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whole forge
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Looking at where the arrows go

jagged cargo
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i'm surprised you got 1a and 1b wrong, while 2a is correct

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they are quite similar

atomic jasper
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did you look at the correct points?

whole forge
atomic jasper
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theyre all about x=1

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leftsided limit, rightsided limit, limit

whole forge
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Correct me if I am wrong on this one

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Answers should be
A. -2
B. 2
C. 2
And D. Is still 2

atomic jasper
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still wrong

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we are looking at this right?

whole forge
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Yes

atomic jasper
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so what happens to the left limit?

whole forge
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It moves up?

atomic jasper
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this is the left limit

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what does this go towards?

whole forge
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Towards the right

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Since I am looking at the arrow as well

atomic jasper
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i meant, which point

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which y value

whole forge
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1

atomic jasper
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exactly

whole forge
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Oh

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So let me get this straight

atomic jasper
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$\lim_{x\to 1^-}f(x)=1$

twin meteorBOT
whole forge
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The limits are the y right essentially?

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I feel like I am finally recalling my grade 11 stock knowledge

atomic jasper
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its what the function approaches

whole forge
atomic jasper
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if you were to put in values of x closer and closer to 1

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you can see that i slowly goes towards 1

whole forge
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Which is the other hollow circle on the left?

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So you mean to say it just transfers to the left hollow circle since they are the same shape and design?
And approaching from the left so there?

atomic jasper
whole forge
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Sorry that was confusing

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So let me get the rules straight

atomic jasper
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but like question 2a and 2b you got correct

whole forge
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When the limit is negative it is approaching from the left and is going towards the right side of the graph

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The positive limits works in an opposite way

atomic jasper
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dont think of it as positive and negative limits

whole forge
atomic jasper
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its a left or right sided limit

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or approaching from below or above

whole forge
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I am using my visualization

atomic jasper
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how did you get 2a and 2b?

whole forge
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Visualization.

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Lucky guess you could say in a way

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I was just observing the circles and arrows

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Ah not lucky since 2a is wrong

atomic jasper
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no, 2a and 2b are correct

whole forge
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Oh I see

atomic jasper
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so im wondering how you got that correct but not 1a and 1b

whole forge
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Lucky guess

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I understand it more now

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I watched this video

atomic jasper
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the left sided limit at x->1 of f(x) is 1

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and the right limit is the same

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the general limit is also 1

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and the function value f(1)=2

atomic jasper
whole forge
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So a and b is 1 right?

atomic jasper
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yup

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and c?

whole forge
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Are they the same cause I just go back and forth or is it a different reason?

atomic jasper
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they are the same because if you go from the left and right you approach the same point

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there is no "jump"

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like if you look at -1, there is a jump

whole forge
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Yes

atomic jasper
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$\lim_{x\to -1^-}f(x)=3\neq 1\lim_{x\to -1^+}f(x)$

twin meteorBOT
whole forge
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Hmm

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C is also 1?

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Or 2 since there is a marble on top?

atomic jasper
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$\lim_{x\to x_0}f(x)=L$ if and only if $\lim_{x\to x_0^-}f(x)=\lim_{x\to x_0^+}f(x)=L$

whole forge
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I don’t get it

twin meteorBOT
atomic jasper
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but yes, c=1

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because a and b are equal and are 1

whole forge
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Oh

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Ohhh

whole forge
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I am coming back to my grade 11 math’s with knowledge I forgot from grade 11 calculus

atomic jasper
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😄

whole forge
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If you ask me why the reason as to why I am trying this

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Well it is because tomorrow we have a test in physics and there are bonus grade 11 calculus quesitons and if we get them right

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Big exam bonus scores

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So I am trying to get all of these right

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So I can figure out number 1 and number 2 now

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Hmmm

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What about number 3 and 4.
You guys didn’t mention that part

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Did I get it right?

atomic jasper
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lemme check

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only 3d is wrong

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(for question 3)

whole forge
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For question 4?

atomic jasper
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4a,b,c are wrong, only 4d is correct

whole forge
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Ohhh

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So 1D is correct right?

