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jolly remnant
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then you plug x and y in and get a map from t to a real number

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it should simplify down to something *t + something else where t_0 <= t<= t_1

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for any a,b,c with a<=b<=c and f linear then f(a)<=f(b)<=f(c)

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this is because if f is lienar it can be written mt+k

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a<=b<=c
ma<=mb<=mc or mc<=mb<=ma (depending on sign of m)
ma+k<=mb+k<=mc+k or mc+k<=mb+k<=ma+k

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but this is exactly what you want

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(replace the expression with f(a), f(b), f(c)

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modest nebula
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oh okay so f is either increasing or deacreasing, (say increasing), then f(t_0) <= f(t') <= f(t_1)

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however f(t_0) > 0, f(t_1) > 0, but f(t') = 0, contradiction

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slim zinc
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I HAVE A QUESTION

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slim zinc
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woops

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substituting this u value (8)

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i cant get to (9)

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i think i might be doing something wrong

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my next idea is to try and brute force it by using the product rule

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i will picture what i worked out in a moment

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the first one is what i worked out by substituting u

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feral coyote
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no one knows how to do this

torpid sable
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There seems to be some missing information

slim zinc
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and probably wont give anymore information than i gave

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cause thats all it mentions of it

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maybe ill take it to a pure physics discord and someone can make sense of it

torpid sable
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but like where did that other P looking character come from. Not the rho, but the other one

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Yeah, that might be your best bet

slim zinc
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i dont think its relevantr

torpid sable
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okay, that's what I was guessing, that it's just another function

slim zinc
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its the only equation in the entire paper i cant follow

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and it looks trivial

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ill ask a physics discord

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crimson meteor
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Is it possible to simplify this further??

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(x+y)^2 = x^2 + 2xy + y^2

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west island
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Hey I have trouble understanding the last two steps

west island
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I/2 is supposed to be I^2/2 right??

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Full problem + what I did

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crimson pike
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i proved that empty set is a subset of P(A) - P(B) already but im not sure how to continue

wet fossil
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hmm for (ii) notice that the empty set belongs to both P(A) and P(B) and P(A) - P(B) equals all the subsets of A which are not subsets of B

crimson pike
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yea so i got to the point where since empty set is in P(B) and empty set is in P(A) the difference would result in P(A) - P(B) not having the element empty set

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but from b)i) i proved that empty set is always a subset of P(A) - P(B)

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so i dont really get the distinction between empty set not being an element and it being a subset

wet fossil
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The empty set is a element of P(P(A) - P(B))?
P(A) - P(B) is a set so the empty set is a subset of it but it's not a element of P(A) - P(B)

crimson pike
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ohhh

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okay i get it now

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bruh its like i just got enlightened

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crimson sedge
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how do you prove that:

x(y) = z(y) + t

(if originally x = z + (t/y) * y)

tropic oxide
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this looks strange...

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can you show the original problem please

crimson sedge
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External angle = 180 - ((n-2)180)/n

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someone has already helped me solve this in a simple way that does involve that the rule I mentioned above but I am still curious

tropic oxide
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???

crimson sedge
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n = the side of a polygon

wanton grove
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how are these two related at all

crimson sedge
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first

wanton grove
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or something else

crimson sedge
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lemme first edit it bcz i typed something wrong

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now,
E = 180 -((n-2)180)/n
En = 180n - ((n-2(180)/n * n
En = 180n - (180n - 360)
En = 180n (-180n + 360)
En = 180n - 180n + 360
En = 360
N = 360/E

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I wanna now why En = 180n - ((n-2)180) instead of En = 180 - ((n-2)180)

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zinc mural
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$\frac{dM}{dt(n-aM)}=1$

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zinc mural
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where n and a are constants

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would you say this ode is seperable?

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like could you intergrate both sides to dt and say its a seperable equation

mental trail
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I mean technically you could integrate it in this form

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have you tried integrating and doing the change of variables u = 1/(n-aM)?

zinc mural
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I have intergrated it yeah

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i said it counts as a seperable equation but my friend says a constant doesnt count

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he says it needs to be a function

mental trail
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huh?

