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ember shell
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Positive infinity

signal oar
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Well think about what you get if you plug in e.g. 1

ember shell
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Uhhh ok

signal oar
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$f(x) = 3 \sqrt{2x - 7} - 8$.

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$f(0) = 3 \sqrt{2(0) - 7} - 8 = 3 \sqrt{-7} - 8$.

ember shell
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Fx equals to 3sqrt-5 minus

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Or smth

signal oar
ember shell
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I thought we were doing 1

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😭

signal oar
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So for x = 0, what can you say?

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Is it fine or not

ember shell
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No

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I don't think so

signal oar
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(Why?)

ember shell
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Uhhh it's not like a full answer ig? It's not a single number like 1 for example

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Idk

signal oar
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The problem is the square root

ember shell
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Ye

signal oar
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The square root can only have a positive argument

ember shell
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Oh

signal oar
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But in this case, it is $\sqrt{-7}$.

ember shell
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So it has to be 8 or above?

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The domain?

signal oar
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Like what restriction can you put on x

ember shell
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For z to be positive

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X

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Uhhh

signal oar
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Yes

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and 0 too, right?

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sqrt(0) = 0, that's fine, defined.

ember shell
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The sqrt of 0 is just 0

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Tho

signal oar
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Yeah, so it's defined too

ember shell
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Oh

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Ok

signal oar
# ember shell The sqrt of 0 is just 0

We only worry about things like $\sqrt{-1}$, $\sqrt{-2}$ or $\sqrt{-4}$. \ Can you think of their values? Because there actually is no value in $\mathbb R$.

ember shell
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Uh...

signal oar
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For a solution of sqrt(-1), we would need something squared to be equal to -1

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And we can't have that

ember shell
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Ye

signal oar
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Anything squared is greater or equal to 0

ember shell
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Ic

signal oar
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So for $\sqrt x$, we can put the restriction $x \geq 0$.

ember shell
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Oh

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Ok I think I get ut

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It

signal oar
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Now here, you don't just have x, but 2x - 7

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But the same holds, for $\sqrt{2x - 7}$, we need $2x - 7\geq 0$.

ember shell
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So would that be like x>= 8

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Wait no 7

signal oar
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Not really, be careful, $2x - 7 \geq 0$ is what we need.

ember shell
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Oh yeah 2x

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I forgor

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Uhh

signal oar
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You can treat this like an equation

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Add 7 to both sides

ember shell
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Like then it would be

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4.4

signal oar
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2x >= 7

ember shell
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4.t

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4.5

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😭😭

signal oar
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x >= 3.5

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Yeah, almost, I think that was just a wrong calculation on your part, but the idea should be correct

ember shell
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Ye

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Ok

signal oar
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Yeah, so we need x >= 3.5

ember shell
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Is thst how you write it?

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Or is it something else

signal oar
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There is nothing else in the function that could give you something undefined, only the square root is what you have to worry about, because a square root of a negative number is not defined

signal oar
ember shell
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Oh

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My teacher taught is with the parenthesis

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Thingies

signal oar
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Interval notation: $[3.5, \infty)$. \ Set-builder notation: ${x \in \mathbb R \mid x \geq 3.5}$ are two examples.

ember shell
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Ye

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Ok so how do I find the range then?

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Ehm.....

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@signal oar 😭

signal oar
ember shell
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Oh wait

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So would the range be uhhh

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[3.5,infinity)?

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Hello?

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...ok

signal oar
ember shell
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Uhhhh

signal oar
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Like you can imagine its graph

ember shell
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Positive ones

signal oar
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,w plot sqrt(x)

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Yeah, including 0, as you can see

ember shell
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Ye

signal oar
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Now, $3 \sqrt{2x - 7}$ will go from $0$ to $\infty$ (since $3$ is just a factor on it, and the $2x - 7$ is picked to be $\geq 0$ either way, so it's just like $\sqrt x$) \But we have a $-8$ on it too. That will shift the range

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So it will not go from just 0 to infinity, but from ... (hopefully you can fill this in) to infinity

ember shell
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Oh since it's 2x?

