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crimson delta
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z+conj(z) = 2 Re(z)

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and z=<u,v>

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so this is just 2 Re(<u,v>)

opal ravine
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wait so for complex vectors its (|u+v|² - |u+iv|²)/2

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and for real vectors it would be 4<u,v>

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right?

crimson delta
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what is "it"

opal ravine
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scalar product solution?

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Idk I might be confusing you beacuse Im myself pretty confused about this lmao

crimson delta
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$\langle u+v, u+v \rangle = \norm{u}^2 + 2 Re\langle u, v\rangle + \norm{v}^2$

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yes?

wraith daggerBOT
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Denascite

opal ravine
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and <u+v, u+v> = | |u+v| |^2?

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right?

crimson delta
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yes

opal ravine
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yeah

crimson delta
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now what about <u+iv, u+iv> ?

opal ravine
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uhh

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is it | |u| |^2+2Re<u,v,>+| |vi| |^2

crimson delta
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no

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<u+iv,u+iv> = <u,u> + <u, iv> + <iv, u> + <iv, iv>

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same as before but just now with the vector iv instead of v

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what next

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what can we do with the terms <u,iv> and <iv, u>

opal ravine
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make it 2i<u,v>?

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actually no

crimson delta
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<u, iv> = i<u,v>

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but what about the other one

opal ravine
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i<v,u>?

crimson delta
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yes and then next?

opal ravine
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2i*(<u,v>+<v,u>)

crimson delta
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wait sorry I slept

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<iv, u> is not equal to i<v,u>

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it's equal to -i<v,u>

opal ravine
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<u,u> -2i (<u, v> + <v, u>) -2i <v, v>

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actually wait

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yeah is it that?

crimson delta
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no

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what can you say about z-conj(z)

opal ravine
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thats its equal to <u,v>-<v,u>?

crimson delta
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I mean as a general identity for complex numbers

opal ravine
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i mean isnt z=a-bi

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no clue about conj(z)

crimson delta
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z=a+bi

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conj(z)=a-bi

opal ravine
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i mean + yeah

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so where do we go from there?

crimson delta
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what is (a+bi)-(a-bi)

opal ravine
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2bi?

crimson delta
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yes

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which is equal to 2i Im(z)

opal ravine
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lm(z)?

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what is that

crimson delta
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imaginary part of z

opal ravine
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oh i not l

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gotcha

crimson delta
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so now putting the pieces together, what is <u,iv>+<iv, u> ?

opal ravine
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2i*lm(z)?

crimson delta
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and what is z

opal ravine
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a+bi

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so 2i*lm(a+bi)

crimson delta
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z=<u,v>

opal ravine
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oh wait yeah

crimson delta
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so <u,iv>+<iv,u> = 2i Im <u,v>

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and what is <iv, iv> ?

opal ravine
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as<iv, u> = -i<v,u>

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would <iv,iv> just be -2i<v,v>

crimson delta
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no

opal ravine
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which is -2i| |v| |^2

crimson delta
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where are you getting the 2 from

opal ravine
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since it has iv and iv

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meaning 2 i's

crimson delta
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$\langle iv, iv\rangle = i \overline{i} \langle v, v\rangle$. where the $i$ is from the second argument and the $\overline{i}$ is from the first. now what

wraith daggerBOT
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Denascite

opal ravine
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But why is it conjugate(i)

crimson delta
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do you know the axioms for scalar products

opal ravine
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first time I hear that

crimson delta
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what is a scalar product

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what properties does <u,v> have to fulfill to be called a scalar product/dot product/inner product

opal ravine
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same as dot product

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both vectors have to be in the same dimensions?

crimson delta
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$\langle \lambda x,y\rangle = \overline\lambda \langle x,y\rangle$ and $\langle x,\lambda y \rangle = \lambda \langle x,y\rangle$

wraith daggerBOT
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Denascite

crimson delta
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ever seen those?

