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dry oak
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Is there a faster way to solve this? I think that I'm doing something wrong because it is taking me too long, and I feel it should be a lot easier

shut thorn
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I would simplify the equation (in this case just by dividing by 2 on both sides) and then just plug in each pair of values to see what satisfies the inequality

dry oak
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so it would be 2y ≤ 4?

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and then?

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warm shaleBOT
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elgene

shut thorn
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And so it is a solution

dry oak
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Okay!

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Thankss

shut thorn
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No problem, good luck!

dry oak
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jaunty stirrup
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hi

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jaunty stirrup
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i need help

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when i distribute 6 with x^-2, i know how to distribute 6 with x but what do i do with the ^-2?

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bc 6*x= 6x, but then what do i do with the leftover ^-2

void pelican
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$6\cdot x^{-2}=6x^{-2}$

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jaunty stirrup
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oh

void pelican
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you just bring the -2 along

jaunty stirrup
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oh

void pelican
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it is part of the x

jaunty stirrup
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ok thanks

void pelican
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np

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twin kayak
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wooden cipher
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correct

twin kayak
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i get why d/dx{e^x} is e^x

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but why is x ^x/lnx also e^x

wooden cipher
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thats the definition of e^x

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oh im not reading

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e^lnx=x, you get that part right?

twin kayak
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yes

twin kayak
wooden cipher
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at the start of row 2, you use exponent laws which say you muliply the exponents together

twin kayak
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yes

wooden cipher
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the lnx/lnx simplifies to 1

twin kayak
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yes

wooden cipher
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so (x*lnx)/lnx simplifies to just x

twin kayak
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oh now i understand

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thx garlic bread

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wooden cipher
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ok i still need help with markov chains

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wooden cipher
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lemme go grab a problem rq

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I have this matrix

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@brave bramble are you available right now?

brave bramble
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Heyo. Was watching, haha

wooden cipher
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:D

brave bramble
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Weird

wooden cipher
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i managed to get the same help channel lol

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stuffs buried tho

brave bramble
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So let's put that 1 back in the bottom corner

wooden cipher
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oh right

brave bramble
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And recall that taking the nth power of this matrix gives us the probability of getting two heads in a row in any of n flips

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,w matrix {{0,1/2,1/2},{1/2,1/2,0},{0,0,1}}^10

wooden cipher
brave bramble
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So doing it within 10 flips happens with a probability 880/1024

wooden cipher
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oh ok

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so we just need to sum (Phw) times n where n is the number of flips for EV?

brave bramble
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Phw? EV?

wooden cipher
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expected value

brave bramble
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Anyway, taking powers of matricies is hard. We can instead diagonalize the matrix to do this quickly

wooden cipher
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Phw is the entry in the matrix of row R col W

brave bramble
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,w diagonalize matrix {{0,1/2,1/2},{1/2,1/2,0},{0,0,1}}

brave bramble
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So I thought it was interesting that you mentioned phi, because there it is

wooden cipher
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i didnt mention phi lol

brave bramble
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And if I do the matrix multiplication I need to pull this specific number out...

wooden cipher
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when i raise a diagonalized matrix to a power, i only raise the inside (J) right?

brave bramble
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Exactly. That makes this much easier to take powers of

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The hope is to get a closed form for the probability

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And with that, we have a pdf, and an expected value

wooden cipher
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oh

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i did not expect that

brave bramble
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Maybe there's an easier way to do this? Would you have expected the question gets so complicated? Lol

wooden cipher
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no

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i was just expecting "use the markov chain to set up this equation and boom"

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im starting with a simple problem but i have weather ones for later

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should we do one about weather?

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maybe it lends itself to a solution better

brave bramble
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I'm reading a bit on this

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But yeah, go ahead

wooden cipher
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oh god nvm the questions i have are absurd

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Look at them lol

brave bramble
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XD

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I wish I was better at this stuff. Let me read up a bit and see if I can learn

wooden cipher
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we can learn this together lol

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we can start with a simpler problem, i can make one rq

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A particle can either spin CW or CCW.
Every minute, the particle may change spin.
When spinning CW, it has a 2/5 chance of changing spin.
When spinning CCW, it has a 3/8 chance of changing its spin.

A scientists just observed the particle to spin CW. After 10 minutes, what is the probability it still spins CW?

