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im not sure how to solve this
Does “factor theorem” ring a bell?
no
how can i find 2 values in one equation.
do i subtitude those roots and make them equal to 0?
I think you’re on to something
Basically yes that’s the factor theorem: (x-k) is a factor of a polynomial P(x) iff P(k)=0
i dont think i can use polynomial division in this case
just one tiny typo
where
Not sure why you have the extra x in the second equation
oh ok
But yes this is correct
so do i use simultaneous equatoin to solve p and q?
Ok I think you got it now
ok when i subtitude i got 4/3 as my q
Yep
thanks i got another question
(P-1)x^2 +4x + (p-5) >0
for this one
do i use discriminant to find the set of value in p?
b^2 - 4 a c
Yes
so what do i do after that
is the discriminant = 0?? or > 0?
how do i know which sign i use?
I’m assuming this needs to be true for all x, right?
yh
Then how many roots should the quadratic have?
Well you know you can only have a root if the quadratic is equal to 0
But the quadratic needs to be always greater than zero
why is it quadratic? isnt it the discriminant
if b^2 - 4ac > 0 -> 2 real roots
if lower -> no real roots
if same -> one real roots
We need to understand how our quadratic behaves before we make conclusions about the discriminant
oh how can i do that
Again, roots happen where the quadratic is equal to zero, right?
yh
but according to the problem, the quadratic must be strictly greater than zero
oh so theres no real root?
Yes
OHHHHHHHH
So the discriminant is in fact negative
i understand what u meant now
so discriminnat should be lower than 0
which means i can find set of value of p
Ye
did u get p<3?
Nope
If a is negative, this would open downward
So you need a to be positive
is that mean p > 3 + 2 root 2?
Yes
wait i dont understand
whats wrong with going downward
oh wait if its lower than 0, the graph will go below the 0
right?
Yes
therefore we just count the postive parts..
thanks for helping
u are very patient teacher 👍
No prob
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c=10
r=c/2
so summation will be using Σ(a,x) and for other functions like gamma etc, will be: X(v,e) so X is the function like gamma and v is the top of the function and e is the bottom of the function (note the equation at the top is still true)
c/r=x^c
x=x^c /2
v=c/e^x
vcr=(v+n)(c+n)(r+n)
vcr/θ=vcr^(Σ(vcr,0))
Σ(vcr,0)=k
Z=vcr^kn
Z_kn=Z/k^-2
Z_kn^2=Z*z
n=Σ(1,3)
z=n^1, so is z=2 or z≠2
help me solve this
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Hello
Can someone help me with this problem
can you sketch the graph of y = |x^2 - 2x| or y = x^2 - 2x?
Like this?
yes
now just imagine the line y = c (where c is some real constant)
it's just straight line parallel to x-axis
Okay
now try to specify the value of "c" such that it crosses your graph four times
Ohhh
I have to find the vertex
and reflect it
Which is going to be greater than 0 and less than 1
That makes sense
Thanks so much
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my friend gave me this problem... does there exist an uncountable set $W\subset \mathcal{P}(\bN)$ such that every set in $W$ is infinite and for all $A,B\in W$ with $A\neq B$, $A\cap B$ is finite? i say yes and i think i have a proof but it's nonconstructive and uses zorn's lemma. idk if it's possible but can anyone find an explicit example you can write down?
just make them all disjoint
layla
ok there that looks right
oof
well the first obvious idea is to use rationals instead of naturals
at least I have seen that before for similar problems
and then you do something like for each real x choosing all rationals that satisfy something nice
ah
choose a sequence that converges to x
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ohhh interesting
you of course cant really write down the sets either but you at least have an idea of whats going on
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stuck on part c of 265
$(\frac{y+3}{2})^{\frac{1}{3}}$
putridplanet
was the answer to b
You differentiate this expression with respect to y now.
So this would be a chain rule application here
$\frac{1}{3}(\frac{y+3}{2})^{\frac{-2}{3}}\cdot\frac{1}{2}\frac{dy}{dx}$
You're missing the inside derivative
?
