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wide drift
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Ok cool

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What is step one? Im still so lost

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I dont even have any coordinates

mystic swan
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You want to connect the end points of the purple line with the blue point(speaker)

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See if that helps

mystic swan
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Yeah

wide drift
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Umm

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2 right angle triangles back to back

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But only 1 lenght and 1 angle

mystic swan
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You have a right angle triangle with one side being 14 and another being 19

wide drift
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oh wait no

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We have 2

mystic swan
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The radius

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Yes

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You can use Pythagoras’ theorem

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Is it very clear now?

wide drift
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x= sqrt(165)

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times 2 is 2sqrt(165)

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Which is the answer I think

mystic swan
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Yea

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Well done

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👍

wide drift
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Thank you 😄

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❤️

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weary moon
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Question:for which real numbers k does curve y =2kx^{2}+(1-3k)x+2k-1 have 2 intersections with x axis.
I have solved this question using the discriminant (D > 0). However when I solve this equation I get the following range k=<1- 2sqrt(2))/7, 1+ 2sqrt(2))/7 >
there is 0 present in this range even though 0 shouldn't be a part of the answer. How should I eliminate 0 from the answer?

weary moon
hardy panther
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I dont know you mean by range in this context

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These are real numbers

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They are just irrational

weary moon
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the question is asking for all real numbers k

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so I made a range of all real numbers

hardy panther
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Also, quadratic formula is "all over 2a",not 2

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I havent checked your answer yet

weary moon
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oh sorry this all over a

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its not a part of the answer

hardy panther
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Let me check rq

weary moon
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ignore /a /b and /c in the second line

hardy panther
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a=2k, b=1-3k, c=2k-1

b^2 - 4ac >= 0
(1-3k)^2 - 4(2k)(2k-1) >= 0
1 - 6k + 9k^2 - 16k^2 + 8k >= 0
-7k^2 + 2k + 1 >= 0

k = {-2 +- sqrt[4 - 4(-7)(1)]}/2(-7)
= [-2 +- sqrt(32)]/-7
= [1 +- 2sqrt(2)]/7

Meaning

k <= [1 + 2sqrt(2)]/7 or
k >= [1 - 2sqrt(2)]/7

weary moon
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1 - 6k + 9k^2 - 16k**^2** + 8k >= 0

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oop

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yeah

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but what after

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you get the same result

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and 0 is still included

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@hardy panther

hardy panther
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How do you mean

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I think the issue is with your inequlity use

weary moon
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clearly, when k=0 this equation has only 1 intersection with the x axis

weary moon
hardy panther
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Check my (updated again) answer

weary moon
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since its a negative hyperbole

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k <= [1 + 2sqrt(2)]/7 or
k >= [1 - 2sqrt(2)]/7

hardy panther
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I didnt notice my mistake

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Also, when k=0, the discriminant is still >= 0 (it is 1), so its no problem

weary moon
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wdym there's no problem

weary moon
hardy panther
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K is allowed to be 0

weary moon
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so when k=0 there are 2 intersections with the x axis?

hardy panther
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The range of values that give you real number answers are

[(1 - 2sqrt(2))/7, (1 + 2sqrt(2))/7]

hardy panther
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Well, just exclude 0 then

weary moon
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but how would I know to exclude 0 without using desmos

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where is the proof

hardy panther
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[(1 - 2sqrt(2))/7, 0) U (0, 1 + 2sqrt(2))/7]

orchid torrent
hardy panther
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(Multiplicity 2)

weary moon
orchid torrent
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Plus, the repeated roots occur at the endpoints of the interval (when the discriminant is zero, which does not occur at k=0 here)

hardy panther
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Thats when the parabola touches and bounces off the x axis

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As opposed to passing through it (two points of intersection)

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...or not passing through at all (a complex conjugate pair of solutions)

weary moon
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Oh ok I see

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I'll keep that in mind

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thank you guys

hardy panther
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I am confusing myself here

orchid torrent
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You understand what I'm saying right

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and can explain it?