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@brave bramble imma do some research again, closing this for now

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So, i'm given 2 lists a and b, such that x = b-a for each element (that is, if a=[1,2] and b=[3,4], then x=[2,2]=[(3-1),(4-2)].
I aim to use x to determine how similar the two lists are.
In application, a and b both represent the fast fourier transforms of two wav files, so essentially x is the difference between their ffts and will be used to check programmitcally how similar the two songs are.
Unfortunately, x is primarily comprised of complex numbers. So, I was wondering if taking a modified mean standard error would work for this. I was thinking of basically finding the squared magnitude for each element in x, then just averaging those. My question is, bascially, would this work? Or maybe there's a better way of doing this? Thank!

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obsidian isle
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can you consider the component wise error?

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or does that ruin the relation somehow

charred plume
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Not sure exactly what's required in your case (i.e. what properties are required for your notion of 'similarity') but taking the average of the squared magnitudes of the components of x is one good option. You might also play with taking the square root of that average -- that tends to get used more often as a notion of length / distance for lists/vectors of complex numbers. Again, depends on how this 'similarity' is expected to behave. Also, a minor point, but if the number of components in x never changes, there's not much point in dividing by that number (i.e. taking the average).

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wanton dagger
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I know what mean is, it’s just that I’m having difficulties interpreting it from this graph which is avoiding me from finding it

royal basin
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what do you mean by "interpreting"?

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also i think you meant preventing and not avoiding...

wanton dagger
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Yeah

royal basin
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you're not supposed to simply guess the mean by looking at the graph here

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also, what do you want the mean of? quiz 1 scores? quiz 2 scores? everything?

wanton dagger
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For quiz 1

royal basin
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right

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then you should not have cropped out the words "quiz 1" when posting the question

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so in that case

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you know the frequency of each quiz 1 score

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so take the weighted average of the scores with those frequencies as weights...

wanton dagger
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What do I divide by?

royal basin
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do you know how to find a weighted average?

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if you do then you should know what to divide by.

wanton dagger
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Is it dividing by the total scores, so in this case 10?

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Ok thanks

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sweet socket
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Can anyone tell me if this exercise is correct?

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I've been trying to do it for hours

lean sigil
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In the third matrix, on the third row

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Shouldn't it be a +1

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on the middle

cursive jolt
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Also I don't know if it's like a standard notation but I find strange the way the + and - are written

lean sigil
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Like here

cursive jolt
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Like they should be before the number, not right after the preceding number

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And there are no + and - on the first row

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Like
+1 -1 +4
+0 +3 -2
+0 +1 -1
(Sorry if it's a matrix from a wrong calculation, it was just for the example)

sweet socket
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ye i mean
1-1+4=-13
0+3-2=19
0-1-1=7

lean sigil
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No, it should be:
1-1+4=-13
0+3-2=19
0**+**1-1=7

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instead of what you wrote

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because you are multiplying the first row's middle term (which is already negative) by minus one

sweet socket
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alr im gonna change that right now
but the answers seems right?

lean sigil
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You can do the exact same thing with the plus instead of the minus and it should be good

sweet socket
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alr ! tysm

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muted bear
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so i said that c is the hypotenuse because its the largest

muted bear
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but i dont know how i could go about proving that

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i tried saying that c^2 is a^2+b^2 and playing with it but it didnt amount to much

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maybe i should do something with the right side?

royal basin
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a^6 + b^6 = (a^2+b^2)(a^4 - a^2b^2 + b^4)

muted bear
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how do i get rid of that 3\

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ive thought of getting somehow (a+b)^3 so i can have a 3 in there

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to eliminate the one down there

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but i dont think thatd work

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i would like going left to right but idk how that would work

timid silo
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3a²b²c²=c⁶-a⁶-b⁶
A=a² B=b² C=c²
3ABC=C³-A³-B³
A+B=C
3AB(A+B)=(A³+3A²B+3AB²+B³)-A³-B³
3A²B+3AB²=3A²B+3AB²

muted bear
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how did you get this? 3a²b²c²=c⁶-a⁶-b⁶

timid silo
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multiply 3

muted bear
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well doesnt that kind of start with the conclusion?

timid silo
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the last line proves it imo

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if the equation provided is always true then its true

timid silo
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u just have to prove if the equation is always true

muted bear
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allright

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yeah that makes sense

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thanks

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finally done with this one

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lol

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royal basin
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try to count the complement of that

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ie the election results in which they have the same major

obtuse pebbleBOT
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@slow timber Has your question been resolved?

royal basin
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are you familiar with the concept of subtractive counting

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or complementary counting

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to give a vivid example:

if you have a room with a bunch of ppl in it and you want to count how many of them are wearing red shirts, it is sometimes easier to count the total number of ppl in the room and then subtract the number of ppl NOT in red shirts.

