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raven fox
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I don’t get what this means tbh

zealous compass
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I’m telling him he missed brackets

jaunty mural
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It was wrong, and I'm tyring to demonstrate why it was wrong.

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because clearly this point is being misunderstood

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jaunty mural
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Earlier, you did it correctly for 2.

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raven fox
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Yes I did

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raven fox
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Do I have to divide 5n by two

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Wha

jaunty mural
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No, forget 5n first

raven fox
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One second

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(1+1)^2-(1-1)?

jaunty mural
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-(1+1)

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This time you put the brackets in which is correct

zealous compass
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Oh I see what ur trying to demonstrate mb

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raven fox
jaunty mural
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The point is, the (1+1) should always happen

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before you do anything else with it

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you can consider it one unit

zealous compass
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Sheri is talking about the brackets

raven fox
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Yes

zealous compass
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Shuri*

jaunty mural
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And it makes sense if you first compute the 1+1 = 2

raven fox
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So do you mean I would do the exponent first

jaunty mural
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So now you should see what was wrong with 5n

raven fox
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Or something

jaunty mural
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which is 2

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then do the exponent

raven fox
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Yea

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Pemdas

jaunty mural
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Right and it woudlnt have happened here

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5n^2 = 5(n^2)

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not (5n)^2

raven fox
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So 25n^2-5n????

zealous compass
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Yes

jaunty mural
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yes

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The safest substitution is to put brackets in always

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,,f(x) = x^2 - x = (x)^2 - (x)

raven fox
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Fs but what do I do now

wraith daggerBOT
raven fox
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Do I need to factor or sum

jaunty mural
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I don't know what the question asks

jaunty mural
raven fox
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Find the value

jaunty mural
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well u have

raven fox
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I’m talking about 39

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Oh ok thank you

jaunty mural
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yes the value is in terms of n

raven fox
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👍

jaunty mural
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hopefully when u did 34, you remembered the (...)

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otherwise u'd get the wrong answer

raven fox
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I didn’t have to do 34 only 36 and 40 for that section

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jovial glacier
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Lets say I have a record of every time an Airplane has flown overhead.
How would I calculate the probability of a plane flying overhead for every 5 minute interval of the day?
What statistic functions/theorems would I use for that

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jaunty mural
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You would likely model with a Poisson distribution

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raw spoke
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How do I factorise this by grouping?

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slate lintel
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if it doesn't seem to work the first way you try, swap some terms and try again

raw spoke
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The answer given is but idk How it gets there

ancient valley
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Well to start what are some groupings you can make out of the terms in the numerator?

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raw spoke
jaunty mural
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The question is likely laid out so that it cancels with something on the denom, so at least try it first

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ok

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jaunty mural
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And then you deduce term by term what must be in the 2nd bracket

raw spoke
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Ye I see that but the problem is it says by grouping and I don't know what the steps to it that way are

jaunty mural
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You don't have to factor 'by grouping'

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specifically

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though

raw spoke
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no I dont I just want to know how to

slate lintel
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it's a little hard to see but it's worth it

jaunty mural
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That makes it hard(er) to group (working backwards from the answer)

slate lintel
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i'll give another hint here that you don't have to rearrange any terms, just group the first two and the last two

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then factor each one by whatever means you can

raw spoke
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I would have never done it that way

slate lintel
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i didn't realize it until i tried the others

raw spoke
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like that right?

slate lintel
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yeah exactly

raw spoke
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Ok thanks!

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crimson estuary
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how do i do 5c?

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smoky stump
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Could someone please clarify to me about taylor series

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Why does |x| < 1?

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wouldn't it still be valid for x to be any value?

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hybrid wren
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if i have a piece of steel thats 8' x 0.5" x 3.5" and i cut the pieces into pieces that are 3.5" x 0.5" x 3.5" how many pieces do i have?

smoky idol
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!status

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hybrid wren
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2

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i believe since the 0.5 x 3.5 doesnt change i dont have to worry about that too much

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so then do i just divide the 8ft in 12 inches?