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So it could be -3.5 technically

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Right

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?

signal oar
ember shell
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Ok

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So it would be 7 to infinity right?

signal oar
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We already know that of our function [f(x) = 3 \sqrt{2x - 7} - 8,] the first part, $3 \sqrt{2x - 7}$ is from $0$ to $\infty$. \ It'd not be $7$ to $\infty$, no. \ So we take that $0$ to $\infty$ and shift it down by $8$ because the second part is a $-8$.

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So now it's not from 0 to infinity, but from -8 to infinity

ember shell
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Oh

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So it could be

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[-8,infinity)?

signal oar
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Yeah

ember shell
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Ohh

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Ok ic

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So then for 16.28

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It would be like

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Uhh

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Infinity? As the domain or smth

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Idk I'm kinda stupid

signal oar
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[f(x) = \frac{x + 2}{x - 2}.] What $x$ do you think can you plug in? \ (Or asked in reverse: Are there any $x$ that make this impossible to determine (undefined))?

ember shell
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Uhh like you can plug in 0 right?

signal oar
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Yeah, sure

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2/-2

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That's -1

ember shell
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Ye

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Is thst not allowed

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?

signal oar
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It is allowed

ember shell
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Oh ok

signal oar
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If you can determine a value for it, then it's allowed

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I could determine it's -1

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So it's allowed

ember shell
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Oh wait so would the domain be

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Like

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Infinity

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Negative infinity

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Two open brackets?

signal oar
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(-infty, infty)?
Almost, but there is one value you forgot to consider

ember shell
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Ihh what

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Uhh

signal oar
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Consider $\frac 1 x$. For what value would that be impossible to determine (undefined)?

ember shell
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Oh is it 2

signal oar
ember shell
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😭

signal oar
ember shell
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Ah ic

signal oar
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Because then, you have 4/0

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We don't know what that is

ember shell
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Ye

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But every other value works?

signal oar
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So everything except 2

ember shell
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How do you even write thst down

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😭

signal oar
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Because you can't divide through 0

ember shell
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Ye

signal oar
ember shell
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No

signal oar
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Then maybe you are supposed to use the second

signal oar
# ember shell No

How did you in your class write this? With curly braces {} (set builder notation) or in interval notation (so for example [5, 10])?

ember shell
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I have no clue...

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The second one doesn't look any better tbh

signal oar
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Well, the $\cup$ symbol means "union". \ So for example, with $[1, 2] \cup [4, 5]$, you are saying "1 to 2 OR 4 to 5"

ember shell
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Oh

signal oar
ember shell
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Oh ic

signal oar
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And we are saying here that it's from - infinity to 2), so not including 2, or from (2 to infinity, again not including 2

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So in total, we did not include 2

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But every other value

ember shell
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Ohh

signal oar
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All of R without 2

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That's probably the shortest

ember shell
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Oh

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Ok

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So for example loke

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Like

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20.1.1 for the domain would this be correct?

ember shell
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Ok and then the range would be like

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Uhh

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Give me a second

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I'm stupid

signal oar
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Saying that is useless and just unnecessary, don't...

ember shell
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Uh ok

signal oar
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So you have $\sqrt{2 + x}$, that's just the same as $\sqrt x$ when looking at the range.

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And the range of $\sqrt x$ is $[0, \infty)$, right?

ember shell
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Uhh ok

signal oar
ember shell
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Yee

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Yes

signal oar
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So now you have a -5

ember shell
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Yeah

signal oar
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That shifts everything down by 5, so your range will be \$[0 - 5, \infty - 5] = [-5, \infty]$.

ember shell
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Yeah

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So ur saying

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That's what the range would be?

signal oar
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Yes

ember shell
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Why are they both closed tho?

signal oar
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Oops, the one at infinity shouldn't be closed ofc

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The one at -5 should be closed

ember shell
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Oh lol

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😭

signal oar
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infinity is not a number, so we never close that one

ember shell
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Yeah okk

signal oar
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I made a typo

ember shell
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No it's ok

signal oar
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You can also imagine this graphically

