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upper abyss
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Yeesh

nocturne furnace
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yeah it worked tysm!

upper abyss
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That's not to take away the awful webassign happening here

nocturne furnace
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yeah I only have one more math class then I'm done with webassign

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I enjoy math just not some of the hw lmao

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ancient vortex
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Hi, I managed to get to the point highlighted in the screenshot but not sure how to make the jump to the final correct answer

nocturne furnace
ancient vortex
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This is the question

nocturne furnace
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did you work out multipling both sides by 1+ln(t+1)?

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that will get rid of the fraction at least for now

ancient vortex
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I don't really understand how that would help me get to t = 26/1+ln(t+1) - 1

nocturne furnace
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honestly I suck at simplifying too but I'd imagine its a weird factoring trick

ancient vortex
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Probably something stupid simple that I'm somehow missing 😅

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glad mortar
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Can someone walk me through on how to solve this

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hearty arch
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I just want to point out maybe one thing to notice, which is that the cosine function has a very strict range of outputs. whatever you put into the cosine function, it will spit out a value between 1 and -1.

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so pcos(5x) can only output values between 1*p and -1*p

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no matter the input of x, pcos(5x) only outputs values between p and -p

glad mortar
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but thank you so much I understand now

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I just had to sub 0 for x into cos to find the maximum

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then I solve it

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cos(5(0)) = 1

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so p + q <= 0

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then bring q over

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p<=-q

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answer si c

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hearty arch
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cos(0) is 1

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glad mortar
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p*1 = p

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tranquil ivy
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Hello! So I have a couple of months free so I decided to refine and relearn my math foundations. Currently in sets and proofs and I’m doing these little exercises.

tranquil ivy
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So number 5, I looked it up on Desmos and apparently there is more than one solution, 3 AND -1. But how can I prove that on paper?

warm crescent
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it doesn't matter

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I think P only if Q is read P --> Q

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n=3 --> n^2-2n-3=0

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T --> T is a true statement

tranquil ivy
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Sorry if all of this is really basic . Anyway would “only if” not imply <—> or I have that wrong?

warm crescent
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to be honest, trying to interpret some expressions as they are read in English could be ambiguous

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P only if Q, P then Q: P --> Q

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P if and only if Q, P is equivalent to Q: P <--> Q

tranquil ivy
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Makes sense! Even I get confused because “only if” and “if and only if” kind of just sound redundant on their own 😅

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But thank you so much. For now my concern is resolved.

warm crescent
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the most common are probably

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if P then Q, Q if P, P therefore Q: P --> Q

tranquil ivy
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Noted. Thanks a lot

warm crescent
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to explain a bit, P only if Q means P is T when Q is T

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looking a truth table would make sense to have P --> Q

tranquil ivy
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That enlightened me a bit!

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i see the idea now

warm crescent
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ok I was about to send an image but ok

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the value of P doesn't matter

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but if Q is false, then P-->Q is false

tranquil ivy
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Yeah sorry if I am rushing you too 😭 just the way I type please don’t worry

tranquil ivy
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Thank you : )

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livid stratus
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how do you determine if a function is equal to another function

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would just saying "they have the same domain" enough?

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well i think no because if you take for example

hot crag
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no??

livid stratus
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1/x-2 and 2/x-2

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they both have the same domain

hot crag
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x^3 and x^2 for example have domain of all reals

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yes

livid stratus
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yeah

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so how can u determine then

hot crag
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they must have the same domain and same range i think

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wait-- no

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same example

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xD

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,w range of 1/(x-2)

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hot crag
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,w range of 2/(x - 2)

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hot crag
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yea see

livid stratus
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yea

flint plinth
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equality means they have the same domain and they send they satisfy f(x) = g(x) for every x in the domain

livid stratus
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now if i gave u a function

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would u sit there

flint plinth
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and technically they need to have the same codomain too

livid stratus
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and plug every number in the domain?

livid stratus
flint plinth
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like:

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f : A -> B

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A is the domain, B is the codomain

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the image is some subset of B, not necessarily all of B

livid stratus
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isnt it just how the function is written

flint plinth
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and let's say you have f(x) = exp(x)

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and g(x) = exp(x)

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where f : R -> R

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and g : R -> R+

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(where R+ are the positive real numbers)

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they "look like" the same function

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but f has a larger codomain

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in particular it's not surjective

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whereas g is

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so technically they are not the same function

livid stratus
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if their codomain is R and R+ which i dont even know what codomain is but i guess its what i think of it, could u even say they both are equal to exp(x)?