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where x,y are vectors and lambda is a scalar

opal ravine
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seems familiar

crimson delta
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here lambda=i

opal ravine
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aight

opal ravine
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what is the conjugate of i?

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doesnt i=sqrt(-1)

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but what is the conjugate of that?

crimson delta
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just -i

opal ravine
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so its i-i? which is just 0

crimson delta
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no, multiplication

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i*(-i)

opal ravine
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oh yeah

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so its -2i?

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i mean

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-i^2

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so its just -i^2<v,v>

crimson delta
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which is?

opal ravine
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which is (-i^2)*| |v| |^2

crimson delta
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what is i^2

opal ravine
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1

crimson delta
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no

opal ravine
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is it 0 then?

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Hold on cant recall

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oh is it just -1

crimson delta
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yes

opal ravine
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so its (-1)*| |v| |^2

crimson delta
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so what is -i^2 ?

opal ravine
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its 1

crimson delta
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yes

opal ravine
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so its just | |v| |^2

crimson delta
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yes

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and now lets put those things together

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$\langle u+iv, u+iv \rangle = \norm{u}^2 - 2i Im \langle u, v\rangle + \norm{v}^2$

opal ravine
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so in the end we get | |u| |^2+2i*Im(<u,v>)..

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oh

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you already did it lmao

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gotcha

crimson delta
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so what do we now get if we combine them

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$\norm{u+v}^2-\norm{u+iv}^2 = $ ?

wraith daggerBOT
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Denascite

opal ravine
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combine what

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oh wait nvm

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yeah

crimson delta
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whoops didnt send $\norm{u+v}^2-\norm{u+iv}^2 =?$

opal ravine
wraith daggerBOT
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Denascite

opal ravine
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oh right

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gimme a sec

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correct?

crimson delta
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no

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where did you get that from

opal ravine
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this? except this is for real vectors

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what we just solved was the same but for complex ones

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right?

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oh wait

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so we get this?

crimson delta
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and now subtract those

opal ravine
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and we get -2iIm(<u,v>)-2Re(<u,v>)

crimson delta
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well in the other order

opal ravine
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wait the order matters?

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oh wait yeah

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2iIm(<u,v>)+2Re(<u,v>)

crimson delta
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and now divide by 2

opal ravine
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why do we divide it by two?

crimson delta
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what formula do we want to prove?

opal ravine
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scalar product of <u,v> can be computed via norms

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chat isnt loading up far enough for some reason

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.

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Im pretty sure we dont have to divide by 2 do we?

crimson delta
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.

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but something is fishy here. I think we made a sign error somewhere. or the formula is wrong

opal ravine
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wait did I not mention thats the answer someone else said it was when I asked them?

maybe they misunderstood my question or something

crimson delta
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or maybe they did a small sign error. it's easy to mess this stuff up

opal ravine
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Cant belive you stayed with me for like

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holy shit 2 hours

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You have my gratitude

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really appriciate it

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thanks a bunch

crimson delta
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this is the one on wikipedia

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I don't find the one you have somewhere atm

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just gets messier but the idea still stays the same

opal ravine
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aight

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Im gonna close the thing in a bit

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just gotta take a few notes

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.close

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crimson sedge
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Is there an efficient way to calculate 10¹²⁴ mod 271?

crimson delta
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square-and-multiply

crimson sedge
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Sorry, I didn't get you

crimson delta
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thats the name of the algorithm

crimson sedge
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Oh

crimson delta
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10^124 = (10^62)^2

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so if you can calculate 10^62 you can easily get 10^124

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but then 10^62 = (10^31)^2

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and next 10^31 = 10*10^30

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and 10^30=(10^15)^2

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and so on

crimson sedge
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I see

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Thanks a lot!

crimson delta
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(and of course take remainder after every step)

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crimson delta
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17

gaunt hamlet
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Don't troll in help channels

sage forge
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You're not the first one to make this "joke"

upper garnet
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ahaha roasted

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high spruce
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hm yeah that doesn't make sense

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think the question is wrong

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unless you miswrote the question or something

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heavy star
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Can some one help me with this?

