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vale wave
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$3 m^4 n^9 \sqrt {5 m n}$

split heart
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3 is no longer squared. remember, you divide by 2 when you take them out

vale wave
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ah

twin meteorBOT
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Kingboo

vale wave
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so is that the answer?

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or is there more steps

split heart
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That's it. You can't simplify beyond that

vale wave
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brb then

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oh good it was right

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las tone

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last one

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then i gotta sleep

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@split heart

split heart
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You got this one

vale wave
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bottom is 9 ans 2

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oh wait

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latex is frac right

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for fraction

split heart
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\frac

vale wave
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ok

split heart
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\frac{numerator stuff}{denominator stuff}

vale wave
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$\sqrt\frac {16 * 2} {9 * 2}$

split heart
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Good!

vale wave
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OH IT WORKEd

split heart
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Do the numerator too

twin meteorBOT
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Kingboo

vale wave
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then

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idk

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4 and 3 go out

split heart
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yes, and then?

vale wave
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then its just 2.2

split heart
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You got something divided by itself

vale wave
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2/2*

split heart
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which is?

vale wave
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1

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so

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i have a 4 and a 3

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left

split heart
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4/3 yes

vale wave
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thats all?

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ok

split heart
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yeah! grats

vale wave
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hey could i dm you or just ping you whenever cuz i gotta sleep

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if you dont mind that is

split heart
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Just send me a message and I'll try to respond as quickly as I can. If I don't you can always post here

vale wave
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got it

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thanks for everything

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iron iris
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iron iris
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can someone help me with question 5?

shrewd zinc
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sure

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any guesses before starting?

iron iris
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[-4,-1]

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[-4,1]**

shrewd zinc
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is it continous at x=-1?

iron iris
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i dont know what discounitiy that would be

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if its open circle its not?

shrewd zinc
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continuity is just does function have a value at that point

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at x=-1 does it have a value?

iron iris
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i dont think so because the circle is open

shrewd zinc
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right, so it's not continouus there

iron iris
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what about at x=1

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is that a jump discounitity

shrewd zinc
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technically it might be called something different because open circles

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but yeah discontinous

grim juniper
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f(-1) is undefined, so how can it be continuous or not continuous there?

shrewd zinc
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yeah you're right

iron iris
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for the interval notation

shrewd zinc
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but not continous at least

iron iris
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whats the difference between [ and )

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[ (

shrewd zinc
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[ if function is contionus at the ending point

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( if not continous at ending point

iron iris
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ok so would [-4,-1) be correct

shrewd zinc
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yep

iron iris
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and then (-1,1)

shrewd zinc
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right

iron iris
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thank you @shrewd zinc

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are you still in school

shrewd zinc
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np

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yeah but taking a gap sem from uni

quiet hull
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Yo can I ask a question related to this?

shrewd zinc
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sure

quiet hull
shrewd zinc
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no idea xdbut idt anyone would care if you just called it jump discontinuity

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not that important imo

quiet hull
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ah i see

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thanks

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river kettle
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so im trying to solve sqrt(3)*tanx = -1 for 0<=x<=2pi

river kettle
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so far i have tanx = -1/sqrt(3)

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i ran that through my calculator and got -pi/6 as my base angle

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should i find where tan is positive

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if so its positive in first and third quadrants

small quarry
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bruh

river kettle
small quarry
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$\sqrt{3}\ tan(x) = -1$, $for\ 0\leq x\leq2\pi$

river kettle
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what

small quarry
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Better

river kettle
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bad tex

twin meteorBOT
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Fossil

small quarry
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BETTER

river kettle
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ok now what

small quarry
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first I suggest

paper depot
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$\sqrt{3} \tan(x) = -1$ for $0 \leq x \leq 2\pi$

twin meteorBOT
small quarry
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to put the sqrt 3 to RHS

paper depot
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(that will be all my input, do not try to rope me in)

river kettle
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lol

small quarry
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to dvide sqrt3 to the whole equation]

river kettle
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thats what i did

small quarry
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then use the identites

river kettle
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$\tan\left(x\right)=-\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}$

twin meteorBOT
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water beam

small quarry
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ys

river kettle
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since when did i need identities here

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i was thinking of

small quarry
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there's sqrt(3) in the denominator