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D= 2

whole forge
atomic jasper
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but generally i am quite active in the channels

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so i will see it either way

atomic jasper
whole forge
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?

atomic jasper
whole forge
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Ohhh

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2C is also -6 since it is similar to number 1

atomic jasper
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you are looking at x=-8

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but it asks for x=8

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i know its a bit confusing

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i got ocnfused a few times aswell haha

whole forge
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This is satisfying

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Finally understanding it

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So 3 d is = 1.0?

atomic jasper
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notice how the dot below is filled in and the dot above is not

whole forge
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Why downwards instead of up?

whole forge
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So that’s why

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So if it was in opposite position.
The answers would be different?

atomic jasper
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wdym opposite position?

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if the top dot would be filled in then f(0.5)=1.0

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is that what youre asking?

whole forge
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If the top dot was filled and the bottom dot wasn’t

whole forge
atomic jasper
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it would be opposite

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since it changes function value

whole forge
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I see now

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So my only mistakes left are 4 a,b and c

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Hmmm

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Spoil me a bit on the answers on 4 a, b and c.

atomic jasper
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,rccw

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atomic jasper
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4a,b,c = 4

whole forge
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Wait

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It’s literally just that?

atomic jasper
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yup

whole forge
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Damn

atomic jasper
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there is only a perforation

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so the limit exists

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and if the limit exists, its equal to the left and right limit

whole forge
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Any tips or advice on solving this kind of problem?

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If I ever need to backtrack quickly in the future.

atomic jasper
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imagine there is a bead on the line

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and you slowly push that bead into the position

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*but never actually reaching it!!!

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and you do that from the left and from the right

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if you get the same answer, the limit is that answer

whole forge
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I see

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So allow me to summarize everything up and verify it all to you

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So this is revised and everything I have answered so far

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I am much more confident in answering part 2 because I used a calculator

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Just had to figure out test 1

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@bonk

whole forge
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Everything correct?

atomic jasper
whole forge
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Huh?

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You told me 2c is negative 8

atomic jasper
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the function doesnt even go down to -8

whole forge
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Ohhh

atomic jasper
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not the y

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very different

whole forge
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So it is 2 then?

atomic jasper
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$\lim_{x\to 8}g(x)=5$

twin meteorBOT
whole forge
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Ohhh

atomic jasper
whole forge
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So like a marble

whole forge
whole forge
atomic jasper
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3a is wrong

whole forge
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I guess the answer to all this is practice

atomic jasper
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4 is correct

atomic jasper
whole forge
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No wait

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-1.0?

atomic jasper
atomic jasper
atomic jasper
whole forge
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Or the number itself

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If the number itself

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Well it is a _

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If there are exponents

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There are substituents I think?

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Since that’s what I remember they are called at in chemistry

atomic jasper
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11 is correct

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i think its a typo

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i assumed it to be a - just like you did

whole forge
atomic jasper
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,w graph 1/x^3

atomic jasper
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ah wait nvm nvm

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youre right

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it DNE

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i thought it was simply the RH limit

whole forge
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Aight aight

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So no more corrections at this point?

atomic jasper
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nope

whole forge
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Okay

whole forge
atomic jasper
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np

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👍

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delicate nest
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Can someone help me solve this? I calculated it and it gave me the answer if the $9213.04 was the interest and not total

delicate nest
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Using simple interest

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Idk what I’m doing wrong 😭

grizzled vault
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what answer should you be getting?

delicate nest
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9000

grizzled vault
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is this rounded or something?

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the 9000

delicate nest
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I think so to the nearest hundredth

grizzled vault
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well i don't do this kind of finance math 😭

delicate nest
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In F there’s the answer

grizzled vault
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,rotate

twin meteorBOT
grizzled vault
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,calc 9213.04/1.02367

twin meteorBOT
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Result:

9000.0097687731
delicate nest
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But what I don’t get is there is 2 P’s but the answer ditches one

grizzled vault
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oh i see

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i got the same answer

grizzled vault
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you need to add it to the initial principle

delicate nest
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I’m so lost

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😢

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So when I calculate the interest I don’t have to include the p?

grizzled vault
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the "extra" money is the interest you get

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let's say that's 100

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what's your new "total"

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1000 + 100 right?

delicate nest
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Yes

grizzled vault
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so I = Prt is the money you get from interest

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the "extra money"

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they want the new total

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so P + Prt

delicate nest
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But how can I calculate the interest if I don’t know what the principle is?

grizzled vault
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btw brb

vocal sleetBOT
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@delicate nest Has your question been resolved?

grizzled vault
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but you don't have to calculate it separately, do you?