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heavy star
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Im working on the question below I need to convert it into interval notation but I m stuck as this point I m not sure what to do.

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its section h

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Solve the inequalities below, stating your answer in interval notation. Thats what the question is asking

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wintry wagon
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Can someone help me with linear translations

wintry wagon
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This is the question I'm getting asked "What kind of transformation converts the graph of f(x)=8x–9 into the graph of g(x)=8x–1?"

dire geode
wintry wagon
dire geode
wintry wagon
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All of it IMDEAD

dire geode
wintry wagon
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Still don't get it

dire geode
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i don't get why you don't get it

dire geode
wintry wagon
dire geode
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oh rows 3 and 4 also work

wintry wagon
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How do I know if it's left or right or up or down

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How do I know if it's a vertical or horizontal translation

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How can I tell if it's down or right, or up and left. There aren't parenthesis in the questions they're giving me.

dire geode
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there are multiple ways to translate f to get g

dire geode
wintry wagon
dire geode
wintry wagon
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How do I use the first four rows

dire geode
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try different c/d values

wintry wagon
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???

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I don't understand

wintry wagon
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How am I supposed to know if it's right (x-c) or down (x)-d

wintry wagon
dire geode
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you just try

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f(x+1)

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or f(x-1)

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calculate those

wintry wagon
dire geode
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don't know how to what? plug in variables into funcitons?

wintry wagon
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yes

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How do I know if it's right (x-c) or down (x)-d what's the difference?

dire geode
# wintry wagon How do I know if it's right (x-c) or down (x)-d what's the difference?
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mental lotus
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i need help

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mental lotus
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how do i do this

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anyone

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pls

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idk gradients

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hello

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anyone

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i am alone

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in saddness

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😦

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@lusty birch

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<@&286206848099549185>

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anyone

zenith sail
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Gradient in this sense is another word for slope. maybe you know it by that name

mental lotus
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ik

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but i don't know the way to find gradient

zenith sail
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Pick two points on the line $(x_1,y_1)$ and $(x_2,y_2)$. Then the gradient is $\frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}$

wraith daggerBOT
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tatpoj

mental lotus
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oh

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so i would pick

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the front

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and the back right

zenith sail
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Any two points will work. Pick ones that are at whole numbers, they're easier to see

mental lotus
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ok

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am I right???

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honest saddle
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what does it mean by "generated by given element"

crimson delta
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<g> or (g) or whatever your notation may be

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the smallest subgroup of G containing g

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<g> = {g^k: k in Z}

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honest saddle
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wtf

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why are there spaniards here

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solo is actually english so u can speak english

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since u guys are here can u help me with that question

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hermano pls help me

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vamanos vamanos

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a donde estas

crimson delta
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<@&268886789983436800>

celest seal
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👍

crimson delta
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One element generates a unique cyclic subgroup of G

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That subgroup is denoted by <g>

honest saddle
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how do i write it out to answer a

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i see that g^7 = 1

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@crimson delta

crimson delta
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Well you could write down every element in the subgroup

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long arrow
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plug it into the expression then simplify

raw star
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Like this?

long arrow
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yes

raw star
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Ok thanks

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crimson sedge
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Hey, really struggling breaking this down, don't need you to solve for me but just need some help :)

cosmic steppe
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Whatvtge fuckb

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Uh

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well

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The second clause

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"The first number is four more than the product of six and the second number"

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What does this mean lol

crimson sedge
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0 idea.

cosmic steppe
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That makes literally no sense

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OH

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I see

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It's worded weirdly

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a + b + c = 40
a = 6b + 4
c = 2b - 9

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The product of (6 and the second number) is 6b

deep wind
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are they all integers?

