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weary vessel
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Same thing for y and z

rigid gulch
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Okay

weary vessel
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Tell me what you find

rigid gulch
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Y is 0

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And 1

weary vessel
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nnnnope

rigid gulch
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Yes

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It is

weary vessel
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nooo

rigid gulch
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Yes it is

weary vessel
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You want y to be minimum

rigid gulch
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Yes

weary vessel
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y=u-v

rigid gulch
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Okay

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It’s still 0

weary vessel
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0<=u<=2
0<=v<=1

rigid gulch
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0-0

weary vessel
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u=0 and v=1

rigid gulch
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-1

weary vessel
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gives the true minimum

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yess

rigid gulch
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Is this sort of like Jacobian?

weary vessel
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No, just finding out ranges :P

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now, max of y

rigid gulch
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So what work do I erase and work do I start writing

weary vessel
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what do you say!

rigid gulch
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Max of y is 1

weary vessel
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Nooo

rigid gulch
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2?

weary vessel
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yes, 2

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when u=2 and v=0

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that's when you get y's max

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😃

rigid gulch
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Z max is

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6?

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And min is

weary vessel
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yess

rigid gulch
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1

weary vessel
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right right

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There you go, you have them all

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$$0 \le x \le 3$$
$$-1 \le y \le 2$$
$$1 \le z \le 6$$

rigid gulch
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why is this significant?

wraith daggerBOT
weary vessel
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Because

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When you divide the integral into 6 integrals

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Each integral will have its own bounds

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depending on the face

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of the paralellogram

rigid gulch
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Wdym 6 integrals

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3 double integrals?

weary vessel
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6 double integrals

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6 because paralellogram has 6 faces

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and double because it is a surface integral

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takes forever honestly

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that's why the divergence theorem is used

rigid gulch
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my professor said

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idk

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for the final

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we can use either stokes theorem or divergence theorem for one of the problems

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whatever we are more comfortable with

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so divergence theorem is prob the more comfortable one

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for our final boss problem?

weary vessel
weary vessel
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instead of computing 6 double integrals

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and involving vector fields and normal vectors

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you only do 1 triple integral

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involving SCALAR field and no vectors

rigid gulch
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Actually divergence theorem sounds kind of nice

weary vessel
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i have a picture of it, wait

rigid gulch
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Just the name

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Sounds like the movie

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Divergent

weary vessel
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Oh you know it!

rigid gulch
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I haven’t watched that tho

weary vessel
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Nice

rigid gulch
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I hate

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How

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I’m studying over the weekend

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And I’m not watching Oppenheimer

weary vessel
weary vessel
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You can still do it using ordinary method

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but 6 double integrals

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Wanna do one of them for practice?

rigid gulch
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Yes

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I have like

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9 more problems left

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For this section

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16.7

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I still gotta do 16.8 Stokes’ Theorem

weary vessel
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mhmm

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Can you imagine the paralellogram we are dealing with?

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imagination is key

rigid gulch
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I gotta graph it

weary vessel
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$$0 \le x \le 3$$
$$-1 \le y \le 2$$
$$1 \le z \le 6$$

wraith daggerBOT
weary vessel
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just imagine it, don't graph

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it's like a box in the middle (origin) of 3D space

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length from x=0 to x=3

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width from y=-1 to y=2

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and height from z=1 to z=6

rigid gulch
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its just railroad tracks

weary vessel
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I will try, wait

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i can't lol

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just imagine a box

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around the origin of 3D space

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length from x=0 to x=3
width from y=-1 to y=2
and height from z=1 to z=6

rigid gulch
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let me graph it by hand

weary vessel
rigid gulch
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I prob butchered it

weary vessel
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Something like this

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it's okay, it's just to observe

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what we doing

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does not need to be exact

rigid gulch
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K

weary vessel
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Let's do these 2 surfaces for example

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The surface integral across S1

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$$\iint_{S_{1}} \vec{F} \cdot \vec{dS_{1}}$$

wraith daggerBOT
weary vessel
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Let's start with F

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$$\vec{F}=z , e^{xy} , \hat{i} -3z , e^{xy} , \hat{j} + xy , \hat{k}$$

wraith daggerBOT
weary vessel
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Do you think we can simplify F here?

