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k^2 - 10k+25
If you don't know anything at all about completing the square, YouTube is a better first stop. But, if you have any particular questions about the method, we'd be happy to answer!
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I under stand everything up until question three. Can anyone help me solve that question
No one can help you if you leave it in a PDF
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gimme a sec
sorry for the delay
something came up
and i apologize the image is in low resolution
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for absolute values there are two cases
what do u do to the |x+2|
Please don't abuse the helper ping, you pinged twice in a 3 minute span. It's ping once after 15 minutes if your question has not been answered
no one has helped yet tho
Then just wait patiently
You just ping once and wait
everytime i wait it takes like 30 mins and still no one
Helpers are just people volunteering their time to help you. Be polite.
can u help with the question then
š more concerned with how many times someone pings u than actually helping
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At the underlined point, do I need to get rid of the fraction by multiplying everhing by 2 so I can factor it?
What is the question pls
I mean , the thing needed to be solved
We multiply by a constant to reduce the calculations. If multiplying by 2 makes the calculation easy for you, then sure do it
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Yea cuz that is easier to solve for me
This was all i wanted to confirm
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I was going to solve it by complex
I mean , i
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No thatās okay I already had it solved I jsut wanted to confirm that
Thanks tho
Iāve gotten to here, but idk how to answer the question .
When are the production costs of the two sites equal?
How do I figure that out?
(x-3)(2x+2)=0
Until here everything is right
2(3)^2 is me finding the y val
No
So is (-1)^2
why tho?
That is required answer
Cause isnāt that what you do when solving a quadratic ??..
Donāt I need to find coordinates ..?
No
Ok then
(x-3)=0 and (2x+2)=0
The questioned asked you when the production costs are equal
Find values of x and one will be rejected
X=3 and x =-1 Iāll reject -1 cuz it donāt make sense for the production cost to be = at -1
But now what�
when x = -1 it doesn't mean costs are at -1
when x = -1 it means the factories are producing -100 units misread
X=3 is not my answer.
why not?
The answr is 300
Who wrote these questions 
Itās in the workbook, bro is the wording not odd ???
The questions are super poorly worded. so it make sense for the answer to be just as bad
I guess
wait how is the answer 300 
Idk
can you show the answer sheet?
Question 8
Ask your parents to talk to the teacher
The questions and answers are bad
But was my work right?
Yeah it was up to when you found the x values
you didn't have to find the y values
Are you sure?
Yeah, i'm sure. go talk to your parents and tell them about how bad your math problems are
Nowhere in the question does it say x is hundreds of units built
Okay but just to recap,for this kind of question. As soon as I find the x values, Iāll reject the one that doesnāt make sense, and then Iāll just plug in the remaining x value into the word problem. And get an answer ?
and nowhere in the question did it tell you what costs were
I hope that the question on the test make sense.
Talk to your parents and tell them to do something about the work your teacher is giving you
But generally, is this the procedure?
I can't say yes or no because of the problem* making no sense
Does this one make sense?
@crimson sedge
Yeah looks great 
But how do I find my answr
How did they decide on 30$
one way is to look at the leading term
$$-50p^2$$
Brandon H
You know the leading term will have the shape of an upside down parabola
Yes
so as p increases
y gets smaller
but honestly
the way they asked both could be answers to the question
however they first start to break even at 30
then they break even at 40 then start to lose money again
Hm
@crimson sedge
How do I find how many items to break even
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Breaking even is when your net profits is 0
profits is calculated as you would in any business, revenue-costs
you solve for the zeros of that equation
your profit function is P(x)=R(x)-C(x)
the questions they are asking are equivalent to asking, when is P(x)=0? When is P(x) positive?
When is y=0 and when is y=positive?