Remember the chain rule multiplies everything by the derivative of the inside function
You're like off by a factor
putridplanet
You can just leave it as 1/2 here since you're considering y to be independent in this equation
So no dy/dx
$\frac{1}{6}(\frac{y+3}{2})^{\frac{-2}{3}}$
putridplanet
the answer saysjust 1/6
so plug in -1 for y
Yes
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not saying this is the most efficient way to do it, but is there any error with this?
error in first step already
you'd need to raise the whole initial argument to that power
wdym?
$$a\log(bc) = \log((bc)^a) \redneq \log(bc^a)$$
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ooopsss
I keep forgetting
5x is not a single term
even tho usually it is
but not for ln
you mean like this?
that would work
yuck lol
but then I could also make it into 2 ln's
like so
but what is the derivative of something raised to the power of a variable raised to another power?
chain rule for this? or something else
it's so much easier with something simple like d/dx( x^2 )using power rule
1 sec
you turned 5^x^3 into 5^x^2
its a 3, sorry too small
i noticed that too
i think my pen size is too thick
i will correct it to be more clear
then it's currently ok
typical scribblings at a university lecture ... 
i'm picking up bad habits from watching profs and their horrendous writing skills
a lot of chain rule will be needed, yes
OK
are you doing it this way for masochistic reasons?
so just curious, because this is not the best way to do it, I know lol
apparently yes
just to see how it could be done
this is the painless way to do it:
but no pain, no gain
d/dx[5^(x^3)]
where do I begin with this
e^(x^3ln5)
its not that bad, its the same way youd differentiate 5^x, express it as e^xln5
I'm trying to benchpress too much here, gotta build up
I'll just stick to product rule and play it safe for now
I don't see this at all tbh
maybe I should know this tho
even for MATH 205
$5^x=e^{xln5}$ then the derivative would be $ln(5)\cdot e^{xln5}=ln(5)\cdot 5^x$
AℤØ
this is just the same but the x has an exponent so the chain rule comes out differently
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you are one step away
multiply out the last thing
well one more
thats one minus too much for x
but the rest is correct
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Linear algebra question:
Why must the dimensions of the matrices match when adding or subtracting, but not when multiplying?
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because matrix addition/subtraction is done "elementwise" and matrix multiplication is not
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Hi, I was hoping someone could check my work for this.
So I want to prove $\vec{a}$ is an accumulation point of $S$ $\iff$ $\exists {\vec{x_k}}\subset S\setminus {\vec{a}}$ s.t $\vec{x_k}\to \vec{a}$
Austin
so first going in the (=>) direction
if a is an accumulation point of S then for all epsilon >0 there is a ball of radius epsilon around a such that that ball is a subset of S
then we can let epsilon=1
epsilon=1/2
and so on
epsilon=1/n
and continue infinitely
from each of these balls we can choose an element for our sequence xk, so we just pick a single thing from the ball that is not a itself
and since these are balls with positive radius, there is always something other than a in every ball
then the sequence xk we just constructed is in S and doesn't contain a
and xk -> a
so QED
?
okay and secondly going in the (<=) direction
if x_k of elements in S disjoint a converges to a, then for all epsilon > 0 there exists a natural number M s.t for all n>=M |xk-a|<epsilon additionally since no xk=a then 0<|xk-a|<epsilon so for all epsilon neighboorhoods of a then we have these xk in S with infinitely many more terms n>=M left in the sequence contained inside this neighboorhood.
so QED again
?
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so first going in the (=>) direction
if a is an accumulation point of S then for all epsilon >0 there is a ball of radius epsilon around a such that that ball is a subset of S
then we can let epsilon=1
epsilon=1/2
and so on
epsilon=1/n
and continue infinitely
from each of these balls we can choose an element for our sequence xk, so we just pick a single thing from the ball that is not a itself
and since these are balls with positive radius, there is always something other than a in every ball
then the sequence xk we just constructed is in S and doesn't contain a
and xk -> a
so QED
?
okay and secondly going in the (<=) direction
Austin — Today at 6:02 PM
if x_k of elements in S disjoint a converges to a, then for all epsilon > 0 there exists a natural number M s.t for all n>=M |xk-a|<epsilon additionally since no xk=a then 0<|xk-a|<epsilon so for all epsilon neighboorhoods of a then we have these xk in S with infinitely many more terms n>=M left in the sequence contained inside this neighboorhood.
so QED again
?