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cause if so, imma go back to eating

hardy panther
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Yes, the endpoints cause that issue, not k=0

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Obviously, since discriminant is 1 when k=0

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^graph above is for the discriminant quadratic, not the given quadratic

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You can see that indeed, the endpoint causes the discriminant to be zero

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So the endpoints must be excluded

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K=0 is fine

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( (1 - 2sqrt(2))/7, (1 + 2sqrt(2))/7)

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scenic lodge
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Is this substitution rule??

odd edgeBOT
scenic lodge
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Or do I just distribute t^-1/2

cold sage
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id just distribute

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yea

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scenic lodge
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What do you do for this?

chilly galleon
scenic lodge
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-2cosx

proven sphinx
scenic lodge
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-2cos 2x

chilly galleon
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so just plug that in

scenic lodge
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wait how

chilly galleon
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it becomes the integral of 2cos x

scenic lodge
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o i did derivative

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wait wut

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can you slow down

proven sphinx
scenic lodge
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what is that

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hold on ur oging too fast

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im rly tired

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ur asking what is sin 2x... u mean the antiderivative of it?

scenic lodge
proven sphinx
scenic lodge
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ok y did i never learn that befre

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can u teach me that

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why does sin2x = 2sinx cosx

proven sphinx
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how much you know about trig?

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do you know about the sin(A+B) formula?

scenic lodge
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no

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can u tryy explaining it

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before we do that even, why is it better to simplify it to that in the first place?

proven sphinx
proven sphinx
scenic lodge
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ok

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so sin(a + b) = sinacosb + cosasinb

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so how does sin2x = 2sinxcosx?

proven sphinx
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substitute a=b

scenic lodge
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there is just 2x

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how is that a + b

distant pagoda
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substitute a=b=x

scenic lodge
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what

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we are multiplying 2x

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how is that addition

distant pagoda
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x + x is what?

scenic lodge
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2x

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lol

distant pagoda
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:/

scenic lodge
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facepalm

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so

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a is 2 and x is b?

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im still losr

distant pagoda
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whats sin(a+b)

scenic lodge
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a = x and b = x

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sin(x + x)

distant pagoda
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yes

scenic lodge
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ok

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so

distant pagoda
scenic lodge
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sinxcosx + cosxsinx

distant pagoda
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yes

scenic lodge
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so 2sinxcosx

distant pagoda
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yes

scenic lodge
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ok

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so how do we get the antiderivative of that

distant pagoda
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u dont need to

scenic lodge
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well its that oover sinx

distant pagoda
scenic lodge
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yes i do i need the integral

distant pagoda
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make the cancellation

scenic lodge
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ok hold on

distant pagoda
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u'll have simplified it enough

scenic lodge
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so

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so it will be 2cosx + sinx

distant pagoda
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no

scenic lodge
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damn

distant pagoda
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god

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what do u get when u divide sin x by sin x

scenic lodge
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2sinxcosx / sinx

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u still have 2 cos x tho wtf

distant pagoda
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thats an easy integral

scenic lodge
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ur not getting rid of the 2 cosx

distant pagoda
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u dont need to

scenic lodge
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ur just getting rid of 1 sinx

distant pagoda
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yeah so?

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it easy now

scenic lodge
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but theres 2sinx not 1

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2SINxCOSx / SINx

distant pagoda
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u can take the 2 ouuside the integration sign

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as in

scenic lodge
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ok true

distant pagoda
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then?

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finish it

scenic lodge
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so its just cosx

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2cos

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x

distant pagoda
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its now

scenic lodge
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2cosx

distant pagoda
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2∫cosx dx

scenic lodge
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right

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so then its -2sinx dx

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right?

distant pagoda
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no more dx

scenic lodge
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og

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oh

distant pagoda
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and +C

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because its an indefinite integral

scenic lodge
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yeah

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wait i just wana do something rly quick

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sinxsinxcosxcosx/sinx

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yea i still see 2cosx *sinx lol

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wtj

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wtf

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or is that cos^2x

distant pagoda
scenic lodge
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wait

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now im rly cconfusing myself here

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oh cause its sinxcosx + cosxsinx

distant pagoda
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what y wrote is (sinx*cosx)^2

scenic lodge
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and you divide both of those by sin