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then divide that by 3.5?

smoky idol
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I think that's correct. Just remind me, is " feet or inches?

hybrid wren
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i believe we are working with ft in inches in this one

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i believe the final answer would be in inches

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and we are starting in feet

smoky idol
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oh that's not what I meant. I just can't remember if " means feet or inches

hybrid wren
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" means inches i beliee

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believe*

gentle flower
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single apostrophe for feet and double apostrophe for inches

smoky idol
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Okay then yeah your thinking is correct. Convert the 8ft into inches and do your division

hybrid wren
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so when i divide 8 by 12 i get

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0.6666666666666667

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which is like a 2/3rds right?

gentle flower
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that is incorrect

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are you trying to convert feet to inches?

smoky idol
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well, the 8/12 is

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but not the converting :)

hybrid wren
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im trying to first convert feet to inches

smoky idol
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Cause you see Atlas, there are 12 inches in each feet. And you have 8 feet

gentle flower
hybrid wren
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then determine how many cuts i can make

vestal bear
hybrid wren
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so i got 96 ft

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inches

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rofl

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then i divide that by 3.5

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and thats how many pieces i can make

smoky idol
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Right

hybrid wren
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so 27.42857142857143 pieces

gentle flower
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each piece has to be 3.5 x 0.5 x 3.5 so you’ll only count whole numbers, i think?

hybrid wren
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sweet so if i wanted to make a total of 108 parts

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i would then take that 27 '

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and divide 108 by it

vestal bear
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yeah round down

vestal bear
hybrid wren
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my bad

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the apostrophe

vestal bear
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convert 27ft into inches divide it by a variable x and set it equal to 108

hybrid wren
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if i can make 27 parts with that

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piece of steel

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and i wanted 108 parts

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i would need 4 pieces of steel

vestal bear
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yes

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can you send the og problem

hybrid wren
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lowkey no og problem

hybrid wren
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im trying to learn the conversion

vestal bear
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from feet to inches?

hybrid wren
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well not exactly

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i was just trying to understand how many parts i would have to make

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and the process of deducting that

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my bad how much material

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vestal bear
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is this some kind of project youre doing?

hybrid wren
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yes!

vestal bear
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thats cool

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what are you making

hybrid wren
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brackets

vestal bear
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brackets?

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yes

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what's the whole thing

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some kind of structure?

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do you have to make these by hand?

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or do you have machines?

hybrid wren
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i have a iron worker

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hydraulic press

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i just come here often for other math problems and i was just trying to make sure i got the correct amount of material

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its for a gazebo

vestal bear
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ooo cool

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I got a gazebo one time that came with all the lumber and hardware

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they're a bitch to put up

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the roof pieces need to be almost exact and the wood was warped in places

hybrid wren
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oooof i seen this meme about the home depot forest lol

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it was a bunch of gnarled trees haha

vestal bear
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LMAO

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yeah wood warpage is a big issue for those kinds of things

hybrid wren
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youd assume their transit has alot of moisture content

vestal bear
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I did some work for this one guy who made his own shed and he wanted some baseboards and trim around the inside

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all the trim he provided was warped and he built the structure with more warped wood

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nothing went together properly

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maybe some incompetence on his end

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hybrid wren
upbeat zealot
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Hi

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help xd

slate lintel
upbeat zealot
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Ablas espanol?

slate lintel
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si pero vayase asi

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rigid gulch
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rigid gulch
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actually

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wondering if i am doing this right

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i am told to prove that this vector field is conservative

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and then generate a potential function for the given vector field

dire geode
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Problem is really small

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wait seriously you cant read it?

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rigid gulch
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may someone help with this problem please

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im having a hard time figuring this one out

slate lintel
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not sure what they even want here, are they asking you if it's a sphere / plane / paraboloid / etc?

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rigid gulch
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Well

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They’re asking what surface it is

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And I’m having trouble determining that and my professor said not to graph it

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Just use what you’re given

slate lintel
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i mean it's like... that sure is a surface alright, and it's a pretty good description of it

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but what more do they want?

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help me this question

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uneven forum
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we have b=7 c=5 cos a = 3/5 find height ha

umbral dew
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can you show me the diagram?

tropic oxide
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consider finding side a if you haven't already

uneven forum
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tropic oxide
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ok then show your work and show what you found on the internet

uneven forum
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and i slove = 2,89 cm

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impossible

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ripe wasp
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ripe wasp
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Only help in part a

sonic thicket
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!status

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ripe wasp
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1 ig

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1

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1-2

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around there

sonic thicket
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What did you try?

ripe wasp
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(10,0) (5,70)

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Making an equation out of that

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then deriving it

sonic thicket
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Try making a equation using the volume of cube instead

ripe wasp
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(1000,0) (125,70) ?

sonic thicket
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Yup

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And since they said it decreases at a constant rate

