will be in second quadrant so it will be positive, right?
yes
terminal arms for 181°
and -181°
okay so see actually the sin(181) itself will be negative
which cancels out the negative sign
got it?
beacause that will be in third quadrant where sine function is negative
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Does |R| = |N| where R is the set of real numbers and N is the set of natural numbers. And how to proof?
No
Non surjective maps to power sets
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@tranquil hatch notice that $SS'=TT'=\frac{1}{2}(AB+BC+AC)$:
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Indeed
$S_{\triangleABC}=2S_{OSS'O'}-2S_{\triangleAOB}-2S_{\triangleAO'C}\=(a+b)\frac{AB+BC+AC}{2}-aAB-bAC\=\frac{(b-a)AB+(a-b)AC+(a+b)BC}{2}$
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sorry, typing mistake
i would like to understand the process if possible
i didn't read your answer yet because i would like to make some of the process by myself to practice a little bit
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Why here Γ (1+1)=1 ?
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interesting
What have you tried?
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ok so i tried dividing fifty with
uh
3
but then i realised thats not possible
it'd have to be a sequence or probability
and then i looked at the number of possibilities for the product of three numbers
thatd be
like
-1^3
or 1^3
or
-1^2x1
or 1^2x1
which would both be 1
If instead of 50 you only have 6 numbers, what would be the answer?
3 hints?
Why?
or 4?
because
you can make 4 pairs of 3 in 6
because i think each number would have a minimum of inclusion in 2 sets of 3, and a maximum of 3 sets of 3
Not sure what you mean
uhh lemme try explaining again
you have 6 numbers in 6: 1,2,3,4,5,6
now your first set of 3 would be 1,2,3
Wait first can you use the hint to choose the 3 consecutive numbers or just gives you a random product of 3 consecutive numbers
your next would be 2,3,4
third would be
3,4,5
fourth would be
4.5.6
so you'd have 4 sets of 3 numbers
wdym
Having randomness would make it a stupid question, there would be no minimum number of hints
Yeah that what I think
I think you're forgetting that the numbers are written along a circle
how does a circle make a difference though?
In other words the first and last ones are consecutive
oh yes
so it'd be +1
so then the last set would be 5,6,1
so actually 5 sets huh?
... why not include 6,1,2 in that case
Wat
nothing thats just another way of saying im so cooked
But if they are 6, isn't the solution 2 because we would get the product of the first 3 number and the product of the last three numbers then multiply the 2 of them
please continue
why would you multiply the two of them
Reframe the problem
You have a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6
You don't know the individual values
You want the value of a1*a2*a3*a4*a5*a6
A hint can give you:
a1*a2*a3a2*a3*a4- ...
a6*a1*a2
yea
So what hints do you need to get a1*a2*a3*a4*a5*a6?
If you meant you need 6 hints, no you're not really onto something
damn it ok
Let me rephrase that last part
A hint can give you:
- A:
a1*a2*a3 - B:
a2*a3*a4 - C:
a3*a4*a5 - D:
a4*a5*a6 - E:
a5*a6*a1 - F:
a6*a1*a2
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Which hints, among A,B,C,D,E,F, do you need in order to be able to calculate a1*a2*a3*a4*a5*a6?
You're only interested in the final result a1*a2*a3*a4*a5*a6
It doesn't matter if you calculate it as [a1*a2*a3]*[a4*a5*a6] or [a2*a3*a4]*[a5*a6*a1]
Yeah
But the problem becomes a bit complicated though when the number of numbers becomes not divisable by 3
make a range ig
because you get the total product of the numbers in the range?
and all we're trying to find is the product of all the numbers, not all the numbers individually
I think if the question is 4
We gonna need 4 hints
Multiply all of them together then take the square root of the result
How about not giving answers?
Okey sorry but that was a thought though I don't know if it is possible to be less
@obtuse pasture You have a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, you want their product
2 sets?
This doesn't seem right?
Can you list the possible hints and then try to combine them?
A: a1*a2*a3
B: a2*a3*a4
C: a3*a4*a5
D: a4*a5*a1
E:a5*a1*a2
Yeah, it is not right || it is cubic root ||
Use `<text>` to write stuff like this without * and _ having an effect because markdown
yea sorry about that
Right so if you took A and D for example, you end up with a1*a2*a3*a4*a5*a1, which is no good, right?
yes
What does a1*a1 equal?
yes
What happens if you add hint C to this?
Do you mean that's what you get from A and C?
Yes
Right
yususus
Can you see a way to get what we want, a1*a2*a3*a4*a5, even if it's not using the minimum number of hints?
i think
Elaborate
a * c * e
wait no
just multiply everything together
which would give you the cube ov every digit
and root it?