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,w plot sqrt x

ember shell
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So the problem to the rights would be [7,infinity)?

signal oar
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And now we are shifting that down by -5

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,w plot sqrt x - 5

ember shell
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Oh

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Thst makes a lot of sense now ye

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Btw

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Ehst does the @ symbol mean in math

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😭

signal oar
ember shell
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I have no clue uhh ok wait let me show you ig

signal oar
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Sure

ember shell
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this should be like the second to last thiing

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uhhh

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idk it was given to me

static totem
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they say what it means

ember shell
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uhhh

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wut

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i just dont understand the format then

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or what its trying to ask me

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ig

signal oar
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It's not a common symbol, they define it as that expression

ember shell
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oh ic

signal oar
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We can define any symbol to mean anything

ember shell
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oh so its just there to make me pissed or smth

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good to know

static totem
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in a sense

ember shell
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lol

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so if we're not doing a square root problem

signal oar
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They want to say $\frac{a^3 - b^3}{a - b}$ shorter than having to write all of that out all the time for all variables $a$ and $b$, probably.

ember shell
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oh ye

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ok

signal oar
ember shell
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uhhhhh

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elaborate

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pls

signal oar
# ember shell

$a@b$ is defined to mean $\frac{a^3 - b^3}{a - b}$. So now you can say $1@3$ and it means the same thing as [\frac{1^3 - 3^3}{1 - 3}.]

ember shell
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ohhh

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ic ic

signal oar
ember shell
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ok last thing

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uhh

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i think i already asked too meth bleh

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much

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i hate spelling

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uhh

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so if the problem isnt a uhh

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square root problem thing

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uhh lemme show you

signal oar
ember shell
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oh yeah

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its because this is like

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stuff i needa catch up on

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😭

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so i haev to figure out most of it out by muself

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uhh

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so for example

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on this problem

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how would i find the range

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since its not the same format

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as the other ones

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did i confuse you?

signal oar
ember shell
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wdym large x

signal oar
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It'll be a huge number divided by a huge number

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And the +2 and -2 won't matter

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Like imagine we pick $x = 100000$.

ember shell
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a

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ah ic

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uhh that huge number would still work though technically

signal oar
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Then $f(100000) = \frac{100000 + 2}{100000 - 2}$. That is $\frac{100002}{99998}$. This will be a bit larger than $1$ but very near to it.

ember shell
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yeah

signal oar
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Now take an even larger number. f(1000000000000).
That will be even nearer to 1, only a tiny bit larger than it.

ember shell
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ok

signal oar
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Well, it will never reach 1 if we take larger and larger values.

ember shell
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so would that just be even closer to 1?

signal oar
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It will always be a tiny bit larger than it

ember shell
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so the range would be uhh

signal oar
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Wait, now look at x to -infinity

ember shell
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oh

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ok so for example like

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-4?

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that would be like

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1/3

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right?

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after being simplified

signal oar
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$f(-100000) = \frac{-100000 + 2}{-100000 - 2} = \frac{-99998}{-100002} = \frac{99998}{100002}$, just a bit smaller than $1$. For even smaller (more negative $x$), it'll also just always be a bit smaller than $1$, but never reaching $1$.

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So for x to +infinity, it doesn't reach 1, for x to -infinity, it doesn't reach 1

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So now let's look at when x gets near to 2, since that's where there is a hole in the domain

ember shell
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Uhhh

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Oh

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It's a little bit less than one

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So would it just be [-1,1]

signal oar
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From the left (so $x < 2$), if we go very near $2$ (but we're not allowed to reach it, since it's not in the domain), if we pick for example $x = 1.99$, then we'll have [f(1.99) = \frac{1.99 + 2}{1.99 - 2} = \frac{3.99}{-0.01} = -399.] For values even nearer to $2$, left from $2$, the range will go to $-\infty$. \[10pt] Now from the right (so $x > 2)$, if we go very near $2$, if we pick for example $x = 2.01$, then we have [f(2.01) = \frac{2.01 + 2}{2.01 - 2} = \frac{4.01}{0.01} = 401.] Now for values even nearer to $2$, right from $2$, it'll got to $\infty$.

ember shell
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Ok uhh

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So thst would be the rsnge?