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Like do modifications to it

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Only valid for the surface S1

rigid gulch
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Maybe

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Let me think

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From S1

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Y=2

weary vessel
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All points in S1 have one thing in common, which is consant

rigid gulch
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Z=1 to 6

weary vessel
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All points in S1 have one thing in common, which is consant

rigid gulch
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X=0 to 3

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Y

weary vessel
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x=3

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all points in S1 have x=3

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can you see it?

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imagine it

rigid gulch
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How

weary vessel
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The S1

rigid gulch
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Isn’t it Y

weary vessel
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y is varying, z is varying

rigid gulch
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That is constant

weary vessel
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but x is 3

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no, look at axes!

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i labeled them

rigid gulch
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Oh yeah

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X is 3

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I have mine drawn incorrectly

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Then

weary vessel
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it's constant, 3, for all points in S1

rigid gulch
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So plug in 3 for any thing

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I see having x in it?

weary vessel
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Therefore, only within this integral, you can substitute x=3

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instead of leaving it variable x

rigid gulch
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Okay

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Doing that now

weary vessel
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$$\vec{F_{1}}=z , e^{3y} , \hat{i} -3z , e^{3y} , \hat{j} + 3y , \hat{k}$$

wraith daggerBOT
weary vessel
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Notice that I am naming it F1

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Because it is valid only for S1

rigid gulch
weary vessel
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,rccw

wraith daggerBOT
weary vessel
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Noice

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That's the F1 part

rigid gulch
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Now take curl?

weary vessel
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$$\iint_{S_{1}} \vec{F_{1}} \cdot \vec{dS_{1}}$$

wraith daggerBOT
weary vessel
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We simplified F, to F1

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Now, what is dS1

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The differential normal vector to S1

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?

rigid gulch
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Yes

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Which I got 3 1 -2

weary vessel
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it's not the normal vector

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it's differential normal

rigid gulch
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0 0 0?

weary vessel
rigid gulch
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Then that would be

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Idk

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How would I go about calculating that

weary vessel
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you don't calculate it

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it's given by

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Since the normal vector is in direction of x

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you use dSx

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$$\vec{dS_{1}}=dy , dz , \hat{i}$$

wraith daggerBOT
weary vessel
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Did you digest it?

rigid gulch
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No

weary vessel
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I think this is all new to you

rigid gulch
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I’m not getting it

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Yes

weary vessel
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D:

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I suggest you consult your professor then

rigid gulch
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I mean I don’t think my lecture notes has that

weary vessel
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This is how you express differential surfaces

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we're just evaluating the integral right

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We simplified F

rigid gulch
weary vessel
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now, dS

rigid gulch
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He doesn’t have that anywhere

weary vessel
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eeeeh, you should do it the way you guys do it then

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this one is direct

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substitute F, substitute dS

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integrate

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check with your classmates for example, how they did it

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or consult your professor

rigid gulch
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My class mate has 21 done

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I just don’t think his writing is legible

weary vessel
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mhmm

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what can i say, this is the method I know

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the direct way

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but stick to how you guys did it

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you must learn mine though!

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even when you use the divergence theorem, you will need to express differential volume

rigid gulch
weary vessel
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stokes' theorem, you express both differential length and differential surface

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no way to get around it

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😛

weary vessel
rigid gulch
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Lol

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Idk

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He’s seem like the guy

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Who wants us to learn the hard way

weary vessel
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i seeeeee

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Allright, then

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Better stick to the notes :3

rigid gulch
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Well

weary vessel
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I wish you luck!

rigid gulch
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Yeah

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Idk if you can help me the way we learned

weary vessel
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I'll help you when it gets a little bit more advanced

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I hate the way your teacher is doing it tbh

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😆

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do i send you some of the laws?

