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hasty pulsar
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is it about kirchoff?

near island
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What technique are you using?

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Loop analysis or nodal analysis

serene hazel
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Part A

hasty pulsar
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Show their circuit

serene hazel
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Where did the current come from

hasty pulsar
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we need to see where they labelled the currents

serene hazel
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Idk this just isn’t clicking

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So how do you label it??

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I think I need this explained to me like I’m 5

hasty pulsar
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i2 and i1 are coming to the point

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whilst i3 is going out

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coming= positive, out = negative => i2+i1-i3 = i2+i1=i3

serene hazel
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Ok sure

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What’s the point?

hasty pulsar
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above 5 ohm

near island
serene hazel
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This is beyond confusing

hasty pulsar
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change = to => then

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i2+i1-i3=0
i2+i1=i3

near island
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Look at it like this: when water flows through pipes and there is a junction, equal amounts of water flow into the junction as come out

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Otherwise water would pile up

serene hazel
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Ok yes that makes sense

hasty pulsar
near island
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In electricity it's the exact same. The current into a junction (=node) and out of has to be equal

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Otherwise charge would pile up which is impossible

serene hazel
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Ok

near island
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That's where the equation in A comes from

serene hazel
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So how do you tell where it’s coming and leaving

near island
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You don't know that yet.

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You take a choice of arrow direction and continue to work with it

serene hazel
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So is I1 the entire circuit??

near island
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I1 here is the current flowing through the middle branch

hasty pulsar
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from battery to the two resistors

serene hazel
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Then why did this guy label it on the far right?

hasty pulsar
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?

near island
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There's no i1 label on the right?

serene hazel
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Well why isn’t I1 labeled anywhere

hasty pulsar
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i assumed the middle arrow was I1

serene hazel
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Ok how did he know it was going that way??

hasty pulsar
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we dont

near island
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He didn't. Arrow directions are a choice

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After the calculations we could find that i1 is negative

serene hazel
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Ok

near island
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which means it's actually flowing downward

serene hazel
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Where did that number come from

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To me it just spawned in

near island
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Which number?

serene hazel
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All the answers

hasty pulsar
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have you watched any videos about kirchoff laws?

serene hazel
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He didn’t match an equation to an answer

hasty pulsar
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you got three equations and three unknowns

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u can solve it either through algebra or matrices

near island
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The method used assumes you have a solid grasp of the kirchoff laws

hasty pulsar
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if you havent watched any video watch this

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This physics video tutorial provides a basic introduction into kirchoff's voltage law which states that the sum of all the voltages in a loop must add to zero. This video explains how to solve kcl circuits by using kirchoff's loop rule to calculate the current flowing in a series circuit with multiple batteries / voltage sources. This video al...

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calm hinge
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👋 Hi!
I'm writing some mathematical statements for my friends to disprove and, of course, I want them to be as clear as possible.

I have defined an operator m: A x B → y, where A and B are subsets of ℝ and y ∈ ℝ.
If A and B are subsets of ℚ, the operator will output a number in ℚ.

What's the best way to describe this?
I think something similar to the concept of set closure under an operator would be perfect, but A and B are sets, not numbers, so saying that ℚ is closed under the operator m is just wrong

mild flower
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if you want mathematical language you can say that $m: \mathcal{P}(\R) \times \mathcal{P}(\R)$ and that $\mathcal{P}(\Q)$ is closed under $m$

twin meteorBOT
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Hayley

mild flower
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where P is the powerset

hard atlas
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well its not tho

mild flower
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oh whoops

hard atlas
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cause then you would expect that the result is a set again

mild flower
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i can't read

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just say it in words tbh

hard atlas
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just write down this condition in words

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its fairly short

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doesnt need a name probably

calm hinge
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tinktonk Ok!

worthy citrus
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you could say that the image codomain of m under the restriction to Q x Q is Q

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and convert that to symbols if you really wanted, but i agree that writing it in words is probably best

calm hinge
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Oh I see, that's fancy

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Thank you so much people! catlove

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halcyon sluice
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I'm looking to determine the sup-norm of $\frac{nx}{1+n^2x^2}$ on $x\in[1,\infty)$ (here $n$ is any natural number). If the interval was compact, I would know by the extreme value theorem that the function obtains a maximum there. However, with $[1,\infty)$ I'm unsure. I could look for extreme values at the boundary points and critical points, but I don't know if the function actually obtains a maximum there.

twin meteorBOT
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sunside_

worthy citrus
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you might want to look at the behaviour of the function as x tends to infinity

halcyon sluice
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true

worthy citrus
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and then boundary and critical points is a good idea

halcyon sluice
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at x=1, we have n/(1+n^2) (this is a boundary point); at x=1/n, we have 1/2 (this is a critical point); in the limit as x tends to infinity, we have that the function tends to 0

wraith venture
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x=1/n is out of the domain anyways

halcyon sluice
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oh, yeah, I was wrong there 🙂

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if I could establish that the function is decreasing for all x in [1,oo), then clearly x=1 would be the max

wraith venture
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What's the derivative ?

