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left edge
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I would suggest fractions

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Not decimals

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Usually nicer

hot python
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decimals work here though

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my program doesnt mind em

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is my work looking good?

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i have to rank them from least to greatest so they have to be correct or the ranking gets messed up

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cinder venture
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The volume of a 3D pentagon is 5/2ABH

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How’d you get 13

jaunty mural
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Please do not call it a 3d pentagon

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i see nothing relating to a pentagon on there, only a hexagonal prism.

hot python
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im confused

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am i right or wrong?

hot python
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dire geode
hot python
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i just used the formula but again i dont have my work

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i can check it with the google calculator but i feel like im doing something wrong

dire geode
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,calc 2 + 2

wraith daggerBOT
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Result:

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dire geode
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use that as a template

hot python
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wait how

dire geode
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and then type your formula

hot python
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,calc

wraith daggerBOT
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Please give me something to evaluate.
See ,help calc for usage details.

dire geode
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well you got these numbers doing some calculation right?

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type those calculations after ,calc

hot python
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yeah ok

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ill have to look up the formulas hold on

dire geode
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type the formulas here

hot python
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V=πr^2h/
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hold on

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Does anyone offer 1v1 tutoring, through voice chat? I'm really struggling. I feel like I'm drowning in math. I'm currently in trigonometry

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round bone
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please tell me im going insane and there is something wrong with my work

round bone
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i simply dont see how question d. is 4.4

nimble mulch
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I think there's an error

long sleet
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Yeah its 5.4, just a typo from her

nimble mulch
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they also have 2.5 as the mean of the roots

round bone
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stupid college board

nimble mulch
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so -0.5 and 4.4 is wrong

long sleet
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Well 5.5 technically cuz you round up

round bone
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ok thank lord i thought i was going insane

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np

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crimson sedge
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I’m confused with this

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How do I solve for infinity? Do I need to graph this and if so, how? The e with the exponent got me confused

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do you know what e^-x means?

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No

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do you know what e is?

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Like the natural log thing

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yea just a number

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its special but you will learn later probably

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do you know what a negative exponent does?

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Umm I don’t think I remember

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crimson sedge
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hih thats what i said

blazing dune
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If you understand the limits of $C^{-X}$ as X approaches infinity

crimson sedge
wraith daggerBOT
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Sherif Player

crimson sedge
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he doesnt

crimson sedge
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so as e^x gets bigger

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1/e^x gets smaller

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e^-x as x goes to infinity is zero

blazing dune
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So when it approaches infinity it approaches to 0

crimson sedge
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you can look at the graph of the function to understand it better

blazing dune
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You should be able to solve it from here

crimson sedge
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Oh so what you did was you made the e^-x to 1/e^x? Then you substituted infinity to x and now it becomes 1/e^infinity? And as infinity gets greater, then the value gets smaller till it equals 0? Then the answer is literally just 2/3??

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yes!

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e^-x = 1/e^x

blazing dune
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Yes

crimson sedge
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its the same

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O okay so e is just a random number?

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nono

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e is a specific number

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What is e exactly?

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2.4 something

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Oh okay

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you should google it

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its like pi a special number we need for calculus and stuff

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Okay

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crimson sedge
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I’m in AB Calc right now and my teacher expected us to know it but i don’t remember my last teacher teaching it

blazing dune
crimson sedge
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yup sorry

crimson sedge
blazing dune
crimson sedge
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Definitely everyone in my class is struggling lol

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i dont think logarithm will explain where e comes from lol

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Well thanks guys so much

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Okay!!!

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How do you close a channel again

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peak bough
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What's the difference between arccos and secant?

crimson sedge
peak bough
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isn't that the same?

crimson sedge
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nop

peak bough
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how?

crimson sedge
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sqrt(x) is the inverse of x² not x^-2

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you might be confused because of the notation, sometimes arccos is written as cos^-1

peak bough
crimson sedge
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nvm

peak bough
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can u give more examples, please?

crimson sedge
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you might be confunding the ^-1 notation

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when you think of exponents, 5^2 = 5 * 5, or 5^-3 = 1/(5* 5*5)

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however, there is some guy who decided to name the inverse of cos(x) cos^-1(x), even though it doesn't mean 1/cosx

