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wait so for complex vectors its (|u+v|² - |u+iv|²)/2
and for real vectors it would be 4<u,v>
right?
what is "it"
scalar product solution?
Idk I might be confusing you beacuse Im myself pretty confused about this lmao
$\langle u+v, u+v \rangle = \norm{u}^2 + 2 Re\langle u, v\rangle + \norm{v}^2$
yes?
Denascite
yes
yeah
now what about <u+iv, u+iv> ?
no
<u+iv,u+iv> = <u,u> + <u, iv> + <iv, u> + <iv, iv>
same as before but just now with the vector iv instead of v
what next
what can we do with the terms <u,iv> and <iv, u>
i<v,u>?
yes and then next?
2i*(<u,v>+<v,u>)
thats its equal to <u,v>-<v,u>?
I mean as a general identity for complex numbers
what is (a+bi)-(a-bi)
2bi?
imaginary part of z
so now putting the pieces together, what is <u,iv>+<iv, u> ?
2i*lm(z)?
and what is z
z=<u,v>
oh wait yeah
no
which is -2i| |v| |^2
where are you getting the 2 from
$\langle iv, iv\rangle = i \overline{i} \langle v, v\rangle$. where the $i$ is from the second argument and the $\overline{i}$ is from the first. now what
Denascite
But why is it conjugate(i)
do you know the axioms for scalar products
first time I hear that
what is a scalar product
what properties does <u,v> have to fulfill to be called a scalar product/dot product/inner product
$\langle \lambda x,y\rangle = \overline\lambda \langle x,y\rangle$ and $\langle x,\lambda y \rangle = \lambda \langle x,y\rangle$
Denascite
seems familiar
here lambda=i
aight
so back to this
what is the conjugate of i?
doesnt i=sqrt(-1)
but what is the conjugate of that?
just -i
so its i-i? which is just 0
which is?
which is (-i^2)*| |v| |^2
what is i^2
1
no
yes
so its (-1)*| |v| |^2
so what is -i^2 ?
its 1
yes
so its just | |v| |^2
yes
and now lets put those things together
$\langle u+iv, u+iv \rangle = \norm{u}^2 - 2i Im \langle u, v\rangle + \norm{v}^2$
and we got this earlier
so what do we now get if we combine them
$\norm{u+v}^2-\norm{u+iv}^2 = $ ?
Denascite
wait what
combine what
oh wait nvm
yeah
whoops didnt send $\norm{u+v}^2-\norm{u+iv}^2 =?$
Denascite
this? except this is for real vectors
what we just solved was the same but for complex ones
right?
oh wait
so we get this?
and now subtract those
and we get -2iIm(<u,v>)-2Re(<u,v>)
well in the other order
and now divide by 2
why do we divide it by two?
what formula do we want to prove?
scalar product of <u,v> can be computed via norms
chat isnt loading up far enough for some reason
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Im pretty sure we dont have to divide by 2 do we?
.
but something is fishy here. I think we made a sign error somewhere. or the formula is wrong
wait did I not mention thats the answer someone else said it was when I asked them?
maybe they misunderstood my question or something
or maybe they did a small sign error. it's easy to mess this stuff up
Cant belive you stayed with me for like
holy shit 2 hours
You have my gratitude
really appriciate it
thanks a bunch
this is the one on wikipedia
I don't find the one you have somewhere atm
just gets messier but the idea still stays the same
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Is there an efficient way to calculate 10¹²⁴ mod 271?
square-and-multiply
Sorry, I didn't get you
thats the name of the algorithm
Oh
10^124 = (10^62)^2
so if you can calculate 10^62 you can easily get 10^124
but then 10^62 = (10^31)^2
and next 10^31 = 10*10^30
and 10^30=(10^15)^2
and so on
(and of course take remainder after every step)
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You're not the first one to make this "joke"
ahaha roasted
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hm yeah that doesn't make sense
think the question is wrong
unless you miswrote the question or something
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Can some one help me with this?
Im working on the question below I need to convert it into interval notation but I m stuck as this point I m not sure what to do.
its section h
Solve the inequalities below, stating your answer in interval notation. Thats what the question is asking
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Can someone help me with linear translations
This is the question I'm getting asked "What kind of transformation converts the graph of f(x)=8x–9 into the graph of g(x)=8x–1?"