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Seems all good to me 
hey chartbit!
thanks
it seemed pretty solid to me too but sometimes I miss things (a lot of times)
It can happen, but today you’re all good
you have the idea for it 
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send ur work
you wrote your intervals incorrectly
I'm new to this server and I need help with my home work
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Welcome to the server though
You found the right answers.
However,
you wrote the interval incorrectly
this is correct
but you just need to simplfy fractions
and thats ur anwer
you literally had the first anser
idk why u added the infinitys
this doesnt even make sense, no offense
^
None taken
it is just -4/3 to 1/3
yes
not -4/3 to infinity
and -infinity to 1/3
that is literally just excluding the answer you want
Interesting
what you wrote down, those intervals, is every real number except for your answer
ye lol
So no U
you said this as ur asnwer
if this said greater than, then u would be almost corect
still said the wrong thing, but it would be closer.
it would be -infinity, -4/3 U 1/3, infinty
but in this case because it says less than its just -4/3, 1/3
I think I get it now, since they're not going separate directions X is within the parameters of each and not to infinity
That's where I was confused because if they go opposite directions, than it becomes two separated intervals
Right?
ye
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please help with how to find a
Well ur given the equation
ye
is that possible, isn't t the time?
t = time
T is a function of the time, representing temperature of the bread in degrees celsius
so yes, set t = 0
and T(t) = 205
and solve for a
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are units of derivative just (units of independent variable)/(units of dependent variable)
I don't think so
for example if we take the derivative of velocity then our units will be something like m/s^2 but if we take derivative of position our units will be just m/s
so it seems it depends on the units of what you are differentaiting
unless I am misinterpreting your question
ye cuz for position the independent variable is m and dependent is s so its just m/s
Wouldnt s be the independent variable
youll pick up a 1/m where x is the variable youre differentiating with respect to, yea
so like $\qty[ \dv{y}{t} ] = \frac{\qty[y]}{T}$
jan Niku
and $\qty[ \dv{y}{x} ] = \frac{\qty[y]}{L}$
jan Niku
and $\qty[ \dv[2]{y}{t} ] = \frac{\qty[y]}{T^2}$
jan Niku
uhh what
i meant the other way around
i meant (dependent variable)/(independent variable) sorry
say that y(t) is a position function
ye
then if you differentiate with respect to t, you pick up a 1/time
ye
ye so meters * 1/time
yup
so its true?
i dont think what you originally said is the same as what im saying
but if what youre saying is what im saying then yes
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i dont even know how to appraoch this
whats a formula that relates cos(x) and sin(x)
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am i right?
what if the d/dx is actually d/dsin
what would we get as an result?
what is d/dsin f(x)
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x(x-1)(x+1) on both sides i did
@tropic oxide
an cancelled out bs i left with 1/6 vs 1/8
x(x-1)(x+1) this on both side
x(x-1)(x+1) this was on the both sides on numerator when i factorised the given term
then all 3 cancel out no?
both sides OF WHAT?
it sounds like you completely ignored the fact that they weren't just talking about these fractions but about the REMAINDER of a DIVISION!
no then remainder i get is 1 both side
you are still treating this as some kind of equation...
assuming a equal sign beteen A AND B
no the equal sign is not rigid it can be greater or less after solving
i do not know how to explain to you how wrong this is
(x^3 - x)/6 ?? (x^3 - x)/8? something like this
idk but some books advise to assume like this
again
you're not looking at these fractions
they meant to talk about the REMAINDER of the DIVISION of x^3 - x by 6 and by 8
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but wont 1 be remainder it its 1/6
so both are equal this way
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can you tell your approach
i'd notice the following:
x^3 - x = (x-1) * x * (x+1)
this is a product of 3 consecutive integers, therefore exactly one of them will be a multiple of 3.
and also, since x is odd, x-1 and x+1 will both be even, hence divisible by 2.
therefore the product is divisible by both 3 and 2, and so is divisible by 6 and the remainder mod 6 is zero.
on the other hand, out of x-1 and x+1, two consecutive even numbers, exactly one will be a multiple of 4.
and a multiple of 4 times a multiple of 2 makes a multiple of 8.
so x^3 - x is actually also divisible by 8.
so that remainder is also 0.