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a constant is a function

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f(t) = C if he likes functions so much

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$\int \frac{dM}{n-aM} = \int f(t)dt$ where $f(t) = 1$

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zinc mural
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hmm yeah

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Just learnt

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I can perform intergrating factor methon when its a constant co-efficient right?

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or am i not allowed and have to use method of undetermined co-efficients

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bleak juniper
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Can anyone help me with this??

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tropic oxide
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!status

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tropic oxide
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do you understand the notation, at least?

bleak juniper
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yep.

tropic oxide
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right

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so then $\sum_{d_i \leq 6} (6-d_i) \geq \sum_{i=1}^n (6 - d_i)$ should be obvious, no?

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bleak juniper
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yes this is clear

tropic oxide
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right

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so then the other half can be written as $6n - \sum_{i=1}^n d_i \overset?\geq 12$ can't it

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tropic oxide
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btw can you remind me what "order" means for a graph

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cause i forgor 💀

bleak juniper
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no of vertices

bleak juniper
tropic oxide
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right so at least 3 vertices

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oh, it matters that G is planar actually.

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theres a bound on the edge count of a planar graph that's linear in n, isnt there?

bleak juniper
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can you just tell me how to do it.
This is my assignment . I just want to be done with it

tropic oxide
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i remember that there was a theorem that went like "if G is a planar graph on n vertices and e edges then e ≤ (some linear function of n)"

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but i do not remember what that linear function was

sweet crest
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e=n(n-1)/2 if you pair all n

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how would I set this up as a system of linear equations when to find the distance from 2 points in 3D space is a non-linear process

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crimson sedge
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Having trouble on this problem

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crimson sedge
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So I think the answer to the first one is 1 right?

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But like

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There is an open circle there

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At -1 where I circled here

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I guess I just don't really understand how to do this problem

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stable oyster
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each of that is a question you have to do

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oh nvm i misread your message

stable oyster
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the function still approaches 1 as x -> -1 from both sides

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Sorry for the late response byw

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Btw

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?

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So I think it says x approaching 2 from the left side

stable oyster
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thats what the negative thing is yea

crimson sedge
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How would I do that

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Would it be 0?

stable oyster
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its what it sounds like

crimson sedge
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But like I'm confused since there's 2 graphs

stable oyster
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where?

crimson sedge
stable oyster
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just view it as one function with a bunch of disconnected parts

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yeah its a bitwise function so just google that to see roughly what it is

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bright karma
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do i replace f(a) with 1

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@spice kraken you needed

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use the formula below

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$f'(a)=\lim_{x\to a}\frac{f(a+h)-f(a)}{h}$

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WhereWolf(ping if needed)

spice kraken
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wait what

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should be $h\to 0$

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WhereWolf(ping if needed)

bright karma
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huh

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i cant change what they give me

spice kraken
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bruh there are no x in the limit

bright karma
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wat

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oh

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um

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@spice kraken did i make a mistake

spice kraken
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bruh what are you doing

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first

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change the limit

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second you plugged in all the wrong values

bright karma
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WHAT

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spice kraken
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h=x-a

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what does h approach when x approach a

bright karma
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what

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huh

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approach approach?

spice kraken
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.

bright karma
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im so confused

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what did i do wrong

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wher did u go 😭

spice kraken
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h=x-a

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and x -> a

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then h ->?

bright karma
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x?

spice kraken
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no

bright karma
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idk what type of logic puzzle is this

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a?

spice kraken
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no

bright karma
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bothh???

spice kraken
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.

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.

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h=a-a

bright karma
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how am i supposed to know

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h = 0?

spice kraken
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yes

bright karma
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so h -> 0?

spice kraken
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calculate $\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(a+h)-f(a)}{h}$

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WhereWolf(ping if needed)

spice kraken
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change the limit from $\lim_{x\to a} \text{to} \lim_{h\to 0}$ because we changed variables

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WhereWolf(ping if needed)

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spice kraken
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yep

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what is f(a+h)

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tip: it equals f(1+h)

bright karma
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f(1)

spice kraken
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no

bright karma
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but h approaches 0

spice kraken
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f(1+h) approaches f(1)

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doesn't equal

bright karma
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then how do i find h

spice kraken
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???

