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manic flax
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not 1

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but you can do that way too

zinc hornet
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ohhh yeah true I forgot

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abstract walrus
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Simple question here regarding matrix linear transformations:
I have to find a rotation matrix and then reflect that matrix in the x axis.

Do I multiply the rotation matrix with the reflection matrix, or the other way around?

That is:
Rotation Matrix x Reflection Matrix
or
Reflection Matrix x Rotation Matrix?

I was thinking that it was the first option, but some google searches suggest otherwise. If not, why is this not the case seeing as reflection occurs AFTER rotation?

ashen remnant
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think about what happens when the transformation gets applied to a vector

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in the first case you would get

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Rotation matrix x Reflection matrix x vector

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so the vector actually gets reflected and then rotated

abstract walrus
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you're saying it's the second option?

quick crag
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Think of it this way. Let M and N be matrices, and v be a vector.
M N v is the vector meaning M (N v), which is "do N, then do M"

heavy yoke
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matrices are like functions in that they apply "right to left". so for example sin(cos(x)) applies cos first and then sin

abstract walrus
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ah those explanations are understandable

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second option it is

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versed pelican
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Can someone explain the jump from first to second step

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Shouldnt the 7 be in the denominator?

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Bc isnt 7^n+1 just 7^n times 7?

autumn idol
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what does / mean there ?

versed pelican
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And flipping the fractions would put 7^n+1 in the denominator

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Divided by

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Fraction

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Top is a_n+1 bottom is a_n

autumn idol
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maybe 7^n isn't included in the fraction

versed pelican
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They make it seem like it is

autumn idol
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There should be parentheses there tho

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But if it isn’t like that then 7 should be in the denominator

versed pelican
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Huh yeah i think they must have just made a typo or something

autumn idol
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yeah porbably

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There we go

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hello i am trying to show that it isnt surjective how would i go about doiong that

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i need a hint to push me in the right direction

heavy yoke
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try a few examples of elements of N × N and try to find their preimages

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and if you can't, try to show that they don't have a preimage

atomic hill
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bu like i feel like that would do no good

icy ocean
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oh shit wrong question again

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ok wait lemme pull out a scrap pape

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@icy ocean its always gonna create a distinct element in teh co domain

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but im still confused on how i am supposed to show that it isnt surjective

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there has to be an element that isnt mapped

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in the co domain

icy ocean
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if p is prime and p = nm, what can you say about m and n?

atomic hill
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n has to be a 1

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m has to be prime

icy ocean
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m has to be p

atomic hill
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yea sorry p

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ok so how does this help me get a counter example

icy ocean
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so, is there a preimage to (7,2), for example?

atomic hill
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no

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oh its unmapped

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thats insane

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so does that fall into my counter example

icy ocean
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looks like you started a proof by contradiction

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but I don't think that's necessary

atomic hill
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ok so i just do a direct counter example

icy ocean
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you simple must show an element of the codomain which does not have a preimage under f

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and justify why so

atomic hill
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@icy ocean is this good

icy ocean
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on the first line of the argument, it should be "its only divisors"

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to simplify it, you could just that there does not exist an integer m such that 2m = 7

atomic hill
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oh ok alr thanks

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atomic hill
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how do i show that this is surjective, showing surjectivity seems confusing

heavy yoke
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given any k, try to come up with some formula (doesn't have to be the only possible formula)] for n and m which gives f(n, m) = k

atomic hill
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more than one m and n

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i am a bit confused on how id go about doiong that

heavy yoke
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that isn't really relevant to surjectivity, just injectivity

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for surjectivity, just show that at least one (m,n) is mapped to each k

atomic hill
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well we are trying to shw surjectivity here tho

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i mean like im a bit confused

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how tf are you supposed to do that

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plus like if there is an element in the codomain that isnt mapped then its intantly not surjective

heavy yoke
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we would like to show that each element in the codomain is mapped to at least once

atomic hill
heavy yoke
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we don't care if it happens more than once, just showing that it gets mapped to once is enough

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so we would like to come up with a formula which associates each element in the codomain with one preimage int he domain, if possible

atomic hill
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oh ok

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ok

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so lets say f(n.m) = k

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and k = m + n -1

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given this since its (m,n) in N^2