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thankyou ann
great i understood it
just one thing so three consecutive number will always have mltiple of 2 and 3 right?
4 may or may not
i think x(x+1)(x-1) always divides by 6 because of it spanning 3 numbers
and then it also must divide by 8 because of 4 and 2
so both of them are 0
so both of them are same
qed
ya right
calm down
juggernaut
do you know modular arithmetic
nope
that’s fine
well
basically
x-1, x, x+1 mod 3 = {0, 1, 2}
and that mod 4 = {0, 1, 2} or {0, 2, 3}
how is it used here though
which is sufficient
mod 4 = 0 mean’s one number contributes 4, and the 2 means another number contributes the 2
and then the 1 and 3 is bad and poo poo we should kick them in the balls
and this means there’s a number mod 3 = 0
which means someone’s contributing a 3
infact the number is always divisble by 24, (except for small cases ofc)
i think for x=3 onwards it’s always divisble by 24
i dont understand this lol
no matter what number you pick
you end up with something that’s remainder 0 when divisible by 3
something of that but 1
and something but that but 2
WAIT
I COLOURED IT WRONG
OOPS
but the idea is there
now the question says x is odd
so x must be a black number
wait
here
notice how every black number is neighboured by a red and green number
yes
i understood
thanks for such a through explaination'
np
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I have a initial sum of money that has a monthly interest rate. I also make monthly contributions to the account. How do I represent this as a function?
I know that if it only where contributions it would be a:
$$ \Sigma $$
and if it were only a interest rate:
$$ money \cdot interestRate^x $$
N1x1T4
So by figuring out what annuity is I can answer my question?
I mean
you didn't really give any specifics but
that formula describes the situation you mentioned^
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how do you even start? idk what do do with the area of the triangle BDF
theres a very big brain way of doing it but i am not sure i should divulge it here
ABD is half, DFC is eigth, BFC is quarter, so DFC should be around an eigth, ABCD is 7.5*8=60
just approximate it
7.5 looks kinda like 60
so its D
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ok but yeah if you try to look at areas of triangles as fractions of the rectangle
talk about mathematical literature
you can actually get the problem done quite nicely
DF and CE is perpendicular right
doesnt matter
candies are you chinese
same base, same height --> same area
yes
ok
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try factoring then squeeze theorem
how to factor?
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Can't factor completely but u can factor the x terms
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i dont understand how to set the limits for the double integration
well
from my understanding the double itnergation limits are the regions
your thing is bounded by the circles r=1 and r=2
so 0 => 9pi/16 and 1 => 2?
oh what
i see
so given 0 => 2pi/3 and 1 => 2
and dA is equal to r dr dtheta
Is this right?
wait no i need to do something using the 2 curve equations right?
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m = a cos(θ) + b sin(θ)
n = a sin(θ) - b cos(θ)
yes, square both of these and add them together, and then simplify.
no
So I was wrong?
given that $m = a\cos \theta + b\sin \theta$ , find $m^2$
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$(\alpha + \beta )^2 = \alpha ^2 + \beta ^2 + 2\alpha \beta$
nalin
Oh
when you do $m^2$, the LHS is $(a\cos\theta + b\sin\theta)^2$
nalin
Oh so no squaring individually
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Okok
try now
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Check the series (2)^2n*3^1-n for convergence
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i was thinking about the sequence 1/(k^(1/k)), but i dont know if the ^1/p outside of the sum will cause any problems
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Is this correct?
