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Oh yes it is
So since of theta is (2sqrt2)/3
For sin
What do i do for b c and d❓
do you know $\tan = \frac{\sin}{\cos}$
riemann
Bro's the type of guy to cancel the d's in dy/dx = y/x
,calc sin(acos(1/3))
Result:
0.94280904158206
,calc 2 sqrt(2) / 3
Result:
0.94280904158206
riemann
and yes
$\sin(90 - \th) = \cos(?)$
riemann
I do not know
you can draw it to find
I dont know what to draw
hope this will make you understand the identity
That makes sense i guess
What so i do with that info❓
Do i need to know the value of theta❓
Im confused
if csc = 1/sin, isn't csc(90-x) just 1/sin(90-x)?
Is x theta❓
same thing, i can use whatever i want as long as you understand what that is
so yea, x is theta
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Hello guys i need help to understand this, this is integration
are you asking why $\sqrt[3]{t^2}=t^{2/3}$?
LayneTheAndroid
I'm asking why is 1/3 = t^-1/3
it isn't
And also the circled stuff like how did they become that
is it this part
$2\frac{2}{\sqrt[3]{t}}\frac{1}{3}=\frac{4}{3}t^{-\frac{1}{3}}$
LayneTheAndroid
Yes
okay it's not that the 1/3 =t^(-1/3)
forget about the $\frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{t}}$ for now
LayneTheAndroid
Alr
To get that 4/3 you just multiplied all the non-t numbers, i.e. $2\cdot{2}\cdot{}\frac{1}{3}=\frac{4}{3}$
Yes
LayneTheAndroid
Then $\frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{t}}=\frac{1}{t^{1/3}}=t^{-1/3}$
LayneTheAndroid
does that make sense?
That 1/3 is the 3 on the bottom of 4/3
this step
I'm confused.
is this part clear?
like the +1/3 at the end?
That's+1/9
Okay so there are three terms in the integral
The term with the $\frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{t^2}}$
The middle term (which we've been talking about) with the $\frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{t}}$
And the last term that has no $t$ which I now see is +1/9
LayneTheAndroid
going between the expanded integral and the simplification of those terms, which are we talking about?
(i.e. the second equals sign)
okay
I'd count 2 and 3 together since everything there is multiplied together
and that's what we dealt with here
no worries
What about the last part
I'm a bit confused what the point of that is but it's not incorrect. Why does it go back and forth between exponent form and surd form?
No idea my teacher does it that way for some reason
i.e. $\frac{4}{3}\cdot\frac{1}{\frac{2}{3}}=2$ so it's not wrong
LayneTheAndroid
oh, I guess it's to check your solution because you can differentiate it easily to see if you get back what was in the integral
Yeah man, ofc I'm a pro too a saw it without a doubt 🤣
basically I think your teacherjust wants you to express things in the form a*t^b/b because if you differentiate that it's just a*t^(b-1) which you can compare to what's in the integral
So how did we get the last form
... well to be honest, the steps almost seem backwards to me
Because my teacher does it this way, and everyone online gets confused on my teacher's stuff
If you integrate $\frac{4}{3}t^{-\frac{1}{3}}$ then you you get exactly the expression in green
LayneTheAndroid
which can be simplified to theone the arrows point to
i.e. just use the usual rule for integrating something of the form at^b and you should see what I mean
Yeah man idk what you mean by that
do you know how to integrate $\frac{4}{3}t^{-\frac{1}{3}}$
LayneTheAndroid
No idea but it is usually something like 1/n+1 times x^n+1?
yes. you increase the power by one and then divide by the new power
Yeah idk why but mine isn't getting to that
could you show me your steps?
Like on paper on just write it here?
