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haughty coyote
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For example the function that alternates between slopes 2a and 0 evenly has infinitely many spikes, has no limit to its derivative, its derivative doesn't ever get close to a, yet its asymptote is ax

haughty coyote
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So that's why you don't talk about derivatives

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Also you have a bit more theory about asymptotic behavior that I think explains your intuition

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In the case where f(x) / x -> a, you have a few different cases to consider

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If f(x) - ax -> some constant b, then we can say ax+b is the asymptote of f, that's the nice case

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If f(x) - ax -> + or - inf, we can't say it's an asymptote because the distance between f(x) and any ax+b is not going to 0, so we talk about a "parabolic branch" (at least in French, but I think it's the same name in English)

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If there's no limit, then we can only talk about an asymptotic direction

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Ok

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cf 5, page 31-32

grave halo
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je vais regarder merci

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C'est bon j'ai compris la logique merciii

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have to solve for t and the corresponding points (a,b,c) at which the lines intersects the plane

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is this allowed given its= to r

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Why is the thing highlighted in red always positive?

sturdy rune
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wait lmao the left part just says <=0 xd

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kind arrow
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simple question( x = 1)
is y=x-3, y=-4 or y=-2?

stark ether
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what is 1-3

kind arrow
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-2

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oh wait nvm, I just did my solution wrong

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timid silo
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how do I correctly perform reverse chain rule on the following:

timid silo
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ok in hindsight tbh its a disgusting integral i think id be better off using u substitution

robust sleet
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just u sub x-1

timid silo
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ye, i can do that

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but i thought i could pull it off

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in my head

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using reverse chain rule

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oh u could

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it simplifies to 1/2(x-1)^3/2

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doesnt it?

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yh

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if i have f'(x, y) = 0 and f''(x, y) = 0,
does that just mean inflection point for f''(x, y)? (this is for the point 0, 0 for x,y)
soooo does that mean saddle point? i forget things with f(x,y) lol

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royal solar
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which one are you doing it with respect to,

devout hatch
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i thoughttt f'(x, y) was equivalent to f(x, y) derived with respect to x PLUS f(x, y) derived with respect to y

devout hatch
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whats div f

eternal bloom
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you might want to review the operators

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divergence

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devout hatch
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hm, its just this question is saying i need to use the 'second derivative test' to classify the point at the origin... (it says the procedure doesnt work though)

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so i guess the second derivative test just doesnt exist? cos how do you find f'(x, y) and then f''(x, y), because ur saying you can only differentiate with respect to one variable, but i'd wanna differentiate for both i thought

robust sleet
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u can differentiate for x then for x again, or for y then for y again, or u can diff for x then for y or for y then for x

devout hatch
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yeah i know of that but i don't know where to go from there really. the question doesnt tell me what to derive with respect to, thats why i suggested

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median mesa
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Up to part b, haven't got to much experience using mat lab. I tried coping it in with the xyz value but it was giving errors

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lucid sluice
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please can anyone help me

timid silo
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Ok so the question needs you to put the triangle in the circle and label the sectors and segments

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im so confuesed

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steel socket
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the cubic formula is so large, is there any mapipulation i can do to make it smaller but keep it the cubic formula

steel socket
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the cubic formula is so big i had to write it across two separate lines

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the plus in the middle connects the two terms

civic zealot
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most versions I've seen use substitutions

steel socket
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yes

civic zealot
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that trinomial and binomial are the same, so set them equal to p and q

steel socket
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im trying to do it without substiution

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ik about the substitutions ppl do with p and q, the only difference between the two giant terms is the middle operation sign in each of the cube roots

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it just seems like there is a form of notation, or something that could allow me to shorten it without substitutions

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If you know a lot about mathematical notation itself pls lmk

civic zealot
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then probably not. If there was a simpler way to write it, then it'd be written that way

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woeful folio
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Hi! How could this be done being both together?

woeful folio
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Like this i mean (ik best representation lol)

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daring rock
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What do you mean "both together"?

woeful folio
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Like the first one divided with the parallel lines like in the second one

daring rock
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You mean, could you solve for all the individual segments if there were more parallel lines in the first problem?

woeful folio
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yeah

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i think I'll be fine if I know how to do the first one tho

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Should it be 60/40 = x/36?

daring rock
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Yes

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And I think the answer to your question is yes. The triangles would still be similar and each trapezium would be similar as well

woeful folio
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so I just have to use the Tales theorem?