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save them for later use

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i have them written in latex already

rigid gulch
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Yes please

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Oh wait what

weary vessel
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Divergence theorem

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Divergence computation

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Stokes' theorem

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Curl computation

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How to express dl, dS, and dV

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Save them for later use, you will need them

rigid gulch
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Idk how to email my professor about this

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He prob doesn’t want us knowing this

weary vessel
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Yeah yeah, im just saying, have them, not use them

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Someday you will encounter them

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You will have the laws ready

wanton sail
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Are you saying doing surface integrals isn't your passion??

rigid gulch
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So basically

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I’m not in higher level math yet

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To even be using those laws?

weary vessel
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i understand, i understand

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someday

primal pendant
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chris i feel you

rigid gulch
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Okay

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Soo my buddy texted me this

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That one is for a later question about a cube (saw it in answer guild while checking my work) but what you do after finding the crossproduct is replace all the x, y and z parts of the intial F forumla with the intial S parenters given (in this case x= u+v y = u-v z=1+2u+v) and then multiply it by the crossproduct you got

cedar kilnBOT
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ripe wasp
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ripe wasp
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help

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it an eaz question so wont take more than a minute

zenith sail
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What have you tried so far?

ripe wasp
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Tried getting value of R in terms of other values and stuff

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didnt really work

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and the trig to find sides doesnt work either

zenith sail
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yeah without knowing another angle I don't think trig functions are going to be much help

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but what else could we do with a right triangle?

ripe wasp
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idk pythag?

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oh I might have an idea now

zenith sail
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awesome, go for it

ripe wasp
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zenith sail
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I didn't mean you had to close the channel lol

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unless you already got it, in which case, nice job 👍

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distant adder
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if anyone is around to help with this again i could use some pensivebread

distant adder
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not really sure where the $\tau_j$ terms pop out from

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rubixcyouber

distant adder
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from $$ \frac{\sqrt{2 \pi}}{e^m} \sum_{1 \le k \le m-1,;; j \ge 0} \frac{\sigma_j}{m^j} \frac{k^{k-1} e^{-k}}{k!} \left( 1 + k/m\right)^{\frac{1}{2} - j} \frac{1}{k+m-1}$$ , we can swap order of summation and sum j first to get something like

$$ \frac{\sqrt{2 \pi}}{e^m} \sum_{j \ge 0} \frac{1}{m^j} \sum_{k=1}^{m-1} \frac{k^{k-1} e^{-k} }{ {k! (k+m-1)}} \sigma_j (1 + k/m)^{1/2-j}$$

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kinda looks like the result but not really - thats currently where im at

wanton sail
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wow knuth really didn't like writing out his steps did he....

distant adder
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trying to expand it out

wraith daggerBOT
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rubixcyouber

distant adder
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Yeah I got no ideas

wanton sail
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If it makes you feel any better, you're definitely not missing anything obvious....

distant adder
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I think riemman was onto something earlier but not sure

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If anyone has any suggestions I’m all ears

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@distant adder Has your question been resolved?

distant adder
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I don’t think will be answered blobcry

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brazen grove
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Hi, instead of trying to get the 3rd line from the 2nd you can do a reverse approach and try to get the 2nd one from the 3rd. I'll leave you the steps to follow:

Prove that the 3rd line is equal to
$$
\frac{2 \pi}{e^{m}} \sum_{k=1}^{m-1} \frac{k^{k-1} e^{-k}}{k!} \frac{\sqrt{k+m}}{(k+m-1)} \sum_{j=1}^{\infty} \frac{\tau_{j}}{(k+m)^{j}} (k+m-1)
$$
Just reducing terms and swapping the order of summation

After this check that

\begin{align*}
\sum_{j=1}^{\infty} \frac{\tau_{j}}{(k+m)^{j}} (k+m-1) &= \sum_{j=1}^{\infty} \frac{\tau_{j}}{(k+m)^{j-1}} - \frac{\tau_{j}}{(k+m)^{j}} \ &= \sum_{j=1}^{\infty} \tau_{j} (\frac{1}{(k+m)^{j-1}} - \frac{1}{(k+m)^{j}}) \ &= \tau_{1} - \sum_{j=2}^{\infty} \frac{\tau_{j}-\tau_{j-1}}{(k+m)^{j-1}}
\end{align*}

Finally use the definition of $\tau_{i}$ to obtain the 2nd line.