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to denote 1/cosx you need to write ( cosx ) ^-1, not cos^-1x

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Hi

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Pls solve (The recommended mass of a soccer ball is 0.43 kilograms. The actual mass is allowed to vary by up to 20 grams. A. Write and solve an absolute value equation/equation to find minimum and maximum acceptable soccer ball masses) equations

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Ok but I do not understand

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I am familiar with a few trig rules, just not too confident on which ones to use and how to apply them.

wanton grove
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the denominators should be easy enough to simplify

modest dove
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Are we trying to get exact values?

wanton grove
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well cos 60 is a well known value

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so we might as well substitute it

modest dove
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Right so, cos 60/1-cos(90-theta) + cos 180 * cos 240/1-sin(360-theta)

wanton grove
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cos(240deg) = cos(180deg + 60deg) = -cos(60deg)

modest dove
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Okay yeah that makes sense now, that is what I have done.

wanton grove
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right so just replace cos(60deg) with 1/2, then we can deal with the denominators

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do you know an identity like cos(90deg - x) = sin(x)?

modest dove
wanton grove
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,rccw

modest dove
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I am working with a friend, would this be in the right direction?

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wanton grove
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the concept is correct

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cant read a few things clearly so I can verify the final answer when you're done

modest dove
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alright, thanks, I think I understand now

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full tulip
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Yet another "1=0"-esque proof. I want to know what it means to "un-sine" an equation. As in, how do you go from the second line to the third line and why is this wrong? What are the restrictions? Thanks in advance.

versed fulcrum
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What do you mean by "un-sine"

spice kraken
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sin is not injective

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so you can't cancel sin

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if f(x) = f(y) implies x = y then f is called injective

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spice kraken
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,w graph sinx

spice kraken
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as you can see there are multiple x values such that sinx = 0.5

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you either write down all solutions

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or limit the domain such that sinx is injective on that domain

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I need help with my summer dossier and I can’t get to the answer of exercises 1) (b) and 2) (a). I have a picture of 1) (a) as a reference of how to work on it. (Answer sheet included).

crimson sedge
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anyone wanna help me with algrbra

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can anyone check these for me, and also i need help understanding the question 1

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@crimson sedge

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is it yo hard

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@crimson sedge

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<@&286206848099549185>

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midnight wadi
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???

crimson sedge
midnight wadi
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yea but this is already taken by other question

crimson sedge
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Oh? I didn't see it. I apologise.

midnight wadi
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so g(x) = 1/2 (2(x+2)^2-4)

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expanded= x^2 + 4x + 2

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therres a possibility that the answer sheet you sent is wrong

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Can someone explain this answer to me? I don't understand why they are saying that the velocity vector is perpendicular to the radius vector at the critical time of intersection.
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4755129/minimization-problem-of-parametric-equations-in-ballistics-minimum-projectile-s/4757765#4757765

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I am confused by this answer. xD

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I need someone smart to explain.

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When the liquid is added to a person’s blood sample, it is expected to turn blue if the person is allergic to nuts and to turn red if the person is not allergic to nuts.
The company claims that the probability that the test result is correct is 98% for people who are allergic to nuts and 95% for people who are not allergic to nuts.
It is known that 6 in every 1000 adults are allergic to nuts.

ebon drift
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Find the probability that the tested adult is allergic to nuts given that the liquid turned blue.

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how would I do that

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would I just find the average of 98% and 95%

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or would I subtract 7% from 100%

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Dyssrupt

junior dome
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comparing with distance formula

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you can see it represents a locus of points whose distance from origin (centre of circle) is constant = 1

lyric swallow
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Ohhhhhh

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Shit

obsidian coral
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Another way to do it, is take $x^2+y^2=1$ , solve for y, and you get $y = \pm \sqrt{1-x^2}$, then you can plot $y = +\sqrt{1-x^2}$ and $y = -\sqrt{1-x^2}$ indivdually

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dldh06

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I feel really silly asking this but could anyone please refer me to a website where i can read up on the solvability of a coefficient matrix purely based on its row echelon form. Its a stupid little thing that i never got the hang off in my LA class.

wintry wasp
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My book has a (very) small section written about it buts its horribly explained so i skipped it for like the whole LA course so here i am grasping spectral theorem but not when a mxn coefficient matrix is solveable lol

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somewhere in this playlist

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but also , try to find gilbert strangs introduction to linear algebra, that book is great

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When solving these inequalities, how does the number line give you the answer in interval notation? because it looks like in number 1 the answer is the red and blue parts of the number line but in number 2, the answer is only where the two red and blue parts intersect

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This is affected by the direction of the inequality sign. In 2, The answer is the common part of these lines, because |x| is the distance from 0 to x on the number line. If you go any further, the distance would increase and the value of |x| would be too big to satisfy the inequality.