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for everything?

daring rock
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I don't know it by that name, but you just have to use the fact that the side lengths are proportional

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daring rock
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You're welcome

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Hi I have a question about this hypothesis test
as i dont really know how to approach it
and where to start
especially for my H_0 and H_A

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data^

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Ignore my trash eraser

“A polynomial function with rational coefficients has the follow zeroes. Find all additional zeroes.”
I have to write it in function form
How do I factor these numbers?

-1 + i, -1 - i, √5, -√5

kindred fractal
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I can figure out the -1 + i, -1 - i part simply because I already did a question like that
But I don’t understand how to factor the square root of 5’s

brave bramble
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Factor these numbers?

kindred fractal
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Yeah

brave bramble
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That's all the zeroes that such a function would have

kindred fractal
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Or rather, just write them as (x +3) or the such

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I’m not great at wording things

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Don’t wanna leave this open while I go sleep so

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thoes answers are wrong!

fierce lagoon
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No they are correct

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Use your inscribed angles theorem

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crimson horizon
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IJK is inscribed to the diameter

sage plover
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180/2

crimson horizon
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So how many degrees is it?

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Yes

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KJL is 67 degrees

sage plover
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90

crimson horizon
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Yeah

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So then what’s Angle IJL

sage plover
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90?

crimson horizon
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No

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Angle addition
KJL + IJL = IJK

sage plover
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157

crimson horizon
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No

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It’s 67 + IJL = 90

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Subtract 67 from both sides

sage plover
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23

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67+23=90

crimson horizon
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Yes

sage plover
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now how about IKL

crimson horizon
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Arc JK + arc JI = arc KJI (semicircle)

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You know a semicircle is 180 degrees

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And it’s given that JK is 112

fierce lagoon
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It seems I can't do division in my head lmao

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It hit me that you wrote 67 and not what I thought of

sage plover
crimson horizon
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68 is the arc measure

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You want the inscribed angle

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So what do you do?

sage plover
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multiply by 2?

crimson horizon
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Divide

sage plover
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sorry

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lol

crimson horizon
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It’s ok

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You got it now

sage plover
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34?

crimson horizon
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Yep

sage plover
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do you know how to do this?

crimson horizon
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First find the vertex (midpoint of the 2 points given)

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Gonna go eat lunch now

sage plover
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(1, -2)

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dapper bloom
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Get the radius next.

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You found the coordinate of the center

crimson horizon
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Oh btw sorry I said vertex not center

dapper bloom
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The radius extends from the center to either of those diameter pts

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So you just gotta use the distance formula

sage plover
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i hate distanceeee

dapper bloom
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Yeah, it's a pain lol

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You can skip some of it I guess.

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You want to use the general equation for a circle

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That equation uses the center of the circle and the square of the radius (so you can try to be clever and avoid the sqrt)

sage plover
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is it -2?

dapper bloom
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Mmm, the radius will never be a negative length

sage plover
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0?

dapper bloom
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That also seems wrong

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So, for A=(a_x,a_y) and B=(b_x,b_y) the distance between A and B is d(A,B)=sqrt((a_x-b_x)^2 + (a_y-b_y)^2 )

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And for a circle to compute the radius you need to find the distance from its center point to any point on the circle

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You just found the center and either of those two given diameter points are on the circle, so pick either and use them with the center point in the distance formula.

sage plover
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wha-

dapper bloom
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Hmm. You remember the distance formula right?

sage plover
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2√13

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it has to be

dapper bloom
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Mmm. Why two? Did you just use both diameter points in the distance formula?