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Slope is constant

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Do you know what shape that is?

ripe wasp
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Straight line?

sonic thicket
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Yup

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And how do you find slope of straight line?

ripe wasp
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y2-y1/x2-x1

sonic thicket
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And what would slope represent in this case

ripe wasp
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The rate at the ice block melts

sonic thicket
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There you go

ripe wasp
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Still not right

sonic thicket
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What's your ans?

ripe wasp
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-0.08

sonic thicket
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,calc 5^3-10^3

wraith daggerBOT
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Result:

-875
sonic thicket
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,calc 875/70

wraith daggerBOT
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Result:

12.5
ripe wasp
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Woah

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yea 12.5 is the answer

sonic thicket
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Check your work

ripe wasp
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Alr got it but its a negative this time

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,calc -875/70

wraith daggerBOT
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Result:

-12.5
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Wait nvm got it

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ty

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Hi guys

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harsh garden
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Does my answers we're correct?

vague rapids
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So your goal was to find sum and product of roots?

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Yup, all are correct

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forest carbon
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Is there a name for a graph (graph theory), like a lattice graph, where there's a repeating 'pattern?'

forest carbon
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More formally, maybe some subgaph size n is isomorphic to at least some number of other subgraphs

stiff totem
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a periodic graph?

forest carbon
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I googled that, actually! I wasn't 100% about its definition on wikipedia though

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Because I don't understand half of it

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I guess I will do some further reading and see if it's right; thanks!

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One of the properties of congruency is that if a≡b(mod n), then ac≡bc(mod n). What's the proof for the truthfulness of this?

dusk finch
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hint: a≡b(mod n) if and only if a = kn + m and b = ln + m for some integers k,l,m

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or other way to rewrite it is a≡b(mod n) iff a = kn + b for some integer k

inner elbow
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If a=kn + b, could we say that b is the remainder when a is divided by n?

dusk finch
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e.g. 5 ≡ 13 (mod 4) means that 13 = 5 + some multiple of 4

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!nosols

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dusk finch
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but yeah, that definition works too

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depends on what definition of modular congruency are you familiar with

inner elbow
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Because a-b is divisible by n, so c(a-b) would be divisible by n too, right?

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yes

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Got it

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molten quartz
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integrate that function wrt x..... is what i did right?

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cuz ans isnt matching....

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can someone help pls

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that is the correct answer

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** A cylinder of volume V has height (5pi)/2, and radius r. f(x) = [2sin(2x - 4pi) + 184]^(1/2). This function makes a solid when revolved around the x axis. The volume of this function is the same as V in the domain pi/2 to (3 * pi)/2. Find the radius of the cylinder.**
I squared [2sin(2x - 4pi) + 184]^(1/2) then integrated and got 184x - cos(2x)
Putting in the domain pi/2 and 3pi/2 gave me 184pi
Multiplied by pi gives 184(pi^)2
Is this the answer?

wild belfry
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I dont really know what they wanted me to do with 'cylinder of volume V has height (5pi)/2'

tropic oxide
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so you found the volume of that solid of revolution and you got it as 184pi, yes?

wild belfry
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Yeye

tropic oxide
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multiplying it by pi was pointless

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you're told that this volume you just found equals V

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$V = \pi r^2 h$ and you're told $V = 184\pi$ and $h = \frac52 \pi$, and you're asked for $r$

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wild belfry
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But dont I need to multiply by pi at the end after squaring and integrating the function

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I thought that was the method for solids of revolution

tropic oxide
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?

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oh wait no hold up

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i got confused sorry

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the way you've written the problem is a little strange with the order things are put in

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and the way you laid out your work

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ok wait hold on

wild belfry
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My bad haha

tropic oxide
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,w int[pi/2, 3pi/2] pi * (2 sin(2x) + 184) dx

tropic oxide
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right

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ok yeah so V = 184pi^2 then

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but otherwise what i said stands

wild belfry
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So r = √(V / (πh)).
r = √184π^2 / (5/2)π^2
Thats the answer?

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I think it is so I will close this

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But thank you!