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Or am I just wilding

signal oar
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Ok so now imagine the graph, from the left, it approaches 1 from the bottom (since it's less than 1). Then, it suddenly becomes very negative.

Now, starting at the very right, it approaches 1 from the top (since it's greater than 1). Then, it suddenly becomes very big.

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The graph will probably help you follow all my arguments

ember shell
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....huh

signal oar
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,w plot (x+2)/(x-2)

ember shell
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Ah ic

signal oar
ember shell
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Ok

signal oar
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So the range is $\mathbb R \setminus {1}$.

ember shell
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....

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Ok 😭

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Is there no other way to write it?

signal oar
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The range?

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Or the argument

ember shell
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Uh the range

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😭

signal oar
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$(-\infty, 1) \cup (1, \infty)$ or ${x \in \mathbb R \mid x \neq 1}$ are some.

signal oar
ember shell
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Oh ic

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U r very helpful

signal oar
# ember shell

I'd suggest really take your time with these, imagine how it looks like, plotting/sketching these quickly can help

ember shell
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I don't wanna sound like a creep but can I friend you if I need help later

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Because this is very confusing

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And there's like a lot more things I needs do today

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πŸ˜…

signal oar
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I'm not that much on Discord, but if you open a help channel, there'll pretty much always be someone available

ember shell
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Oh ic

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Ty anyways

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Lol

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That's about it

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Bye :D

signal oar
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Bye

ember shell
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.close

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tidal barn
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So

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tidal barn
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How many arrangements of the letters A, B, C, ..., O, P exist such that by removing some letters, one cannot obtain any of the words PONK, DOBA, or COP?

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A-P is 16 numbers, therefore 16!

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How to continue

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leaden quiver
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I wonder if its easier to remove all cases that include the words ponk doba and cop

tidal barn
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You must remove some sequences

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Because for example POABENK

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is actually what cant be in it

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Cuz u remove ABE

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and u have PONK

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idk how to do ir

open onyx
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the only interesting part is to prevent overcounting

find the smallest set of removed letters that satisfies the property the question asked for

tidal barn
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Well

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The theorem

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Principal of inclusion and exclusion

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Needs to be used

open onyx
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we’ll get to it

tidal barn
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U think we can do it quickly in 15mins? Ive been sitting on this for 2h, i need to submit it to teacher

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Rn i have there 16! - (16 4) - (16 4) - (16 3) + 3

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16 4 thing is combinatirict number

open onyx
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cutting down from 16! is fine but i don’t know what your idea with 16c4 and 16c3s is

tidal barn
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Its the number of how to choose 4 positions among 16 total

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For PONK

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then for DOBA

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and finally for COP

open onyx
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so if you remove ABCD for PONK (?) then you have 12 letters left
how does the second 16c4 work

tidal barn
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I dont know how to explain tho

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I choose 4 positions for word PONK among 16

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POABCENFGHK

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Example

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i am so lost solving this question... can anyone help me explain how to find the values of a and b given I found the equation to cn+2?

harsh prairie
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The correct answers I've gotten was by plugging in a value for n then testing the result in all the inputs so, altough I got most of them correct, idk wth is going on

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glass shadow
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i need some more help

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glass shadow
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how would i do these

forest sky
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,rotate

clever fjordBOT
forest sky
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take the two points on the lines given. pick one point as your start point and one point as your end point.

  • find the "rise": how many grid lines above or below is the second point compared to the first point? this is positive if it's above, negative if it's below.
  • find the "run": how many grid lines left or right is the second point compared to the first point? this is positive if it's to the right, negative if it's to the left
  • find the slope: the slope is equal to rise/run. make sure you keep the proper sign
glass shadow
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how would i do this?