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no right

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well b isnt an integer lol

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actually it is

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i had sum as 45 but its 40

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34,5,1 lol

deep wind
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with the way the problem is worded, it is convient for u to plug them all into the first equation you get from reading it

deep wind
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then plug b into 2nd and 3rd equation

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why does putting these vectors in a matrix

crimson sedge
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and performing row operations show which vectors are linearly independent

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low holly
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I have that $|\widetilde{f}(k)|^2 = \int_{-\infty}^\infty \int_{-\infty}^\infty f(x)e^{-ikx} f^*(y) e^{iky} \,\dd x \dd y$

wraith daggerBOT
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π=√g

low holly
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Multiplied by 2pi maybe

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<@&286206848099549185> Anyone likes doing fourier transforms lol?

low holly
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Ayo i think i got it

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mighty minnow
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Could someone help me understand this?

It's from my exercise book about proof by induction.

Step1:

LHS = 1
RHS = 1

Step2:

assume 1+3+5+...+(2n-1) = n^2

Step3:

LHS = 1+3+5+...+(2n-1) + (2(n+1)-1)
    = 1+3+5+...+(2n-1) + (2n + 1)
    = n^2 + 2n + 1

RHS = (n+1)^2
    = n^2 + 2n + 1

=> Statement has been proved by induction

Could someone explain what this is saying and how?

Any help would be appreciated. I don't really understand this at all.

Thanks

sleek condor
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do you get proofs by induction in general?

mighty minnow
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Not really. I was introduced to it yesterday

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I am pretty confused honestly

sleek condor
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ima use the classic analogy of dominos for it

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lets say you want to build a row of dominos and be sure that every domino will fall

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you have to check two things:

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that you make fall the first domino of the row

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and that for each domino, making it fall will make the next one fall right?

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do you get this?

mighty minnow
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Yes makes sense

sleek condor
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so the logic is the same with induction

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if you want to prove a property for all integers

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if you manage to prove it for a starting integer

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and if you manage to prove that for any integer

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if the property holds

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then that means it also holds for the next one

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then you have proved it for all possible integers after the starting one

mighty minnow
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Alright makes sense

sleek condor
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so now it seems that your property is some formula

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P(n) = " the sum of the first n odd integers is equal to n^2"

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right?

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and we want to prove this for any n

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so lets do it by induction

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first, is it true for our starting integer?

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n=1

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the sum of the first 1 odd integer is just 1

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and 1^2 is also just 1

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this is what they meant by LHS=1 and RHS=1

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ok?

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Sure i'm folling you

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following*

sleek condor
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so now the tricky part

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we take any integer n

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and we assume our property P(n) is true

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we then want to prove P(n+1) is true

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so lets calculate the sum of the first n+1 odd integers

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its equal to 1 +3 +5 +.... + 2n-1 + 2n+1

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which is the same as the sum up to the nth odd integer (2n-1)

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2n+1

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the next one

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but since we know P(n) is true

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the sum up to the nth odd integer

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is just n^2

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so we have

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1 +3 +5 +.... + 2n-1 + 2n+1 = n^2 +2n + 1

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right?

mighty minnow
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ahhh not following

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calculate the sum of the first n+1 odd integers?

its equal to 1 +3 +5 +.... + 2n-1 + 2n+1

not sure what you mean here

sleek condor
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we want to prove P(n+1)

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what is P(n+1).?

mighty minnow
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3 ?

sleek condor
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what?

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explain yourself

mighty minnow
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the next odd integer is 3?

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sorry

sleek condor
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dont be sorry

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i just want to understand what you are thinking

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so that i can help you

mighty minnow
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Alright 🙂

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Well maybe i am wrong then

sleek condor
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P(n) recall is a property on number n

sleek condor
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as with the domino example

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we want to prove that if P(n) is true

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then P(n+1) is also true

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ok?

mighty minnow
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Sure

sleek condor
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so we assume P(n) is true

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and now we want to prove P(n+1)

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what does P(n+1) say?

mighty minnow
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Wait so does "n+1" mean the next odd number or just adding one to the current n?

mighty minnow
sleek condor
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what is P(n+1)

sleek condor
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P(n) is a property on the number n

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a statement that depends ona number n

mighty minnow
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What do you by a property on the number?