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so its cosx +cosx

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so that is -sinx + -sinx

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= -2sinx

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yeah

distant pagoda
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mb

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ni negative

scenic lodge
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y not

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yees it is

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cause its positive cos

distant pagoda
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what do u get when u differentiate sin x?

scenic lodge
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oh shit

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u get pos cos

distant pagoda
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👍

scenic lodge
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so do i leave the big S thing

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like S 2sinx

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what is that thing called

distant pagoda
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thats the integration symbol

scenic lodge
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or do i just write S sin2x/sinx = 2sinx

distant pagoda
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uve already integrated cos x and written sin x in place of it

distant pagoda
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but yes

scenic lodge
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how do i write my final answer

distant pagoda
scenic lodge
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okkkk

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and that is like the area of something?

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of some other function or somthing?

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like what is the integral for

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like S sin2x/sinx dx

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that is the area of 2sinx + C ?

scenic lodge
distant pagoda
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such that f(x) = sin2x/sinx

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what u did gives u the area u der the graph

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*under

scenic lodge
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but isnt it the area under sinx + C?

distant pagoda
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no

scenic lodge
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o

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so its the area underr sin2x/sin

distant pagoda
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2sinx + C gives u the area

scenic lodge
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oh wtf

distant pagoda
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ofc u only get the area when u put it as a definite integral

scenic lodge
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so if i graph those 2 line it willl show me the area or nah

scenic lodge
distant pagoda
distant pagoda
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intead it couldnt been a definite integral

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with numbers on top and bottom of big S thing

scenic lodge
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yea h;ha

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im doing a definite integral now

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$\int_{0}^{pi/3} \frac{sin(\theta) + sin(\theta)tan^2(\theta)}{sec^2(\theta)} d\theta$

clever fjordBOT
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wakamole

scenic lodge
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so for thiis it is F(b) - F(a)

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and F is the antiderivative of f(x)

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so i need the antiderivative...........

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what the hell is the antiderivative of sin(x)tan^2(x)? ?? @distant pagoda

chilly galleon
scenic lodge
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plz tell me why

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and how are you so good at antiderivatives

scenic lodge
chilly galleon
scenic lodge
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I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DO IT

chilly galleon
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1/sec^2=cos^2

scenic lodge
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how do you know hwo to do that

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like how do you recognize that is the first step?

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i rly need help i suck at integrals

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damn i suck so bad at trig idintities

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im never taking a summer math class ever again

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ok i did the first step

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polar hazel
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im not sure how to do this

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stuck raven
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I don’t know how to do part(a), I don’t know how can I utilise the hint

latent scaffold
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What do you get when you integrate every term in the sum?

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woeful rivet
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how do i do this without converting to degrees

woeful rivet
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first

nimble blaze
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familiarise yourself with radians

woeful rivet
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this is what they did but i dont ge thow they got that

uneven osprey
nimble blaze
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practice

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even properites,
supplementary identities

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the applicable identities are essentially the same

woeful rivet
nimble blaze
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better to understand the unit circle

woeful rivet
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hey i found it in my formula sheet

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ok thx

woeful rivet
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what if theta is greater

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then 270

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and its in the sin quadrant

uneven osprey
nimble blaze
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doesn't matter

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identity still applies

woeful rivet
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what?!?!?!

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but doesnt it go all the way into the sin quadrant again

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and become positive

nimble blaze
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wdym

woeful rivet
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-271 goes clockwise into sin doesnt it

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or am i confused

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wait i mean

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181

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-181

nimble blaze
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which number

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stop changing

woeful rivet
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um soz

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both i guess

uneven osprey
woeful rivet
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bc they still go into sin and all quadrant

nimble blaze
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try drawing it out

uneven osprey
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see, sin(-181) = -sin(181)
here you are thinking that it will be in second quadrant so it will be positive, right?

woeful rivet
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yes

nimble blaze
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terminal arms for 181°
and -181°

uneven osprey
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okay so see actually the sin(181) itself will be negative

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which cancels out the negative sign

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got it?

uneven osprey
woeful rivet
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ohhh