Alright one sec
Oh i think i know what went wrong
Idk what to do with 4/3
Because it has nothing to do with n like in the previous one
it just multiplies the term
so like
$\int{}x^n=\frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}$
$\int{}ax^n=a\frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}$
LayneTheAndroid
(in fact $\int{}af(x)=a\int{}f(x)$)
LayneTheAndroid
And it becomes the one that it points to?
yes it simplifies to that
and showing that is an exercise in multiplying fractions
Sooo how did we get that? 😅
so you're asking why
$\frac{4}{3}\cdot{}\frac{t^{\frac{2}{3}}}{\frac{2}{3}}=2\sqrt[3]{t^2}$?
rip
let me try again
Ofc
LayneTheAndroid
That's right
are you happy with why $t^{\frac{2}{3}}=\sqrt[3]{t^2}$?
LayneTheAndroid
Happy?
like you understand it
I accept it as it is yes I understand it
okay so the only thing is to show that
$\frac{4}{3}\cdot{}\frac{1}{\frac{2}{3}}=2$
LayneTheAndroid
This would be the help?
well if you know
a) $t^{\frac{2}{3}}=\sqrt[3]{t^2}$?
and
b) $\frac{4}{3}\cdot{}\frac{1}{\frac{2}{3}}=2$
then is it clear that
$\frac{4}{3}\cdot{}\frac{1}{\frac{2}{3}}t^{\frac{2}{3}}=2\sqrt[3]{t^2}$?
LayneTheAndroid
great
How about the one before that?
you know what steps do to because we did the middle one
integrate it (you should get the first term on the last line)
then simplify it using rules for simplifying fractions
So the t^1/3 will be okay but how about that 12 like not 4/3
so $4\frac{1}{3}=\frac{4}{3}$
But that isn't what you have here. You have
$4\frac{1}{\frac{1}{3}}$
LayneTheAndroid
i.e. 4 times (1 divided by 1/3)
Oh oookay
you can use the rule $1/(a/b)=b/a$
LayneTheAndroid
no worries. hope this helped.
I think you should definitely practice this kind of algebraic manipulation outside of the context of integrals. ideally using these rules and making these simplifications should be second nature when you do calculus because otherwise it just slows you down and distracts from learning the calculus itself
but you did understand it fairly quickly, so maybe just a quick refesher
Yeah ik , but we just started and i want to get it right, also will definitely practice
great, best of luck!
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i need help with financial maths
@acoustic hazel Has your question been resolved?
(Not entirely sure if I can help here, but) You gotta ask a more specific question than that
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I need help with algebra. I'm sorry for not knowing what exactly this is called because i don't know the words in english but basically i could use help with stuff like quadratic equations, factoring, high degree polynomial functions and inequations as i need to learn/improve on all.
Sounds like a job for khan academy
I think they have lessons in other languages as well
If you want you can send come questions here too
Yah we can help
I'll check it out. thanks.
@feral pumice Has your question been resolved?
What course should i do?
Algebra 1 or algebra 2
I'm doing algebra 1 rn but this seems to be different to what i was doing and way easier
I think those have your topics
Maybe you're at the start only
Yeah i'll see.
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Should i say yes for now and ask for help again if i need it?
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In a right triangular prism, the sides of the base are
13 cm, 21 cm, and 20 cm. A section is drawn through the lateral edge of the prism and the average height of the base along
the length, the area of which is
63 cm^2. Find the volume of the prism.
I found the area of the base triangle (ABC), but I don't know how to find h (the height)
Are 13, 14, and 15 the sides of the right triangle part
13 20 21 sorry
13, 20, 21 arent valid sides of a right triangle
13 20 21 are the sides of the base triangle
right triangular prism means the prisms height isnt slanted, does not mean it has to be a right triangle (aka 90 degree angle)
do you get what I mean?
basically means it cannot look like this
because the "height" is slanted
therefore it cannot be a right prism
im confident I did this correctly I do not know how to find the height from here
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im trying to understand your question
the whole thing or just what I'm having trouble with?
