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inner osprey
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precisely

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and that's the answer to your question

atomic pine
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you alr have that since m^2-n^2 is positive.

kind light
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833 4913

inner osprey
inner osprey
rare swift
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2023 ² = 7× 17²
So m+n = 119
m- n = 17
I am getting m = 68

atomic pine
rare swift
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Nvm I fcked up my calculations as usual

kind light
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alr ty yaal

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rare swift
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Just a guess tbhwut

atomic pine
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2023^2-0^2=2023^2 but n=0

rare swift
kind light
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everybody going gangsta until $n\in\mathbb{I}$

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Skill_Issue

atomic pine
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whats mathbb I

rare swift
kind light
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is it not imaginary

atomic pine
kind light
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huh

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is it C? idrk

atomic pine
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i think u can just do $$i\mathbb R$$ lol

twin meteorBOT
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qwertytrewq

atomic pine
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if what u r referring to imaginary is what i think it is

kind light
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doesent look nice :(

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$:\mathbb{m}$

twin meteorBOT
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Skill_Issue

civic otter
atomic pine
kind light
twin meteorBOT
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Skill_Issue

kind light
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err

atomic pine
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we use $\mathrm{Im}(x)$ to denote the imaginery part of $x$ but thats kinda different

civic otter
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The same way as the even numbers are $2\mathbb{Z}$

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qwertytrewq

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Alberto Z.

civic otter
kind light
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ok

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livid grotto
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The limit of a function?

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Yeah that's the limit of a function, you'll need to be a little more specific on what you need to know

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Sorry?

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That's a bit like asking what the uses of addition are

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Thou art requesting information of a personal persuasion, which contradicts the rules of this institution

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<@&268886789983436800> trolling

dense cedar
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🤣

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Bro just turned Shakespeare

mild flower
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what...

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thy

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(compare my)

dense cedar
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What thee conceiveth as regular text may seemeth humeth'rous to oth'rs. P'rspectives is what matt'rs

worthy citrus
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Thou shalt ask a specific question

dense cedar
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I appreciate thee

mild flower
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thee - me
thy - my
thou - i

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anyway yes do you have a specific question?

dense cedar
mild flower
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lim isn't really a function on its own and explaining how limits work is kind of about half of a semester's worth of material

dense cedar
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7

mild flower
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mmk well if you have a class called pre calculus then that will include it

kind light
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woo same

jagged cargo
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when one doth consider a function, there may come a time when the value of the function draweth nearer to a number

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,w plot 1/x

jagged cargo
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verify, shall thou substituteth x = infinity, thou yield 0

dense cedar
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Let's consider a case , suppose you drop a ball from a specific height h , then after first drop it rises to a height half of the initial. This pattern continues

jagged cargo
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in simple words, if thou wishest to find the limit of a function, thou shalt observe the value that the function approacheth

dense cedar
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If n tends to infinity , what will be the height after n'th drop ?

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Nah

kind light
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it should be 1/8, and thats summation

dense cedar
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It's (1/2)^n

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As n approaches infinity

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The denominator gets quite high

kind light
dense cedar
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It's a number , which is like 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001

kind light
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thats $\sum^{\infty}_{m=1}(\frac{1}{2})^n$

dense cedar
twin meteorBOT
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Skill_Issue

dense cedar
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You just applied the limit here

twin meteorBOT
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Skill_Issue

dense cedar
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Since n tends to infinity our , height after n'th drop is 0

kind light
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ok 😭

dense cedar
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w > cube root of unity ?

kind light
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heres your epsilon-delta limit definition

dense cedar
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What omega do you refer to here ?

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Which context of mathematics

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Ah ok

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atomic pine
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thats not quite number theory KEK also cardinality (alephs) and ordinals (omegas) are somewhat different.

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small python
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I'm not able to understand the rewritten equations in the explanation.

small python
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How does it turn into (50/8)^2 ?

gentle thicket
dense cedar
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Y = 4x²-50x +126
Or y-126 = 4x(x-50/4)

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So Max value at (50/4,126)

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You can also use calculus

small python
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ok thanks

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Can you give me a hint for part c)?