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we know that it is mapped to every number

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@heavy yoke is this corret

heavy yoke
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well we would like to show that assuming k is a natural number, you can give a solution for m and n in N

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so can you give me a formula which takes in k, and gives me positive integers m,n?

atomic hill
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a formula that takes in K and gives you positive m, n

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m = k - n + 1

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and n = k - m + 1

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@heavy yoke im confused

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how does this work

heavy yoke
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well you can see that at the moment we have a bit more freedom than we know what to do with

atomic hill
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yea math is hard man

heavy yoke
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it might help if you arbitrarily fixed one of the two variables (m or n) and solved for the other one in terms of k and the fixed variable

atomic hill
heavy yoke
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not really

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just choose a very simple value for either m or n

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then you have less to work with

atomic hill
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oh

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like 1

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let m be 1

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and n be 1

heavy yoke
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well we can't fix both of them

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but for example let's fix m to be 1. can you then find a formula for n in terms of k?

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Hi, I'm having trouble with an algoritm tion

languid tree
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Im just confused where to even begin. We've learned about the Dijkstra algorithm, max flow, and max matching but I'm not sure how to apply those concepts to this problem

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I think I should be using the max matching technique. It's just a weird problem because it says describe the algorithm you would use

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Would I just say maximal matching where each square is a vertex and there are edges between each square next to each other?

ashen remnant
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if you learned about an algorithm to find the max matching then you can probably cite that

languid tree
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ok great! thanks

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I think the problem is just worded really weird

ashen remnant
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i would say something like

  • check whether there are the same number of squares of each color (if there aren't, then it's impossible)
  • apply the max matching algorithm on the graph you described
  • if the size of the max matching = half the number of squares, then it's possible, otherwise it's impossible
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this would be an "algorithm"

languid tree
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ok thanks so much! this was very helpful and I really appreciate it

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no problem

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versed knoll
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hi can i have some help for precalculus

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!da2a

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versed knoll
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why would you plug in arcsin(0.3052) instead of arcsin(-.3052)?

rugged orchid
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,w arcsin(-0.3052)

rugged orchid
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that does not look like x is in 0 to 2π

versed knoll
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what if u +2pi

rugged orchid
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,w arcsin(0.3052)

versed knoll
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oh wait i get it

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so u find the reference angle?

rugged orchid
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it makes more sense looking at a graph i think

versed knoll
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what abt unit circle diagram

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ok

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i think i kidna understand it

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uh

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nothing much

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i just dont understand it

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i thought it would be 118

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since central angles are equal to its arc

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but ig not

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its in

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in on out

paper depot
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when you have two intersecting chords like this there's a theorem which says that angles SRT and LRU are each equal to half the sum of arcs ST and UL

fringe cairn
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k

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SL is

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can

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like

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sorry

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are the answers?

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random wave
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You might not have any answer because some of the notations in the statements are not standardized.
Personally I can't see what is this m thing, as well as what is this K(97). But the E, I'm pretty sure it stands for the mean value, since it is normalized but ... That's pretty much it

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So as a consequence, you would need to clarify it, then create a new post

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Can someone explain why I would +13 first

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PEMDAS would have me do otherwise no? Or since im only face with what I have, I have to do that first

outer warren
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+13 to both sides isn't the first thing that you "must" do

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but in many cases its more convenient to work towards first isolating -9x or 9x

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and not introduce fractions until the end / when required

true juniper
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So always isolate the variable first?

outer warren
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not an "always" / "must" situtation
its just more convenient if you do

true juniper
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ive noticed when I do them in different orders I get different answers

outer warren
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if done properly, the end result will always be the same

true juniper
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oh

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let me practice then

outer warren
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if you're getting something different, you messed up somewhere

true juniper
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So for example I can divide by 8 or subtract 7 from both sides and will get the same result

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let me test

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ah well no because sometimes ill get a deicmal right

outer warren
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if dividing by 8 first, make sure you're dividing the whole side by 8,
not just whatever term happens to appear first

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leave expressions as fractions

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don't round / use a calculator to get decimal approximations