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and what u should do

river kettle
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$\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{-1}{\sqrt{3}}\right)=-\frac{\pi}{6}$

twin meteorBOT
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water beam

small quarry
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NO

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or ys

river kettle
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what

small quarry
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somehow

river kettle
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wot

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my calculator is just built different

small quarry
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nvm u did right lol

river kettle
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it turns it into -pi/6

small quarry
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ys

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gd

river kettle
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ok

small quarry
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u learn ASTC?

river kettle
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yea

small quarry
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there's tangent

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with neg

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as u see, the quadrant I and III leads to tan(x) = +num

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and quadrant II and IV leads to tan(x) = -num

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u know that right?

river kettle
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yes tan is positive in quadrant 1 and 3

small quarry
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so ig u know how to do?

river kettle
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no lol

small quarry
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ok

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well

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u learn trigo identites like tan(theta + pi) = tan(theta) right?

river kettle
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i think i know how to add the angles to get to positive maybe

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so tan is -30 degrees basically

small quarry
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tan(pi - theta) = -tan(theta)

river kettle
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and we want to get to positive quadrant 1

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so we add 2pi to -pi/6 right

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$-\frac{\pi}{6}+2\pi$

twin meteorBOT
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water beam

small quarry
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huh

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no

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or ys somehow

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bruh

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when u do this kind of question

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leave the neg alone somehow

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the neg symbol just for quadrant thing

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So let me explain how I do

river kettle
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ok

small quarry
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first u know there's -pi/6

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then the angle must be in quad II or IV

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therefore, pi - pi/6

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cuz if I did this the angle will leave it in quadrant II (I mean I memroize this for ezier, techniqely is not true, lol)

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and there's other angle left on quad IV

river kettle
small quarry
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ok

obtuse sierra
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-pi/6 is just 11pi/6

small quarry
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ys

river kettle
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its to get back to positive right

river kettle
small quarry
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ys

obtuse sierra
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- means we are taking the angle in a clockwise sense

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so -pi/6 lies in fourth quadrant

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which is just 2pi - pi/6

small quarry
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I would simply like 3pi/2 + pi/6

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just ye

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I used to

river kettle
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wait so like this ?

obtuse sierra
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correct

river kettle
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so thats where one solution is

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-pi/6 + 2pi

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what about the other one

small quarry
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ye

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I alr told

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pi - pi/6

river kettle
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why do we do that?

small quarry
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Dyssrupt, ur time to explain

twin meteorBOT
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Dyssrupt

obtuse sierra
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you know that tan(pi/6) is 1/sqrt(3) right?

river kettle
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yeah

obtuse sierra
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and see what you get

river kettle
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5pi/6

obtuse sierra
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and the rhs?

river kettle
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uh

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= tanx?

obtuse sierra
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the right hand side is -tan(x)

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sub x = pi/6 there too

obtuse sierra
river kettle
river kettle
obtuse sierra
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then trigonometry's gonna be hell

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these are the basics

river kettle
obtuse sierra
river kettle
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like you know how i showed adding 2pi got to quadrant 1

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can you show what subtracting pi does

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doesnt that get me more negative angles

obtuse sierra
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Sorry, I dont have a means to draw rn, but you can look up for 'reduction formulas of trigonometry' and maybe learn from there.

river kettle
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is it like this?

river kettle
small quarry
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huh

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am doing limit thing, lol

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wassup

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how is it?

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I bet he's explain it better than me

small quarry
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State ur problem

river kettle
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i donto understand the -pi and why we do it

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why we subtract pi from pi/6

small quarry
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pi - pi/6

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u mean this?

river kettle
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yes

small quarry
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oh

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ok let me explain

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Btw

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I want to ask u someth'in tho, lol

river kettle
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ok

small quarry
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how to get the active role and helpful role, lol

river kettle
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for active just talk a lot in the server

small quarry
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I talk a lot, lol

river kettle
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and helpful idk i think you have to help quite a lot of people before you get it

small quarry
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ok

river kettle
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like you need a lot of messages i think

small quarry
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so umm...

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well

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u need to know sin cos and tan is simply a triangle

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all the things we did is just triangle ratio

small quarry
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let me show u someth'in

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This is how the thing works

river kettle
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yeah

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whats this part

small quarry
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the triangle I mentioned

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sin cos and tan is trigo ratio

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ratio

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as u see in the graph shown

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that

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when an triangle rotate 180 degree (which is pi in radian, lol)

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the x and y become neg

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when u apply the x' and y' (x' means new x which is -x, y is the same), u get -sin theta

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Tha'ts how all the thing works

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all about trigo and degree or radian, is about rotating

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the change of x and y

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the reflection (kinda)

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u get it now?