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R - > R+ seems to be some kinda function with a root in its denominator so that only positive real numbers are in domain

flint plinth
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well that's the point, the definition / specification of the function isn't complete unless you specify the domain and the codomain

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and (at least from a set theoretic point of view), f and g above are not the same function even though they have the same domain and satisfy f(x) = g(x) for all x in the domain

livid stratus
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yeah

flint plinth
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in many situations we don't bother making the distinction, but in other cases it matters, really depends on context

livid stratus
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they both satisfy that for all their domains, but their codomains are different

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so the first step in these type of questions would be to look at the functions domains

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thanks for ur help

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gloomy snow
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How do i do this theres a example in the second picture

hollow yarrow
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bro

gloomy snow
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What💀

hollow yarrow
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can u convert to english

mint garnet
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calculate the total no.of shapes first

gloomy snow
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Im so ass at math dont judge me Lmao

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mint garnet
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then calculate blue or red shapes

gloomy snow
mint garnet
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then divided blue or red/total x 100

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you got your percentage

gloomy snow
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Yeah but look wait

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Do yk what this means x) the x means a random number

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For example 7)

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  1. means like a multiply thingy
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And i dont know what to multiply it with

hollow yarrow
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wheres 7)

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gloomy snow
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Noo

Like in that problem i have to write first that how many patterns are there and theres 16 so /16 and then it asks how many blue or red patterns there are so if i chose blue theres 8 blue patters so 8/16 now i have to multiplie it with a number but i dont know why and i dont know with which number

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This is where im at

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crimson sedge
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Whats the problem?

violet obsidian
crimson sedge
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Im lost at that paper

violet obsidian
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what u asking frfr

crimson sedge
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Shshhs, you are doing an investigation. The best thing you should do is ask help HEAVILY to your teacher or whoever is your examiner for this. You are asking for one question from your investigation i doubt NOT that youll have more questions in the future.

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@worthy hawk this

worthy hawk
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Investigation questions as linked

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The investigation part is q1-5

worthy hawk
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And ye i prollybwill im not comfortable with investigation papers

crimson sedge
# worthy hawk My teacher’s really busy and theres no examiner so i asked here

You have to know what your investigation is all about. I am DEFINITELY sure that you dont know the whole math stuff that you should do to answer each and every question to your investigation. You have to learn the solutions for each questions. You must ask your teacher for help for all of that. You dont have time for procrastination. You must focus on learning the solutions.

worthy hawk
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I got the equation

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But i dont know what to do moving forwards

crimson sedge
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I had the same experience too, thats how i know.

worthy hawk
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I attempted the 5b too but it says more than 2 teams and the 2 roots i got one is 2 and other is less

crimson sedge
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You gotta ask a lot of help to pass your investigation.

worthy hawk
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R u in igcse?

crimson sedge
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No

worthy hawk
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Ye so mine and ur investigation papers arent same

crimson sedge
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But i know the feeling of not being able to figure out the investigation paper you have

worthy hawk
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There is 1 investigation and 1 modelling question in paper 6 of 0607 for me

crimson sedge
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Trust me, i know the feeling.

worthy hawk
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So what do i do

crimson sedge
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Yep, it seems like u have something more on your way

worthy hawk
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Look the teacher is busy with higher grades’ mock exams

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10th and 12th grade

crimson sedge
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Ask your teacher and other math teachers for help. Take notes of what they say to you.

worthy hawk
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He has to correct em

worthy hawk
crimson sedge
worthy hawk
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Itll take a lot of tome

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Fot him to get back to me

crimson sedge
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You know you have your faults too for not focusing on your classes sufficiently.

worthy hawk
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Bro

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Im in the accelarated batch

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That means theres 2 math courses pf 2 years each

crimson sedge
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Then you know all the details about it.

worthy hawk
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Which we havr to cover in 2 tears total

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And p6 investigation wuestion

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We have just done 1 in class

crimson sedge
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You have to be strong

worthy hawk
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Ok bro thanks

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Not only smart, but mentally VERY STRONG

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fathom star
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6 - (-7) = 14
-2 - 7 = -9
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queen marlin
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yurp

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whats the issue

fathom star
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Its wrong

queen marlin
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its v-u

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not u-v

fathom star
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...

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oh

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welp, alright then.