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ah okay

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wait

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so P(n+1) = (n+1)^2 ?

sleek condor
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no

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P(n+1) is not a number

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its a statement

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the statement: " the sum of the first (n+1) odd integers is equal to (n+1)^2"

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and we want to prove this statement

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given the statement P(n)

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which is " the sum of the first n odd integers is equal to n^2"

mighty minnow
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Sure okay makes sense

sleek condor
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so lets prove P(n+1)

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we need to calculate the sum of the first (n+1) odd integers

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which is 1 + 3 +... +2n -1 + 2n+1

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we can group it like this

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( 1 + 3 +... +2n -1) + 2n+1

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where whats in bracket

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is just the sum of the first n odd numbers

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and since P(n) is true

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we know thats equal

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to n^2

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is that clear?

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so 1 + 3 +... +2n -1 + 2n+1 = ( 1 + 3 +... +2n -1) + 2n+1 = n^2 +2n +1

mighty minnow
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Kind of

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I am still struggling to understand honestly

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what step seems weird?

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try to explain what you dont understand

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and why it doesnt make sense

mighty minnow
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(1+3..+2n+1) + 2n+1

I dont understand why there is the 2n+1 inside of the brackets

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I understand the sum is 4

sleek condor
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4?

mighty minnow
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but what is this 2n+1

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sum of first two odd numbers is 4? but why then add 2n+1

sleek condor
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1 + 3 +... +2n -1 + 2n+1 do you get what this notation means?

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with the .... in the middle?

mighty minnow
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Yes it means the numbers up to n, correct?

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because it can keep going

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first n = 1
second n = 3
and so on

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but after the ... i am confused

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yeah

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here is the rigorous notation on the left

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it means sum for k =1 to k=n

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of 2k-1

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like add all of them

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and the dotted notation

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is on the right

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the ....

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is representing all the terms of the sum

mighty minnow
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sure

sleek condor
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we cant write

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because there are too many of them

mighty minnow
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sure make sense

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but what about the 2n+1 ?

sleek condor
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so now we are interested

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in the sum up to n+1

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because thats what P(n+1) talks about

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and what i did is this

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the sum up to n+1

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is the sum up to n

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  • the last term
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yes makes sense

sleek condor
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and this last term simplifies

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to 2n +1

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if you expand the bracket

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now we have this

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since we assumed P(n)

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that means the sum up to n

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is equal to n^2

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is that ok?

mighty minnow
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yes okay

sleek condor
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ok so in the end we have

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which is what was said here

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do you see how those are the same thing?

mighty minnow
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yes

sleek condor
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okay so now they talk about the right hand side

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which should be (n+1)²

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but if you expand (n+1)²

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you get

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n²+2n+1

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which is exactly P(n+1)

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P(n+1) was "the sum of the first n+1 odd numbers is equal to (n+1)²"

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so now we have P(n+1) is true

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if we assume P(n) is

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so we have all we need for our proof by induction

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we just proved every domino is well set up and will indeed make the next one fall

mighty minnow
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hmmmmm

sleek condor
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what part do you find shady?

mighty minnow
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but if you expand (n+1)²
you get
n²+2n+1
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you dont know how to expand (a+b)²?

mighty minnow
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a*a + b*b ?

sleek condor
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yeah no

mighty minnow
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lmao

sleek condor
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(a+b)² = (a+b)*(a+b) right?