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the basic concept

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or let me do a conclusion

river kettle
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hmmmm

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ok

small quarry
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what really makes sin or cos or even tan, become neg or change it state

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is x and y

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whehter x is neg or pos

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y either

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Basic concept conclusion

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u get it?

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(about changing state, I can dm u if u want to learn)

river kettle
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so how does this tell us to add or subtract pi?

small quarry
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So, u look at ur answer of tan is neg

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which means x or y is neg

river kettle
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yes

small quarry
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the main problem: what makes x or y become neg

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the rotation

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but how we rotate to let x or y become neg

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ofc we can't let x and y both neg cuz u know tan = y/x

small quarry
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therefore, we found that when the angle rotate to quad II

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or I should say reflect

river kettle
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i dont know why i put pi/6 as positive i just pretended it was positive

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then subtract pi to get to q3

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but wait

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that would get me to quadrant 2

small quarry
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well

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we need to use the thing we got before

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pi - theta = pi + (- theta)

small quarry
river kettle
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Yes

small quarry
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I mean not really, since the -30 is correct

small quarry
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so u should use -theta to rotate and NOT using the +theta to rotate

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understand?

river kettle
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hmmm

river kettle
small quarry
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wdym

small quarry
river kettle
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hm

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wait

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if i graph

small quarry
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Why u use this stupid graph

river kettle
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whatt!!!

small quarry
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Circle can explain everything

small quarry
river kettle
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i dont understand rotating thing

river kettle
small quarry
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HUH

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What u can't understand

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tell me

river kettle
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i dont understand how to rotate

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the thing

small quarry
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I alr explain

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to u

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Let me take u step by step

river kettle
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Ok

small quarry
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do u understand the basic concept?

river kettle
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of ?

small quarry
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BRUH

river kettle
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of the circle?

small quarry
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I did the conclusion

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read it in every sentence

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and don't lie to me

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understand or not

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it's ok to be not understand

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just tell me what u can't understand if u can't understand

river kettle
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Okay hold on

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i dont understand when you say it change state

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so if sin or cos is negative then tan is negative yes i get that

small quarry
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Cuz changing state is another concept, but it still about rotating

small quarry
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How u made that conclusion

river kettle
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because

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tan is sin/cos yes

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and if sin negative then

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-sin/cos = -tan

small quarry
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oh ys, i read wrong, lol

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nvm ur correct

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so any thing u can't understand?

river kettle
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ok i think that part is ok

small quarry
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So next

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about the rotation

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Do u understand how rotation affects x and y?

river kettle
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No

small quarry
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Did u see the triangle

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do u see how it changes

river kettle
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yes

small quarry
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So now do u understand how it works?

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How the rotation affects x and y

river kettle
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so rotation makes x and y negative

small quarry
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ys

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it can change the pos and neg of x and y

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understand?

river kettle
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yes

small quarry
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Gd

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Then head back to the problem

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pi - theta

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pi - theta = pi + (-theta)

small quarry
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understand?

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the theta is 30 degree

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?

river kettle
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I thought it -30

small quarry
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The degree is -30

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then u rotate is with 180

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just simple is that

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u fully understand now?

river kettle
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so -30 + 180?

small quarry
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ys

river kettle
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so + 180 gets to quadrant 3?

small quarry
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NO

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because it's -30

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u can draw the figure

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it stays at quad 2

river kettle
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are we trying to find solution in quadrant 3

small quarry
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NO

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Why in quad III

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tan in quad III is pos

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turn the line, 180 degree

river kettle
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so are we trying to find solution where tan is negative

small quarry
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YES

small quarry
river kettle
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like this?

small quarry
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.

river kettle
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yes

small quarry
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Wrong

small quarry
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The rotation must be anticlowise

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cuz u have +180 not -180

river kettle
small quarry
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YS GD

river kettle
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Ok but i have question

small quarry
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so

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ys ask

river kettle
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im confused. So we added 2pi onto -30 which was $-\frac{\pi}{6}+2\pi=\frac{11\pi}{6}$. But this is in quadrant 1 isnt it and tan is positive in quadrant 1

twin meteorBOT
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water beam

river kettle
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and we want to find where tan is negative yes

small quarry
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NO

river kettle
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

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BUTTTTTTTTTTT YOU SAYYYYYYY WE WANT TAN NEGATIVEEEE NOWWW WE WANTTTT POSITIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

small quarry
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Bruh, that's why I said the formula which dessrupt tought is not gd at all

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cuz it will makes a guy like u messy

river kettle
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so sad

small quarry
river kettle
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what quadrant it get me to

small quarry
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4

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Let me explain it to u

river kettle
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ok

small quarry
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First of all

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do u know why we need to have pi - 30?