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they want you to calculate the "new total"

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new total = old total + interest

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old total = P

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interest = Prt

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new total = P + Prt

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you know new total 9213.04, r = 4.8%, and t = 180/365 years

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so 9213.04 = P(1 + rt) = P(1 + (4.8/100) * (180/365)) and yeah it's basic algebra to solve for P

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sleek birch
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on the cartesian plane we can never form an equilateral triangle with 3 points with integer co ordinates, but can we form an equilteral triangle with 2 integer co ordinates and the 3rd abitrarily close to an integer?

sleek birch
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like can we form an equilateral triangle w 2 integer co ord vertices and the 3rd infinitely close to an integer?

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i was fooling around in desmos and found some examples that are reasonable close to this but is there a way to rigorously prove this?

grizzled vault
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wdym arbitrarily close to an integer??

sleek birch
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like

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if i give u some very small number

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like 0.0000000000000000001

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is it possible to find an equilateral triangle w 2 integer co ordinates and a third this close to an integer

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i got some examples for 0.1 0.001 by brute forcing

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Can you help me in 11?

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severe stone
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I tried to use LH and the definition of the derative but yet it is wrong

flat whale
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definition of derivative would be easiest yes

severe stone
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they say f(x)=sinx²

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that is wrong right?

flat whale
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nope

severe stone
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HUH

flat whale
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do you know the limit definition of derivative at a point?

severe stone
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lim x->a (f(x)-f(a))/(x-a) = f'(a)?

flat whale
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yes

flat whale
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oh i see

severe stone
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f(0)=sin(9)

flat whale
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yes f(x) should be sin[(3+x)^2]

severe stone
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aaah okay so the answer would be 2 sin(3)cos(3)?

hushed pewter
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!show

vocal sleetBOT
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Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.

flat whale
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,w lim x to 0 (sin((x+3)^2) - sin(9))/x

flat whale
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,calc 6cos(9)

twin meteorBOT
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Result:

-5.4667815713081
severe stone
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damn i got it wrong

flat whale
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,calc 2sin(3)cos(3)

twin meteorBOT
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Result:

-0.27941549819893
flat whale
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messed up chain rule somewhere i think

severe stone
flat whale
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mistake here

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write $\sin((x+3)^2) = \sin(g(x))$, $g(x) = (x+3)^2$ and use chain rule to find the derivative

twin meteorBOT
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riemann

severe stone
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oh so it would be f'(x)= cos((x+3)²) *2(x+3)

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how do i know if it is sin((x+3)²) and when it is (sin(x+3))²?

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cuz now i could have guessed it because of the sin(9) which is sin(3²) but what if i couldnt see that

flat whale
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$\sin^2(3+x) = (\sin(3+x))^2$

twin meteorBOT
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riemann

flat whale
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it's quite confusing unfortunately

severe stone
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ooooh thank you did not know that

severe stone
silk osprey
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i mean it is definitely true that you can interpret this as f’(0) for f(x) = sin(3+x)^2 but it may be easier to see it as f’(3) for sin(x^2)

flat whale
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yea that's even worse

silk osprey
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since it follows directly from the definition of derivative

severe stone
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Riemann learning from someone else 👀

silk osprey
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his way is correct

flat whale
severe stone
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but wouldnt i need to substitute first

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x+3=u ?

silk osprey
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no

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x is really h here

severe stone
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x=0 -> u=3?

flat whale
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you still need to do chain rule either way

silk osprey
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in definition of derivative

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you still get 6cos(9)

severe stone
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ye true

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damn

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math so fun 💀

silk osprey
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2xcos(x^2) vs 2(x+3)cos(x+3)^2

severe stone
silk osprey
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$f’(\mathcolor{red}{x}) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(\mathcolor{red}{x}+h) - f(\mathcolor{red}{x})}{h}$