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umbral pulsar
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If I want to point out n^5/2, is it correct? I am not sure with the 4 at all.. thank you

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1/2-5/2=-4/2=-2 so it should be 1+4/n^2 in bracket

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I was trying to do this example by myself and got stuck at the part where i got -ln|10-x|, i dont get why x>10 for all t and i dont get the books explenation. Does someone understand?

wintry wasp
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Also dont understand why -ln|10-x| suddenly becomes ln(x-10)

royal loom
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if x cannot equal 10

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and the initial condition of x(0)=50

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then at the initial condition, we already are above 10 (we are at 50)

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in order to cross below 10, we would have to equal 10 at some time

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but x cannot equal 10

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because ln(0) is undefined

wintry wasp
# royal loom if x cannot equal 10

oh okey i thought we were trying to establish this to show that this differential equation is the right one for this function. I get it now thank you

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because |10-x|=x-10 for all x>10

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oh yeah

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lol

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Thanks alot ahaha, exam stress is making me miss stuff like this

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no you're good! good luck

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How do i accurately draw curves

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so as to accurately get their integratin

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area

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i mean

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for example $$ x(x-1) and x(2-x) $$

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what

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vestal bear
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just integrate it I'm not sure why you need to graph it?

subtle horizon
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to know bounds

vestal bear
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oh

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you can just set them equal to each other

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.close

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that will give you your bounds

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7 + (-3) + (-5) - 10

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drifting ridge
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i keep getting -25 as my answer

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Could you show your work?

upper ruin
drifting ridge
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7

upper ruin
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drifting ridge
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yes let me get a picture

ancient valley
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!nosols

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Oh

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Mb

ancient valley
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All good, you should delete the answer though

drifting ridge
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i really dont get adding multiple signed numbers

upper ruin
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17 + (-8) is the same as 17 - 8

twilit knot
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There is no multiplication

drifting ridge
twilit knot
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7 + (-3) + (-5) - 10

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+- means -

upper ruin
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Oh you also copied the wrong sign for 10 in the second row

twilit knot
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So 7-3-5-10, do you get this part?

drifting ridge
twilit knot
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Ok so

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7-3 is 4

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4-5-10

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And repeat

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Yes?

drifting ridge
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yes

twilit knot
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Try now

drifting ridge
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my book only told me to change subtraction to addition, never said anything about changing the + to a -

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weird

drifting ridge
twilit knot
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But you can finish it

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/try from zero with the clarifications

drifting ridge
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4-5 = -1

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-1 + (-10) = -11

twilit knot
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Yes

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Any doubts?

ancient valley
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If it helps:
1+(-1) = 1-1
1+(+1) = 1+1
1-(-1) = 1+1
1-(+1) = 1-1
These are just examples btw not pertaining to your problem

drifting ridge
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idk i understand this question but i dont think i can remember when and what to change the symbols to

twilit knot
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--=+

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+-=-

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(also -+=-)

drifting ridge
twilit knot
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Life will not be kind with you and give you simple questions

upper ruin
drifting ridge
twilit knot
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In nature/physics/maths, you will find difficult stuff

twilit knot
drifting ridge
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how

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wouldnt it be zero

twilit knot
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I have a (complex) proof but i think intuition is better

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Imagine turning around

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And turning around again

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You're facing straight

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They cancel out

drifting ridge
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it was minus not plus

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If you're finished

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Did you try to do it in rectangular coordinate system?

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is the most efficient way to check to rref the matrix

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check rank(A)=n

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im jw since its worth so little marks ):

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actually obviously 1 is independant of 4, 2 is independant of 4, 4 is independant of 3, 1 is independant of 2, and then i can check 1 and 3?

slate lintel
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annoyingly it's possible for three vectors to be independent in pairs but dependent together

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rref is indeed fastest

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as far as I know

stiff totem
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so pairwise, each vector adds a new dimension, but all together, they're still constrained into a subspace

torpid urchin
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i was just looking at the signs and drawing conclusions based on that

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but i guess when you have so many vectors you can make weird combinations

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stuck in r3 lol

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i need help with how to get started with this question

stiff totem
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you can find the vector from O to B by adding the OA to AB

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the question then gives you the unit vector that has the same direction, so you can compare the i and j components of these vectors

calm bronze
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Oh omg thanks ill try that

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So when comparing do i include the root 17/ 34 bit or only what's inside the brackets?

stiff totem
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include it

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it's the same as $\frac{\sqrt{17}}{34}(3a+2)\mathbf{i}+\frac{\sqrt{17}}{34}b\mathbf{j}$

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Desync

calm bronze
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And then do i multiply the root 17/ 34 with the 3a + 2 or leave it as it is

stiff totem
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uhh, what are you trying to do right now?