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wise igloo
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it makes sense when i think about what the answer would be but is there a way to definitively know when to use the intersection of the lines vs the whole thing

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or do you have to like think about what the answer would be to see if it makes sense

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$\left|x\right|<a:\rightarrow :x\in \left(-a,:a\right)$

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themathboi #2137

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$\left|x\right|>a:\rightarrow :x\in \left(-\infty ,:-a\right)\cup \left(a:,:+\infty \right)$

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themathboi #2137

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$\left|x\right|\ge a:\rightarrow :x\in \left(-\infty ,:-a\right]\cup \left[a:,:+\infty \right)$

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themathboi #2137

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$\left|x\right|\le a:\rightarrow x\in \left[-a,:a\right]$

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yeah

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makes sense. i’ll probably just stick with thinking about if the answer makes sense

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thanks

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np

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I have gotten stuck on this problem. It is a problem that relates to compound interest. What I attempted to do was create two separate equations that equal the same value (final amount A) and then set them equal to each other. However, I do not have enough information to solve this, as there are two variables -- is there a third equation that I could make so that I could have a system?

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To calculate compound interest I used this formula

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ok obviously i can divide the z out

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but when put into a calculator i get this

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this cannot be correct

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when solving for pedro's amount of time, i get this. as this is negative i believe i must have made some mistake

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hello

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Just post your question

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I want to ask for clarification about thisss

high coyote
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Is my answer correct

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Wait its loading

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It's simple but im overthink

cinder venture
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So wrong

high coyote
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What did you try?

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Do you know what are the Cardano-Viète relations?

shrewd blaze
high coyote
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Take a look again into them and try again

shrewd blaze
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But i did what the formula saidd

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Lookk

deep oriole
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your values for A,B,C arent all labelled correctly

shrewd blaze
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Thenn

deep oriole
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then what?

shrewd blaze
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What did i do wrong

deep oriole
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i just told you

shrewd blaze
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Ohh

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So A=1 B=1 C=25?

deep oriole
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also your formula for the sum for number 2 is wrong, even accounting for incorrect labelling

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there is no B

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B=0 was correct initially

shrewd blaze
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A=2 B= -5 C=1 So Sum=B/A substitute -5\2, Product = C/A substitute 1/2? Whats wrong theree

deep oriole
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2 things

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c isnt 1, sum isnt b/a

shrewd blaze
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For got something

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Wait let do it again

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Imma just finish this in school, Thxxxx for your help heheheh

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What is the domain is it x greater than or equal to square root of 2 or is it all real numbers

naive zinc
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All number greater than 2

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Not equal

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Also all real numbers less than 2

sharp kestrel
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So what is it in interval notation

naive zinc
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Idk 💀

sharp kestrel
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why does mathway say this

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@naive zinc

naive zinc
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I literally have no clue

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I just searched up what an interval was and i guessed

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Sorry

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I have a probability question

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Say I have coins whose probability of H is uniform 0,1 what is the probability of getttinf 100 heads if I draw one at random

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Answer is 58, what did I do wrong?

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stuck walrus
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(please get a better eraser)

brisk cape
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yeah

stuck walrus
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-39 -10 is not -29

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on the very right side

brisk cape
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is that not minus 39?

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stuck walrus
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it is negative 39 subtract 10

brisk cape
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so 49

stuck walrus
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no

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negative 49

brisk cape
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forgot -

stuck walrus
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and also idk how the left side became 37

brisk cape
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47-10

stuck walrus
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you cancelled out the 10 already

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oh

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oh wow i’m dumb that got it

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Could someone help me with this question using Excel? I'm unsure whether the 103936.47 is the future value or the present value

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This is what I have so far but I feel like I'm doing it wrong since I'm getting a negative number...