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,w d/dx (nx)/(1+n^2 x^2)

wraith venture
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So it's just plain decreasing

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halcyon sluice
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ok, thanks, I think I got it now

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obtuse lintel
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im trying to solve this problem

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and here is what i got, was I correct in treating Kmax as a variable in itself?

river kettle
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You’d probably have better luck asking this in a physics server

obtuse lintel
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oh ok

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solar lotus
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I have a few hard matrix questions

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solar lotus
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can i get some help?

open spade
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I've seen you do this a few times, you should send your question first while asking for help. Don't wait for anyone to respond before sending you question.

solar lotus
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i don't know where to start

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my bad

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opal obsidian
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Is the set A={2,3,pi, 5/7} finite?

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thin vale
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What do you think?

opal obsidian
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it has 4 elements, but the confuses arises when i think about decimal expansions

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If I were to list it with decimals i cannot list it

thin vale
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what's your definition of a set A being finite?

opal obsidian
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I haven't gone through one yet, but bijection to N?

thin vale
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that means it is countably infinite

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N is not a finite set

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but it is countable

opal obsidian
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so the above set is countably infinite?

thin vale
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Not what I said

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the set N of naturals is countably infinte

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{1,2,3,...}

opal obsidian
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yes

thin vale
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and a set that has a bijection onto N is countably infinite

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can this set have a bijection onto N?

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It can certainly be injective, but what about surjective?

opal obsidian
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i don’t know if I can map ‘pi’ onto elements?

thin vale
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Pi is just a constant

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why would you not be able to

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you could even define your function to take pi -> 1

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the function could be something like f(a) with a in A, = 7a if a is a rational, and = 1 if a is not a rational

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verify that this is injective onto the naturals

opal obsidian
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I think my misconception is rooted because of misinterpretation of decimal expansion

thin vale
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I agree

opal obsidian
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and 1 if it’s not

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?

thin vale
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yes

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mapping elements from your set A

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to the naturals

opal obsidian
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Map 2 to 1, 3 to 2, pi to 3 and so on

thin vale
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well sure that works

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the so on ends immediately though

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after just 1 more term

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map 5/7 to 4

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and boom

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now you have an injective function

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is it possible for it to be surjective?

opal obsidian
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for entire N?

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Then no

thin vale
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mhm

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so no bijection

opal obsidian
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only 4 elements in N is mapped

thin vale
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so our set isn't countably infinite

opal obsidian
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so rest are not mapped

thin vale
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exactly

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so we've deduced our set A is not countably infinite

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the other options are it is uncountably infinite, or finite

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which do you think it is?

opal obsidian
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finite it is

thin vale
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mhm

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and there is a cool theorem here

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basically saying that

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if you can create an injection

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but not a surjection

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that set is 'less' in cardinality

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than the other set

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and the opposite holds

opal obsidian
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less than alph nought

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?

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If N

thin vale
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I don't know what you mean by that

opal obsidian
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Idk, the cardinality of N

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i just read about it

thin vale
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we denote the cardinality of N as |N|

opal obsidian
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so any number as it’s alone can be mapped to some element in N?

thin vale
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sure why not

opal obsidian
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but what does it mean to count pi?

thin vale
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I don't know what you mean

opal obsidian
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I think my understanding of numbers are fundamentally flawed

thin vale
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I agree

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pi is just a constant

opal obsidian
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lol, mb

thin vale
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because its decimal expansion does not terminate doesn't mean anything

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for example

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decimal expansions need not necessarily be unique

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5.000.....=4.999999

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but if we want to have every real number having one decimal expansion

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then we always "pick" the repeating 9's

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so 5=4.9999......

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and we don't usual write 5=5.000....