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right

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well

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you are asked to count the election results in which the prez and vp have different majors

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what does it mean for that not to be the case?

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before you calculate that, state WHAT you would be calculating.

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you would be calculating the number of election results in which _______

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FORGET ABOUT MULTIPLICATION

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i'm trying to walk you through the LOGIC

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you are asked to count the election results in which the prez and vp have different majors

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even if you understood it you were unable to articulate it clearly so forgive me for being somewhat doubtful.

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so, we now set out to calculate the number of results in which prez and vp have the same major.

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can you LIST the majors held by our pool of candidates?

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do nothing else until i tell you to.

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just write out a LIST of the majors that we have here to work with.

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they have names...

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math, CS and education

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M, C and E then if you insist

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but i think there is value in talking shit through.

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so

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if prez and vp have the same major,

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then they are either both math majors, or both CS majors, or both education majors. these possibilities do not overlap and there are no others.

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do you understand this? Y/N

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okay

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now

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how many math majors do we have?

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NO

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did i not tell you to not do anything other than what i instruct you to?

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don't jump ahead.

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answer the questions i ask

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not the questions in your brain

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i am trying to walk you through this shit step by step in a way that ensures you understand what the fuck is going on.

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okay great you gave the numbers for all majors

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now

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how many ways are there to elect a prez and a vp who are both math majors?

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yes

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how many ways are there to elect a prez and vp who are both CS majors?

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yes

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that is what we have been doing all along

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i am glad you came to this conclusion

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find the number of ways to pick one of each major and the number of ways to assign majors to offices (3!)

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this would be multiplication if anything lmao

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The distance between the centers of two circles of radii 10 and 17 is 9. A triangle with sides 10,17,and 9, passes through which three points?

  1. The center of the large circle, the center of the small circle, and the point collinear with these two on the large circle.
  2. The points on the external tangent to these two circles, and the big circle's center
  3. The center of the large circle, the center of the small circle, and a point common to both circles
  4. The two intersection points of the two circles, and the center of the big circle
high lily
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have you drawn a diagram

limber eagle
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I know a 17,10,9 triangle looks like this:

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just without the green lines

high lily
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where are the circles

charred remnant
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does it said the circle intersect each other?

limber eagle
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yeah

charred remnant
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Nice

limber eagle
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it probably has to, or else the distance won't be long enough

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cause the radii for the bigger circle is 17, and the radii for the smaller circle is 10, which is both bigger than 9, so they need to intersect in order for their disdtance between their center to be 9

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is that right?

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feral sedge
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@timid silo Let's do it step by step.

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First of all, what can you deduce for h'(4)=16?

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wide orchid
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hello guys

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wide orchid
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can someone please help me in probability

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a bag contains 5 white balls and 6 black balls, if 3 balls are drawn at random without replacement , find the probability that 2 of them are black

wide orchid
steep harness
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this is a fun one. it's really hard to find the probability directly, but we can find it indirectly. what would the probability be that none of them are black?

wide orchid
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5/11 x 4/10 x 3/9 ??

wide orchid
steep harness
wide orchid
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2/33

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@steep harness

steep harness
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alright, so what would be the probability of drawing 3 balls out of the bag?

steep harness
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we're pulling three balls out of a bag, right? what's the probability that we'll pull three balls out?

wide orchid
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1

wide orchid
steep harness
wide orchid
wide orchid
wide orchid
steep harness
# wide orchid now that's where i am confused

alright, if we took all possible combinations, and got rid of every combination that had no black balls, what would be left? only combinations with at least one black ball, right?

wide orchid
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

steep harness
wide orchid
steep harness
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let's check it another way, as well: what would be the probability of pulling all black balls? (without replacement)

wide orchid
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i am confused
lets put all the info we got till now again
P(no black balls / only white balls all three) = 2/33
P(we will draw 3 balls) = 1

steep harness
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gotta double check the numbers themselves real quick

steep harness
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alright, now then, do we want 3 black in our answer?