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omg

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ok that makes more sense

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thx

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:D

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robust pollen
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Does |R| = |N| where R is the set of real numbers and N is the set of natural numbers. And how to proof?

ember oak
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Non surjective maps to power sets

robust pollen
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oh

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ok thx SWR

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@tranquil hatch notice that $SS'=TT'=\frac{1}{2}(AB+BC+AC)$:

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Cooper Wang

tranquil hatch
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Indeed

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$S_{\triangleABC}=2S_{OSS'O'}-2S_{\triangleAOB}-2S_{\triangleAO'C}\=(a+b)\frac{AB+BC+AC}{2}-aAB-bAC\=\frac{(b-a)AB+(a-b)AC+(a+b)BC}{2}$

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sorry, typing mistake

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i would like to understand the process if possible

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i didn't read your answer yet because i would like to make some of the process by myself to practice a little bit

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Why here Γ (1+1)=1 ?

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jade cairn
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that is strange

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i thought gamma(2) = 2

heady plover
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yes i thought it too

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but im sure it's not typo, the ans is correct

sinful grove
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Gamma(2) = 1!

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since Gamma(n) = (n-1)! for intergrs n >= 1

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aah right

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static totem
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interesting

late dust
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What have you tried?

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obtuse pasture
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uh

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3

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but then i realised thats not possible

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it'd have to be a sequence or probability

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and then i looked at the number of possibilities for the product of three numbers

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thatd be

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like

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-1^3

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or 1^3

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or

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-1^2x1

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or 1^2x1

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which would both be 1

late dust
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If instead of 50 you only have 6 numbers, what would be the answer?

obtuse pasture
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3 hints?

late dust
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Why?

obtuse pasture
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or 4?

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because

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you can make 4 pairs of 3 in 6

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because i think each number would have a minimum of inclusion in 2 sets of 3, and a maximum of 3 sets of 3

late dust
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Not sure what you mean

obtuse pasture
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uhh lemme try explaining again

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you have 6 numbers in 6: 1,2,3,4,5,6

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now your first set of 3 would be 1,2,3

stark heart
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Wait first can you use the hint to choose the 3 consecutive numbers or just gives you a random product of 3 consecutive numbers

obtuse pasture
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your next would be 2,3,4

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third would be

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3,4,5

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fourth would be

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4.5.6

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so you'd have 4 sets of 3 numbers

late dust
late dust
obtuse pasture
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how does a circle make a difference though?

late dust
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In other words the first and last ones are consecutive

obtuse pasture
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oh yes

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so it'd be +1

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so then the last set would be 5,6,1

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so actually 5 sets huh?

late dust
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... why not include 6,1,2 in that case

obtuse pasture
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oh yea

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im deepfried man

late dust
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Wat

obtuse pasture
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nothing thats just another way of saying im so cooked

stark heart
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But if they are 6, isn't the solution 2 because we would get the product of the first 3 number and the product of the last three numbers then multiply the 2 of them

obtuse pasture
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please continue

obtuse pasture
late dust
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Reframe the problem

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You have a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6
You don't know the individual values
You want the value of a1*a2*a3*a4*a5*a6

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A hint can give you:

  • a1*a2*a3
  • a2*a3*a4
  • ...
  • a6*a1*a2
obtuse pasture
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yea

late dust
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So what hints do you need to get a1*a2*a3*a4*a5*a6?

obtuse pasture
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6

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am i onto something yet

late dust
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If you meant you need 6 hints, no you're not really onto something

late dust
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Let me rephrase that last part

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A hint can give you:

  • A: a1*a2*a3
  • B: a2*a3*a4
  • C: a3*a4*a5
  • D: a4*a5*a6
  • E: a5*a6*a1
  • F: a6*a1*a2
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Which hints, among A,B,C,D,E,F, do you need in order to be able to calculate a1*a2*a3*a4*a5*a6?

obtuse pasture
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a and c?

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or no sorry

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a and d

late dust
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Yes

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A and D works, or B and E, or C and F

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Do you see why?

obtuse pasture
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i mean i think so?