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you don't find h

bright karma
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x;yuol9867545364tgh

spice kraken
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plug in 1+h for 5x^2-3x+1

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5(1+h)^2-3(1+h)+1

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5+5h^2-3-3h+1

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5h^2-3h+3

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factor now?

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oh

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we have $\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(1+h)-f(1)}{h}=\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{(5h^2-3h+3)-3}{h}$

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WhereWolf(ping if needed)

bright karma
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5h^2-3h/h

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5h-3

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so -3?

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bcuz h approaches 0

spice kraken
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good

bright karma
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wait

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how do we know f(a) = 3

bright karma
spice kraken
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??

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a is 1

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f(1) is 3

bright karma
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howd -f(1) turn into -3

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um

spice kraken
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..

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f(1) =3

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-f(1) = -3

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3

bright karma
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how do we know that

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OH

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bcuz we plug in 1 into the equation

spice kraken
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yes

bright karma
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which gives 3

bright karma
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alr tyyyy

spice kraken
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you forgot to write f'(1)

bright karma
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where

spice kraken
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line 6

bright karma
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where in line 6

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if i need to write it in line 6 i need to write it in every line after?

spice kraken
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left most

bright karma
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f'(1) = [(5....

spice kraken
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yep

bright karma
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does that look better

spice kraken
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look good

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oke ty.

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help

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Got wrong answer

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Not sure where I messed up

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what's the correct answer?

worldly bluff
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x=ab/(a-b-c)

thorn hollow
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I think your answer will reduce to that if you factor

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Maybe not -c hmm

worldly bluff
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this is my answer written more clearly

thorn hollow
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Oh you’ve got an overall negative yeah this works

worldly bluff
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isnt this all i can factor

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how does that help me?

thorn hollow
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You can factor the denominator by grouping

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c(a+b) + (b+a)(b-a)

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To (a+b)(c+b-a)

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thorn hollow
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Difference of squares on the right

worldly bluff
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what is that

thorn hollow
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a^2-b^2=(a+b)(a-b)

worldly bluff
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And you can factor (a+b) out then cancel it

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that is insane wtf

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thanks

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I need help on solving this equation csc^6 10º - cot^6 10º - 3csc^2 10º x cot^2 10º

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how do i use the bot thingy

carmine whale
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U mean calculator ?

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If u r talking about Wolfram alpha

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,w csc^6 10º - cot^6 10º - 3csc^2 10º × cot^2 10º

small igloo
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the bot that uploads the equation as a png

carmine whale
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Oh

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$\csc^6 10º - \cot^6 10º - 3 \csc^2 10º \cdot \cot^2 10º$

small igloo
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yeah that

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•Iᴛᴀᴅᴏʀɪ•

thorn hollow
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$\csc^6 10^\circ - \cot^6 10 ^\circ - 3 \csc^2 10 ^\circ \cdot \cot^2 10 ^\circ$

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small igloo
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that's better

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I know to solve this equation I need to use the Pytaghorean identities

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I believe I should be dividing the equation by sin^2 first

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actually hm

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How exactly would I go about this problem? I imagine I would integrate from 0 to 6, but other than that I'm very confused on what f(x) would be here.

muted bear
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What is the function for a circle (or really a semicircle)

ornate crescent
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pi(r^2)?

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why a semi-circle?

muted bear
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The function, not the fprmula for area

ornate crescent
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I'm unsure.

muted bear
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does $\sqrt{x^2-r^2}$ look familiar

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GarlicB

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It does not.

muted bear
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I forgot the y=

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ok how about $x^2+y^2=r^2$

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GarlicB

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That does look more familiar, yes.

muted bear
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try to isolate y

ornate crescent
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I'm not sure this is something I would say I've worked with before though.