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e.g. leave 31/8 as 31/8 and work with that

true juniper
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Yes I did notice when I get decimals it cant be that so I usually backstep and add or subtract first

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These two steps are extremely simple but you gotta know the rules

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thanks

outer warren
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wdym it can't be that

true juniper
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It cant be a decimal it has to be a whole number

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so I correct myself and do the other thing first

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I.E not the nunber with the variable

outer warren
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is that stated in the question / a restriction of the problem?

true juniper
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It does not state rounding or anyhting of the sortt

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or find the nearest decimal

outer warren
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solutions to equations aren't always nice, and won't necessarily be integers
and intermediate values don't necessarily need to be integers either

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dividing both sides by 8 is perfectly legal,
and 31/8 can be represented as a terminating decimal,
that in no way means this process is invalid

outer warren
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as mentioned, as long as the steps are valid,
the end result will be the same

true juniper
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thats what im left with but do I multiply -16 x -6

outer warren
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your manipulation was invalid

true juniper
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oh

paper flume
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Charky

paper flume
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how do we get rid of -16

true juniper
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+16

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multiply

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idk AHHH

paper flume
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hint: we have to times by something both sides of equal sign

true juniper
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so we multiply x -16 to both sides

paper flume
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no

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multiply by the denominator

outer warren
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just -16

paper flume
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so they cancel out

outer warren
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not x-16

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or is that x supposed to mean multiplication

true juniper
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multipluy

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sorry

outer warren
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(don't use x for multiplication)

true juniper
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yea I should use parenthesis

outer warren
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and you already used the word multiply

paper flume
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$\times$

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Charky

paper flume
true juniper
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I GOT IT

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11

paper flume
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after multiplying that

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W

true juniper
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W BOYS W

paper flume
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good job

true juniper
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thanks for the help

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Trying to get my ged ;p

outer warren
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if you wanted to do subtraction/addition first,

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you'd wan't to first split the fraction

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$$\frac{n}{-16} - \frac{5}{16} = -1$$
so the value you'd want to add to both sides would actually be $\frac{5}{16}$ \
$$\frac{n}{-16} = -\frac{11}{16}$$
and multiplying both sides by -16 will give you the same result of $n = 11$

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ℝαμOmeganato5

true juniper
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woah

outer warren
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like i won't call it a hard rule, just convenience to do multiplication first there

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one of the basic principles of equation manipulation is applying the same operations to both sides,
just do what you feel will help work towards isolating your variable

true juniper
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okay okay

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thanks a bunch

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❤️

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also helps to explicitly state your intention when still new to this

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summer carbon
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Need help with this question, losing my mind

summer carbon
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I determined the critical points were x^2=0, x-3=0, (x+5)^3=0 to get x= 0,3,-5. I'm just not entirely sure where to go from her e

paper flume
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yes

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easiest way is to literally test points between those values

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u have the following boundaries to test, x < -5, -5 < x < 0, 0 < x < 3, x > 3

heady vine
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check where the inequality doesn't hold
for x^2>0 hold for R-{0} but then a value like x=2 wouldn't hold in the original inequality

summer carbon
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by testing them am i just plugging them into the formula as a whole to see if it's greater than 0?

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so -5^2(-5-3)(-5+5)^3>0?

paper flume
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yeah, but not the boundary points, cuz its greater than

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at the boundary points the equatin is equal to 0 not > 0

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so u could test like, x = -10, x = -1, x = 1, x = 10

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note that x^2 > 0 for x not 0, so u can look at the other two only

summer carbon
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wait explain that last part for me

paper flume
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for example at x = -10, (-10 - 3)(-10 + 5)^3 = (-13) * (-5)^3 > 0

paper flume
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therefore x^2 > 0 no matter what

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its just a shortcut

summer carbon
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so i really only have to worry about the latter part of the equation?

paper flume
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yep

summer carbon
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rah one sec

rugged orchid
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There’s a much easier way to do this

summer carbon
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so the neg 13 x neg 5cubed is -1625 which is less than zero, so that doesn't work right?

rugged orchid
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You’re given the inequality in the factorised form of a polynomial

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The sign of the highest power tells you the general shape

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Each factor tells you the roots