wide orchid
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no

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we need 2 black and 1 non-black(white)

steep harness
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ok, so let's take (all black) away from (draw 3 balls)

wide orchid
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1-(4/33)

steep harness
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is that the same as (all white)?

wide orchid
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yeah

steep harness
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what is the probability of (all white)?

wide orchid
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29/33

steep harness
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calculate it directly

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we did it earlier

wide orchid
steep harness
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(you were right with 4/33)

wide orchid
steep harness
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the probability of 3 white balls is (first white)x(second white)x(third white) right? that's 5/11x4/10x3/9

wide orchid
steep harness
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so why doesn't (all possible combos)-(all black)=(all white)?

wide orchid
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oh no

steep harness
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no, it shouldn't

wide orchid
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yeah, it shouldn't

steep harness
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because where would (two white) fit in?

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still has to fit in (all combos)

wide orchid
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yeah, makes sense

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it shouldn't

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but if it shouldn't , it makes things even more complex for me

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Well, what are all possible combinations? (All black)+(2 black)+(1 black)+(all white)

wide orchid
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yeah

steep harness
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So we can take away (all black) and (all white), right? What would that leave us with?

wide orchid
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(2 black) and (1 black)

steep harness
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Seems to make this simpler, doesn't it? Now we need to find 1 black to take away, which is a little trouble, but not as bad

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So, how many orders can we get 1 black ball and 2 white balls?

wide orchid
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2 combos

steep harness
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A few more than that

wide orchid
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😵‍💫

steep harness
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Bww
Wbw
Wwb

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So can we calculate the probabilities of each of these?

wide orchid
steep harness
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yeah it does apparently

steep harness
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Can you calculate each of those individually?

wide orchid
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oh okay

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1/3

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1/3

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and 1/3

steep harness
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Really? They all come out to 1/3?

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I haven't done it myself XD

wide orchid
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subsection

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bruh i am kinda dumb

steep harness
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That's ok, that's why we're double checking. Being smart is just being dumb but faster

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So what's the specific probability of getting wwb?

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Here's our end goal:
(2 black)=(all combos)-(none black)-(all black)-(1 black)

And we need (1 black)=(bww)+(wbw)+(wwb)

wide orchid
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5/11(white) x 4/10(white) x 6/9(black) = 4/33

steep harness
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Alright, can you work out the other two combos?

wide orchid
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yeah,

wide orchid
steep harness
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It's not all of them though

wide orchid
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all black would be 6/11 x 5/10 x 4/9 = 4/33 again

steep harness
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Oh, wait, I might be extremely dumb

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Multiplication of fractions is freely commutative across numerators. You're right

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We do still have to care about the fact that there's 3 unique orders though

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So it's just 3(wwb)

wide orchid
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we have to find (wbb) cause 2 black

steep harness
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Sure, but we can do that as (all)-(all black)-(3(wwb))-(all white)

Alternatively, it should be 3(bbw)

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I'm giving two methods just to make sure they agree so we're not wrong

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okay i will

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$$(a \sqrt{a}+b \sqrt{b})^2 = a^3+b^3+2ab \sqrt{ab}$$

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秋水

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okee wait a min

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$$a^3+b^3 = (a+b)^3-3ab(a+b)$$

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秋水

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anyone?

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anyone knows how to solve this limit with taylor polynomials?

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wouldnt you use lhopitals?

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They're both possible for this problem

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Taylor and l'hopital that is

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Isn't the highest power an x^4?

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you can use lhoptials multiple times if you get another 0/0

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I did

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Two times and you still get a 2/0

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ah

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So why is a second order Taylor polynomial sufficient?

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Is D a polynomial?

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Yes

neon falcon
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of this be 1/7?

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Why do you think its 1/7?

neon falcon
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1/7*xy

warm canopy
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Sure but what's the definition of degree?

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Also what's the full question, not a very well defined question as is

warm canopy
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Eh they should really say which letter they are considering to be a variable

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Luckily in this particular one it's all the same

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Let's say x is the variable

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What's the definition of degree

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the degree of a polynomial basically means the maximum power of a base in the given polynomial

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Yea it's 2

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yea

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i figured it out

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Hi.
q(x) = 2(x-i)(x+i)(x-4i)(x+2)
I want to write the zeroes of q(x) in exponential form. i and -i I've got, but how do I get the other two?

