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How should I begin to approach this problem?
distribute it out and then combine like terms
wait hang on
you're supposed to find $\f{f(x_2) - f(x_1)}{x_2 - x_1}$ here
hayley!
that's right
is that it?
yea
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what is the way to solve this
i keep getting wrong answers
first, you can remove the terms with the coefficients 0
oh wait, are you supposed to use matrices to solve it
no
i can remove the 0's i put them myself
this is a physics problem
but the math is the problem here
do you want to use matrices to solve it?
can you use equation systems?
you don’t have to
i tried to just solve for one and insert in the other
but that doesnt seem to get me anywhere
i rly only need to find either a or b, since they will be same number but with +/- and then i can find c right afterwards
a + c = 0
2a + b = 2
-a - b = 0
to strip away the unnecessary fluff
you get that b = c = -a from the first and last eqs
yes
you can get b and c in terms of a
and then you can substitute into the second equation
2a - a = 2 ...
2
You need to find the value of a, b and c?
yh
What is the value of a?
Then?
i can get it to work with algebra
You are correct
cant*
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You just used algebra to do it
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I do not know what it means by express roots in the form of a+-bsqrtc
have you solved it
well like i know how to solve it
it means exact form
wait what?
what do u mean by exact form fraction
Do u want me to solve it and let u know the answer?
Yes
My teacher asked me to use trial and error method for the first step to find one of the x value. But regardless of how many values I substitute I can't find the answer
Hint:||Try fractional values||
yeah i found it now -0.5
How can i find the value in first try itself?
Instead of multiple tries
there is no guarantee
then will i have to substituting millions of numbers to find the answer?
well for such questions, you need to test multiple values. Generally the roots are smaller numbers tho
yeah
not millions of numbers
it takes days to even count to a million
usually less than 4
its sarcasm man
okay
oh yeah
also guys
i am getting a remainder when im doing the polynominal long division
is it right or i am doing it wrong
@fathom drum ?
oops my bad
sorry to ping u
but pls answer me quick
thx
it’s ok, if I don’t respond, ping me
I may have forgotten
can you show your work
there u go
then the corresponding factor is x + 0.5, not x - 0.5
Yeah I noticed
ok i get a divisible answer of 2x^2+8x-18
previously i mistakened the +0.5 with -0.5
i'll proceed with the next step @fathom drum
OK so the next step I did was f(x)=(x+1/2)(2x^2+8x-18)
They're asking to solve so (x+1/2)=0 so x=-0.5
And for the step 2x^2+8x-18=0
I get 2 answers which are -2 -sqrt 13 and -2+sqrt 13
@fathom drum
Hello dude???
When solving quadratic equation
i get roots
@fathom drum
or someone please help me would be very glad
@fathom drum @fathom drum ??
@merry pythonHello?
guys i got all the answer but what is a+-b sqrt c
actually i found the answer
thanks
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Watch me do this and guide me, send a cat if i made a mistake
No.1
is d an increment number?
This is generating patterns
if so, 5+4*10
ok
if d is what i think
then you have to add it to a1 until u get to the n=11
or in other words do it ten times
it is 5, 9, 13, ....
a11 = 5 + (11-1)4
45
sure
🐱
Ok.. hint?
you multiply
-3*24
yes
yeah
Or i choose 19.5?
Ight 39/2
No.4
I already made it so that it's
a1=-10 ; d=4 ; n=27
-10 + (27-1)4
yeah
94
ye
🐱
Btu??
I got -10.5
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yea?
so yeah, I'm having a hard time doing this
right so (f o r)(1) is equal to f(r(1))
just go right to left
r(x) = x + 3
ur output of r(1) will be ur input for f(x)
then 2*4 - 1?
well, i got like
s/r = (x) = s (x) ÷ r (x)
= x² - 4x - 21
over
x +3
wait
i already got 10 😭
isn't f * r(x) = f(x) * r(x)?