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And the power of that root gives its multiplicity

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You can easily sketch the polynomial

paper flume
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do yk how to graph it

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it is alot easier if yk

rugged orchid
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Graphing is a lot easier

paper flume
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yeah ur right

summer carbon
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@rugged orchid i think the way that charky is doing it is the way we were taught, which is how the prof wants us to work it out

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we haven't learned about graphing it

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Ah I see

paper flume
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i was taught to do that too at first

rugged orchid
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My curriculum spent a lot of time teaching us curve sketching

summer carbon
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this is math for business and economics, idek if we'll cover that. plus i switched to nursing to this won't really be applicable in my future lmao

rugged orchid
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They don’t teach math because of specific math concepts, it’s more generally applicable as a way of thinking and solving problems

summer carbon
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well i was a finance major which is why the advisor suggested this class over different math course

rugged orchid
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Testing points vs curve sketching is an example of 2 pretty different methods for solving this problem, but one is much easier and faster, so it’s about picking the right tool for the job

summer carbon
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understood

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so i got that -10 and 10 fit the equation, but -1 and 1 do not. so its (-oo,-5)U(3,oo)?

rugged orchid
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Yes

summer carbon
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bet

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thanks bros

rugged orchid
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Btw it looks like that

summer carbon
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i couldn't guess that even if i was drunk with a pencil man LOL

rugged orchid
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When you learn curve sketching it makes a lot of sense

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in general cauchy condensation test is good for weird logs

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but do u know how condensation works

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condensation says 2^nf(2^n) is our comparison candidate. i suggest trying to find the same candidate another way

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typo mb

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they probably found a different comparison candidate and used p series test on it

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ig they saw $1/(\log n)^{\log n}\le1/n^p$ for some $p$ and for all large enough $n$

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it sounds reasonable but im gonna leave the details to u since i have a movie to catch

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Can someone help on part c

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@math helper

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I don’t get the marking point

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Why do u set it as 512b and -144a

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little yoke
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Teacher hasn't returned my lectures, is this correct? Law of cosines, solving for angle A

kind light
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no

little yoke
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Ok, I'm supposed to do inverse cosine but my calc keeps saying math error

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😭

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edgy gulch
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2(10)(18.06) is not 36.12

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i think you messed up your decimal placement

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Ok, I'll redo it in a sec

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,w 21018.06

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

little yoke
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edgy gulch
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the side on the left should be the side that is opposite with angle A

kind light
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yeah that is swapped, but it didnt matter as the answer will be the same, if you continued what you were doing then you would be finding angle B instead of angle A

edgy gulch
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in this case its 10

little yoke
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Wym?

kind light
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it should look like this, see a=10 and b=12

little yoke
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Ohhh, I'm definitely blind

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👽

edgy gulch
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i mean you could continue with what you had

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but you have to subtract 180 with the two angles that you have

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to get A

little yoke
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Excuse my penmanship 👽

edgy gulch
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470.055

little yoke
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No?

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OH

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give me a sec

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370.055

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A = 31.46

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?

edgy gulch
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yeah somewhere about that

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though you should avoid rounding in the middle of calculations

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to get the most accurate calculations possible

little yoke
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Alr

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But it should alr if I rounded off the c value before using it in finding angle A right?

edgy gulch
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yeah

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you can round in final answers

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just avoid it in the intermediate steps

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raven bough
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The author tried explaining the difference between the two questions but I am still not able to see it , can someone explain it to me

raven bough
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only the ques

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drifting whale
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If you want to visualize it

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But basically conditional probabilities have so “symmetry” its like

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Which wouldnt mean that Pr (A’|B) = 0.5 but it does not denote that

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Pr(B|A) = 0.5

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If you took a complement

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I think thats what you were asking

raven bough
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dumb it down a little

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I didn't get what you mean by "symmetry" over here , even the author talks about it but i didn't quite understand it

drifting whale
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So like

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You know compliment theory

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I think thats what they mean

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For conditional probability you cannot just subtract to get another different condition. Like 1 - Pr(A|B) is not equal to Pr(B|A)

raven bough
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but don't both the ques mean "atleast one child is girl?"