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idk if i could explain

late dust
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You're only interested in the final result a1*a2*a3*a4*a5*a6

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It doesn't matter if you calculate it as [a1*a2*a3]*[a4*a5*a6] or [a2*a3*a4]*[a5*a6*a1]

stark heart
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Yeah
But the problem becomes a bit complicated though when the number of numbers becomes not divisable by 3

obtuse pasture
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and all we're trying to find is the product of all the numbers, not all the numbers individually

late dust
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Yes

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Ok now let's try with 5 numbers

stark heart
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I think if the question is 4
We gonna need 4 hints
Multiply all of them together then take the square root of the result

stark heart
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Okey sorry but that was a thought though I don't know if it is possible to be less

late dust
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@obtuse pasture You have a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, you want their product

obtuse pasture
late dust
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Can you list the possible hints and then try to combine them?

obtuse pasture
stark heart
late dust
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Use `<text>` to write stuff like this without * and _ having an effect because markdown

obtuse pasture
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yea sorry about that

late dust
obtuse pasture
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yes

late dust
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What does a1*a1 equal?

obtuse pasture
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a1^2

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which is 1 either way

late dust
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Right

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So in fact you end up with a2*a3*a4*a5

obtuse pasture
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yes

late dust
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What happens if you add hint C to this?

obtuse pasture
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you get a3^2

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which is also 1

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so

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a1*a2*a4*a5

late dust
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Do you mean that's what you get from A and C?

obtuse pasture
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yes

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oh you mean a c and d

late dust
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Yes

obtuse pasture
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ok then you'd get

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a2

late dust
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Right

obtuse pasture
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yususus

late dust
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Can you see a way to get what we want, a1*a2*a3*a4*a5, even if it's not using the minimum number of hints?

obtuse pasture
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i think

late dust
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Elaborate

obtuse pasture
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a * c * e

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wait no

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just multiply everything together

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which would give you the cube ov every digit

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and root it?

late dust
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Why that last step?

obtuse pasture
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ok yea you probably dont have too

late dust
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(-1)^3 = -1, 1^3 = 1

obtuse pasture
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cus its just 1 and -1

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yea

late dust
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So yes you're correct

static totem
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i think 50 is a boring answer

obtuse pasture
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i dont think the answer would be 50

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it'd be 52

royal crag
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the max answer has to be 50

late dust
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You can only have 50 hints

royal crag
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There are only 50 hints possible

obtuse pasture
late dust
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What's hint number 1 and hint number 52?

obtuse pasture
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number 1 is

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a1*a2*a3

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52 would be

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a50*a1*a2

late dust
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No that's hint number 50

royal crag
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Then what's hint 50

late dust
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Hint number n starts with a_n

obtuse pasture
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ah ok

royal crag
late dust
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Assuming hint number 1 starts with a1 and you continue the natural pattern

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Anyway you now know that using all possible hints gives you the answer, but you don't really know if it's the minimum

obtuse pasture
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yea

late dust
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After all for 3k numbers, you only need k hints

obtuse pasture
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where k<n?

late dust
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Where k is a natural number

obtuse pasture
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yes

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ok

late dust
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Ok so take a_n

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Which hints include a_n?

obtuse pasture
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k hints

late dust
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1 <= n <= 50

obtuse pasture
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oh ok

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all 50?

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i dont get what ur asking

late dust
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If n = 43, my question is which hints include a_43

obtuse pasture
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oh alright

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a_41 and a_43

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sorry

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a_42

late dust
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The a's are the numbers, if you want a letter to refer to the hints, use h

obtuse pasture
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ok sorry

obtuse pasture
late dust
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Yes

obtuse pasture
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ok then i was wrong

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h= 41,42,44,45

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idek man

late dust
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I think you're confused

obtuse pasture
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no i

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my brain stopped working

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it'd be h= 41, 42

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and 43 if we're considering that as well

late dust
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$h_n = a_n \cdot a_{n+1} \cdot a_{n+2} \
h_1 = a_1 \cdot a_2 \cdot a_3$

clever fjordBOT
late dust
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Does that definition work for you?