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help

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celest grotto
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can someone help me with the first question

celest grotto
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the answer is no

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i guess it’s because quadratic doesn’t have an inverse function?

half fulcrum
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ans is yes i believe

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oh wait idk actually

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fossil moth
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fossil moth
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Question of relative velocity

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I find it difficult to understand, can someone please help

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The answer is a

static totem
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doesn't make much sense

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oh the units are different

fossil moth
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Oh

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Just noticed as well

bronze epoch
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First, convert all units to m/s. Then, the velocity of the bullet relative to the thief is: velocity(police) + muzzle velocity - velocity(thief)

fossil moth
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Ok

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Why are we adding the velocity of muzzle though?

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I thought it was already relative to the ground, seems like it's relative to police

bronze epoch
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The muzzle velocity is relative to the gun, which is traveling with the police at 45 km/h

static totem
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that's what it means, how much speed the bullet gains relative to the gun

fossil moth
fossil moth
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20m/s

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i found the velocity in km/hr first then I'm converting into m/s..the answer is not matching..

noble forge
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did you convert muzzle velocity to km/h

fossil moth
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Ohh no

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I didn't see that one was also in m/s mb

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Oh now I'm getting 150m/sec

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Thanks

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fossil moth
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fossil moth
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This one is more confusing

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If the driver finds other train to be moving in same direction on same track with velocity v, the other train should be move ahead so no collision would happen

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And if it's from behind, the driver should be accelerating, not retarding

signal yacht
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what about none

fossil moth
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Lemme see answer

fossil moth
signal yacht
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oh

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it says v1 v2

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ig your question has a typo

fossil moth
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I can't form a descriptive image of the sutuation

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Ohh

signal yacht
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yess

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wha

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use algebra

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to solve for y2

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multiply both sides of an equation by the same thing

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Problem: For any given married couple, P(husband retired) = 0.7
P(wife retired) = 0.4
P(husband retired given wife retired) = 0.8
Choose 2 couples, P(one wife retired and one husband retired) = ?

civic storm
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Where's my mistake:
P(1 wife retired) = 1 - 0.4Β² - 0.6Β² = 0.48
P(1 husband retired | one wife retired)
= 1 - P(2 husbands retired | 1 wife retired) - P(0 husbands retired | 1 wife retired)
= 1 - 0.8 β€’ 0.7 - (1 - 0.8) β€’ (1 - 0.7)
= 1 - 0.8 β€’ 0.7 - 0.2 β€’ 0.3 = 0.38
Answer = 0.38 β€’ 0.48 = 0.1824
(correct answer = 0.2016)

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Probably in the P(one husband retired given one wife retired part)

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I'm not sure how you calculated that

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Adding a footnote

boreal crag
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The logic doesn't seem right

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Edited

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Hmm

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Yes recheck that step

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What's P(0 husbands retired | 1 wife retired) and why

civic storm
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no, I don't think it should be

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you need P(husband retired | wife didn't retire)

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Which is definitely not 0.7

civic storm
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Sorry I'm not used to conditional prob notations

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P(0 husbands retired | 1 wife retired) is (1 - 0.8) β€’ (1 - 0.7)
Former for husband with retired wife, latter for husband with unretired wife

boreal crag
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ok, P(2 husbands retired | 1 wife retired)

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The .8 is for the husband who's wife retired, right

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What about the .7

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Wait

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!!!

boreal crag
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But .7 isn't the probability of a husband retiring, given his wife didn't retire

civic storm
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P(husband retired | wife not retired) is not just 0.7

boreal crag
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Right

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Let me work this out

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Yea thanks a lot

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I forgot that having a condition changes everything

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is taking lim of ln(1+a)^1/a the same as ln [lim of (1+a)^1/a] ?

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but when u have ln8 and ln2 ^3, they're not the same

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oh yeah they wrote it down poorly

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It should be $\ln((1+a)^\f1a)$

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As written down

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yw

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how to solve for a?

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Whats the rest of the question

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owhw

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now

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CP = PH = OH = CO

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and CP = 5

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WAIT isnt a = 2.5?

