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oak magnet
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Well yes

snow schooner
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So Mr jay was wrong on y ou tube

atomic jasper
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you find a=4

snow schooner
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Yes

atomic jasper
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now, lets replace that = with a > again

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and we get a>4

oak magnet
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It will be the same process for inequality but with specific rule

snow schooner
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So I was right

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ember bronze
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A pyramid with a square base has its vertex in the plane with the equation 𝑧 = 3 Three of the vertices of the base are points in the 𝑂 𝑋 𝑌 OXY plane:A=(1,0,0), B=(1,1,0), and C=(0,1,0).

ember bronze
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c) If the vertex of the pyramid is the point 𝑉 = ( 𝑎 , 𝑏 , 3 ) , what is the equation of the line that contains the height over the base?

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agile mica
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Im having trouble understanding how the radical simplifies to what it is below

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agile mica
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Im getting a 2 in the numerator instead of a 1

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nvm i think i just made some dumb mistake

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prisma badger
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can someone walk me through this

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halcyon imp
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Are you supposed to prove LH equals RH ?

prisma badger
halcyon imp
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Oh gotcha, first question. Are you working with only real values?

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or also complex

prisma badger
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i dont know what that is so i assume real

hazy spindle
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You can literally replace the number one on the right side with log7(7), then just have the arguments from left and right be equal

halcyon imp
hazy spindle
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Have (x-2)(x+4) equal to 7

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That is the only time when log7(y)=1

halcyon imp
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Not sure what that means

prisma badger
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ok

hazy spindle
hazy spindle
prisma badger
hazy spindle
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I provided you with 2 ways 💀

prisma badger
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because what if it dosnt equal 1

halcyon imp
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You could also raise both sides as exponents with base 7, then the log should cancel out and you get the same result

hazy spindle
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As long as you know how logarithms work, you should be fine. If it equals 2, then with, log7(y), the y would have to be equal to 49

hazy spindle
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That would be quite weird, but you could just have log7(those arguments you've got there) = log7(7^58), then just solve for the arguments

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But that is not a log that you'd typically get asked to solve

prisma badger
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ok

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also

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did i do this right

hazy spindle
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It is quite messy, could you provide just the intervals for which it holds true?

prisma badger
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x<-1/2 and x>2

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also i checled the answer for this and it was 3 but i also got -5

hazy spindle
prisma badger
hazy spindle
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Try plugging in -1 then. You are right with x>2, but not the other one.

prisma badger
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which equals positive

hazy spindle
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????

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Plug it into the inequation

prisma badger
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(4(-1) + 2) = -2

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-1 - 2 = -3

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wait

hazy spindle
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Into the original one

prisma badger
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but i shouldnt need to

hazy spindle
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Aight, do as you think, gl

prisma badger
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how do i get the right answer then??

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heavy palm
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Am i on the correct path so far?

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heavy palm
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trig substitution

silk osprey
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x = atan(x)?

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use a different variable

heavy palm
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yes

silk osprey
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like u

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or theta

heavy palm
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ok

silk osprey
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x = atan(u)

heavy palm
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ok

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👍

silk osprey
heavy palm
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i cant do that?

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uhh

silk osprey
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the a^2 is being raised to the power of 3/2

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since it’s in the parentheses

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so it becomes a^3

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(ab)^c = a^c * b^c

heavy palm
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ok

silk osprey
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$\int_0^a \frac{a\sec^2 u}{a^3\sec^3 u} \dd{u}$

twin meteorBOT
silk osprey
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$\int_0^a \frac{1}{a^2\sec u} \dd{u}$

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silk osprey
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do you see how i got that

heavy palm
silk osprey
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$(a^2\sec^2 u)^{\frac{3}{2}} = (a^2)^{3/2} (\sec^2 u)^{3/2}$

twin meteorBOT
silk osprey
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multiply the powers

heavy palm
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ah

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sorry

silk osprey
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no worries

heavy palm
silk osprey
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where?

silk osprey
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but where do you take |a|

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oh wait i forgot to change the bounds lol

heavy palm
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well just replace a with |a| no

silk osprey
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x goes from 0 to a

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honestly i never change the bounds i just find the anti derivative then convert back to x

silk osprey
silk osprey
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since a > 0

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doesn’t make a difference

heavy palm
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yeah

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i see that now

silk osprey
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we can just integrate now

heavy palm
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and bunds just plug in a into x?