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they want to know when that is equal to 0 or when it is positive
Thatās what the key says
yeah it's the same thing as what I said
if C=R then R-C=0
same thing as solving for when the function R-C is 0
if you make between 2 units to 100 units, it will be profitable. i guess
yes basically it's a polynomial so
If you read their work they already did that
it only changes sign potentially after crossing a 0
right but they asked how do they find it I'm answering how
solve for the zeros of R-C
use whatever method you want to for this, factoring of any kind that can be used if you want, or just the quadratic formula
all roads to the same thing
You should've solved the equation the other way around
The other person kinda talked about It I guess
But you didn't do Profit - Costs = 0
You did Costs - Profit = 0
You kinda get the same answer for the x intercepts(break even value)
but the range where they're making a profit would be different with the equation you have.
the points where R-C = 0 should be exactly the points where C-R=0, both equations are exactly where C=R
š Why are you still asking this question
but yes the profit region will be different potentially
Just remember Profit = Revenue - Costs
not just a math equation but an IRL one
yes, make the profit above x-axis
Wdym
It asks me
The question asks me
yeah but you were told the answer the last five times you asked the exact same thing
the break even values are the x intercepts of the polynomial
Okay, so when asked the break even value set y = 0 and solve?
yes. when R-C = 0, solve the equation. and ignore the negative roots if pops up
But Iāve got my P vals already
So what do I set = to 0?
That has been what you've been doing for the past two days
so yes
I donāt understand what do u set = to 0
look at the image you just shared
what is is equal to zero in the picture
(P-40)(1500-50p)
yeah you set that to zero 
So Iāve got now 40 and 30 as P values
and the P values are the x intercepts
I see.
But now what is my break even value?
the p values
So what is the price per book ? Tho?
the p values
But I have 2 values ?
are you confused what break even means?
break even means 0
No
Yes
Yes they are both break evens
Ok.
Thank you
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Can someone tell me how to solve the first problem?
you want the system
{ x + 2y = k
{ xy = 6
to have exactly two solutions
have you solved problems like this before?
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Need help
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whats the question again? what does S_ENT stand for?
Area of E N T triangle
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sry i tried, need bigger brain here.
geometry
no
ok
so I think the first thing to start with is the similar triangles
do you see how LEN is similar to LKM ?
yes
so can you find the lengths of EN, NT, and ET?
i tried but i cant find it
So we know LM is 15, what is LN ?
Keep in mind that KN bisects the angle K
take a guess
LN is 225/23
the point where 3 bisector meet is middle point of the circle thats inside triangle
So OE = ON = OT
I know there is one formula for this but cant remember the name š
Heron's Formula?
,rccw
yeah I believe that is a correct formula
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For number 4, how would I calculate the basis matrix A?
Would I just take 1(B1) + 2(B2) etc.?
I think you have to write A in terms of B1 through B4
How would I do that?
so you could set up a system of equations
And then solve for a,b,c,d?
c+d =1 , etc.
idk I'm guessing you just write the formula for the result of the transformation, when applied to vector {x1,x2,x3,x4}
It's been a while since I've done linear algebra
Can you maybe give an example if you can?
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If I have $5000, and a cookie costs $3.6, however after each purchase it goes up buy $0.05, how many cookies can I buy with $5000.
I need the formula to find the amount of cookies I can purchase
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
6. None of the above
I don't, I just need to know the formula to calculate it for a game I'm making
the price of n cookies in dollars is 3.60 + 3.65 + 3.70 + ... + (3.6+0.05(n-1))
which works out to 3.60n + 0.05 * (0+1+2+...+(n-1)), or 3.60n + 0.05*n(n-1)/2
I would use that, but in the code that would require the need for a while loop, which is very inefficient. I just need the formula to calculate it in just maths
you need to solve the equation 3.6n + 0.025n(n-1)=5000 for n
which can be done with the quadratic formula, as this is a quadratic equation
So I HAVE to do it with trial and error? Or is there a formula that I can use to get the number of cookies I can purchase?
?
@ me if someone responds
@warped hound $0.025n^2 + (3.6 - 0.025)n -5000 = 0$ You can then use the quadratic formula
Encrpyt
I'm not plugging it into a scientific calculator or anything though, I need to put in into a python script. (python doesn't have a solving method for the quadratic formula)
Python should have no trouble, it is just arithmetic
This is what ChatGPT told me to do, but it always gives me the wrong answer:
budget = 5000
initial_cost = 3.6
increase_per_cookie = 0.05
# Calculate the discriminant
discriminant = (increase_per_cookie ** 2) + (4 * increase_per_cookie * initial_cost) * budget
# Calculate the positive root of the quadratic equation
positive_root = (-increase_per_cookie + math.sqrt(discriminant)) / (2 * increase_per_cookie)
# Calculate the maximum number of cookies by rounding down the positive root
max_cookies = math.floor(positive_root)
print("Maximum number of cookies you can buy within the budget:", max_cookies)```
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how do you simplify ((D.B)+(A.C))+((D+B)+D)
Is this boolean algebra?
yeah
uhhh D+B?
in fact we can remove brackets cause the sum is associative
yes
let's remove all brackets
oh ok so the Extra D outside the brackets doesn't do anything
then we have B.D + A.C + B + D
is there a rule here?
yep I think you can reduce B + B.D to something
i see a single B would be the same as that?
and same can be done with D
thanks a lot
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what is the symbol that looks like an E?