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<@&286206848099549185>

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Anyoneee? <@&286206848099549185>

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soooo

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im too stoopid

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i dont understand dis?

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pls explain

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It's ok, another person can help me

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<@&286206848099549185>

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Hi, is there any helper that could help me😭

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I would try so can you write the question here since I have problems reading it from that Excel

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On January 1, 2023 Suresh Ltd. issues bonds and receives proceeds of $103936.47 to yield 7.00%. The bonds pay interest annually at 8.5% and mature in 3 years.
Required
a. Show the journal entry to record the issuance of the bonds.
b. What is the face value of the bonds?
c. Are the bonds issued at par or with a discount or premium? Will the carrying value of the liability for these bonds increase over time, or decrease? Explain briefly.
d. Show the journal entries to record the first two interest payments including premium/discount amortization on these bonds.

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So I understand that we want to get it into the reverse chain rule form then integrate

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but I dont understand how we get there

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Like I dont understand how wolfram got to the bottom left of the equation

celest ledge
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Called separation of variables, must be in your textbook. Just find it and read it

indigo notch
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God Bless your soul

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Bruh

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But how did he get to the separtion of variables

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I understand what it is but how did he get to the equation to be separable

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(x^2+1)dy/dx+y^2=-1

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(x^2+1)dy/dx=-1-y^2

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dy/(-1-y^2)=dx/(x^2+1)

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Hello! For this problem I got 42 but it’s wrong so I’m not sure on what to do

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I did 7 nPr 2

tropic oxide
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why tho

viral pulsar
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Cus there’s 7 choices

tropic oxide
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no there aren't...

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3 bagel choices * 4 drink choices

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it's just that

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you overthought it

viral pulsar
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So the answer is 7?

tropic oxide
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no

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it is not

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3 bagel choices times 4 drink choices

viral pulsar
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Oh

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So 12

tropic oxide
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yes..

viral pulsar
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Damn

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That’s it

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Thank u

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Does anyone know why there is a negative sign on both sides

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it goes from that to this

prisma gull
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haven’t distrusted the negative it seems

fallen moat
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iirc, you were asking about the same problem just now
and iirc, it's about the integral

still coral
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thats what im saying but somehow he makes it work still

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theres no integrals in this part

fallen moat
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i know

still coral
fallen moat
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can you post the part with integral? i think there are some problem with the ln(Q/C+V)

prisma gull
fallen moat
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yea

still coral
fallen moat
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it's the problem with the integral

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it should be -RC ln (-Q/C+V)

still coral
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I think he brought out the negative

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and then put it on the other side while he was dividing

fallen moat
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nope

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i think it's definitely a writing error

still coral
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im confused on where the 2nd negative comes from

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whatever he did somehow is correct lol

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idk about the writing

fallen moat
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because he "added" a negative "magically" after he did wrong.

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I'll draw on your pic real quick

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brb

still coral
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I gotchu ty

fallen moat
still coral
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the thing about integral is you can just take negatives out of them so it can be -c (int) 1/u

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am I wrong in that

slate lintel
still coral
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oh wait

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idk lol

fallen moat
fallen moat
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there are many negatives in the picopencry

still coral
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oh I understand it now

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lol

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I real ized you cant just pull out a negative

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you would have to do -(q/c - v)

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ty yall

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anyways cheers!

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bold lagoon
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Hello.
Given the value of Δ and all roots of a quadratic equation (in its basic form), what will be the method of finding values for a, b, c, for which the equation is true?
( I'm talking about an equation that will give out values for a, b, c after the input of the known values)

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mental trail
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If you know the roots of a quadratic, you can write the quadratic equation as a(x-x1)(x-x2) = 0

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Then all you have to do is expand

wanton grove
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this^

bold lagoon
fallen moat
mental trail
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You might have seen applications of this while "completing the square"

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This is just completing the square in the general case

lyric widget
mental trail
bold lagoon
lyric widget
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You deliberately add b²/(4a²) - b²/(4a²) into the expression in order to complete the square

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because
x² + 2x(b/(2a)) + b²/(4a²)
simplifies nicely to
(x+b/(2a))²