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they are 4i and -2

chilly cliff
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I would just say x=4i equals to e^(4pi/2) being a full circle

royal basin
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no

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4i in exponential form is 4e^(i*pi/2)

chilly cliff
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how can I derive that?

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same as you would do for writing any number in exponential form

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modulus * e^(i*argument)

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combien de maniere on peut mettre k ballons dans n sachet tel que le sachets ne peut prend pas plus de s ballons

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Help plz

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ya i got u

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what is the question

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yo hablo un poco de espanol

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tu hables?

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tu es frances?

maiden radish
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Oui

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Fancais

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How many ways we can put k baloons in n bags such that the bag can not take more then s baloon

hearty basin
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4

maiden radish
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No i want a function

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Like n!\k!s!

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Something like that

hearty basin
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oh

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ok

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n!\2!4!

vagrant pebble
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s = k > n

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?

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can u send the question

hearty basin
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vivi?

maiden radish
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The question is how many ways to put k balls in n bags

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K<sn

hearty basin
maiden radish
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No

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so to translate

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what he is asking is

maiden radish
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We havn't any number of balls or of bags

timid silo
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How many ways can we put x balls in n packets such that the number of packets is never bigger than s balls

maiden radish
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No

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tu peux juste montrer le question original

maiden radish
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The number of balls is x and the packet can't take more then s balls and we don't know if x is biggef or smaller then s

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There no original quetion it is just a problem from my teacher

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Do find a answer

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Anyone can help me? What do I'm doing wrong?

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where did you get that first formula from

stuck zinc
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I found in a site. It's in portuguese.

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seems to be correct.

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But apparently there's something wrong with my calculations.

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right hand side, you squared each term in the sum

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but it's the entire sum that is squared not each individual term

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so you first do $\sum_{i=1}^{n} X_{i}$ and then square the result

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texaspb

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huh

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weird

stuck zinc
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are you sure that this formula is correct

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I mean have you tried to derive it yourself

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I tried here, and the result was the same.

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but maybe i had been influenced...

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3x-5y>6 graph the inequality

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I understand I have to find y so I added 5y 3x>6+5y that’s where I’m stuck

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Do I divide by 3 or 5 or am I completely wrong

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Wait no so would it be 3/5x>6/5?

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So you're trying to solve for y right

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if you have 3x > 6 + 5y, how do you get the y by itself?

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@slim cove I would subtract the 5y

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well that doesn't work because then you get 3x-5y > 6 which is what you started with

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you need the y by itself

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Then divide 3x I think

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think about the 6 + 5y side

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what do you do to undo the "6 +" part

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one definition of congruent shapes is that: Two figures are congruent if and only if there exists a series of rigid transformations which will map one figure onto the other. are there other definitions of congruency that are used?

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That seems like a good definition for congruent shapes

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are densities always measurable maps?

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How could I find the amplitude of this graph?

wanton dagger
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Would the amplitude be approx 26 as it’s the height of the graph?

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No

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Amplitude is the distance from the center to a peak/troph, aka, half the distance from peak to troph

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Oh

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So the centre is approx July and the peak is 26 meaning I minus those?

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No, by center, I mean on the y axis

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Midway between the peak and troph

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Oh

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So then what would I minus ?

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Like I said

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Peak - troph

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/2

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dumb question but when using descartes rule if i had 1 possible positive zero, do I need to also put 0 possible positive zero or does the -2 only apply for when the number of possible pos/neg is greater than or equal to 2

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I'm really confused how to do this question please help <@&286206848099549185>

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!15m

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oh srry ah forgot

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ok why is everyone getting help before me when I posted before

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because this is not math?

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then why am I doing it in maths

proven zephyr
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wait what

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oh

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ok so

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tbh idk i failed to decipher it

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spent like 2 minutes

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oh

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gosh this is annoying

snow solstice
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ill try

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rail fence is the zig zag one right

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here read this there is a really good example

snow solstice
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true

frozen kindle
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then where are you facing problems

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ive been trying

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it probably has something to do with like first or finish

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<@&286206848099549185> ?