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x = 3

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that’s how i see it

severe stone
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aaah ye

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smart

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One day i will see all that stuff too

flat whale
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textbf x hmmcat

silk osprey
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to put emphasis

flat whale
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that's quite the dedication

silk osprey
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no vectors lol

severe stone
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After this subject i will get vector calculus

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i am definitely cooked :(

silk osprey
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nah

severe stone
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Matrix wasnt great

silk osprey
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oh wait i can use colors right

severe stone
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what is the difference between an absolute maximum and local maximum? Local is at the end of the domain?

silk osprey
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$\mathcolor{red}{x}$

twin meteorBOT
silk osprey
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ohhh

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i’ll do that instead

severe stone
twin meteorBOT
silk osprey
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much better

severe stone
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okay imma close it, thank you guys :)

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flat whale
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red 👀

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i personally like orange

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$f’(\mathcolor{orange}{x}) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(\mathcolor{green}{x}+h) - f(\mathcolor{blue}{x})}{h}$

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riemann

flat whale
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that blue is bad

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Each natural number m < 100 is assigned a natural number F(m), also less than 100. The sequence a_ 1 = 1, a _(k+1) = F(a_k) is constructed. Prove that there is a number n < 100 for which a_n = a_2n.

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so a_k = F(F(......F(1))) k-1 times

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I’m dealing with this question. I need help understanding the concept/ checking if I’m right

What I’ve understood is that with sigma notations you have to take the lower limit and add anything between that and the upper limit( as in if 1 is lower limit and 3 is upper, I’d also have to include 2)

So what I need help understanding is would I go about this question like this

1^1/1 + 2^1/2+ 3^1/3

Or is k is supposed to stay 1 at all times?

gaunt sparrow
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The k=1 at the bottom of the summation symbol tells you two things.

  1. the variable that changes across iterations is k
  2. the first iteration starts at 1.

Every iteration, this variable is incremented by 1 (add 1 to it).

Then the number at the top tells you when you stop.

Then it's just a matter of finding out which of the summand (what's after the summation symbol) is a general expression for the sum you're trying to express.

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You can usually spot the pattern just looking at what you've written down already, i.e.
1^1/1 + 2^1/2+ 3^1/3

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Which of the expressions do you think fits?

light geode
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gaunt sparrow
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Yes

light geode
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Appreciate the help

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light geode
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Ok I’m completely lost here.

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Which equation do I use

grizzled vault
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anything u like

hazy spindle
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I'd say 10, just using intuition and basic equations (420 = n(-3+87)/2 gets you n=10). Idk tho, forgot HS maths

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I'd love it if somebody could help me with my sht :d

grizzled vault
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a_n = a_1 + (n - 1) d which gives you 87 = -3 + (n-1)d

S_n = n/2 (-3 + 87) = 420

and then you have a simultaneous to solve

dark kiln
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84 is double the average
so 42 is average, so there's 10 terms

light geode
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It’s 7😭😭

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Idk how

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I’ve tried every single equation

grizzled vault
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d is 10

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and a = -3

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-3 + 10 =7

dark kiln
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so it goes +90 in 9 steps

light geode
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And see what I get

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Ty

grizzled vault
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,w 87 = -3 + (n-1)d and n/2 (-3 + 87) =420

grizzled vault
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should get that for values of n and d

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light geode
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a_n and n are both different?

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Ok I got 7

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I was doing 87/2 the whole time 😭

grizzled vault
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a_n means the nth term

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n means the number of terms

light geode
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Ohhh damn

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Well ty for clarifying

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chilly onyx
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for a functional depending on multiple functions such as $ (A_{\nu}) $

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MARCEL serker
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chilly onyx
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and $ T_nu $, with the lagrangian

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i tried to extremalize this directly without taking the variation separately
v

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and i said that we find the corresponding euler lagrange equations :

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but here :

it says that you have to take the variation separately

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i was wondering if i wrote bullshit or it is equivalent

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zinc blaze
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can someone help me with this?