"is an element of"
that
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not sure wtf is going on here, i would think youd do like (1/0.065(12))450e^0.065(12) - (1/0.065(3))450e^0.065(3) and then divide by 9 to get the average but according to the marking scheme (second picture) ig not
lemme try to figure out how to put my initial idea into latex
very difficult to know what you mean with your initial idea due to the notation, but you shouldn't be taking a factor of t to the denominator after you integrate
says this this the integral of e^ax in my booklet
also yeah
and do you see a x on the denominator?
didnt mean the t there
well then you essentially agree with the marking scheme
why is it only one 450 there tho
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2x+5y-10=0.
whats the goal?
the direction?
Line
right, its a line
can you post the entire question
on that line
XD
OKAY
Determine the equation of the circle that passes through the points A(-1,2) and (-3,0), and the center of the circle lies on the line
2x+5y-10=0.
i thought about
getting the
radius by knowing those two points
but
it only get me the right part of the equation
Not sure how to get the P and Q
Note that the distance from the center to A and to B should be equal
The coordinates of the point should be of the form (x, 2 - 2x/5)
Because 2x + 5y - 10 = 0 implies y = 2 - 2x/5
The center u mean ?
The distance from the center to A hence is sqrt((x + 1)^2 + (2x/5)^2)
If by p and q you mean the coordinates of the center
No
What's p and q then?
wait
lemme fill u in
The equation
has the radius
and the p and q
which is the
coordinates of the center
Anyway, the distance from the center to A is hence sqrt((x + 1)^2 + (2x/5)^2)
Well
i got thatr
distance
but
does that mean
that in the end
the equation should be (x-x)^2 + (y+2x/5)^2 = r2 ?
No
And the distance from the center to B is sqrt((x + 3)^2 + (2 - 2x/5)^2)
These two distances must be equal, right?
Yes, this is a quadratic equation with p as its unknown
You will find it using the equation y = 2 - 2x/5
Well, you could also use the equation of the circle, but that is gonna be way harder, so just stick with y = 2 - 2x/5
I defined x and y to be the same as p and q respectively
Okay, so solve for p in (p + 1)^2 + (2p/5)^2 = (p + 3)^2 + (2 - 2p/5)^2
And then find q using q = 2 - 2p/5 once you know the value of p
So q = 4
p is -5 and q is 4
yes but
i still kinda dont get how
did u equal those two equations above
those are for both r's ?
r^2 = r^2 ?
Yes, what we started with is the system of equations
2p + 5q - 10 = 0
(p + 1)^2 + (q - 2)^2 = (p + 3)^2 + (q - 0)^2
From the first equation we got q = 2 - 2p/5 and plugged that into the second equation
And solved for p
Wait so the first equation is just the line ?
but the second is
the two r's equaling for
Yes
a to center and b to center ?
Right
Of course
Determine how many common points have the line 4x + y ā 4 = 0 and circle x^2 + (y + 3)^2 = 34.
So
this i could just
draw and figure out
but
im not allowed to do that
That is basically the same as asking for how many solutions does the system of equations
y = 4 - 4x
x^2 + (y + 3)^2 = 34
has
Like we did previously, just plug in y = 4 - 4x into the second equation
But this time you need to check how many solutions does x have there
Yeah how do i do that
What quadratic equation are you getting this time?
well i still didnt get it but
what will the result of
the system be
thats what i wanna know
Alright
After plugging y = 4 - 4x into x^2 + (y + 3)^2 = 34 we get x^2 + (4 - 4x + 3)^2 = 34 or x^2 + (7 - 4x)^2 = 34
Expanding the brackets yields x^2 + 49 - 56x + 16x^2 = 34
Which is the same as 17x^2 - 56x + 15 = 0
istg
i cant follow this text converted math equations
i have dyslexia
uhhh
can we vc and u draw in paint
lol
guys i need help
$\begin{cases} y = 4 - 4x \ x^2 + (y + 3)^2 = 34\end{cases}$
x3+y3+z3=k??