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to change th ebounds

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of what i made x right like

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i made x = atan(theta or u)

silk osprey
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$\int \frac{\cos u}{a^2} \dd{u}$

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you can change the bounds if you’d like

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i just find it to be more work usually

heavy palm
silk osprey
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essentially no

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but i guess it’s personal preference

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i just made it a habit to find the anti derivative first because i’d get carried away doing that instead of caring about changing the bounds

heavy palm
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oh nvm

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you already accounted

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silk osprey
heavy palm
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mbmb

silk osprey
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i just saw the sec^2 up top and in my head saw a^2 as well

heavy palm
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at all

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?

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just curious

silk osprey
heavy palm
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okay

silk osprey
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i took ap calc

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i’m just tired lol

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it’s easy to make mistakes in these for sure though

heavy palm
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a is a constant here correct

silk osprey
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yes

heavy palm
silk osprey
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$\frac{\sin u}{a^2}$

twin meteorBOT
silk osprey
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then in trig sub you’ll usually have to draw a triangle

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and relate sin u to x

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x = atan(u) so tan(u) = x/a

heavy palm
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is this different

heavy palm
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i have to draw a triangle first

silk osprey
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not all questions will be definite integrals

heavy palm
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For indefinite I assume I’ll have to do triangles

silk osprey
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but if you’re comfortable with it then by all means

heavy palm
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Would be definite integrals?

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Just wanna clear it up

silk osprey
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yes

heavy palm
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Ok thank you

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mighty stone
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velvet karma
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can you think of how we might do that

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mighty stone
velvet karma
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exactly!

mighty stone
velvet karma
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im assuming u mean 8x - 3x not 8x =, if thats the case then you're right

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except for a small error, it should be - 15 not + 15

mighty stone
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oh i see

velvet karma
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distribute the negative

mighty stone
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okay so i think i get it now

velvet karma
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it becomes a -

mighty stone
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thanks

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np!

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arctic bison
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Could someone tell me about this method, way of doing derivatives please

arctic bison
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This is how i did. But this method seems easier

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Maybe just tell me the formula or something, i will youtube the video on a person doing an example

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(Sorry if noob question)

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night zodiac
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I have no idea what you did to arrive at your second step. But if you have reasoning and proper justification, then yes, that is both easier and quicker.

Generally, most people would use a combination of the product rule and the quotient rule to solve this.

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And that is what I did as well.

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Doing the method you used is most likely not going to be allowed on an exam though; I can't pinpoint what rule—if there even is one—you pulled from to reach such a conclusion! Would you care to elaborate on your workings?

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crystal python
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how do i do this

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mental falcon
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what are the options? what are your thoughts?

crystal python
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im not sure how to even approach this

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the answer options are <0 =0 >0

torpid olive
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what do u think is at f(-1)

crystal python
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4

mental falcon
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well you have the graph of f, so what do you think about its value at x = -1

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if you are in a calculus class and you cant answer this one then you are in trouble

mental falcon
crystal python
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0

mental falcon
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so what was unclear about that one?

crystal python
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but what about f'(-1) how would i get that

mental falcon
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what does the derivative of the function represent geometrically?

crystal python
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slope?

mental falcon
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yeah slope \ whether the function is increasing or decreasing

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so what is happening with that at x = -1?

crystal python
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slope is increasing

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i think

mental falcon
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yeah, the slope seems positive

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to be careful lets say the slope is positive, not that the slope is increasing because that sort of seems to imply youre talking about how the slope is changing not what it actually is

crystal python
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okay

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so since its increasing would we make that as >0

mental falcon
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yep

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positive*

crystal python
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positve

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yes

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so what about f''

mental falcon
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what do we know about a point of inflection and its definition?

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since we have one there

crystal python
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im not sure

mental falcon
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ok so look up the definition of point of inflection in your book \ wherever you have definitions and see if that helps you answer

crystal python
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so its where the concavity changes

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a point on where it changes

mental falcon
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yes, and what's the relationship between the second derivative and concavity?