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sharp lynx
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,rccw

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sharp lynx
zinc blaze
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I just dont know how to do this problem

sharp lynx
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have you been introduced to the pythagorean theorem?

zinc blaze
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yes

sharp lynx
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what does it say?

zinc blaze
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huh?

sharp lynx
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what is the pythagorean theorem?

zinc blaze
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oh a^2+b^2=c^2

sharp lynx
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and a,b,c are what exactly?

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i would appreciate fuller sentences

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i dont remember exactly

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then you should should go back and take a closer look at the theorem

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i know what they are i just dont know how to explain it

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then you don't know what they are

zinc blaze
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you're asking where a b and c go right?

sharp lynx
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i'm not asking where anything goes, i'm asking what they represent

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"a^2 + b^2 = c^2" with no further context is just a plain old equation. We need to know what a,b,c actually are for it to have meaning

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(and for you to be able to use it for your question)

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i never learnt that, i just learnt the equation and how to solve it

sharp lynx
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how was the pythagorean theorem presented to you?

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is it in a textbook? Its own worksheet? Written notes?

zinc blaze
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written notes and the teacher just saying how it works

sharp lynx
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please show me these notes

zinc blaze
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I learnt this a year ago, so i dont have the notes with me, i just memorized the equation

sharp lynx
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well that's not good

zinc blaze
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i never watch math videos because i never pick up on what they teach, sorry

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well that's a shame. Good luck then

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So an and b are essentially legs of a 90 degree triangle….

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C=is the hypotenuse

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Or longest side

zinc blaze
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oh ok

sacred hinge
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You can also think of c

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As the diagonal to 90 degree

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And I will clarify

sacred hinge
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The variables are wrong

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Well not wrong per say

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Pythag thereom is essentially just a general thereom

zinc blaze
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ok

sacred hinge
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So for the triangle on the left.

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A and b are the legs

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Which means they sit

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Um sort of like this

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Notice how they are on opposite sides of the 90 degree angle

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Like the 90 degree angle is in between the a and b

zinc blaze
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yeah i see that

sacred hinge
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Where a and b can be anything, just not a negative number

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C

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As you can see is the length of c is diagonal to the 90 degree

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Utilizing this previous knowledge

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We can just do

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ok

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A=5.5 b=3.1

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So pythag thereom states

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5.5^2+3.1^2=c^2

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So first we can solve the a^2+b^2 portion

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5.5^2+3.1^2=39.86

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So we have 39.86=c^2

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Honestly a and b can be either or

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Just remember that the 90 degree angle must be in between a and b

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sacred hinge
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Yes

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Well approximately

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So for your problem

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the hypotynse is equal to approximately 6.3

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So a=6.3

zinc blaze
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and then for the second triangle you would do c^2-b^2=a^2?

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I mean yes that’s just a way of manipulating the function to solve one of the leg value

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5.5^2-2.7^2=22.96

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22.96=a^2

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and then that is

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4.8

sacred hinge
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22.96^1/2

zinc blaze
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huh?

sacred hinge
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4.79

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Or 4.8

zinc blaze
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or yeah

sacred hinge
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N^1/2 is the same thing as sqrt n

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oh ok

sacred hinge
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Does this clear up any confusion with using the pythag thereom

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yes thank you

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No problem

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i do have 2 more problems

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but they're something different i think

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What are they?

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they're about complimentary angles

sacred hinge
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Complimentary =90 degrees

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ok

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so, notice how AD and EG are perpendicular

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Which means you can write it as

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Boxes represent 90 degrees

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ok

sacred hinge
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Complementary is the sum of angles that equal 90 degrees

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I would focus on the upper quadrant though

sacred hinge
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i see it

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So

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each quadrant is 90 degrees

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and on the frist and second one

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you could figure out the other degree

sacred hinge
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Yes!

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Precisely

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So to find the other

zinc blaze
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the 4th one would obviosuly be 90

sacred hinge
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You would subtract 90 degrees from the known angle

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but the 3rd one

sacred hinge
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They just vertical angles

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Or

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ohhh

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so then the 3rd one would be 40 and 50 degrees as well

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?

sacred hinge
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Mhm

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At least what I can tell

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oh ok! thank you!