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thats the definition of a square

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so now can you expand this form?

mighty minnow
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which one? (n+1)^2?

sleek condor
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I'm not sure

sleek condor
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if i told you (a+b)*c

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can you expand this?

mighty minnow
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(a*c)+(b*c) ?

sleek condor
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okay

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then apply this reasoning to (a+b)*(a+b)

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just use c= (a+b)

mighty minnow
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c = (a+b)^2 ?

sleek condor
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c=(a+b)

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as i just said

mighty minnow
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im not sure what you mean

sleek condor
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I MEAN THIS

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oops caps

mighty minnow
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alright

sleek condor
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do you see what i meant by c=(a+b)

mighty minnow
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no

sleek condor
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if you replace c by a+b

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those two lines are exactly the same

sleek condor
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Ah okay

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i get you

sleek condor
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so now expand once more

mighty minnow
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ahhh not sure

sleek condor
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you should really clear this up

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math WONT be easy if you dont know how to do this kind of calculations

mighty minnow
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yeah i hear you

sleek condor
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like this is supposed to be the easy part

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i'm just going to do it all

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but be sure

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to get better at this kind of thing

mighty minnow
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okay

sleek condor
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its like learning to read

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you wont be able to study litterature without it

mighty minnow
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true i hear you

sleek condor
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okay

mighty minnow
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I guess i'm in over my head lmao

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really struggling to understand this

sleek condor
mighty minnow
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ah okay

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it makes sense

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so with a(a+b) you just multiply each term inside the brackets with a ?

sleek condor
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yeah

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its called distribution

mighty minnow
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I should know this i remember it

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anyway im following you

sleek condor
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so now

mighty minnow
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the rest of it makes sense

sleek condor
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if you take

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n=a

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and 1=b

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you get (n+1)²=n²+2*n*1 +1²

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which is n²+2n+1

mighty minnow
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I'm not sure how you did it

Can you show me the steps of how you went from

n²+2*n*1 +1²
to
n²+2n+1

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1²=1

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2*n*1=2*n =2n

mighty minnow
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sure i get that

sleek condor
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so whats the issue

mighty minnow
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nothing makes sense now

sleek condor
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its not really helpful

mighty minnow
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okay wait

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n²+(2*n*1)+1²
in the brackets is just 2n
1^2 = 1

so you get
n²+2n+1

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Sorry maybe i was unclear, i meant nothing is the issue, it makes sense now

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not nothing at all makes sense lol

sleek condor
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are you ok?

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i think you should stop doing maths for tonight maybe

mighty minnow
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brain is struggling but im okay

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lmao

sleek condor
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you seemd to understand the complicated concept

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which was induciton

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but you are struggling with the do basic calculations part

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which is not something i can really teach you

mighty minnow
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Its fine, I know I need to get better. I've been thrown in the deep end with this induction stuff, my understanding of math isn't that great for some of what is required for the course I'm taking

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I'll keep working at it don't worry

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its something quite common actually

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people comming here struggling with a "hard lesson"

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and in fact their main issue

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is that they lack fundamentals

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and often fundamentals from a few years back

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so either they got the time to fix it

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or they are kind of fcked

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like people at university

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or in college

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asking for help before exams and they cant realistically succeed not because the current lesson is too hard

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but because of what came before

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but you should be hopeful

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because you understood induction

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the hard part quickly

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just practice basic calculations more

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dont be scared to ask your teacher about your lackluster areas

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so they can give you advice on how to catch up

mighty minnow
sleek condor
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yeah but this is normal

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you can understand poetic structures, if you struggle reading words, poems will be hard to understand

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For sure. I'm doing a bachelor degree in IT. I'm fine with most of it but I took the optional math classes and most of it goes over my head. Some of it is easy but when it comes to things like induction I just feel lost. You're right though, I need to spend more time learning the fundamentals

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I feel like i've just been thrown in the deep end lol

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yeah if you are in uni this will be harder