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Do u understand

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@river kettle

river kettle
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?

small quarry
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Do u understand why we need quad 2 to have -tan

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Yes or no

river kettle
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because our solution is $\tan x=-\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}$ meaning tan has to be negative

twin meteorBOT
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water beam

small quarry
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.

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am asking u do u understand why quad 2 can make tan become neg

river kettle
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yes because in quadrant 2 only sine is positive meaning rest is negative

small quarry
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.

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Because the x and y

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bruh

river kettle
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yes thats what i just said

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bruh bruh bruh

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sine is positive meaning rest is negative

small quarry
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ok i bet u understand here

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and let me introduce how I manage to complete the second answer

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about the changing state

river kettle
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Ok

small quarry
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This is the changing state

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tan -> cot, sin -> cos, cos -> sin

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All is x and y

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More clear explination

small quarry
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Sorry for that Dyssrupt

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lol

obtuse sierra
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lmao

small quarry
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u appear again

obtuse sierra
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i sullied for dessrupt

small quarry
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I gtg

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I let u explain

obtuse sierra
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nah, im busy lol

river kettle
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Ok wait

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i think i figured it out

river kettle
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ruby ocean
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ruby ocean
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can someone answer this?

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this question is basically asking the infinite integer progression sum of n/(2^n)

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@ruby ocean Has your question been resolved?

flat whale
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Usual way is to consider the series of 1/(1-x) and differentiate

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,tex .maclaurin

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vast shale
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Why did they not consider the horizontal component?

vast shale
obtuse sierra
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they cancel each other.

vast shale
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I don’t understand

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Ohhhhh

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I get it

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Thank you so much

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tired raptor
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⟨√11⟩^5 guys sorry how do I do this

split heart
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what's with the brackets?

tired raptor
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idk

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(√11)^5

split heart
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Oh, ok. So what's the issue here?

tired raptor
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I need to rewrite this using a rational exponent notation

split heart
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Gotcha

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So are you familiar with what the square root sign does?

tired raptor
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no

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i mean

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yes

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idk what do do with it on this equation t ho

split heart
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First of all there's no equation there

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But more to the point, can you convert the square root into a rational exponent?

tired raptor
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⟨√11⟩^5

split heart
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Ignore that for now

tired raptor
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how do I convert into a rational exponent

split heart
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I'm asking you if I gave you the expression sqrt(x). How can you rewrite that as an exponent of x

tired raptor
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X divided by 1 over 2

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?

split heart
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do you mean x/2 or x^(1/2) ?

tired raptor
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the second one mybad

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X to the power of 1/x

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?

split heart
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Okay. So you know that square roots turn to powers of 1/2

tired raptor
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wait stop

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wait

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X to the power of 1/2

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is that right?

split heart
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Yes

tired raptor
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alr

split heart
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$\sqrt x = x^\frac{1}{2}$

twin meteorBOT
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TooManyCooks

tired raptor
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split heart
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Now. Are you familiar with the properties of exponents?

tired raptor
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yes

split heart
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Good. So if I give you x^a * x^b, what do you get?

tired raptor
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x^ab?

split heart
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Not quite

tired raptor
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but if u have the same base dont u just add exponents

split heart
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Precisely

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But you multiplied

tired raptor
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x^a+b

split heart
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Yes that's right

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Now your question involves powers of exponentials

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$(x^a)^b$

tired raptor
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ohhh

twin meteorBOT
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TooManyCooks

tired raptor
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now I get it

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11^1/2 times ^5/5

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?

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11^11/2?

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is that the answer

split heart
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Uh, what

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Slow down

tired raptor
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like

split heart
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What does (x^a)^b give you?

tired raptor
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x^ab

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ohh so u multiply this time

split heart
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Cool. Now you have a = 1/2 and b = 5

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So what do you get?

tired raptor
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alr lemme see

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11^5/2?

split heart
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That's right!