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and then the rest
- b²/(4a²) + c/a
is just additional garbage that you don't really care about, but fortunately (at least for deriving the quadratic formula) it's garbage that doesn't include x

bold lagoon
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Thanks, just one more thing stands out to me
How did you get Δ in the 3rd line? I don't see any expressions that could be simplified to b²-4ac

mental trail
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Put the two final terms under the same denominator of 4a²

lyric widget
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b^2 / 4a^2 + c / a
= b^2 / 4a^2 + 4ac / 4a^2
= (b^2 + 4ac) / 4a^2

mental trail
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-b^2 / 4a^2 + c / a
= -b^2 / 4a^2 + 4ac / 4a^2
= -(b^2 - 4ac) / 4a^2

bold lagoon
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Well, I think that I know everything I wanted to know

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Thanks

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I just need some verification? This is not a cyclic group, correct?

zealous portal
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Cuz I would a element with the order of 4 right?

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next spruce
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can someone explain
"the minimum value of () is 0, so the minimum value of f(x) = () is 1" how did they get the minimum value

tropic oxide
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sqrt(x-4) is always nonnegative by defn

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so it is >= 0

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and there is a point at which it is 0

next spruce
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ohh

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ahh so since the sqrt is 0 then the other one is 1 because +1

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is that right?

tulip stream
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minimum value a square root function is 0

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$$\sqrt {x-4} \geq 0$$

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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your function is $\sqrt{x-4} +1 $
\
so add 1 to both sides

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$$\sqrt {x-4} +1 \geq 1 $$

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

next spruce
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ohhh

tulip stream
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be careful though

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domain of your function includes 4

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if it hadnt included 4, then range wouldnt have included 1 of the range [1, infinity)

crimson sedge
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am i right

tulip stream
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no, one term is in square root, other is outside the square root

crimson sedge
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ohhh

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alr alrrr

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so that is the final answer?

tulip stream
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yeah

crimson sedge
next spruce
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yeah

tulip stream
wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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extract 4 on all sides

vapid edge
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range of f(x) = sqrt(x - 4) + 1 shifts by 1

tulip stream
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$$ 0 \leq x-4 < \infty $$

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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now take square root of all sides

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$$ 0 \leq \sqrt{x - 4} < \infty$$

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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add 1 to all sides

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$$ 1 \leq \sqrt{x-4} + 1 < \infty$$

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

crimson sedge
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in still confused on how greater than and less than works when there is infinity

tulip stream
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this wont work on every question so dont attempt this lol

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just use the fact that

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inside of square root must be always positive

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for that number to be defined in REAL numbers

next spruce
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it just paused for a sec

tulip stream
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you can kinda see it from the operations i did here too

next spruce
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yupp

tulip stream
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dont do it the way i did though

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there will be questions where you wont be able to do what i did

next spruce
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yeah it's way longer i think

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but it's nice to know more

tulip stream
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just remember that inside of a square root is greater or equal to 0

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or 4th root, 6th rooth , 8th rooth ... so on

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if root is even

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it must be positive or zero

next spruce
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nice nice

vapid edge
tulip stream
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in other words, non-negative value

next spruce
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ok additional question

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f^-1 means inverse?

tulip stream
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yes

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do you know how relations work?

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you take the set A and match its elements with another set which would be set B

next spruce
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yup, I just watched a vid on it to understand my hw better

tulip stream
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function is a special relation

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do you know why functions are special relations?

crimson sedge
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i wanna master function before i proceed to limit

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function is already hard for me man

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i wanna know how to shortcut in foil method

next spruce
crimson sedge
tulip stream
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an example

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every element of A must match EXACTLY one element of B

next spruce
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ohh that

tulip stream
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can a go to 2 and 3 at the same time?