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I see how that would become the function you created earlier.

muted bear
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What is r in this problem?

ornate crescent
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is this the function for a circle?

muted bear
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Function for a semicircle

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Because of the squareroot, we have to choose one of either positive or negatibe

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In this case, i chose positive

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So we can cheat by multiplying by 2

ornate crescent
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Ah that makes sense.

muted bear
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So then do you know how to use the cross section formula in tjis case?

ornate crescent
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I'm a bit confused about that as it says the slices are squares.

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Or rather, unsure how to incorporate this information with the rest of the problem.

muted bear
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ok lets look at one slice at say x=1

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Im not gonna simplify anything

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we have the length of the line segment with endpoints on the circle is $2\sqrt{9-1}$

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GarlicB

muted bear
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The r and x should be switched for the semicircle

ornate crescent
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so r^2-x^2 under the root?

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GarlicB

muted bear
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the area of said square is 4(9-1)

ornate crescent
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Wait how do I know that that is the side length of the square?

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That was using the formula of the circle right?

muted bear
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Yes

ornate crescent
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Which is how we obtained this equation initially.

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So, by squaring that, that just gives us a square?

muted bear
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Yes

ornate crescent
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This sound ridiculous to type out but

muted bear
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Its good to type it out

ornate crescent
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Interesting. Okay.

muted bear
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Help it make sense

ornate crescent
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Yeah.

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I mean "so by making it a square makes it a square" feels very silly to ask. lol.

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But, okay cool. that is a good information to have.

muted bear
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So in general, to find the volume when the cross section is squares is the formula (let me type out the tex)

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$\int_a^b(f(x))^2dx$

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GarlicB

muted bear
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So you know your bounds and the function then plug and chug

ornate crescent
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and f(x) here is the formula of a circle. which can be derived with y^2+x^2=r^2

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Correct?

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and 2*int from 0 to 3?

muted bear
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Yeah

ornate crescent
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all in all this is 2int 0 to 3 (2sqrt9-1)^2

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squared.

muted bear
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$2\int_0^3 (2\sqrt{9-x^2})^2dx$

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GarlicB

ornate crescent
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Okay so I'm a little confused on where to find x here.

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in the function of a circle, where would x come from?

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thinking of this on a 2d plane makes sense.

muted bear
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recall x^2+y^2=r^2

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y=sqrt(r^2-x^2)

ornate crescent
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but with the given information I'm not following.

muted bear
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y=f(x)

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f(x)=sqrt(r^2-x^2)

ornate crescent
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yeah that makes sense.

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I think I'm just unsure where I would find x with the information given.

muted bear
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What do you mean by find x?

ornate crescent
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Oh you know what.

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I'm smooth braining hard.

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lol

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nvm.

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This does make sense.

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Thank you so much! This actually fills in a lot of gaps I was having with some of the more recent material.

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Youre very welcome!

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hi, i just have a quick question about this problem:

i initally say that x is NOT in the set of anbnc (because it is in the complement)

after this, if i was to split anbnc into something like

x is not in the set of a, x is not in the set of b, x is not in the set of c

are they connected by ands? or by ors?

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i see that the formal definition of an intersection is A ∩ B = {x ∣ x ∈ A ∧ x ∈ B}.
but does this switch when x is NOT in the set?

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late wadi
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hmm

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so it's not in A, or it's not in B, or it's not in C

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OHHH

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sure

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Not sure if this is a jump discontinuity or a infinite discontinuity.

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infinite discontinuities only require one side of the limit to approach infinity

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jump discontinuities require both sides to approach finite values, yet that these finite values are not equal to eachother

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So it would be a non removable infinite discontinuity?

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if the limits on each side are different, it's not a removable discontinuity

flint whale
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Oh ok thanks

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So it would be the same for this as well then?

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idk what do u think

flint whale
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yes

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also

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would you consider a piecewise function

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discontinuous outside of its domain?

royal loom
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you would consider it undefined

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does it make sense to talk about continuity or discontinuity outside of the domain?

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the definition of continuity at a point requires the function to be defined at that point

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wat im doing wronog 😭

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are you converting the .83 into seconds?

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I guess

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That is what i am stuck

modern compass
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multiply .83 by 60 to get the number of seconds

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49.80?

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so if i put 50 maybe it work

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seems reasonable, yeah.