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Pretty sure that's what you did lol.

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Ask yourself this: what's the difference between the length of a diameter of a circle and the length of the radius of a circle? How are they related?

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What you found is not the length of the radius, but you can use it to find the length of the radius.

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From there you will have everything you need. The general equation of a circle centered at (a,b) with radius r is (x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2 = r^2 and you will have just found the center point and radius length.

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Is it correct to find the domain after you simplify here, or do you find the domain before you simplify?

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Because simplified you get one answer and not simplified you get a different answer.

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dapper bloom
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Do it before

toxic harbor
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Is this like common practice, or is there a specific reason?

dapper bloom
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Stuff like f(x)=(x-1)/(x-1) for example. It's the line y=1 with a gap at x=1 because it is undefined at x=1.

toxic harbor
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Oh I see

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Why do we get two different results when you simplify though?

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That's verty strange

dapper bloom
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Because the functions f(x)=1 and g(x)=(x-1)/(x-1) are defined in two different ways that lead you to two different functions I guess. thonk

toxic harbor
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I don't think so cause even if it was one function you would still have the same problem

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right?

dapper bloom
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Like, when you simplify (x-1)/(x-1) you're assuming it's defined in the first place i.e. that x is not 1. (Or else it would just be 0/0)

toxic harbor
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Like f(x) = ((1)/(sqrt(x))^2 - 4

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This would just be the same problem

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Even though it's not composite

dapper bloom
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Mmm, that's still a composition of several functions.

toxic harbor
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Really? how

dapper bloom
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Yeah, like there's a way to write that as a composition of a bunch of functions.

toxic harbor
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Oh

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I see

dapper bloom
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Lets do a less complicated one

toxic harbor
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Sure sure

dapper bloom
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Iike f(x)=abx

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Even though we haven't specified it above we could let g(x)=bx and h(x)=ax so f(x)=h(g(x))=h(bx)=abx.

toxic harbor
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Oh I see

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Hm, fair enough

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So before simplifying?

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So (0, infinity) for ((1)/(sqrt(x))^2 - 4

dapper bloom
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Yeah p sure

toxic harbor
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Okay tysm

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Appreciate you taking a look ❤️

dapper bloom
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You can double check this with stuff like desmos too

toxic harbor
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How?

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Oh

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You mean graph it

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and look

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yeah

dapper bloom
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Compare the graph of 1/x and (1/sqrt(x))^2 for ex

toxic harbor
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lemme do that

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Oh okay

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let me try

dapper bloom
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Ah shit wait

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Uh [sqrt(x)]^2=|x|

toxic harbor
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Yeah?

dapper bloom
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Ok yah still works

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Just use 1/|x| not 1/x

toxic harbor
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Why?

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Oh

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yeah

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Wait why

dapper bloom
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God damn it no I'm still mixing it up

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Other way sqrt(x^2 )=|x|

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Eh, either way (1/sqrt(x))^2 only takes positive real inputs when you graph it

toxic harbor
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What's the difference between these two?

dapper bloom
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sqrt(x)^2 is undefined at x=-1 (assuming we stay in the reals)

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But sqrt(x^2) just works out to be |x|

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It's never undefined because squaring a negative gives a positive

toxic harbor
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shouldn't the squarte be outside the root?

dapper bloom
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I'm saying the diff between inside the root/outside the root gives two different functions

toxic harbor
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Oh okay

fiery juniper
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Why is there a difference

toxic harbor
fiery juniper
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The power being in the root and outside the root

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It shouldn't matter what power you apply first

dapper bloom
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It dows matter what power you apply first if we're sticking with real numbers

toxic harbor
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Because in the root means you do the square first, outside means you do the root first.