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and do you understand concavity visually, looking at the graph of a function?

crystal python
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the second derivative determines the concavity

mental falcon
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yep

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so when a function is concave up the 2nd derivative is positive, when its concave down the 2nd derivative is negative

crystal python
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ok well its also concave up right

mental falcon
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looking at the graph of f, what is the concavity for example on the interval (-9, -4)? what about (-4, -1) ?

crystal python
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(-9,-4) would be concave down and (-4,-1) would be up i think?

mental falcon
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yeah exactly, we can just tell based on which direction the graph is "curving towards"

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ok and at a point of inflection, what would we know about the second derivative?

crystal python
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yes so for f'' (-1) it would be >0 then

mental falcon
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hang on, what do we know about points of inflection and the 2nd derivative value there?

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what IS a point of inflection?

crystal python
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it is where it changes concavity

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so that would mean its tagent line is 0

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would that make it 0

mental falcon
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no, it doesnt have to do with the tangent line

crystal python
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dang

mental falcon
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there can be a point of inflection with a non flat tangent line

crystal python
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im lost man

mental falcon
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so concavity doesnt directly describe anything about the tangent lines

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to keep things simple

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2nd derivative has to do with concavity

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1st derivative has to do with slope of tangent lines

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right?

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so how come we brought up tangent lines when we were talking about concavity \ 2nd derivative?

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so for example this graph, wouldn't you agree it has a point of inflection at 0? it goes from concave down to concave up? but it never has a horizontal tangent

mental falcon
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@crystal python are you still here??

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jolly glacier
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jolly glacier
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idk how to approach or do this

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i know from 0 to .25 you make it a and b

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but how do i integrate

unborn wind
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u can do substituition

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or by parts

jolly glacier
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can you walk me through it

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for sub

unborn wind
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u=(1-x)^1/2

jolly glacier
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ohkay

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and what about x^3

mental egret
unborn wind
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1-u^2

jolly glacier
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-(u^2-1)

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yes

unborn wind
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now do cube

jolly glacier
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ohhh

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wait but i have a question

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why is it u=(1-x)^1/2

unborn wind
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because it makes integration simpler

jolly glacier
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but how do you js know that

unborn wind
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intuition

jolly glacier
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bro 😭

languid berry
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experience

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theres patterns

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just do more problems and youll start to get the intuition for it

jolly glacier
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my quiz is tmr im cooked

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primal hedge
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im kinda confused on what the right answer is for this

edgy sapphire
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either look for the one that uses $7 correctly or see which one actually gives a cost

primal hedge
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i dont understand what 7 is

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c?

edgy sapphire
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7 is the product price

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any cost would look like C(...)

primal hedge
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so is it C(7)?

languid berry
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C(x) outputs a cost

primal hedge
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is it the 3rd answer

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dang i really dont understand then

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is it supposed to =7?

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oh its the first answer

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is f(x) 1?

deft oar
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F(x) can’t be a constant

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What’s the relationship between h and g

primal hedge
deft oar
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Let’s abstract this a bit

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g(x) = symbol

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How does that symbol appear on h(x)

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Actually that’s a bad way to understand this

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Let me try again

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g(x) = T , f(g(x)) = h(x) , h(x) = 1/T, what is f doing to g(x)

primal hedge
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oh its dividing it?

deft oar
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Therefore f must be

primal hedge
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im not sure

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what makes something divide

deft oar
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Think of a function, that’s all about dividing

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A function that looks like h(x)

languid berry
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can you write h(x) in terms of g(x)?