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BillyTheDancingKid

distant adder
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Bruh

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that’s smart

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keen nova
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why can't we 1) solve a^2 and sqrt(a) separately to begin with and 2) how can we perform the last simplification?

keen nova
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if we did a^2 and sqrt(a) separately they would be 2a and 1/2sqrt(a) , which gave me a v different answer

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and i cannot understand exactly how the last simplification is performed. I know sqrt(a) = a^(1/2) . But I just see the variable removed from its exponent and magically there's a square root

simple plume
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It's a raise to the power 3/2

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3/2 can be written as (1+2)/2

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Which will give you

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1/2 + 1

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Powers of the same base add when they are mutiplied

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It's kinda the reverse of the procedure of step 2 and step 3

keen nova
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the way i see it is we take a^(2/2) away from the right quotient and multiply it to the left, leaving us with a^(1/2)

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is that right

simple plume
keen nova
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and still can't see why we do the multiplication of powers. I know it's a rule and that we CAN do that, but I don't see why we HAVE to do that instead of solving them by themselves

simple plume
keen nova
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a^2 * a^(1/2)

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i know we CAN do 2+(1/2) giving a^(5/2)

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but why do we HAVE to do that instead of solving them by themselves

simple plume
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So really don't have to add powers you can solve it without that as well

simple plume
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Just use the multiplication rule of derivatives

keen nova
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oh

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so then they would be separate derivatives?

simple plume
simple plume
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But I'll recommend this method only. It's way more simpler and efficient

keen nova
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so if we don't add powers during multiplication, we have to do derivation for these functions separately, and then it would be the same?

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what is the multiplication rule of derivatives btw ? maybe i know but

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nvm, found it

simple plume
keen nova
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then i get $(a^2 * 1/(2sqrt(a)) + (2a * sqrt(a))$

wraith daggerBOT
simple plume
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Now combine them using LCM

simple plume
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For the first term you'll get (a^3/2)/2

keen nova
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i rearrange and get a^2 (which can be seen as a^4/2) multiplied with sqrt(a) (which can be seen as a^1/2). Thus I get a^(5/2)

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and then i multiply a^5/2 with 1/2 and get 1/2a^5/2

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thats my left term

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what am i doing wrong

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ah wait

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it should be a^2 * 1/a^1/2

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which is equal to 4/2 - 1/2

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that gives a^3/2

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divided by 2

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but for the right term i get 2a^3/2

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$(1/2a^(^3^/^2^)) + (2a^(^3^/^2^))$

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keen nova
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which i guess would give

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$5/2a^(^3^/^2^)$

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keen nova
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how can we turn this into

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$5/2a * sqrt(a)$

simple plume
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So now you are on second last step??

wraith daggerBOT
keen nova
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i did the terms through using the derivative mulitplication rule

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and now added like terms

simple plume
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So what you have right now is (5*a^3/2)/2

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??

keen nova
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well yeah if that's the same as 5/2a^3/2

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5 halfs a to the power of 3/2

simple plume
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Here

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a is in denominator

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You can share the pic of ur work

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It's kinda confusing

keen nova
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where the last term in my eyes could also be 1/2 * a^3/2 which would be 1/2a^3/2

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is correct?

simple plume
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Waitttttt

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Where have you used the product rule??