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$\int \sqrt{1-x^3} \dd x$

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Adam Chebil

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How do I evaluate this??

formal ermine
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difference of cubes?

fervent hound
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Then?

formal ermine
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maybe a u sub

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have a go and send your working

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I alreasy tried that, but I didn't know what to do after difference of cubes

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${ \int \sqrt{ \left( 1-x \right) \left( 1+x+x^2 \right)} \dd x$

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(1-x)(1+x+x^2)
(1-x) + x(1-x) + x^2(1-x)

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U sub doesn’t work here

formal ermine
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i realised

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This integral doesn’t have elementary solution

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,w integral of sqrt(1-x^3)

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Because I’ve seen it before

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So there's no function such that its derivative is sqrt(1-xΒ³) ??

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Not elementary ones

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What does elementary mean here ?

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For 8a?

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Can some tell me is this is right?

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jsut to confirm, what is on thy 3rd row from the bottom, you wrote (1/2)e raised to the power of -20(1/2), or to the power of -2(1/2)?

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either way, -20(1/2) nor -2(1/2) arent equal to 1

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My bad my hand writing pretty bade it’s supposed to be -2x

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It’s supposed to be -2xe^-2x + e^-2x

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(1/2)e^-2(1/2) is not equal to (1/2)e^1

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so the second line from the bottom is wrong

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Oh

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do you want to know what exactly you missed or should i let you figure it out yourself?

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Excatly what I missed I have been stuck for a while

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-2(1/2) is not equal to 1, but -1

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🀦

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I feel so dumb

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other than that, everything is perfect (i think)

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Ok thank you

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😭sometimes maths does that to us

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what are x_i and how do they relate to your matrix A

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you still need to define the x_i

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yes them being orthogonal is important

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you need to use that fact in your proof

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also you should do part a before doing part b

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none of your calculation proves anything

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struggling with what exactly?

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part a) tells you to show $||x_1 + x_2||^2 = ||x_1||^2 + ||x_2||^2$

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assuming $x_1, x_2$ are orthogonal.

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use that and expand the left side

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you've expanded them both correctly so far

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but you haven't proven equality yet

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apply the first or second one

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yes

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that's not how proofs work

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you start with one side ONLY and do algebra on it until you get the other side

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you can basically delete everything to the right of the equal signs

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like if you type
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and delete def

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what do you get

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yes delete and remove are synonyms

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still haven't removed those

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after your last line here, then you use orthogonality to get the result

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look up the definition of orthogonal

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should be in your book/notes

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QuasiStar θΆ…ζ–°ζ˜Ÿ

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this only makes sense in 2 dimension

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you have an n dimensional vector

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the definition of orthogonal in n dimensions is their dot product is zero

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so this is correct

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You keep putting things you need to delete

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Everything to the right of the equal sign on the first two lines should be deleted

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!show

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$\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}+\frac{1}{c}=\frac{bc+ac+ab}{abc}$

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that's clear right?

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i made it into one fraction

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the lcm of a, b, and c is a*b*c

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not yet bro

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haha be patient

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i'm not giving away solutions like that

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$$\frac{bc+ac+ab}{abc}=1$$
$$\implies bc+ac+ab=abc$$

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if the sum of three number are equal to 1 and the multiply of the three numbers also equal 1 what thats mean?

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a=1-b-c
->
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bc+c-bc-c^2+b-b^2-bc=bc- b^2c - bc^2

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-> (b-1)(c-1)(b+c) = 0

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u still didnt solve or ur done?

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its not too hard just think a lil bit

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i think we dont solve here?

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πŸ™‚

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bro what is that 😭 😭
god i know i will hate maths even more in the coming years

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help

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i need help

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with

gentle abyss
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the square root of 4

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ur trolling?

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no i am new to this

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i am homeschooled and my mom isn’t home right now

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u can legit type it into google and big 2 will show up

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its 2

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πŸ”₯

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ok

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if ur actually not trolling

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not true xd

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now true

keen mason
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mb dude

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huh

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" Square root of a number is a value, which on multiplication by itself, gives the original number"

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I've been working on this proof. After trying a few values, it's like 1.6... so I'm thinking it is the golden ratio. Anyways, the sequence isn't monotonic, it alternates like up and down.
So I tried some subsequences
like the even subsequence I have proven is increasing, and the odd is decreasing
if I have that they are both bounded in the proper direction respectively both by phi, then I'm done
but I don't know how to get started on showing this bound. Any help?