??
what's confusing about the table
I don't understand it
which part
All of it 
read specifically the 1st and 2nd rows
Still don't get it
i don't get why you don't get it
maybe read the given functions here and compare it to the table
The only answers I had for this was translations 1 unit up down left and right
oh rows 3 and 4 also work
How do I know if it's left or right or up or down
How do I know if it's a vertical or horizontal translation
How can I tell if it's down or right, or up and left. There aren't parenthesis in the questions they're giving me.
there are multiple ways to translate f to get g
if you're given multiple choices, pick the one that works
I don't know to check if it works
using a combination of the first four rows
How do I use the first four rows
try different c/d values
plug in c / d = -1, 1, etc.
How am I supposed to know if it's right (x-c) or down (x)-d
How
Bro how do I try I don't know how to
don't know how to what? plug in variables into funcitons?
The graph of y=f(x)+k (where k is a real number) is the same as the graph of y=f(x) only it's shifted up (when k>0) or down (when k<0). Similarly, the graph of y=f(x-h) (where h is a real number) is the same as the graph of y=f(x) only it's shifted to the right (when h>0) or to the left (when h<0)
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i need help
how do i do this
anyone
pls
idk gradients
hello
anyone
i am alone
in saddness
😦
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anyone
Gradient in this sense is another word for slope. maybe you know it by that name
Pick two points on the line $(x_1,y_1)$ and $(x_2,y_2)$. Then the gradient is $\frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}$
tatpoj
Any two points will work. Pick ones that are at whole numbers, they're easier to see
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what does it mean by "generated by given element"
<g> or (g) or whatever your notation may be
the smallest subgroup of G containing g
<g> = {g^k: k in Z}
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so for a would there be multiple cyclic subgroups?
wtf
why are there spaniards here
solo is actually english so u can speak english
since u guys are here can u help me with that question
hermano pls help me
vamanos vamanos
a donde estas
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What do you mean with multiple cyclic subgroups
One element generates a unique cyclic subgroup of G
That subgroup is denoted by <g>
Well you could write down every element in the subgroup
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yes
Ok thanks
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Hey, really struggling breaking this down, don't need you to solve for me but just need some help :)
Whatvtge fuckb
Uh
well
The second clause
"The first number is four more than the product of six and the second number"
What does this mean lol
0 idea.
That makes literally no sense
OH
I see
It's worded weirdly
a + b + c = 40
a = 6b + 4
c = 2b - 9
The product of (6 and the second number) is 6b
are they all integers?
no right
well b isnt an integer lol
actually it is
i had sum as 45 but its 40
34,5,1 lol
u can solve it with systems of equations
with the way the problem is worded, it is convient for u to plug them all into the first equation you get from reading it
plug a and c into the first equation and solve for b
then plug b into 2nd and 3rd equation
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why does putting these vectors in a matrix
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I have that $|\widetilde{f}(k)|^2 = \int_{-\infty}^\infty \int_{-\infty}^\infty f(x)e^{-ikx} f^*(y) e^{iky} \,\dd x \dd y$
π=√g
Multiplied by 2pi maybe
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Ayo i think i got it
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Could someone help me understand this?
It's from my exercise book about proof by induction.
Step1:
LHS = 1
RHS = 1
Step2:
assume 1+3+5+...+(2n-1) = n^2
Step3:
LHS = 1+3+5+...+(2n-1) + (2(n+1)-1)
= 1+3+5+...+(2n-1) + (2n + 1)
= n^2 + 2n + 1
RHS = (n+1)^2
= n^2 + 2n + 1
=> Statement has been proved by induction
Could someone explain what this is saying and how?
Any help would be appreciated. I don't really understand this at all.
Thanks
do you get proofs by induction in general?
ima use the classic analogy of dominos for it
lets say you want to build a row of dominos and be sure that every domino will fall
you have to check two things:
that you make fall the first domino of the row
and that for each domino, making it fall will make the next one fall right?
do you get this?
