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you alr have that since m^2-n^2 is positive.
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fair point
sounds about right
2023 ² = 7× 17²
So m+n = 119
m- n = 17
I am getting m = 68
2023^2=7^2 times 17^4
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n cant be 0
everybody going gangsta until $n\in\mathbb{I}$
Skill_Issue
whats mathbb I
I stood by your name
skill issue
is it not imaginary
never used that ever
thats the complex numbers
i think u can just do $$i\mathbb R$$ lol
qwertytrewq
if what u r referring to imaginary is what i think it is
Skill_Issue
But I think it's correct
ull see that a lot often in pure math
$e\mathbb{R}^2$
Skill_Issue
err
we use $\mathrm{Im}(x)$ to denote the imaginery part of $x$ but thats kinda different
The same way as the even numbers are $2\mathbb{Z}$
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The limit of a function?
Yeah that's the limit of a function, you'll need to be a little more specific on what you need to know
Sorry?
That's a bit like asking what the uses of addition are
Thou art requesting information of a personal persuasion, which contradicts the rules of this institution
<@&268886789983436800> trolling
What thee conceiveth as regular text may seemeth humeth'rous to oth'rs. P'rspectives is what matt'rs
Thou shalt ask a specific question
I appreciate thee
F'r thy specific questioneth i shall suggesteth thee to behold at the page mention'd below
https://brilliant.org/wiki/limits-of-functions/
lim isn't really a function on its own and explaining how limits work is kind of about half of a semester's worth of material
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mmk well if you have a class called pre calculus then that will include it
woo same
when one doth consider a function, there may come a time when the value of the function draweth nearer to a number
,w plot 1/x
verify, shall thou substituteth x = infinity, thou yield 0
Let's consider a case , suppose you drop a ball from a specific height h , then after first drop it rises to a height half of the initial. This pattern continues
in simple words, if thou wishest to find the limit of a function, thou shalt observe the value that the function approacheth
it should be 1/8, and thats summation
$\lim_{n\to\infty}(\frac{1}{2})^n$
It's a number , which is like 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001
thats $\sum^{\infty}_{m=1}(\frac{1}{2})^n$
In that case we assume the value of the function to be zero
Skill_Issue
You just applied the limit here
Skill_Issue
Since n tends to infinity our , height after n'th drop is 0
ok 😭
w > cube root of unity ?
heres your epsilon-delta limit definition
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thats not quite number theory
also cardinality (alephs) and ordinals (omegas) are somewhat different.
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I'm not able to understand the rewritten equations in the explanation.
How does it turn into (50/8)^2 ?
they completed square
Y = 4x²-50x +126
Or y-126 = 4x(x-50/4)
So Max value at (50/4,126)
You can also use calculus
ok thanks
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Can you give me a hint for part c)?
I have the answer right below, but here looking for a hint.
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confused about d, any help?
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is it still not solved?
no
okay, so our goal is to find the equation of tangent at x=4 on h(x) right?
yes
do you agree that equation of tangent will be linear?
yes tangents are linear
fr
so tell me the general form for the equation of a straight line
y = mx + b
perfect
but let's talk about slope intercept form
which is (y-y_0) = m(x-x_0)
where y_0 and x_0 are y and x intercepts respectively
now we know the value of x_0
which is 4
since we have to form an equation with intercept of x=4
right
so now the remaining values are of y_0 and m
now y_0 will be the y intercept when x_0 is plugged into h(x)
got it?
so y_0 is 23
yup
now all we want is the value of slope at x=4
you got any idea how to find it?