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and in both cases

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the decimals don't terminate

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just like in pi

opal obsidian
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i thought when we say countable we can completely recite the number

thin vale
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yet you wouldn't argue that 5 is infinite

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countable is different terminology than infinite

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and my point was the having an infinite decimal expansion does not change the fact that it is still just 1 number

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5=4.999.... (infinite decimal expansion) pi=3.14159265358979323.... (infinite decimal expansion)

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both are just singular real numbers though regardless

opal obsidian
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yeah, sqrt(2) has a long repeating decimal but it’s has a clear position in number line

thin vale
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that is because it is irrational, like pi

opal obsidian
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when is a set uncountable?

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as you pointed there is no bijection

thin vale
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when it does not have an injective mapping onto the naturals

opal obsidian
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So the set of Reals cannot be mapped to N?

thin vale
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exactly

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the proof of that is very cool

opal obsidian
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how do I see that?

thin vale
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(there are lots of proofs of that actually)

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I can send you one I wrote up, but the typical proof is called Cantor's Diagonalization (that is what I used) and you could also just google it

opal obsidian
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Any way related to cantor’s diagonal argument

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?

opal obsidian
thin vale
opal obsidian
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Is sup the upper bound of set?

thin vale
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the sup is the least upper bound of a set

opal obsidian
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okie

thin vale
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short for 'supremum'

opal obsidian
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I have only read the term L.U.B

thin vale
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same thing

opal obsidian
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Thank you

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silk bridge
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so like

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is this true or false

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cause if its liek circles on a graph

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thats false

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but like just circles in general

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this question is confusing to me

sly sierra
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if you take a circle and then move it, is it congruent to the original circle?

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does it have the same center?

silk bridge
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so it is false

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right

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hidden ginkgo
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Is this C. y = cos (x - TT/2)

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Just want to fact-check

sly sierra
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no

hidden ginkgo
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shit

sly sierra
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if you plug in x=pi/2, that equation would give you y = what?

hidden ginkgo
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uh

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cos

sly sierra
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no what number

hidden ginkgo
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2

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pi/2

sly sierra
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cos is always between -1 and 1, it can't be 2

hidden ginkgo
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o

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so 0?

sly sierra
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if x is pi/2 then what is cos(x - pi/2)

hidden ginkgo
sly sierra
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well one step at a time

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if x is pi/2 then what is x - pi/2

hidden ginkgo
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uhh

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negative something

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im not that good with pi 💀

sly sierra
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it's simpler than that

hidden ginkgo
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Just learned it an hour ago

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idk

sly sierra
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if x is 7 then what is x - 7

hidden ginkgo
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7?

sly sierra
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uhh

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x is 7

hidden ginkgo
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oh

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0

sly sierra
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subtract 7 from that

hidden ginkgo
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my bad

sly sierra
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yes

hidden ginkgo
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that was slow

sly sierra
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ok

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so if x is pi/2, what is x - pi/2

hidden ginkgo
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0

sly sierra
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right

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and what's the cosine of that

hidden ginkgo
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so is y = cos x

sly sierra
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no, what is cosine of 0

hidden ginkgo
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1

sly sierra
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right

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so if you plug in x=pi/2

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your y value for y = cos(x - pi/2) is 1

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but what is the y value in your graph at x = pi/2?

hidden ginkgo
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idk 😭

sly sierra
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it's labeled right on the graph

hidden ginkgo
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pi /2

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i mean i see it

sly sierra
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that's the x value

hidden ginkgo
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idk what to call

sly sierra
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what is the y value there

hidden ginkgo
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1/1

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1

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?

sly sierra
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the y value is below the x axis when x = pi/2, right?

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so the y value is negative

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(specifically it's -1)

hidden ginkgo
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oh

sly sierra
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whereas your equation says it should be 1

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so your equation can't be the one that goes with the graph

hidden ginkgo
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so D

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?

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its the same but not negative

sly sierra
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nope, d is also wrong

hidden ginkgo
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omg

sly sierra
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again, try plugging in x=pi/2 and see what D tells you the y value should be

hidden ginkgo
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OH DUH

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it has 2

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is B

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ok

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i swear im slow sometimes

sly sierra
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yes, B is correct

hidden ginkgo
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so

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does that mean this one would be negative?

sly sierra
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hmm, probably the easiest way to do this one is to shift the graph downward by 1

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if you do that, what function do you get?

hidden ginkgo
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y + 1 = cos x

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?

sly sierra
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nope

hidden ginkgo
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OMG

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this is embarassing

sly sierra
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one thing to keep in mind

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cos has a maximum at x=0

hidden ginkgo
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but..

sly sierra
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this graph doesn't

hidden ginkgo
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oh

sly sierra
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this graph has a maximum at pi/2

hidden ginkgo
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ok

sly sierra
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and so does sine

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so you should expect this to be y = sin(x) + something