Yes makes sense
so the logic is the same with induction
if you want to prove a property for all integers
if you manage to prove it for a starting integer
and if you manage to prove that for any integer
if the property holds
then that means it also holds for the next one
then you have proved it for all possible integers after the starting one
Alright makes sense
so now it seems that your property is some formula
P(n) = " the sum of the first n odd integers is equal to n^2"
right?
and we want to prove this for any n
so lets do it by induction
first, is it true for our starting integer?
n=1
the sum of the first 1 odd integer is just 1
and 1^2 is also just 1
this is what they meant by LHS=1 and RHS=1
ok?
so now the tricky part
we take any integer n
and we assume our property P(n) is true
we then want to prove P(n+1) is true
so lets calculate the sum of the first n+1 odd integers
its equal to 1 +3 +5 +.... + 2n-1 + 2n+1
which is the same as the sum up to the nth odd integer (2n-1)
2n+1
the next one
but since we know P(n) is true
the sum up to the nth odd integer
is just n^2
so we have
1 +3 +5 +.... + 2n-1 + 2n+1 = n^2 +2n + 1
right?
ahhh not following
calculate the sum of the first n+1 odd integers?
its equal to 1 +3 +5 +.... + 2n-1 + 2n+1
not sure what you mean here
3 ?
dont be sorry
i just want to understand what you are thinking
so that i can help you
P(n) recall is a property on number n
.
as with the domino example
we want to prove that if P(n) is true
then P(n+1) is also true
ok?
Sure
Wait so does "n+1" mean the next odd number or just adding one to the current n?
I'm not sure what you mean by say
what is P(n+1)
n+1 is the number that comes after n
P(n) is a property on the number n
a statement that depends ona number n
no
P(n+1) is not a number
its a statement
the statement: " the sum of the first (n+1) odd integers is equal to (n+1)^2"
and we want to prove this statement
given the statement P(n)
which is " the sum of the first n odd integers is equal to n^2"
Sure okay makes sense
so lets prove P(n+1)
we need to calculate the sum of the first (n+1) odd integers
which is 1 + 3 +... +2n -1 + 2n+1
we can group it like this
( 1 + 3 +... +2n -1) + 2n+1
where whats in bracket
is just the sum of the first n odd numbers
and since P(n) is true
we know thats equal
to n^2
is that clear?
so 1 + 3 +... +2n -1 + 2n+1 = ( 1 + 3 +... +2n -1) + 2n+1 = n^2 +2n +1
what step seems weird?
try to explain what you dont understand
and why it doesnt make sense
(1+3..+2n+1) + 2n+1
I dont understand why there is the 2n+1 inside of the brackets
I understand the sum is 4
4?
1 + 3 +... +2n -1 + 2n+1 do you get what this notation means?
with the .... in the middle?
Yes it means the numbers up to n, correct?
because it can keep going
first n = 1
second n = 3
and so on
but after the ... i am confused
yeah
here is the rigorous notation on the left
it means sum for k =1 to k=n
of 2k-1
like add all of them
and the dotted notation
is on the right
the ....
is representing all the terms of the sum
sure
so now we are interested
in the sum up to n+1
because thats what P(n+1) talks about
and what i did is this
the sum up to n+1
is the sum up to n
- the last term
yes makes sense
and this last term simplifies
to 2n +1
if you expand the bracket
now we have this
since we assumed P(n)
that means the sum up to n
is equal to n^2
is that ok?
yes okay
ok so in the end we have
which is what was said here
do you see how those are the same thing?
yes
okay so now they talk about the right hand side
which should be (n+1)²
but if you expand (n+1)²
you get
n²+2n+1
so
which is exactly P(n+1)
P(n+1) was "the sum of the first n+1 odd numbers is equal to (n+1)²"
so now we have P(n+1) is true
if we assume P(n) is
so we have all we need for our proof by induction
we just proved every domino is well set up and will indeed make the next one fall
hmmmmm
what part do you find shady?
but if you expand (n+1)²
you get
n²+2n+1
you dont know how to expand (a+b)²?
a*a + b*b ?
yeah no
lmao
(a+b)² = (a+b)*(a+b) right?
thats the definition of a square
so now can you expand this form?
which one? (n+1)^2?
the RHS of this
I'm not sure
(a*c)+(b*c) ?
c = (a+b)^2 ?