(y-23) = m(x-4) and you plug in y and x values? Don’t think i’ve ever used a slope intercept form so idk
yeah that's correct
but we want to find the value of slope too
see
you know what derivative is?
yes
do you need to find the second derivative of h? fuck i hate back to school hw i learnt this like 6 months ago
uh i don't think so
only first derivative is fine here
can you remind me how derivatives relate to tangents of a curve
see derivative is nothing but slope of the curve right?
just for context
like that's literally how derivative is defined
being the slope of the curve
right
so it’s just 12x - 18
yeah
exactly
that's the general equation of the slope at any point on the curve of h
yeah slope is the other name of gradient
it is same thing
30 is the m value, we have x0 and y0
y - 23 = 30 (x - 4)
so y = 30x - 120 -23 ?
would that be the equation of the tangent
but 23 with plus sign
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what exactly is a "combinatorial proof"? (expanding out would imply an "algebraic proof" perhaps?)
I suppose that you will have to do some two-way counting. Meaning find some problem, answer to which is both the LHS and RHS
ok thank you will give it a shot
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huh
i forgot to add 1 to a term in the series
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What does Taylor theorem have to do with Lagranges mean value theorem
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LMVT is baby version of Taylor series
while LMVT is not generalized and only specifies the existance of at least a singular value c that satisfies the formula, taylors series, by keeping the remainder function vague enough, applies all over the region in the neighbourhood of a point x
so, if you reduce the difference a,b in LMVT to be small enough, you land in h-neighbourhood of the point x. At that point, you can approximate taylor series expansion to LMVT by capping the remainder function to first order
I don't understand how is the Taylor theorem the genralized version of lmvt when both of them do diff things lmvt says that for f(x) in interval (a,b) satisfying all the conditions there exists a point c for which f'(c) will have the same slope as the cord ab
But Taylor theorem approximates a function near some value how are these 2 related
Also I'm dumb so can u explain using some examples 
LMVT merely guarentees the existance of a single such point within (a,b)
Atleast one point
yeah
for the sake of the argument, lets go with one of such possible points
so, for a point small distance dx away from c, the function is not going to be satisfying LMVT
Yes
so, if we reduce the interval (a,b) to a very small region around a, you can write b as b = a + h
so interval becomes (a, a+h)
Now, if you use taylor series on this interval, you get:
f(a+h) = f(a) + h f'(a) + ...
now lets say all the higher order terms are pretty small
so, you can rearrange this to:
f(a+h) - f(a) / ((a+h) - a) = f'(a)
thats LMVT
wait right
I GET IT
Wait so is lmvt wrong for close intervals
No, by LMVT, there is at least one such point
but taylors series manipulats it by adding a remainder function
so, for a small enough error, the single point expands to a small set of points
But we clearly assumed the higher order derivaties to be small
So there should be some error
By inducing this error, we can trace back to LMVT, because LMVT only tells us one point exists, but not about the specific location of this point
Ohh ok i get it in lmvt we say there exists some point c
But in Taylor series we are doing it for all points regardless the fact if it's c Or a
Where does the error occur
While ignoring the remainder?
yes, and as a penalty for generalizing, we dont get an exact function but a remainder that goes on
at each higher derivative term, you get infinitsimally closer to the actual value of the function at x+h
That n+1 fold integral right?
Which can be represented in lagranges form
Correct me if I'm wrong
In lmvt we find one point c such that the slope of function at the point is equal to the slope of chord
In Taylor series expansion we find a function such that the function matches the slope of our original function at all points by doing this we induce a error which is of the remainder
the sum of taylors series terms can be taken as a convergent series. Each higher order of derivative gets you closer to the answer
we cant 'find' the point in LMVT. LMVT simply guarentees its existence
ok
Ohh yes mb
One last question
Can we prove taylors theorem using lmvt
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Wait nvm I get it we can 
Thanks alot
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How did they distribute x(x-1)?