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I have the answer right below, but here looking for a hint.

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lavish nebula
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confused about d, any help?

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gentle thicket
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gentle thicket
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kk

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lemme see

gentle thicket
lavish nebula
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yes

gentle thicket
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do you agree that equation of tangent will be linear?

lavish nebula
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yes tangents are linear

gentle thicket
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so tell me the general form for the equation of a straight line

lavish nebula
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y = mx + b

gentle thicket
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perfect

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but let's talk about slope intercept form

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which is (y-y_0) = m(x-x_0)

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where y_0 and x_0 are y and x intercepts respectively

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now we know the value of x_0

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which is 4
since we have to form an equation with intercept of x=4

lavish nebula
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right

gentle thicket
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so now the remaining values are of y_0 and m

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now y_0 will be the y intercept when x_0 is plugged into h(x)

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got it?

lavish nebula
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so y_0 is 23

gentle thicket
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yup

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now all we want is the value of slope at x=4

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you got any idea how to find it?

lavish nebula
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(y-23) = m(x-4) and you plug in y and x values? Don’t think i’ve ever used a slope intercept form so idk

gentle thicket
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but we want to find the value of slope too

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see

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you know what derivative is?

lavish nebula
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yes

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do you need to find the second derivative of h? fuck i hate back to school hw i learnt this like 6 months ago

gentle thicket
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only first derivative is fine here

lavish nebula
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can you remind me how derivatives relate to tangents of a curve

gentle thicket
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see derivative is nothing but slope of the curve right?

lavish nebula
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just for context

gentle thicket
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being the slope of the curve

lavish nebula
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right

gentle thicket
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so we want slope at x=4

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of the tangent on h

lavish nebula
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so it’s just 12x - 18

gentle thicket
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yeah

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exactly

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that's the general equation of the slope at any point on the curve of h

lavish nebula
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so you plug 4 into the x of the derivative

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is that true

gentle thicket
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yeah

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so we would get value of slope at x=4

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which will be m

lavish nebula
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and what does this number represent, is it just the gradient?

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right

gentle thicket
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it is same thing

lavish nebula
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30 is the m value, we have x0 and y0

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y - 23 = 30 (x - 4)

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so y = 30x - 120 -23 ?

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would that be the equation of the tangent

gentle thicket
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but 23 with plus sign

lavish nebula
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lol

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fuck

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4 hours of math mybad

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ty for the help love you🙏

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near hearth
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what exactly is a "combinatorial proof"? (expanding out would imply an "algebraic proof" perhaps?)

peak matrix
near hearth
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ok thank you will give it a shot

peak matrix
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np

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in case you needed a hint, lmk

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velvet zephyr
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huh

placid wren
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i forgot to add 1 to a term in the series

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rare swift
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What does Taylor theorem have to do with Lagranges mean value theorem

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woeful igloo
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LMVT is baby version of Taylor series

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while LMVT is not generalized and only specifies the existance of at least a singular value c that satisfies the formula, taylors series, by keeping the remainder function vague enough, applies all over the region in the neighbourhood of a point x

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so, if you reduce the difference a,b in LMVT to be small enough, you land in h-neighbourhood of the point x. At that point, you can approximate taylor series expansion to LMVT by capping the remainder function to first order

rare swift
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I don't understand how is the Taylor theorem the genralized version of lmvt when both of them do diff things lmvt says that for f(x) in interval (a,b) satisfying all the conditions there exists a point c for which f'(c) will have the same slope as the cord ab
But Taylor theorem approximates a function near some value how are these 2 related

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Also I'm dumb so can u explain using some examples wut

woeful igloo
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LMVT merely guarentees the existance of a single such point within (a,b)

woeful igloo
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yeah

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for the sake of the argument, lets go with one of such possible points

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so, for a point small distance dx away from c, the function is not going to be satisfying LMVT

woeful igloo
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so, if we reduce the interval (a,b) to a very small region around a, you can write b as b = a + h

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so interval becomes (a, a+h)

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Now, if you use taylor series on this interval, you get:
f(a+h) = f(a) + h f'(a) + ...