im not sure what you mean
alright
no
.
ahhh not sure
you should really clear this up
math WONT be easy if you dont know how to do this kind of calculations
yeah i hear you
like this is supposed to be the easy part
i'm just going to do it all
but be sure
to get better at this kind of thing
okay
true i hear you
okay
ah okay
it makes sense
so with a(a+b) you just multiply each term inside the brackets with a ?
so now
the rest of it makes sense
I'm not sure how you did it
Can you show me the steps of how you went from
n²+2*n*1 +1²
to
n²+2n+1
sure i get that
so whats the issue
nothing makes sense now
its not really helpful
okay wait
n²+(2*n*1)+1²
in the brackets is just 2n
1^2 = 1
so you get
n²+2n+1
Sorry maybe i was unclear, i meant nothing is the issue, it makes sense now
not nothing at all makes sense lol
you seemd to understand the complicated concept
which was induciton
but you are struggling with the do basic calculations part
which is not something i can really teach you
Its fine, I know I need to get better. I've been thrown in the deep end with this induction stuff, my understanding of math isn't that great for some of what is required for the course I'm taking
I'll keep working at it don't worry
its something quite common actually
people comming here struggling with a "hard lesson"
and in fact their main issue
is that they lack fundamentals
and often fundamentals from a few years back
so either they got the time to fix it
or they are kind of fcked
like people at university
or in college
asking for help before exams and they cant realistically succeed not because the current lesson is too hard
but because of what came before
but you should be hopeful
because you understood induction
the hard part quickly
just practice basic calculations more
dont be scared to ask your teacher about your lackluster areas
so they can give you advice on how to catch up
I don't really feel like I understand it. I get the general concept, but when I'm doing these exercises I'm not really sure what I'm doing
yeah but this is normal
you can understand poetic structures, if you struggle reading words, poems will be hard to understand
For sure. I'm doing a bachelor degree in IT. I'm fine with most of it but I took the optional math classes and most of it goes over my head. Some of it is easy but when it comes to things like induction I just feel lost. You're right though, I need to spend more time learning the fundamentals
I feel like i've just been thrown in the deep end lol
yeah if you are in uni this will be harder
most likely your teacher wont be able to dedicate much time
He's a pretty decent teacher but i'm just one of many students. He replies to my 1am messages asking for help though which is good. But even when he explains it to me i still struggle lol
but yeah expanding brackets and basic algebra is 7-8-9 grade stuff i would say
this should feel very easy after highschool
Just been a while since i've done any math
good luck
Lmao thank you
this stuff just improves through practice
but i recommend you to go through everything you should know with someone
to identify what you need to work on
w/e gotta sleep
yeah ok
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I'm not sure how this is wrong
c0 is not -5 with that formula
Use the same eq. you found before
3n+5
Mutiply by (-1)^something such that it's -1 when n=0
There are many possible answers
Why do you put that parentheses at the end
You should have (-1)
Also (-1)⁰ = 1
not -1
oh
You need to have -5 when n=0
I did n + 1
I'm stupid
didn't realize -1^0 was = 1
that was my mistake
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I need to find the derivative of ln(xe^-2x). Where do I start?
do you know derivative of ln f(x)?
u'/u?
so e^(-2x) -2xe^(-2x) / xe^(-2x) ?
yep looks good
ok, how do i simplify from here?
e^-2x?
ye
is 1-2x/x correct?
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how do i simplify it further?
could you explain how we would do that?
(1-2x)/x = 1/x - 2x/x
solution for this one was 1/x - 2
you just split up the fractoin
i got points taken from my last exam cause i didn't simplify
alright, tysm
np
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these correct?
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can we solve this without calculating the area using hero's formula
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use heron's formula then equate it with 1/2ab
Yeah ik we can do that way but this is a GRE question and we don't have that formula in GRE
So j wanted to know a method without using that formula
i am not sure about that
sure
Thanks for the help anyways 😃
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hey
what do i slot in for my particular solution?
,w 2y'' + 3y' -2y = 0
Your complementary function is wrong.
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For (2m + 1)(m - 2) = 2m^2 -3m + 2.
Since Q(x) contains a term which is x^0 of a term in y_c(x), y_p(x) = Axe^(x/2) + (Be^(x/2)) but we need not bother with the term in brackets since it's included in y_c(x).