drifting whale
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I think thats because of how the question is written

raven bough
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so is it right or is it wrong ?

drifting whale
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Yea its just different contexts

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But its not the same

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Its the same probability

raven bough
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💀

drifting whale
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Just not the same context for each problem

raven bough
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the more i think about it the more i get confused

drifting whale
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Bruh

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Just consikt

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Consult

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The statistics discord

raven bough
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what whom how where when

raven bough
drifting whale
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I mean the question is kinda funky but its basically the same concept no? You know one of them is a girl and given this information what is the probability that the other is a girl

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raven bough
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don't tell me people be using AI models to explain stats stuff

drifting whale
drifting whale
drifting whale
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Since its asked you what is the probability that both are girls given you know atleast 1 of them are

raven bough
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complicated sh*t

raven bough
drifting whale
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Because one is older

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If we know the older of the two was a girl it changes it

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i am again confused 💀

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leave it ig

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Trying to optimise this using lagrange multipliers

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$(2x,2y)= \lambda(y,x)$

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what a wonderful world

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can i try help you

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I mean, let me send my working first

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scenic ravine
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$2x= \lambda y
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2y =\lambda x$
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$\lambda = \pm 2$.
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We thus have $x=y$.
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We thus substitute that into the constraint to obtain $x =y= \pm 1$
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Thus the maximum , subject to the constraints is $2$

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What a wonderful world !

paper depot
# sudden relic whats a factoid

our bot has a bunch of canned messages for common scenarios so that helpers don't have to retype the same thing a million times, and instead can just type a factoid name beginning with ! and have her say it

paper depot
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or are you going over the exact same problem for the (n+1)st time

sudden relic
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(n+1)st time

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so wouldnt n just be the number of times that the question has been asked

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and then the plus one is like the current time

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and then st is like 1st kinda 'st'

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i solved the problemm

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paper depot
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@sudden relic ... if you just want to goof around, may i please direct you to #discussion or #chill for that?

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help channels are not the place for this.

sudden relic
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i was just trying to help

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but i will leave

scenic ravine
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Does this work fine?

sudden relic
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yeah i think it works

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goodluck for your pop quiz tomorrow

scenic ravine
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thanks

signal pendant
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Let x = 2 and y = 1/2 then x^2+y^2 = 17/4 >2

scenic ravine
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Hmm

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right

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that wuld be the minimum

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there is no maximum I think

paper depot
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it should make sense geometrically that there is no max

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f(x,y) is the squared distance from (x,y) to the origin -- and the curve xy=1 goes off to infinity

scenic ravine
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got it

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yes

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peak cloak
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Heyy, could someone explain to me how im supposed to prove something is a generating set?

peak cloak
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I know a generating set can generate the entire span of a verctor space

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But how do i show that???

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paper depot
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you're doing linear algebra, yes?

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hazy urchin
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Hey o

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hazy urchin
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I tried doing the intercept theorum

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Oh yeah the translation is

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  1. The figure below shows two rulers, A and B, graduated linearly, with different units and positioned parallel to each other.

The figure also shows where the x-values (horizontal positions) of three points on both rulers coincide.

The value y on ruler B, which coincides with 27 on ruler A, is:

a) 54
b) 55
c) 56
d) 57
e) 58

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Basically find out what Y is

pearl wadi
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10x2 + 4 = 24

hazy urchin
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I don’t see one 😭

pearl wadi
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48 x 2 + 4 = 100

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27 x 2 + 4 = y

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58 should be

hazy urchin
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How long did it take for you to figure that out

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Just curious

pearl wadi
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not long lol

hazy urchin
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Incredible

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Y’all are like superhumans

pearl wadi
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no usually when u get stuck at a question u try finding a pattern instead of sticking with the regular method

hazy urchin
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I tried

pearl wadi
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trust me there are way smarter people here than me

hazy urchin
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I did like 10*2.4

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Than I tried on the other and didn’t work

pearl wadi
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did you get it now?