Why that last step?
ok yea you probably dont have too
(-1)^3 = -1, 1^3 = 1
So yes you're correct
i think 50 is a boring answer
the max answer has to be 50
You can only have 50 hints
There are only 50 hints possible
but the question doesnt say
What's hint number 1 and hint number 52?
No that's hint number 50
Then what's hint 50
Hint number n starts with a_n
ah ok
This indexing isn't given directly by the question but it works
Assuming hint number 1 starts with a1 and you continue the natural pattern
Anyway you now know that using all possible hints gives you the answer, but you don't really know if it's the minimum
yea
After all for 3k numbers, you only need k hints
where k<n?
Where k is a natural number
k hints
1 <= n <= 50
If n = 43, my question is which hints include a_43
The a's are the numbers, if you want a letter to refer to the hints, use h
ok sorry
is this still our range
Yes
I think you're confused
no i
my brain stopped working
it'd be h= 41, 42
and 43 if we're considering that as well
$h_n = a_n \cdot a_{n+1} \cdot a_{n+2} \
h_1 = a_1 \cdot a_2 \cdot a_3$
Nel
Does that definition work for you?
yea
Also we're working mod 50 so a_51 = a_1 and h_51 = h_1
ok makes sense
Ok so I believe you understand that three hints include a_n, namely h_{n-2}, h_{n-1}, and h_n
yes
If you use only one of these hints, you get to keep a_n in the final product, right?
yes
If you use two of them, what happens?
you use a_n in 2 seperate hints
Yes and the point of using hints is to multiply them together, so what happens when you do that?
you get a product of only 2 numbers not 3
(I assume we agree that there is no way to use hints other than to combine them as a product)
yeaeghuiegh
Rephrase please?
the product
that you get
when you multiply 2 hints together, is the product of only 2 numbers, one of those 3 numbers will get squared and therefore nulled
cus its jsut 1
after squaring
not null idek
Ok but it results in a product of 4 number, not 2
oh yea
Or 3, depending on which hints you use, but whatever
If you use h_30 and h_31 you get a_28 * a_33
Huh actually I got confused
So it's 2 or 3
lol
Ok if you use h_30 and h_32, what do you get?
h_30 = a_30 * a_31 * a_32
h_32 = a_32 * a_33* a_34
which gives you
a_30 * a_31 * a_32 * a_33
and
wait
i need a_31 in there
Yes, so a product of 4 numbers
Anyway that's not the point
The point is that you lose all information about a_n because a_n*a_n = 1
yes
Now if you use all three hints, you get that information back
yea
Ok so with 50 numbers total, do you agree that you cannot use a set of hints such that all numbers are covered once and only once?
Like you could with just 6 numbers
yea
That simply comes from the fact that 50 is not divisible by 3
yea
Alright and if you don't cover a number, you can't get to the answer
So you necessarily have to cover at least one number twice (or thrice)
yes
But if you cover any number only twice, you still can't get to the answer since that number is lost
yes
So at least one number is covered thrice
yes
That means the next number is already covered twice
?
If a_n is covered thrice, which hints have you used?
Again those are numbers, not hints, and you seem to have changed the indexing
oh yea
.
(btw I haven't defined "being covered" but it's fairly obviously "being included in a hint that is being used")
yea i got that afterwards but it clicked
If $h_n = a_{n-1}a_na_{n+1}$ then fine
Nel
yea thats what i mean
but like
in hints
basically you have hint n
and you use the the hint previous and the hint next in line
You define that however you want, it really doesn't matter as long as you're consistent
okeokriekie
So how many times is a_{n+1} covered?
add?
Which additional hint do you need to use
wouldnt it be a continuous loop
a_{n+1} is covered by both h_n and h_{n+1}. There's only one other hint that you haven't used that still covers a_{n+1}
No
Yes
Now a_{n+2} is covered twice but needs to be covered thrice instead
yes
And so on until you use every hint
add a(n+3)
yea
Well that's the proof
Not exactly rigorous but one can make it rigorous, though you seem to lack quite a bit of rigor
Or maybe you're just "cooked"
no i think im just sleepy
because i onto something at 2
but now my brain is completely not functioning
So take a break then come back to this and try writing a proof from it
or idk maybe i am cooked
was*
alright
btw the question has a part two
but i believe we've covered most of it's proof as well
Do tell?
Ok well it all depends on the divisibility of n by k
Yes though it's not as straightforward as either n/k or n
Probably it's just going to be gcd(n, k) but I'm too lazy to prove that
I'm not a student
Are college goers not students? 