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Right?

dapper bloom
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sqrt(x)^2 is undefined at x=-1 but sqrt(x^2) is defined at x=-1

fiery juniper
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but don't we have sqrt(x^2) = (x^2)^1/2 = (x^1/2)^2 = sqrt(x)^2

toxic harbor
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Inside gives negatives too, while outside gives positives and negatives

dapper bloom
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The analogy earlier was simpler x/x=1

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But only if x is not zero

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Because 0/0 is undefined

fiery juniper
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yeah, it makes sense, I just can't get over the fact that I always though there is no difference

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I remember being told they are the same

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but probably we weren't that concerned with the domain back then

toxic harbor
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This is so interesting

dapper bloom
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You just have to be a little careful is all.

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We could define the sqrt on all real numbers, we'd just need to send negative values to numbers involving i

toxic harbor
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Btw, why is sqrt of a negative not real?

dapper bloom
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Mmm, so let x<0, consider y=sqrt(x), by definition this value satisfies y^2 =x, but if y were real then y^2 would be at least zero, and x is in fact less than zero like we said earlier.

fiery juniper
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because there is no number sqrt(x) such that sqrt(x) * sqrt(x) = x if x is negative

fiery juniper
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any number to an even power is a non-negative number

toxic harbor
toxic harbor
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I see

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interesting

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ty guys

dapper bloom
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This is where complex numbers come from btw.

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Worth looking into if you find it interesting.

fiery juniper
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You introduce an imaginary unit that is i = sqrt(-1) and then there exists sqrt(x) such that sqrt(x) * sqrt(x) for any x

toxic harbor
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Wait sorry sorry

fiery juniper
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for example if x = -4

fiery juniper
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sqrt(x) would be 2i

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so when you square it you would get (2i)^2 = 4 * (-1) = -4

dapper bloom
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It's just the negative reals for x that make sqrt(x) not a real number basically.

toxic harbor
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ohohohohohohohhohohoh

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got it got it

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took some thought

toxic harbor
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ty guys again for explaining

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draw the subgroup lattice for the group generated by a,b,c each of order 2

supple pumice
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the group <1,a,b,c>

compact shadow
gilded needle
compact shadow
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No

gilded needle
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then what are they?

compact shadow
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They are isomorphic to (Z/2Z)^2 while G is isomorphic to (Z/2Z)^3

gilded needle
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<a,b> contains a and b by definition and it contains 1 since it's a group

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so it has at least 3 elements

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by lagrange it must have all 4

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oh right

compact shadow
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Like I said, (Z/2Z)^2, Klein group

gilded needle
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i misinterpreted what G is

compact shadow
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I see

gilded needle
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and assumed it was the Klein group

supple pumice
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what about <abc>

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oh wait

compact shadow
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Wait…

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What I drew doesn’t make much sense right…

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Reconsidering…

supple pumice
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i was thinking about <ab> etc

compact shadow
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I was dumb, why did I assume they are abelian… nvm

gilded needle
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seems there's not really enough info

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i mean the group could be the klein group or it could be (Z2)^3

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depending on the assumption about multiplication

supple pumice
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its a galois group

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i keep coming up with some weird looking thing

compact shadow
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I thought it was <a,b,c|a^2=b^2=c^2=1>

supple pumice
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yeah, the group i have could be generated like so

compact shadow
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It is this group? Okay

supple pumice
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its also abelian

compact shadow
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?

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So free abelian group generated by a,b,c

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Quotient

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Smallest subgroup containing a^2, b^2, c^2?

supple pumice
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huh

compact shadow
supple pumice
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ok im probably wrong

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sorry i havent dealt with groups in a while

compact shadow
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So which one it is?

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Free group generated by a,b,c over a^2,b^2,c^2 or free abelian group generated by a,b,c over a^2,b^2,c^2?