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or equivalently,

hidden ginkgo
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y + 1 = sin x

sly sierra
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y - something = sin(x)

hidden ginkgo
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oh

sly sierra
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well y + 1 = sin x would be equivalent to y = sin(x) - 1

hidden ginkgo
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y - 1 = sin x

sly sierra
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yes

hidden ginkgo
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oh duh

sly sierra
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that's the one

hidden ginkgo
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I siad it should be negative

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i got confused

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😭

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but thanks

sly sierra
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sure

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assume that there's a polynomial cubic function f(x), and its leading term's coefficient is positive.
given that cubic function f(x) and the linear function g(x) been tangent to each other in x=1 and there's only one intersection point between the two function.

is x=1 where the Inflection point occur?

waxen hawk
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how to prove it?

split wind
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i think it's not necessarily the case?

waxen hawk
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do you have any counter-example

split wind
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lemme check with desmos real quick

waxen hawk
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for sure

split wind
waxen hawk
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do you notice there are 2 intersection points in your case

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in which we can only have one as the question stated

split wind
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ohhh

waxen hawk
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I feel uncertain about whether it is true that the inflection point occurs in, as neither can i find any of counter example nor a way to prove it

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can i use neither...nor in that way

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is it grammtically correct?

split wind
waxen hawk
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cubic discriminant

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i know that stuff but i dont want to over-complicate the question

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can't we consider it the geometry way, which is more intuitive in my perspective

split wind
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i see

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I don't really know then

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can you do it with prove by contradiction?

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just guessing

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I don't know where to begin the equation

paper depot
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@simple lark let x be the duration of Diophantus' life

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write down each stage of his life in terms of x

simple lark
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Yes I get that part

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x = childhood, youth, bachelor

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but I really don't where to begin in this kind of problem

paper depot
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x is diophantus' entire life

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childhood is one sixth of his life. how do we write that?

simple lark
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oh I'm wrong

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should I substitute it to variables?

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like A=1/6

paper depot
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you should not overthink it

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you should not make any new variables as there is absolutely no need for that

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childhood = 
youth = 
bachelorhood = 
marriage before son = 
son's life = 
grief of son's death =
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fill in the blanks here

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don't jump ahead

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only fill in the blanks as i tell you to

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in terms of x obviously

simple lark
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childhood, =1/6
youth = 1/12
bachelor = 1/7
Marriage = 5 years
son's life = 4

paper depot
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no

simple lark
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Grief of son's death = 1/2

paper depot
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childhood isn't 1/6

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it's not one sixth of a year

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it's one sixth of his life

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which i have instructed you to denote with the letter x

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so it is not 1/6 but x/6

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also even with this mistake corrected you mixed up the son's life and the 4 years diophantus grieved him

simple lark
paper depot
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no, not later.

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you cannot just defer such things.

simple lark
paper depot
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no

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x is the number of years diophantus lived in all

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if you said x = 1/6 it would mean diophantus lived only two months and died an infant

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no, the letter x won't appear in all of these entries, but it'll appear in most of them.

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but that info won't really help you all that much.

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childhood x/6
youth x/12
bachelor x/7

Marriage before son 5
Son's death 4
Grief of son's death x/2 father's final age

paper depot
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almost there...

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1/2 father's final age

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why not write this as x/2 tho

simple lark
paper depot
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also you're once again mixing up the son's lifetime and the grief...

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which won't matter THAT much but yknow. it's weird.

simple lark
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is the father's half the final age means the father of diophantus?

paper depot
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no it means diophantus himself.

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he's the father of his son

simple lark
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yeah ok so like

simple lark
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oh sorry are you gonna argue against me on this or what

simple lark
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no I thought of you for me to answer the question

paper depot
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communication is difficult.

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anyway! we now have the following breakdown of diophantus' life:

childhood = x/6
youth = x/12
bachelorhood = x/7
marriage before son = 5
son's life = x/2
grief of son's death = 4
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total life = x
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can you write this as an equation? Y/N

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yes, but not sure if I will be correct

paper depot
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try it and i will tell you where you went wrong

simple lark
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since of all of the given denotes the total of Diophantu's life, I think I should only add all of them and solve for x

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the LCM of childhood youth and bachelor is 84

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just

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write down

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the equation

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don't attempt to simplify it beforehand

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you haven't written it down so you're trying to keep it all in your head

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that's a bad idea bc you are guaranteed to fuck it up one way or another and not even know it

simple lark
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I don't think I can write in an equation but I already understood the problem

paper depot
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those two statements contradict each other

simple lark
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x/6 + x/12 + x/7 = 33x

paper depot
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if you understand the problem, then you are also ab-

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33x????