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now lets say all the higher order terms are pretty small

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so, you can rearrange this to:
f(a+h) - f(a) / ((a+h) - a) = f'(a)

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thats LMVT

rare swift
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wut wait right
I GET IT

rare swift
woeful igloo
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No, by LMVT, there is at least one such point

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but taylors series manipulats it by adding a remainder function

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so, for a small enough error, the single point expands to a small set of points

rare swift
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But we clearly assumed the higher order derivaties to be small

woeful igloo
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Yes

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otherwise there would be an exactly single point

rare swift
woeful igloo
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By inducing this error, we can trace back to LMVT, because LMVT only tells us one point exists, but not about the specific location of this point

rare swift
rare swift
woeful igloo
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yes, and as a penalty for generalizing, we dont get an exact function but a remainder that goes on

woeful igloo
rare swift
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Correct me if I'm wrong
In lmvt we find one point c such that the slope of function at the point is equal to the slope of chord
In Taylor series expansion we find a function such that the function matches the slope of our original function at all points by doing this we induce a error which is of the remainder

woeful igloo
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the sum of taylors series terms can be taken as a convergent series. Each higher order of derivative gets you closer to the answer

woeful igloo
rare swift
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One last question
Can we prove taylors theorem using lmvt

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@woeful igloo

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Wait nvm I get it we can catthumbsup

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Thanks alot
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nocturne badger
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How did they distribute x(x-1)?

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outer warren
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to each term inside

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a common factor will cancel for each fraction/term

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granite dragon
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hey I'm stuck with a trigonometry question. find the 4th root of a complex number/polar form. (I have no idea what the topic of the question is)

granite dragon
gusty karma
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do you know $e^{i\theta}$

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

granite dragon
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what is that

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I know there's a form for this

gusty karma
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Euler's formula, named after Leonhard Euler, is a mathematical formula in complex analysis that establishes the fundamental relationship between the trigonometric functions and the complex exponential function. Euler's formula states that, for any real number x, one has

      e
      
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granite dragon
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r^1/2(cos(theta/h+2pik/s)+isin(theta/n+2pik/n))

gusty karma
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thats really all there is to the problem lol

granite dragon
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there's an explanation to the question

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and they give me a formula

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let me send you

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but I still get it wrong lol

gusty karma
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it's a lot easier through euler's formula lol

granite dragon
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how do I get r^(1/4) to sqrt(2)

gusty karma
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because the fourth root of 4 is swrt2

granite dragon
gusty karma
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sqrt2

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$4^{\frac{1}{4}} = \sqrt{2}$

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

granite dragon
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well I got it in decimals on the calc

gusty karma
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sqrt of 4 is 2, sqrt 2 is sqrt 2?

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i don't get what you're missing

granite dragon
granite dragon
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thanks

gusty karma
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it's the expansion of complex number polar form

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polar is (r, angle)

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and it translates into cartesian

granite dragon
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isn't cartesian normal coordinates

gusty karma
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yes

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ex: polar (1, pi) -> cartesian(1cos(pi), 1sin(pi) = (-1, 0)

granite dragon
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hmm, with the imaginary number?

gusty karma
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imaginary number uses euler's formula in polar

granite dragon
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now how do I use euler's formula to solve that question

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can you send me a video tutorial

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idk what to type to search for that

gusty karma
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you translate z into e^i\theta

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just search euler's formula complex number

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something like that

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here the euler's formula expression would be $4e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}}$

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

granite dragon
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😭

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okay

gusty karma
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4 is the radius

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4pi/3 is the angle

granite dragon
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so would it be like this

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I meant -2-2sqrt(3)i

granite dragon
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no it's wrong😭

gusty karma
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what's the fourth root of $4e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}}$

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

granite dragon
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yeah what is it

gusty karma
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i don't know you solve it

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basic exponents

granite dragon
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I tried to write the formula

gusty karma
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solve it in the exponent form

granite dragon
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do you mean cube root of e to the power of 4pi*i

gusty karma
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the problem asks you for the fourth root

