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Sam has two identical red tokens. How many identical black tokens must be added to his collection so that, when all the tokens are used, 55 different arrangements in a row are possible?
would i like expand x!
so it would be
x(x+1)(x+2)!
then i can cancel out the (x+2)!
no
you want to cancel x!
yes
not (x+2)!
so what can you do to make (x+2)! x!
105?
yes
now finish from there but before you close
you can recognise how n choose 2 = triangle numbers
and 55 is the 10th triabgle number
what
do you lmow what a triangle number is
no
x^2 + 3x + 2 = 110
would i uh
use quadratic formula
ofc after i take 110 to the other side
yeah sure do that
altervative you can just factorise 110 and see which pair of factors are one apart
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I understand that you can find maximums, minimums, and stationary points in a 2 variable function that graphs out a 3d surface
I was taught that you can find whether the critical points in this 3d surface are maximums, minimums, or stationaries by putting the double derivatives at this critical point into something called a hessian matrix
if the determinant of this matrix is positive, then its a max if the double derivative in the x direction is below 0
if the determinant of the matrix is positive, then its a min if the double derivative in the x direction is above 0
and if the determinant is negative, then its just a stationary point
I was told this by my teacher
I'm just here to ask if its possible to find the max, min and stationaries in the following way and if this is valid too
Max --> Double derivative at the point in both x and y direction are negative
Min --> Double derivative at the point in both x and y direction are positive
Stationary --> Double derivative at the point in x direction is negative, and in y direction is positive OR double derivative at the point in x direction is positive, and negative in the y direction
A stationary point is the same as a critical point to me
It's just when the derivative (gradient) is 0
yes this is what i meant
I guess the third option would look like this
saddle point
Yes
It's not the only option though
You can also have a positive double derivative in x and a zero double derivative in y
Yes
i forgot all cases for the saddle point
my question basically just centers around the following
can i just do that instead of bothering with the determinant of the hessian matrix?
I mean if I remember correctly the Hessian is basically just a way to find what you're asking about
yes they give the same result they're just two different methods
i'm basically just asking this because i'm sitting in class right now and was wondering how to interpret these stationary points and i sort of intuited this in my head
and i want to know if my understanding of this is correct
even though the hessian gives the same result
For min and max, I believe so
For other critical points, well there are more options in 2D
so if we include all combinations of double derivatives being having different signs or just being 0 (+ or -) then its correct, yes?
if we define other nonmax or nonmin critican points that way
I think so
In 1D a critical point is either a min, a max, or just a point with horizontal tangent that is neither min or max
In 2D, the determinant of the Hessian gives you the Gaussian curvature
(imagine a sphere that "touches" the function at that point, its radius is the inverse of the Gaussian curvature)
a sphere in 2d?
In 3D, when you graph the 2D function
oh okay
Just another way to visualize it
We use the determinant of the Hessian because it's the product of the eigenvalues, so if it's positive then the eigenvalues are either both positive or both negative, and you have a min or a max
Hopefully you have some experience with eigenvalues
I do not, the teacher just shoehorned in the idea of a hessian matrix so we could find maxes and mins
Hm sounds like a physics lesson
believe it or not its a math lesson
my understanding of linear algebra isnt the best so I was just coming here to find out if I conceptually understood how to find maxes and mins and stationaries in 3d space
in terms of just looking at double derivatives
because i dont conceptually understand how the hessian matrix is supposed to give us these maxes and mins because i dont know what an eigenvalue is
Yes I think your conceptual understanding is good, you just have to be careful and account for all possibilities
okay, thank you
i'll continue to just use the hessian without knowing what it is at this point just to get the answers right, but its comforting to know that I'm not completely misunderstanding everything
thank you
You're welcome
I'm trying to find an analogy for the eigenvalues but it's so abstract...
i wont burden you with teaching me about eigenvalues, i'll close the channel now so others can use it, thank you again
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b)
This is what I thought
So, I tried to do something with complementary
Like saying 1 - Probability there are no balls that has same number as round picked
Which must be the probability that at least one satifies
And I tried to do something with like the binomial saying it had 0 successes
but not quite the right result -< left side is the right result, and right side is what i got
google derangement
Oh shit
That's literally the formula
or almost
the one he has
In combinatorial mathematics, a derangement is a permutation of the elements of a set in which no element appears in its original position. In other words, a derangement is a permutation that has no fixed points.