Hey sorry, I thought I created a channel but apparently I did not
no worries, hopefully you find a solution!
actually the whole thing
im given a shape (right triangular prism)
i dont understand how they cut it actually
yes with base dimensions 13 20 21
oh yeah i had trouble with that part too
i have 13 20 21, it's cut through the base side that is 20
its translated so maybe theres smt off with it
but what I drew is correct and I found the area of the triangle so all I need is heaight
uhh i still don't get it
like which of the base it is cutting with
so we can find the dimensions of that rectangle
one of the dimensions of that rectangular cross section is the height which we have to find
other is smth like altitude of one of the base or smth
the crossed out part we know it's area does that not help w anything?
yea
and its dimensions looks like to be altitude of one of the base the height of the prism
i got it
@manic kelp
yea?
got it
you see one of the triangles
with side 20 cm
its height is actually one of the dimensions of the rectangle
and the another dimension is the height of the prism
lets assume i can find that side then
ill try what you're saying one sec
ik the answer i need to get is V=630
you can find the height of side 20 cm and then substitute that height in area of rectangle formula to find the height
you'll get 5 cm height
height prism
and for base triangle with side 20 you can calculate its height that will be around 12.6
wait ill name it so its easier to talk abt sides)
yess
yeah you you can find AK
From AKC?
nah
yk the area of triangle
from the area of triangle you can find AK
reverse calculation of 1/2 base height formula
126 = 1/2 b h
126=10h
126 = 1/2 20 h
yea ok
yea
so then 12,6 times 2 cus the two sides thats 25,2
now you have one of the dimensions of the rectangle
63-25,2
bro you finding area
not perimeter
😭
area of region is given
oh
you can use area of rectangle formula to find height of prism now
63=12,6*x
yessir
thats 5
uhh it depends on problems you'll learn with more practice
im in my last year of high school i still haven't learned🥹
but yea i got it we have 5 the height and ik the base area so 126*5 right and thats 630 the volume i was supposed to get
tysm
don't worry i was bad at math till my second last year of highschool too
yeah thats it
i like algebra more i hate rewriting formulas
same i like algebra more too
another question, could I have found this from akc? @spare kettle
oh so i couldn't assume kc is 10?
and its exactly a right angled triangle so
or any other number
yeah
how would i solve it w trigonometry I mean i have a right angle and side can i do anything w that
its not a right angle actually
i think
nah how else would it be sliced then no..?
uhhh well it is right angle but
you can't exactly find the
base lenght
cuz its not cutting at mid point
thats not smt i can assume?
you can't assume on midpoint
because its not cutting at midpoint
if it was an isosceles triangle then you could have
and then ig i cant just assume it to be 12 or smt
how would i solve this w trigonometry though or is that smt you'd rather not get into, i dont need the actual solution just like the general direction of what steps to take in that case
you can solve this w trignometry
you do have a right angled triangle
whose 1 side yk
and 1 angle you can find
as well
using the cosine rule
but its rather a longer solution
but its still doable completely
not hard at all
happens.. i got shouted for it 3 times.. in the same class
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can someone please help me with these problems?
i'm not sure, i'm so confused 😭
a quadrilateral with two different pairs of parallel sides
also another quadrilateral with two pairs of parallel sides?
oh-
ohh
Do u know why is that?
because it perpendicular?
Not really
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i'm cooked i don't understand any of this
Its basic geometry?
the lesson is called Figures in the Coordinate Plane
yeah
Do u know the quadrilateral basis?
i'm not sure
If a quadrilateral has 1 pair of opposite side parallel, what thats called?
idk a trapezoid?? 😭
YEP
And parallelogram is just trapezoid but 2 pairs of opposite side parallel
U can think parallelogram is a stricter version of the trapezoid
ok
Rectangle is just parallelogram with 1 angle = 90deg
ok
You might say
Thats not true
Rectangle's all 4 angles all equal 90
Not just 1, right?
yeah
Because of parallelogram definition, opposite angle = each other
So
if 1 angle = 90 deg, the opposite = 90
The others 2 = each other and the sum = 180. Thus each = 180/2 = 90
So u get a rectangle
A rectangle is just a "stricter" version of the parallelogram
So
What the correct answer
YES!