The slope/gradient of line B is not correct, second point of line B is at (4, 0), not (0,4)
Or is it this way but change 4.0 to 0.4
yes
Okay thanks
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so for T2
the matrix is symmetric right
which means that when we diagonalize it we get D = S^-1 A S
and the matrix S is formed by the eigen vectors found from matrix A
also since matrix A is symmetric , matrix S must also be orthogonal
but for some reason the matrix i found isn't orthogonal
i found
-2 -1 1
1 0 2
0 1 1
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@plain badge does it matter that theres a repeated eigenvalue?
i mean these are the two vectors that arent orthogonal
nope im dumb
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HI
to determine if it is odd or even
you have to let f(x) = f(-x)
and simplify it from there
bro stop asking for answers it's the third time
THIRD TIME?!?
we'll lead you step by step
use the hint that you're given and work on it
i have 8 Q like that just show me the one others i will do formyself
So, is that the exact wording of the question? Is there any other description?
What I need to do here i dont get
- if f(-x) = f(x), it's even
- if f(-x) = -f(x), it's odd
- if f(-x) is neither of those things, it's neither
plug in -x for x in your function and simplify
ok tell me what to do
first i need simplify ?
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I need help with question b). This question is asking to find the next two iterations using the Bisecton method. The answer I found was [-1.5,-1.25] however solutions say otherwise and I am a bit confused on how to do it.
show your work please
okay thanks
solutions are saying this
theres an error when calculating f(a2) and f(b2)
just needed some reassurance if i got the question right or not
yeah
but the end result is correct though probably a typo
does it matter which number comes first in the square brackets
i thought the number that would be more negative would be on the left
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hi
Please can someone go through this with me
So I think that 3 ordinates means 2 strips so I split from 0 to 1 into 2 strips that makes y(0.25) and y(0.75) I think.
So I evaluated sqrt(sin(0.25)) and sqrt(sin(0.75)) and and I did 0.5 ( The sum of those 2) and got 0.0902 which doesn't seem right
For Simpsons rule I'm getting the complete wrong answer, I split it up into 2 again, I did 0.5/3 ( sqrt(sin(0)) + [4 × (sqrt(sin(0.5))] + [2( sqrt(sin(1)) ] + sqrt (sin 1) = 0.12833
Which is even worse off approximation, what am I doing wrong, can someone help me 🙏
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its my first time in discord
No problem
what do you want
it is calculus ?
It's further maths a level
bro why ping me
Because you may be able to help me
I don't have 8 hands ahhhhhhh
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What would be a way to go about this?
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how would i even solve this 😭 i tried using hte power rule and using the instantenous rate of change formula but im stumped 😭
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if you're asking about a) it should be right
its wrong 😭 ive also tried 2/3x^(1/3)
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Hello I appear to be stuck in my calculations as I know that the answer is 14 over 3 but in my calculations I have calculated that the answer is 8 over 3 and therefore I've made a miscalculation and I'm wondering where I've went wrong?
Did you make a typo with 14 instead of 16
Yes probably, but my answer appears to be off by 8/3 so either way my answer is incorrect.
Triple checked what I put in the calculator it is for sure this exactly as written:
You split the integral incorrectly
I'm rusty af in calculus (or applied calculus) but shouldn't it be 0 to 1
and 1 to 3
for the limits
$v(t)<0$ for $t \in (0,1) \cup (1,3)$ and $v(t)>0$ for $t \in (1,2)$
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This comes from the fact that $$|x|=\begin{cases} x, x \geq 0 \ -x, x<0 \end{cases}$$
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Btw, as a minor point, be careful with your variables - you're integrating with respect to t, not x
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Yeah, but in the future, try not to jump in when someone else is helping - it's interrupting and makes the situation more complicated if two people are saying the same thing at once
Particularly for the original helper since they're (usually) continuously cut off
I legit didn't see you there lol
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I'm not to familiar with Discrete Mathematics. I thought it split there because graph appears to reflect at the point 2 as the derivative flips values there. But it is a piecewise function?
Where did you get it's discrete from?
It's just observing the graph: v is positive when the graph lies above the axis and v is negative when the graph is below the axis
So you just need to split the integral when it's under and above the graph. The point at which that happens is where it needs to be split?
Yes, so you can rewrite without the absolute value using this
Yes I remember that you need to split an absolute value into two separate functions.