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talk me through your process

calm bronze
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So I added OA and AB to find OB

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And now in tryna compare the unit vector of OB and the unit vector parallel to OB that is gives in the question

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But I'm stuck with the comparing ig

stiff totem
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right, so you want to find the unit vector of OB, right?

calm bronze
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Yes

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Wait whats the difference between direction vector and unit vector

stiff totem
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unit vector has unit length (length 1)

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they point in the same direction

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you have the direction vector OB from OA+AB, and the question gives you a scaled version of that same vector with length 1

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so you can try scaling down your vector OB to have unit length as well

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then that should be equal to the unit vector given in the question

calm bronze
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How do I scale down

stiff totem
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do you know how to find the length of a vector

calm bronze
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No I don't think so not yet

stiff totem
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ah

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you kinda need it to do this

calm bronze
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Can you tell me how

stiff totem
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yeah, sure

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so, you have the components of the vector from O to B

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in terms of i and j

calm bronze
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Mhm

stiff totem
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terrible drawing, but

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you have a right angle triangle here

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and you know the i-component and the j-component

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you can use the pythagorean theorem to find the hypothenuse, which is the length of the vector OB

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and you want the vector OB of length 1, so if you scale this vector by this 1 over this length, you get the unit vector you want (say it has, for example, length 20; if you scale it down by 1/20, then it has length 1)

calm bronze
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So for OB which i got (b+4) i + bj

I do (b+4) squared plus b squared to get the c squared( and then square root to find hypotenuse)

stiff totem
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yep, looks good

calm bronze
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And then that's the length?

stiff totem
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yeah

calm bronze
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And then I do 1/ length to scale it down to length 1

stiff totem
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yep

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and that should be the same as the unit vector in the question

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so you can then compare components

calm bronze
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Ohh okay ill do that and get back to you, thankyouu

stiff totem
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I just did this and I'm getting some pretty gross numbers, but it looks like it works out

calm bronze
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In getting square root of 2b^2 + 8b +16

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And then I do 1 over that?

stiff totem
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yeah

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then multiply that by OB

calm bronze
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Do i have to solve the equation

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Im getting imaginary numbers on my calc 💀

stiff totem
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what are you solving for?

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we don't have an equation yet, we've just multiplied a vector by a scalar

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unless you mean you've set

\begin{equation*}
\frac{\sqrt{17}}{34}\bigl((3a+2)\mathbf{i}+b\mathbf{j}\bigr)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2b^2+8b+16}}\bigl((b+4)\mathbf{i}+b\mathbf{j}\bigr)
\end{equation*}

calm bronze
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Ahh okay

wraith daggerBOT
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Desync

stiff totem
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then you just compare the i components and j components

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I would first rewrite $\frac{\sqrt{17}}{34}$ to be $\frac{1}{2\sqrt{17}}$

wraith daggerBOT
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Desync

stiff totem
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makes the fractions out the front easier to compare

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and also start with the j component, because they're a lot closer in form

calm bronze
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Wdym by compare 🥲

stiff totem
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they're the same vectors

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so the i components must be equal

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and the j components must be equal

calm bronze
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Right right

stiff totem
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so we have
\begin{equation*}
\frac{1}{2\sqrt{17}}b=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2b^2+8b+16}}b
\end{equation*}

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for the j components

calm bronze
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Ohh

wraith daggerBOT
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Desync

stiff totem
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that lets you find an explicit value for b

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then sub it into the i component to find a value for a

calm bronze
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Okay so i got b = 3.477 and then i jist sub that into the vector i got for OB ?

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As in I got b + 4 i

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So I do 3.477 + 4 ?

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Or is that too simple lmao i feel like im missing sumn

stiff totem
calm bronze
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Oh yes the 1/ length

stiff totem
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so you have
\begin{equation*}
\frac{1}{2\sqrt{17}}(3a+2)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2b^2+8b+16}}(b+4)
\end{equation*}

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Desync

stiff totem
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also I think my b value is different from yours

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wait nvm

calm bronze
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Is it the same

stiff totem
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I missed a b somewhere in my working, I'll run the numbers again

calm bronze
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Ah okay

stiff totem
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yeah

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sqrt(30)-2 is about 3.477

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u good

stiff totem
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and solve for a

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it also asks for an exact value, so I would use sqrt(30) - 2 rather than a decimal approximation

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I get a = ||sqrt(10/3)||

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Thankyouu sm

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i need help !?