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Perfect it work

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,rccw

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  1. I get it that the answer is b
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But the mathematical proof is something like Vct= Vc-Vt

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Just wanna know why its minus here

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imagine you're on the train

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compared to a stationary observer, all speeds as observed by you are shifted by the same vector

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your own speed is v_t to the stationary observer (bc you're on the train), but 0 to you

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so that shift is -v_t

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wouldn't the answer be $5?

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the answer booklet says $6

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300cm of wire means 3m of wire

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$2 for every wire, means, $2 for 1 metre

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now we have 2m left

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another $2 spent

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1m left

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spent $4

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if i calculate the direction of a vector thats in quadrant 4 and it comes out as -16.11 can i write the direction as 343.89 degrees instead of -16.11 degrees ?

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how is this even logical?

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stray otter
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these 2 parts are the same thing isn't it?

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Well, yeah, kinda

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The line on the right is also the extra block peeping out

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1s

stray otter
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oh

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yeah that makes sense

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some cubes have all except one side transparent bleakkekw

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Hi, I am writing the proof of the triangle inequality but I am stuck on this part and not sure how to progress. I did the other two cases where a < 0, b <0 and a>=0,b>=0. Not sure how to finish this one.

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<@&286206848099549185>

sweet crest
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what's |a| when a<0?

green vapor
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-a

sweet crest
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so where is the problem?

green vapor
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I just dont know how to finish the proof

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I need to get it to |a+b| on the rhs

sweet crest
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so you need to prove b-a>=|a+b| a<0, b>=0?

green vapor
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i am trying to prove |a+b| <=|a|+|b|

sweet crest
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well, you already proved |a|+|b|=b-a a<0, b=>0

green vapor
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yea

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i dont know how to move forward to finish it

sweet crest
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look at cases |a|>b and |a|<=b

green vapor
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wouldnt i need to create subcases where a+b>=0, a+b<0

sweet crest
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that's identical

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cos a<0 => |a|=-a

green vapor
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yeah

sweet crest
green vapor
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ok

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honestly idk man

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i have been working since yesterday morning

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im running on 3 hours of sleep

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and this assignment is due in 2 hours

sweet crest
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time scheduling problem

green vapor
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i forgot this assignment existed until 2 days ago

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so it was unfortunate

green vapor
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do i create those subcases?

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and even if i do how would i write that

sweet crest
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suppose a+b<0 then solve

green vapor
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ok

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ill do both and ill ask for confirmation

sweet crest
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*prove that it holds

green vapor
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gotcha

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@sweet crest

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Is this good?

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changed it a bit

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but i think thats all?

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@sweet crest do you think this is good?

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if so i think im done

sweet crest
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yeh, looks messy but ok

green vapor
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ok sick

sweet crest
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0>=-b

green vapor
sweet crest
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Since b>=0

green vapor
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yea

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oh

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i see

sweet crest
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there is a simpler way btw

green vapor
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you mean like this?

green vapor
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wait that makes no sense

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why is it 0>=-b

sweet crest
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-a<=|a|<=a same for b, add them up -(a+b)<=|a+b|<=a+b and a<=|a|

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So |a+b|<=a+b<=|a+b|

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wops

green vapor
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i dont get it

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is my proof correct though?

sweet crest
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-|a|<=a<=|a|

green vapor
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or is thre still something wrong?

green vapor
sweet crest
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-(|a|+|b|)<=a+b<=|a|+|b|

green vapor
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thats the simpler way right?

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welp nothing i can do about it now

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as long as my current proof is ok im fine

sweet crest
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yeah, should be fine

green vapor
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ok thank you

sweet crest
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except <= and <

green vapor
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wdym?

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did I mess up the usage?

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where?

sweet crest
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Since b>=0 b>0

green vapor
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or this

sweet crest
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both

green vapor
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oh

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whats the right way then

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i dont get how the first one is wrong

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oh

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its supposed to be >=-b right

sweet crest
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yeh second one is ok

green vapor
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yeah i see where i messed up on the first one

green vapor
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im gonna hand it in now

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i should start doing this from an earlier date now

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finally done

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my god

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How can I show that matrix A is the root of the equation?