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replace the function with just g(x)

primal hedge
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i dont understand what you are referring to

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replace what function with g(x)

languid berry
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g(x) = x-9

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h(x) = 1/(x-9)

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what can you replace here

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in h(x)

primal hedge
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divided by g(x)?

languid berry
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1/g(x), yes

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so if f(g(x)) = 1/g(x), what is f(x)?

primal hedge
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im not sure

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i still dont understand anything going on TT

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what are the steps im supposed to use to solve a problem like that

languid berry
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replace g(x) with x

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f(g(x)) = 1/g(x)

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if u replace g(x) with x

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what do u get

primal hedge
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where do i get x from?

languid berry
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just replace the letters g(x) with x

primal hedge
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oh f(x)=1/g(x)

deft oar
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So close

languid berry
primal hedge
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f(x)=1/x?

languid berry
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bingo

deft oar
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🎊🎊🎊

primal hedge
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no clue what happened ngl

deft oar
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You gotta review what a function is

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You don’t understand what a function fundamentally represents

primal hedge
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it represents a set of instructions for a given input right?

deft oar
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Yes

languid berry
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say you have some function f(x) = x + 1

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you can plug any value in for x

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for example

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x = 2

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then you have f(2) = 2 + 1

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but you can also plug other symbols in for x

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if x = z, you have f(z) = z + 1

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or if x = g(z), you have f(g(z)) = g(z) + 1

deft oar
languid berry
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doesnt seem like they’re at the stage in math where numbers really become a rarity, abstracting might just make it more confusing at this stage

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typically starting with examples and concrete numbers makes it easier in the early stages

deft oar
primal hedge
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i dont really understand what this means

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is there not like concrete steps for this type of question

deft oar
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Lowkey barely understand math myself

deft oar
primal hedge
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i understand what im looking at

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why can g(x) be replaced with x

deft oar
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x is just a placeholder for the value

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Again

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Say f(x) = 13x-1

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f(random ahh symbol) = 13(random ahh symbol) -1

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So in this context

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The random ahh symbol is g(x)

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But now we don’t want no random ahh symbol

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We’re working backwards for that placeholder

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So we swap it to, x,

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To generalize it beyond the random ahh symbol

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It’s like f(symbol)= 13(symbol)-1, or f(g(x)) = 13(g(x))-1

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We just use x as a place holder because it’s nice

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final cedar
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how did t^-3 become positive, its related to indices probably, but if it matters, im trying to solve a differential equations problem, x2y dx - (x3+y3) dy = 0

final cedar
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💔

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..

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<@&286206848099549185> im sorry 😭

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final cedar
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question is x2y dx - (x3+y3) dy = 0

somber portal
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as i said, post the original problem, with all the context

final cedar
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uh, thats the original problem itself?

somber portal
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There must be instructions

final cedar
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"evaluate the diff eqns"

somber portal
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also, i'm completely sure it's not written like that

final cedar
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okay okay holup

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just the powers

somber portal
final cedar
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ah yesyes

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all good till here

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here the problem comes

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how did t^-3 become t^3

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thanks anywayy

somber portal
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hm, i'm having trouble seeing that step, that would be true if $t=\frac{-1}{t}$

twin meteorBOT
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LordFelix

final cedar
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yeah thanks anyway

somber portal
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t= y/x

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seems to me to be an errata, if you look at the next line it just replaces t for its value on the previous line

final cedar
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uhhhhh

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one second let me read that again

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ohhhh it seems like a typoo

somber portal
final cedar
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yesyes

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that step shouldve been 3t^3 in the denominator

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thanksthankss

somber portal
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yeah, i think so

final cedar
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yhanks again

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np

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i do .close right?

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i suppose, if there's no more about this?

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yes

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idk i cant do it

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Compute the values of a nickel and dime

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Then formulate the eqn

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How do I row reduce further from here

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multiply first column by -5 add it to the fourth

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Lemme try this

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thank you @mental egret

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!original

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how do I restructure this function in order to find where the function is >0 etc

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I have to find f(x)>0 ,< 0, = 0 of this function

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but I dont know how to restructure it

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I tried to time it by (x-1)^6 for f(x)> 0

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how can i simplify arsinh(2x*sqrt(x^2-1)) using t = arsinh(x) ?