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hoary chasm
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Pls don't use such EXPLICIT usernames

icy wyvern
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sorry will change

hoary chasm
icy wyvern
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give me a momemnt to change my user

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pretty solid username

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i should not like to drink that cider

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alright we back

icy wyvern
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alright

hoary chasm
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Good

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Go on

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nice username

icy wyvern
hoary chasm
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Whats wrong with the rest of u

hoary chasm
vestal bear
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??

hoary chasm
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Work

icy wyvern
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wdym?

vestal bear
solemn torrent
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prolly meant mixed fractions

tropic oxide
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also

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can everyone please stop clowning here

flint plinth
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real numbers are perfectly valid complex numbers

vestal bear
tropic oxide
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STOP CLOWNING @flint plinth

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@icy wyvern do you have any progress on any of these four fraction problems?

icy wyvern
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i have like zero clue on what to do i had a horrible algebra 2 teacher

tropic oxide
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okay

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let's backtrack a bit then

icy wyvern
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basically learning from scratch

tropic oxide
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do you know how fractions work, in general

icy wyvern
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thank you

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Lol yea

tropic oxide
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okay

icy wyvern
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depends

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i have a good understanding

tropic oxide
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so do you know how to add, subtract, multiply and divide fractions?

icy wyvern
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yes

tropic oxide
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ok

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in that case, you should have no trouble working out $\frac{1 - \frac{1}{3}}{\frac{1}{2} - \frac{1}{6}}$

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icy wyvern
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yes first one is a breeze

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i should be more specific on the ones i need help with

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the ones i need help with are

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2-4

sonic jewel
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good effort penisapple

icy wyvern
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chill 😭

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i’m desperate to learn

tropic oxide
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right

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okay

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so let's move on to problem 2

icy wyvern
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yes

tropic oxide
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$\frac{z - \frac{1}{z}}{1 - \frac{1}{z}}$

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tropic oxide
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there are a couple of different ways you could proceed here

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in principle you could just treat z - 1/z and 1 - 1/z as ordinary fraction subtraction problems, work them out, and then do the division.

sonic jewel
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u can multiple top and bottom by Z

tropic oxide
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...or you could do that

sonic jewel
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Yes.

tropic oxide
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but lowercase z, not uppercase Z.

icy wyvern
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what does multiplying by z do

sonic jewel
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it makes it into a non complex fraction.

crimson sedge
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are you able to write out in full the solution?

respond with one of:
(A) "Yes, I am able to do it. Give me some time to write it out, then I will ping you."
(B) "I am not sure whether or not I can do it. I will try, but I want you to check my steps partway."
(C) "I know for sure that I am NOT able to do it."

icy wyvern
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between like b and c

crimson sedge
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Ok. Wait

sonic jewel
icy wyvern
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ok so what would the equation turn into once i multiply by z?

sonic jewel
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z^2 - 1 / z - 1

tropic oxide
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this is an expression not an equation

tropic oxide
wraith daggerBOT
sonic jewel
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MY BAD GUYS

tropic oxide
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(z^2 - 1)/(z - 1) is what it would become.

sonic jewel
tropic oxide
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when you write \verb|z^2 - 1/z - 1| it reads not as $\frac{z^2-1}{z-1}$ but as $z^2 - \frac{1}{z} - 1$

wraith daggerBOT
sonic jewel
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i think we have adequate reading ability here

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So i dont think so.

icy wyvern
solemn torrent
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they mean interpretation

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we use parentheses to group things

sonic jewel
solemn torrent
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or some other brackets

sonic jewel
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focus on the problem

tropic oxide
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not an excuse

sonic jewel
tropic oxide
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if you keep up this habit then eventually you will forget what you meant and confuse both yourself and the person you're helping

sonic jewel
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But we must focus on the problem.

tropic oxide
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and even still this issue needs addressing, and i'm not a fan of how you are doubling down.

sonic jewel
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me too

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$\frac{z^2-1}{z-1} = \frac{(Z-1)(z+1)}{(z-1)} = {Z+1}$

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my bad i made a typo

crimson sedge
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LGTM! 👍

tropic oxide
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one of them is pretty fatal

sonic jewel
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yea.

tropic oxide
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you can and should edit your message

sonic jewel
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im not that good with computers

tropic oxide
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to amend them BOTH, preferably.

sonic jewel
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ok, thanks.

wraith daggerBOT
icy wyvern
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proceed to the next please and thank you everyone

sonic jewel
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no problem penis apple cider

icy wyvern
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i don’t understand 3

hoary chasm
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This is not your school friends server

hoary chasm
sonic jewel
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in question 3, mutliple the top and bottom by $x^2 y^2$