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plug it in and calculate

floral pagoda
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also west coast>>>

uneven matrix
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its not as bad as u think

uneven matrix
floral pagoda
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so im kinda confused where to even start

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oh just calculate A*A - 6A + detA * E

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and itll end up being tthe 0 matrix

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what does E mean tho?

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the identity matrix

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| 1 0 |
| 0 1 |

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appreciate you spending your time explaining

uneven matrix
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np

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you have a mistake

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you calculated -6A and then did -(-6A) --> +6A

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oh bruh

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I'll fix it

floral pagoda
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once again you have a mistake, you copied A^2 incorrectly

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what should my next step be?

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now youd multiply E by the determinant of A just like you did with -6A

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and add it again

uneven matrix
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yep

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I am very gratefull for your help. How may I prove that the matrix is the square of the equation?

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you mean root?

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you just did

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yes the root

uneven matrix
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say p(x) = x^2 -6x + |x|E then a root means that p(A) = 0

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and you just showed that p(A) = 0

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you saved me so much time

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I need to derive a closed-form expression for this summation.
I tried using partial fractions but at last i obtained some harmonic numbers which do not have any known closed-form expressions.
How can I solve this?

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Mind if u show what u get from partial fractions

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I sorta had to work with this sorta thing to find $\sum_{n= 1}^\infty \frac{1}{\sum_{m= 1}^n m^2}$ recently opencry

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Anyways if ur not taking to infinity and there isn't any telescoping going on there probably isn't any pretty closed form

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Just a bunch of Euler constant and digamma function ish u can find by inputting into wolframalpha

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However at least for my problem, when you take the series it turned out to be 6(3 - 2log(4)) which was somewhat pretty

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I kinda did it in a complicated manner but you might have an easier time using the aymptotics of harmonic numbers

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this is correct i think

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oh yeah that's probably the prettiest you can get devastation, but if you take to infinity there's telescoping that cancels out most terms but the first 4 from the sum 1/(4(j-2))

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its not that difficult

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yu[

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yup

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just expand and this will come

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i tried a different approach tho

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1/j^-4=1/(j-2)(j+2) and then plug values from 3 to n and terms will start getting cancelled and ull be left with 8 terms

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which on simplifying will give the answers i suppose

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my thing had partial fractions on a cubic cus sum of squares is (n(2n + 1)(n+1)/6 so that's why it was harder I guess devastation

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cube?

neat dune
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yeah cus 3 factors of first degree

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first as much as i remember square is n(2n+1)(n+1)/6

neat dune
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It partial fractioned out to like 1/n + 1/(n + 1) - 4/(2n +1)

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cubic is (n(n+1)/2)^2

neat dune
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no im saying the closed Form of sum of squares is a cubic poly

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oh yeah

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yeah

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I don't wanna try to figure out what the sum of the reciprocal of the sum of cubes is devastation

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But yeh it was really fun cus then you could split into like (1/n - 2/(2n + 1)) + (1/(n+1) - 2/(2n + 1)) and then with some slight correction (hence the +3) you'd have the negative of partial sums of the alternating harmonic series, minus the 2nd half of the partial sum of the harmonic series. Then take to infinity, so ln(2) for the alternating, and u could calculate the other value by rewriting it as a Riemann sum and then taking the integral from 1 to 2 of 1/x, which was also ln(2)

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And that's how u got 6(3 - 4ln(2)) catKing

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I need help

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hollow igloo
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Do I do

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7x+28+x-9=180

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?

crimson sedge
hollow igloo
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oh mb i meant 28

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then yes

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x=20

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what do i do next?

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ah ok so ABC is a part of a regular polygon

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and you've found x

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i got 168

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yes

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not sure how i am meant to get the number of sides

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do you see the exterior angle

hollow igloo
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x-8?