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Or you give us the galois extension

supple pumice
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ok

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$Q(\sqrt{2},\sqrt{3},\sqrt{5})/Q$

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I see

supple pumice
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Ive shown that its galois already

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supple pumice
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and i have eight automorphisms

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oh ok

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but Im still confused why <ab> doesnt show up for instance

compact shadow
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Yeah I wonder the same… what went wrong…

supple pumice
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because <ab> is a subgroup of order 2 and its not contained in any of the smaller subgroups so it should show up somewhere, right?

compact shadow
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Strange… a maps sqrt(2) to -sqrt(2),doesn’t change other roots. b maps sqrt(3) to -sqrt(3), c maps sqrt(5) to -sqrt(5). Then Inv(<a,b>)=Inv(<ab>)=Q(sqrt(5)) right

supple pumice
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Inv is the field fixed by these right?

compact shadow
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Wait it was wrong…

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Yeah

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I think this time it’s correct:

supple pumice
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i forgot about <a,bc> and stuff

compact shadow
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I will try to give the corresponding intermediate fields

supple pumice
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ok ill use it to check my own

gilded needle
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isn't <ab> a subgroup of <a,b> as well? (since ab is an element of <a,b>)

compact shadow
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Yeah

supple pumice
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yeah

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oh you missed that line

compact shadow
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Yeah several lines

supple pumice
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its ok though i was mainly concerned about the subgroups

compact shadow
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And this should be intermediate fields:

supple pumice
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also would you say that
<a,b,c|a^2 = b^2 = c^2 = 1, ab=ba, ac=ca, bc=cb> is a sufficient presentation

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Yes

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anyway to say this is 0 using det properties and without expanding?

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add first column to second and then compare second and third column

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this matrix multiplied from the right by [1; 1; -(a+b+c)] gives 0 so it is singular

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What parent function is this?

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The -3 throws me off

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it really don’t matter what f(x) is

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@toxic harbor

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@pallid flameHow do I write the function if I don't know what the parent function is?

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can you spot any difference between f(x) and g(x)?

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What does toolkit function mean?

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parent

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i need help with iv please 🙂

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how do i find phase shift?

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forest sinew
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factor

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the argument

leaden shoal
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how

forest sinew
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algebra

leaden shoal
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=0?

forest sinew
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=0? what do you mean

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you want it in the form like

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c(x-p)

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p is your phase shift

leaden shoal
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how?

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can u teach me

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idk how to factor this

forest sinew
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what is attached to x

leaden shoal
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pi/5

forest sinew
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this is what u need to factor

leaden shoal
forest sinew
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why are you setting it equal to 0

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do you know what factor means?

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its just like

leaden shoal
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yes?

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ofc i know

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ax+ab

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say you have this

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a(x+b

forest sinew
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then youd write a(x+b)

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this is would be factoring a

leaden shoal
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ik?

forest sinew
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or factoring the expression

leaden shoal
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bro

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i know whats factor

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but i dont know how to factor that

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do u understand what im saying??

forest sinew
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im not saying you dont know

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im just confused about what you are hung up on i guess

leaden shoal
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im saying that i dont know how to factor that

leaden shoal
forest sinew
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you wanna factor pi /5 right

leaden shoal
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yes

forest sinew
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lol dont be mean

leaden shoal
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no its just annoying

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ur just repeating

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factor! factor! factor!

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like bro i know but how?

forest sinew
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$\frac{\pi}{5} \qty( x - a)$

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forest sinew
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u wanna find a such that this is equal to what you have above

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$\frac{\pi}{5} \qty( x - a) = \frac{\pi}{5} x - \frac{2 \pi}{5}$

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forest sinew
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what is a

leaden shoal
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2pi/5

forest sinew
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it is not

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what were your steps for finding a here?

leaden shoal
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u cant cause u dont have x

forest sinew
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huh?

leaden shoal
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is there any other ways to find the phase shift other than this?

forest sinew
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if you are allowed to graph it

