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ok then where are you going to get three solutions to this quadratic equation?
thought so...
-5x -1
nice you are good
do you know vieta's formulas
no but interested
=-b/a?
partial recall...
you're still recalling it only partially
and with conflicting notation vs. our problem
anyway give this a read
and/or look up "vieta's formulas" elsewhere
cause you forgor
we have studied math in french but i'll try
we dont even know him
i 've taked a look
and i guess here a+b+c=0
a+b+c = 0, ab+bc+ca = -5, abc = 1.
in principle, your problem can be bashed with these alone.
reduce E to a fraction
$\frac{1+a}{1-a} = 1 + \frac{2a}{1-a}$, so $E = 3 + 2 \paren{\frac{a}{1-a} + \frac{b}{1-b} + \frac{c}{1-c}}$
Ann
maybe combine a/(1-a) + b/(1-b) + c/(1-c) into one fraction
ok i will see
ive got 13
which is not one of the correct answers
one of them are right : -1 , -7, 0 ,3
@paper depot
show your work?
$10 says you fucked up your algebra somewhere.
if you cannot send me your work, i cannot tell you where you screwed up.
i want to see how you solve it
@paper depot did you try it or should i close?
thank you for your help
People aren't going to do problems for you
no, i did not do it myself
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why does the top mean that it never equals 0
well if it is equal to 0, then $n = -\frac1{4\pi^2}(\pi\pm2\sqrt{(-1)^n})$
bee [it/its]
yh
and given all of the $\pi$s there that's not going to be an integer
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yo can someone explain this please it's kinda complex
what exactly dont you understand
the whole upper bounds of a,b,c thing
i understood this at first then i lost it lol
well whats the definition of an upper bound of a set
just read the definition of upper bound, you dont need the rest for this question
last sentence in first paragraph of second image
yeah but like how tf u implement that to find out that e,f,j,h are all upper bounds
well is e bigger than or equal to all of a,b,c?
yes
ok lemme solve this
it's g and b
lowest lower bound was a but we're looking for the highest so b
and g because were looking for the lowest upper bound
ok got it now
@worthy citrus thx
@worthy citrus isn't the lower bound of B and C, a?
uh yea
can you show the full question
you asked what the lower bound was
the middle paragraph is making an argument about the least upper bound
why is there no least upper bound
its not like they're unique
what do you think the least upper bound would be?
but d is not less than e
and e is not less than d
so neither can be the least upper bound
least upper bounds and greatest lower bounds are unique
@worthy citrus can you draw the hasse diagram of ({1, 2, 3, 4, 5}, |)
you should try and do it yourself
im tryin rn
is the partial order meant to be "divides"?
that looks fine to me
ight im moving onto the last years exam questions ill report back
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What percentage is 50 of 174?
,w What percentage is 50 of 174?
Thx
w, What percentage is 14 of 148?
just do (14 divided by 148) x 100
It’s that simple?
yes
this?
you probably multiplied by 1000 instead of 100
no
14 divided by 148
then you get that
and you multiply it by 100
that's your percentage
But 14/148
yes
you have to get a new calculator if it's telling you that 14/148 is 94 lol
So it would be 9.4%?
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Need help understanding this
I like loosely understand it but I’m not getting the right answers
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So what have you tried?
$\delta = 10.8\gamma$
Pixelius
Mhmm
So if you plug those values in what do you get?
35.424
How?
3.28 x 10.8
Can you plug them directly into the equation given?
$130 \frac{m}{\delta} = ? \frac{ft}{\gamma}$
Pixelius
We know what m and delta are, so just replace those values with what we said above
130 * (3.28 ft / 10.8 g) = ? Ft/g
What would ft/g be then
ft/g is the units of the answer
Would they also be 3.28 and 10.8
If you were trying to convert 130m to ft how would you do that?
Um
Knowing that the conversion rate is 1m = 3.28 ft
426.4
@deft vault Has your question been resolved?