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what's the fourth root of the above expression

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exponent rules in case you forgot

granite dragon
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is it sqrt(2)cuberoot(e^(4pii))

gusty karma
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no

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use the power of a power rule

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what is $(4e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}}$

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

granite dragon
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you mean this

gusty karma
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yes what you circled

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but not the thing on the bottom

granite dragon
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done taht form the start

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but then what

gusty karma
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let's walk through this

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$(4e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}} =4^{\frac{1}{4}}*(e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}}$

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

granite dragon
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so it's sqrt(2)*e^(pii/3)

gusty karma
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yes

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do you remember how to expand $e^{\frac{\pi i}{3}}$

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

granite dragon
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cube root of e^(pii)

gusty karma
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no, using euler's formula

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pi/3 is the angle

granite dragon
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idk euler's formula, never learnt it

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oh wait

gusty karma
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i sent a wiki article about it

granite dragon
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yes I'm using that

gusty karma
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$re^{i\theta} = r\cos(\theta) + ri\sin(\theta)$

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

granite dragon
gusty karma
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yes

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and now multiply by sqrt2

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there's no i in the angle though

granite dragon
gusty karma
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look at the form of the equation above

granite dragon
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yuh

gusty karma
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and this answer matches up with the answer found in the solution

granite dragon
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yeah

gusty karma
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👍

granite dragon
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just gotta change sqrt(2)*sqrt(3) to sqrt(6)

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now what if k=1 or k=2

granite dragon
gusty karma
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remember how sine waves and cosine waves repeat

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k is just that

granite dragon
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yea

granite dragon
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what even is k

gusty karma
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k just describes how many times the wave repeats

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it does not effect the outcome really

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ex sin(0) = sin(pi) = sin(2pi)

granite dragon
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okay

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but the answers are different

gusty karma
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oh

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yeah

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because the waves repeat every two pi

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$(4e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}} = (4e^{\frac{10\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}} $

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@twin meteor pls?

granite dragon
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i have no idea how to read that

gusty karma
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the bot is down

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you can add 2 pi to the angle in e^4pi/3

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and it will still be the same

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but the fourth root will be different

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you can add 2 pi infinitely many times

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so e^10pi/3 also works and you can solve with that

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in retrospect this isn't too much simpler with euler's formula

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but it's a nice tool to have

granite dragon
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like this?

gusty karma
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no

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before you take the fourth root

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$(4e^{\frac{10\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}}$

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

gusty karma
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10/3 is two more than 4/3

granite dragon
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oh ok

gusty karma
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and then you can repeat the process

granite dragon
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where do you put k to get 2pi

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oh i'ts kpi/2

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wait no

gusty karma
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$(4e^{(\frac{4}{3}+2k)i\pi})^{\frac{1}{4}}$

granite dragon
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that doesn't make sense

gusty karma
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oops

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it's a little scuffed

granite dragon
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oh

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with the imaginary number?

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ah ok

twin meteorBOT
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loafin around

gusty karma
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yep

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that's gonna be the euler's form expression

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it gets a lot faster once you're used to euler's form

granite dragon
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i got a wrong answer

gusty karma
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show your work

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the angle is 10/3

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divide by 4 its 5/6

granite dragon
gusty karma
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you need to take the fourth root

granite dragon
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did I write the formula wrong

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it is multiplied with sqrt(2)

gusty karma
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take the fourth root of the exponential

granite dragon
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ohhhh

gusty karma
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and you get 5/6 for the angle

granite dragon
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yes yes

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and you get $\sqrt{2}\cos(5\pi/6) ...$

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loafin around

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too lazy to write the rest

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now I got the answer right

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and you repeat this for k = 2

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but you know the pattern and it's just adding 1/2 pi to the resulting angle

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no

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isnt x(y/y) just x(1)

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lets define our function x(y) to be ay^2 + by + c (where a, b and c are positive)

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ya

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there probably is a nicer way to solve it but now just sub in the values in the quadratic, so:
$\ \frac{ay^2 + by + c}{a + b + c} \geq \frac{a + b + c}{\frac{a}{y^2} + \frac{b}{y} + c}$

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i did that..