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where did 33x come from?

simple lark
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I multiplied it by 84 to remove the fraction

paper depot
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and you chose not to write down this multiplication by 84 on the left-hand side.

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and instead chose to claim that a number is equal to 84 times itself.

paper depot
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also i told you not to simplify anything

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and you broke that instruction of minetoo

simple lark
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that's their common lcm

paper depot
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FORGET about this "common lcm" bullshit.

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you have only half-written down the equation.

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i TOLD you NOT to simplify anything beforehand.

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NOT simplifying anything beforehand also means NOT thinking about any denominators or lcm's or any such things.

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ping me when you respond.

simple lark
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x/6 + x/12 + x/7

I really don't know how to put it into equation
@paper depot

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you've written it down halfway

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you've accounted for three of the six parts of diophantus' life; are you going to also account for the other three, or let them fall into oblivion?

paper depot
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congratulations you fucked up once again

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you attempted to simplify some things, didn't you?

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and you also lost the first bit.

simple lark
paper depot
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DO NOT DO THINGS IN YOUR HEAD.

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don't attempt to simplify it beforehand
you haven't written it down so you're trying to keep it all in your head
that's a bad idea bc you are guaranteed to fuck it up one way or another and not even know it

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the equation i wanted from you was: $$\frac{x}{6} + \frac{x}{12} + \frac{x}{7} + 5 + \frac{x}{2} + 4 = x$$

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very simple if you just don't overthink

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ok the first thing i'd probably do is try to find h

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ok

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using pyth

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right?

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yeah

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Which triangle should we use

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Shouldn’t we find the height of the triangle

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So then we will get the hyp

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You already have the hypotenuse

severe violet
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What is it

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Is it 20

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look at right triangles that involve h

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is A={1,2,3} and B={{1}} subsets?

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My guess is no, as {1} is different from 1

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subsets of what?

opal obsidian
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is B subset of A?

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B is not subset of A if that was your question

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{1} would be subset of A

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because B contains {1}, and {1} is not an element of A

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and A contains 1,2,3 which are not elements of B

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B is subset of A iff each element of B is also element of A

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so {1} can be element

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of a set?

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yes, sets can themselves be elements of other sets, it's perfectly fine

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yes, {1} is element of e.g. {{1}} or {2, {1}, {3, 3}}

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wtf is this shape 😭 im so lost

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how do i determine

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wheather greater than 1 or not

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Problem: I = E/R+r

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I’m I’m solving for r

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$I = \frac{E}{R} + r$?

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it’ll be R+r on bottom

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Like this

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ok, so you should write E/(R+r)

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Oh okay sorry

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Yes correct

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I can show you my work to see if the answer is wrong and see where I went wrong to correct it

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you should always show your work regardless

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can someone texit bot this question for me please

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$\frac{x^5+3x^4-2x^2-3}{x^2+1}$

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_wherewolf_

proven garden
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is this what you want

reef wave
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do u know how to do it in like polynomial division

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long division

proven garden
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calculate yourself

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and ask if you need help

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we don't give out answer here

reef wave
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ive tried it but im not sure where im going wrong

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show your work please

reef wave
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so i want to see the working

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It's a custom command that most people don't have, just Google a long division calculator if that's all you want

reef wave
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you wrote it weirdly and that's why you made a mistake

reef wave
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oh what

proven garden
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try writing it like - (x^5+0x^4+x^3) instead of -x^5+0x^4+x^3

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you made a mistake at -(-3x^3+0x^2-3x)

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it should be +3x on the next line

reef wave
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so remainder is 3x?

proven garden
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yeah

reef wave
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apparently this is the anwer

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answer*

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hi

reef wave
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hello

proven garden
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you copied the question wrongly

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the question is -2x^2 but you wrote -2x^3

reef wave
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..