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Is that the answer you're looking for?

tired raptor
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i think so ye

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thank u bro

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main ferry
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why doesnt this work

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split heart
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properties of log

main ferry
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yes i watched that

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how is this not correct

split heart
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why is x in the exponent

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or am i tripping

river minnow
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Yeah don't put the expressions that high

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And who's telling you that 2ln(x) = ln(x) + ln(x) is wrong?

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Or any of those steps

main ferry
split heart
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Who said it was wrong?

main ferry
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markscheme

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also this person

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the answer is supposed to be 2ln(y)

river minnow
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Well ln(y^2) is the same as 2ln(y)

main ferry
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yes

outer warren
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who's work in black

split heart
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They did algebra wrong

main ferry
split heart
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Friend is wrong

outer warren
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they fked up their algebra

main ferry
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ahh thank u can u tell me where they went wrong

outer warren
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$-p-q \redneq -(p-q)$

split heart
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$-\log x^2 y^2 - \log y^3 = - \log x^2 y^5$

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ℝam()n()v

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ok thanks guys!

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Could someone show how they get 21.44 centimeters from 18.20(3pi/8)

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they dont really explain anywhere how they got to this number

livid tapir
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Units are cus 18.20 is in cm

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Oh hold up lol you want more than that

snow moth
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gonna just assume the answer is what the calculator shows cause my cats decided to hide the calculator

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somehow

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when i did it on the pc calc i just got something terribly diffgerent

livid tapir
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Weird

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I haven't actually out it in but it's about 9/8*18 so it looked roughly right to me

snow moth
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found the calculator actually and yah got it

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i was replacing pi with 180 cause earlier to find radians it said u could do that

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but with this i guess u cannot

livid tapir
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Oh 💀

snow moth
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i do not like trig

livid tapir
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dw there's worse things out there :p

snow moth
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ANYWAYS thank u for the help lol

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im sure there is

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Np

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i cannot wait

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So i got how the solutions did the equations

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And I was able to work it out myself

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I just dont understand how the units changed from minutes to hours

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Because when we plugged in t = 10, units were minutes

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Then the final answer became hours

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yea there's no way the answer is 3.654 hours, if more than half of the radon has decayed after 10 minutes

karmic glen
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Yeah.. so it should be minutes right?

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But it looks like the work is right

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yea the work looks fine, they just got the units wrong

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i dont even know where to start with this one

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Hm

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How can I solve sin(x/3) = 1/sqrt(2)

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river kettle
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without the unit circle

obtuse sierra
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do you know when sinx = 1/sqrt(2)?

river kettle
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Wait

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1/sqrt(2) is pi/4?

obtuse sierra
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x is pi/4

trail mesa
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So that means sine of 1/sqrt(2) = pi/4 right

river kettle
obtuse sierra
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sin(pi/4) = 1/sqrt(2)

river kettle
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so sin(x) = 1sqrt(2) = sin(pi/4)

obtuse sierra
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yes

river kettle
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okay

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And solutions are when sinx>0 so that’s in Q1,Q2

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So our first solution is pi/4 and the second will be pi - pi/4 ?

obtuse sierra
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correct

river kettle
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so pi/4, 3pi/4

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Then x/3 = pi/4, 3pi/4 and I just solve for x

trail mesa
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now might be a good time time to add on the $+2k\pi$

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lpieleanu

obtuse sierra
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I think they need principal values

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or no?

river kettle
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oh yeah well this was actually just part of another question I’m solving

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but my original domain for the equation was between -pi<=x<=pi

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anyways I got x = 3pi/4, 9pi/4

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@obtuse sierra how about solving for sin(-pi/4) between -pi to pi

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The solution I’m looking at just has the same one as positive pi/4 but with a negative sign

obtuse sierra
river kettle
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What

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That’s what I typed

obtuse sierra
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typo

river kettle
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What

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I’m correct

obtuse sierra
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pi/4 and 3pi/4

river kettle
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How

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x/3 = pi/4 , 3pi/4

obtuse sierra
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oh lmao

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it was x/3

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sorry mb

river kettle
obtuse sierra
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-1/sqrt(2)

river kettle
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yeah

obtuse sierra
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oh you want sin(x) = -1/sqrt(2)

river kettle
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Well technically

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sin(x/3)

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But yeah

obtuse sierra
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just go anticlockwise

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as the domain is -pi to pi

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you can now include negative angle (not negative really)

river kettle
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so i just have to add on a minus sign

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?

obtuse sierra
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yeah

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as sinx is an odd function, so sin(-x) = -sin(x)

river kettle
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okay

river kettle
obtuse sierra
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wdym

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what trick?

river kettle
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the negative trick where you just slap on a minus sign

obtuse sierra
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yeah odd functions

river kettle
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So even if the restriction wasn’t for -pi to pi

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it would still work?

river kettle
obtuse sierra
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yeah cuz f(-x) = -f(x), so adding a minus sign, will yield a negative result of the original.

river kettle
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So like if I have sin(x) = 1/2 which is pi/6, it will have a negative solution -pi/6 as well?