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you can get it by visual inspection

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the phase shift is always found it factored form

leaden shoal
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bro what is the formula

forest sinew
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if your argument isnt factored, then you have to factor it first to get it

leaden shoal
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i just want to know the formula to find the phase shift

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i remember that there was a formula

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like a/b

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or something

forest sinew
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what did you try here

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to find a

leaden shoal
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idk

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divide pi/5 or something

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a=2?

forest sinew
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yea

leaden shoal
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ok ty

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wait thats the same

forest sinew
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the same?

leaden shoal
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whats the difference?

forest sinew
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i dont understand, difference? what do you mean?

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difference between what

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its just the same argument but in a different form

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so you can extract phase shift

leaden shoal
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=0

forest sinew
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and you arent solving for the correct thing

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x is like

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you arent solving for x

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this is what you should be solving

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for a

leaden shoal
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hmm but i get the same answer

forest sinew
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your algebra is bad

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you just added pi/5 to one side?

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you arent allowed to do that

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so i think it's coincidental

forest sinew
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im just worried its gonna make it seem more confusing

leaden shoal
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ok

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its fine

forest sinew
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okay

leaden shoal
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u can pollute my brain

forest sinew
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$\frac{\pi}{5} x - \frac{2 \pi }{5}$

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i guess note that there is no equals here

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its just an expression

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forest sinew
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so now i multiply by 1

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$1 \cdot \qty(\frac{\pi}{5} x - \frac{2 \pi }{5})$

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forest sinew
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i rewrite 1

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i guess lets stop for a second like

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its okay to multiply by 1, right?

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as long as you add 0 or multiply by 1 you wont change anything

leaden shoal
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then why multiply 1?

forest sinew
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$\frac{5 \pi}{5 \pi} \cdot \qty(\frac{\pi}{5} x - \frac{2 \pi }{5})$

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i rewrite 1

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leaden shoal
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u got to find the lcm tho

forest sinew
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this is still 1, right

leaden shoal
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if the denominator isnt same u gotta cross multiply

forest sinew
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im not doing anything like

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no lcm or anything

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im just multiplying by 1

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nothing fancy

leaden shoal
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1 of what?

forest sinew
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this is just prepatory

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just 1

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5pi/5pi = 1

leaden shoal
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1 of pi/5 or 2pi/5

forest sinew
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all i did was multiply by 1

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this is just gonna be more confusing lol

leaden shoal
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u get the same answer when u multiply by 1

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look at this

forest sinew
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i guess i could just say i mean i know youre mad i keep saying it but

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factoring is worth learning and getting comfortable with

leaden shoal
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how are u gonna factor this?

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wait nvm

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its easy to factor this

leaden shoal
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which is the phase shift?

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hello?

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oh ok

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so this is correct

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okay sure

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yea

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this is more or less what i seeing in my head when i said just factor

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Why do these methods show different answers?

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it doesnt

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2 just isnt an answer

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2*

coarse flare
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how

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whats wrong with the first method

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its not wrong

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just 2 doesnt work

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the top one you should do

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2 works tho

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@timid silo

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When x is 2, both are equal

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8/0 and 4/0

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Why is this wrong

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why did you take 1/4 out?

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before u do that

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log_b(b)+log_b(x^1/4)

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then do it

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yes, taking out like that doesnt work

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if it was (bx)^1/4 then you could have taken out

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log_a(bc) = log_a(b) + log_a(c)

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so if its like log_b (bx^2) , then i cant just take out the 2?

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yeah cuz x is only squared

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Why did my teacher give me a 0/15??????

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Does
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What

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Oh

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Ni

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No

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On the reals, yes

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For a>0 it is x=+- nth root of a

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2 4 6 etc are odds right?

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No, those are even

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And at least 1 real root

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So it’s impossible to factorize x^3 - 27

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You can factor that

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Difference of cubes

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Oh

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You can also factor it using horner table

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Do we have to convert time to seconds?