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Alright got it give me a sec

keen nova
simple plume
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Alright

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So now

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a^3/2

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See you can write

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3/2

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As

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(1+2)/2

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Right??

keen nova
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it's reverse power addition rule

simple plume
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Yeahh

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That's what I was saying from start

keen nova
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a^3/2 = a^2/2 * a^1/2

simple plume
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Yeahh

keen nova
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which equals a * sqrt(a)

simple plume
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Yupp

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And I'll still say

keen nova
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but now i learned how to do it from scratch, used the product rule for the first time lol, and got more experience with powers

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yes its faster

simple plume
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1st method is more convenient

keen nova
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but now i learned more

simple plume
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Instead of product rule

keen nova
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not saying i disagree but i learned more

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thank u a lot

simple plume
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No issues!!

keen nova
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wow

keen nova
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magic

simple plume
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Btw where are you from?

simple plume
keen nova
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i'm from norway but live in netherlands how about u

simple plume
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India

keen nova
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nice 🙂

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now math break

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have a nice day!

simple plume
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mystic abyss
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how do i do B?

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cinder shard
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Did you solve a ?

mystic abyss
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yes

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(200, 30)

cinder shard
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give me a moment

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Is B not just the value 200 then

mystic abyss
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?

cinder shard
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second

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one sec

mystic abyss
cinder shard
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yeah yeah

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one sec

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i misread

mystic abyss
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alr

cinder shard
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okay, consider this thought

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here is a suspension bridge diagram

mystic abyss
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mhm

cinder shard
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the turning point is in the middle

mystic abyss
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yeah

cinder shard
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what is x representing in your question?

mystic abyss
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the horizontal length

cinder shard
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well

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almost

mystic abyss
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the horizontal coordinate?

cinder shard
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yes

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logically, what would be the minimum value for x?

mystic abyss
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0

cinder shard
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okay

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and the turning point is in the centre, no

mystic abyss
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OH

cinder shard
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xD

mystic abyss
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0 ≤ x ≤ 400 right

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yeah that's the answer

cinder shard
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Yeah

mystic abyss
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ok i get it now ty

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unkempt bison
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How to find the extremum of f(x)=x^2-6x+5

unkempt bison
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?

sand meadow
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derive them

dusk finch
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Do you know differentiation?

gritty galleon
sand meadow
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yp

mighty shuttle
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whats the tips with these sorts of probability questions

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these ones in particular are combinatorics questions in disguise tbh

nova snow
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really?

tropic oxide
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yes really

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they can all be solved without pain by doing the (favorable outcomes)/(total outcomes) thing

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btw i really dont like the wording of question 9

nova snow
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what part about 9

tropic oxide
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the use of "female" and "male" as nouns

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it's creepy and basically incel-ese

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Where's the problem?

gritty galleon
tropic oxide
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should i repeat myself as to the grievance i take with how question 9 is written

junior dome
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the permutation questions i have in my book have a similar wording

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I don't understand what is not correct

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it's not about correctness, alberto!

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it's about creepiness!

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I still don't understand what's wrong with it 😅

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@gritty galleon don't sotrue me when i'm being 100% serious and genuine.

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or is it sarcasm devastation

tropic oxide
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it's ironic/sarcasm

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genuine agreement is this

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so to start simple with q7 what should be my approach

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can we please help OP

gritty galleon
nova snow
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...

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do you think "girl" and "woman" are disjoint categories or what

gritty galleon
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I am worried about the other genders ...we forgot abt them

nova snow
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so 3 yellow, 4 pink, 2 black

if 2 balls are randomly chosen find probability of getting a yellow and black ball

a) with replacement.

so 9 balls in total but i think i need a little more help

so do i do 3/9 * 2/9 * 3?

tropic oxide
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where did the last 3 come from

nova snow
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from the three different colours

tropic oxide
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well ok let's forget that you didn't follow my instructions here but like

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if you're gonna do 3/9 (for yellow) * 2/9 (for black)

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then surely you will want to do that times 2 for the two orders in which you could get them

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(BY vs YB)

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is this product rule?

tropic oxide
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if you wanna call it that

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may i ask why the order matters here

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isnt getting a black yellow and yellow black the same thing

tropic oxide
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drawing a black then a yellow is a different event than drawing a yellow then a black

nova snow
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are we drawing them at the same time

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no

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we are drawing with replacement

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this means we draw 1, record its color, put it back, and only then draw the second one

nova snow
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okay

nova snow
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well, if you want to go the non-combinatorial way then you still have to account for the different drawing orders

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since you do still conceptualize your drawing as happening one by one, you just don't put the balls back

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so P(B, then Y) = 2/9 * 3/8 and P(Y, then B) = 3/9 * 2/8

nova snow
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???