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im following
After plugging the first equation into the other should get you $x^2 + (4 - 4x + 3)^2 = 34$ or $x^2 + (7 - 4x)^2 = 34$
A Lonely Bean
okay yeah
And expanding the brackets yields $x^2 + 49 - 56x + 16x^2 = 34$, right?
A Lonely Bean
meaning doing the
uhm
x^2+2timesXtimesY+y^2
in this case
minus
on the first one
part
$(7 - 4x)^2 = 7^2 - 2\cdot7\cdot4x + (4x)^2 = 49 - 56x + 16x^2$
A Lonely Bean
$$17x^2 - 56x + 49 = 34$$
$$17x^2 - 56x + 49 - 34 = 0$$
$$17x^2 - 56x + 15 = 0$$
A Lonely Bean
In order to determine the amount of solutions to a quadratic equation, we need to consider its discriminant
Its D ?
Yes
$D = b^2 - 4ac$
A Lonely Bean
If it's positive, then there are two solutions
If it's zero, then there is just one solution
If it's negative, then there are no solutions
In this case $D = 56^2 - 4\cdot15\cdot17$
contact ?
A Lonely Bean
Yes
You are welcome
Now give me
uhm
5 mins to screenshot what i need
and ill try
doing one task again
and ill come back
Okay
figured it out
thank you
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I'm getting x as negative
My working:
Since 110 is an exterior angle, the FULL interiro angle is 250 deg
hence 2x + 50 + 250 = 360
so 60/2
x = 30
wait nvm i think i made this unnesecerily
I made a mistake in initial calc before posting
soz
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Hi, just want to know if this is correct.
angles A and B are definitely not 45°
I was told its not an acute triangle so I figured its a 90-45-45 triangle
well it's not an acute triangle, it's a right triangle
but not all right triangles are 90-45-45...
do you have in writing exactly what you were told? it sounds like there might have been some misunderstanding.
Result:
0.64018439966448
sin(B) = 0.64, this is NOT the same as saying B itself is 0.64 of a degree.
How so?
sin(B) is not equal to B.
sin(B) is a trig ratio corresponding to angle B.
sin(B) is not itself an angle
which part of SOH-CAH-TOA deals with cosine?
CAH
spell it out
Adjacent over Hypotenuse
as an equation, in full
I dont know the equation actually
you don't know "Cosine equals Adjacent over Hypotenuse"?
Oh, yeah
Wouldnt the adjacent be 5 though?
"adjacent of the entire triangle" makes no sense.
Side adjacent to angle A
adjacency is relative to an angle
it is not absolute like you were trying to say
Makes sense now
And for finding tan its opposite over adjacent. I know now that the opposite for 90 degree for C is square root of 61. But how would I distinguish whether the adjacent of C is 6 or 5?
it's neither
C is the right angle
the concepts of opposite and adjacent are undefined for it
for the purposes of trig ratios, 90° is a special case
as your teacher says,
You know the trig values of 90° through your familiarity with the unit circle.
yes it is
no that is not what i was talking about.
sin(90°) = 1, cos(90°) = 0, and tan(90°) is undefined.
that's what i was talking about.
Oh, okay. Yeah I never knew that fact.
So tanC would be Undefined? Since its 90 degrees
yes, exactly.
Thank you! I really appreciate your help. š
for a moment that felt like a bot was saying it. but you're welcome
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I have a doubt in question 9, I am getting stuck in finding the nature of the roots, i can find the intervals where the roots are, I think that could get me something
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Am I right?
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What is the right answer?
Why is that?
[mod ping dealt with]
I got 1.2232. Is that correct?