LP perpendicular to PN would make P = 90deg
Which convert LMNP from parallelogram to rectangle
For this question
It already gave u AB and AC
You need to find BC
You can count...
But u should use the distance formula in case in your test, u encounter something hard
is the distance for BC also 10?
yeah
.
yep
omg tysm, i'm not cooked
Use this
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( do you remember what does integration actually means? )
no cuh
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Good, there is another application of integration, think.
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no but g(x)
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Area under graph.
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Can you think of how we can find g(-1)?
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Bro is STILL not locked in
area of a triangle is base times height / 2?
Hello
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g(-1) = integration of f(x) with respect to x from -1 to 0.
This means area under graph from x = -1 to x = 0.
Tho, since the upper limit is opposite, the answer might be negative.
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I can help
just always write the lower number of this bottom
And if you swap the places like here
Yes sir.
Throw a negative outside
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No. You didn't integrate.
Area of a triangle
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Integration lowkey means area under graph. ✨
Sir are you distrusting college board ap frqs 🤓
Focus on one thing at a time.
Find the definite Integral, THEN find g(1).
NO. Integration means area under graph.
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This.
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Alright they got this
👏👍
Ima say more one thing just rember on b and c parts to use only the graph f to justify your answers
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Well, you have to represent that with X
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Let’s take a pause and start from the beginning. What is f(t)?
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Yes
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I believe it involves an absolute value
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Uh huh
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You’re on the right track
There’s a constant
The constant is usually f(0) (for single-variable functions)
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Correct!
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Now you’re going to Integrate that
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Bro what
Stop
Just do the area under the curve
Don’t find the function
That’s such a waste of time
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???
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2nd ftc
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Differentiate both sides, with respect to x.
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You'll need to know function for this, or there could be another approach.
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They gave you a graph. You can make function from this.
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Bro
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Another approach is to actually make the function, but for parts, piescwise. Since as you can see the graph changes.
Yeah.
For the other 2 frqs
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kenzo
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???
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No
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It's fine.
Do you know your problem now?
Is it solved?
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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
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not integrals
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yes.
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How? Explain.
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Yes.
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It is asking us where g(x) is increasing.
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And g(x) is integration of f(x).
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Integration of f(x) means..area under graph.
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G(x) increases. Integration of f(x) increases. Area under graph increases.
Not necessarily. But it should just increase.
You know if a value move from. -100000 to -10 it is still increasing, while still being negative.
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Not necessarily. Area below x axis is considered negative.
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"graph"??
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Area under graph you mean
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No, the area under graph actually decreases from -1 to 0.
You see, as you move from -1 to 0, you can see the area under graph reducing, can you visualise
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Yes! It is increasing in that part.
But if you move ahead from 1
The area starts decreasing, as we're getting area from below x axis now!
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Now let's check what happens in (-2, -1)...
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You see, when we check the area under graph from (-2,0) it's 0.
Why? Because the area below x axis and above x axis is same.
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Can you see it?
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@jolly sail
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Now, move that dashed line from y = -2 to something more closer to -1
( pic incoming )
@jolly sail
What do you think, is area positive now or negative?
The area below x axis just decreased as we moved towards -1, while area above x axis is same as before!
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Reasoning?
Can you see that?
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Not necessarily.
It will increase until its x = -1.
After that, it will decrease until its x = 0
Move that strip and check
Visualise it
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Yes!
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As the area forces from above x axis and below x axis were equal 🚓🚨
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The area from below x axis is decreasing!
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Note that we're doing this for an interval, where maximum is 0.
As we are currently not looking at the graph past 0.
Because of lower limit in the integral itself.