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sorry, i do not understand your question.

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2/9 times 3/8 times 3/9 times 2/8

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do i do that?

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no

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you add these two products.

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hm

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ok let's try this

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if $A$ and $B$ are disjoint (mutually exclusive) events, then $$P(A \cup B) = P(A)+P(B).$$ agree or disagree?

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agree

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"we draw a black and a yellow in some order" = "we draw B, then Y" union "we draw Y, then B"
and the union is disjoint

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agree or disagree?

nova snow
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P(A) and P(B) are not events but numbers. do not conflate an event with its probability!

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also A and B are events. i am naming the events im talking about by their plain-english (but precise) descriptions.

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said descriptions can, and routinely do, involve "multiple things happening".

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okay

tropic oxide
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i mean you don't need to agree to the same thing a second time...

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oh

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i forgot i said agree

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so whats next

tropic oxide
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wym what's next

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i told you how to do problem 7, you said you got confused, now i am uncertain as to whether or not your confusion has been resolved

nova snow
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ok

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i would like to try question 8 now this time with the combinatorics approach

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a deck of 100 tickets, 2 winners, 98 losers, we draw 4 w/o replacement

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there are 100C4 ways to do that

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er wait no ok

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what is a c4

tropic oxide
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it's not 2 indistinguishable winners

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it's a gold and silver again

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100C4 means 100 choose 4

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variously written as ${}_{100}C_4$ or ${}^{100}C_4$ or $\binom{100}{4}$

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ill just resend it here

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with these n choose k stuff i dont how how to really apply it to the questions

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4/100 * 4/100

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Can someone please tell me why is this true if the sequence of (An) is increasing

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The union sign with a dot on top means that the events are incompatible

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the events are disjoint, you mean..?

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Meaning the intersection of the two sets is the empty set

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yes, disjoint

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Yes

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ok

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Yes thank you

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have you attempted writing out a proof of this equality?

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Yes ,what I don’t understand is how a serie became a limit

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there are no series or limits...

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there are only indexed unions

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$x \in \bigcup_{n \in \bN} A_n$ iff $(\exists n \in \bN)(x \in A_n)$

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Yes but we can work with sequences,and series of sets the same as with ordinary ones

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not really

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Since the relation of intersection and union are relations of order

old basalt
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union and intersection are not even relations, they are operations.

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the notion of 'limit' is somewhat... involved for sets.

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union and intersection are like 100 times more elementary.

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I see

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I am sorry for my mistake

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So what are the first and second sides of the equality

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I mean I can understand the first one as a union of n sets but what about the second one

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no, it's not a union of n sets, it's a union of infinitely many sets

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as is the right-hand side

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Alright it worked since I can form any An from the union of the other sets

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which step you don't understand?

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Why is a2 transformed together with the trigonometric function?

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Hi

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I wanna ask why can system of linear equation can be represent by matrix

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Let the matrix A ∈ R 3×3 have the eigenvalues 0, i and -i. Then the linear system y'(x)= Ay(x) is:

stable and asymptotically stable

stable and not asymptotically stable

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I’m tryna understand the question of my book. It says determine the period for the following rational number

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What is the period

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it would be awesome if you could show us the rational number in question

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usually period is a term for trig functions

lament kelp
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Like 2/3

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-63/99

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16/7

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send a picture of the question please

lament kelp
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2

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then tl it

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or send pictures of the nonswedish parts

lament kelp
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tl?