Can you help with my math š
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how can I create a blocked letters on desmos
for future ref I would head to #latex-help for any latex questions since these help channels are mainly used for specific problems and questions that you're stuck on
but you can use the \mathbb{} command
like so
$\mathbb{R}, \mathbb{C}, \mathbb{Z}, \mathbb{LOL}$
MellowDramaLlama
etc
ok thx
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28.309 - 4.9
when we write it in normal notation with correct number of decimal places
wouldnt it be 23?
since the lowest number only has 2 sig figs
Not exactly
Sig figs with addition/subtraction is based on the least amount of decimal places
So the numbers before the decimal, don't get "affected" by addition/subtraction sig fig rules
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bcus the ans is 7050g but i calculated 7480g
can anyone help me find what did i do wrong
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Yea, ok @steel thistle I figured it out
You aren't counting for the fact that because each board is 1cm thick that it cuts into the other sides dimensions
You should have 2 50x50 boards, 2 50x48 and 2 48x48 boards
how
if the top is 50 x 50 then it cuts off a cm of the sides surrounding it
does that make sense?
doesnt
but can they just put the 1 cm outside
for the cube to be a perfect 50x50x50 that cm will need to be accounted for
Does that make any sense at all?
Or am I not explaining this right?
idk
Ok, give me a sec I'm going to make a diagram
Here ya go
Does this make more sense @steel thistle?
So you should have 2 of each board like this:
ohhh
Are we now on the same page?
So the areas should be 50x50x2 + 50x48x2 + 48x48x2 - 100pi
so (14408 - 100pi) cm cubed x .5 g/cm cubed
Which comes out to 7046.92036732
which in 3 significant figures is 7050g
@steel thistle are we good?
if you look here you can see that the right and left side of the cube are 48x50
Hmm, well I gotta run @steel thistle hopefully you understand. If not maybe somebody else can explain better
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Does anyone know where I can take a class over the summer to accelerate my math learning
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Look up resources yourself
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Is there a site?
For what?
if your local school offers summer classes
?
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I kinda wanna do online classes but I forgot the website name it was in here somewhere but I canāt find it
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hi i need help
,rotate
!status
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
6. None of the above
2
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can i have a look?
i see
nice!
you understand what's happening on this question, right?
if yes, let's start with (b)
i dont understand one thing
oh
how to determine the equation
is it based on the number given whether its positive or not
lemme explain further on this question (a) then
ok
your teacher did skipped some steps
ok
pq-qr-pw+rw
1st: rearrange to this pattern
pq-pw-qr+rw
this is your teacher's first hidden step
ok
yes?
nvm pls continue
oh typo, just corrected
ok
2nd group them into 2 pairs
(pq-pw) + (-qr+rw)
the brackets are mainly for clear expression
ok
yes
so, we can factor it out and become
p(q-w)
ohhh ook
done
and we notice that (q-w) is very similar to (-q+w)
yes however the equation is diff
but in what sense?
so we change it
one bracket is minus while the other iis plus
yes
yes
sum (-)+(+)) is (_)
hmmm?
ok
product of (-) and (-) is (+)
now plug back in
ok
p(q-w) + ( r ( -(q+w) ) )
r turn to negative
ok i understand
(p-r)(q-w)
very good
ok i understand now
let's start with (b)
ok
x
x(x+y)
6
and they will become
6(x+Y)
now we have x(x+y) + 6(x+y)
YEA
they will become?
(x+6)(x+Y)
done, remember it's y and not Y
sorry this isnt my com
in maths, they are usually representing different things
its glicthig
np!
now it's your turn for the rest
you can write them out instead of typing
if that's better for you
of course
ok done
for 4 terms questions
- group them into groups of 2
(be careful with the negatives) - get common factor(s) out of each group
- get common factor(s) out of the resulted 2 terms
how to ping exactly
type @ and it will show
yeaļ¼
lemme check
ok
well, (c) is not that different, lemme type it out first
ok
3 and 9
what common factor(s) do they have
a
and ?
c
a and 3 ?
3a
3a(?????)
3a(b-3d)
correct
i bet you can continue from here
(note that always get ALL common factors out before next step)
yey
its (3a+c)(b-3d)
correct!
i think i can do the rest

ty
bye~
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if the first permutation has p inversions
how many will the second one have
say in general
we don't know values of n1, n2, nk....
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can you define āinversionsā?
a permutation has only one inverse( f * f^(-1) = f^(-1) * f = e)
when number of bigger value is before number of smaller value
(3 2 1) has 3 inversions
3>2
3 >1
2>1
Does this mean an inversion is a permutation
inversions are in permutation
and we want to know how many there are in lower row of the second one
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is this group theory?
not really, we can leave that out
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consider two numbers ni, nj in the permutation, show that A iff B, where
A: They form an inversion in the first permutation
B: They do not form an inversion in the second permutation
i understand that



