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3 is no longer squared. remember, you divide by 2 when you take them out
ah
Kingboo
That's it. You can't simplify beyond that
brb then
oh good it was right
las tone
last one
then i gotta sleep
@split heart
You got this one
\frac
ok
\frac{numerator stuff}{denominator stuff}
$\sqrt\frac {16 * 2} {9 * 2}$
Good!
OH IT WORKEd
Do the numerator too
Kingboo
yes, and then?
then its just 2.2
You got something divided by itself
2/2*
which is?
4/3 yes
yeah! grats
hey could i dm you or just ping you whenever cuz i gotta sleep
if you dont mind that is
Just send me a message and I'll try to respond as quickly as I can. If I don't you can always post here
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can someone help me with question 5?
is it continous at x=-1?
continuity is just does function have a value at that point
at x=-1 does it have a value?
i dont think so because the circle is open
right, so it's not continouus there
technically it might be called something different because open circles
but yeah discontinous
f(-1) is undefined, so how can it be continuous or not continuous there?
yeah you're right
for the interval notation
but not continous at least
ok so would [-4,-1) be correct
yep
and then (-1,1)
right
Yo can I ask a question related to this?
sure
What would this be called?
no idea xdbut idt anyone would care if you just called it jump discontinuity
not that important imo
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so im trying to solve sqrt(3)*tanx = -1 for 0<=x<=2pi
so far i have tanx = -1/sqrt(3)
i ran that through my calculator and got -pi/6 as my base angle
should i find where tan is positive
if so its positive in first and third quadrants
bruh
what do you mean bruh
$\sqrt{3}\ tan(x) = -1$, $for\ 0\leq x\leq2\pi$
what
Better
bad tex
Fossil
BETTER
ok now what
first I suggest
$\sqrt{3} \tan(x) = -1$ for $0 \leq x \leq 2\pi$
Ann
to put the sqrt 3 to RHS
(that will be all my input, do not try to rope me in)
lol
to dvide sqrt3 to the whole equation]
thats what i did
better than mine, lol
then use the identites
$\tan\left(x\right)=-\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}$
water beam
ys
$\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{-1}{\sqrt{3}}\right)=-\frac{\pi}{6}$
water beam
what
somehow
nvm u did right lol
it turns it into -pi/6
ok
u learn ASTC?
yea
there's tangent
with neg
as u see, the quadrant I and III leads to tan(x) = +num
and quadrant II and IV leads to tan(x) = -num
u know that right?
so ig u know how to do?
no lol
i think i know how to add the angles to get to positive maybe
so tan is -30 degrees basically
tan(pi - theta) = -tan(theta)
and we want to get to positive quadrant 1
so we add 2pi to -pi/6 right
$-\frac{\pi}{6}+2\pi$
water beam
huh
no
or ys somehow
bruh
when u do this kind of question
leave the neg alone somehow
the neg symbol just for quadrant thing
So let me explain how I do
ok
first u know there's -pi/6
then the angle must be in quad II or IV
therefore, pi - pi/6
cuz if I did this the angle will leave it in quadrant II (I mean I memroize this for ezier, techniqely is not true, lol)
and there's other angle left on quad IV
wait hold on pause
ok
ys
i had a hunch to add 2pi but could you tell me exactly why we do that
its to get back to positive right
is this for when tan is negative
ys
- means we are taking the angle in a clockwise sense
so -pi/6 lies in fourth quadrant
which is just 2pi - pi/6
wait so like this ?
correct
why do we do that?
Dyssrupt, ur time to explain
Dyssrupt
you know that tan(pi/6) is 1/sqrt(3) right?
yeah
5pi/6
and the rhs?
btw you know this, right?
not really ive seen it before but i dont really understand it well
do you think you could show me graphically here
what do you want me to show?
like you know how i showed adding 2pi got to quadrant 1
can you show what subtracting pi does
doesnt that get me more negative angles
Sorry, I dont have a means to draw rn, but you can look up for 'reduction formulas of trigonometry' and maybe learn from there.
help lol
huh
am doing limit thing, lol
wassup
how is it?