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translate

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I just translated

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I looked up period of rational numbers and it said it is the repeating digits of the rational number

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of its decimal expansion

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I dont have a great calculator

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so 2/3 I assume it's period is something along the lines of 66

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No on my book it says 6

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ah

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then just the first part that repeats

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But the weird part is

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-63/99

vestal bear
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,w compute 63/99

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63

lament kelp
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Here book Says its 63

vestal bear
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yeah

lament kelp
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,w compute 16/7

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Oh shit

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,w compute 2

lament kelp
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2 doesn't repeat

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Hmmm trying to find the inverse laplace transform of [
\cmap {\mathcal L}{\map f t} = \map \log{\f{s^2+1}{s(s+1)}}
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It's kind of weird though because I'm unsure on how to deal with that log

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I'm not sure, but is it like with limits where you can bring it outside since it's continuous or smth?

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log(a/b)=?

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Do you take e^log or something

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so log here is natural log

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?

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Yes

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do you this identity

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Austin

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Darn I guess not

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First time I see it

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try deriving it

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so you can use it

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Well definition of Laplace here we go

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Is it in a table you have

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no

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I'd appreciate a hint thonk

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Any link for me to understand them?

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# crimson sedge No truth be told I am familiar with all of those except 17-19
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Im not sure how to do this?

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Do we have to re parameterize t in terms of something else?

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are there more instructions

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oh sorry

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it says we can turn the line integral into a flux integral

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yeah, can you write out the equation?

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was gonna type it out, but here it is.

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yup, so what's the curl of F?

crude scroll
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<Ry-Qz, Pz-Rx, Qx-Py>

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I could calculate that one

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<0,0,2x^2>

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awesome and then how can we parameterize the disc?

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that im am not sur

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okay so we have a parameterization of the circle already

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we need to figure out how to turn it to a disc

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maybe in terms of cylindrical or spherical coordinates?

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hmmmm well

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what are the parameterizations of the unit circle and unit disc in 2d?

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$(r\cos\theta, r\sin\theta)$

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right?

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right

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hmm so, like $(r\cos\theta, r\sin\theta, r)$?

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idt that is correct.

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almost

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so like

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in 2D we went from (cos t, sin t) to (r cos t, r sin t)

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now we have (cos t, sin t, sin t)

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how should we "fill in the circle" to make a disc?

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Based on how we did that in 2d, it should be (rcos t, rsin t, rsin t)?

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i see.

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no problem, do you know how to do the surface integral from there?

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actually

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What would the parameterized bounds be

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would 0 <= r <= 1 and 0 <= t <= 2pi?

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r=0 corresponds to the center

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can some1 explain to me this answer

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like how did that prove they r equal

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nope

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Which part exactly is confusing

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nothing

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like its another question

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Can you show it anyway

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How annoying

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Did you learn demorgans laws yet

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like doesnt wut he just proved just show that x is subset of AUB(complements) so then its also of AnB(complements) since its not in AuB?

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this is asking you to prove demorgan's law

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Yeah I think the answer given there is just incomplete

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how can they determine this?

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oh ok I'll look at that thanks

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it's a minus

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It’s still a plus

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It wouldn’t make sense to have minus

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yeah Ik

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well generally $var [aX+bY] = a^2 var X + b^2 var Y$

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I meant in the question

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I don't have a slick way of seeing it, but one thing to note is that if t > s then t/(1-t) > s/(1-s), so you can check the two cases t > s and t <= s.

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I see. That I realised, but I don't understand how they came up with these terms?

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If t < s, then E(BtBs) = (1-t)(1-s)t/(1-t) = t(1-s) = min(t,s)(1-max(t,s))
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if my mom say my dad not at home to get milk yesterday, when will he get the milk today? and how many milk he have?