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sonic jewel
icy wyvern
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yes i multiplied

hoary chasm
sonic jewel
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it should become $\frac{y^2-x^2}{y^2+2xy+x^2}$

wraith daggerBOT
sonic jewel
icy wyvern
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yes

hoary chasm
sonic jewel
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Im 7ryan

hoary chasm
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You're welcome 7ryan

sonic jewel
icy wyvern
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i’ll try it myself and see if i get it right king

sonic jewel
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Focus on the problem

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Ignore the haters

icy wyvern
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ok idk

sonic jewel
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$\frac{(y-x)(y+x)}{(y+x)^2} = \frac{y-x}{y+x}$

icy wyvern
wraith daggerBOT
icy wyvern
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this is where i am

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how does the bottom turn into that

sonic jewel
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u just have to know

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i mean u can kinda do this

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$x^2 + xy + xy + y^2 = x(x+y) + y(x+y) = (x+y)(x+y)$

wraith daggerBOT
icy wyvern
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yes

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i understand

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question 4!!!

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thank you ryan

sonic jewel
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multiply top and bottom by ab

icy wyvern
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okay

sonic jewel
icy wyvern
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what would that turn into

sonic jewel
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ab(a+b)/b-a

icy wyvern
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alright

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idk what to do next

sonic jewel
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that might be the answer

icy wyvern
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answer key says it’s -ab

sonic jewel
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oh i read it wrong

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its

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$ab(a-b)/(b-a)$

wraith daggerBOT
sonic jewel
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and if u take out -1 from the bottom then u can cancel the brackets

icy wyvern
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but you’re just left with ab? correct?

sonic jewel
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no because u took out a -1

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which u mutliple with ab

icy wyvern
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i’m confused

sonic jewel
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$ab(a-b)/-(a-b) = ab/-1 = -ab$

wraith daggerBOT
icy wyvern
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where did the negative in the denominator come from

sonic jewel
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it was originally b - a

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which is -(a-b)

icy wyvern
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how?

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@icy wyvern Has your question been resolved?

icy wyvern
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no

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I've a solution which I'm finding hard to understand

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Can anyone pls explain this part

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Pls

solid juniper
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all prime factors of n less than n are divisors of (n-1)!

thin roost
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Hmmm

solid juniper
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no integer greater than 1 can divide consecutive integers

sonic jewel
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why then are they both squares though?

thin roost
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Let's say n=15, n=3×5 so 3 and 5 divide 14!?

solid juniper
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yea

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write out what 14! is

thin roost
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,w 14!/3

thin roost
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,w 14!/5

stiff totem
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write out the definition of a factorial

thin roost
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Nu e

solid juniper
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why 👎🏻

thin roost
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So, prime factor of less than n divide (n-1)! But not (n-1)!-1

solid juniper
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yes

sonic jewel
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@solid juniper can u explain why that means both n and (n-1)! - 1 are both squares

solid juniper
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still thinking about that one lol

sonic jewel
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gotcha

thin roost
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But, how does that relate to (n-1)!-1 not having prime less than n

solid juniper
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oh it’s because n and (n-1)! -1 have disjoint prime factors and n((n-1)! - 1) is a square

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for the next sentence

sonic jewel
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ohhhhhh

thin roost
sonic jewel
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disjoint prime factors as in n's prime factors can only be at most n, while (n-1)! - 1 has none less than n

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and also because k^2 is a square so they have to both be squares to satisfy?

solid juniper
thin roost
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So you basically mean if k | z => k doesn't divide z-1

solid juniper
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yes

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for any k, z > 1

thin roost
solid juniper
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good on the first highlighted sentence yet?

thin roost
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Still wondering why (n-1)!-1 can't have prime factor less than n

solid juniper
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the prime factors of n less than n all divide (n-1)!

thin roost
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I get that

solid juniper
thin roost
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Yes I also get that

solid juniper
thin roost
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So, is it like.... let's say a number 17.... 17 is a prime so atmost the the prime factorization contains 17 in it it can't contain > 17.... so is it same for the (n-1)!-1 is also?