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Need help finding all functions f(n) : N -> N. Satisfying f(mn) = f(m)f(n), and f(n) < f(n + 1) for all natural numbers m, n.
Didnt you post this problem, like quite a while ago?
Hmm okay
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1703615/the-functional-equation-fmn-fmfn-where-f-mathbbn-rightarrow-mathbb
this might help
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Misri?
yes
Wait whats a dhil3?
side
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hwo do u differentiate this
have you heard of the chain rule

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latex:
$$w_0+f/I_0=w_1\times R-f\times R/I_0$$
Could you clarify what these values are? Is everything here a real number or is there more going on?
yes you have written this very badly wrong
nHail
if you recognize this formula I'll let you handle this
this seems to be a question from rotational mechanics with torque stuff
please post the original question

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hi need help with understanding how to do this
I would start by writing out a few terms, see if theres a pattern
also how are we defining n choose k when n is rational?
hmm wdym? what did u get from ratio test?
i dont actually understand what n choose k is, teacher just told us thats sorta the form of what it looks like
should just be 1.7^n on the right hand side there in that denominator
how did u go from line 2 to 3 
everything cancels except for 1/5-n on the numerator and n+1 on the denominator
oh I got it
and also the 1.7 yeah
yeah just got it sorry
well doesnt this approach 0
doesnt it converge anything less than 1 for ratio test
u did this wrong
u forgot abs value!
Its 1.7 with abs value i think
Let me check on wolfarmalpha but I believe that is the case
alr
that would make sense
especially since we didnt get taught anything that would help us know what exactly it converges to
it converges...
this is it right (1/5 = 0.2)?
i dont know if thats the correct form
I wrote $\choose{n}{k} = \frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}$
ItzKraken
fudge
yeah it should be the same
alr
wtf
its $n\choosek = $ $\frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}$
so my prof just taught us opposite or?
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$\binom{a}{b}$ if you want that syntax btw
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$\binom{n}{k} = \frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}$
ItzKraken
ok so my prof taught us that n! is denominator
i have so many notes written out that way
still dont know how to find what it converges to
ur prof has a skill issue
well first apply ratio test again
Lemme see what I can come up with
The n is in the bottom in their question
In elementary algebra, the binomial theorem (or binomial expansion) describes the algebraic expansion of powers of a binomial. According to the theorem, it is possible to expand the polynomial (x + y)n into a sum involving terms of the form axbyc, where the exponents b and c are nonnegative integers with b + c = n, and the coefficient a of each ...
Fractional binomial have different definition
Look under generalized
still his denom had $n!$ but it should be $n!*(\frac{1}{5} -n)!$
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How can o solve this integral:
$\oint_{\gamma}^{}\frac{e^{iz}}{z^2}dz$
Olá, me chamam de Misas
$\gamma=e^{it},0\leq t\leq 2$
Olá, me chamam de Misas
I've tried Cauchy's integral theorem but doesn't worked well
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hey yall dont know where to start with this one
So
I think
Since it is a right triangle, thus the hypotenuse will be 13, since two legs are 12 and 5
And for cosine, it will be adjacent/hypotenuse
Thus cosx=12/13
damn iam just supposed to adjust the formulas on right to somehow get cos x :D
ill send another example
its alright ill try to do it have an idea might work :D
iam still clueless
Sinx/cosx =5/12 first
Then you do cross multiply
You got 5cosx=12sinx
Then you square both side, you got 25cos^2x=144sin^2x
You can change it to 25cos^2x-144sin^2x=0
Then you know cos^2x+sin^2x=1, you multiply this by 25, and subtract it from the first equation
Then you got -169sin^2x=-25
Then you got sinx=5/13
Then you got cosx=12/13 by using cos^2x+sin^2x=1
give me a minute i think iam on the right path
Ok
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obviously the matrix is symmetric
so we have $M=P^{-1}DP$ where $D$ is diagonal and $P$ is reversible.
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i don’t know where to start
,tex say $t=\alpha/n$. Then you have $\lambda_1 = \cos t +\sin t$ with $v_1 = (1,1)$ and $\lambda_2 = \cos t - \sin t$ with $v_2 = (1,-1)$.