I bet he's explain it better than me
yes
ok
how to get the active role and helpful role, lol
for active just talk a lot in the server
I talk a lot, lol
and helpful idk i think you have to help quite a lot of people before you get it
ok
like you need a lot of messages i think
so umm...
well
u need to know sin cos and tan is simply a triangle
all the things we did is just triangle ratio
and we present the trigo identies with coor
let me show u someth'in
This is how the thing works
the triangle I mentioned
sin cos and tan is trigo ratio
ratio
as u see in the graph shown
that
when an triangle rotate 180 degree (which is pi in radian, lol)
the x and y become neg
when u apply the x' and y' (x' means new x which is -x, y is the same), u get -sin theta
Tha'ts how all the thing works
all about trigo and degree or radian, is about rotating
the change of x and y
the reflection (kinda)
u get it now?
the basic concept
or let me do a conclusion
what really makes sin or cos or even tan, become neg or change it state
is x and y
whehter x is neg or pos
y either
Basic concept conclusion
u get it?
(about changing state, I can dm u if u want to learn)
so how does this tell us to add or subtract pi?
yes
the main problem: what makes x or y become neg
the rotation
but how we rotate to let x or y become neg
ofc we can't let x and y both neg cuz u know tan = y/x
cuz as u see this, if x and y become -y, -x, tan still positive
therefore, we found that when the angle rotate to quad II
or I should say reflect
?
i dont know why i put pi/6 as positive i just pretended it was positive
then subtract pi to get to q3
but wait
that would get me to quadrant 2
This is wrong
Yes
I mean not really, since the -30 is correct
as u see there's a -theta
so u should use -theta to rotate and NOT using the +theta to rotate
understand?
hmmm
where u get this property from
wdym
Clue 1
Clue 2
Why u use this stupid graph
whatt!!!
Circle can explain everything
This graph will make u being stupid
i dont understand rotating thing
😦
Ok
do u understand the basic concept?
of ?
BRUH
THIS
of the circle?
I did the conclusion
read it in every sentence
and don't lie to me
understand or not
it's ok to be not understand
just tell me what u can't understand if u can't understand
Okay hold on
i dont understand when you say it change state
so if sin or cos is negative then tan is negative yes i get that
Ys I will explain later if u want, I can dm u
Cuz changing state is another concept, but it still about rotating
HUH
How u made that conclusion
ok i think that part is ok
No
yes
so rotation makes x and y negative
yes
Which just like the -30 in this figure
understand?
the theta is 30 degree
?
I thought it -30
The degree is -30
then u rotate is with 180
just simple is that
u fully understand now?
so -30 + 180?
ys
so + 180 gets to quadrant 3?
so are we trying to find solution where tan is negative
YES
This is what u calculate
like this?
.
yes
Wrong
U clearly don't know how it works
The rotation must be anticlowise
cuz u have +180 not -180
YS GD
Ok but i have question
im confused. So we added 2pi onto -30 which was $-\frac{\pi}{6}+2\pi=\frac{11\pi}{6}$. But this is in quadrant 1 isnt it and tan is positive in quadrant 1
water beam
and we want to find where tan is negative yes
NO
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
BUTTTTTTTTTTT YOU SAYYYYYYY WE WANT TAN NEGATIVEEEE NOWWW WE WANTTTT POSITIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Bruh, that's why I said the formula which dessrupt tought is not gd at all
cuz it will makes a guy like u messy
so sad
This formula won't make u to quad 1
what quadrant it get me to
ok
First of all
do u know why we need to have pi - 30?
Do u understand
@river kettle
because our solution is $\tan x=-\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}$ meaning tan has to be negative
water beam
yes because in quadrant 2 only sine is positive meaning rest is negative
yes thats what i just said
bruh bruh bruh
sine is positive meaning rest is negative
ok i bet u understand here
and let me introduce how I manage to complete the second answer
about the changing state
Ok
This is the changing state
tan -> cot, sin -> cos, cos -> sin
All is x and y
More clear explination

lmao
u appear again
i sullied for dessrupt
nah, im busy lol
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can someone answer this?
this question is basically asking the infinite integer progression sum of n/(2^n)
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@ruby ocean Has your question been resolved?
Yes this sum is finite
Usual way is to consider the series of 1/(1-x) and differentiate
,tex .maclaurin
riemann
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Why did they not consider the horizontal component?
they cancel each other.
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⟨√11⟩^5 guys sorry how do I do this
what's with the brackets?
Oh, ok. So what's the issue here?
I need to rewrite this using a rational exponent notation
First of all there's no equation there
But more to the point, can you convert the square root into a rational exponent?
⟨√11⟩^5
Ignore that for now
how do I convert into a rational exponent
I'm asking you if I gave you the expression sqrt(x). How can you rewrite that as an exponent of x
do you mean x/2 or x^(1/2) ?
Okay. So you know that square roots turn to powers of 1/2
Yes
alr
$\sqrt x = x^\frac{1}{2}$
TooManyCooks
✅
Now. Are you familiar with the properties of exponents?
yes
Good. So if I give you x^a * x^b, what do you get?
x^ab?