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Since (n-1)!-1 < n!

solid juniper
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17 has no prime factors less than 17

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oh k i see what you mean now maybe

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it’s still just… what i’ve been saying all along though

thin roost
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P is a prime factor of n, p < n p | (n-1)! And p doesn't divide (n-1)!-1

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This is all I get

solid juniper
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that’s literally all you need to get

thin roost
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But why does p doesn't divide (n-1)!-1 imply (n-1)!-1 has no prime factor less than n...

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Wait

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I get it now

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OK kul

solid juniper
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lol ok

thin roost
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Nice, I'm literally DUMB as Shit

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What was I even thinking

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Fuck

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Anyways

solid juniper
thin roost
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Why does it has to be a square

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Can you explain

solid juniper
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let’s say a and b are integers and ab = k^2 for some k

thin roost
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Yes

solid juniper
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furthermore, a and b share no prime factors

thin roost
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Yes

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I get it

solid juniper
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a number is a square iff the powers of all the primes in its prime factorization are even

thin roost
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Ohhhhh

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I get it

solid juniper
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so both a and b need to have that property for ab to be square

thin roost
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Yes

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Since they don't have common prime

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They have to have even power

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a should also have even power

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B should also have even power

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Right?

solid juniper
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the primes in each of their factorizations, yes

thin roost
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Yes

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How does (n-1)! Is divisible by 4 for n >3
We see that if n=4,(n-1)! =3! Which is clearly not div by 4

solid juniper
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less than n

thin roost
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?

solid juniper
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4 also not prime

solid juniper
thin roost
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I'm looking after the bracket

solid juniper
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oh lol

thin roost
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Says, (n-1)! Should be div by 4

solid juniper
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yea looks like a typo

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should be for n>4

thin roost
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Yes

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Alr then

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Sq gives either 0, or 1 when mod 4

solid juniper
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yea

thin roost
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How did they conclude 3 mod 4

solid juniper
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(n-1)! = 0 mod 4 for n>4

thin roost
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Yes

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Oh

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-1

solid juniper
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yea

thin roost
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So for, n>4 there is no sols

solid juniper
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yes

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then you can check manually for n <= 4

thin roost
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And for n=1,2,3,4 ig I can basically check

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Yes

solid juniper
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yep

thin roost
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Thanks a LOT

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Mate

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A lot

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I appreciate your help

solid juniper
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haha sure thing

thin roost
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Have a good day/night

solid juniper
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you too

thin roost
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Thanks for the help again

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harsh garden
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Hii

cedar kilnBOT
harsh garden
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How do we get rid the exponent -1?

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In the x

native cosmos
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by flipping it.

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or more accurately finding the reciprocal

harsh garden
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Same goes there with the other side?

native cosmos
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yes. Negative exponents are just the reciprocal ^ (exponent)

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a^(-n) = (1/a) ^ n

harsh garden
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We will gonna get the reciprocal of the value of x?

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Also?

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@native cosmos

native cosmos
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In the image, it demonstrates solving for x by saying x^(-1) = u.
By solving for u, you are solving for x^(-1)
And since x^(-1) = 1/x, it is the reciprocal value of x

harsh garden
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Okay okay like -3/4 become -4/3

native cosmos
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yes

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u = -3/4
u = 1/x
1/x = -3/4
x = -4/3

harsh garden
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Okay okay

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T

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Thank you so much

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calm helm
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is 0.999999999=1

cedar kilnBOT
vestal bear
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no

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its approximately 1 though

calm helm
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but wiki

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says so

vestal bear
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idgaf what wiki says,

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0.9999999... with a million 9s is not 1

south tundra
calm helm
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what

vestal bear
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0.9 repeating is infinite 9s

calm helm
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what

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^

twilit knot
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It is one

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0.9recurring IS one

south tundra
calm helm
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wait no

calm helm
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this

south tundra
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Yeah, what about it

calm helm
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isnt it 1

native cosmos
south tundra
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Yes, 0.9 repeating is indeed 1

calm helm
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is it exactly 1

south tundra
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Yes, no higher no lower

calm helm
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my friend says its infinetly closer to one but not actually 1

south tundra
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That's when you write finitely many 9's

pliant valley
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its just approaching one

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but never is 1

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think of asymptotes for a visual representation

south tundra
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Yeah, introduce yourself to the notion of limits and you may understand what your friend meant

calm helm
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is that

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after uni

pliant valley
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no

south tundra
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In uni

vestal bear
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after uni?

calm helm
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after high school

south tundra
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First year calc

pliant valley
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its high school too

vestal bear
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people don't do limits in highschool? blobsweat

calm helm
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we do

south tundra
calm helm