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hey I'm stuck with a trigonometry question. find the 4th root of a complex number/polar form. (I have no idea what the topic of the question is)
do you know $e^{i\theta}$
loafin around
r^1/2(cos(theta/h+2pik/s)+isin(theta/n+2pik/n))
thats really all there is to the problem lol
there's an explanation to the question
and they give me a formula
let me send you
but I still get it wrong lol
it's a lot easier through euler's formula lol
how do I get r^(1/4) to sqrt(2)
because the fourth root of 4 is swrt2
okay
loafin around
well I got it in decimals on the calc
btw what is that form called? polar form? complex numbers?
it's the expansion of complex number polar form
polar is (r, angle)
and it translates into cartesian
isn't cartesian normal coordinates
hmm, with the imaginary number?
imaginary number uses euler's formula in polar
now how do I use euler's formula to solve that question
can you send me a video tutorial
idk what to type to search for that
you translate z into e^i\theta
just search euler's formula complex number
something like that
here the euler's formula expression would be $4e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}}$
loafin around
what's the fourth root of $4e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}}$
loafin around
yeah what is it
I tried to write the formula
solve it in the exponent form
do you mean cube root of e to the power of 4pi*i
the problem asks you for the fourth root
what's the fourth root of the above expression
exponent rules in case you forgot
is it sqrt(2)cuberoot(e^(4pii))
loafin around
let's walk through this
$(4e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}} =4^{\frac{1}{4}}*(e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}}$
loafin around
so it's sqrt(2)*e^(pii/3)
loafin around
cube root of e^(pii)
i sent a wiki article about it
yes I'm using that
$re^{i\theta} = r\cos(\theta) + ri\sin(\theta)$
loafin around
oh really
look at the form of the equation above
yuh
and this answer matches up with the answer found in the solution
👍
thank you
yea
k just describes how many times the wave repeats
it does not effect the outcome really
ex sin(0) = sin(pi) = sin(2pi)
oh
yeah
because the waves repeat every two pi
$(4e^{\frac{4\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}} = (4e^{\frac{10\pi i}{3}})^{\frac{1}{4}} $
@twin meteor pls?
i have no idea how to read that
the bot is down
you can add 2 pi to the angle in e^4pi/3
and it will still be the same
but the fourth root will be different
you can add 2 pi infinitely many times
so e^10pi/3 also works and you can solve with that
in retrospect this isn't too much simpler with euler's formula
but it's a nice tool to have
loafin around
10/3 is two more than 4/3
oh ok
and then you can repeat the process
$(4e^{(\frac{4}{3}+2k)i\pi})^{\frac{1}{4}}$
that doesn't make sense
loafin around
yep
that's gonna be the euler's form expression
it gets a lot faster once you're used to euler's form
i got a wrong answer
you need to take the fourth root
ohhhh
and you get 5/6 for the angle
yes yes
and you get $\sqrt{2}\cos(5\pi/6) ...$
loafin around
and you repeat this for k = 2
but you know the pattern and it's just adding 1/2 pi to the resulting angle
yup we good
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no
isnt x(y/y) just x(1)
so you have
$\frac{x(y/1)}{x(1)} \geq \frac{x(1)}{x(1/y)}$
woomy
yes
lets define our function x(y) to be ay^2 + by + c (where a, b and c are positive)
ya
woomy
there probably is a nicer way to solve it but now just sub in the values in the quadratic, so:
$\ \frac{ay^2 + by + c}{a + b + c} \geq \frac{a + b + c}{\frac{a}{y^2} + \frac{b}{y} + c}$
woomy
i did that..
oh sorry, next time post your status on the question so we can start from where you reached
oh ok
so a + b + c is always going to be a positive number
hm wait let me try to think of waht to do from here
i got aby + bcy + ac(y^2)+ (ab+bc)/y + ac/(y^2)
$\geq$
woomy
thanks
wait what side of the equation is that?
2ab+2bc+2ca
i cross multiplied
oh yea i forgot about that
$aby + bcy + acy^2 + \frac{(ab+bc)}{y} + \frac{ac}{y^2} \geq 2ab + 2bc + 2ca$
woomy
correct?
