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barren forum
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hmmm I must remind you linear independence is a property of a set๐Ÿ˜‚, though yes, that's a quick way to spot it

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say A = {(1,0), (0,1), (3,5)}, can you show me that A is not linearly independent? @errant wasp

errant wasp
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hmm

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it seems that hey are?

barren forum
errant wasp
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If the only solution is x = 0

barren forum
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were you thinking "when no vector is a multiple of another"? That's not the definition ๐Ÿ˜

errant wasp
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yeah unfortunately

barren forum
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you must have it in your notes?

errant wasp
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If the only solution is x = 0 is linearly dependent

barren forum
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taken out of context that's a bit confusing, but it's saying this:
let W = {v1, v2, v3, v4...} be a set of vectors, x1, x2, ... be numbers, W is linearly independent when x1 v1 + x2 v2 + x3 v3 = 0 has only the solution x1 = x2 = x3 = ... = 0

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then we can for sure abbreviate (x1, x2, ...) as just x, (0,0,0,0...) as simply 0, and say that a set is linearly independent when it has only x = 0 as the solution

barren forum
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Now can you tell me when is a set not linear independent?

errant wasp
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at least one vector in the set can be represented as a linear combination of the other vectors in the set

barren forum
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hmmm that's indeed an equivalent defintion...not the one I'm asking though

barren forum
errant wasp
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ax + by where a, b are scalars

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and the solution is in the field

barren forum
barren forum
errant wasp
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(3,5)=3(1,0)+5(0,1)

barren forum
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that's great, and thus you have shown A is not linearly independent.

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It's really just by constructing linear combinations.

barren forum
# errant wasp (3,5)=3(1,0)+5(0,1)

It's especially easy in the cases when some are multiples of others, say {(3,4), (6,8)}. This set is not linearly independent just because (6,8) = 2 (3,4), the latter being a simple linear combination of one vector

errant wasp
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its easier for me to see those examples tbh

barren forum
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sure, here is another one

barren forum
errant wasp
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oh tats interesting

barren forum
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You can see how the two definitons are equivalent, we just need to move a term and divide both sides by a coefficient to represent a vector by the other vectors.

-3 (1,0) + -5 (0,1) + 1 (3,5) = 0
can become
-5 (0,1) + 1 (3,5) = 3 (1,0)
and it becomes
-5/3 (0,1) + 1/3 (3,5) = (1,0)

and hence we represented (1,0) using a linear combination of the other two vectors

errant wasp
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thank you this was really helpful

barren forum
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no worries, linear algebra is fun ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

errant wasp
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can i ask another question?

barren forum
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sure thing

errant wasp
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can i show you what i did for a, and then ask about b

barren forum
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I see no problem in a)

errant wasp
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okay i dont think i fully understand b

barren forum
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in b), you should understand what a projection is. The projection of a vector v, onto a space W, is roughly speaking, the part of v that's in W.

If v is already in W, then the projection is just v itself.

An example on a plane will be much helpful.

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here, the green line is a subspace, say spanned by {(1,1)}

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we have some purple vector

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and the orange vector is the exactly the projection of the purple vector on to the green space. geometrically, it's obtained by drawing a perpendicular line to the green line starting from the arrow to the green line.

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if a vector is already in the green subspace, projection onto the space just gives itself back.

errant wasp
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because its already in itself?

barren forum
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don't mind the labels, I meant to show u but didn't

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the orange vector u1 is the projection of u onto the green subspace

errant wasp
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The idea is like you are already asking for something to be in something when it is already the something thus it is returned

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thank you for that visual

barren forum
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no worries, in general though, the subspace can be arbitrary, it can be a plane in R^3 for example, the same concept applies

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take a random vector, shine a parallel light from afar perpendicular to that plane. The shadow on the plane is the projection of thatvector

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if the vector is already on the plane, then the projection is itself

errant wasp
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thank you so much

barren forum
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no worries

errant wasp
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whats an orthonomal basis

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im sorta confused about that too

barren forum
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it's a special basis sastifying the orthonomal condition.
Recall a basis is

  1. linear independent
  2. spanning
    but an orthonormal one has to be also
  3. orthogonal
    and 4. normal
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3 means, every pair of vectors in that basis is orthogonal to each other (their dot product is zero, or geometrically, they are perpendicular)