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oh sorry, next time post your status on the question so we can start from where you reached

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oh ok

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so a + b + c is always going to be a positive number

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hm wait let me try to think of waht to do from here

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i got aby + bcy + ac(y^2)+ (ab+bc)/y + ac/(y^2)

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anonymoushuman

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$\geq$

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thanks

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wait what side of the equation is that?

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2ab+2bc+2ca

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inequality*

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oh perfect thankjs

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i cross multiplied

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oh yea i forgot about that

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$aby + bcy + acy^2 + \frac{(ab+bc)}{y} + \frac{ac}{y^2} \geq 2ab + 2bc + 2ca$

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correct?

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ya

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factor out a y:
$y(ab + bc) + acy^2 + \frac{(ab+bc)}{y} + \frac{ac}{y^2} \geq 2ab + 2bc + 2ca$

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now you can factor out ab+bc

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$acy^2 + (ab+bc)(y + \frac{1}{y}) + \frac{ac}{y^2} \geq 2ab + 2bc + 2ca$

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now its easier to see that you can factor out an ac

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$(ab+bc)(y + \frac{1}{y}) + ac(y^2 + \frac{1}{y^2}) \geq 2ab + 2bc + 2ca$

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hmm now

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oh

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lets factor the second side of the inequality to look more like the first: $\ (ab+bc)(y + \frac{1}{y}) + ac(y^2 + \frac{1}{y^2}) \geq 2(ab + bc) + 2ac$

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now its clear

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ill leave the rest to you

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try to confront the terms of (ab+bc) and of (ac) and notice an inequality that arises

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@stone wadi do you need more help? i can continue if you wish

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could, you wait, a minute?

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yep, no problem

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rearange so that you have everything with ab+bc on one side

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and everything with ac on the other

stone wadi
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$(ab+bc)(y+(1/y)-2) \geq ac(2- (y^2)-(1/y^2))$

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put the $ at the begging and end of the message

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not before and after \geq

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anonymoushuman

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not quite correct

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we are doing (ab+bc)(something) - 2(ab+bc)

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=(ab+bc)(something - 2)

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sorry

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yea your correct

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im dumb

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np

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yea thats correct mb lol

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so: $\ (ab+bc)(y + \frac{1}{y}) - 2(ab + bc)\geq 2ac - ac(y^2 + \frac{1}{y^2})$

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$\ (ab+bc)(-2 + y + \frac{1}{y}))\geq ac(2 - y^2 + \frac{1}{y^2})$

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ya

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im thinking about isolating the y's on one side and the constants on the other

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but im not sure how that will help show that the inequality holds for all a,b,c

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$\frac{top}{bottom}$ remember the ${}$

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anonymoushuman

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in the end

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whered you get that?

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could you maybe circle or screenshot the specific part

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oh

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ohh yea

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the minus multiplies through

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$\ (ab+bc)(-2 + y + \frac{1}{y}))\geq ac(2 - y^2 - \frac{1}{y^2})$

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ya

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im not so sure what we can do here

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well, i gtg, gn

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byee i also gtg to s leep

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$det(5A^{-1}B^t)=det(5Id)det(A^{-1})det(B^t)$

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Roblox game ?

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I thought

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As he just need the answer and that flash blue on top of picture, just as every others questions from roblox game

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how do i change any % out of X to % out of 100%?

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for example i have 77% out of 85%

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how do i change it to X out of 100%

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wouldn't that just be the answer to 77% of 85%

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idk the X

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77/85

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then times 100

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Hi, this is part of my homework that isnt graded however it just didnt make sense for me

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usually we write that as |x|

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hello my name is Rachmir and im studying too be a md and wiskunde (mathmatics)
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,rccw

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would it be possible to translate?

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is a to complete the table?

paper mica
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ye

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its dutch

pale perch
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b saying to find the value of k?