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do you have any facts that will help you prove (a_n) converges?

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not find the limit but just that it converges

desert marlin
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If it was monotone and bounded

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which it is not

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if it was cauchy

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which is hard

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if both the even and odd subsequences converge to the same value (which is what I'm trying)

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since the even and odd subsequences are monotonic I just have to show they're bounded

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i'll just add that if it does converge, say to $X$, then we have $$\lim_{n\to\infty} a_n = 1 + \frac{1}{\lim_{n\to\infty} a_{n-1}}$$ or equivalently $$X = 1 + \frac{1}{X}$$

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summer cradle
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which does narrow it down to the golden ratio

desert marlin
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right

summer cradle
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(it's either the golden ratio or that other solution but that one is negative)

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right

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so maybe it'd be easier to show it is cauchy

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but I got stuck trying that aswell

summer cradle
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i'm not sure yet but just wanted to point out it will be enough to show (a_n) converges

iron bear
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very fibby

summer cradle
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we could like, do some linear algebra

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but not sure that's the intended idea

iron bear
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i will note that 1.5 <= a_n <= 2 for n>1

desert marlin
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Bounded yes but not monotonic

iron bear
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(so you can prove that the sequence is contractive)

desert marlin
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I'm not sure what contractive means

iron bear
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|a_(n+1) - a_n| <= r|a_n - a_(n-1)| for some constant r<1

desert marlin
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hm I don't think that's the expected way, never seen it before

summer cradle
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snow you're so smart

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i'm sorry i called you bad at math i take it back

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does that work?

iron bear
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the sequence is always rational

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and the numerator/denominator are the fibonacci numbers

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So are you both indicating that it would not be possible to show these are odd/even subsequences are bounded ?

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that's what I wanted to try

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but if I can't do that I can try other stuff I guess

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Right but bounded by phi

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like

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I've shown the even sequence is monotone decreasing

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if I can show it has GLB=phi

iron bear
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i think you can just prove that they converge to the same limit

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right

iron bear
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without bounding by phi

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I was trying to use monotone sequence theorem

iron bear
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yes

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to prove they converge to the same limit

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how would you do it without that?

iron bear
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well we know the sequence is bounded

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and the odd/even terms are monotone

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so that guarantees their convergence

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then you know what they converge to

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but I haven't shown it

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without knowing their sup and inf

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right?

iron bear
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the recurrence relation will tell you exactly what they converge to

desert marlin
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OHHH

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I CAN DO ALGEBRA ON THAT

iron bear
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because of what layla wrote before

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yeah

desert marlin
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I can do that algebra

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not on the whple sequence

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but on the subsequences

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too

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okay

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dang

iron bear
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ye

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very nice

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ty snow

iron bear
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I noticed some mistakes in my algebra for one of the directions but other than that I'm good now

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great

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How's the sum of roots equal to zero here?

low locust
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vieta

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multiply out (x-x1)(x-x2).. and compare the coefficient of x^3 with the given polynomial

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lethal cipher
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Ola

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I need help rq

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These different parameters

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ax+bx+cx+d

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d is on y-achse

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c on x-achse

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a is amplitude

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what does b do

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lethal cipher
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all good

boreal crag
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what

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that makes zero sense

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i was talking about sinus function

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and yh ur right b period

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pi pi half

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i found a very good video so im good

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mystic saffron
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how did it get 7 as the maximum value

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i still don't know how the answer is 7

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ohh

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but how did it get 7

boreal crag
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from the graph

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the bolded section is the section that's actually part of the domain

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where is the highest point on that section located

hardy panther
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(I sent that like 8 minutes ago)

lethal cipher
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_<

hardy panther
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I'm on my phone using data, there was a connection issue

lethal cipher
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Yea happens, hope ur wifi gets better

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my wifi broke once and after that i got a new one delivered

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2 days like without good wifi

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πŸͺΏπŸ“

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Am I getting this right?