Yeah exactly
And if we want to convert 1 d into g we do the same thing, and divide out the new conversion rate
$$130 \frac{m}{\delta} = 130\frac{m=3.28 ft}{\delta=10.8 \gamma} = 130 \frac{3.28}{10.8} \frac{ft}{\gamma} = 130 * .3037 \frac{ft}{\gamma} = 39.48 \frac{ft}{\gamma}$$
Pixelius
Aha
That is the correct answer that it had wanted
this is good but I should try to solve another question as practice
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Is this right ?
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all ok
looks good
ofc
just to make sure, the function is $\ln(\sqrt{x(x+1})$?
kheerii
what does your book say?
and are you 100% sure that this is the exact function given in the question?
then you're correct, there shouldn't be a square root there
the book answer suggests lack of logarithm
,w derivative of log(sqrt(x^2+x))
in book they show only some part
even if you don't use log properties to bring that 1/2 down, it should still give you the same answer
$\left( \sqrt{x^{2}+x} \right)'=\frac{2x+1}{2\sqrt{x^{2}+x}}$
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after taking the ln of both sides (and differentiating) what do you get?
yes
no
wait
$y=\sqrt{x^2+x}$
kheerii
$\log y=\frac1{2}\log(x^2+x)$
kheerii
now differentiate both sides and tell me what you get
the logarithmic mehtod takes a way much more time, then classical method
yeah, sounds like a weird exercise
yes
wait no
why is there a square root now
in the denominator on the right hand side
so we have $\frac1{y}\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{2x+1}{2(x^2+x)}$
kheerii
but what we want, is just the derivative of y (or dy/dx)
yes
and what is y?
correct
yes
yeah, just simplify the result
you should get the same thing that's given to you
yes
yes, logarithmic differentiation is only really necessary for problems like these
or for problems of the form $y=f(x)^{g(x)}$
kheerii
you will absolutely have to use the chain rule
and that derivative is wrong
it multiplies that by 2x after
due to the chain rule
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The average speed of a train in the onward journey is 25% more than that of the retum journey. The train halts for one hour on reaching the destination. The total time taken for the complete to and fro journey is 16 h covering a distance of 800 km. The speed of the train in the onward journey, is
I don't need an answer please explain
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Total 16 hr
Yes 16 hr
Total 17 hr without rest is 16
Okay thats not what you sent in the chat but if you traveled for 16h
Do you know if you are assuming the distance to and back are equal?
If the only information you are given is what you sent then you have to
So you have 400km there and 400km back
Honestly Yes that's not even in the question when I Googled the answer they all added 1hr and made 17 hr
Wait I send picture
alr
That's sure
Yes please send question though so I can help because what you typed is not the question that you googled the answer for
Fr I am confused same as you
Where did you get the answer you googled from?
No I mean where did you get it
From google
Lol google question you find more Websites with answer
I seen 10+ websites
With same answer
I didn't understand a single thing
Ill solve it give me a sec
Yes
But I don't need the answer I need clear explanation
I will call distance to d1 and distance from d2, time spent onward t1 and time spent returning t2 alright?
Velocity to v1 and velocity from v2
Ok
What is relationship between v1 and v2
I don't know
Speed and velocity will be same thing for this question
if the speed on the onward journey is 25% more than that of the return journey
Yes
I am an arts student I don't know much please explain go on
25% more means you take 25% of the value and add it to the value right?
Yes
Wait 1min
Where 10 come from
Just a random example
but 25% more of x is equal to x+(0.25)x right?
x+0.25x = 1.25x
Why are we making 25% to 0.25%?
No
do you know what 25% of 100 is?
25
Yes
How did you get that though
Is it just memorized or did you go through a process
Common knowledge?
Ok
One more how x become 1?
because its more
Yes
No
Okay
25% more means you take 25% then add it to the original value
what is 25% more than 100?
-25?
you can break it up into 125% of 100 is equal to 100% of 100 + 25% of 100
Can you simplify more sorry lol
okay
so 125% of something is equal to 100% + 25% of it right?
so what is 100% of 100
100
- 25% of 100 is what?
125
Yes
So what's 125% of 100?
125
125% of 100 is equal to (100% of 100) + (25% of 100)
100% of 100 is 100
25% of 100 is 25
100+25 = 125
What will be 425% of 200 is?