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i think i can do the other one on my own

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Oh okay!

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Good luck bro

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Geometry gets fun

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thanks once again

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You’ll be able to be really creative

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special triangles

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might be a really dumb question, but how can X = 280 if the domain is 180<x<270

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i checked the key

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yeah that doesn't seem right

latent marten
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or 100% its off

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this is practice diploma questions so i doubt its wrong, i think their taken straight from real diplomas

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i don't see how reference angles would make it right

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well it's always possible that i'm missing something

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Idk how to properly solve it, i got -60degrees lol

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i checked the key and got confused

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CAST rule applys?

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if sin is negative, quadrant 3 and 4

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@woeful igloo U know how to solve this?

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heres my work its kind of shit lol

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ignore the bottom half, thats a diff question

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Yea, 240deg should be x-40.

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I guess what they meant to say was x-40 should be in 3rd Quadrant

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Coz otherwise, there is also a solution in 4th quadrant

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Wdym?

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there are no solutions as written

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Maybe they edited the question later on as an afterthought and forgot to fix the rest of it

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Like the reference angle is in 3rd quadrant only?

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Ahh ok

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ill forget that one

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this one, i got really close answer but C is throwing me off

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I got 122, answer is 121

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Not sure why it will be 1npi

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since if im not wrong, the only NPV is 0,1

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sinx = 1, and cosx = 0

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actually nv

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I think ,if cosx = X value, x = 0 at 90deg and 180deg right

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idk trig like this hurts my brain

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Ye i think thats right, im just confused cuz cosx = 0, cos is = 0 at 0,1 and 0,-1, but inverse cos of 0 = 0, 1 only

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Just need clarification on my understanding from someone

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From cost/(sint - 1) = … I would move sint - 1 over to the other side

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Prove or disprove: if lim(f(x))²=1 in x0 then lim f(x) = -1 or lim f(x) = 1 in x0?

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I did the following : we get lim(f(x)f(x)) = lim f(x) * lim f(x) = 1 so it has to be either 1 or -1

left bobcat
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seems ok to me

hot gust
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So it's true? 🤔

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Also, prove of disprove: lim f(x)² = 1 in x0, so there's always a neighborhood around x0 such that for every x in that neighborhood, f(x) is not equal to 0

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1/2 🤔

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Nvm

hot gust
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It's times haha

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I am sniped

hot gust
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What's a counterexample?

oak magnet
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You both are messager xd

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Consider the function that is -1 for all x<=0 and 1 for all x >0. Limit doesnt exist at 0, but lim f(x)^2=1 at 0

hot gust
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Got it

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Oh wait

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I think it's still true

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It would be true without the lim for sure imo

signal pendant
# hot gust I think it's still true

That is indeed true, since for any eps>0, there is a neighbourhood around x0 where |f(x)^2 -1| < eps for all x in neighbourhood, so f(x) is either in (1-sqrt(eps), 1+sqrt(eps)) or (-1-sqrt(eps),-1+sqrt(eps)) for all x in neughbourhood

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Taking eps =1/2 we get such a neighbourhood where f does not become 0 anywhere

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Got it. Thanks a lot

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I need help solving when a balloon becomes empty. Its volume is 5000cm^3 and the speed it decreases at can be solved with the formula (20-0.01x) cm^3/s

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nvm lol

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its the time they want i think

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A pic of Q would help :)

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no pic just text in a foreign language and i gave the relevant info volume is 5000cm^3 it is leaking according to this formula (20-0.01x) cm^3/s at then the question is how long before the balloon is empty?

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So I'm assuming the time is represented by variable "x"

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So that your equation looks something like; $-\dv{V}{x} = (20 - 0.01x)$

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I think so since we have a speed which it decreases and a volume

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can you solve it? you just need to integrate both sides, w.r.t. dx

honest light
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wait so its like -5000x = (20x-0.01* x^2/2

mental egret
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...

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Let's do this step by step pls? blobcry

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what do you get on integrating this?

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0 ≤ x ≤ t

honest light
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idk how the way you written it

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you said both sides but is not only one sided made to an intregraal?