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back

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lol

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For ii), the hint was that I needed to take the derivative of the function. But, what does it mean when deals with the "max"

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This is what I have with the hints we were given in class

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derivatives are intimately tied with maximums and minumums

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if a function has a local max or min at a point not on its boundary then the first derivative must be zero at that point

solid mist
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So do I just need to show that f'(x)=0? Or more specifically do i need to find the x that makes f'(x)=0?

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yes precisely

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the sign of the second derivative will tell you if its a max or min

solid mist
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Do I use f(x)=1/sqrt(2pisigma?

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or do I need to use the original pdf?

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the actual function f(x)

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when they write $\operatorname{max}_{x \in \mathbb{R}} f(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi\sigma}}$

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ΣΑCu

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they mean, the maximum value that the function f can achieve across all x values in R, is 1/sqrt(2pisigma)

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Alright, thank you for the helpful hints! I will come back if I get stuck, but I think I need to start with just taking the first derivative and go from there. Thanks again!! 🙂

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I dont understand specifically after they obtained the individual values of Q's

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can anyone explain?

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i.e. -15Q(2) = -2a --> Q(2) = -2*315/(-15)

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are you asking how they got the original values for Q?

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i think the answer is 23 i used scale factors im pterry sure theres a typo on the techers side im trnna to help my brother with his homework this was the only quston that was hard for him

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r the diagrams similar?

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as in are the ratios the same?

reef delta
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the quston that the website gave was "Two scale drawings of the same cathedral are shown. Look carefully at the dimensions of the drawings. What is the height of the cathedral on the right?"

willow hill
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i got 35

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can u show me ur working for how u got 23?

reef delta
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so

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what i did was

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15 - 6 to get 9

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so i did 14 +9

willow hill
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it doesnt work like that

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the ratio of the sides are the same

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so, 6:15 is the ratio for the base

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therefore, use the same ratio for the height

reef delta
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ohh i get it now

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seems like this person finished his question anyway, so if u dont mind u can continue explaining

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Bit of a long shot, but does anyone know where I went wrong here?

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<@&286206848099549185> Anyone know "basic" cal 2?

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Oh my gosh

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damn

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how to calculate t hi s?

zealous nova
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thats negative e in the front?

zealous nova
twin citrus
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r is positive

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and it is not e

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it us just a positive constant c

vast shale
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R also a constant?

zealous nova
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yea

twin citrus
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this is origial task

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this is wolframalphas answer

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which i have no idea what is

zealous nova
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use exponent property?

twin citrus
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and thai is desmos graph of similat function

zealous nova
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log(a^b) is b loga

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and then

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limit can get into the logs parenthesis

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correct

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(r/R)^((r/R)^2)

zealous nova
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y

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limit can jump into the inside of the logarithm ryt

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e ln( lim x^x^2)

twin citrus
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ok

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what next?

twin citrus
zealous nova
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so...

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x^2 is a lot greater than x

twin citrus
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yes

zealous nova
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wait

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wait im not rly sure

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what to do

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someone else will help

twin citrus
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any chance to use lhopital rule here because this chapter is about that rule ?

zealous nova
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denominator is 1

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differentiating that gives u 0

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again p/0 issues

twin citrus
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apply exponent rules i know but apply the limit chain rule i do mot get how to do

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how to solve this ?

paper depot
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did you maybe mean $\int_1^x \sqrt{t^2 - 1} \dd{t}$?

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paper depot
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as-is the notation is incorrect

twin citrus
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i need to find untegral from 1 to some x under this parabole ( x^2-y^2=1) curve

paper depot
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that is a hyperbola, not a parabola.

twin citrus
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yy

paper depot
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is y = why or is y = yes?

twin citrus
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yes

paper depot
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right

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so you want to find the shaded area, yes?

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which is a triangle minus that integral...

twin citrus
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yes originally i want that

paper depot
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ok right

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so you do want $\int_1^x \sqrt{t^2 - 1} \dd{t}$.