obtuse pasture
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yea

late dust
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Also we're working mod 50 so a_51 = a_1 and h_51 = h_1

obtuse pasture
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ok makes sense

late dust
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Ok so I believe you understand that three hints include a_n, namely h_{n-2}, h_{n-1}, and h_n

obtuse pasture
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yes

late dust
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If you use only one of these hints, you get to keep a_n in the final product, right?

obtuse pasture
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yes

late dust
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If you use two of them, what happens?

obtuse pasture
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you use a_n in 2 seperate hints

late dust
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Yes and the point of using hints is to multiply them together, so what happens when you do that?

obtuse pasture
late dust
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(I assume we agree that there is no way to use hints other than to combine them as a product)

late dust
obtuse pasture
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the product

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that you get

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when you multiply 2 hints together, is the product of only 2 numbers, one of those 3 numbers will get squared and therefore nulled

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cus its jsut 1

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after squaring

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not null idek

late dust
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Ok but it results in a product of 4 number, not 2

obtuse pasture
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oh yea

late dust
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Or 3, depending on which hints you use, but whatever

obtuse pasture
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what is that supposed to mean

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oh wait i think i get it

late dust
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If you use h_30 and h_31 you get a_28 * a_33

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Huh actually I got confused

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So it's 2 or 3

obtuse pasture
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lol

late dust
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No 2 or 4

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Damn it

obtuse pasture
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what

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lol

late dust
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Ok if you use h_30 and h_32, what do you get?

obtuse pasture
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h_30 = a_30 * a_31 * a_32
h_32 = a_32 * a_33* a_34

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which gives you

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a_30 * a_31 * a_32 * a_33

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and

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wait

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i need a_31 in there

late dust
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Yes, so a product of 4 numbers

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Anyway that's not the point

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The point is that you lose all information about a_n because a_n*a_n = 1

obtuse pasture
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yes

late dust
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Now if you use all three hints, you get that information back

obtuse pasture
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yea

late dust
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Ok so with 50 numbers total, do you agree that you cannot use a set of hints such that all numbers are covered once and only once?

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Like you could with just 6 numbers

late dust
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That simply comes from the fact that 50 is not divisible by 3

obtuse pasture
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cus 50/3 is like 16.33

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i think

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no

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16.6

late dust
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Alright and if you don't cover a number, you can't get to the answer

obtuse pasture
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if you dont cover a number thrice

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oh wait nvm you mean that

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ok

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yes

late dust
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So you necessarily have to cover at least one number twice (or thrice)

obtuse pasture
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yes

late dust
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But if you cover any number only twice, you still can't get to the answer since that number is lost

obtuse pasture
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yes

late dust
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So at least one number is covered thrice

obtuse pasture
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yes

late dust
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That means the next number is already covered twice

obtuse pasture
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no

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twice

late dust
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?

obtuse pasture
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wdym next number

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i thought you meant the latter and previous number

late dust
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If a_n is covered thrice, which hints have you used?

obtuse pasture
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a_n-1, a_n and a_n+1

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ok yea they are used thrice nvm

late dust
obtuse pasture
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oh yea

late dust
obtuse pasture
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so you've used

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h_n-1, h_n and h_n+1

late dust
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(btw I haven't defined "being covered" but it's fairly obviously "being included in a hint that is being used")

obtuse pasture
late dust
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obtuse pasture
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yea thats what i mean

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but like

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in hints

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basically you have hint n

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and you use the the hint previous and the hint next in line

late dust
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You define that however you want, it really doesn't matter as long as you're consistent

obtuse pasture
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okeokriekie

late dust
obtuse pasture
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3

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NO

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2

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times

late dust
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Yes

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So what do you need to add in order to be able to get to the final product?

obtuse pasture
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add?

late dust
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Which additional hint do you need to use

obtuse pasture
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wouldnt it be a continuous loop

late dust
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a_{n+1} is covered by both h_n and h_{n+1}. There's only one other hint that you haven't used that still covers a_{n+1}

obtuse pasture
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oh

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h_(n-1)

late dust
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No

obtuse pasture
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no wait

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that wouldnt cover it

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then you'd use

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h_(n+2)

late dust
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Yes

obtuse pasture
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but then that'd bring another digit