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4 means, each vector in that basis has to be "normal", meaning the length of every vector has to be 1

errant wasp
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this is so much to remeber

barren forum
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the standard basis of R^2 {(1,0), (0,1)} for example ๐Ÿ˜‰

errant wasp
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P=A(A^T A) โˆ’1 A^T what if A is an orthonomal basis

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then is it like euqal to its identity

barren forum
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yeah the P = I actually. You have the trust the question that P is indeed a projection onto the column space of A. (This means for any vector v, P v is the resulting projection onto the space)

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Since A is a basis now, the column space is just the whole space.

errant wasp
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my notes say p = i is generall false tho

barren forum
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probably only works for orthonormal ones?

errant wasp
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okay so you cant like assume p = i unless its orthonormal basically

barren forum
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oh wait

barren forum
errant wasp
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P projects any vector in the space to the column space of A i guess in what i sent?

barren forum
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I think as long as A is a basis of the whole space, then P = I. The spanning property of the basis is the same as saying that the columb space of the basis is the whole space

errant wasp
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thank you so much for answering my questions i really appreciate it

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Hello i need help with the question F

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Hi I tried my best to try achieve the answer although I donโ€™t know how and would appreciate some help

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I got
x_2 =2.84
x_3=2.52
x_4=2.42

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Please help me with MATLAB code!!

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orchid goblet
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I need to print out the iterates and the function values f(x_k) for secant method on the function f(x) = cosh(x/4)-x over the interval [-15,15] with the initial guesses x_0 = 0.5 and x_1 = 2.0

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This is the code I have so far

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format long
f = @(x) cosh(x/4)-x;

x_old = 0.5;
x_curr = 2;
tol = 1e-10; %error tolerance
i = 0; %iteration
N = 100; %max iteration

f_old = f(x_old);

while i <= N
f_curr = f(x_curr);
x_new = x_curr - f_curr*(x_curr - x_old)/(f_curr - f_old);

if abs(x_curr - x_old) < tol
    fprintf('Solution is %f \n', double(x_curr))
    fprintf('Number of iteration is %d \n', i)
    return
end

i = i + 1;
x_old = x_curr;
f_old = f_curr;
x_curr = x_new;

end

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Can you help me display the iterates and the function values please?

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Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.

obsidian coral
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How did you get 1/2?

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Why a^4?

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Can you show full work?

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And the next step would be?

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You have two equations, with two unknowns, solve for them

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How did you solve for them

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When someone asks you to show your work, you should show all your work, from start to finish

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Then it's hard to help you without know what you did fully

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My question is how did you get a = 1/2

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You have two equations, how did you solve for a

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Yes

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This is the equation you should have gotten

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You got a^4 = 1/16 the first time

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$\frac{1}{2^3 \sqrt{2}}$?

wraith daggerBOT
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dldh06

obsidian coral
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Then no

obsidian coral
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So then what would a be?

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$\frac{1}{2 \sqrt[3]{2}}$?

wraith daggerBOT
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dldh06

obsidian coral
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You found a wrong

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That's what I'm trying to point out

obsidian coral
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Because this is the proper equation

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Yes

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Yeah sounds right, but since you have a and C just plug those back in and see if it passes through the given points

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boreal flame
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the equation is just z=0 right?

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thorn sluice
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hi

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thorn sluice
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can someone help with this

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im unsure on how to start

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vernal shell
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Well first you have to write each the line in vector form ๐Ÿค”

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In a horizontal line, y is constant, and x is variable. What vector would represent that line? ๐Ÿค”

vernal shell
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Wait that has 3 coordinates

thorn sluice
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so is it just <0, x>?

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native lion
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,w plot 8 + 6x -3x^2

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native lion
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is this horizontal at 1?

neat dune
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U can verify by finding the vertex

native lion
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isnt that infinity?

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like both -infinity

neat dune
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The vertex is the peak/bottom of the parabola basically

native lion
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yeah

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so infinity

neat dune
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here it'd be the peak

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If the parabola points downward the vertex is the peak, if it goes upwards it's the bottom

native lion
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ok?

neat dune
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do u know how to find a vertex

native lion
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yeh

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i just told you

neat dune
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no

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U got it wrong

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The highest point means the peak

native lion
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1,11

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thats the vertex

neat dune
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ok then yes it's horizontal at 1 catthumbsup

native lion
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only at 1?

neat dune
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yeah

native lion
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alright

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thanks

neat dune
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Mhm

native lion
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can you help with this?

neat dune
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This is for calculus right

native lion
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yeah

neat dune
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take derivative, that's ur line's slope

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Then u can use point-slope form for convenience

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To write the tangent line

native lion
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alright i cant do that, nevermind.