Not quite
but if u have the same base dont u just add exponents
x^a+b
ohhh
TooManyCooks
like
What does (x^a)^b give you?
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why doesnt this work
properties of log
Yeah don't put the expressions that high
And who's telling you that 2ln(x) = ln(x) + ln(x) is wrong?
Or any of those steps
then this should be correct
Who said it was wrong?
Well ln(y^2) is the same as 2ln(y)
yes
who's work in black
They did algebra wrong
friend
Friend is wrong
they fked up their algebra
ahh thank u can u tell me where they went wrong
$-p-q \redneq -(p-q)$
$-\log x^2 y^2 - \log y^3 = - \log x^2 y^5$
heh... redneq
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Could someone show how they get 21.44 centimeters from 18.20(3pi/8)
they dont really explain anywhere how they got to this number
Plug into ur calculator
Units are cus 18.20 is in cm
Oh hold up lol you want more than that
gonna just assume the answer is what the calculator shows cause my cats decided to hide the calculator
somehow
when i did it on the pc calc i just got something terribly diffgerent
Weird
I haven't actually out it in but it's about 9/8*18 so it looked roughly right to me
found the calculator actually and yah got it
i was replacing pi with 180 cause earlier to find radians it said u could do that
but with this i guess u cannot
Oh 💀
i do not like trig
dw there's worse things out there :p
Np
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So i got how the solutions did the equations
And I was able to work it out myself
I just dont understand how the units changed from minutes to hours
Because when we plugged in t = 10, units were minutes
Then the final answer became hours
yea there's no way the answer is 3.654 hours, if more than half of the radon has decayed after 10 minutes
yea the work looks fine, they just got the units wrong
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i dont even know where to start with this one
Please don't occupy multiple help channels.
closed your other channel
ok
<@&286206848099549185>
Hm
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How can I solve sin(x/3) = 1/sqrt(2)
without the unit circle
do you know when sinx = 1/sqrt(2)?
Not really
Wait
1/sqrt(2) is pi/4?
x is pi/4
remember, there are many more
So that means sine of 1/sqrt(2) = pi/4 right
Yeah I’m just finding the base angle first
no
sin(pi/4) = 1/sqrt(2)
so sin(x) = 1sqrt(2) = sin(pi/4)
yes
okay
And solutions are when sinx>0 so that’s in Q1,Q2
So our first solution is pi/4 and the second will be pi - pi/4 ?
correct
now might be a good time time to add on the $+2k\pi$
lpieleanu
oh yeah well this was actually just part of another question I’m solving
but my original domain for the equation was between -pi<=x<=pi
anyways I got x = 3pi/4, 9pi/4
@obtuse sierra how about solving for sin(-pi/4) between -pi to pi
The solution I’m looking at just has the same one as positive pi/4 but with a negative sign
pi/4*
typo
pi/4 and 3pi/4

So what about this
-1/sqrt(2)
yeah
oh you want sin(x) = -1/sqrt(2)
just go anticlockwise
as the domain is -pi to pi
you can now include negative angle (not negative really)
okay
Wait does this trick only work if the domain is -pi to pi or if the function is even or odd
the negative trick where you just slap on a minus sign
yeah odd functions
Am I correct in saying this?
yeah cuz f(-x) = -f(x), so adding a minus sign, will yield a negative result of the original.
So like if I have sin(x) = 1/2 which is pi/6, it will have a negative solution -pi/6 as well?
So let’s say this was cos what would happen
Lol
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For ii), the hint was that I needed to take the derivative of the function. But, what does it mean when deals with the "max"
This is what I have with the hints we were given in class
derivatives are intimately tied with maximums and minumums
if a function has a local max or min at a point not on its boundary then the first derivative must be zero at that point
So do I just need to show that f'(x)=0? Or more specifically do i need to find the x that makes f'(x)=0?
the actual function f(x)
when they write $\operatorname{max}_{x \in \mathbb{R}} f(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi\sigma}}$
ΣΑCu
they mean, the maximum value that the function f can achieve across all x values in R, is 1/sqrt(2pisigma)
Alright, thank you for the helpful hints! I will come back if I get stuck, but I think I need to start with just taking the first derivative and go from there. Thanks again!! 🙂
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I dont understand specifically after they obtained the individual values of Q's
can anyone explain?
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specifically there they just plugged in the value of a back in the original calculation for Q
i.e. -15Q(2) = -2a --> Q(2) = -2*315/(-15)
are you asking how they got the original values for Q?