Find the probability of each outcome when a biased die is rolled, if rolling a 2 or rolling a 4 is three times as likely as rolling each of the other four numbers on the die and it is equally likely to roll a 2 or a 4.

P(1) = x

P(2 or 4) = 3 (P(1) + P(3) + P (5) +P(6))
P(2 or 4) = 3(x + x + x + x)
P(2 or 4) = 12x
P(2) = 6x
P(4) = 6x

P(1) + P(2) + ... + P(6) = 1
6x + 6x + 4x = 1
16x = 1
x = 1/16

P(2) = P(4) = 6/16 or 3/8
P(1) = P(3) = P(5) = P(6) = 1/16

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why is the solution to $\frac{x}{2x-1}-1\geq 0$ not just $x\leq 1$

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x/(2x-1)>=1

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x>=2x-1

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0>=x-1

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1>=x

remote prairie
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because 0 doesnt work

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so its less than or equal to 1 just not 0

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you have to split the problem into the cases where the value you want to multiply is strictly positive or negative

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oh

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Pls help

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Not for #5 tho

grizzled tide
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!status

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glossy drift
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Um

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I dont know where to begin

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FOR QUESTION 6

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A and B

velvet totem
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do you know how to find the maximum of a function

glossy drift
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No

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Im dumb man

velvet totem
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you've done calc right

glossy drift
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No

velvet totem
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okay

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is this for algebra

glossy drift
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Is this like a university math server….

glossy drift
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So idk

velvet totem
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okay

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are you familiar with completing the square

glossy drift
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Yes

velvet totem
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so you can write any quadratic in this form. a scales (stretches/squishes) it vertically, b translates it horizontally, and c translates it vertically

velvet totem
glossy drift
velvet totem
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yeah

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just

velvet totem
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blissful musk
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Can also use -b/2a

velvet totem
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idk how well im explaining this

blissful musk
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Faster

velvet totem
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yeah

glossy drift
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Wrong right

velvet totem
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yeah

glossy drift
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So then what is it

blissful musk
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Gives you the x value of vertex then sub in for y value

small kettle
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it will give two x values

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replace those two x values with T and test them out

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you may even get a negative

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take the highest x value you got from the 2

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and then replace it with T, thats the max heigh

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now to find how long the arrow would be in the air

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you got the answer for A with what i said above, so replace h with the answer you got

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for example, lets say it was 20 or something, now the question would become

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20 = -4.9t^2 +50t + 2.3

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i assume you know how to solve from here

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switch 20 to the other side and it becomes

-4.9t^2+50t-17.7

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do the quadratic equation again

glossy drift
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OHHH

small kettle
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and boom'

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thats the time

glossy drift
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okay also how do u do C tho..

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-b/2a then quadratic formula?

small kettle
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its literally just the same thing lol

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they just changed the equation a little

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do the same steps

glossy drift
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What abt the 40% gravity…

small kettle
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that was already accounted when they changed the equation

glossy drift
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OH

small kettle
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it becomes this with 40% less

glossy drift
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Okay

small kettle
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all they did was change the x^2 variable

glossy drift
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Ok and do u know how to do #7

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That 2 confusing

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1

small kettle
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ill tell in a few minutes

glossy drift
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Alr

small kettle
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a

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ok so i had to go somewhere but i figured it out while walking

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so they lose 400 people per 0.10 increase

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that means 4000 people per 1 increase

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how many times does 4000 go in 12000

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4000*3 = 12000

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because obviously 4*3 = 12

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that means they need to increase it to the price of 3 dollars to lose all their cusotmers

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from some testing, it seems that at 2 dollars, they make the max revuene.

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the formula is R = P*(12000-400 multipled by (p-1/0.10))

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R = revunene
p = price

small kettle
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but at 2 dollars, at 8000 customers, they get 16000, whcih is the highest

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@glossy drift

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oh alr

small kettle
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