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Thanks lol

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nw

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robust aspen
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What's the strategy for 2.5 * 10^2x = 7.5 -10x These are two fuctions who we want to find where they intersect, with other words where thay are equal to each other, what do I do now?

robust aspen
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I know I can both divide by 2.5 and add 10x

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to isolate the answer

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10x + 10^2x = 3

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then what

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are you supposed to rewrite 10x

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to like (10^1)x

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Cause I suspect you are supposed to use log to get that exponetial down

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?

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hey

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need some help

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hardy prawn
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i got k from the example problems at the beginning of the lesson for c-14 but my teacher pretty much expects us to use class notes rather than that and i have 2 missing variables rather than just 1

hardy prawn
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thats how i got k

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im doing question 8 btw i did all other questions

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hold up i think i came up with smth

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nvm

carmine bronze
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What was your thought?

hardy prawn
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y=1/2*a but that didnt lead to anything but a false equation

carmine bronze
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Let's say you had an arbitrary original mass of a = 100, would you be able to calculate what y equals?

hardy prawn
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i thought that edits the msg

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it doesnt give how much c14 is left

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it only provides 2 variables

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out of 4

carmine bronze
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You don't need to know how much is left, you only need to know the percentage of the original amount left.

hardy prawn
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OHHHH

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ty

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i think i got it now

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vital nova
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How is (x^2) > 5 equal to x < -√5 & x > √5? Can someone prove this? I mainly need help understanding why (x^2) > 5 is equal to x < -√5, and why it changed the inequality sign. Thanks!

modern sparrow
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firstly, do you agree that the solution (root) to x^2=5 is sqrt(5) and -sqrt(5)?

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modern sparrow
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ok good, so rearranging x^2>5 to x^2-5>0, the question is basically what values of x, such that f(x) = x^2 -5 is greater than 0 right?

vital nova
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Yes

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Right

modern sparrow
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cool, now let's draw the graph of f(x)

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it looks like this

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where the roots are at x = +- sqrt(5)

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so remember the question is, when is f(x) > 0?

vital nova
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When it is above the minimum?

modern sparrow
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not quite

vital nova
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Wait sorry

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Im slow

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When it is less than -root 5, bigger than root 5

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Ohhhh

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vital nova
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Okay thank you I understand now

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you're welcome

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Have a blessed day dude

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proven vale
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looking for help with how to find an explicit formula from a sequence

proven vale
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the sequence is {2, 3, 6, 15, 45, 157.5} and I know the explicit formula is n!*2^2-n but i have no idea how to go from the sequence to that formula

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like the workflow

buoyant latch
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Is there more context to this problem

proven vale
buoyant latch
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Try writing explicitly what a₂ and a₃ looks like

proven vale
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a2 = (2x2)/2 = 2
a3 = (3x2)/2 = 3
a4 = (5x6)/2 = 15

pallid python
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u go through the sequence and simplify it

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and u will get the pattern I guess

proven vale
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i guess so, professor introduced sequences and never did any problems involving factorials then gave us this, thx for helping 🔥

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rare sundial
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can someone explain how to do this

silver forge
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what is the perimeter of the rectangle?

rare sundial
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yes

silver forge
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do u know?

rare sundial
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no

silver forge
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like an expression

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how do u find the perimeter

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of a rectangle

rare sundial
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you add the perimeter

silver forge
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u add all the sides right?

rare sundial
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yes

silver forge
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so what is x+7+x+1?

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$x+7+x+1$

wraith daggerBOT
silver forge
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like simplified?

rare sundial
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x8

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2x+8

silver forge
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correct

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wait

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so we did that right

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but we just added 2 sides

rare sundial
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yes

silver forge
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perimeter of a rectangle is
2(length plus width)

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so we multiply the expression by 2

rare sundial
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alr

silver forge
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what do we get now?