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Top question

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river kettle
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,rcw

hexed onyx
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Not sure how to start this, directions say no u sub, I overheard someone in recitation talking about a circle

twin meteorBOT
hexed onyx
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So I assume I can say x^2 + y^2 = 16 since 16 the only number there

river kettle
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u can use trig sub or do it geometrically

hexed onyx
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How would I do it geometrically cus I think thats what they wanted

river kettle
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this is just a semi circle

hexed onyx
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Bruh is it just 4 pi

river kettle
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well whats formula for the area of a circle?

hexed onyx
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Pi r^2

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So 1/4 of 16 pi

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?

river kettle
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right

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this is just

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a quarter circle

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and u know the radius is 4

hexed onyx
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Thanks

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How do we close this

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type .close

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.close

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Hello! I need help again I’m really understanding how to do this problem (it’s translated from Italian so it might be a bit different idk)

“For his girlfriend’s birthday, Andrea buys her a bouquet of roses. Of these, the 3/4 are red, 1/3 of the remaining ones are yellow and the last 4 They are white. How many roses did Andrea give?”

acoustic flower
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I know it’s probably easy but I suck at math so please don’t judge me!

peak shard
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Its all good, we are all here to learn, its great that you are looking for help if you dont know how to solve it

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!status

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acoustic flower
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1

peak shard
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first when you are giving such a problem try to make equations out of what you are given

acoustic flower
peak shard
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have you used letters before to represent numbers?

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like in general not for this problem

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specifically

acoustic flower
forest spade
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hi

acoustic flower
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Yea no not really

forest spade
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can i help?

acoustic flower
peak shard
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so lets see then why using letters to represent numbers can be useful okay?

acoustic flower
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Okayy

peak shard
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Let R be the total number of roses Andrea bought.

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now R is just a number, but we dont know which one and our question is to find R

forest spade
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1/4x2/3=1/6

acoustic flower
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Right

forest spade
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1/6x=4

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solve for x

acoustic flower
acoustic flower
forest spade
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im in highschool

peak shard
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If the total number of roses he bought is the number R, then the total red roses he bought is 3/4 * R okay?

forest spade
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what grade

acoustic flower
peak shard
acoustic flower
forest spade
peak shard
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No of the total number of Roses 3/4 are Red.

Andrea buys her a bouquet of roses. Of these, the 3/4 are red
acoustic flower
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Right

forest spade
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i have to go

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bye

peak shard
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so $3/4 \cdot R$ is the total number of red roses

acoustic flower
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So that means maggiority of the roses are red

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Oh okay I get it

peak shard
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So then all the other remaining roses are $1/4 \cdot R$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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does that make sense to you

acoustic flower
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Right

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Yes

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So if 3/4 of the total roses are red

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That means 1/4 are the rest of the roses of different colour..?

peak shard
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yes

acoustic flower
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Okay understood

peak shard
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of these Roses 1/3 are yellow

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this means

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$\frac{1}{3} \cdot \frac{R}{4}$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Okay so

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That means 1/12..?

peak shard
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yes the total number of Yellow Roses is R/12

acoustic flower
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Okayy got it

peak shard
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So and then we get told we have 4 white roses

acoustic flower
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Right

peak shard
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and if we add up all the yellow, white and red roses

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we get the total number of roses

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yes?

acoustic flower
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Yes

peak shard
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then this means

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$\frac{3}{4}R +\frac{1}{12}R + 4 = R$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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this equation must hold true

acoustic flower
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Okay wait let me process this equation

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Okay got it

peak shard
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first it total number of red roses, second one is yellow and then white

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and thats equal to the total number of Roses which is R

acoustic flower
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Okay so We already know the amount of white roses so we have to calculate the amount of red and yellow roses?

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To find the sum

peak shard
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the only thing we need to do from our point now

acoustic flower
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okay I’m understanding

peak shard
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do you know how to work with equations like these?

acoustic flower
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Yess

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Let me try

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Soo

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22/12?

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3/4 + 1/12 + 4 and 12 is the dividible with 4 so then it’s 12 divided by 4 which is 3 times 3 which is 9 so basically 9 + 1 + 12

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I hope that’s correct-

peak shard
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you cant add the 3/4 and 4

acoustic flower
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Ooh

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Ic

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Wait I’m confused now

peak shard
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because

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there is still the number R in front of it

acoustic flower
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Oh right

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But we don’t know what number is R

peak shard
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okay so let me try to explain how to solve this

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the basic idea is

acoustic flower
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Okay!

peak shard
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if way say

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$x = 2$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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then $x + 2 = 2 + 2$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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is also a correct statement

acoustic flower
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Yes because X is 2 so it’s basically 2+2

peak shard
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well yes

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but the reasoning here is that