Thus [P = \begin{bmatrix}1&1\1&-1\end{bmatrix}] and [D=\begin{bmatrix} \cos t +\sin t&0\0&\cos t - \sin t\end{bmatrix}]
did you have a logic way to function lambda1 and lambda2
RaD0N
like how did you find them ?
1 moment. Let me fix that
RaD0N
My 2 cents on identity matrix of dimension 2x2
basically, I chosed the vector (1,1) and done the multiplication and saw that it is an eigen vector. Then I tried (1,-1) and done the same thing.
but how did you know 1,1 would work
because the columns are almost identical, it's only interchanging the rows
but u also could solve but brute force
solve $\det(A-\lambda I_2)=0$ for $\lambda$.
RaD0N
yes, that's the characteristic equation for a matrix
and then [\cos t +\sin t = \sqrt{2}\sin(t+\pi/4)]
with
[\cos t - \sin t = \sqrt{2}\cos(t+\pi/4)]
RaD0N
don't think that's necessary. just need to take limit as t->0, no?
not that fast
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I guess that matrix could approach 0
,tex $\lim_{n\to\infty} \sqrt{2}\sin^n(\alpha/n+\pi/4)=\sqrt{2}\left(1/\sqrt{2}\right)^{+\infty}=0.$
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is this not right?
should be correct
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I'm getting a 6/9 🤦♂️
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I’m trying to find f’(x) of the integral on the right (equal to f(x)), but the textbook says the answer is cosx(sqrt(sinx))
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Let $Q:\mathbb{C} \rightarrow \hat{\mathbb{C}}$ be a rational function with no real poles such that $\lim_{|z|\rightarrow \infty} Q(z)=0$.\
Show that:\
$\lim_{R\rightarrow +\infty} \int_{-R}^R Q(x)e^{ix}dx = 2\pi i \sum_{\substack{z_0\ pole\ of\ Q\ Im(z_0)>0}}Res(Q(z)e^{iz},z_0)$.
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hello
so far I have that
$S={s_1,s_2,...,s_n}, V={a_1s_1,a_2s_2,...,a_ns_n:a_1,a_2,...,a_n\in\mathbb{F}}$
george clooney real account
i understand the intuition for this pretty well
but don't know how to prove formally
but basically T fulfils equation $b_1t_1+b_2t_2+...+b_mt_m=0, m\leq n$
george clooney real account
if all the b_i are equal to zero then i've proved linear independence and if not all of them are then i need to show that there is a smaller subset that spans it
how...?
well yeah we can go by contradiction
suppose not all of the b_i are 0
what would that mean ?
@river hedge
that some of them "cancel out"
but idk how to show that really?
that one of them is a multiple of the other i suppose but that's only true when there's 2
like if there's three base vectors going at 0, 2pi/3, 4pi/3 radians from the origin then three of them would cancel out
but i find it hard to state that mathematically
that you have a nontrivial lin combo which gives you 0 yeah
but where do i go from there?
so say we have $c_1 t_{i_1} + \cdots + c_k t_{i_k} = 0$, with all the $c_i \neq 0$, and the $i_k$ select some of the indexes $1\cdots m$
aPlatypus
ah okay
well then
well you can substitute one out entirely
yep
so the list is now one element smaller
and repeat if there are still nontrivial combos?
or just
by contradiction tbh
"not smallest"
well you've already shown the contradiction yes
okay thank you so much
man linear algebra is really interesting but
the proofs are weird
i like analysis more
ok tysm for the help
welcome to math
yeah its my first year of undergrad
very fun and i love it
but
omg dude
see u :)
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How shool I solve this?
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stuck on this problem here is what i have tried so far

implicit diff the equation and plug in 3 and 1 and for x and y and solve for y'?
do you know where i messed up?
oh wait was that file what youve done so far?
yea
i was waiting for a screenshot or something
yea the file is a picture of my paper work
id prefer not to download anything
what i got was a slope of 9/130 +103/130
but that does not sound right
what do you mean doing after?
just looks very jumbled
were you trying to get dy/dx=f(x,y) or were you just subbing in (3,1) then solving after
first i tried to get the derevative which i thougt was 48x/(4x^2+4y^2)(52y)
then i plugged in 3
i think i might have messed up on the derevative
sorry for the jumbled work
your second line after differentiating was fine
this isnt though
if you were going to rearrange for dy/dx you would have to expand all the brackets first
it would be easier to just plug (3,1) into your second line
chain rule lol i'm blind
never closed my square bracket, oops
no its fine
ok so why could i not have divided part of it like the way i did
it
instead of combining
what exactly were you actually dividing by?