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2 (2x+8)?

rare sundial
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4x+16

silver forge
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correct

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now how do we find the perimeter of a triangle?

rare sundial
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we do the same thing

silver forge
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so what is the perimeter in terms of x for the triangle?

rare sundial
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4x

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4x+16

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3x+37

silver forge
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correct

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now they say that the perimeters r equal

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so $4x+16 = 3x+37$

wraith daggerBOT
silver forge
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now solve for x

rare sundial
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i got 21

silver forge
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that is correct

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u r done

rare sundial
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wait

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i have 1 more

silver forge
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sure

rare sundial
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i got 10 but says its wrong

queen marlin
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10 sounds right

rare sundial
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alr

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ill just ask my teacher later

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wary estuary
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Could somebody verify if that makes sense? Can’t really verify and qwould like to know if im on the right track.

wary estuary
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Sorry about the dark picture

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I feel like I missed something lol

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Now I'm sure it's incorrect though, but no clue where

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i’m curious what’s wrong with this false proof

harsh ledge
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(1/i)^2 = -1

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?

granite hill
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i think they multiplied by i in both sides

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not squared

harsh ledge
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oh

frigid escarp
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Maybe 5?

rigid lava
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sqrt(a/b) isn't equal to sqrt(a)/sqrt(b)

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so sqrt(1/-1) != sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1)

frigid escarp
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That would be i(1/1)

rigid lava
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?

frigid escarp
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I’m agreeing with you

granite hill
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isn’t that what i is ?

frigid escarp
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They didn’t sqrt properly

ionic finch
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i think the \sqrt{ab}=sqrt{a}sqrt{b} holds iff both a, b >=0

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i didn't tex

frigid escarp
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I’m just trying to visualise this

rigid lava
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i^2 = -1 is how the imagiary number is defined, but the equation z^2 = -1 has two solutions, i and -i

rigid lava
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the LHS gets the solution i, where as the RHS gets the solution 1/i = -i

frigid escarp
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sqrt(4/16) = 2/4 = 1/2

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So possibly this rule could hold true

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(1/i)^2 does equal 1/-1

shut meadow
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it is true iirc

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1/i is i^3 iirc

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or -i

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so like its iffy

frigid escarp
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i^3 is -i

rigid lava
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the counter example is literally in the screenshot

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sqrt(1/-1) != sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1)

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LHS is i, RHS is -i

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The diagram below represents a cross section through a focusing lens used in solar panels to concentrate the rays of the sun to a focal point (P). Point O is the centre of the lens, Point D lies on the circumference and lines AP and BP are two mirrored tangents from the circumference of the lens to the focal point, P.
Angle ADB on the circumference is 75°.

Determine, with geometric reasoning, angle APB.

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i hate bearings

hollow totem
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We meet again

quiet girder
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oh hi

hollow totem
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Hmm

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Im not gonna give out answer but will guide u to get it

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thanks

hollow totem
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Now, for angle APB, how do u think we can get it

quiet girder
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figure out circmufrence?

hollow totem
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Nope

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Here's the hint

quiet girder
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label the P angle?

hollow totem
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no

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See the shape?

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What is it?

quiet girder
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a triaganle

hollow totem
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no...

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Its a quadrilateral

quiet girder
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HUH

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OH RIGHT

hollow totem
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Now whats the total sum of all angle of the quadrilateral?

quiet girder
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180?

hollow totem
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no

quiet girder
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😭

hollow totem
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Google it

quiet girder
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360!

hollow totem
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Okay

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In that quadrilateral, whats angle we already known/ given by the problem?

quiet girder
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A AND B

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90 90

hollow totem
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Good

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So?

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To find APB we only need to find?

quiet girder
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what eequals 360? 90+90=180

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360

hollow totem
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Take a look at the quadrilateral again

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How many angles are there in a quadrilateral

quiet girder
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3?

hollow totem
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tri-angle...

turbid pilot
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the struggle is real

hollow totem
quiet girder
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OH

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4

turbid pilot
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keep working at it

hollow totem
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We know 2

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There's 4

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So there's 2 unknown angle

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one of which is the angle we need to find

hollow totem
quiet girder
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P

hollow totem
hollow totem
quiet girder
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yea

hollow totem
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We know A and B

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So in order to find P we need to find?

quiet girder
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90 90

quiet girder
hollow totem
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whats the other angle?

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U should start use 3 letters to call an angle

quiet girder
hollow totem
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im confused? right angle?

hollow totem
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Look at this

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A and B = 90 right

quiet girder
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yep

hollow totem
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but i want u to call it by 3 letter name

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For example P angle in 3 letters name is APB

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So A and B in 3 angles name = ?

quiet girder
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aob?

hollow totem
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no

quiet girder
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APB

hollow totem
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no

quiet girder
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abd?

hollow totem
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angle P = APB = BPA

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The only thing matters is the middle letter = the that angle

quiet girder
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OH

hollow totem
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usually, we put a hat on it to indicate its an angle

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So for angle A?