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k thx

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wikipedia says pad the text to 2(n-1) where n = 3

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so pad to 20, then L = 20, K = 5

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"icehi tedoderoed tfsn_"

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dang

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i got teodore

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im thinking that it should be theodore but the h is behind the t

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i don't get it

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there's not much to trial and error even

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19 letters will break up into 5,9,5

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so it's unambiguously "ITDE CDTOED FEHR SOIEN"

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which is gibberish

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oh, maybe i'm supposed to go bottom-up

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not that

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it has to be gibberish

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like wtffff

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5 rail, "I hoesd dictet n freedo"

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it's unpossible angerysad

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Ur like the only one

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Anyway the answer was like “I decoded the first one” or something

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"decoded"

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Autocorrect

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that word is not funny

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What

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if sin theta times cos theta= sin 2theta
then sin 120 can be represented as sin2(60)
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but sin60xcos60= root three/4

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and sin 120 is jus root three/2

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anyone know how to do this

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yeah

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they dont have annwers

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Will it tell you if you got it right?

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yeah

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Ok

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but i wanna know the explanation

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Why did you check the first two and not the last one?

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uh its random

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no reasoning

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Can you read the first option?

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A?

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yeah

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(x,y,z) element of R3 : 4x+9y+7z=0

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What does : mean

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not sure

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It means "such that"

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What is R^3

stiff cosmos
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the vector space

limber quartz
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Alright and what is P_3

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polynomial w degree 3

limber quartz
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Ok. Just to make sure its clear, it's the set of all polynomials of degree 3

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thanks

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And R^3 is the set of all 3d real number vectors

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So each of these questions is just asking if the definitions provided guarantee that these vector (or polynomial) subsets are subsets of R^3 and P_3, respectively

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And tbh, assuming there isn't a contradiction in the definitions they are providing, the very first thing each line says is that the set we are considering is a subset of R^3 or P_3

stiff cosmos
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yea

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how do i apply the axioms

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addition and multiplication ones

limber quartz
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Ah.

stiff cosmos
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yea

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C is the only option

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that doesnt fulfill both axioms

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but idk how

limber quartz
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Alright, let's start with A

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Oh, ok

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3 axioms

stiff cosmos
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yeah lets begin with A]

limber quartz
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Ok, well the zero vector is clearly in both subsets A and B

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If we have a vector satisfying A or B, and scaled it up by an arbitrary scalar s, we could factor s out of each equation, and dividing it through by s would yield the original solution. Thus, if <a,b,c> in A or B, then s*<a,b,c> is also in A or B

stiff cosmos
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Makes sense.

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Now what about addition

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<a,b,c> + s*<a,b,c>

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is still within the subset

limber quartz
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I think you would just add both equations with the separate vector solutions plugged in and factor out the coefficients

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Let u=<a,b,c> and v=<d,e,f> be solution vectors. Then

4a+9b+7c=0,
4d+9e+7f=0, so then
4(a+d) + 9(b+e)+7(c+f)=0

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That is

stiff cosmos
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yeah got it

limber quartz
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[4,9,7]*(u + v) = 0

stiff cosmos
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still within the set

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Would a violation example of the 3rd Set be something like, (-x^3+ax^2+bx+c)+(x^3+ax^2+bx+c) = 2ax^+2bc+c

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Thus violating the addition rule, because now it's not within the set

limber quartz
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Problem there is that the leading coefficient isn't variable

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I mena that sounds funny

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But look at it

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Its often useful for analysis to divide out the leading coef anyway

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But I think they did it on purpose here

stiff cosmos
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oh right

limber quartz
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Maybe it's the analog to the zero vector for this

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Like we can't make it spit out a function whose constant value is 0?

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I'm not sure suddenly if that's what it is

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We can't do axiom 2

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Either

stiff cosmos
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Why is that

limber quartz
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Because we can't factor out the scalar multiple completely

stiff cosmos
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makes sense

limber quartz
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See if its just C that fails

stiff cosmos
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yep

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it's only C

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How would you do this one?

limber quartz
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Its practically the same problem, you tell me how to do it

stiff cosmos
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First one I'd use your method

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It satisfied 0 vector

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And then -2(a)+7b-4c=0
-2z+7x-4y=0
-2(a+z)+7(b+x)-4(y+c) = 0
this fulfills the 2nd axiom

limber quartz
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Third

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Doesn't matter tho

stiff cosmos
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3rd axiom is always fulfilled because if you times the equation by a scalar, A, It will always be in the set

A(-2z+7x-4y)=0

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Because it is in R3

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Set of all vectors in 3rd Dimension

limber quartz
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Good

stiff cosmos
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Now for the second one

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0th vector exists for (x,y,z) and 3x-6y+2z=8

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Actually no, im not sure it exists for 3x-6y+2z=8

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I dont think it does because inputting (0,0,0) it does not yield a zero, RHS is 8

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So this violates the 1st axiom I think so.