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hazy urchin
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I’m doing thr other questions so

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Just waiting to see if I get stuck again

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The figure representa a profile of a reservation of water with side AB parallel to CD.
If a is smallest and b is 50% bigger than a, than the value of X is

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I think I figured it out

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Smallest cousin is 2

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hazy urchin
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b is 3 cause it’s 50% bigger than 2

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.reopen

vocal sleetBOT
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hazy urchin
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Uh

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Than doing the theorem of tales

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I got 6

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X=6

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Is that right

lone linden
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,w x=3/2 (x-2)

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lone linden
pearl wadi
pearl wadi
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didnt see he already gave answer

grim escarp
hazy urchin
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The commands for bots

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A group of people was divided into two halves. In the first half, the ratio of the number of men to women is 1 to 2, and in the second half, the ratio of the number of women to men is 2 to 3. In the entire group, what is the ratio of the number of women to the number of men?

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I have no clue

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My guess was to add up both ratios

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But it doesn’t seem right

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Yeah I’m lost

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<@&286206848099549185>

lone linden
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,w [thing]

hazy urchin
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U helped one of my questions a while ago

hazy urchin
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Wdym by that tho

tranquil charm
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write ratio for both

vocal sentinel
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Men:women
team1 1:2
team2 3:2

hazy urchin
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Like 1:2 and 3:2

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Yeah

vocal sentinel
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Yes

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What’s the total for each team

hazy urchin
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What next tho

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3 and 5

vocal sentinel
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LCM?

tranquil charm
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eh

hazy urchin
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What’s LCM

tranquil charm
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VERY carefully

vocal sentinel
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Lowest common multiple

hazy urchin
hazy urchin
tranquil charm
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Example: LCM of 3 and 4 is 12

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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there's 2 ways id go about doing this
either 1. assigning a value to the total myself and working backwards with actual values

or 2. using 2x as the total and working in terms of x to get a final man/woman ratio in terms of x so that theyd cancel out and i'd be left with just the ratio

peak flower
hazy urchin
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So I didn’t know the abbreviation

grim escarp
hazy urchin
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1

grim escarp
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alright so first id write down the ratios

hazy urchin
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Mhm

grim escarp
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1:2 men to women in the first

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meaning 1/3 men and?

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(fill in the blank)

hazy urchin
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Uh

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Wdym

tranquil charm
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How many women

grim escarp
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1/3 men and ___ women

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fill the blank

hazy urchin
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But there’s more men in the 2nd

tranquil charm
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He is talking about first

grim escarp
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we'll get to the second dont worry

hazy urchin
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Why u putting it in 1:3 rn then

grim escarp
grim escarp
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do you know what 1:2 means

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let's say we have 3 apples

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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I want you to divide them in the ratio 1:2 between me and you

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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how many apples will you get and how many will I

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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exactly! so to put this as a fraction, you got 1/3 of the total while I got 2/3

hazy urchin
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Or ill get half what u get

grim escarp
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with the 1:2

grim escarp
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1:2 means you will get 1 part

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while I will get 2

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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making a total of 3 parts

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so if we go back to the men and women

grim escarp
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if there's 1/3 men

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how many women are there then

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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perfect

hazy urchin
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U have to finish the rest right

grim escarp
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so let's say for example we had an original total

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of 300

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now let's see your question

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"A group of people was divided into two halves."

hazy urchin
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A group of people was divided into two halves. In the first half, the ratio of the number of men to women is 1 to 2, and in the second half, the ratio of the number of women to men is 2 to 3. In the entire group, what is the ratio of the number of women to the number of men?

grim escarp
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can you divide this into 2 halves

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divide 300 into 2 halves

hazy urchin
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150

grim escarp
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perfect, now on the first half apply the ratio 1:2 and tell me how many women and men are there

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in the first half

hazy urchin
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50 men 100 women

grim escarp
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PERFECT!

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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can you do the same for the second group now?