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if its a function

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?

next spruce
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that's the relation and function thing

next spruce
tulip stream
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every function is a relation

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but every relation isnt a function

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oops yeah

next spruce
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ay i read wrong

tulip stream
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not a function

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nah you got it right

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A is domain here right

next spruce
tulip stream
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domain can only match one element of range

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so (a,2) only (This would be a function)

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if its (a,2) (a,3) its NOT a function

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but assume if c didnt match any element in B

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c is element of the domain

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would that make it a function?

next spruce
tulip stream
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yes

next spruce
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NICEE

tulip stream
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now when you are defining inverse functions

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you go from B to A instead

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B becomes the domain

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A becomes the range

vapid edge
tulip stream
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inverse of functions are not always defined

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reason why is

tulip stream
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this still makes it a function

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but when you are going from B to A it wont be a function since 3 WONT match with anything

next spruce
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can you make an illustration of this please?^

tulip stream
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this is the issue

next spruce
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oooo

tulip stream
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its better to ask in another channel since this is claimed

crimson sedge
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no

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im not asking for an answer

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i just said i what i feel

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oops also i forgot that u guys are discussing something

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sorry

next spruce
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bonk

tulip stream
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ok fixed

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so top is a function

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but its inverse isnt

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domain of functions can only match one element

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think domain as a child

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and range as mother

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every child has only 1 mother

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now for inverse to exist

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mother becomes the child and child becomes the mother

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so in other words every mother must have exactly one child

next spruce
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damn

tulip stream
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i think child-mother explanation is best way to memorize it

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reminder that in real life, a mother can have more than one child

tulip stream
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so on function f: b and c are children of 2

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3 is a mother who just doesnt have a child

next spruce
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okay i understand

tulip stream
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if every mother corresponds to only one child we call it 1-1 (one-to-one / injective)

next spruce
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ohh I remember my teacher mentioning this^^

tulip stream
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algebracially one-to-one(injective) functions are expressed as:

for all elements a and b in the domain:

if f(a) = f(b) satisfies then a = b

tulip stream
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geometric approach will help too

next spruce
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ooooo

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ok next step to the example I have here

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+1 was transposed right?

tulip stream
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yeah its sent to left hand side

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we want to isolate y

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normally functions are typed as y=f(x)

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to find inverse of them we try to find $$ x=f^{-1}(x) $$

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but this guy just swapped x and y straight up

next spruce
tulip stream
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well its kinda up to you

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you can just isolate x and type $$f^{-1} (x)$$
\ where you see it

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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or just swap x and y and isolate y

tulip stream
wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

next spruce
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ooooo

tulip stream
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here is a geometric appraoch to bijective (one-to-one ) functions

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you can draw horizontal line

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and if you they, its not bijective

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if a function is bijective

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their input is also equal

next spruce
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can you explain this?

tulip stream
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we add 4 to both sides

next spruce
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thanks for taking the time teaching me too OEIFJOSEIJFSEF

tulip stream
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np, thanks for baring to listen to my explanation

next spruce
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okay completed the example

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now I'll actually try solving the real problem

tulip stream
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here is an example of how to check bijectivity on graphs

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i drew the line y=2

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and saw that it intersects two points of the graph

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red curve is the graph

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it intersects one point in first quadrant

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and another point on second quadrant

next spruce
tulip stream
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any line that intersects the graph

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not only positive

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we could have drawn below x axis too

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i didnt specify what line i drew

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but its like y= -3 or something

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whatever you want to be

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notice y= -5 doesnt cut the graph though

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least value y can get is -4

next spruce
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ooo

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what happens if i get a negative

tulip stream
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how are you supposed to do get x from -x ?

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@next spruce

next spruce
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hmm divide both side by -1? or add both sides +!

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+1

tulip stream
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1st correct 2nd not

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you could have said multiply by -1 for 2nd one

next spruce
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ah

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let me try continuing it now

tulip stream
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there is an error though

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a silly mistake

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$$ \sqrt{x^2} = |x|$$

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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if $$ x<0 $$
\ then
$$ \sqrt{x^2} \neq x$$
$$ \sqrt{x^2} = -x$$

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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hint: look at the domain of the inverse

next spruce
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hmm

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dammit dropped my pen, now the ink is worse

tulip stream
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F

next spruce
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at least the domain is correct hehe

tulip stream
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so on function f , domain describes interval of x right

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@next spruce

next spruce
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yeah

tulip stream
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on inverse it would describe interval of y

next spruce
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yuh

tulip stream
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your mistake is when squaring

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we have $$ y-5 = \sqrt{2-x} $$
\ indeed

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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when you square you get $$ (y-5)^2 = |2-x| $$

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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we are free to use interval of x and y

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doesnt matter

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hmm

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what was interval of x?

next spruce
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ahhh

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0?