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yes

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let me try to draw for a simpler example

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okay thanks

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ok

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say we have an equilateral triangle (all sides equal to 60 degrees)

crimson sedge
hollow igloo
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120

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using that do you see how we can get the number of sidesFRG_AnyaStudying

hollow igloo
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to be honest

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nope

crimson sedge
hollow igloo
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so 360/120?

crimson sedge
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what do you get

hollow igloo
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3

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oooooo

crimson sedge
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see

hollow igloo
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so 360/x-8?

crimson sedge
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and what is x-8

hollow igloo
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12

crimson sedge
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so how many sides

hollow igloo
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30 💀

crimson sedge
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kekw yes

hollow igloo
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30 sided polygon 💀

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thanks so much

crimson sedge
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np np

hollow igloo
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is trianle ABC right angle?

crimson sedge
hollow igloo
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im just guessing tbh

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it looks like a right angle triangle

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but is there any way i can be sure

crimson sedge
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clue: pythagoras

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check if it works

hollow igloo
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👍

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ur very smart

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really confused by what im doing wrong here, i've attempted variations of this problem. I feel like I'm applying the product rule correctly, so ig there's an algebra mistake somewhere or something

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just saw it, didn't carry the half for some reason

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Simplify the function before finding the derivative

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hi, I would like help with these please

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i really couldnt get my head around this one

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pls ping me if you respond (sorry ik thats rude)

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for the first one start by completing the cone and getting its volume

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sure

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but then, how would i know the height

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(sorry if im asking really dumb questions)

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okay, thats fine

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i'll study similarity of triangles

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can you tell me something about the second one

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w8, not the same

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Well for the first one just count the volume

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The formula is V=\dfrac{\pi h}{3}({r}{1}^{2}+{{r}{1}}{{r}{2}}+{r}{2}^{2})

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$V=\dfrac{\pi h}{3}({r}{1}^{2}+{{r}{1}}{{r}{2}}+{r}{2}^{2})

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idk how to use the bots o nthis server

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It's just this

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Trying one more time, as I couldn't grasp from the last explanation before a bot closed the channel.

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I'm a math teacher in a small school, but trained in English--I say that to point out that while I'm passionate about math, I'm not extensively formally trained. That said, I'm motivated to pass on to students why certain patterns/methods work, not just that they do. I need to make sense of it for myself before I can do the same for others, obviously. Considering the photo/snip below:

https://imgur.com/a/S32fYFD

...how do I explain to students, mathematically, why I can simplify before the multiplication, instead of multiplying "straight across" the fraction, and being left with a very awkward fraction to reduce to lowest terms.

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They are divisible by each other

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Advice from previous respondant that I couldn't quite make heads or tails of how it helps break things down: do the explanation of fraction multiplication in the opposite direction to factor 21/44 into 7/11 and 3/4
multiplication is associative
multiply 11/7 with 7/11 to get 1

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That’s now what I meant

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You’re asking why you can divide those fractions, simplifying them before multiplying no?

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Yeah, specifically the numerator of one fraction by the denominator of another, before doing the multiplication?

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Do you agree that if you look at 21 and 7 they both have something they can be divided by?

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Yes, 7

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and 11 and 44 by 11

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Yeah, so you can simplify before multiplication because the values have terms they can be divided by

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Coming from a different angle, the muliplication at play is essentially multiplying the result of two division problems (fractions) together. Written like this: (-11/7)*(-21/44). I can't rationalize how I can "reduce" the terms of the "division" problems when they're in different parts of the equation.

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I recognize I'm not being terribly clear. I understand if you can't make heads or tails or my "roadblock"

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now you can simplify.

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hope that shows why this works.

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It shows me that it works, but *why * am I able to swap denominators, mathematically? Perhaps it's easier to break down/explain using the multiplication of the fractions (2/3) * (15/16). I've tried working out why this concept works using those simpler numbers, with no success.

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Perhaps it would be clearer in a general form, where you have $\frac{a}{b}\cdot \frac{c}{d}$. That is equal to $a \cdot (1/b) \cdot c \cdot (1/d)$. \ Because multiplication is communative, we may rearrange it to get $a \cdot (1/d) \cdot c \cdot (1/b)$, which is equal to $\frac{a}{d} \cdot \frac{c}{b}$.