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ffs

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well then sorry for wasting ur time bro

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but thank you

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It's fine everyone makes mistakes

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ABC is a right triangle, right angled at B.
D can be any point on AC (other than A and C)
Find the length of BD (integer values)

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so you want to find all possible integer values of BD?

vast shale
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it seems like you would have to create a function for it and then find where the values of function are integers ig

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the way my friend did it was

vast shale
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function could be with respect to AD:DC ratio or theta, theta = angle DBC I think

plain bear
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minimum value of BD

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is that a yes or a no

vast shale
paper depot
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if it's a no, then no goal has been clearly stated.

vast shale
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Find minimum value of BD ?

vast shale
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Yep

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so then we are to find all possible integer values of BD, got it

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we will need to find the minimum possible value for that

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which of course happens when BD is perpendicular to AC

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and so can be found using the half-base-times-height area formula, perhaps

plain bear
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if BD is perpendicular to AC

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then answer comes out to be 14.5

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but that isnt right

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of course it isn't. i didn't say it was the smallest integer value.

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but it's the lower bound.

plain bear
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so

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whats the answer

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word of advice:

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ask "what's the answer" on this server

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it is like a red cloth to a bull

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anyway in our case we then know that if BD is an integer then it must be at least 15

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@paper depot hey you done?

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well, i did say what i wanted to say.

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the ball's in your court now.

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i see how it is

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ok

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minimum length of BD

latent girder
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if you take (BC) as x-axis and (BA) as y-axis
then you find the equation of line (AC)
then you have coordinates of D and you can calculate BD², then find when BD² is minimum

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but in your SS, it is not said to find the minimum of BD, but to find BD

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so in inductive step, I supposed the statement is true with n positive numbers x1, x2, ..., x_n-1, x_n + x_n+1 s.t sum <= 1/3 , simultaneously It True for n+1 positive numbers cause sum <= 1/3 but the product does contain equal sign.

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Hello there I have a question in regards to the Sandiwch Theorem. Lets say we want to find the limit as x approaches 0 of the function xsin(1/x). We know that x oscillates between [-1,1], therefore we can state that
-1 <= sin(1/x) <= 1
-x <= xsin(1/x) <= x
But now we have an issue because when we graph it we see that it does not abide the definition of sandwich theorem where f(x) <= g(x) <= h(x)

Now if we apply an absolute value, we get.

-|x| <= |xsin(1/x)| <= |x|

Now we cannot change the original function and it can be proved through cases that - |x| <= xsin(1/x) <= |x|

Now what my confusion is from that transition where we had that absolute value on xsin(1/x) to getting it removed after proving the cases. I don't get how to prove those cases. if someone can hint me along the way as I attempt to show my thinking and advise me so on and so forth it would be greatly appreciated.

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"it does not abide by the definition of sandwich theorem where..."
Why not?

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Sandwich theorem does work on that line.

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The final definition does what I was saying

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was that this

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-x <= xsin(1/x) <= x

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itself

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does not abide the sandwich theorem. An exception has been made for that thing.

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As x approaches 0 for the limit.

regal bane
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Why not lol

dull maple
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dull maple
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thus f(x) <= g(x) doesn't hold.

broken nimbus
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Yeah.

regal bane
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Oh I see. Could do a right limit and left limit instead

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Might be the "through cases" you were referring to

broken nimbus
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Yeah

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-|x| <= |xsin(1/x)| <= |x|

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Now this is correct, however we negate the absolute value case through proving cases and also because of the fact we cannot change the og function in the middle or were essentially changing it which would be wrong.

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Please don't tell me the answer

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but here is my thinking

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We need to prove that x < 0 and x >= 0

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therefore

regal bane
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You're correct that |xsin(1/x)| is not the original function, but there's still useful information in using that function instead

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For x >= 0 - |x| < xsin(1/x) = |x|

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and -x < 0

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-|x| = -xsin(1/x) < |x|

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Does this prove the fact that we can drop the absolute value on the |xsin(1/x)|

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Or am I missing a detail, and if so hint me towards it don't tell me directly.

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hello?

broken nimbus
regal bane
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There's two different ways to prove this. Using the absolute value, or using the left side and right side

broken nimbus
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Mk, so I used the left side and right side right to prove mine? Is my proof incomplete?

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Hello again

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momento

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$\begin{array}{l}y\prime=x+\frac{1}{y}\cdot y\prime\
\end{array}$

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yaomri

vast shale
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how do put the y prime at left

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i know i gotta divide but what happens to the rest

west raptor
vast shale
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yes basically we want yprime(1)

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Oh ok

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This is a separable differential equation so we can just factor y' to one side

vast shale
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yes so y' = 1/??

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y'=x/(1-1/y)

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kk wait

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here is the original

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$g\left(x\right)\ =\ x+\ \frac{1}{x+\frac{1}{x+\frac{1}{x+...}}}$

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I have to calculate g prime (1)

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Oh ok

vast shale
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I'm a beginner

west raptor
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Hmmm... I'll try

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Okay

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one thing is sure

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is that 1/.....