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be careful though the ratio is the other way round this time

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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perfection

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so now just total up the men and women

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in both groups

hazy urchin
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140 men 160 women then we simplify right

grim escarp
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and now find the ratio of women to men!

hazy urchin
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7:8

grim escarp
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close

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it's women : men

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the order matters

hazy urchin
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Ohh

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The wuestion says

grim escarp
hazy urchin
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Yeah

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8:7

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Thank you so much

grim escarp
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perfecto

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the other method is more generalized

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you'd take 2x as a total

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so that each half would have x

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right

hazy urchin
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So u just have to put a placeholder number

hazy urchin
grim escarp
hazy urchin
grim escarp
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meaning in the first group youd have 1/3 x men and 2/3 x women

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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can you do the same for the second half?

hazy urchin
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Lemme try

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2/5 women 3/5 men

grim escarp
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2/5 x

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and 3/5 x

hazy urchin
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Oh right

grim escarp
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important to specify

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then

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youd total them up

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and then you'd find the ratio!

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,w (16/15 x)/(14/15 x)

twin meteorBOT
hazy urchin
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I don’t get it we did them separately

hazy urchin
grim escarp
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just instead of a placeholder

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you use x

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because what if we took 100 instead of 300

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then dividing 50 in 1:2 involves decimals

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which can give rounding errors

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this is foolproof

hazy urchin
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Mhm

grim escarp
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i hope this helped

hazy urchin
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How did u get from that fraction to the other one 8/7

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Wait can u do the inverting thing to make it multiplication

grim escarp
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yep

hazy urchin
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Oh ok

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Tysm

grim escarp
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16/15 divided by 14/15 is

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16/15 multiplied by 15/14

hazy urchin
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My

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Mhm*

grim escarp
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(it's called taking the reciprocal just fyi)

hazy urchin
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I live in Brazil so idk the names in English

grim escarp
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yesyes

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im just informing you

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doesnt hurt to learn!

hazy urchin
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I left Canada after 5th grade

hazy urchin
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This place is way better than ai

tranquil charm
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sam

hazy urchin
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Sometimes I don’t understand well

tranquil charm
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you can use latex to help them understand

grim escarp
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i just write it on a calc and ss for now

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tex is hard 😭

hazy urchin
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How old are you guys if u don’t mind

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I’m 15

grim escarp
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18

hazy urchin
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Damn

grim escarp
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also

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!done

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hazy urchin
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I wonder if I’ll know as much as you when I turn 18

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Let dev mask finish typing then I’ll type it

tranquil charm
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$\frac{16/15}{14/15}$ can be written as $\frac{16}{15} \cdot \frac{15}{14}$

hazy urchin
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What

twin meteorBOT
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devthemasked

hazy urchin
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U just swap the denominators

grim escarp
tranquil charm
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it's kinda not hard these stuff

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I am also learning

tranquil charm
hazy urchin
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Mhm yeah

grim escarp
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(if im being honest i havent even started learning tex 😭 im gonna after my exams in june)

tranquil charm
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just check my code and u will understand a lot

hazy urchin
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Imma go write this down now cause I have to present these questions tomorrow to my teacher

tranquil charm
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ok

hazy urchin
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Tysm

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In the adjacent figure, the triangle OBM is isosceles.

a) Prove that the coordinates of M are (-√3, 1)
b) Calculate the trigonometric numbers of the 150° angle.

Can someone explain to me how to solve this?
The image in the book doesn't have that A line but the version of the problem i found online had it

sweet phoenix
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so MA is basically cutting the triangle in half, forming 2 right triangles

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lets first find the length MA, remember we're involving the hypotenise and opposite side of the 30 degree angle here

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sin theta equals opposite over hypotenuse

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we know that theta is 30 and the hypotenuse is 2

median thistle
sweet phoenix
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much easier

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so the opposite side should be 2 sin 30

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which if u input it in ur calculator, is 1

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so would u agree M has a y coordinate of 1

median thistle
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pause

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i need to process all of this

sweet phoenix
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ok

median thistle
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30+2 is 32

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oh wait

sweet phoenix
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then multiply the whole thing by 2

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so basically 2 lots of sin30

median thistle
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we are using English terms

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uh

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what is sin

sweet phoenix
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its a trigonometric function

median thistle
sweet phoenix
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helps u to find triangle stuff

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sides, angles, all of it

median thistle
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my calculator shows sin cos

sweet phoenix
median thistle
sweet phoenix
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never seen that before

median thistle
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wait i can press on it

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never knew lmao

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mb

sweet phoenix
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ah its alright

median thistle
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ok so what now

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what do i do

sweet phoenix
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do u have the sin function displayed

median thistle
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yes

sweet phoenix
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now press 30

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the angle

median thistle
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ok

sweet phoenix
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and u would get something like 0.5

median thistle
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0.9

sweet phoenix
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0.9?

median thistle
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0.988

sweet phoenix
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maybe ur calculator is in radians not degrees

median thistle
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i found the degree button

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ok 1/2

sweet phoenix
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then u see the hypotenuse?