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im just making educated guesses

paper mica
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ye sadly

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im new in this

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what are you struggling with?

paper mica
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b and c

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any idea for b?

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nope

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thats why im here sadly

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what does it exactly say?

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b is saying why can you not choose k to be 1,5

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which is 1.5 in english convention

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aha, id probably need the rest of the context to figure the answer to that

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k is the number of cards sold

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like those you send to family when you go on vacation

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OHH

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the awnser too be is : you cant send half a card so its impossible

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yes

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yup

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W helpers

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TY BOTH OF YOU

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and c is related

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to b

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ok thank you again

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Sorry it is side ways

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What do they mean by explain what ks happening on the graph when x=4

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I plugged x into the graph of y= -1/2 + 2

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And got y=0

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What do I do

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,rccw

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Thanks

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what does this look like visually? I assume it wants you to describe that

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Wouldn’t it look the same as before if we know x=4

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Yeah its saying explicitly what's happneing on the 'graph' so I assume it wants you to plot it and graph it. Draw x and y lines, and then plot your line on it

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make a table with some values and then plot those points in your drawing

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Ok

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Doesn’t that usually mean with words

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Yes

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but i'm saying graphing it will allow you to describe it in words

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Ok

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,rccw

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,rrcw

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So when

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The points are on the x axis

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Are they excluded

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From. The function

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Like this guy put brackets meaning -1 and 3 are included

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I know min and max are always excluded from the function

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So do all positive intervals have parentheses?

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And negative

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tbh, unless the function is going back up to be positive on intervals not plotted in the picture, then i don’t see the error. the previous picture seems to imply that your definition of positive is that f(x) > 0 not f(x) >= 0.

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that might be it

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i might be pretty tired also

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still unresolved>

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unless the answer is asking you to point out that 0 is not negative nor positive

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Im stumped

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it's with parenthesis because x=0 is neither positive nor negative, which is where you went wrong here

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I've got a problem I need to finish tonight that I forgot how to solve over the summer. f(x)=6^3 + 7x^2 - 63 + 20. I need a step by step on how to solve this, because I can't group it, and youtube isn't very helpful.

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what does it mean by "solve"?

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find the roots?

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Yeah

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alright, are you familar with the rational root theorem

viscid delta
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No

red bear
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it says that any rational root of the polynomial will be the ratio of two factors of the first and last coefficients

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so in this case, it will be some ratio a/b where a is factor of 20 and b is a factor of 6

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does that make sense?

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is it just any factor of 20 or six, is it common, greatest?

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it could be any factor

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you have to check all of them

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how do you know which ones are correct?

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you can either plug them into f(x) and check that you get 0, or you can divide f(x) by (x-r) where r is the root, and check that you get 0 remainder

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because by the root factor theorem, if r is a root, then (x-r) is a factor of f(x)

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on the other hand, you can also use the cubic formula since this is a cubic polynomial

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but that's really painful

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right, that's important

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i've tried asking your mom, and she gave me a very nice doubt clearing

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How does one calculate how long x is without a calculator

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Not sure what you mean, the radius is 50 indeed but how do you know its a quarter of a circle

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The answer is 30 so it makes sense but i dont see how

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It just clicked

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but if it's not given, then we cannot determine x...

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Yeah no the side with 10 should have writen next to it that the total is 50

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50-10 = 40

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the orange line is also 50 given that it's part of a circle

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So it becomes x^2 + 40^2 = 50^2

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Makes total sense now

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of course we might also have to assume the x is perpendicular to the radius..

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How should I describe this?

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Partially overlapping circles?