Well
Nothing just clarifying something
If you were to break it up like how I broke it up
into 100%s and then the remainder
how many 100%s would there be
and what would the remaining % be
What is the answer bro?
Well you should be the one answering I already know
the answer should be 850
If you were to break it up like how I broke it up
like 425% of something
Can you explain this one
.
Ok
so what is 100% of 200
Before that your showing 425 how it becomes 850?
Yes
200
50
Good
so we have 4(100% of 200) + (25% of 200)
we said 100% of 200 is 200 and 25% of 200 is 50
so we have 4(200) + (50)
which is 800 + 50
or 850
right?
Yes
So
Going back to the question
125% of x is equal to 100% of x + 25% of x right?
Yes
100% of x = x right?
Yes
Same thing
1/4 = 0.25
125% of x is equal to 100% of x + 25% of x
100% of x = x, 25% of x = 0.25x
so 125% of x is equal to x+0.25x
Yes
x+0.25x simplified is what?
125%
100%
No
Then?
Ok sir
Alright
Can I ask if English is your first language? Because if it is not it might be more worthwhile to wait for someone who speaks your first language to help you
No problem you can continue
I will never find my first language people here and I am sorry for my english
Your English is fine its just that I think it is probably much harder on you to learn math and my English explanations as well
But anyways
so the speed there is 25% more than the speed back right?
No problem sir thanks for understanding but I have to go through
Yes
Ok
what would be the relationship between v1 and v2?
Yes
Sorry read it wrong
?
v1 is 25% more than v2
Ok
Mm
so v1=1.25v2
Yes
Alright so because they both travel the same distance
Yes 400km
their time is related as well
Yes 8hr
if someone drives 25% faster they will get there 25% faster right?
No
Oops sorry they drive 25% fast right
25% faster yes
Yes sir
Okay
So for some random number x
if someone drives x% faster how much faster will they get there as a %?
Ok
Should I calculate?
Ok sir
I might have phrased it badly
So
are you comfortable with units?
I can try and explain like that
So what are the units of velocity?
S=D/T
Ok
v1 and t1 will represent the speed and time spent going there, v2 and t2 will represent the time spent coming back
v1=1.25v2 is what we said earlier
and v1=(D/T) is what you said
they both travel the same distance of 400M
so v1=(400/t1)
Yes
Yes
Yes right
Yes perfectly i understand now
Yes
total time = (time spent traveling to) + (time spent traveling from)
total time also = 16
so
16 = (time spent traveling to) + (time spent traveling from)
16 = (t1) + (t2)
Yes
so we have
t2=1.25t1
16 = t1 + t2
Can you solve that for t1 and t2 for me please?
Tell me what you et
get
2.25 ?
alright let me rephrase it a little bit
I think my notation might be confusing
instead of t1 i write x, and instead of t2 i write y okay?
Ok no problem sir
1
and what is
y=
Yes
..
No
16 = 2.25x does not mean x = 2.25
you have to divide both sides by 2.25
(16/2.25) = x
No
is right
But to be more accurate
Because it has infinite .11111 right?
its not 7.11 its 7.1111111...
Yes
so we just say x=(16/2.25)
Ok
going back to S=(D/T) for your speed equation right?