pallid python
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This is not helping

quiet girder
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So angle A in 3 letters format?

hollow totem
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😭

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oh hell no

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this is hard

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what

hollow totem
quiet girder
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i thought the letter

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Oh

hollow totem
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How this is hard...

quiet girder
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so

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BAO

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oab

hollow totem
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no...

quiet girder
hollow totem
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Its really logical

quiet girder
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i dont understand i put the A in the middle

hollow totem
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So

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for angle P

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We get it by travelling from A to P to B

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So P = APB

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Now

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For A, why would we travel from what to A then to what?

quiet girder
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for angle A i travel to

hollow totem
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from .... to A to ......

quiet girder
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a to o to b? a to p to b

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idk

hollow totem
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A need to be in the middle

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So we need to select 2 points

quiet girder
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OH

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B to a to P?

hollow totem
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Why B?

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B doesnt connect to A?

quiet girder
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O to A to P

hollow totem
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Cause if B connect to A we get a triangle

hollow totem
quiet girder
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ohh

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FINNALY

pallid python
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pallid python
hollow totem
quiet girder
pallid python
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not L

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is engle

quiet girder
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OH

hollow totem
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Now, to find APB, we have 2 facts:

  1. Sum of angle in quadrilateral = 360
  2. OAP = OBP = 90
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So we need to find what?

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Hmm

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@quiet girder Express the sum of all angle = 360 please

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Write all angle down

quiet girder
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mmmm

hollow totem
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here's the pic

quiet girder
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It says O is 150?

hollow totem
quiet girder
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so thats why o is 150

hollow totem
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yeah but im trying to teach u why we need to find O at the first place

quiet girder
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oh

hollow totem
# hollow totem

The quadrilateral sum of angle = 360; we know 2 angles and the P is the angle we need to find, thus by finding O, we can get P

hollow totem
quiet girder
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i didnt even read that i just rember this from class

hollow totem
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Due to the radius of circle, I connect O to D and it would be a isosceles
And angle ODA=OAD=75/2
Due to the internal angle of a triangle =180 hence angle AOD=180-75/2-75/2=105
Angle AOD+BOD=2angle AOD=105*2=210
Minor Angle AOB=360-210=150
Internal angle of quadrilateral =360
360-90-90-150=30

hollow totem
quiet girder
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so do i just find out the other number

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360-230=130??

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😭

hollow totem
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Nope

quiet girder
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oh

hollow totem
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150 + 90 +90 +P = 360

quiet girder
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OH

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so its 30?

hollow totem
quiet girder
hallow linden
quiet girder
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so thats angle APB?

hollow totem
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U made a mistake here

quiet girder
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Yeah i relized now

hollow totem
quiet girder
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OHH

hollow totem
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Thats 150 = 75 * 2

quiet girder
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so 30 is APB?

pallid python
hollow totem
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Good job

quiet girder
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ok great

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thank u!!

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i wont fail now

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🥳

hollow totem
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practice more

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I'm stuck

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what happens when you switch some bases around

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Lemme try

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things should cancel out a bit

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I had to draw a Hasse diagram for this assignment and I don’t exactly know what it means when it tells me to order it by set inclusion. Is this close to right? And what does that specific description of order mean in this context? Thanks!

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very simple question here

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i honestly have no idea what to choose for A, B, C, im not creative enough, the problem is super easy after finding these

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problem is, I am not creative enough to think of such an A, B, C

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obviously, we let U = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5}

rigid lava
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double check me but i think A,C = U and B = {} works

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good point

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thank you

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👍

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lol, almost missed that detail entirely

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oh

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then

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let B be a singleton

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and A=C=U

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okay, i think that works

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in fact, B could be any non empty subset of U, and A=C=U should work

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how do you even begin? i tried differentiating a constant 4 times to get the general deflection formula and using the small deflection condition i figured out what dy/dx needs to equal. im not sure if that right

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could anyone explain why ln(k-4) = ln(p) and k - 3 = 8? is that a log rule or?