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Is this correct?

stiff cosmos
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lol

stiff cosmos
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Now for the 3rd one

limber quartz
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I was looking for Farnsworth

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Saying "We'll have to use...MATH!"

stiff cosmos
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p(-1)=p(6)=4

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I'm not sure how to test the first axiom, the zeroth vector.

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How would I go about it

limber quartz
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Well first let's understand what this means

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You want to take a crack at it?

stiff cosmos
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Sure

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I think it means there exists a function value p(f)=0

limber quartz
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Really? I dont think thats what it says at all

limber quartz
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What does THAT mean?

stiff cosmos
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function can't be cubic perhaps

limber quartz
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No like, lol, literally

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What does it mean

stiff cosmos
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oh lol

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the function inputs of -1 and 6 result to a 4

limber quartz
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Ok! So we have a cubic with 2 points fixed on a horizontal line

stiff cosmos
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yep

limber quartz
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I'm trying to think if that's actually a thing for a cubic with more than one set of coefficients

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I doubt it

stiff cosmos
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cubic could look like this

limber quartz
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Make geogebra can help

limber quartz
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The points would stay fixed

stiff cosmos
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yea

limber quartz
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That would fix 1 or 3 points though, not 2

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I think it fails because I dont think it exists the way it is defined

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I think the subset is empty

stiff cosmos
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so ur saying it cant be a cubic

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It doesnt belong in P^3

limber quartz
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I dont think so, because there should be a 3rd point that is also equal to 4 and the definition doesn't list it

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1 or 3 points will have the same value, not 2, in a cubic

stiff cosmos
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makes sense

limber quartz
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But...maybe they just didn't list it on purpose

stiff cosmos
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I just checked

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and C is the only correct answer

limber quartz
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What

stiff cosmos
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so it does fullfill all the axioms, i just don't know how

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let me check again

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ok sorry my bad

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it's only 1

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lol

limber quartz
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Only A, you mean

stiff cosmos
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yeah

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which is A

limber quartz
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Good

stiff cosmos
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so you're saying

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for it to be a cubic

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it must be something like

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p(-1)=p(6)=p(y)=4

limber quartz
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Some other value a

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Yeah

stiff cosmos
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yeah got it

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that makes sense

limber quartz
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Or

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Just a single point with that output

stiff cosmos
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yea basically

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thanks for the help

limber quartz
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Np

stiff cosmos
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wait i got another one

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if u dont mind

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alright 1st and 2nd one violate the zeroth vector axiom. So it leaves us with C being the only possibility

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last one seems to fulfill all the axioms

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obtuse pebbleBOT
proven zephyr
crystal cloud
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Number 55

crystal cloud
crystal cloud
warm shaleBOT
crystal cloud
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<@&286206848099549185>

proven zephyr
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ok so

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what have you tried

crystal cloud
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i tried putting

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well no

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i tried putting n to 500

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and t to 0

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and then see

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how much t changes by

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per hour

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i got 2.4 but im 100% sure its wrong

proven zephyr
crystal cloud
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nono

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i tried seeing how much t changes by per hour

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honestly not sure what to do tbh

proven zephyr
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oh ok so

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do you know what n0 is?

crystal cloud
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i dont

proven zephyr
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initial value or something

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if im not wrong

crystal cloud
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oh ok

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so basically

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the y intercept

proven zephyr
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ig so

crystal cloud
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so n_0 is 500 then

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when t is 0

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wait

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no

proven zephyr
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yes

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?

crystal cloud
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wait yes

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wait

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if t = 0

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that means n_0 is 500

proven zephyr
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yes

crystal cloud
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so does that make n = 500 as well

proven zephyr
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because current time is 0

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now

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at hour 1

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number of bacteria = 1200

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try inserting it to the equation

crystal cloud
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Give me 5 mins

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Doing sum else

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My bad

proven zephyr
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np

crystal cloud
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,rotate

warm shaleBOT
proven zephyr
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we have time

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hour 1

crystal cloud
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How do I plug that in

proven zephyr
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just put 1 in time

crystal cloud
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But how did u know t is time

proven zephyr
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because that's the formula?

crystal cloud
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Doesn't say it in instructions