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for this would i just plug in 35?

neat dune
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No u gotta take the derivative also

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then plug 35 into that

native lion
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how do i take the derivative

neat dune
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Uhhh why do you have homework that's making you do this if you haven't gotten to it yet devastation just curious

native lion
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idk im just not good at math

neat dune
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this isn't about being good at math or not tho it's the barebones they teach u in Calc class

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Do u know power rule?

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like if u see $x^n$ alone

wraith daggerBOT
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992qqoloy

neat dune
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Have they gotten to how u derive that yet

native lion
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probs but i forgot

neat dune
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Well whenever u forget things u can always open ur textbook happy

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idk sorry if I'm being like this. I could just tell u the rule but this seems like a fundamental thing we can work on

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So I guess either open ur book or google power rule that's what I usually do :p

native lion
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so whats the derivative

neat dune
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I can't just tell u the derivative either solutions are against the rules devastation

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Helpers in this server r just supposed to guide

native lion
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is it -2x?

neat dune
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Close

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There's the 50x term also

native lion
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-2x+50

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?

neat dune
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Yup

native lion
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so do i plug 35 now?

neat dune
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Yup

native lion
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so -20?

neat dune
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Yeah

native lion
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is this -350?

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2nd requires derivative?

neat dune
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yeah 2nd requires derivative

native lion
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did i do the 1st one right?

neat dune
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no idk what u did wrong tho hmmCat

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U plugged in 250 for x into R(x) right

native lion
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yeah

neat dune
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Hmm even in the scenario where it would say 0.2 instead of 0.02 ur off by a 0

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I think u misread the 0.02 as a 0.2 no biggie

native lion
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oh wow

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7750

neat dune
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Yee

native lion
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for the 2nd one what do i do

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do i just find the derivative of the R(x)

neat dune
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p much the same as the first one

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Yeah

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I mean not the first part of this but the earlier problem using C(x)

native lion
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36-0.04x

neat dune
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Yup

native lion
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?

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and then i plug 250?

neat dune
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Mhm

native lion
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26

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awesome

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is this the same thing as the last question?

neat dune
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Yup

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Just dont plug in for t=1992

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Gotta read the problem to figure out what t is supposed to be

native lion
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25?

neat dune
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Yeah

native lion
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174.5

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and then for the 2nd one i have to find the derivative

neat dune
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Mhm

native lion
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1.4x-13

neat dune
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yup

native lion
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do i plug in 25

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so then its 22

neat dune
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Yup

native lion
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do i need to find the derivative?

neat dune
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yeah

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For this 1 u can either expand and then derive each term

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Or use product rule, but ull probably have to expand either way to put it in simplest terms

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So I think it'd be easier to just expand it first devastation

native lion
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oh ok

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that makes sense

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(12x^{8}-8x^{7}+10x^{5}-18x^{4}+12x^{3}-15x)

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is this correct when expanding?

neat dune
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Yeah

native lion
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ok

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its the last one

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96x^(7)-56x^(6)+50x^(4)-72x^(3)+36x^(2)-15

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this is what i got

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as the derivative

neat dune
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Oh

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If I'd known it was multiple choice like this I woulda said product rule :p

native lion
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oh lmao

neat dune
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Yeah last one

native lion
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quotient rule?

neat dune
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For this one there's the mnemonic "LowDeHigh minus HighDeLow over LowLow"

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So $\frac{f(x)g'(x) - f'(x)g(x)}{g(x)^2}$

wraith daggerBOT
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992qqoloy

native lion
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(x^(4)+6x^(2)-2x)/((x^(2)+2)^(2))

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so its either A or D

neat dune
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The one that has the minus

native lion
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ok

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plug in 40?

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and then derivative and plug in for 2nd?

neat dune
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Mhm

native lion
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4.984

neat dune
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how many more of these are left cus i gtg

native lion
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only a few more

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itll be done quick

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(-200(x^(2)-5))/((x^(2)+5)^(2))

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for the first question is it 4.984?