that denominator doesnt look right to me
the picture
idk
wait ok i am confused now is -9/13 wrong?
hm one momento
that is correct for slope of the tangent
yeah youre right
my 4y should be 4y^3
show us the equation for the tangent
yea algith let me caclulate
the calculation is done, slope was all that we needed calculation for
the equation should just be plug and chug now
where is the 40/13 coming from
?
i plugged in 3 and then -27/13 add to 1 or 13/13
and then that would be equal to b right?
so -9/13x +40/13
yea ok it is coorrect
i just put it into the thing
i am good thank you for the hlep
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Could someone help me with part c? I am getting the initial velocity to be zero, but I am not sure if its right
This is my attempt
Im assuming its right? Because if the door is slammed shut (y=0) position is zero and velocity would be 0
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I evaluated it as 124-(-17) / 6-(-3). Which resulted in 141/9, but the answer was still wrong.
please tag me when a helper is here
How did you get -17 for f(-3)?
Let me redo it
oh for fucks sake
Got it
Help with this one please @drifting jackal
Let me go back and do the problem
The mean theorem I got 364/14 which equals 26
The deriv is 6x^2-18x-60
Which I factored out to get x^2-3-10
Would I ahve to do quadratic formula?
Yes but you're missing the part where it says f'(c) is equal to the mean slope
If the mean slope is 26
That means f'(c) = 26
So this is equal to 26
Ah yes yes forgot about that
So I set the deriv equal to 26
I believe thats what we did in class at least
so x^2-3-10 = 26?
You need to have it equal to 0
Then use the quadratic formula
Also I suggest doing 6x^2-18x-60 = 26
Instead of dividing by 6
So then you don't have to deal with a fraction
You just said two different things so
Should i bring 26 over to the left
and then do quadratic?
Yes, move the 26 over first
Yes
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What’s the conjugate of i square root 2?
$-i\sqrt{2}$
Ok
assuming you just mean the complex conjugate
Would -i √2(i √2) become -i^2+2?
If I multiplied them together
... no
- if you know what a complex conjugate is, you should be able to do very basic multiplication of complex numbers to see what it results in
- ... what do you think the point of a complex conjugate is
look up "how to multiply numbers" and us the property that $i^2 = -1$ to solve this yourself
So the answer would be 3
-i^2 +2
first of all, what you wrote isnt equal to 3, but also
where did you get addition from?
why are you adding anything? your question is pure multiplication
Square root 2 Times Square root two is 2
a very convenient property of complex numebrs and their conjugates is that when we multiply them together we get a real number
also a "complex conjugate" is just the same as the first number, but the imaginary part has the opposite sign
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im not convinced i wasnt being trolled
Original problem included complex numbers but it required roots
(mostly cuz of the random final answer at the end thats unrelated to everything else)
okay fine sure
glad i could help
I just needed help with the first part of the question
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for #37 idk where to even start
i think you gotta change it to spherical coordinates
so sqrt(x^2 + y^2 + z^2) = p right?
Yup
… no
no no
This but no sqrt in exponent
pe^(p^2)
Yeah that’s right
im confused on the bounds of integration now
What about them?
so x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = a^2 is one half of the sphere?
A full sphere
they’re two spheres total
One of radius a
One of radius b
so instead of integrating p from 0 to R
you integrate from radius a to radius b
Not area per say
sphere a is inside sphere b
You’re integrating a function
Uh between the two no?
ah
Integrating across the volume between surface a and surface b
Those surfaces are spheres
i see
I gtg don’t forget the jacobian !!!!