(s/r)(x) is equal to s(x)/r(x)
yup
try factoring your numerator now
try middle term split
yes
$x^2 - 4x - 21$, split the middle term such that you have two numbers where $mn = -21$, and $m + n = -4$
then you can simplify afterwards
not simplify
i meant factor
taro
okay
lets
recall our monic factorising
do you know how to factorise monic trinomials?
its weird ur doing functions before quadratics ngl
but its okay
give me 30 secs ill find something that should help
oh
that multiplied to give 12
and added to give 7
then you can factor it from there
ur doing that here too
we have s(x)/f(x)
which we now have $\frac{x^2-4x-21}{x+3}$
taro
yes
So i have to
so i have to split it right
right so we have our factors (ur missing 21 but that won't matter)
one of our groups is 7 * 3
yeah sorry for not including that
hm
and it has to add to **-**4
7 * 3 = 21
7 - 3 = 4
so we have to make one of the terms negative
to satisfy both equations
so -7?
great
is that right?
okay okay
so i have to
taro
now we can group in pairs
actually ngl we can just skip the whole step
we have the two numbers
-7 and +3
i can just immediately factor in as so
$\frac{(x-7)(x+3)}{x+3}$
taro
now do you see a common term here
wait what 😭
im so sorry 😭
taro
yes
like what do they have in common
x
great
the variables right?
$\frac{x(x-7)+3x-21}{x+3}$
taro
uh
its not x this time
but theres something else they have in common
theyre both divisible by a number
that we can factor out
if i said
gosh
oh
now here
3
perfect
taro
so what we did
is factored the x from x^2 - 7x
then we factored the 3 from 3x - 21
okay i don't understand now
where'd u get lost
yup
we split into -7 and 3
which satifies the equations we need
-7 + 3 = -4
-7 * 3 = -21
which gave us this
then we factored the two left terms
then we factored the two right terms
so it's now splitting, into x² - 7 + 3x -21 right?
oh yeah sorry
yup
yup
x² - 7x --> factor the x --> x(x - 7)
+3x - 21 --> factor the 3 --> 3(x - 7)
you factored those pairs
no really I'm sorry
you take out a common term
its okay dont worry
do you know how to expand
like 3(x + 2)
for example
shitttt
okay
with the distributive property
essentially
u multiply the number outside of the bracket
with each term inside
so
3(x+2)
is saying
oh yeah
3 * x + 3 * 2 = 3x + 6
thats the distributive property
expanding brackets
now factorising
oh
taro
taro
then when i expand it
using the distributive property
i will get x * x
- x * -7
so i get x^2 - 7x
yee u get how factoring works now?
great so when i do the second one
3x - 21
i take out the common 3
$3(x-7)$
taro
then to test it, i can use the distributive property
which gives 3 * x - 3 * 7
so i get 3x - 21
which is what we started with
yep
$\frac{x(x-7)+3(x-7)}{x+3}$
now we got back to here, which was our $s(x)/f(x)$
taro
now
what im going to do next
is a bit confusing
what do you notice in common
with
x(x-7) and 3(x-7)
the 7
what else
and the variables
they both have what?
negative sign too
well yeah
now what im gonna do is
i can actually factor out the whole thing
i will factor the whole (x-7)
yeah cancel right?
nope ill factor it
think of $x^2 - 7x$, we factored the x, but in $x(x-7) + 3(x-7)$, i can factor the (x-7)
taro
taro
the two terms outside the bracket go into one bracket
then the (x-7) is factored out
it seems confusing
but as long as you know the process
its fine for now
THE MUCH EASIER WAY TO DO IT THOUGH
is
$\frac{x^2-4x-21}{x+3}$
taro
it does
yep
we can immediately put it in
as (x-7)(x+3)
we can skip all of the
factoring in pairs
and everything
so it's like
its fine if u dont necessarily understand how you can factor out the (x-7) but as long as u get the process its fine
anyway so now we have $\frac{(x+3)(x-7)}{x+3}$
taro
x+3 and the other one under it
great
so we have to cancel it right?