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or do i have to multiply it be a thousdands

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since it says the population p in thousands

neat dune
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Actually that's a really good question

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Problem doesn't say so I've no idea for sure

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but yeah maybe multiply by 1000

native lion
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ok

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my 2nd answer is a negative decimal
-0.124

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are we sure its 4984? or should we leave it as a decimal to three places
im gonna leave it as decimal i think

neat dune
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Aight

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Yeah leave as decimal

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Ic now that it says that at the bottom

native lion
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(-20(6x^(5)+2))/((x^(6)+2x)^(21))

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thats what i got

neat dune
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yeah

native lion
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im confused

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what do i do after i found the derivative

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since it isnt 1 of the answers but its close to all 4

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oh wait is it C?

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C includes all of it

neat dune
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Yeah

native lion
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i didnt get 1/4

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(x(2x^(2)-3))/(2(x^(4)-3x^(2))^((3)/(4)))

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thats what i got

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its A or D since 3/4 should be positive

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yeah im confused

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native lion
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can some1 help

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native lion
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in a rush

digital cliff
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v=ds/dt
a=dv/dt

native lion
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what

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whats ds

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and dt

digital cliff
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derivative of s with respect to t

native lion
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is it 14?

digital cliff
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that is s when t=2

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so no

native lion
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so then what is it

digital cliff
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do you know what a derivative is?

native lion
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yeah

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neither of them are 14?

digital cliff
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no

native lion
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alright

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alpine forge
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Iโ€™m not sure how to start

foggy sandal
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log(ab) = log a + log b

violet brook
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^

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so you can split it into log_4(4096) + log_4(x) = 64

alpine forge
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Uh

alpine forge
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I can show you a example similar to how my teacher did it?

violet brook
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sure

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yeah so what they did there

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was change it into exponential form

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yea

violet brook
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youd be saying

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4^64 = 4096x

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if you put 4^64 into your calculator

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it will not be nice

alpine forge
violet brook
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yes

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then you can solve for log_4(4096) using change of base

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do you know the change of base formula?

alpine forge
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log_c a / log_c b

violet brook
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uh

alpine forge
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Thatโ€™s the formula u mean right?

violet brook
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yes

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but notice

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the base is the denominator

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yes

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ok you edited it

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so

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use change of base to evaluate log_4(4096)

alpine forge
violet brook
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in log_4(4096)

violet brook
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what is your b and c

alpine forge
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4096 and x

violet brook
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no

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for log_4(4096)

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b is the base
c is the argument

violet brook
alpine forge
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isnโ€™t the base 4..? And the argument is 4096

violet brook
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yes

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okay

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now changing the base

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its better to change the base to either e or 10 calculators usually compute logs with those bases

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so putting it into the formula

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youll get

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oh wait sorry

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$\frac{\log_{10}(4096)}{\log_{10}(4)}$

wraith daggerBOT
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chef wang gang

violet brook
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now you can use a calculator to evaulate it for you

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(as like i said calculators usually compute logs with base 10 or base e which is the purpose of change of base)

alpine forge
violet brook
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mhm

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so you have

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6 + log_4(x) = 64

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so what do you think is next

alpine forge
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isolate the x? Right using the exponential form

violet brook
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yep

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but in order to isolate the x you need to remove the 6 first

alpine forge
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-6 from both sides correct?

violet brook
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yep

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log_4(x) = 58

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now rewrite in exponential form

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so you can get the solution for x

alpine forge
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Ohhh so the answer is b

violet brook
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yep x = 4^58

alpine forge
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Thanks so much

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no worries

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Sorry if I took a while to understand ๐Ÿ˜…

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oh no no its perfectly fine

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hi,I'm having difficulty in this part, please help me.

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help

solid juniper
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chronic?

cerulean star
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pronic?

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๐ŸŒฟ

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# cerulean star post the original question.

original question in vietnamese:Cho x,y,z lร  cรกc sแป‘ thแปฑc khรดng รขm thแปa mรฃn x+y+z=6. Tรฌm giรก trแป‹ nhแป nhแบฅt vร  giรก trแป‹ lแป›n nhแบฅt cแปงa: P

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what section of your textbook are you on

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and what class is this for, Multivariable Calculus?

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(Calculus 3)

solid juniper
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competition math i would guess

onyx dove
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looks like plain inequalities man

patent pond
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cerulean star
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ok so I have an equation of the derivative

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let Z = 6 - X - Y

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then

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P = sqrt(X+Y) + sqrt(6-X) + sqrt(6-Y)

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differentiate:

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$\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{(6-X)^{-1/2}}{(X+Y)^{-1/2} (6 - Y)^{-1/2}}$

wraith daggerBOT
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Disorganized

cerulean star
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um...