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most likely your teacher wont be able to dedicate much time

mighty minnow
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He's a pretty decent teacher but i'm just one of many students. He replies to my 1am messages asking for help though which is good. But even when he explains it to me i still struggle lol

sleek condor
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but yeah expanding brackets and basic algebra is 7-8-9 grade stuff i would say

mighty minnow
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Damn lol guess I'm pretty far behind

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I do get it though

sleek condor
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this should feel very easy after highschool

mighty minnow
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Just been a while since i've done any math

sleek condor
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good luck

mighty minnow
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Lmao thank you

sleek condor
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this stuff just improves through practice

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but i recommend you to go through everything you should know with someone

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to identify what you need to work on

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w/e gotta sleep

mighty minnow
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Yeah sweet, all good mate. Thanks for helping

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Mind if i add you on here?

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yeah ok

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Thanks. I won't bother you too much don't worry lol

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I'm not sure how this is wrong

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c0 is not -5 with that formula

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oh

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how do I adjust iut

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Use the same eq. you found before

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3n+5

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it does not work

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and I tried 3n - 5

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Why do you put that parentheses at the end

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oh

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You need to have -5 when n=0

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I need to find the derivative of ln(xe^-2x). Where do I start?

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do you know derivative of ln f(x)?

small wave
high spruce
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yeah

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where u = xe^(-2x) here

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now just find u'

small wave
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high spruce
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well have a look

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what can youf actor out

small wave
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e^-2x?

high spruce
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ye

small wave
high spruce
small wave
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how do i simplify it further?

high spruce
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further?

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you could split it up as 1/x - 2 if you wish

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don't see the point though

small wave
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(1-2x)/x = 1/x - 2x/x

small wave
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solution for this one was 1/x - 2

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1-2x/ x is already simplified

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these correct?

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can we solve this without calculating the area using hero's formula

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use heron's formula then equate it with 1/2ab

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Yeah ik we can do that way but this is a GRE question and we don't have that formula in GRE

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So j wanted to know a method without using that formula

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i am not sure about that

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I'll wait 😅

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sure

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hey

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sullen saffron
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,w 2y'' + 3y' -2y = 0

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Your complementary function is wrong.

ashen magnet
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What's confusing?

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It should be (2m - 1)(m + 2) = 0.

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ah yes

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mb

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For (2m + 1)(m - 2) = 2m^2 -3m + 2.

ashen magnet
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that makes sense yes

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let me re attempt that with the correct values

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cheers

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Since Q(x) contains a term which is x^0 of a term in y_c(x), y_p(x) = Axe^(x/2) + (Be^(x/2)) but we need not bother with the term in brackets since it's included in y_c(x).

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@sullen saffron

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Yeah. Something like that but you need to differentiate it twice and as you can see it does get messy.

ashen magnet
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an i following along the right path ?

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I looks like it. I didn't check your calculations but you need to differentiate y_p(x) twice.

ashen magnet
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oh yes ik

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it’s rlly messy tho but i’ll give it a shot

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@sullen saffron can u double check if i’ve done the product rule correctly on the side for the second derivative?

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Use a derivative calculator.

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why is pheta 2.3 if one of them is 10

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a

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In these types of questions i should do asq-bsq right?

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Like so it becomes that in demon

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Denom

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what is asq-bsq

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Here in task 4e

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How can I tell if the graph is symetrical or mot

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I need help again

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My question just got ignored by the bot

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Damn

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Bro are you German?
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That's cool, what you be studying

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I am not able to understand your question though

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There are equations

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Automotive engineering

crimson sedge
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I need to prove if the graphs to these equations are symetrical or not

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And I struggle with 4f

livid atlas
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Hmn lemme see

crimson sedge
livid atlas
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Okk

crimson sedge
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You understand it?

livid atlas
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I haven't done these type of questions since long

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Use Wolfram alpha

crimson sedge
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???