tulip stream
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thats not an interval

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interval is like (a,b) or [a,b)

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etc

next spruce
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ohh

tulip stream
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interval of x is the domain of f

next spruce
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so 5?

tulip stream
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interval 💀

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not a value

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i need interval

next spruce
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I don't know SOIJFOSIEJFOSE

tulip stream
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look at the question

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f(x) is defined from x to y

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domain to range

next spruce
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dying, Idk

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x is <= 5

tulip stream
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actually i lied, ,its wrong lol

next spruce
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awwbearlain

tulip stream
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domain of f is $$ (-\infty , 2]$$

wraith daggerBOT
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Cyrenux

next spruce
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ay it's that one

tulip stream
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my keyboard is dead

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using screen keyboard

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oh its back now

next spruce
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rip keyboard

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oh

tulip stream
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now, figure how |2-x| comes out of the absolute value

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by using our interval

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the way i would do it is (i dont recommend this way):

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since $$(-\infty,2] $$ then
$$ -\infty < x \leq 2$$

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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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now try to make it look like 2-x

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to do that we'll do following operations:
i) multiply all sides by -1
ii) add 2 to all sides

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by operation i) we get :
$$ -2 \leq -x < \infty$$
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and by operation ii) we get:
$$ 0 \leq 2-x < \infty$$

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Cyrenux

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ahh the thing you did earlier

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so its positive when its extracted as |2-x| = 2-x

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this is what you did though, hmm i think im high then

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you unintentionally did it correctly without noticing

next spruce
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slay?

tulip stream
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i thought it was going to come out as x-2

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lol yeah

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i slayed myself though

next spruce
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I hate functions SISEFOJSENSEFSLEF

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you dont have to do it like the way im doing though

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its bad

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the way i recommend is by typing values in it

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recommended way :
range of x is $$(-\infty ,2]$$
\ what we want:$ |2-x| = ? $
\ i will take a number in that interval, 1 looks nice enough
\$ |2-1| > 0 $
\ so $|2-x| = 2-x$

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Cyrenux

next spruce
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so how do i continue the solution..

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since absolute value spits out positive value

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nvm didnt work lol

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i was trying to repost it

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multiply both sides by -1 and its over

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or divide by -1 as you said

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same operation

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then its over

next spruce
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i'll multiply since I don't know how to continue when I divide

next spruce
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i think you are confusing the fact that $$ \frac{a}{-b} = \frac{-a}{b} = - \frac{a}{b}$$

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Cyrenux

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also i didnt type it but suppose b is not 0 there lol

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# wraith dagger **Cyrenux**

you now know this, notice however:
\ for any number a,b,c and where $b \neq 0$
\ we have $$ -\frac{a+c}{b} = \frac{-a-c}{b} \neq \frac{-a+c}{b}$$

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Cyrenux

next spruce
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cmds are hard here

tulip stream
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nah im just bad

next spruce
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oop

tulip stream
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if you want to move -1 on the denominator from denominator to numerator, you multiply denominator and numerator by -1 also

next spruce
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weeeeeeeeee

tulip stream
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Cyrenux

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also we have $$ -(a+c) = -a -c$$
\ notice however $$ -(ac) = -ac = a*-c$$

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Cyrenux

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(star is for multiplication)

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multiplication is commutative : $$ab = ba$$

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Cyrenux

next spruce
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yes

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$$ -(ab + cd) = -ab -cd = -cd -ba = -ba -dc = ... =$$

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Cyrenux

next spruce
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did i do it right

tulip stream
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shouldnt affect inside bracket

next spruce
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oh

tulip stream
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yes

next spruce
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YAYYYYY

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also did you know this ? $$ (a-b)^2 = (b-a)^2$$
\just like how $$|a-b| = |b-a|$$

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Cyrenux

next spruce
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difference of squares?

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jk

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no

tulip stream
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try to expand both sides

next spruce
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(a-b)(a-b) = (b-a)(b-a); Foil method?