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i think the answer is 23 i used scale factors im pterry sure theres a typo on the techers side im trnna to help my brother with his homework this was the only quston that was hard for him
the quston that the website gave was "Two scale drawings of the same cathedral are shown. Look carefully at the dimensions of the drawings. What is the height of the cathedral on the right?"
it doesnt work like that
the ratio of the sides are the same
so, 6:15 is the ratio for the base
therefore, use the same ratio for the height
ohh i get it now
no after that, so how they say Qx=Tx... part
seems like this person finished his question anyway, so if u dont mind u can continue explaining
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Bit of a long shot, but does anyone know where I went wrong here?
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<@&286206848099549185> Anyone know "basic" cal 2?
Hello 👋🏽 . In the expression for r in terms of x, it looks like you wrote 18 instead of 13
Oh my gosh
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how to calculate t hi s?
thats negative e in the front?
and r is any varible?
R also a constant?
yea
this is origial task
this is wolframalphas answer
which i have no idea what is
use exponent property?
and thai is desmos graph of similat function
log(a^b) is b loga
and then
limit can get into the logs parenthesis
correct
(r/R)^((r/R)^2)
u gotta calculate limit of this correct?
y
.
..
its not e but -c
yes
any chance to use lhopital rule here because this chapter is about that rule ?
u gotta differentiate both numerator and denominator in that case ryt
denominator is 1
differentiating that gives u 0
again p/0 issues
apply exponent rules i know but apply the limit chain rule i do mot get how to do
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how to solve this ?
did you maybe mean $\int_1^x \sqrt{t^2 - 1} \dd{t}$?
Ann
as-is the notation is incorrect
that is a hyperbola, not a parabola.
yy
is y = why or is y = yes?
yes
right
so you want to find the shaded area, yes?
which is a triangle minus that integral...
yes originally i want that
Ann
probably some kind of trig sub like t = 1/cos(phi) would help.
but i do not understand why you untroduced t while the curve equation is y=sqrt(x^2-1)
you cannot have x appear both in the limits of integration and as the integration variable.
i.e. $\int_1^x (...) \dd{x} = {}$ not kosher.
Ann
so you want $\int_1^a \sqrt{x^2 - 1} \dd{x}$.
Ann
sey for my english witing skills
x = 1/cos(phi)
what is this?
a substitution
read up on "trigonometric substitutions"
paul's online math notes has it
i think
idk who is paul but i found that concept in my book as well
so i need to learn that first yes ?
in order to find that integral
yes, you need to learn substitutions in general
ok then i will leave it as it is for now and will try to solve the problem after i will read that
if something will come back for seeking help
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how can i simplify this?
can you factor something in the numerator?
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i actually am having difficulties factoring..
see if there is a number that is factor to both 6 and 24
do you know about difference of squares?
yeah first do that
isn't the number for 6 and 24, 6 as well?
What is common in the numerator
remove the 6 in the numerator?
6
x^2
-24/6 is what?
-4
ohh, so i have to put the common factor outside the parenthesis, then put the factored numbers or variables inside ?
i'm not sure, i'm super slow sorry ;-;
yes
when u have a common factor u have to place it outside the parenthesis
this is because patenthesis means multiplying and the number outside mulitplied with inside results the same thing so u arent changing anything
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Difference of 2 squares
You might be asking where the second square is
4 = 2^2
So you have 6(x^2-2^2)
Now I’m assuming you don’t know what this is
i don't ;-; sorry
so i have to split (x^2-2^2) into two parenthesis?
resulting in (x+2)(x-2)?
Notice how you can apply the same principle to the denominator
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oh sorry
so i'm going to use the difference of squares in x^2-4 as well?
Yes!
i have a question, when scenario can i only use the difference of squares?
because in multiplication of functions, i just substituded and distributed
When you have 2 squares that are being subtracted from each other then you can apply it
can you give me an example.. i don't seen to understand in words alone.. sorry 🥲
then (x+1)(x-1)?
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how do i determine the value of a b c and d in "(ax^2+bx+c)/(x+d)" using a graph programme like geogebra?
knowing that the x asymptote is -1
and that f(x) is more than or equals zero when x [-2,-1) and [2->
[2->
what does this mean
so is this like, [2, +∞) but for people who are allergic to the infinity symbol?
anyway idk how to use geogebra to determine your stuff
but it would not be hard to do by hand
yeah obviously, but the exercise wants me to use a digital tool
alternatively i could use a calculator programme
but what is it called when you find out values of a function's coefficients like that? extrapolation?
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