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you can just say something literal like “two circles with different radii that intersect each other”

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if that level of specificity isn’t needed, then “intersecting circles” will suffice

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no it doesn’t, but you can specify that separately if you’d like

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hello

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so

woeful igloo
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z and and its complex conjugate when added together leave you with only the real part

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so a purely real part cant have any complex component

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so you get no z that satisfies the equation

vast shale
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real

woeful igloo
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just leave the graph blank with only the axes marked on it

peak matrix
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you can even write "empty graph" under it, so that its completely clear

empty frigate
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i think "real = complex" is just a bad description

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the graph is the set of points that satisfy the equation, so it's empty if no points satisfy the equation

peak matrix
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and what about it? that's a number, not an equation

woeful igloo
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3x - iy is not even a number by itself, its just a expression in complex numbers

peak matrix
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variable?

empty frigate
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yeah 3x - iy is not a variable

peak matrix
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it would be an expression

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still not equation though

empty frigate
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the graph of an equation is empty if there are no numbers that satisfy the equation

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i don't know what it would mean to graph something that's not an equation

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graph theory is mentioned almost W

empty frigate
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no

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the graph will be empty if no numbers satisfy the equation

peak matrix
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if the left hand side is real, and the right hand side has non-zero imaginary component, then it's empty

empty frigate
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if x has to be a real number, then the graph of this is empty, because no real number x satisfies 2x = 1 + 2i

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the only complex number that satisfies that is x = 1/2 + i, and that's not a real number

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haha

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Im having trouble with finding the formula for this and understanding the question. Anybody could help?

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,rccw

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Sorry for bad image quality my hand wasn't steady

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edgy gulch
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which one

thin valley
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Hmm number 4 first

edgy gulch
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try simplifying those roots first

thin valley
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Then uhh

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8√2

edgy gulch
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k good

thin valley
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Lemme write it real quick

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Alright done

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I couldn't simplify 2√18

edgy gulch
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you can

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18 is 9 * 2

thin valley
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How?

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Oh

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So that means 2*3√2?

edgy gulch
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yes

thin valley
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So I add 8+6 then?

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Idk how to do the division

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well you get 14√2 after adding

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then you have √2 top and bottom, just cancel it

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so you only have to do 14/6

thin valley
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Alright

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Done now number 5 which is the part im most confused

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Can 8√6 be simplified?

edgy gulch
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but look at all the roots first, what number can they all get reduced to

thin valley
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√6 means √2x3

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√2 can't be simplified or made to Integers

edgy gulch
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yep that works

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all of those numbers in those roots can get reduced to 3

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so try to make them all sqrt(3)

thin valley
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Alright

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Could the top roots be 6 and the bottom one be 3?

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Meaning the root at the end will be √2

edgy gulch
thin valley
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How so?

edgy gulch
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and after you simplify it to only one term top and above, you can just cancel the sqrt(3)

thin valley
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Alright but, uhh according to my teacher if the sqrt is 6 and it becomes √2x3 that means it cant be 8•2√3 as the sqrt of 2 is and irrational number

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I'm sorry if I added length to this help

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oh i get what you mean now

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24 is 6 * 4

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so you wanna simplify sqrt(24) to 2sqrt(6)

thin valley
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Yeah

edgy gulch
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yeah thats valid too

thin valley
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Alright

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Ill write that down

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Btw the numbers that get Added are the one not in the roots right?

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Same with subtraction

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Is this correct?

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Root 9 is 3 right?

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So i should remove the √ in √3?

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It should be 2*3 which is 6?

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You said that √9 is 3 ...

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So instead of √9 just write 3, as simple as that

thin valley
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OHHHH I UNDERSTAND NOW

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My brain not functioning

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So the answer should be 7√2 right?

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Tysm now I can get ready for tomorrow's exam

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Alright time to close

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Guys

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How to do 1ai

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To show the radius r of the top side of the cup is 4.5 ?

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pls help with 1 ai

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guys

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how to do 2b

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how to find upper bound

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of that

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pls

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help

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1,3,6,10... whats the 50th term

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# fossil pollen 1,3,6,10... whats the 50th term
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fossil pollen
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i dont know where to begin

vast shale
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ok

fossil pollen
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The common difference are in AP

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Thats what i notice

vast shale
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do you know what a aritmethic progression is

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okay

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good

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what is the common difference

fossil pollen
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2,3,4...

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an-an-1

vast shale
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is the common difference constant?