Yeah. Something like that but you need to differentiate it twice and as you can see it does get messy.
an i following along the right path ?
true yeah
I looks like it. I didn't check your calculations but you need to differentiate y_p(x) twice.
oh yes ik
it’s rlly messy tho but i’ll give it a shot
@sullen saffron can u double check if i’ve done the product rule correctly on the side for the second derivative?
ah, thanks!
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why is pheta 2.3 if one of them is 10
what did i do wrong
for these values
i probably drew the triangle incorrect
if so can someone draw it correectly
i have to find the time it takes, to go from 1 point to another (as in picture) with the following bearings (PER being the bottom left one and PBO being top right one)
regarding wind speed of 15, distance of 987 and plane speed of 300
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im going to sleep very late but PLEASE, if anyone can do this question fully, or draw a traingle graph that is correct, or tell me why its wrong @ reply to me so i come back
otherwise im gone
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In these types of questions i should do asq-bsq right?
Like so it becomes that in demon
Denom
what is asq-bsq
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Here in task 4e
How can I tell if the graph is symetrical or mot
Nvm theres an example lol sorry for bothering
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Okay so
I have f(x) = 5/x⁴ + x²
And I need to tell if it's symetrical
And I have no clue how
The example shows something with negating and stuff but I'm stuck
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I worked out like this but i am getting wrong answer
What the
My question just got ignored by the bot
Damn
Bro are you German?
Ich komme nach Deutschland nächstes Jahr für meine master's
Yeah
That's cool, what you be studying
I am not able to understand your question though
So
There are equations
Automotive engineering
I need to prove if the graphs to these equations are symetrical or not
And I struggle with 4f
Hmn lemme see
here
Okk
You understand it?
Bro it's a website for mathematics
U can do anything maths related
Just put in the function and it will show u the graph
Or u can use Desmos another website just for graphs
Ohh nvr mind
Wait I'll send
No I can't visualize it
I can do that on calculator
I need to do in some crazy way stuff
Lemme show you
This is the first task
So we basically put in the values of x and make a table right
That is what I remember
i worked it out but im also getting the wrong answer. not sure if im doing something wrong or there is something wrong with the problem. what answer are you getting?
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16.66
well thats different from me. what i did was write $B=l\cdot y^2$ where $y$ is the width and height (as it is a square and $l$ is the length. with this then we can find that $$A=1.2l(y-x\cdot10^{-2})^2$$ as we have that the length $l$ of $A$ is $20%$ longer and the width and height are $x$ percent less than in $B$. solving this i get 9.22 which is not a solution
Duh Hello
Nvr mind i got it bro
Bro see the phot i sent before of my working
I was doing calculation mistake
I am getting 8.71
Which is the answer
i try and solve them myself to see where people go wrong. but yeah i just typoed when putting it into a calculator 
so yeah i get 8.71 as well now
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the number of orderings of 2 3's and 10 1's is just $$\frac{12!}{2!10!}$$
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right?
well
you have 2 3's and 10 1's that you have to order
so in total you have 12 elements
that would be 12! orderings
howerver that would also included doubles
not sure if division is the way to go for getting rid of them tho
That's correct
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x^2-11x-2/x^2-4
+1
+2
-(-3)
- (4x-2) * (-2) +8x
ok lemme show my working hang on
e^(-ln(1/5))
guys stop being silly we need to be serious
Well we are just waiting
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+1
Thanks
Lol
what next
Do u know how to split the middle term ?
factorise it?
I think you forgot -1
yes forgot that
To begin
what to do now
And u opened the brackets wrong
no here its correct i think
Just do that bro and you'll be good
-6x+5x=-11x?
Add the -1
oh, i didn't see that earlier
wdym idk how to tbh
i'd honestly include parenthesis to make it clear
I agree
5x is wrong i think
Yes mb
@mortal marten don't multiply the minus sign so fast
First open the brackets and then do it
still confused
any chance u guys could do it on paper and show? @turbid anvil @silk thistle
I do it
amd then what @turbid anvil
Solve the equation which i have written
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how to git gud @ derivatives fast?
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Hmm guyz