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do you mean both sides should be turned into primatives or just one side

mental egret
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It'd be better to show you what I mean

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$- [V(x)]_0^t = \left[20x - 0.01 \cdot \frac{x^2}{2}\right]_0^t$

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did you get it?

honest light
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so you turn both sides into primative functions within those brackets for intregrals?

mental egret
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that is how seperable differential equations are solved ✅
not to mention, if you do an operation on one side of the equality, you MUST do it on the other side as well

honest light
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so the primative of the volume would be 5000x?

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or what is this part or is uit just refering to the decrease function as a whole

mental egret
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this is me writing the "rate of decrease of Volume" [hence, the -ve sign]

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this is what we get after integrating on both sides

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Now, we put the boundary conditions, at time "t" the volume, as a function of time is V(t), and at time t = 0, the volume initially was 5000 cm^3

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So the LHS is basically, -[V(t) - 5000]

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and the RHS is 20t - 0.005t²

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So your volume function at time "t", would just be V(t) = 0.005t² - 20t + 5000

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@honest lightDid you get this?

honest light
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yeah

mental egret
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can solve the quadratic to get the time when V(t) = 0

honest light
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ah I see now why this didn't work. -0.005t^2 +20t-5000=0

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help please

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you can try to invoke $A = \frac 12 ab \sin(C)$

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okay so

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which place do I do that for

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cos all the options are confusing me

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that rule is forrr finding the area i think?

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u could try finding angle Q

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finding Q gives you P for free

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the sine rule?

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okay so uhh

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why am I worng?

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o((x+1)^3) doesn't mean (x+1)^3

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it can tho right?

half imp
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no

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o means strictly asympotically smaller

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(x+1)^3 is in O((x+1)^3) but not o((x+1)^3)

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in any case the derivative is wrong

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you have 3x^2 + 4x + x instead of 3x^2 + 4x + 1

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if something is o((x+1)^3) as x->-1 then the first 3 derivatives will be 0 at x=-1

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half imp
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(x+1)^4

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(x+1)^(10/3)

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So I can just put any of these and get the right answer?

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the exponent has to be bigger than 3 right?

half imp
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yes

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something like sin(x+1)^4 also works

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half imp
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sin^2(x+1) - sin(x+1)tan(x+1) works i think?

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(cos(x+1)-1)^2 works

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etc

half imp
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0 is o((x+1)^3)

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but notably

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you can obtain the values of the first 3 derivatives by ignoring it specifically

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which in this case is sufficient

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but note that they could put something in there which is sometimes true and sometimes false depending on what the extra asymptotic function is and in that case you couldn't just take one example

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like imagine they put f(0) = 0 as a possibility

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this is true when your extra function is 0 but not true if it's something like (x+1)^4

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I see

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anyway I solved it now

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thx for the help

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Is my approach to part a correct

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A is the matrix which is given in the defination

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I'm unsure as to how i can solve this problem. I was able to complete another one with a square root in the denominator but this one beats me...

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direct substituting ofc doesn't work, it leads to 0/0 which is undefined

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Whenever there are roots mixed with addition/subtraction, think conjugate

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the x is approaching a -1 btw, it's hard to see in the pic

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You multiply it by the conjugate of the part with the root

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Yeah that

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Here the conjugate of $\sqrt{x^2+8} - 3$ is $\sqrt{x^2+8} + 3$

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Azyrashacorki

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Right. So i multiply x+1 with that?

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I wrote it down but im not really sure how i'd continue from there

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im thinking the conjugate would cancel out with the original so i'd be left with sqrt x^2+8 +3/x+1?

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You multiply the numerator and denominator by the conjugate

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So that you effectively multiply by 1

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Then the numerator is a difference of squares

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The denominator is a bit messier, but don't expand it yet since it should cancel

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is this not right

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That's what i tried doing

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,rot

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here i'll just send it rotated

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huh that's different from what i was told to do earlier

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let me simplify it for you

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Goëtia

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Better @buoyant star ?

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Sure but now i'm just confused as to how you got that end result. where did x^2-1 come from?

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i mean yeah but how did you get there? What was multiplied?