Well yeah I'm not old or rich enough yet to be retired so you could say I'm a professional in the first sense of the word
so like phd or smth
Who knows 
cud you help me with this later 

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i dont understand the problem
i understand it but idk where to look for it
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well they give you the dimensions, right? the side lengths are x, x, and 2x
it didn't teach me
yes
volume of a rectangular prism is length * width * height
how do you get a hint for a volume formula? that's just something you're expected to memorize in middle/high school
there wasn't really a way for me to give you a hint for what the volume formula is
well i mean you can just guide me
like umm
not really a guide tho but just a bunch
Anyway thanks
now i fucking know the formula again..
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I dont understand how they knew it was complete until level log_(1/(1-alpha))n
n(1-alpha)^d = 1
and I solve for d right?
but then Im getting
(log n)/(log(1/(1-alpha))
im so dumb its the same 🤦
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why did they pick log_(1/1-alpa)n instead of log_(1/alpha)n
we could have picked either one right?

idk what's happening
do yk whats happening here doe 🙏
unfortunately not, i just got on the channel cause i see you often here 😄

sorry, dealt with now
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should be equivalent given that all we know about alpha is it's "some number between 0 and 1"
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hi, in the solution on the right im unsure on the fourth line
the angular motion doesnt match anywhere on the eqn sheet given, so how is it derived?
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hi
can this be derivated at x=2 and x=-2 ?
i know it cant be at 1 and -1
but i feel like the ends should not be able to...
Thoses are endpoints, actually i couldnt be able to say if the function is define according to graphics, and its like, they are infinite tangent possible so differentiation here is not possible
the derivative doesnt exist at the end points
okay
i have one more question
the books says the answer is were "x² + 3x + 2" = 0
why is this?
it makes sense when graphing the function, but how can i know this otherwise?
a polynomial is differentiable
however with the absolute value function, when the function is zero, the derivative might not exist
so u have to check the points where the function=0
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Can someone do step by step tutorial
$\sin^2(x)=\frac{1-\cos(2x)}{2}$
fish
Half angle?
yeah
but essentially, just use that.
$\int_0^{2\pi}\sin^2(x),{dx}=\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{1-\cos(2x)}{2},{dx}=\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{1}{2},{dx}-\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{\cos(2x)}{2},{dx}$
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1/2 will be x/2
yes.
What about cos2x
you know that $\frac{d}{dx}\sin(2x)=2\cos(2x)$?
fish
so just reverse that
Sin2x/4??
correct
Where is this from
what do you mean?
Like how am I supposed to know
you get it from chain rule and derivative of sine rule
Is it an identity?
so $\frac{d}{dx}f(g(x))=g'(x)\cdot f'(g(x))$
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and $\frac{d}{dx}\sin(x)=\cos(x)$ and $\frac{d}{dx}\cos(x)=-\sin(x)$
fish
Twiizly
yeah
yes
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i need help with a few questions regarding this problem
here is what i know,
the angle of elevation is 53 deg
the length of wire will Marcus need to attach the top of the latticework to the ground is 15 feet
here are the things that have stumped me
i think that 3 and 4 are correct
i dont believe it is possible with the given info
can someone confirm? after that I have more questions about 5 and 6 depending on wether or not I am correct
@loud grotto Has your question been resolved?
<@&286206848099549185> i know its a lot of writing but its a simple problem (i think)
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Hello
geometry?
I am here
i lost hope and went for a bathroom break hope i didnt lose you
same question as up here still
trig
so real
i’m not good with word problems
are you sure you can't?
no but im pretty sure
so the angle of elevation at the top of the base is arctan 3/4
yeah 53 deg
are 3 and 4 right?
nah def less than that
no its 4/3
roughly about 36 degrees
isnt it 4/3
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Anyone
Provide me with notes of trigonometry with lots of problems and solutions.
Khan academy
Link for jee?
You didn't say that
bruh, they don't teach for JEE
Jee notes
aren't you enrolled in any coaching or something?
I am assuming you're not a dropper right?
Hmm
ever heard of cengage?
so you're just focused on mains?
Which has this?
uh actually I can't think of any purely mains oriented books
but Cengage also have Mains oriented books
or you could view Arihant as well
considering what you need
I just need lot of solved examples
Can u recommend one book
Because then it would be easy
Actually I am preparing for JEE too
I am an dropper btw
so far what my seniors recommended me is Cengage Advanced series
I have didn't prepared competitively in 11th and 12th so I am not sure about that
both pretty good in their own way, Arihant takes level a bit higher sometimes and sometimes easier
Cengage on the other hand stays consistent in higher difficulty
I am myself using Cengage and it has many illustrations, examples and pretty good level of practice problems
it is good for practising questions ig
there's not much theory and example in it
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A,B,C are angles in a triangle and a,b,c are sides
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hello?
anyone?
yeH
Think about cosine law
OHHHHH
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Why does this compound not have a centre of symmetry