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I added something on both sides

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then it has to still be equal

acoustic flower
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Oh right

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Cuz

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We know on the right that 2 plus 2 needs to be equal to the one on the left

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Which means it has to be 2 + 2 too right?

peak shard
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well yes

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so maybe that example was to easy then

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let me give you something else

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If we have

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$x - 7 = 12$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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then we can add +7 on both sides

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to find

acoustic flower
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So

peak shard
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$x = 19$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Right

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Because since it needs to be equal

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We need to find a number that becomes 12 when we subtract it with 7

peak shard
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yes so what we learn here is we are allowed to add and subtract any numbers if we do it on both sides

acoustic flower
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Right?

peak shard
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and

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we are allowed to do even more

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if

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$12x = 7$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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X would be -5..?

peak shard
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12x means multiplied

acoustic flower
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Ohh okay

peak shard
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so we have

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$12 \cdot x = 12x = 7$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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what operation do we need to do to get rid of the 12?

acoustic flower
peak shard
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Minus would be if it was added

acoustic flower
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Ohh

peak shard
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so earlier we had + and we did - on both sides

acoustic flower
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Uhh division?

peak shard
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yes and do you know by what number we should devide?

acoustic flower
peak shard
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if we want x to be alone?

acoustic flower
peak shard
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very nice

acoustic flower
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No sorry 12

peak shard
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because 12/12 = 1

acoustic flower
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Yes

peak shard
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so this means

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$12 \cdot x \cdot \frac{1}{12}= 7 \cdot \frac{1}{12}$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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and therefore

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x = 7/12

acoustic flower
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Righttt?

peak shard
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was that understandable?

acoustic flower
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Gimme a sec

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Ooh right

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Got it got it

peak shard
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so we are allowed to add and subtract on both sides and also multiply both sides (but we have to do it to the whole equation! don't forget brackets)

acoustic flower
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Right

peak shard
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we are not allowed to multiply by 0 tho, because then we lose all information and would only get 0 = 0

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which is true but not very helpfull

acoustic flower
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Yess

peak shard
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now we can use this to solve for R here

acoustic flower
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Okay I understood this part

peak shard
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$\frac{3}{4}R +\frac{1}{12}R + 4 = R$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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how we do this has the same concept as before, but just a little bit more complex

acoustic flower
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Okayy

peak shard
acoustic flower
peak shard
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first of all we can simplify 3/4 * R + 1/12 * R

acoustic flower
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Okay so

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We can do

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12 : 3?

peak shard
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do you know the distributive law?

acoustic flower
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Like this?

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Oh wait

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Nvm it’s wrong I think

peak shard
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first of all lets not forgot that you still have an R there

acoustic flower
peak shard
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$a \cdot (b+c) = a\cdot b + a \cdot c$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Okay I kinda know it

acoustic flower
peak shard
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we can use this

acoustic flower
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This is familiari

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Okayy

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Soo

peak shard
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$R = \frac{3}{4}R +\frac{1}{12}R + 4 = R \cdot \left(\frac{3}{4} +\frac{1}{12} \right) + 4$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Okay yea I was about to say that

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So basically

peak shard
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nice

acoustic flower
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We do R x all those fractions

peak shard
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and now you can add up the fractions like you are used to

acoustic flower
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Okay let me try

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Okay so we solve the parenthesis first

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Which leaves me at

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R x 10/12 + 4

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Oh no wait

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We need to use the distributive law

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RightV

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So basically R x 3/4 and then R x 1/12

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Or am I getting mixed up

peak shard
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well

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we used the distributive law to get the parenthesis in the first place

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so we can add up the fractions

acoustic flower
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Right

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Okay so I was correct before

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?

peak shard
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yes we can go back but it would not be very helpfull

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yes its R*10/12

acoustic flower
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Oh ic

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Got it

peak shard
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also know as R*5/6

acoustic flower
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Ooh okay

peak shard
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it has a common factor of 2

acoustic flower
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Right

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Ohh okay I get it

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10 : 2

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And 12 : 2

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To simply it

peak shard
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the more mathematical reason why this works is this, you might have not seen this