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It just gives formula

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Well nvm tbh

proven zephyr
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but it's the formula

crystal cloud
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It ssys

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When t is 0 n_0 is 500

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So it's not unreasonable

proven zephyr
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ok so

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now you divide both sides by 500

crystal cloud
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Ok so now I left with

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Ok

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This is ez from here

proven zephyr
crystal cloud
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Wait

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Bruh

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I solved for K

timid silo
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njlsrlihfrsllfsklnfenjlfenlfeaaefnfnkfeankeanka

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aes

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fsgadbns

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dba

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eb

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s

crystal cloud
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Like sped

timid silo
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a

proven zephyr
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ok he stopped spamming

crystal cloud
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Anyway I solved for K

proven zephyr
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ok

crystal cloud
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Like retar

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What is K supposed to be

hot hazel
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@timid silo don't spam

crystal cloud
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The number

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Of hours?

proven zephyr
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K is growth

crystal cloud
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what

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Elaborate

proven zephyr
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rate of growth

crystal cloud
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Is it how much it grows from initial value

proven zephyr
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not rlly, but yes

crystal cloud
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Cause I got K is 0.875

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Which seems wrong

proven zephyr
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because it is wrong (nvm)

crystal cloud
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OK ima send

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Wait

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What I dix

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Did

proven zephyr
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,calc ln(2.4)

warm shaleBOT
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The following error occured while calculating:
Error: Undefined function ln

proven zephyr
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,w ln(2.4)

crystal cloud
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So is it right

proven zephyr
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hmm

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it's correct then

crystal cloud
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How

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Wtf is K man

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This is confusing

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@proven zephyr sir are u alive

proven zephyr
crystal cloud
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Ok u know how to do it or no

proven zephyr
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0.87546 should be correct

crystal cloud
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But look at 55a

crystal cloud
proven zephyr
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yeah?

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n = 500e^kt

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you have kt

crystal cloud
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So how tf do I solve that if ifk what K is

proven zephyr
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wdym you dont know what K is

crystal cloud
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I dont

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What is K

proven zephyr
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k is rate of growth..

crystal cloud
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Ok so how many bacteria are there after 4 hours

proven zephyr
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use the equation

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rate of growth doesnt change

crystal cloud
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Oh ok

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Now I regret erasing everything

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Wait

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I get it

proven zephyr
crystal cloud
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Everytime t increase k increase with ig

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It*

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So always same

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Omg

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@proven zephyr thx

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.close

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np

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torpid scroll
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(x^3 - 2) ^3 / x^2 dx how would i go by this question?

timid silo
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to integrate? either expand it, or see that d/dx(x^3)=3x^2

torpid scroll
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to integrate

steep harness
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$\int \frac{(x^3-2)^3}{x^2} \ dx$

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this?

torpid scroll
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the top one is to the cube power

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(x^3 - 2 ) ^3 that

warm shaleBOT
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GoldenPhoenix

torpid scroll
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yeah

steep harness
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I think the best approach here, as toby said, would be a u substitution

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try using the substitution $u=x^3-2$

warm shaleBOT
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GoldenPhoenix

torpid scroll
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thats the u du way right?

steep harness
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yep

torpid scroll
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oh i see

steep harness
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often with problems like this, the hardest part is finding what the substitution should be

torpid scroll
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and was confused how to pick which one to substitute with u

steep harness
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that's fair. It's often not easy to intuitively see

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basically you want to find a good u that will let you cancel some things out when you eventually substitute dx=f(u) du

torpid scroll
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hmm

steep harness
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where f(u) is the extra bits of the substitution that you need to make them match

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if we use the sub I suggested above, can you find out what dx will turn into?

torpid scroll
steep harness
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yes. we have the equation of the substitution, what we need to do is take the derivative of both sides, and remember that the derivative of u is du, and the derivative of the equation with x will have a dx at the end

torpid scroll
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Wait im sorry my pc just suddenly shut down

steep harness
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take your time, math can get tedious, there's no rush

torpid scroll
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Im confused i think i got the answer but just shookt about the pc is it du / 2x² =dx

steep harness
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yes

torpid scroll
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Ngl my phone started hanging and wouldn't work its like i was hit by an emp or soemthing

steep harness
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now we just need to make sure we only have u in our new equation, which isn't too bad, we just need to solve for u

torpid scroll
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so we substitute dx with du/ 2x^2 in the equation?

steep harness
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yep

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but then we need to make sure all copies of x are expressed as u