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So move the strip, and tell me all the intervals where area is increasing!
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You know, answer me.
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It really depends
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There is clearly some area
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Yes
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It is decreasing, good!
The area is becoming negative
What about interval (-1,0)?? @jolly sail
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are you guys in a)?
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Don't consider that region, just consider the (-1,0)
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Ues
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Slowly move from x = -1 to x = 0... @jolly sail
Look at the area..
The triangle becoming BIG
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no.
The triangle is increasing???
The triangle is getting bigger???
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Yeah
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See??
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And area is bh/2
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As h increases
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Bh/2 increases
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Find me the other interval using same concepts.
Where the area is strictly increasing.
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Good.
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Yes!
The area starts decreasing
I think you got your answers now.
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No worries. ^^
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given that 3^(1/x)=7^(1/y)=63^(1/z), express z in terms of x and y
approach: took logs on both sides but stuck after that
let $a$ be the common value of all three of these quantities
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then $a^x = 3, a^y = 7, a^z = 63 = 7 \cdot 9...$
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Hey, can someone help me with this dot product? I have A=30, 20º and B=40,120º
I can do the dot product like this AB=30.40Cos(100) and I'm getting -207.37
But I also tried by coordinates, which I think should be (28.190, 10) and (-20, 2sqrt(3)), but I'm getting around -500 here
I don't think there should be a difference, what am i doing wrong??
oh
A=30, 20º and B=40,120º
what does this notation mean
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that would be the magnitude and angle
I had somewhere else that for B the y coordinate was 2sqrt 3 but that was incorrect haha
I was just assuming what I had before was correct
but nope
should be around 34, probably that will fix it
but thanks!!
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please can someone help me construct this in geogebra?
answer is 4 and the triangle is not rigid, meaning the answer is independent but not completely
ping if help thanks
Sigma sigma boys
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? is 9-5 no matter the values
example.. if it was 10 instead of 9 and 4 instead of 5, ? would be 6
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to work with it
its alright
u could ask chatgpt
its pretty bad at those kind of things
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how did you prove that?
i have some ideas, firstly we know that there are 4 degrees of freedom
this means we know 2 points, or a circle and a point on the circle
i feel we should assume the two weirest points, but that leaves one degree of freedom
bo actually it takes 4 degs if freedom
do we know the dashed blue distance?
constructed the problem on any triangle and checked the results
nope
i feel like i dont use geogebra to its fullest ability
this must be constructable
it is
the locus of G given D is a conic
A is a random point
B is a random point at ditance 9 from A
C is a random point at ditsnace 4 from A
now D is a point at distance 5 from C, E is where DC intersect externagle angle bisector of ABC, DG is the line tangent to the the circle centered at C, and EG is the angle bisector of BEG
Since you know the locus of G, intersect it with the internal angle bisector of ABC
you can find the conic using any random 5 points, and using conic through 5 points
that is the incenter
from here you can eaduly find the remaining points
there probly are better methods, but this is the most obvious one
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also this is beside the point, but i have seen you post many nice geometry qns, where do you get them?
i was binge solving a lot of geometry problems from wherever i could find them this summer
there was some problems i couldnt solve and i saved them
cant know the exact source but most of them were from small twitter accounts or blog posts
oh
im pretty sure some of them were from the same source
like these two
maybe you can reverse search and find
9 8 5 problem and its solution is absolutely insane tho
i liked thr proof type qns more
hat is it?
lemme send the solution
requires a lot of complex
oh
9 8 5 makes it special in some way tho
that is inversion stuff, right?
hm
yeah
in any case, the red length will be equal to upper tangent length
but when its 9 8 5, B, I and E are colinear
Oh
solution to this also requires complex analysis
solutions are not by me btw
Complex analysis as in difficult synth or as in complex bash?
2nd
Hm
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What’s wrong
Nah, I just have no idea how to start on this, sorry for the spam