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$\frac{5}{6} = \frac{5}{6} \cdot 1$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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do you agree with me on that

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I just multiplied with 1

acoustic flower
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Yes

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Because Multiplying by 1 doesn’t change the number

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It remains the same

peak shard
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$\frac{5}{6} = \frac{5}{6} \cdot 1 = \frac{5}{6} \cdot \frac{2}{2}$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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but 1 is also known as 2/2

acoustic flower
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Oh okay

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It still the same

peak shard
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$\frac{5}{6} = \frac{5}{6} \cdot 1 = \frac{5}{6} \cdot \frac{2}{2} = \frac{5\cdot 2}{6\cdot 2} = \frac{10}{12}$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Just in different ways

peak shard
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we just multiplied by 1

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thats the reason you can cancel out common factors

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because multiplying by 1 doesn't change the result

acoustic flower
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Right

peak shard
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you probably already know that but it can be helpfull to think about stuff like that from time to time

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and remind ourself why it works

acoustic flower
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Okayy

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Got it

peak shard
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$R = R \cdot \frac{5}{6} + 4$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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so we get this

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which looks much nicer

acoustic flower
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Ohhh okay

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Yea it does

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So we would have to do

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R x 5/6 since multiplication comes first

peak shard
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we want to have everything with R on one side and all the pure numbers on the other side

acoustic flower
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Basically get the R to the left side?

peak shard
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that's the first idea after simplifying

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yeah

acoustic flower
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Ohh okay but how do we do that

peak shard
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what do we have to do to achieve that

peak shard
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we accomplished that we are allowed to add numbers on both sides and multiply by anything that's not a zero right?

acoustic flower
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Yea

peak shard
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so now if we want R to be gone in the right side

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we only want the +4 to be left

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how do you get rid of 5/6 * R

acoustic flower
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But what about the 5/6

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Oh

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Hmm

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We use 1..?

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No wait

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Let me think

peak shard
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maybe not so easy if you have never done something like that

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you will get used to it the more you do it

acoustic flower
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Honestly I don’t know

peak shard
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all good

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lets think about it like this

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you want 5/6 * R to be zero right

acoustic flower
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Yes

peak shard
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if we subtract 5/6 * R then

5/6 * R - 5/6 * R = 0

acoustic flower
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Ooh okay

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Since we can add numbers

peak shard
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yes and

5/6 * R

is just a number

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the whole expression is just a single number

acoustic flower
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Right

peak shard
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so we subtract 5/6 * R on both sides

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$R - R \cdot \frac{5}{6}= R \cdot \frac{5}{6} - R \cdot \frac{5}{6} + 4$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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$R - R \cdot \frac{5}{6} = 4$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Right so the one on the right becomes 0

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And on the left the R is removed..?

peak shard
acoustic flower
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Okay so basically it’s just 4 on the left that’s left

peak shard
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and numbers on the other side

acoustic flower
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Ooh right

peak shard
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now you can again use the distribute law

acoustic flower
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But what do we do with just these numbers left to helps us

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Okay

peak shard
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remember what we want to find

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R = ...

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because R is the number of Roses bought

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$R - R \cdot \frac{5}{6} = 4 = R \cdot 1 - R \cdot \frac{5}{6}$

twin meteorBOT
peak shard
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R = R x 1

acoustic flower
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Basically just R=R

peak shard
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yes but with wrting R as R x 1

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we can now use the distribute law

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the thing is we dont know what R is, but we know its a number and we know the distribute law works for numbers

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$4 = R \cdot \left(1 - \frac{5}{6} \right)$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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R= R x ( 4

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Oh wait nvm

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Okay wait

peak shard
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do you see what I did here?

acoustic flower
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I think so

peak shard
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I used the distribute law, which tells us how to do brackets and remove them

acoustic flower
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Basically

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If we solve the thing in the bracket and then do x R it’s gonna be the same as 4..?

peak shard
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yes

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what is the number inside the bracket?