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paper depot
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probably some kind of trig sub like t = 1/cos(phi) would help.

twin citrus
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but i do not understand why you untroduced t while the curve equation is y=sqrt(x^2-1)

paper depot
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you cannot have x appear both in the limits of integration and as the integration variable.

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i.e. $\int_1^x (...) \dd{x} = {}$ not kosher.

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twin citrus
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ok then lets change opper x and call a

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this is more exapteble for me

paper depot
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exapteble?

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oh you meant acceptable

twin citrus
paper depot
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so you want $\int_1^a \sqrt{x^2 - 1} \dd{x}$.

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paper depot
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my point still stands:

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trigonometric substitution

twin citrus
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sey for my english witing skills

paper depot
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x = 1/cos(phi)

twin citrus
paper depot
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a substitution

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read up on "trigonometric substitutions"

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paul's online math notes has it

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i think

twin citrus
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idk who is paul but i found that concept in my book as well

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so i need to learn that first yes ?

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in order to find that integral

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twin citrus
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ok then i will leave it as it is for now and will try to solve the problem after i will read that

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if something will come back for seeking help

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how can i simplify this?

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split heart
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can you factor something in the numerator?

rain glacier
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for 6 and 24?

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umm...

merry python
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cute

gritty zenith
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<@&268886789983436800> 😊

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do not spam.

split heart
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<@&268886789983436800>

gritty zenith
rain glacier
strong grove
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see if there is a number that is factor to both 6 and 24

heavy flare
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yeah first do that

rain glacier
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isn't the number for 6 and 24, 6 as well?

strong grove
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yes

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take it out and see what u are left

gritty zenith
rain glacier
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x^2

gritty zenith
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-24/6 is what?

rain glacier
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-4

gritty zenith
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Great

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So you have 6(x^2-4)

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Does this ring any bell?

rain glacier
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ohh, so i have to put the common factor outside the parenthesis, then put the factored numbers or variables inside ?

rain glacier
strong grove
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when u have a common factor u have to place it outside the parenthesis

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this is because patenthesis means multiplying and the number outside mulitplied with inside results the same thing so u arent changing anything

gritty zenith
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%^^

gritty zenith
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You might be asking where the second square is

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4 = 2^2

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So you have 6(x^2-2^2)

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Now I’m assuming you don’t know what this is

rain glacier
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i don't ;-; sorry

gritty zenith
rain glacier
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resulting in (x+2)(x-2)?

gritty zenith
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yes correct ✅

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So what will you have as the numerator

rain glacier
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6(x+2)(x-2)?

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what about the denominator?

gritty zenith
elder geyser
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can someone help me

gritty zenith
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Please find a different channel

elder geyser
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oh sorry

rain glacier
gritty zenith
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Yes!

rain glacier
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i have a question, when scenario can i only use the difference of squares?

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because in multiplication of functions, i just substituded and distributed

gritty zenith
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When you have 2 squares that are being subtracted from each other then you can apply it

rain glacier
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can you give me an example.. i don't seen to understand in words alone.. sorry 🥲

gritty zenith
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(x^2-1)

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Can you apply it here?

rain glacier
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would that be (x^2+1) and (x^2-1)?

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or will it be 1/2?

gritty zenith
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no

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the x^2 becomes just x

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Ignore the exponent

rain glacier
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then (x+1)(x-1)?

gritty zenith
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Yes!

rain glacier
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so i have 6(x+2)(x-2) / (x+2)(x-2)

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do i cancel out the like terms?

gritty zenith
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Yes

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Correct

rain glacier
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and all i would have left is 6?

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is that the answer?

gritty zenith
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Yes

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Perfect!

rain glacier
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okay.. thank youuuuu!

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how do i determine the value of a b c and d in "(ax^2+bx+c)/(x+d)" using a graph programme like geogebra?

hard hawk
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knowing that the x asymptote is -1

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and that f(x) is more than or equals zero when x [-2,-1) and [2->

paper depot
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[2->
what does this mean

hard hawk
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two and more

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so from 2 onwards x is positive

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d is obviously 1

paper depot
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anyway idk how to use geogebra to determine your stuff

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but it would not be hard to do by hand

hard hawk
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yeah obviously, but the exercise wants me to use a digital tool

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alternatively i could use a calculator programme

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but what is it called when you find out values of a function's coefficients like that? extrapolation?

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