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but we don't have Y only in terms of X

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so idunno

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else we could find the critical points

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(maybe)

patent pond
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What is dx,dy?

cerulean star
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but the minimum maximizing values I think are X=Y=Z = 2 (by inspection)

patent pond
cerulean star
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oh

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there's a few ways to do this with P(X,Y) = sqrt(X+Y) + sqrt(6-X) + sqrt(6-Y)

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practice exam

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why is this the case

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I undersatnd finding x if its minimal

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but not largst

vague rapids
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Product of LCM and HCF of two numbers is equal to their product

honest bobcat
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ye

silver parcel
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you want the largest x such that x =/= lcm(x, y)
but by definition, x divides lcm(x, y)
so x is the largest divisor of lcm(x, y) different from lcm(x, y)
since lcm(x, y) is divisible by 2, x is necessarily lcm(x, y)/2

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since you can't divide lcm(x, y) by less than 2 without x being equal to lcm

honest bobcat
silver parcel
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oh

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im a fuckiw

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t

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lmao

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read the question challenge

honest bobcat
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similar question

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but why is it 3^2 not 3?

silver parcel
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because 3 is not in the gcd, so it divides only x or y but not both

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so among x and y, one is divisible by 3ยฒ = 9

honest bobcat
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hm

silver parcel
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if x = lcm/3, y would divide 3, so be 1 or 3, but both are impossible

honest bobcat
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nah im fucking dumb

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okay

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nAH IOn get it

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would you be able to elaborate a bit more

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on maybe a general example too

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nw if not

silver parcel
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you want the largest x different from lcm(x, y)
but gcd(x, y) divides x and x divides lcm(x, y)
so can we choose x = lcm/2 ? no, because then 2ยฒ doesn't divide x, so gcd(x, y) wouldn't divide x
the gcd and lcm put constraints on our choices
could we take x = lcm/3 ?
no, because then 3 would divide x and y, but then it would divide gcd(x, y)

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but 3 doesn't divide gcd(x, y)

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you could say well then, I will take lcm/5, it's larger than lcm/9

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but it still doesn't work for the same reason

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5 can't divide both x and y

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since it doesn't divide gcd(x, y)

honest bobcat
silver parcel
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yes

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but because 3 doesn't appear in the gcd

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it's not possible either

honest bobcat
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thatโ€™s not possible

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and then 3^2 works cus

silver parcel
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because the whole 3 as a prime factor get put into the x

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so we don't have to make it appear in y

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nor in gcd(x, y)

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i see

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i will reread this until it fully settles thank you

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is this how we differentiate
im still not familiar with this notation

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Can you describe in words what you're trying to write? It's a bit confusing as written

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Im trying to derive the lagrangian density

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thats one term of the expression

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hi guys i want to get โ€œvโ€ from this equation, please help

tropic oxide
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$mg(h-h_0) = \frac12 m(v^2 - v_0^2)$

wraith daggerBOT
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naive vessel
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3

tropic oxide
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show work

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(though i fear i might have a hard time reading it with this heavy cursive you've got...)

naive vessel
tropic oxide
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what does this say

naive vessel
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its not important

tropic oxide
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anyway, line 3 seems to be wrong

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or like

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... even number of mistakes, i guess?

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you added v0^2 into the fraction in a bullshit manner, and then you cancelled out the m's in a bullshit manner.

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but you ended up with $2g(h - h_0) + v_0^2 = v^2$?

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tropic oxide
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which seems correct to me

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but then you square rooted both sides and

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somehow $\sqrt{2g(h-h_0) + v_0^2}$ became $\sqrt{2g + v_0^2 (h - h_0)}$?

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naive vessel
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Is this correct?

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I changed last 2lines

tropic oxide
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why did the $v_0^2$ get a 2 coefficient?

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naive vessel
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i dont know i thinks its correct that way

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thanks for helping btw

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give me a sec i try something

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This is my process๐Ÿ˜…

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math is hard

tropic oxide
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all of this has a lot of bullshit in it

naive vessel
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and how is it correct then? i am lost

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@tropic oxide can you please tell whats wrong?

tropic oxide
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the one i can see and point out immediately is that you rewrite a/b + c as (a+c)/b

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it is hard for me to point it all out since there is so much of it and it piles on top of each other

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hey

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worthy basalt
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f(x)=ax^3-8x^2+bx+6

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f(x) is divided by x+1

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there is no remainder

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f(x) is divided by x-2 the remainder is x-12

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what is the value of a and b???????

onyx dove
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do you know your remainder theorem

worthy basalt
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no

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what is that ?

onyx dove
worthy basalt
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so what do I do ?

dim tiger
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So first if x+1 divides f(x) then what can you say about -1 with respect to f(x)

worthy basalt
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idk

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but I think I don't really need to know this exercise

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but ty

dim tiger
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x+1 divides f(x) then f(-1)=??