ya
factor out a y:
$y(ab + bc) + acy^2 + \frac{(ab+bc)}{y} + \frac{ac}{y^2} \geq 2ab + 2bc + 2ca$
woomy
now you can factor out ab+bc
$acy^2 + (ab+bc)(y + \frac{1}{y}) + \frac{ac}{y^2} \geq 2ab + 2bc + 2ca$
woomy
now its easier to see that you can factor out an ac
$(ab+bc)(y + \frac{1}{y}) + ac(y^2 + \frac{1}{y^2}) \geq 2ab + 2bc + 2ca$
woomy
hmm now
oh
lets factor the second side of the inequality to look more like the first: $\ (ab+bc)(y + \frac{1}{y}) + ac(y^2 + \frac{1}{y^2}) \geq 2(ab + bc) + 2ac$
woomy
now its clear
ill leave the rest to you
try to confront the terms of (ab+bc) and of (ac) and notice an inequality that arises
@stone wadi do you need more help? i can continue if you wish
could, you wait, a minute?
yep, no problem
yeah, pls continue
rearange so that you have everything with ab+bc on one side
and everything with ac on the other
$(ab+bc)(y+(1/y)-2) \geq ac(2- (y^2)-(1/y^2))$
anonymoushuman
=(ab+bc)(something - 2)
np
yea thats correct mb lol
so: $\ (ab+bc)(y + \frac{1}{y}) - 2(ab + bc)\geq 2ac - ac(y^2 + \frac{1}{y^2})$
woomy
$\ (ab+bc)(-2 + y + \frac{1}{y}))\geq ac(2 - y^2 + \frac{1}{y^2})$
woomy
ya
im thinking about isolating the y's on one side and the constants on the other
but im not sure how that will help show that the inequality holds for all a,b,c
$\frac{-1}{y^2}$
$\frac{top}{bottom}$ remember the ${}$
anonymoushuman
in the end
whered you get that?
here
into this
could you maybe circle or screenshot the specific part
oh
ohh yea
the minus multiplies through
$\ (ab+bc)(-2 + y + \frac{1}{y}))\geq ac(2 - y^2 - \frac{1}{y^2})$
woomy
ya
im not so sure what we can do here
well, i gtg, gn
byee i also gtg to s leep
bye
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what's the det of A
$det(5A^{-1}B^t)=det(5Id)det(A^{-1})det(B^t)$
everg
Roblox game ?
not actually
I thought
np
As he just need the answer and that flash blue on top of picture, just as every others questions from roblox game
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how do i change any % out of X to % out of 100%?
wouldn't that just be the answer to 77% of 85%
what will?
idk the X
but i think i managed to get help from chat GPT
77/85
then times 100
yes
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Hi, this is part of my homework that isnt graded however it just didnt make sense for me
usually we write that as |x|
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hello my name is Rachmir and im studying too be a md and wiskunde (mathmatics)
i dont understand this if someone could help me out would mean the world
,rccw
what are you struggling with?
b and c
any idea for b?
what does it exactly say?
aha, id probably need the rest of the context to figure the answer to that
yes
yup
ok thank you again
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Sorry it is side ways
What do they mean by explain what ks happening on the graph when x=4
I plugged x into the graph of y= -1/2 + 2
And got y=0
What do I do
,rccw
Thanks
what does this look like visually? I assume it wants you to describe that
Idk how to
Wouldn’t it look the same as before if we know x=4
Yeah its saying explicitly what's happneing on the 'graph' so I assume it wants you to plot it and graph it. Draw x and y lines, and then plot your line on it
make a table with some values and then plot those points in your drawing
Ok
It says explain though
Doesn’t that usually mean with words
Ok
I have another question I need clarification on
,rccw
,rrcw
So when
The points are on the x axis
Are they excluded
From. The function
Like this guy put brackets meaning -1 and 3 are included
I know min and max are always excluded from the function
So do all positive intervals have parentheses?
And negative
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tbh, unless the function is going back up to be positive on intervals not plotted in the picture, then i don’t see the error. the previous picture seems to imply that your definition of positive is that f(x) > 0 not f(x) >= 0.
that might be it
i might be pretty tired also
.
unless the answer is asking you to point out that 0 is not negative nor positive
Im stumped
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it's with parenthesis because x=0 is neither positive nor negative, which is where you went wrong here
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I've got a problem I need to finish tonight that I forgot how to solve over the summer. f(x)=6^3 + 7x^2 - 63 + 20. I need a step by step on how to solve this, because I can't group it, and youtube isn't very helpful.