It was my pleasure
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how do i do this?
and this
for 9 i tried setting up the integral
$$\pi\int_{0}^{2}(y^2)^2-(2y)^2)dy$$
Arctic
the shaded area is what we are rotating, yes?
i did that
😭
im so stupid im sorry
2y should have gone before y^2
but 13 still doesnt make sense
soooo
no cus that wouldnt make sense
so to find orange you do $\int_{-1.047}^{1.047} 3 dy - \int_{-1.047}^{1.047} \sec x + 1$
ItzKraken
(1.047 is approximately the intersection point of sec x + 1 and y =3)
well let orange area = O
then $\int_{0}^{2\pi} O dx$, i think
ItzKraken
shouldnt it be pi times it
ItzKraken

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oh wait am dumb
we dont need to subtract
am close but I dont have the exact answer (I am off by a few decimal places)
(bounds are +-pi/3)
thx
BRUH AM STILL OFF BY 0.1 TF
okay i gotta do this by hand
did you get it @sudden compass
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YEAH IT IS INBETWEEN
GENERALLY, ITS:
[VOLUME OF HIGHER FUNCTION] - [VOLUME OF LOWER FUNCTION]
THE Y=3 LINE IS HIGHER THAN Y=1+ SEC(X) FOR THE REGION OF INTEREST
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2n^+n``` how can I solve this?
2n^2 + n or 2n^n
Solve what?
the expression you typed is also questionable
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can I say it is 3n^2?
no idea what your expression is supposed to be
what do you want to solve for though?
do you have a pic of the original problem
can 3n^2 equal to 2n^2 + n
they're not equivalent, but can have the same value depending on what n is
what if n is > 1000?
no
so they cannot be equal if n > 1000
you can determine when they're equal by solving the equation
3n^2 = 2n^2 + n
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which ones are bipartite? i thought B,C and D but its not correct
when is a graph bipartite?
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when the edges go across ???
but cant you redraw some of the ones i sent so the edges dont go across?
are you confusing it with planar?
bipartite means that you can put the vertices into two sets, such that all the edges are from one of the sets to the other
for example, yes
although in that case all of them are connected
which doesnt have to be the case in general
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∫dx/(2cos^2(x)+3)
multiply numerator and denominator by 1/cos^2theta
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what is happening there, why is there dx/ right after the integral? 🤔
$\int\frac{dx}{2cos^2(x)+3}$
this is your problem?
dx/y = (1/y)dx isn't it?
oh nm i was confused
Soosh
$\int\frac{sec^2(x)dx}{2+3(1+tan^2x}$
control
now substitute tan^2x
I mean not now
first solve denominator
little bit
$\int\frac{sec^2(x)dx}{5+3tan^2x}$
control
$\int\frac{1/5 sec^2(x)dx}{1+3/5tan^2x}$
$\int 1/5 \frac{sec^2(x)dx}{1+3/5tan^2x}$
$1/5\int\frac{sec^2(x)dx}{1+3/5tan^2x}$
$3/5\int\frac{sec^2(x)dx}{5/3 +tan^2x}$
$1/3\int\frac{ sec^2(x)dx}{5/3+5/3tan^2x}$
oof finally
no
shit
$1/3\int\frac{ sec^2(x)dx}{5/3+tan^2x}$
control
$1/3\int\frac{ 3dx}{5+3t^2}$
$1/3\int\frac{ sec^2(x)dt}{5/3+tan^2x}$
$1/3\int\frac{ 3dt}{5+3t^2}$
HolyDevil
$\int\frac{ dt}{5+3t^2}$
HolyDevil
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first, do you know what are eigenvalues?
yes
Hello guys, please assist me. in this tutorial the result with my ? mark how come he equaled- 180x10 with 5 exponentiation equals to 1.8x10 with 7 exponentiation? as first will be 180,000,000, and second 18,000,000,000
sorry this help channel is being used rn
How did you get 18 000 000 000
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Sorry i just opened it without looking
are you familiar with the equation Av = λv, where λ is our eigenvalue
please suggest right channel to ask about that
an available math help channel
no
ok so basically, an eigenvalue is some constant λ such that the equation Av = λv is satisfied, where v is the corresponding eigenvector (which is non-zero)
we find the eigenvalue by solving the equation det(A - λI) = 0
do you know what a determinant is?
but how do i simplify the determinant here?
(t+4-λ)(4t+1-λ) - 4(1-t)^2 = 0, and then solve for λ
and how do i solve it?
and where is the 1/5?
multiply both sides by 5 to get rid of it
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Is the set of polynomials with integer coefficients with the polynomial composition operation set on it a monoid? I think yes, but i want someone to confirm 
Also I think it's not a group, just monoid
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can some1 please explain this. I have an exam tomorrow and cant figure this shit out
Multiply the first fraction by z-1 on both the numerator and denominator
Multiply the second fraction by x-1 on both top and bottom
Same with third fraction multiply by (y-1) on both top and bottom
Now the denominator of the three fractions is all the same and you can combine the numerator
but how do i know to do that? is it just the regular procedure?