Yes (my😅)
Sure
Should I divide it with 7.11 or 7.1111111 infinite
when you have a fraction divided by a fraction
lets say (a)/(b/c)
it is equation to
(ac)/b
so
calculate
400(2.25)/16
Thank you so much ❤ sir
If you don't mind you can write it all at once
So I can remember this method
Sorry for troubling you and thanks once again
400/(16/2.25)
= 400 * (2.25/16)
= [400*2.25]/16
I think he meant the whole thing
Yes
Oh sorry xD all you
No problem ty for trying to help
So you find an equation relating the two speeds, k(a) = b where a is the speed there and b is the speed back
you find k by doing the % faster thing we talked about
for instance if it was 50% faster, k = 1.5
if it was 200% faster, k = 2
Yes sir
250% faster, k = 2.5
267% faster, k = 2.67
and so on
so you have
k(a) = b where a is the speed there and b is the speed back
assuming the distance there and back are equal (This is not neccesarily true, you have to check in the context of the problem)
using S = (D/T)
I will call the time spent going there x and the time spent coming back y
S = (D/T)
a = (D/x), b = (D/y)
subtituting those back into the equation
k(D/x) = (D/y)
then multiply both sides by x and y, divide both sides by D giving you
ky = x
y + x = the total time which I will call T
y + x = T
ky = x
substitute ky = x into y + x = T
y + ky = T
then
Lol I feel guilty 😔 to tell again write all this
Its fine
factor out y
to get
y(1+k) = T
divide by (1+k)
y = T/(1+k)
substitute this back in y + x = T
T/(1+k) + x = T
x = T-(T/1+k)
x or y will be your answer depending on what they ask for (speed going there or speed coming back)
Thank you for your sweet time God bless you bro
Yeah good luck with your stuff God bless you too
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Can anyone help me write the solving code of this integral in Matlab/Octave? im not really sure how to solve it
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Are you sure that's not a typo?
x^2 will be positive, as will the numerator.
You can convert the numerator into |cos(2n + 1)| |x|.
Then, |cos(2n + 1)| is a constant with respect to the integral, so you can move it in front of the integral.
The integral will evaluate to a constant.
And then the limit of |cos(2n + 1)| as n goes to infinity doesn't exist.
As far as Matlab, see https://www.mathworks.com/help/symbolic/limits.html, infinity can be written as Inf, https://www.mathworks.com/help/symbolic/sym.int.html, and https://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/abs.html.
alright, ill look into it. thank you!
No problem.
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Can someone please help me with this question I’ve been stuck on it for the past two hours
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I need help deriving this.
This is all ive gotten to so far, i dont know how to move forward.
do you know how to differentiate x^(1/2)?
1/x ?
I think so
can you state it in full
I have a formula sheet with power rules
Then i do not know in the context of differentiation
what is the derivative of x^n?
n*x^n-1
Ann
now take the derivative of $2\sqrt{x-2}$ with this and the chain rule.
Ann
I do what i just did with x with the other constants ?
My first language is not english sorry.
I dont think my teacher has gone through the chain rule
then what is?
Swedish
ok nevermind
is this what your referring to?
yes, that is the chain rule
Never seen before
you can’t differentiate that expression without the chain rule
or in other notation:
$$\dv{y}{x} = \dv{y}{u} \dv{u}{x}$$
ℝαμΩℕωⅤ
Not ideal.
i’d recommend learning the basics of differentiation first, you won’t get far without learning the chain rule
Okay. Any recommended videos or pages to look at?
khan academy
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Ive done i and ii, i dont know how to approach iii as I dont know how to represent the I vector in sumamtion form
A = a_ij
what year are you in
2nd year
oh uni
university
australia?
this is just a prerequisite sheet for linear algebra, which im starting right now
uk
how do i represent the identity vector in summation notation
You can use a kronecker delta: δ_ij = 1 if i=j and 0 if i != j
i havent heard about that before
strange let me check the notes
maybe its further ahead
that isnt mentioned anywhere in our lecture notes, is there another way of doing this question?
maybe with linear maps actually they gave that option in the question
but id be unsure how to approach it with linear maps
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try simplifying the numerator to find out what values x can't assume
you effectively have to find it's domain
come again?
same process as a and b, factor the top and bottom and divide what you can
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the equation 4(x-2) = 200 is a true equation for a particular value of x. explain why 2(x-2)=100 is also true for the same value of x
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4(x-2) = 200
2(x-2)=100
What do you notice changes from the 1st equation to the 2nd
since the first number is smaller in the 2nd equation it makes the number at the end smaller aswell
pretty much lol
but
by how much it is smaller on the left side and by how much it is smaller on the right side?
2 and 100
what about not subtraction-wise but division-wise?