X-7
great
so that's the answer?
now because that was a lot of steps
or
ill quickly rundown what we did
what's a rundown
first we had $\frac{s}{r}(x)$ which we changed into $\frac{s(x)}{r(x)}$
taro
taro
we then factorised by splitting the middle term
which gave
$\frac{x(x-7)+3(x-7)}{x+3}$
taro
taro
can I right it down?
yeah
it's for my report tomorrow and yk, i need it
so i have to right it down like this right
mhm then next line we factored the x-7
so (x+3)(x-7)
yup
yep
okay onto the next one
#12
this one
not x anymore
it's now -4
so i have to substitute the x's to -4 right?
taro
which was this i believe from last question
yes
then all x
but the (x) is now -4
$\frac{(-4)^2-4(-4)-21}{(-4)+3}$
taro
remember that
a double negative
gives a positive
so instead of 16 - 16
it should be 16 + 16 (as 16 - - 16 is 16 + 16)
taro
it's not even that good handwriting
well, it's done now
thank you so much for your help!
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no worries happy to help :)
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For RSA since it's the product of two primes (the keys), phi(n)=(p-1)(q-1) where n=pq and p,q are prime
But it is indeed the totient function
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hi
What is the question originally
It's really unclear what you are trying to do there
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It's not really a question but is the correct answer for this b)n²
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im confused on number 2
Yeah you are just gonna simplify 2f(x) - 3g(x)
so i just need to distribute those numbers?
before subtraction both
Yes
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is this correct in assuming x_2 = s, x_5 = t, and x_6 = u?
or did I write the free variables incorrectly in general form?
i mean if your goal's to write down the general solution of this system then you haven't quite done so yet, for precisely one reason:
your expression for x_1 still has x_3 in it, which it shouldn't. and it's an easy fix.
yes I think what I am finding is that my answer for x_1 does not account for x_3
is that what you mean?
i just wanted you to substitute your expression for x_3 into that of x_1, and simplify
watching out for sign and arithmetic errors
OK thanks
im gonna take all this on faith.
hopefully this should work now, when I plug in the entries into the input boxes
i will give it a try
just be sure not to fuck up which coeffs go where, lol.
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i just need 1c
what is the half distance?
90
how
15*30/2
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Need some help with the first question, I’ve got up to turning it into the square root of 4x^3 but im stuck there
how did you get it to 4x^3?
what happens if you multiply ^3 with the ^1/2
Am I meant to do that?
yea you dont need to turn these into square root
does it tell you what to do next?
Tells me all the way to the answer, I’m just trying to make sense of the steps
This is the next step
I don’t understand why the base is 2
right ok, i guess thats a different way of doing it, sorry im not used to it that way
wall square root of 4 is 2
so the answer you should get it 2x^3/2 right?
But the square root is still there
Alright well if u know another way pls explain that because I don’t understand this one anyway
whats the next stop? does it still keep the square root with 2 ?
Sorry I confused myself, but the way we do it here is the rule (a^b)^c=a^b*c)
so the (4x^3)^1/2 would become 2x^{3/2}
I dont know why its keeping the square root there
Do yk how to use @twin meteor ?
I think so
Can u pls try it? I find it difficult to visualise things like that
I think its better someone else answer that uses the method you are using tho
Well I’ve never done this kind of question so I don’t have a method
That method was from Photomath
ok
Wait this is just the index law right?
Totalani
wops
ok
So where did the 3/2 come from?
so you use that rule to multiply the $$^3$$ with the $$^{1/2}$$
Totalani
and you get 3/2
yea you cant simplify beyond that
you could say 2x^{1.5} but thats the same thing
what answer do you get from the site?
yea I think it looks better
I think I understand that now but do you mind just helping with 1e) to check I understand it?
sure
Question 1 e
Is that the first thing to do?
(2^3 * x^3)^(1/3)
so $$(2^3*x^3)^{1/3}$$
?