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the numerators

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yes but where did -1 come from? I'd get is -3 and +3 got canceled out but i have no clue what you did

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what? hold on give me a min

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wait how do you even multiply when the numbers are in roots?

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I'm not getting any of this

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Goëtia

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Okay i see now

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Oh i think i got it

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Thank you

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np

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Can someone solve 7A I don’t get how they get 1/2

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1/2 isn't the solution to 7A

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Let $C_0(X)$ be the space of all continuous functions that tend to $0$ at infinity. It is claimed this space coincides with the space of all continuous, bounded functions $C_b(X)$ when $X$ is compact. I don't see why.

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So let me understand this

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$C$ is a function from a space $X$ to $\mathbb{R}$

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Arnavutköy

rough patrol
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what is "infinity" then?

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If the domain was the number line this would be obvious

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i am almost certain that some other properties of X were given beforehand

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is X a subset of R^n?

halcyon sluice
cobalt crypt
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E is X?

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will edit

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okay so that's what "tend to 0 at infinity" means in this context

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yes

cobalt crypt
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but you can see that taking K = X here works always when X is compact

halcyon sluice
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ahh yes, indeed catthumbsup

cobalt crypt
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essentially compact sets have no points that go off to infinity

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so the tending to 0 condition is null

halcyon sluice
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it's not a very precise statement

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but say for example compact subsets of R^n are always bounded

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there are no points that are arbitrarily far from others

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compact metric spaces are also bounded

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but compact is a bit stronger than bounded

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ok 👍

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of course, continuous images of compact things are compact so any function defined on compact X must be bounded

halcyon sluice
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yeah

cobalt crypt
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so you could in fact say that f tends to 0 at infinity

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because it is vacuously true

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ah, yes, makes sense

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thank you happy

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👍

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Explain this one please

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,rccw

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Write the general Equation of a normal and compare it with the given equation

thick ocean
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I don't understand

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do you know the general equation of a normal?

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In terms of parametric

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No

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Slope of tangent to parabola at any point (h, k) is 2a/k
So, for normal, the slope becomes -k/2a. Now y = mx + c is normal => m = -k/2a or k = -2am so h = am²

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So the point (am², -2am) satisfies the line y = mx + c

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Plug values to get c

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@thick ocean did u get the solution

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ill solve

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@thick ocean do u want the soln

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yall wgat do i even do

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what does rate of change mean to you?

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erm the rate of change

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the ratio

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like how much they change when 1 goes 2 to

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idk how to put it into words

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but

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the only part i really need help on is

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f(x) = 3^x

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and g(x) = 3x

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guys

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i have a hard time solving this:

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i dont know the asnwer to any of these

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beside e

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no

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do you know what a limit is?

calm reef
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i dont understand the negative and positive signs above the numbers in the limit

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ok, have you attempted to learn about those?

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those are called left-side and right-side limits

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<@&286206848099549185> let's say there are two circles with their centers A1 and A2 and their radii are equal to r1 and r2 ,let n be the distance between the centers of the two circles and n<r1+r2. Is there a way to find how much is the area that is formed when the two circles are overlapping ?

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I have a cursed way, i got a similar problem a few months ago.

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basically:

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Calculate the points of intersection between the two circles

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Connect those two

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Using the points of intersection, create a sector of each circle, considereding the angles for both

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From each sector, substract the triangle formed between the points of intersection, and the center of each circle

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and the "curved sections" remaining will be the overlap.

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oh, i sincerely hoped there was a simpler method

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good then

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originally i used integrals, using the crossing section as the x-axis

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bad idea

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So it is possible to get a formula for this?

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yeah. it wont be pretty tho

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mostly cause it needs you to calculate the crossing points

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which calls for linear (vectorial) algebra-

sturdy root
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But it can also be done geometrically?

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im trying to come up with some somewhat easy geometric solution for the crossing points

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also, if for some reason, one circle "eats" the other, then the area is equal to the smaller circle area

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ngl, not findin any lead on that. can we just pretend that we know the intersection points by solving a non-linear system equation?

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Hello guys, need help with integration. Could anyone help me finding mistake in my solution?

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