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you should give more context

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but it looks like they just grouped the ln terms together and the non ln terms together

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need help understanding how the 1/2(c-1)^-1/2 becomes (sqr(4)-sqr(1))/3

runic garnet
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is the original function y = sqrt(x-1)

vocal patio
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yes

runic garnet
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did u understand the previous step

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f(5) - f(2) / 5 - 2

vocal patio
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i understand the numerator, but idk why it needs the denominator part

runic garnet
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thats how you go about mean value theorem problems

vocal patio
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ooh the sqr is just from the original function

runic garnet
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exactly

vocal patio
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ah i see

runic garnet
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f(5) = sqrt(5-1) = sqrt(4)

vocal patio
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thanks!

runic garnet
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np

vocal patio
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wait

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one last question

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could you explain the reasoning for the denominator part in the mean value theorem?

runic garnet
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f(b) - f(a) / (b-a) gives u the slope of the secant between the two endpoints. in our case, the endpoints are 2 and 5. the f(b) - f(a) represents the net change in the function (change in y), and the b-a represents the change in x.

vocal patio
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OOOHHH

runic garnet
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believe it or not i just realized that too xD

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i dont think anyone ever explained it to me that way

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but it makes sense

vocal patio
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so since the f'(c) is basically the slope at c, you need a rise over run thing, so its numerator being the y axis change, and denominator being the x change?

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so change in y / change in x becomes the slope at c

runic garnet
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yea, thats the essence of the MVT. the instantaneous slope at a point C in the interval [a,b] will equal the slope of the secant line connecting (a,f(a)) and (b,f(b))

vocal patio
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could you please clarify secant?

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ik its supposed to be 1/sin

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or something like that

runic garnet
vocal patio
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but like, whats its importance?

runic garnet
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secant line means average rate of change between two points

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its also just a line passing through 2 points

runic garnet
vocal patio
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ok i see

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this the same secant right?

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just line between two points

runic garnet
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yes, exactly. its just in that image, we're applying the concept to a circle

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awesome man! clarified so much in short span of time

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appreciate it!

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@pastel vault did u just killsteal me LOL

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I technically didn't say anything

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xD

pastel vault
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xdxd

runic garnet
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bro i do that all the time

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didnt know someone would do it to me

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karmas real ig

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@runic garnet when solving mean value theorem, i have to prove that its continuous by showing that its differentiable, and that for f(x) for x subset of [1,2] f(x) = 0, and that f'(c) can be differentiated to a value?

runic garnet
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prove cont. by showing differentiable?

vocal patio
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yea

runic garnet
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also, why f(x) = 0 ?

vocal patio
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to show that when x is 1 or 2, f(x) = 0... idk i just thought it would be same for mean value if its same for rolles?

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or am i wrong there

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im not sure, i recommend just opening a new channel and asking there cuz this one is gonna close soon

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ok, thanks!

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its alrdy closed, dw, itll fully close soon

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uhhh would my answer be correct?

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im not sure if i answered the question correctly 😭

pastel vault
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ohhhhh

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okok got it

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thank youu

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No worries

candid cosmos
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but thats for all of them?

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sin, cos, and tan?

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i mean the ones where i can put 7, i can?

pastel vault
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Yeah so sin 60 is indeed correct

candid cosmos
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uhuhhh

pastel vault
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Yeah you've gotten all of them correct

candid cosmos
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WOOOOO

pastel vault
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There is more than one way to do it

candid cosmos
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truee

pastel vault
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But I would use the fact that a 30-60-90 triangle has side lengths 1, sqrt(3), and 2

candid cosmos
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mhm

pastel vault
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So if AC = 7, that corresponds to the sqrt(3)

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So you need to multiply everything by 7/sqrt(3)

candid cosmos
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so it's safer to put AB and BC for the trigos?

candid cosmos
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candid cosmos
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uhuhh

pastel vault
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So the trig ratios will all be the same

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But anyways

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yeahh i got ittt

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thanks for checkingg 🙏

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No worries

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huhhh what do i find?

modern sparrow
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yuhh

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no

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😔

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absolute value of v

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?

modern sparrow
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it means the magnitude the vector v

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i.e. the length

candid cosmos
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yeahh

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how do i find the vector?

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im not sure i know what to do with the line

modern sparrow
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and assuming each square represent 1 unit (in vertical and horizontal distance)

candid cosmos
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uhhuhhh

modern sparrow
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then it's 7 across and 1 up from A to B right?

candid cosmos
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yes

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soooo the vector is 1/7?

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rise over run?

modern sparrow
candid cosmos
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oh, so slope then

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buttt vector is different im assuming

modern sparrow
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yes, you're asked the length of v

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just think of AB as a hypotheneuse

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of a triangle

candid cosmos
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mhm

modern sparrow
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with width 7 and height 1

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how would find the length of the hypotheneus

candid cosmos
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7 square plus 1 square

modern sparrow
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almost

candid cosmos
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and then square root

modern sparrow
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yup

candid cosmos
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ohhhhh

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sooo

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square root of 50??

modern sparrow
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correct

candid cosmos
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WOOOHOOOOOO

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THANK YOUUU 🙏

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np

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x + 1/x = 4,

Find x.