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basically infinity

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is 1/g(x)

west raptor
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Yeah I know that

vast shale
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alr

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and you have to use some sort of quadratic formula

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$y'=\frac{x}{1-\frac{1}{y}}$

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_wherewolf_

west raptor
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I got $y^\prime=\frac{\sqrt{x^2+4}\pm x}{2\sqrt{x^2+4}}$

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math_is_fun

vast shale
proven garden
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umm we just need g(1)

vast shale
proven garden
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to find g'(1)

vast shale
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they just dont show how they did it

vast shale
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So from that $g^\prime(1)=\frac{5\pm\sqrt{5}}{10}$

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math_is_fun

vast shale
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wait wait whaat

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please explain

west raptor
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Ok I'll explain it from the beginning

vast shale
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kk

proven garden
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you isolate y' to the left side

west raptor
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First $y=x+\frac{1}{y}$
Then $y=\frac{x\pm\sqrt{x^2+4}}{2}$

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math_is_fun

west raptor
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Then $y^\prime=\frac{\sqrt{x^2+4}\pm x}{2\sqrt{x^2+4}}$

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math_is_fun

vast shale
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The question is

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how did you get from y = x + 1/y to that

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like what formula did you uuse

west raptor
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Using the quadratic formula

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Multiplying both sides by y gives a quadratic equation

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is the answer even right?

west raptor
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Yeah

proven garden
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it couldn't be -

vast shale
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oh YEA

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X = 1

west raptor
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I used a computer

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I'm kind of lazy

vast shale
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since we ant g(1)

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g prime

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so 1 +5

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sqrt(5)

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1+4*

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  • 5
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waitt

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the /10 where is it?

west raptor
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Multiply the numer and denomin by sqrt(5)

vast shale
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2 x sqrt(5)

west raptor
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The last question is that how do we know the answer is $\frac{5+\sqrt{5}}{10}$ and not $\frac{5-\sqrt{5}}{10}$

vast shale
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oh the numer

twin meteorBOT
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math_is_fun

vast shale
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it's both ig

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+-

west raptor
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A function can't have two values you know

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It's the definition

vast shale
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since it's on quadran 1

west raptor
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g(x) reminds me of the golden ratio

vast shale
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i'd say +

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wait lemme do it

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btw from x / (1- 1/y)

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for the quadratic formula

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how do you know where is b ,a c

west raptor
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What is b ,a c?

vast shale
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the quadratic formula

west raptor
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Ok

vast shale
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x = -b ect..

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x = -b +- sqrt(b2 ..

west raptor
vast shale
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y' = x/(1-(1/y)) is not a degree 2

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uc ant use quadratic

west raptor
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Wait no

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Never mind

west raptor
vast shale
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well what did you use

west raptor
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Shouldn't it be y=x+1/y?

vast shale
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yes but it's still not a degree 2 equation

west raptor
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$y=x+\frac{1}{y}\implies y^2=xy+1\implies y^2+(-x)y+(-1)=0$

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math_is_fun

vast shale
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ok you squared i

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t

west raptor
vast shale
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yea?

west raptor
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So the $y=\frac{x-\sqrt{x^2+4}}{2}$ is always negative

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math_is_fun

west raptor
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But g(x) can be positive

vast shale
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hm

west raptor
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Here's a summary of everything:
$$y=g\left(x\right)\ =\ x+\ \frac{1}{x+\frac{1}{x+\frac{1}{x+...}}}$$
gives $y=x+1/y$. Using the quadratic formula yields
$$y=\frac{x\pm\sqrt{x^2+4}}{2}.$$
But the $-$ solution is always negative, which is not the case for $g$. Differentiating gives
$$y^\prime=\frac{\sqrt{x^2+4}+ x}{2\sqrt{x^2+4}},$$
so
$$g^\prime(1)=\frac{\sqrt{5}+1}{2\sqrt{5}}=\frac{5+\sqrt{5}}{10}$$

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vast shale
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so to get /10

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you timed it by sqrt(5)

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i maen 5*

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oh yes

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but if you time back at the num

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the squares cancel

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don't they?

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oh nvm got it

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got it got it

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thank you man for helping

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appreciate it

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Is this what it wants me to do? To draw a graph right?