Nah friend, silly mistakes happen to everyone, thats how we learn
@edgy orchid if you want to find out if it's really true, then you can just solve the given
4(x-2)=200
4x-8=200
4x=200+8
4x/4=208/4
x=52
2(x-2)=100
2x-4=100
2x=100+4
2x/2=104/2
x=52
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In the set of real numbers, the relation is defined this way:
I have to define the cardinality of the set of each of these classes:
afaik those are equivalence relations on S
so it's all y's that are in relation with 2
or all (-y)'s
I think it translates to 2-y?
Help
using this definition
I think they are infinitely many?
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yes. please
What do u need help with
with the problem above
I'm trying to figure out the quotient set for the relation S
It's infinte
I also have to find the index for S
and idk how to do that
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I have a question. If we say k is a nature number which is not even. Is that meaning k is odd?
That is what it looks like
yeah
Well if you define even as divisible by two and odd as not -divisible by two you cant have both at the same times
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A*B = C
And the other aren't important
1 * a + 7 * b + 3 * c + 5 *d = 0
And other lines are same as well
This is given by the first line
That's right
I think that find a,b,c,d will not be the idea
It will take time and the exam is only 1hour and 25 questions
Well, that will not take 4m, 2m is enough.
To find a b c d?
But the calculator is not allowed
And how can I even get them
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Could I get some help with numbers: 9, 11, 17, 21, 23 and 25
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for 17, 21, 23, 25 all of them have some pattern that you have to find
it's hard to help without straight up telling you the answer
17 21 and 25 all involve exponents
notice that natural numbers do not include 0 and 0 is in the set
it would be $Z^+$
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this my second week of the class so far we just say like N, Z, R
alright ignore the Z+
just do N and (x-1)^2
that way, every number will be -1 so it begins 0, 1, 2, ...
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Can someone help me answer a question about pre calculus
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Other than plugging in x and y values, is there any way to solve this? Obviously we'll get the right answer if we just input the x values (the answer will be A). But if it wasn't multiple choice, how can you solve it? Like, does just knowing the two coordinates allow us to write an equation that satisfies it?
You can solve it by using slope formula.
$\frac{y_{2}-y_{1}}{x_{2}-x_{1}}$
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do these two look correct?
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I'm supposed to look at images of three graphs and order them based on:
- Original function
- Derivative
- Second Derivative
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curently making a probability game.
How would i go about calculating the expected value of the following game?
bet $2
roll 2 dice and draw 1 card
card value: 1-13
dice sum value: 2-12
if card value is equal to sum of dice win $6
if card value is less than sum of dice win $3
if card value is more than sum of dice win $0
you can start by calculating the probability of each possible sum of the dice and the probability of drawing a card with those values.
then combine those probabilities with these possible outcomes
then multiply the win amount by the probability of each outcome and sum them up.. and then u can subtract that amount with the original $2
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you want to design a 12-hour clepsydra, with height 4ft, radius of the top 1ft. it has a hole in the bottom of radius 1 inch. assuming that the clepsydra is created by revolving a function about the y-axis, find the function that makes the given clepsydra. (clepsydra is a water clock that drains, starts full with water)
,tex -A\sqrt{2gh}=\pi f(h)^2\frac{dy}{dt}
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i've gotten to this relationship and know that i can plug in values to solve for f(h), but it doesn't obey the restriction that the top of the clepsydra needs to have a radius of 1 foot
is it some sort of initial value thing
here's where the relationships come from
i switched y with h cause it makes more sense
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the function which when revolved creates the water clock
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by derive, do you mean find the derivative of?
e^(0,5x) * e^x = e ^ (1.5x)
combining powers
then use, [e^(f(x))]' = f'(x)e^(f(x))
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How would I find the values of a,b and c
for an equation of a line G1 given by ax + by = c intersecting another line G2 at a right angle given by 2x + 8y = 15 if the point (3,9) is on the line
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You can get three equations, one by using the point on the line and plugging that in, another by using the fact that the lines are at right angles (switch to point slope form maybe?) and a third by finding the point where they intersect. Then with those three equations you can solve for the three variables using any method you want, matrices, substitution, etc.
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gradient of g(a) = 0
what exactly does thgat mean
i have my gradient to (2x,-1) which can never be (0,0) since -1 isnt depended on x nor y but that isnt the number 0, that is (0,0) not 0
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