What i did: -

x^2 + 1 = 4x

x^2 - 4x + 1 = 0

using the quadratic formula,

x = 2 +/- sqrt(3)

but it doesn't seem correct to me when i substitute the values

(sry if this was just a dumb question)

wintry vault
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is it (x+1)/x = 4

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or x + (1/x) = 4

livid hound
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,w x + 1/x when x= 2 + sqrt(3)

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wintry vault
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seems like you got the right answer

floral onyx
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smth wrong with my calculations when i subsititute the values to verify then.

wintry vault
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pretty sure

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yes

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yeah

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I dont follow how it got 45 and 65

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nevermind I was on radians mode.........

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How do I convert my answer to a square root

silver forge
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for the y coordinate

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so 3

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^^

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FYI, you can just simplify

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i think you can do the rest...

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I got it

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:)

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topaz osprey
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What's the deal with this one?

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topaz osprey
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I did tan-1 (5/1) which gave me 78.69

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I don't know what quadrant V is in tho

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since it's 0 degree at positive x-axis, 90 at positive y-axis, 180 at negative x-axis, and 270 at negative y-axis, you can instantly tell that theta_v should be less than 270 degree (if the question wants it anti-clockwise from positive x-axis)

topaz osprey
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Quad 2?

modern sparrow
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quad 3

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quad 1 is top right

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then go anti clockwise

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topaz osprey
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I thought it was b/a

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It's still not right

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I figured it out

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I had to round my answer

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It was B/A

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this avaiable?

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how do i solve (x+2a/a+4a/x-2a)* ax-3a^2/x^3

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😔

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I am not sure what the expression is supposed to look like, could you add some more brackets to denominators and numerators?

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warm crystal
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i dont get it

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Simplify $\frac{x + 2a}{a} + \frac{4a}{x - 2a}$ by getting these fractions to the same denominator.

warm crystal
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how do i get them to the same denominator

sand cradle
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Then both will have the denominator (x-2a)a

warm crystal
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but theres no multiply ?

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oh now i get it

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can i still see this even if it closes?

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yeah

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k good

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thanks bro

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crimson sedge
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I know

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lol

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that's why i told him to cross multiply

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then multiply by the second part of the q

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Yoo how do i do this

frigid sinew
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Idk how to explain to you without straight up giving the answer

lean ledge
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Bro

frigid sinew
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Can you somehow take the x away from 3

lean ledge
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Divide by 3?

frigid sinew
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Or you can divide by x

lean ledge
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Ye

frigid sinew
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And you divide x^2 by x

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You obtain x(x-3)

lean ledge
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But then whats the answer then

frigid sinew
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Well

lean ledge
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It says x is one of two answers

frigid sinew
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What do you think

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=0

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What should X be

lean ledge
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-3 or +3?

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Im dumb

frigid sinew
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Why -3

lean ledge
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Bc its x-3??

frigid sinew
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-3 - -3 is 0?

lean ledge
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Uhh

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Hol up

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3-3=0

frigid sinew
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Yeah so only +3

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Right?

lean ledge
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So theres only one answer?

frigid sinew
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No

frigid sinew
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What else could x be

lean ledge
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Ummm

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Idk 😭

frigid sinew
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0 my dude

lean ledge
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Let me put that in

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Damn

frigid sinew
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??

lean ledge
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Its rigjt

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Ur smart

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Its on a website

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Oh ty

frigid sinew
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0 times anything

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Is 0

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Just fyi

lean ledge
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0 times 3

frigid sinew
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0

lean ledge
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I thought its subtracyion

frigid sinew
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x(x-3)

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It’s substraction and multiplication

lean ledge
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I dont get it

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Can u explain it more simpler

frigid sinew
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it’s x Times (x-3)

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So if x =0

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It’s 0 times (0-3)

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Therefore it’s 0

lean ledge
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Byt 0-3 = -3

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??

frigid sinew
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Yeah and times 0

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Try multiply -3 with 0

lean ledge
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Let me try and work it out myself. Tell me if its right, ok?

frigid sinew
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Alright

lean ledge
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Did i duck up?