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yes

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Hello, i was doing some practice problems that were given to us about Taylor Series Expansion. The attached image is the function about a = -3

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I manage to get this answer

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but the textbook's answer key says that the denominator should have a times 6 (so it says that the denominator should be 6•3^(n+4)

median moon
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How can I proove : a ≡ d mod m
Given that,
a ≡ b mod m
and c ≡ d mod m

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based on the pattern that I got, i dont know how that 6 got there so I dont know if the textbook has a wrong solution or im just dumb asf

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I am too lazy to calculate f^(n)(x) can you show your step?

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this is personal HW but can someone help me
there is 1 coin and 1 dice for context
I dont understand
there should be one way
its like a type right?
*typo

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modest aurora
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whats the original question?

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I know how do do it

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its easy

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I juast diont get what was meant

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in the since statement

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oh its not a typo

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oh ignore the last message wrong server 😦

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modest aurora
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cards, dices and coins

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for cards there is 52/4

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wait

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omfg

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wait

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yea no i dont understand this shit

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i was thinking 2x2=4

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so 52/4 gets cancelle by 4 and only 52 remains

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but probability for dice is 1/6

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i think its a typo

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sorery i had internet issues

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rweading it now

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nah dont

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have a nice day/night

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same toy you

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Could I get confirmation on my answee

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Looks good

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Ty

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Could you also confirm one more thing, someone one else did but I just wanna make sure

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Sure

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I had two separate answer 190 and 10

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Isnt 190 the closer point compared to 10

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190 is closer to 170 than 10 is, sure, but that's not necessarily relevant

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cos 530° is also equivalent to cos 170° so distance isn't exactly a relevant metric

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But 190 is correct

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Alright thank you for the informative explanation appreciate it

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Np

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i would think the engine is enough confirmation

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Can someone help me with this?

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I'm pretty sure I know the answer but idk how to phrase it

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Pls ping when replied

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Why did they minus theta?

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to be honest, from reading these alone, I don't know.

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Can you show part I and the whole question

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i think it's because of BA

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draw a straight line on B and parallel to real axis

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then consider the angle between line and BA

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then we can find that the angle is pi/3-theta

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Hi

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I have a quick question

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Can a matrix be positive definite if it is not symmetric?

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Or must it be symmetric?

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I know there's a formula but its for like all x in R^n that isnt 0

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so im not sure how to test that case for nonsymmetric matrices exactly

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without brute forcing to find a failure

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x . y (dot product of x and y) = x1y1 + ... + xnyn >= 0 for all real values of x and y.

So if x . y = 0 then either x or y = 0 for the dot product to = 0.

If x = 0 then //x + y // = sqrt(y x y) = y

//x - y// = sqrt(-y x -y) = y

If Y = 0 then // x + y // and //x - y // becomes // x //

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and it gets confusing

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use \|

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\|\|x + y\|\| gives you ||x + y||

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or just use the latex bot

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Idk how to use latex catKing

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Find all values of the parameter (a \in R) for which the following inequality is valid for all (x \in R):

[1+log_5(x^2+1) \geq log_5(ax^2+4x+a)]

If the range of values of a can be expressed in the form of (A, B], then find the value of A + B.

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So 1 can be represented as (log_5(5)), afterwards we use the logarithm addition to product thingy and finally get (5(x^2+1) \geq ax^2+4x+a) which can be represented as ((a-5)x^2+4x+(a-5) \leq 0). We get one equation here and another one is just due to property of log that (ax^2+4x+a > 0). After that, to proceed I have to use the discriminant inequalities, as per the solution we take (D \leq 0) in the first equation, and also (D < 0) in the second equation. I don't understand why, I took (D \geq 0) in both equations assuming the roots to be real due to the inequality and got a different answer.

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usopper.

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Why should the roots be complex, because that is the only situation when we take D less than 0 right

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usopper.

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don't see a problem here

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if you take D>=0 and D>0 you won't get any a

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the answer should be (2; 3]

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Ah

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Let me try

cosmic gust
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Same answer as before, but it isn't the correct one. What is the reasoning behind taking D < 0

signal drum
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When you take D<0 we find parabola that has no solution

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if parabola is looking up then D<0 will get parabola that has values bigger than zero

signal drum
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Look at this

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Yeah, I get it now. You want it to be above or below the x-axis depending upon the inequality, otherwise it wouldn't be satisfied (>0 or <0 inequality in this case). So D cannot be > 0, correct?

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you get a є null set

signal drum
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there is no such point a that will belong to each region

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Oh my god

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How did I not see that...

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True

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That is some insane tunnel vision from my side lol, thanks. It is crystal clear now

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Hello, i dont understand how to do this at all. sorry, but can someone help me guide through this so i can understand it please?