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How to prove that $\sum_{n=1}^{\infinity} \frac{3^n}{n^3}$ is divergent? I have tried with comparison test, but I cannot find a divergent sequence that is smaller than this sequence.
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How to prove that $\sum_{n=1}^{\infinity} \frac{3^n}{n^3}$ is divergent? I have tried with comparison test, but I cannot find a divergent sequence that is smaller than this sequence.
```Compilation error:```! Undefined control sequence.
l.57 How to prove that $\sum_{n=1}^{\infinity
} \frac{3^n}{n^3}$ is divergent...
The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
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[1{/usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}]```
What is the limit of 3^n/n^3 as n goes to infinity?
Infinity
yeah, so would it be possible for the sum to converge?
No, but how can I prove it?
An infinite sum is the limit of a finite sum as the number terms goes to infinity
But the finite sum is always greater than its last term
and the last term already diverges, so there's no way the sum also converges
I think it's easier to use something like the nth root test or ratio test than construct a comparison here
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Have no idea how to do this
omg are these your sums? /j
For Riemann sum all I remember is x_k=a+k(delta x) and delta x=(b-a)/n
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How to complete this if I don’t know what f(t) is equal to?
F(x) is the area under the curve from 3 to x
the problems are set up so you wont need to know f exactly
remember that integrals consider area under the x-axis as negative
So is F(7) also 0?
Bc its symmetrical and cancels out?
yeah
For part c, F(0) and F(5) are positive, and F(8) is negative?
Oh its bc 0 is less than 3?
yes the integral from 3 to 0 is the opposite of the integral from 0 to 3
Ok thanks
Finished the rest, this correct?
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Could anyone help me understand how to solve this problem? I am being asked the following:For the function, let g(x,y,z) = xy^(2)+2z^(2). Compute the directional derivative at the point (1,1,0) for <u_1,u_2,u_3>.
just note that the x they use there is a vector
it is what you call (x,y,z)
v would be yourr u
right, but shouldn't I have been given values in that vector?
you have values
the definition right there gives you the directional derivative of f(x,y,z) at point (x,y,z) in the direction v
so instead of the x, you put in your r
afaik it should look like this
I'm a little lost....I haven't seen that formula before.
which formula did you use before?
Well, I know my first step is to find the partial derivatives with respect to x, y, and z. Doing so gets me y^2, x2y, and 4z, in which case I plug in my values for each one afterwards. Doing so, I get my gradient vector of <1,2,0>.
That's how I've always done it.
this is also right
I get the same for the gradient at that point. Since they don't give you the actual values for that vector I think you'd just give an answer in terms of u_1, u_2, and u_3
the thing i posted was the definition we used in class
what you do will lead you to the jacobian matrix where you use total differentiability
Yeah I’ve never used this or heard of it
it has some nice positive side effects, meaning you will only have to calculate the jacobian once if you need multiple directional derivatives
Where do I go from here tho?
directional derivative is the dot product of the gradient and the vector
this is what you want to do
you already know what u is
and Dg(r) is your jacobian, which is this thing
if you deal with vector valued function, this jacobian will become a matrix
here the D1g(r) is the partial derivative of g(x) with respect to x1 at r
like this
so the whole Dg(r) will be a horizontal vector with all your partial derivatives at the point r=(1,1,0)
So just apply the dot product on the gradient <1,2,0> and the vector given <u1,u2,u3>?
yes

For directional derivative problems, shouldn’t we be calculating magnitude of gradient vector at some point?
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Could I tell you answer?
sure
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How does the ASTC method in trig work, im strugglying to use it in equations
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how was the second line achieved?
multiplying both sides by (d-1)^2 and dividing both sides by 10, its valid as long as d isnt one
you would end up with $\frac{1}{10} > (d-1)^2$ but then they switched the inequality to keep the d's on the left i guess
Soosh
thanks
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yo wait my brain is lagging how did they isolate the x
its a propety of logarithms that log(x^y) = ylogx
Yeah I know that property