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in

late dust
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Now a_{n+2} is covered twice but needs to be covered thrice instead

obtuse pasture
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yes

late dust
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And so on until you use every hint

obtuse pasture
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add a(n+3)

obtuse pasture
late dust
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Well that's the proof

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Not exactly rigorous but one can make it rigorous, though you seem to lack quite a bit of rigor

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Or maybe you're just "cooked"

obtuse pasture
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no i think im just sleepy

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because i onto something at 2

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but now my brain is completely not functioning

late dust
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So take a break then come back to this and try writing a proof from it

obtuse pasture
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or idk maybe i am cooked

obtuse pasture
obtuse pasture
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btw the question has a part two

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but i believe we've covered most of it's proof as well

late dust
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Do tell?

obtuse pasture
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i thought you left lol

late dust
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Ok well it all depends on the divisibility of n by k

obtuse pasture
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right

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as we looked at before

late dust
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Yes though it's not as straightforward as either n/k or n

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Probably it's just going to be gcd(n, k) but I'm too lazy to prove that

obtuse pasture
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quick question

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what grade are you in

late dust
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I'm not a student

obtuse pasture
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oh

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college?

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or like

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professional

late dust
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Are college goers not students? KEK

obtuse pasture
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yea they are

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it clicked l a t e r

late dust
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Well yeah I'm not old or rich enough yet to be retired so you could say I'm a professional in the first sense of the word

obtuse pasture
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so like phd or smth

late dust
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I don't have a doctorate no lmao

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What does it matter anyway?

obtuse pasture
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no u just seemed really smart

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still do

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maybe im just dumb who knows

late dust
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Who knows catshrug

obtuse pasture
late dust
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Probably not but there are many other smart people out there

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Just open a new channel

obtuse pasture
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okayy

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thank you

late dust
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i dont understand the problem

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i understand it but idk where to look for it

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!stat

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!status

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1

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any hint

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in a.

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i forgot how

dawn tiger
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well they give you the dimensions, right? the side lengths are x, x, and 2x

mystic saffron
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it didn't teach me

dawn tiger
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oh that's kind of hard to see at the bottom

mystic saffron
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sorry but i really don't likr these

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that's just revealing the answer

dawn tiger
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volume of a rectangular prism is length * width * height

mystic saffron
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i just need hint

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not a formula

dawn tiger
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how do you get a hint for a volume formula? that's just something you're expected to memorize in middle/high school

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there wasn't really a way for me to give you a hint for what the volume formula is

mystic saffron
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well i mean you can just guide me

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like umm

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not really a guide tho but just a bunch

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Anyway thanks

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now i fucking know the formula again..

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I dont understand how they knew it was complete until level log_(1/(1-alpha))n

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n(1-alpha)^d = 1

and I solve for d right?

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but then Im getting

(log n)/(log(1/(1-alpha))

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im so dumb its the same 🤦

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quartz pier
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why did they pick log_(1/1-alpa)n instead of log_(1/alpha)n

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we could have picked either one right?

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not funny

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<@&268886789983436800>

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yall get a life please

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wanton bison
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idk what's happening

quartz pier
wanton bison
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unfortunately not, i just got on the channel cause i see you often here 😄

quartz pier
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ty

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hi, in the solution on the right im unsure on the fourth line

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the angular motion doesnt match anywhere on the eqn sheet given, so how is it derived?

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hi

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can this be derivated at x=2 and x=-2 ?

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i know it cant be at 1 and -1

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but i feel like the ends should not be able to...

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sterile blaze
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the derivative doesnt exist at the end points

ripe turret
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okay

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i have one more question

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the books says the answer is were "x² + 3x + 2" = 0

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why is this?