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Calculustache

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@worn kraken that was so very helpful! Thanks! For my Grade 8 students, that's probably a bit much, but it helped me make sense of it!

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I honestly spent the last hour in a circular loop with ChatGPT trying to explain that he commutative property applied to the operation in the below picture, without breaking down how!

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$4cm+10cm/s^2$

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what

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no

dreamy zenith
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if im finding the displacement how do i solve this

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show the entire question

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do i just get rid of s^2 because displacement is distance

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no

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is the s^-2 just there because of the t^2

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no

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this is a weird vector

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you can start by plugging in t=2 and normalizing it

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how did the s^2 disappear

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the t^2 cancels it out

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but you plug in 2 for t to get 4

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which makes 2.5 10

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t^2 has units of s^2

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?

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t is seconds no

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so t^2 is seconds squared

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ok

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ok

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s^2/s^2=1

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this can also be turned into paramterics if you know what those are

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I'm more familiar with that

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How do I do this without graphing it?

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Are you familiar with translations, scaling, etc.?

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I am not

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ok. you're familiar with y = x^2, no?

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Yes, I am

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Good. Translation just means moving it around the graph

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so if you have (x-a)^2, that means you're moving y = x^2 to the right by 'a' units

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so if you have (x-1)^2, that's x^2 moved to the right by 1

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Would (x+2)^2 mean it's moving one to the left?

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Yes! Exactly!

opal crystal
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Ahh so it's backwards ha, interesting

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Now let's do up down

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I meant x+1*

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But same difference

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Yeah I got what you meant

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That was my next question

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Is that what the '-1' is?

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hmm?

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what do you mean

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opal crystal
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In the equation here, would the -1 be the up/down?

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Ah, then yes

opal crystal
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Okay, that makes sense

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The 8 scales the y =x^2, making it thinner or wider

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Also

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the sign of that 8 dictates where it opens

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How exactly does it do that?

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if it's positive, the parabola opens up, negative means it opens down

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Imagine y = -x^2

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what does that look like

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,w plot -x^2

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opal crystal
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Parabola

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It opens downwards because of the minus sign

opal crystal
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Yes

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if it's positive, it opens upwards

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I do want to note though that for all of this to work, your parabola has to be in the form $a (x-h)^2 + k$

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Anyway, so where does your parabola open?

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up or down?

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Up, since hte 8 is positive

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Good. Now the vertex is the determined by the left/right and up/down translations you did

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in this case, where is the new vertex

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(2,-1)

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excellent

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can you tell me what are the options for that last box?

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Minimum and maximum

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ah ok

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so what is f(2)

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-1 i believe

thorn lotus
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right

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so, knowing that the parabola opens upwards, would that be a minimum or maximum?

opal crystal
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So minimum since it's opening upwards

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Yes, exactly

opal crystal
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I'm just confused on the 8 now. I know it affects the upwards/downward, but how can I figure out exactly how it affects how thin/thick it is?

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ok, let's look at the plot then

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,w plot y = x^2

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,w plot y = 8x^2

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Look at the y-values

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8x^2 rises much faster

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Wolfram did a poor job at explaining it, it changed the axis scale lol

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Lemme make a plot

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there

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i hope that makes it clear

opal crystal
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Ahhh yes, that makes it a lot more clear

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So positive = thinner
negative = wider
right?

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no

opal crystal
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Oh

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positive or negative jsut tells you whether it opens up or down

opal crystal
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Ohhh right

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if a>1, it's thinner

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if 0<a<1, it's wider

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so if a = 1/2

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that's wider

opal crystal
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I see, that makes sense. I forgot about how the negative affects it here lol

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There

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might be a better way to visualize

opal crystal
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Sweet, thank you all for the help! That cleared things up a lot

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👍

opal crystal
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Yes! That's perfect, it helps seeing it on a graph

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You all have a good one:)

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how'd they get 1/4?

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$\left(\frac{f}{g}\right)(-1)=\frac{f(-1)}{g(-1)}$

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MrFancy

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?

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What is f(-1)? What is g(-1)?

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On the graph I mean. What are the values?

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Ah i see great

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thanky ou

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how abourt b and a