Yeah
alright, are you familar with the rational root theorem
No
it says that any rational root of the polynomial will be the ratio of two factors of the first and last coefficients
so in this case, it will be some ratio a/b where a is factor of 20 and b is a factor of 6
does that make sense?
is it just any factor of 20 or six, is it common, greatest?
how do you know which ones are correct?
you can either plug them into f(x) and check that you get 0, or you can divide f(x) by (x-r) where r is the root, and check that you get 0 remainder
because by the root factor theorem, if r is a root, then (x-r) is a factor of f(x)
on the other hand, you can also use the cubic formula since this is a cubic polynomial
but that's really painful
note that negatives are allowed here
right, that's important
I think that makes enough sense. thx.
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How does one calculate how long x is without a calculator
Let me assume this is a quarter of a circle, then i think you mean the radius of he circle is 50
Then you may use Pythagoras Theorem to find the green line
Not sure what you mean, the radius is 50 indeed but how do you know its a quarter of a circle
The answer is 30 so it makes sense but i dont see how
It just clicked
very true indeed, we cannot just say it's a quarter of a circle from the picture above.
unless it's written
but if it's not given, then we cannot determine x...
Yeah no the side with 10 should have writen next to it that the total is 50
50-10 = 40
the orange line is also 50 given that it's part of a circle
of course we might also have to assume the x is perpendicular to the radius..
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How should I describe this?
Partially overlapping circles?
This doesn't sound very professional...
you can just say something literal like “two circles with different radii that intersect each other”
if that level of specificity isn’t needed, then “intersecting circles” will suffice
That excludes tangencies right
no it doesn’t, but you can specify that separately if you’d like
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z and and its complex conjugate when added together leave you with only the real part
so a purely real part cant have any complex component
so you get no z that satisfies the equation
real
just leave the graph blank with only the axes marked on it
you can even write "empty graph" under it, so that its completely clear
i think "real = complex" is just a bad description
the graph is the set of points that satisfy the equation, so it's empty if no points satisfy the equation
and what about it? that's a number, not an equation
3x - iy is not even a number by itself, its just a expression in complex numbers
variable?
yeah 3x - iy is not a variable
the graph of an equation is empty if there are no numbers that satisfy the equation
i don't know what it would mean to graph something that's not an equation
graph theory is mentioned almost W
if the left hand side is real, and the right hand side has non-zero imaginary component, then it's empty
if x has to be a real number, then the graph of this is empty, because no real number x satisfies 2x = 1 + 2i
the only complex number that satisfies that is x = 1/2 + i, and that's not a real number
empty graph is mentioned 🔥 🔥 Peterson graph next up ⁉️
haha
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Im having trouble with finding the formula for this and understanding the question. Anybody could help?
,rccw
Sorry for bad image quality my hand wasn't steady
which one
Hmm number 4 first
try simplifying those roots first
Like this? 2√32 = 2√16•2 = 2√16 • √2 = 2•4√2?
Then uhh
8√2
k good
yes
well you get 14√2 after adding
then you have √2 top and bottom, just cancel it
so you only have to do 14/6
Alright
Done now number 5 which is the part im most confused
Can 8√6 be simplified?
well you can
but look at all the roots first, what number can they all get reduced to
yep that works
all of those numbers in those roots can get reduced to 3
so try to make them all sqrt(3)
Alright
Could the top roots be 6 and the bottom one be 3?
Meaning the root at the end will be √2
dont think thats the idea here
How so?
since every root can be reduced to only sqrt(3), you can simplify them by adding or subtracting on top and bottom
and after you simplify it to only one term top and above, you can just cancel the sqrt(3)
Alright but, uhh according to my teacher if the sqrt is 6 and it becomes √2x3 that means it cant be 8•2√3 as the sqrt of 2 is and irrational number
I'm sorry if I added length to this help
doesnt matter
oh i get what you mean now
24 is 6 * 4
so you wanna simplify sqrt(24) to 2sqrt(6)
Yeah
yeah thats valid too
Alright
Ill write that down
Btw the numbers that get Added are the one not in the roots right?