Totalani
yea
So then 3 * 1/3?
yea on both
On the 2 and the x?
yea
The final answer is 2x?
thats what im getting yea
But the 3 and 1/3 kinda cancel out so if it had been ^1/2 would the answer be 2^3/2 * x^3/2?
Yh but it makes the answer quite simple so if it was 1/2 instead of 1/3 would the answer be what i said there?
if it was 1/2 and you multiplied with 3 you would get 3/2, im not sure I understand what you mean
Yeah you’d get 3/2 so how would you display that in your answer?
in this case its 1/3 so the answer is 1
which you dont need to write
and the answer should be just 2x
Yeah but if it had been 1/2 or anything that didn’t equal 1, how would I show it in an answer?
Cuz they won’t always equal 1
right
you could write ^3/2 or ^1,5
whats waht we got on the first question remember?
2x^3/2
So you’d only put it on the x?
Or would it be (2x)^3/2?
Ah ok
you already simplified the 2 from 4
my tip is to see the ^1/3 as how many times do I multiply to get that number
look at f
what number can you multiply itself 3 times to get 125?
5
yea
same with x^6
multiply x^2 3 times you get x^6
and that is the answer to f
5x^2
🙂
np good luck
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I NEED some assistance pls
Can you elaborate on convert 3 in terms of log pls
Easier method is take logx =t and log10 base x = 1/t
X is 10
oh right thats way easier
Ah yep I can’t do maths Sox
10^10 is very big
ah yes
I realised
Umm I though i was tripping out but isn’t it 10^x = 2 in exponential form
Or we aren’t looking into that
wait imma write it down coz base and stuff
Something like this?
And for the other one
yes
yes
So I just make 3 = log(1000)
but but
Yes?
So like Logb= t
this would basically become 5t=3+2t
it is....
Duck
Thanks man I’m ngl I have an exam in 5 hours and it’s 3 am and I didn’t do a single log homework that helped thanks
A 2 hour exam aswell but it’s fine
thanks again
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np
Lol
revise properties u will ace it
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Wait @tardy dagger
yes
Product rule yes?
So just times it
Or t again
No it’s not an equation
Nvm I just did it it’s simple
Mb for pinging you again
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is the first is wrong first of all
second is wrong as well
unsure about third yet
but lets see
i think theyre all wrong hence the red
I agree
oh or does the red just mean one in that group is wrong
either way this is just going to be arithmetic and sign errors
do them again slowly and carefully
otherwise ur multiplication is correct i believe
not for the second lets see
-45+15+64 is not equal to -30
but yeah its like what sigma said its simple arithmetic mistakes
just go over them slowly
i will leave the last one for you to attempt to debug and find the problem with
i should probably use calculator next time just to be sure i don't mess up
Always good practice to do arithmetic in your head regardless though
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Can you folks help with maple?
Why does my graph look so weird?
it is supposed to look like this
uh just plot in desmos
Both of the functions you're plotting have 1/0 discontinuities at roughly the same location
the functions are supposed to be identical?
I have to use maple, sadly
oh i forgot to include the functions for the last pic
sqrt(6) is an irrational, so you can't fully write it in decimal expansion, so the two functions would not be exactly equal
Yes, but that's not the point, I guess I didn't explain it well, first picture is me graphing two functions, second picture is the answer to the exercise graphing the same functions, but they look much different?
here are the functions graphed in the 2nd pic
Answer your question in desmos first
you want me to make the graphs in desmos?
Using Desmos helps to double check what's going on
so it looks like this one i guess
so it seems to me like something weird is going on with my maple
@glass jewel Has your question been resolved?
thats finite precision artifacts. You're zooming in way too much.
the exercise literally told me to zoom like this and in the solution to the exercise they zoom the same and it looks normal?
so like, it should be possible to zoom like that somehow?
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What is the exponential function formula for this f(x)
I cant put it correctly in desmos
thanks it works
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