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hint: ||write 1 as 6/6||

acoustic flower
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Okay gimme a sec

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1/6?

peak shard
acoustic flower
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So 1/6 x R is 4?

peak shard
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$R \cdot \frac{1}{6} = 4$

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yes

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Hmm

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How do we do calculate that then?

peak shard
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you might remember something like this from before

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you basically want R to be alone for that 1/6 should turn into a 1, because R * 1 = R

acoustic flower
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Right

peak shard
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how can you achieve 1/6 becoming a 1?

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what operation do you need to do

acoustic flower
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Okay wait

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0?

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Because X 0 the number becomes 1..?

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No wait

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Omg

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Im soo dumb

peak shard
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nah you are good, you realized it

acoustic flower
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Okay wait

peak shard
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Im basically asking

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1/6 times what number equals 1

acoustic flower
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Oh god

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This is hard

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😭

acoustic flower
peak shard
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lets say you have 1/2 if you multiply by 2 you get 1

acoustic flower
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Oh wait

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1/6

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1/6 x 1/6 ?

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No wait

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Hold on

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Let me write this

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Would it be 6?

peak shard
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yes

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because 6 * 1/6 or 6/6 = 1

acoustic flower
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Right got it

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Writing it down is helping me more

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On my book

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So

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R becomes 6?

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Which becomes 1=4?

peak shard
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1 = 4

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is wrong

acoustic flower
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Oh right

peak shard
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but

acoustic flower
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Because it isn’t equal

peak shard
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what we do

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is we multiply both sides by 6

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$R \cdot \frac{1}{6} \cdot 6 = 4\cdot 6$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Okay wait

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Let’s say R is still 6 right

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?

peak shard
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R is not equal to 6

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we don't know what R is jet

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but we multiply by 6 on both sides

acoustic flower
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Oh alr

peak shard
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to get rid of the 1/6

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like you said 1/6 times 6 is equal to 1

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but we cant just do that on one side

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so we have to do to it on both sides

acoustic flower
peak shard
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yes! :D

acoustic flower
peak shard
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so

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$R = 24$

twin meteorBOT
acoustic flower
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Basically

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R would be 24?

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To make both sides equal?

peak shard
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and R was the total number of Roses they bought

peak shard
acoustic flower
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Which means

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The total is 24??

peak shard
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yes

acoustic flower
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And if we want to know the amount of individual flowers

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I would do

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Omg yes

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It’s adding up

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!!!

peak shard
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nice

acoustic flower
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Omg my brain is exploding

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Luckily I took notes

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Omg wait

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This is soo cool

peak shard
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so I hope this might have thought you, how writing numbers you don't know jet as letters, and the solving for them doing nothing but plus minus, multiplying and dividing on both sides

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is something usefull

acoustic flower
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Im gonna try doing that more often

peak shard
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also

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if you want to get used to it

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try solving stuff like

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$3x+12 = 17x - 5$

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acoustic flower
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Ooh okay

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and then find what the number x must be so the equation is true

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Im gonna try doing that

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Mabye later because it’s really late for me rn haha 🥲

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But I’ll keep it in mind

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and with fractions like before it just gets a bit messier, but I showed you the basic idea, of-course you would need to solve many more of these equations to get a better feel for it

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thats the idea how you try to solve these questions

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I truly appreciate it a lot

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you can do .close if you are done

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Okay!!

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.close

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urban zinc
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hey guys

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urban zinc
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So i need a bit of help with this

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it basically says

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If m is the number of elements of the set

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then:
a. m = 3
b. m = 0
c. m = 1
d. m = 2
e. none of the above answer choices is correct

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problem is, i have made it 5 times already

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it always gives me M= {2,3}, so m=2

but the correct answer is c.m=1

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can somebody please help me

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heres my work

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please help me

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edgy sapphire
# urban zinc heres my work

that's the right setup and solution, but you have to plug 2 and 3 back into the original problem to check if they make sense

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since polynomials can be negative and negatives don't really work for C

urban zinc
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so replace n here

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in 2 scenariios?

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2 and 3

edgy sapphire
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oh I guess they both aren't negative hmm

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seems like d is right

urban zinc
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the "good answers sheet" show it is C

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c.m=1

trim tree
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have you tried if n = 2,3 actually equals 1 if you plug if into the binomial coefficient?

urban zinc