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Do you know this ?

worthy basalt
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f(-1)=a(-1)^3-8(-1)^2+b(-1)+6

dim tiger
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Yea and this is =?

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I want you to give me a number

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Independent of a and b

worthy basalt
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-a+8-b+6

dim tiger
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do you know what is the meaning of root ?

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root of a function ?

worthy basalt
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yea

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root of a function are when f(x)=0

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find the roots

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the x intercepts

dim tiger
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ok nice

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now i am telling you that x+1 divides f(x)

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so f(x)=(x+1)(something)

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isnt this right

worthy basalt
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yes

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we need to find that something

dim tiger
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that something is also a polynomial

dim tiger
worthy basalt
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-a+8-b+6
?

dim tiger
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i asked from here

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not from the original expression of f(x)

worthy basalt
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f(-1)=(-1+1)(something

dim tiger
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which is

worthy basalt
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0

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no remainder

dim tiger
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ok nice

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so what can you say about -1

worthy basalt
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f(-1)=0

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cuz y=0

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it's a root

dim tiger
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now f(-1)=0

dim tiger
worthy basalt
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f(-1)=a(-1)^3-8(-1)^2+b(-1)+6

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nvm it's -8

dim tiger
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ok great

worthy basalt
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-a-8-b+6=0

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and we do another simultaneous equations ?

dim tiger
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so f(-1)=-a-8-b+6=0

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exactly

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now we use the other part of the given to get another equation in a and b

worthy basalt
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ahhh

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f(x)=(x-12)(?)

dim tiger
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we can translate second part of the equation to f(x)=(x-2)(some other thing)+x-12 so f(2)=??

dim tiger
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remainder of division of f by x-2 is x-12

worthy basalt
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f(2)=(2-2)(?)+x-12

dim tiger
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=??

worthy basalt
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0

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2-12

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-10

dim tiger
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ok you have 2 simultaneuous eqs now solve the system to find a and b

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ok ty

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np

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Wouldnt A1xA2 be {(0, 0๏ผ‰(0,1 }๏ผŸ

warm bone
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Wrong answers probably

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Would this be correct answer for part f?

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yes

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i need help for finding if something is a subspace of R^n or not

Anyone know a resource to help me learn this. im really stuck

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please use reply to notify me

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but thanks

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are you aware if this covers enough examples?

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AMAZING

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hello there Peter!

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your g(x) is just f(x-1), which is only shifting f(x) to the right side by 1

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My method would be first move to graph so that we can move x=1 to x=0, and do it like normal reflecting along x=0, and finally move it back

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christ you're good at dutch, peter

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How to write a closed formula for the following series

placid bluff
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it's an arithmetic series but with a geometric series in the common difference

livid hound
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,rotate

wraith daggerBOT
crimson sedge
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$2, 2+7(1), 2+7(2), 2+7(3), ...$

wraith daggerBOT
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deltaG

placid bluff
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but it's not that

crimson sedge
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wait nvm I'm stupid

placid bluff
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lmao no worries

onyx dove
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||2+7*2^(n-1)||

placid bluff
onyx dove
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common difference changing by factor of 2

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so use exponential base 2

placid bluff
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i should mention that the first item in the series is u_0

crimson delta
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the formula is close but not quite

placid bluff
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such that n = 0

onyx dove
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then of course it's different

placid bluff
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yeah sorry i forgot about that until now

crimson delta
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instead of trying it via the common difference, subtract 2 from the original sequence and divide by 7. then you'll obtain another sequence for which finding a closed form should be much easier

placid bluff
crimson delta
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(the numbers 2 and 7 being motivated from the common difference attempt, they arent completely out of nowhere)

placid bluff
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ok wait

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my problem got "reassigned"

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i have a very similar sequence

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and i've noticed soething else about this one

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and i can make the general sequence:

2 + n(11*3^(n-1))

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Can I get help solving these? Iโ€™m canโ€™t do the steps. The answer is 31,125

tardy citrus
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How do we combine fractions with two different denominators?

crimson sedge
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Make them the common one