Remove the absolute values here? Or do I have to solve for multiple integrals?
should be from 0 to 1, 1 to 2, and 2 to 3
since the function changes sign at 1 and 2
Does this indicate that a change of slope in the line will mean that a bound must exist there?
1 to 1, positive area, evaluate the integral there.
1 to 2 under the x axis...
I am confused as to why it is split at 2 in the integral.
1 to 3 could be evaluated as a single integral because that portion is all under the x-axis?
this isn't true, also it's the t-axis (since it's a function of t, not x)
1 to 1, positive area, evaluate the integral there.
If both bounds of an integral are the same, the integral is 0
so I'm not quite sure what you're trying to accomplish with this
The slope of the curve is always changing
why are you bring bounds into this
I intended to say 0 to 1, my mistake. I guess I'm confused because I'm not sure really what the criteria is for setting those bounds.
Ig from this, you can say that $$|v(t)|=\begin{cases} -2t^2+8t-6, v(t) \leq 0 \ 2t^2-8t+6, v(t)>0 \end{cases}$$
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does this clarify anything
Ig from this, you can say that $$|v(t)|=\begin{cases} -2t^2+8t-6, t \in [0,1] \cup [1,3] \ 2t^2-8t+6, t \in (1,2) \end{cases}$$
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The advance notation that you're using is something I'm not very familiar with so I'm a little bit confused but I'm trying to follow. I know for certain were talking about whether or not t is in the set of either set you specified. But how that relates to the bounds. I'm not sure. I do see one expressions has the signs switched. I assume that is because we are making it a positive area for elements in that set specifically. But this piecewise function only contains 2 functions so I guess I'm confused. You took v(t) and took it's absolute value which allowed it to become a piecewise function and then this allows you to split it into an integral. How does the third integral fit into this?
But this piecewise function only contains 2 functions so I guess I'm confused.
Would it help if I rewrote it like this
Ig from this, you can say that $$|v(t)|=\begin{cases} -2t^2+8t-6, t \in [0,1] \ 2t^2-8t+6, t \in (1,2) \ -2t^2+8t-6, t \in [1,3] \end{cases}$$
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Yup I'm starting to get this now. It makes sense, because the function dips below the t-axis for a certain amount of time we have to make a case in the piecewise function to account for this gap when we take the integral because we want it to be positive. We have to update the two other functions to account for that as well.
How exactly did we know that this was going to be a piecewise function? Was it just by taking a look at the graph? We'd have to assume to get the integral's area we need a positive area no matter what, since we know what the graph looks like of the polynomial we can easily say that that the function in the integral itself must be |v(t)| because we want the total area for both areas under the t-axis and above the t-axis. Am I on the right track here?
How exactly did we know that this was going to be a piecewise function?
By definition, absolute value is a piecewise function.
so if you want to rewrite the function without explicitly using absolute value, you need to use the other representation, which is the piecewise representation
"We'd have to assume to get the integral's area we need a positive area no matter what" right?
Which is how we knew it was abs and then a piecewise function
Well distance is always non-negative, so we need to turn any negative signed error into positive area
which is why we use absolute value
and then this
Okay is it was purely because distance and this relationship isn't true? "We'd have to assume to get the integral's area we need a positive area no matter what"
The 3rd expression in the piecewise function appears to overlap the (1, 2) interval, does it matter if we switch it to (2, 3)?
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yep so good. Now you can use some properties of logarithms
namely $ln(e^a) = a$ and $ln(a^b) = bln(a)$
MellowDramaLlama
oh
so the first part = 2y
hmmm
and im assuming i use that second property on the second part
MellowDramaLlama
that should help with the 2nd part
ln(x)ln(sin)?
nice work! 🙂
MellowDramaLlama
now you'll have to use product rule and chain rule for one part
not quite. you don't have to do another ln
you can just take the derivativie now
$y' = \left(\frac{1}{2}\right) [ (ln(x))'ln(sin(x)) + ln(x)(ln(sin(x))'(sin(x))' ]$
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yeah like I said don't take ln of both sides atfter this. You have y by itself and that was the goal