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you can do that

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or factor the right handside like this:

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$$ (a-b)^2 = ( -(a-b) )^2 = ( (-1) (a-b) )^2$$

$$ (ab)^c = a^c * b^c $$

$$ ( (-1) (a-b) )^2 = (-1)^2 (a-b)^2 = (a-b)^2$$

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Cyrenux

next spruce
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I SURVIVED

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RAAAAAAAAAAAAA

tulip stream
next spruce
tulip stream
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which line

next spruce
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do you understand the 2nd line at least

next spruce
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yeah

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its power of two multiplications

next spruce
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oh your explaining the distributive

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(b-a) = -(a-b) but didnt type

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i just didnt type right hand side and straight up typed -(a-b) instead of (b-a)

next spruce
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ohh

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$$ (b-a)^2 = ( -(a-b) )^2 = ( (-1) (a-b) )^2$$
then use the fact that:
$$ (ab)^c = a^c * b^c $$

$$ ( (-1) (a-b) )^2 = (-1)^2 (a-b)^2 = (a-b)^2$$
if was like this you would have understood

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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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then use commutativity of equality (actually symmetry property)

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if RHS = LHS then LHS = RHS

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(Left Hand Side , Right Hand Side)

next spruce
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ohhh

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icic

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thanks for teaching me these!!!

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for 3 hours

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SOEIFJOSIEJFOSIJEF

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np

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i want to want you about something else also btw

next spruce
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oh what's that?

tulip stream
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when we are talking about injectivity (one-to-one ness) of a function
\newline
we observe for ALL real numbers a,b satisfying $$f(a)=f(b)$$

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Cyrenux

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we know that its a=b for every a,b satisfying f(a)=f(b) if injective

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notice how im saying ALL a,b

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because you can find infinitely many a,b satisfying a=b for f(a)=f(b)

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BUT despite infinitely many satisfying $a=b$ ,
\ if there is one exception such that $$ a \neq b$$ for $ f(a) = f(b)$
\ then that function is NOT injective

next spruce
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ooooo

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Cyrenux

tulip stream
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yeah keep this in mind

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"every" and "all" make a huge difference

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you can copy this definition to make definition of \textbf{non injective} function :
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for some a,b satisfying $f(a) = f(b)$ we have $a \neq b$

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Cyrenux

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that was all

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thanks for baring to pay attention

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thanks for teaching for 3-4 hours too!!!

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Hello, I tried to answer this but I am confused about the whole process of solving so Im wondering if I did anything wrong

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These are the questions

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And these are what I did

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Im pretty confident about my answer in no. 1 tho as it seemed simple enough

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Please help

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whats the original question

quartz yew
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<@&286206848099549185>

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Can anyone help please

dapper patio
quartz yew
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We need to use the epsilon-delta definition to show proof of the limit

dapper patio
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Ayo u in University?

quartz yew
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Yep we just started

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1st year

dapper patio
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I see sorry cz am still in last year of high school

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12th grade

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Idk epsilon delta thing

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😔

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Oh sadge blobcry

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Can I ping another helper even if it's not 15 minutes?

dapper patio
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Idk am new

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Oh Haha I see

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Oh thanks man

dapper patio
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Ye np

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Hey umm if no one replies do u know abt the brainy app?

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It might help with your problem

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Oh yeah I'll try that too ty

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You guess a value of δ in terms of ε and then confirm that by substituting the value of δ and check if you reach |f(x)-L|<ε

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Nice how about the rest?

dim tiger
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I didn't check them gimme a sec

quartz yew
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Ok cool

dim tiger
quartz yew
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😦 where did I go wrong?

dim tiger
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|6-x/3 -7|=|-1-x/3|=|1+x/3|=|(x+3)|/3

quartz yew
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Oh right from the start ahaha

dim tiger
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From here you can see that |x+3|/3<ε which motivates δ/3ε or δ=3ε then you verify as you did in part 1

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Isee Isee I'll work on it tomorrow cause it's very late at night for me here opencry

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How about my other answers?

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I didn't check them yet

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brb when I am back I'll check them and write the comments here

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Nice will do just that, have a good night/day!

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You too

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# quartz yew

here it should be $\delta = min{1,\frac{\epsilon}{5}}$

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calculus is fun

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you need this because you will get the following in the process of your work

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if $|x-2|< \delta$ then $|x^2-4|< \epsilon$

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calculus is fun

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so $|x-2||x+2|< \epsilon$ no if you can find a constant upper bound of $|x+2|$ you will be good to go

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