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I think

tardy citrus
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Yep so whatโ€™s the lcd of 8 and 12

crimson sedge
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96

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Orrr idk

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WAIT

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if u divide

tardy citrus
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Ok so how do we change the fractions to have that denominator

crimson sedge
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The first multiplied by 12 and the second multiplied by 8?

tardy citrus
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Close but you have do 12/12 and 8/8

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So the top and bottom are both multiplied by 12 for the first fraction and the top and bottom of the second are multiplied by 8

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So do that work and lmk what you got

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Is that right

tardy citrus
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Yes okay now we can combine the like fractions

crimson sedge
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?

tardy citrus
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So it will just be one big fraction over 96

crimson sedge
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Ohhh ok Iโ€™ll do that rn

tardy citrus
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Since the denominators are the same you can add the numerators together

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Lmk what you get

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Omg thank you!!!!

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I got the answer

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Ty

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๐Ÿ‘

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how do i go about finding the range

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just where x is bigger than zero or what

feral coyote
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range of f = possible ys

long arrow
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notice that

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2|3-x| >= 0 for all real x

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in other words if it was f(x) = 2|3-x| its range would be [0, inf)

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since modulus is nonnegative

crimson sedge
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so i would say

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hmmm

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but how would you prove that

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with working

long arrow
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it comes directly from the definition

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of absolute value

crimson sedge
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and whats that

long arrow
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and hence |x| >= 0

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always

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it's a non - negativity property

crimson sedge
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so i would write ranges for f are x is bigger than or equal to 0

long arrow
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range is about values of the function, so it's about "y"

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not x

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I guess you don't understand what I'm trying to say

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look at this simple example

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let's say we want to state range of |x| + 1

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knowing that |x| >= 0 we can easily deduce that |x| + 1 >= 1

crimson sedge
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so then in this case of 2|3-x|+5 >= ?

long arrow
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yes same way to solve this one

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try it on your own

crimson sedge
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uhh i forgot how to do these

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6-2x+5>=0 would be the next step right?

long arrow
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ee not really

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you don't have to solve anything to get the range

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it isn't an inequality you're supposed to solve

crimson sedge
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so what do i do

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f(x) โˆˆ [0; +infinity)

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this?

cedar kilnBOT
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clever kite
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my mom wants to put wallpapers on the walls, we need 30 cubic meters, one wallpaper is 30x35cm how much do we need?

rustic siren
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how much cm^2 is a wallpaper?

rustic siren
clever kite
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yes

clever kite
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idk the square meter for that

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im sorry

rustic siren
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you have to change both in the same form, so we could see the ratio

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1 m^2 is how many cm^2?

clever kite
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idk ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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100

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ig

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30m2 is 3000cm2

rustic siren
clever kite
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i dont understand

rustic siren
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1m*1m

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is 1m^2

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so now change this to cm

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1m=100cm

cedar kilnBOT
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clever kite
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im dumb im sorry

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could you solve it for me and not ask questions?

rustic siren
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no.

clever kite
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why not tho

rustic siren
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we do not do that here

clever kite
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ok then help me solve it

rustic siren
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substitute in

clever kite
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ohhh

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3000x3500?

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is 6500cm2

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so i need 65m2?

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wait waht

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no again

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lemme thnik

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that was dumb as hell

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wait

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30x35 is 1050

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so one wallpaper is 1050cm2?

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doesnt look right tho

rustic siren
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it is

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one wallpaper is indeed this many cm^2

clever kite
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ok so thats 10.5m2

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the wall is 30m2

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divide?

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so i need 2.8 wallpapers?

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so i should buy 3?

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doesnt look right more

rustic siren
clever kite
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why not tho

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it isnt logical

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xd

rustic siren
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1m * 1m = 100cm * 100cm

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see?

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i asked you to do this before too

clever kite
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oh right

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+00

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100

rustic siren
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now you just have to put the 2 info together

clever kite
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im lost

rustic siren
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Its just algebra from this point

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Write an equation

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You know how much cm2 the 30 m2 is

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And what is the wallpapers area

clever kite
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3000x3000cm is 30m2?

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idk man

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im dumb

rustic siren
rustic siren
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if you do not see the solution from the start its not bad, you just need small steps towards the answer using what we know at that point (it doesnt hurt to make a list os these infos separately)

clever kite
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i have this noted

rustic siren
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how much is 3000*3000?