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it makes sense when graphing the function, but how can i know this otherwise?

sterile blaze
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a polynomial is differentiable

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however with the absolute value function, when the function is zero, the derivative might not exist

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so u have to check the points where the function=0

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welcome

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Can someone do step by step tutorial

silk quail
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$\sin^2(x)=\frac{1-\cos(2x)}{2}$

clever fjordBOT
urban garden
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Half angle?

silk quail
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yeah

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$\int_0^{2\pi}\sin^2(x),{dx}=\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{1-\cos(2x)}{2},{dx}=\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{1}{2},{dx}-\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{\cos(2x)}{2},{dx}$

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urban garden
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1/2 will be x/2

silk quail
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yes.

urban garden
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What about cos2x

silk quail
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you know that $\frac{d}{dx}\sin(2x)=2\cos(2x)$?

clever fjordBOT
silk quail
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so just reverse that

urban garden
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Sin2x/4??

silk quail
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correct

urban garden
silk quail
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what do you mean?

urban garden
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Like how am I supposed to know

silk quail
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you get it from chain rule and derivative of sine rule

urban garden
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Is it an identity?

silk quail
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so $\frac{d}{dx}f(g(x))=g'(x)\cdot f'(g(x))$

clever fjordBOT
silk quail
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and $\frac{d}{dx}\sin(x)=\cos(x)$ and $\frac{d}{dx}\cos(x)=-\sin(x)$

clever fjordBOT
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So

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$\frac{d}{dx}\sin(x)=1\cdot cos(x)$

clever fjordBOT
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Twiizly

silk quail
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yeah

urban garden
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1 from x right

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mmm

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Ok ok

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oi

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Pi

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And 1/2pi * pi

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1/2

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???

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0.5

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D

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yes

urban garden
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Les go

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Thanks man

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i need help with a few questions regarding this problem

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here is what i know,

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the angle of elevation is 53 deg

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the length of wire will Marcus need to attach the top of the latticework to the ground is 15 feet

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here are the things that have stumped me

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i think that 3 and 4 are correct

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i dont believe it is possible with the given info

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can someone confirm? after that I have more questions about 5 and 6 depending on wether or not I am correct

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<@&286206848099549185> i know its a lot of writing but its a simple problem (i think)

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<@&286206848099549185>

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what’s up

mystic saffron
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Hello

waxen sierra
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geometry?

mystic saffron
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I am here

waxen sierra
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ima just

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put the photos here

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waxen sierra
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i’m not good with word problems

loud grotto
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dang

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back to it ig

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<@&286206848099549185>

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this is just sad lol

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<@&286206848099549185>

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sudden hollow
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so the angle of elevation at the top of the base is arctan 3/4

loud grotto
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yeah 53 deg

loud grotto
sudden hollow
loud grotto
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no its 4/3

sudden hollow
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roughly about 36 degrees

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Anyone

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fair canopy
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Provide me with notes of trigonometry with lots of problems and solutions.

mint mirage
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Khan academy

fair canopy
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Link for jee?

mint mirage
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You didn't say that

uneven osprey
fair canopy
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Jee notes

uneven osprey
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aren't you enrolled in any coaching or something?

fair canopy
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Or any very good book recommendation

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Which contains a lot of solved examples

uneven osprey
fair canopy
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Hmm

uneven osprey
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ever heard of cengage?

fair canopy
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S

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That is for advanced

uneven osprey
fair canopy
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S

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Is there any book?

fair canopy
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but Cengage also have Mains oriented books

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or you could view Arihant as well

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considering what you need

fair canopy
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I just need lot of solved examples

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Can u recommend one book

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Because then it would be easy

uneven osprey
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I am an dropper btw

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so far what my seniors recommended me is Cengage Advanced series

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I have didn't prepared competitively in 11th and 12th so I am not sure about that

fair canopy
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Arihant vs cengage?

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Which is gud?

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What about sl loney trigonometry?

uneven osprey
# fair canopy Which is gud?

both pretty good in their own way, Arihant takes level a bit higher sometimes and sometimes easier
Cengage on the other hand stays consistent in higher difficulty
I am myself using Cengage and it has many illustrations, examples and pretty good level of practice problems

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fair canopy
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So best is arihant and cengage

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In maths

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?

uneven osprey
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for you go for Arihant

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if not available there then Cengage

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A,B,C are angles in a triangle and a,b,c are sides

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What is your qn

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Prove?

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yeH

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OHHHHH

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Why does this compound not have a centre of symmetry