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no

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ok

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have you ever heard about triangular numbers

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?

fossil pollen
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huh

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not really no

peak matrix
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yes

peak matrix
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cool

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let's analyze it a bit

fossil pollen
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oka

peak matrix
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1, 3, 6, 10

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so the difference between the first 2 is 2 as you said

fossil pollen
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yes

peak matrix
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so we can also write it as

1, 1 + 2, 6, 10

fossil pollen
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Indeed

peak matrix
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then the difference between 2nd and 3rd is 3

fossil pollen
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Oh wait

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sus

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yes

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nth term is sum of n

peak matrix
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so 1, 1 + 2, 1 + 2 + 3

fossil pollen
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!1!1!1!

peak matrix
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sum of first n natural numbers

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im soooo dumb

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Thanks a lot

peak matrix
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which can be found throgh arithmetic series

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np

fossil pollen
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what if it started from some random number instead

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Yeah, I think he already noticed :]

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like say 5,7,10...

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now the differences are 3, 3, ???

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did you mean 5, 7, 11

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2,3,4..

peak matrix
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oh wait

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7-5 = 2

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yeah i cant count lol

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in this case, it's 4 + 1, 4 + 1 + 2, 4 + 1 + 2 + 3...

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sso the sequence is just an = 4 + (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ... n)

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it's same as the 1, 3, 6, 10 ... sequence, just shifted by 4

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so the 50th term would be larger by 4

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oooh just 4 added

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Alrighty thanks a lot

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sin(x) + cos(2x) = 0

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sin(x) = -cos(2x)

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cos(pi/2 - x) = cos(pi - 2x)

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pi/2 - x = pi - 2x + 2pik

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x = pi/2 + 2pik

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sin(x) + cos(2x)

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sin(pi/2) + cos(2(pi/2))

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1 + (-1)

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= 0

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So my only point is (pi/2, 0)

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But the answer sheet says thats wrong? What did I do incorrectly?

mellow void
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from line 3 to 4

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cos is not injective on [0, 2pi]

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Hi flip 🤗

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hellu

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What does injective mean?

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oh sorry, injective (one-to-one) means that equal outputs implies equal inputs

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f is injective if f(x) = f(y) implies x = y

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Ohhhhhhh I think I see what you mean

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pi/2 - x = pi - 2x + 2pik AND pi/2 - x = 2x - pi + 2pik

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right?

mellow void
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yeah, exactly

bleak prawn
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Ok got it. 1 moment I will try solve

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Hmm I got a different answer to what they wanted again

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pi/2 - x = 2x - pi + 2pik

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3pi/2 = x + 2pik

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x = 3pi/2 - 2pik

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so x = pi/2 (which we already had) and x = 3pi/2

mellow void
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you should have a 3x floating around, I think

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Oh oops!

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pi/2 - x = 2x - pi + 2pik
3pi/2 = 3x + 2pik
x = pi/2 - 2pik/3
so x = pi/2 (which we already had) and x = pi/6 and x = -5pi/6 and x = -3pi/2

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Hmm its still not the answers they wanted

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Yeah I realized haha my bad

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I dont understand how they got those 2 values for x?

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they could be just 2pi + the other numbers you got

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unless if they aren't breadthink

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Yeah theyre not... wtf did I do wrong 😂

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Im so confused

mellow void
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there are more than two solutions generated here

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Ohhhhhhh

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I see

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Ok I got the answers I wanted

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Thank you!!

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How solve it?

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And other question. If {an} convergent sequence and bn is positive bounded sequence lim of an * bn = infinity?

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I answered in the test no because if an = n and bn = 1/n the multiplication is constant 1

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Yea

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then yes your answer is fine

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The number of pairs of positive integers (x, y) satisfying the equation
x2 + y2 + 2xy – 2008x – 2008y – 2009 = 0 is ______.

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can any1 help with this question

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ig the ans is 1 but can anyone crosschk if i m wrong can anyone tell me correct ans

spiral turtle
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What pair?

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bcuz sometimes i m getting ans as 2008 somehow

surreal marten
spiral turtle
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You said you're getting 1 pair as the answer

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yep

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What pair did you find?