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and how many of the 1050 do you need to fill it?

clever kite
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9million

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so 9000000cm2 is 3000x3000

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9000000 divide by 1050?

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idk

clever kite
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@rustic siren help pls

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im confused

rustic siren
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find x

clever kite
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but whats the x

rustic siren
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unknown

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the number of wallpapers in this case

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you dont know how to solve equations?

clever kite
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no

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i said im stupid xd

rustic siren
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and i say ur not

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yes, 9000000/1050

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what grade are you in?

clever kite
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highschool

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3rd xd

rustic siren
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u should have met with equations then, no?

clever kite
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yes

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there is no way i need 8571 wallpapers

rustic siren
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oh, sry

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my mistake, i forgot the original Q

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so 30 m^2

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and we know 1 is 10000 cm^2

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so 30 is 300000 , the square is on the cm not the number

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see? thats why we need to always doublecheck : D

clever kite
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im still confused

rustic siren
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with what? please dont just say youre confused and leave it there like that

clever kite
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everything is confusing me

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i wish i could tell you with what

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but my only response is everything

rustic siren
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oh boy

clever kite
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yea

rustic siren
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im sorry then

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i cant help with everything

clever kite
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xd

rustic siren
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but if you line them up i can try to go through the math related ones

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anyway the answer is 30 * 10000 / 1050

clever kite
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still stuck with that the 1 wallpaper is 1050 square cm and the wall is 30 square metres

rustic siren
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30 mห‡2 is 300000 cm^2

clever kite
rustic siren
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how??

clever kite
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oh

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i calculated it wrong

rustic siren
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look at it, it should not be higher than 300

clever kite
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okay thank you sir

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appreciate it

rustic siren
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glad if i could help

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next time try to sit on it a bit, and come here with more specific questions, it should make thing faster/easier

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The height of the base of a regular triangular prism is 2โˆš3cm. Find the area of โ€‹โ€‹the lateral surface of this prism if the diagonal of the lateral face of the prism forms an angle of 30โ—ฆ with its lateral edge.โ€‹ need help with a solution

fresh hound
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hello

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that's easy

golden thicket
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How?

fresh hound
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alright i'll do it for you

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96^2 cm

golden thicket
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it can not be true

fresh hound
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easy peasy : )

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XD

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i am the best at maths

subtle yew
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Okay, man...

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Please actually try to help the dude if you know how

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Don't waste his time and disappoint him.

subtle yew
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Oh okay, I see it. The yellow was too light

golden thicket
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height of triangle

subtle yew
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Which one is the lateral surface of the prism?

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A1B1AB?

golden thicket
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yes

subtle yew
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Okay.... and that's the area we need to find, right?

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Gotcha...

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Do you know basic trigonometry?

golden thicket
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i think yes

subtle yew
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Okay, so if you look at the triangle that the 30 degree line forms...

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What would the adjacent and opposite lengths be? (Don't need an exact value, just give me the expression itself)

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like Length(A, B1) * sin (angle)

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Something like that

golden thicket
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sin(30)*ABB1?

subtle yew
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nope.

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Okay, so you claim to know basic trig, right?

golden thicket
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sin(30)/ABB1

golden thicket
subtle yew
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What's:
length(A, B)?
length(B, C)?
...in terms of length(A, C)

golden thicket
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or not? I don't quite understand your question

subtle yew
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Okay, I'm writing it in a way more complicated way.

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I'm asking:
What's length of AB?
What's length of BC?
Give me an equation for each of them, using length AC

golden thicket
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like this?

subtle yew
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firstly... what the frick is "tg"? ๐Ÿ’€

subtle yew
golden thicket
subtle yew
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Why would you call it that????

golden thicket
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instead of tan

subtle yew
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y'all are funny

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Anyway

subtle yew
golden thicket
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what do soh cah and toa mean???

subtle yew
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Sin(angle) = Opposite/Hypotenuse
Cos(angle) = Adjacent/Hypotenus
Tan(angle) = Opposite/Adjacent

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remember this: opposite means the angle doesn't touch the line. Adacent means the angle does touch the line

subtle yew
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Okay, wonderful.

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So sin(angle) = opposite/hypotenuse can be rearranged as:
hypotenus * sin(angle) = opposite
if you know how to do a bit of algebra.

subtle yew
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Similarly,
cos(angle) = adjacent/hypotenuse
so
hypotenus * cos(angle) = adjacent

subtle yew
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Understand?

golden thicket
subtle yew
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Okay, now apply this to your question.