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What's Wolfram alpha?

livid atlas
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Bro it's a website for mathematics

crimson sedge
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I'm in 10th grade : ) I don't know these super complicated things

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Ohhhhh

livid atlas
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U can do anything maths related

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Just put in the function and it will show u the graph

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Or u can use Desmos another website just for graphs

crimson sedge
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I don't find it*

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On the page

livid atlas
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Wait I'll send

crimson sedge
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I can do that on calculator

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I need to do in some crazy way stuff

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Lemme show you

livid atlas
crimson sedge
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This is the first task

livid atlas
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So we basically put in the values of x and make a table right

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That is what I remember

crimson sedge
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Huh

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I never did that

livid atlas
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Ohh idk then

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Ask in some other channel

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Which is open

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<@&286206848099549185>

floral forge
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i worked it out but im also getting the wrong answer. not sure if im doing something wrong or there is something wrong with the problem. what answer are you getting?

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@livid atlas

livid atlas
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16.66

floral forge
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well thats different from me. what i did was write $B=l\cdot y^2$ where $y$ is the width and height (as it is a square and $l$ is the length. with this then we can find that $$A=1.2l(y-x\cdot10^{-2})^2$$ as we have that the length $l$ of $A$ is $20%$ longer and the width and height are $x$ percent less than in $B$. solving this i get 9.22 which is not a solution

wraith daggerBOT
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Duh Hello

livid atlas
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Nvr mind i got it bro

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Bro see the phot i sent before of my working

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I was doing calculation mistake

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I am getting 8.71

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Which is the answer

floral forge
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i try and solve them myself to see where people go wrong. but yeah i just typoed when putting it into a calculator kekW

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so yeah i get 8.71 as well now

livid atlas
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Haha cool then

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Thanks for the help 😊

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chrome marsh
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the number of orderings of 2 3's and 10 1's is just $$\frac{12!}{2!10!}$$

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chrome marsh
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right?

umbral lotus
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well

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you have 2 3's and 10 1's that you have to order

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so in total you have 12 elements

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that would be 12! orderings

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howerver that would also included doubles

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not sure if division is the way to go for getting rid of them tho

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mortal marten
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x^2-11x-2/x^2-4

cedar kilnBOT
mortal marten
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im up to this

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cross multiplied expanded

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but have no idea what to do now

violet rapids
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show your work

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pls

turbid anvil
silk thistle
turbid anvil
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-(-3)

silk thistle
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  • (4x-2) * (-2) +8x
mortal marten
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ok lemme show my working hang on

turbid anvil
violet rapids
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guys stop being silly we need to be serious

silk thistle
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Well we are just waiting

mortal marten
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Bruh

violet rapids
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,rotate

turbid anvil
wraith daggerBOT
mortal marten
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Thanks

silk thistle
mortal marten
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what next

turbid anvil
mortal marten
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factorise it?

silk thistle
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I think you forgot -1

mortal marten
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yes forgot that

silk thistle
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To begin

mortal marten
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what to do now

turbid anvil
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And u opened the brackets wrong

silk thistle
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no here its correct i think

silk thistle
indigo berry
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-6x+5x=-11x?

silk thistle
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Add the -1

mortal marten
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so its -6x -5x

indigo berry
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oh, i didn't see that earlier

mortal marten
indigo berry
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i'd honestly include parenthesis to make it clear

silk thistle
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You didn't consider it

turbid anvil
silk thistle
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Yes mb

turbid anvil
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@mortal marten don't multiply the minus sign so fast

First open the brackets and then do it

mortal marten
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still confused

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any chance u guys could do it on paper and show? @turbid anvil @silk thistle

silk thistle
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I do it

turbid anvil
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Blue ink

mortal marten
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amd then what @turbid anvil

turbid anvil
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a hok i see

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thanks

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how to git gud @ derivatives fast?

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mystic plover
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Hmm guyz

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mystic plover
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So like

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Say you have a polynomial

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Of degree n over some finite field

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I want to know how does this inner product look like