Same with subtraction
Is this correct?
Root 9 is 3 right?
So i should remove the √ in √3?
It should be 2*3 which is 6?
OHHHH I UNDERSTAND NOW
My brain not functioning
So the answer should be 7√2 right?
Tysm now I can get ready for tomorrow's exam
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Guys
How to do 1ai
To show the radius r of the top side of the cup is 4.5 ?
pls help
pls help with 1 ai
nvn got it
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how to do 2b
how to find upper bound
of that
pls
help
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1,3,6,10... whats the 50th term
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i dont know where to begin
ok
do you know what a aritmethic progression is
okay
good
what is the common difference
is the common difference constant?
no
and do you know arithmetic series
yes
oka
yes
so we can also write it as
1, 1 + 2, 6, 10
Indeed
then the difference between 2nd and 3rd is 3
so 1, 1 + 2, 1 + 2 + 3
!1!1!1!
what if it started from some random number instead
Yeah, I think he already noticed :]
like say 5,7,10...
2,3,4..
oh wait
7-5 = 2
yeah i cant count lol
in this case, it's 4 + 1, 4 + 1 + 2, 4 + 1 + 2 + 3...
sso the sequence is just an = 4 + (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ... n)
it's same as the 1, 3, 6, 10 ... sequence, just shifted by 4
so the 50th term would be larger by 4
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sin(x) + cos(2x) = 0
sin(x) = -cos(2x)
cos(pi/2 - x) = cos(pi - 2x)
pi/2 - x = pi - 2x + 2pik
x = pi/2 + 2pik
sin(x) + cos(2x)
sin(pi/2) + cos(2(pi/2))
1 + (-1)
= 0
So my only point is (pi/2, 0)
But the answer sheet says thats wrong? What did I do incorrectly?
Hi flip 🤗
hellu
What does injective mean?
oh sorry, injective (one-to-one) means that equal outputs implies equal inputs
f is injective if f(x) = f(y) implies x = y
Ohhhhhhh I think I see what you mean
pi/2 - x = pi - 2x + 2pik AND pi/2 - x = 2x - pi + 2pik
right?
yeah, exactly
Ok got it. 1 moment I will try solve
Hmm I got a different answer to what they wanted again
pi/2 - x = 2x - pi + 2pik
3pi/2 = x + 2pik
x = 3pi/2 - 2pik
so x = pi/2 (which we already had) and x = 3pi/2
you should have a 3x floating around, I think
Oh oops!
pi/2 - x = 2x - pi + 2pik
3pi/2 = 3x + 2pik
x = pi/2 - 2pik/3
so x = pi/2 (which we already had) and x = pi/6 and x = -5pi/6 and x = -3pi/2
Hmm its still not the answers they wanted
these (-5pi/6 and -3pi/2) are outside of the interval
rewriting the solution space for this (writing k as -k) we have x = pi/2 + 2kpi/3
there are more than two solutions generated here
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How solve it?
And other question. If {an} convergent sequence and bn is positive bounded sequence lim of an * bn = infinity?
I answered in the test no because if an = n and bn = 1/n the multiplication is constant 1
typically you'd use logarithms to bring the exponent down and then find the limit however possible
is the question if the product goes to infinity?
then yes your answer is fine
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The number of pairs of positive integers (x, y) satisfying the equation
x2 + y2 + 2xy – 2008x – 2008y – 2009 = 0 is ______.
can any1 help with this question
ig the ans is 1 but can anyone crosschk if i m wrong can anyone tell me correct ans
What pair?
bcuz sometimes i m getting ans as 2008 somehow
pairs of positive inteegers
You said you're getting 1 pair as the answer
yep
What pair did you find?