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its 2 so multiply the whole thing by 2

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,rotate

twin meteorBOT
sweet phoenix
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basically how the sin function works

median thistle
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so 2x1/2

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1?

sweet phoenix
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mhm

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so MA is 1

median thistle
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ok what about the √3

sweet phoenix
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A lies on the x axis, so its y coordinate is 0, so does it make sense that M's y coordinate is 1?

median thistle
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it lies on the x axis tho

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A

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not y

sweet phoenix
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typo mb

median thistle
sweet phoenix
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now lets find the x coordinate for M

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do u recall the pythagorean theorem

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or pythagoras for short

median thistle
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yea i think

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C² = a² + b²

sweet phoenix
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mhm

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whats our c in this case?

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the hypotenuse

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and our a?

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the new length we just found, 1

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so 4=1+b^2

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because 2 squared is 4, 1 squared is just 1

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so b^2 is 3

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take the square root of both sides

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b is square root of 3

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that make sense?

median thistle
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I'm so fucking lost I'm so sorry

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i need to go on after school classes

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math is not for me

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i got a 14 the last semester

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out 20

sweet phoenix
median thistle
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ok

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do u have an issue with why it exists, or how to apply it to this situation?

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do u have trouble knowing what is a b and c?

median thistle
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how i use it

median thistle
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u know that right triangles

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have 3 sides

median thistle
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yes

sweet phoenix
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and there is a very long one

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longer than the 2 of them

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which is the hypotenuse

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like this side

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u can see its the longest side of them all, but not by a lot

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i know the hypotenuse is the opposite side from the 90

sweet phoenix
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i'll have to derive the pythag hold on a sec

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so ur average right triangle

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with a square attached to each side

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lets call each side a letter

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cuz it could be 10 could be 10000 we could make up anything

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but for simplicitys sake lets call the shortest side a, the second shortest b, and the longest (hypotenuse) c

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something like this

median thistle
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do we choose what to name the sides

sweet phoenix
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convenience

median thistle
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can c become a

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a become b

sweet phoenix
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cuz u wanna define them first

median thistle
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ok ok continue

sweet phoenix
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so we got a few squares

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how do we find the area of them?

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we know that the area of a square is length x length

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aka length squared

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so would it make sense for a square with length "a" to have the area "a^2" and "b" "b^2"?

median thistle
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yes

sweet phoenix
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now

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my drawing aint very accurate

median thistle
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i don't mind

sweet phoenix
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but if u add the a^2 and b^2 up

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the area combined

median thistle
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ab²

sweet phoenix
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should be equal to the big square, c^2

median thistle
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i guess

sweet phoenix
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that is defined for every right triangle

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so apply this to our problem

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lets make a square on each side of our "triangle"

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our "question" here

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we previously showed that the side is 1

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remember i said the area of the 2 small squares add up to be the big square

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so what should the area of our square equal

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? = 1 + 4

sweet phoenix
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cuz 4 is the biggest square

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ok

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what now

sweet phoenix
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so rearrange the equation

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and u would get ? = 4-1

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which is 3

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now

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if the area of a square is 3

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what is the length

median thistle
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what

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oh

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√3

sweet phoenix
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mhm

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so in our original question

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we're moving sqrt3 spaces to the left

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and 1 space up to get to M

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ok

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thanks for explaining

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I'll probably still join some after school school

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ik most of it isnt right

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onyx sapphire
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Basically i want to find the slope for 30 min to 45 min but idk how to do change of y over change of x properly

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Basically which order the points should go

heavy yoke
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you can pick any two points provided it's easy to read their coordinates

manic bay
onyx sapphire
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Ik that but which points do i put where

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Does it matter if i put one set of points in front of the other or no?