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not a logical answer tho,

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but it's -1, he stole exactly 1 milk

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e^(pi*i) = -1

soft wagon
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i know it equals -1 but where he stole it from? need the answer for that

nimble mulch
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from somewhere he wants to keep secret from you ofc

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crimson sedge
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how do i solve this? it's a calculus concept that i haven't really learned much about

restive shard
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just undo each log

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not much calculus

crimson sedge
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well what's the inverse of log base 10?

crimson sedge
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sorry im not good at this

restive shard
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yea it's 10^x

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now how about log base 6?

crimson sedge
restive shard
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exactly

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now look at the problem

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imagine that everything inside log base 6 is equal to a variable u

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giving you log6(u)=0

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try solving for u

crimson sedge
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okay so u = 1

restive shard
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alright now substitute u for whatever was in log base 6

crimson sedge
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okay i think i understand

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so i just keep doing that until i get my answer

restive shard
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yep

crimson sedge
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alright, ty

restive shard
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np!

crimson sedge
# restive shard np!

wait also sorry one other thing

for this one, is it the same method or do i start from like the inside?

restive shard
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you should start from the inside

crimson sedge
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okay, ty

crimson sedge
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oh wait would i just set it equal to a different variable

rich mason
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log5(25) is 2

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log2(2) is 1

crimson sedge
rich mason
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x = 0

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anything to the power of 0 is 1

crimson sedge
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ohh

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alright thank you

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crimson sedge
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i can use a calculator on this, but im not sure how to interpret the given function because of the subscript 0 and the k next to the t. how should i go about solving this?

magic solar
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The k is constant subscript is no. Of bacteria at t=0

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never mind

hearty arch
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did you end up figuring it out

crimson sedge
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no one showed up but i asked this question somewhere else

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i have another question though

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but its unrelated to this problem

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does anyone know what it means when it says to say what values of theta does it intersect the pole? because isn't the pole the center of the polar graph? im not sure how it can have an angle measure

ember halo
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Math sucks

hollow trail
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then solve for k with the value you have for n₀, and with the given information (n = 1200 when t = 1)

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crimson sedge
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also do you know what it means when it says to tell the values of theta that make it so the graph is drawn only once

hollow trail
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for some of the graphs once you get a high enough value of θ it will go over the exact same points over again (because sin and cos are periodic functions), so you want to find a range for θ where it draws the whole function without going back over itself

crimson sedge
hollow trail
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probably easiest to work it out from the graph

crimson sedge
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so would a circle just have the range of 0 to 2pi

hollow trail
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yes

crimson sedge
# hollow trail yes

okay - and would that be for any circle or just a circle that isn't touching the pole

hollow trail
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it would be true for the usual form of a circle in polar coordinates, which is a constant radius (e.g. problem 60)

crimson sedge
hollow trail
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it wouldn't, no

crimson sedge
# hollow trail it wouldn't, no

is there another way to figure it out for that type of problem then? or do i just need to look at what polar coordinate lines the graph touches?

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it can be difficult to tell purely from where the graph touches since any given angle can put you in one of 2 quadrants. if the graphing software you use supports it, try changing the angles used as inputs until you find the smallest range that still has a complete graph

crimson sedge
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for this specific assginment

hollow trail
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in that case i'd start drawing until it seems like it "completes a loop". that may be before or after you reach 2π

crimson sedge
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i drew out the graph and it's just a circle thats on the right side of the y axis

hollow trail
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while you're graphing, try to keep track of which angles you're going through. in that case, it started in the first quadrant, then went to 0 at θ=π/2 and completed the circle at θ=π

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is this a good enough tesselation?

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whole bloom
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Yeah

tropic oxide
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wym by "good enough"?

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@hot python what do you want from this tessellation?

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Idk what to start

lunar lynx
quasi plover
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...

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Nicr

hollow trail
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generally in statistics when we look at a sample we're trying to use the data to find a statistic (calculated from the data in the sample) to estimate a parameter (calculated from the population, difficult to measure).

quasi plover
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Parameter?

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Idk, but if i answer. Ill answer B, but the answer A and C i dont understand

hollow trail
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just because the mean number of dramas was 15 doesn't mean many people watched exactly that number. It may be that none of them watched exactly 15 dramas.

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remember we're talking about the mean, or average

quasi plover
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Ya

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But like

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It also say like margin of error of 3

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Thats the part i felt most uncomfortable with

hollow trail
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basically we couldn't interview every single student. but we want to have some idea of what the average is for every student anyway.