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Or to minutes or to hrs?

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you should always convert to si units

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so seconds

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So seconds ye

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That means ans is 1728000km?

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yes

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When do we calculate it as hrs?

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1 m/s = 60 m/min = 3600 m/h = 86 400 m/day

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you normally never calculate with hours in an equation
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there you could write t1 and t2 in hours

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Hey

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Simple log question

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$log_{10} 5x=1$

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$log_{3} 1 =x$

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Do these solutions look correct?

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dopediscorduser

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,w log_10 (x) + log_10 (5) = 1

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As you can see, yes

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I didn't even know you could do that

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I dont get what to do for this question

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how to find one side of a triangle when you're given all 3 angles

haughty coyote
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You need a length as well

magic portal
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yea I got one

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200

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I have 3 angles and 1 side

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but I need to find 1 other side

pine sail
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Sine rule.

magic portal
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k

brittle blaze
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Basic trig yeah

magic portal
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what do you put as the bottom?

pine sail
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Side length, opposite to angle A.

magic portal
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Ok

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I dont know 2 sides so I made them x and y

pine sail
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Sure.

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Name all your friends.

magic portal
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What

pine sail
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Name them whatever you want.

magic portal
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Ok

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Calculate a,b,c,d

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So i have calculated all these

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Testing 123

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Hi i just joined the server and got no clue what I'm doing but i can try to help

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f'(any number) is equal to c

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Yeah f is linear, and that's why the derivative is constant

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Pretty cat in your profile header btw

meager swift
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But it seems like you got the correct numbers

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Don't really see how your friend got b = -1/3

proper coyote
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So then when entering c

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U get b = -1/3

meager swift
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Damn I misread. Yeah it's late over here

proper coyote
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Oh how late

meager swift
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11:40 pm

proper coyote
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Oh damn

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When u going to sleep then

meager swift
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In twenty minutes i think

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Alright

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meager swift
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Oh thx for the info

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Don't think I'm going to need any for a while now tho

proper coyote
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Oh

meager swift
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I'm done with most of my math subjects

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For this semester

proper coyote
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Nicee did ur exams go well

meager swift
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It heckn did

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Man don't think ive ever had an exam that was that easy before

proper coyote
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Yay good job

meager swift
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Tyty

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Thnx for helping me btw

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Now im done with homework

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gn

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Suppose G is a cyclic group and it has at least one element of infinite order. Show that every non-identity element in G has infinite order

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Kurama

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So if G is cyclic, that means $\exists a \in G$ such that $\langle a \rangle = G$. Then take $x \in \langle a \rangle$ so that $ x = a^m$ for some integer m. Then for any integer k, $x^k = a^{m^{k}} = a^{mk} = e$ iff $mk = 0$ following the definition. So only when $k = 0$ do we get the identity. Meaning no positive power k makes $x^{mk}$ equal the identity, which means $|a^m| = \infty$.

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Kurama

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If the sum of the 3rd and 5th terms of the arithmetic sequence equals to the 10th term. Then what is ratio of the sum of the first two terms to the sum of the first nine terms of the arithmetic sequence?```
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I tried $$U3+U5=U10$$

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ItzAine

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do u know general term of ap

stone solstice
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making it $$a+2b+a+4b=a+9b$$

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ItzAine

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yes yes

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what do u get after that

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a=3b

stone solstice
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yes

warped agate
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find the sums then

stone solstice
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so it asks the ratio of the sum of the first two terms to the sum of the first 9 terms

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first 2 terms sum will be a+a+b = 2a+b

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first 9 terms sum will be
9/2(a+a+8d)

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take ratio and use a=3b u get the answer

stone solstice
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yea so then it should be $$6b+b= 7b$$

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ItzAine

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to the ratio of

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$$\frac{9}{2}\left(6b+8b\right)$$

warm shaleBOT
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ItzAine

warped agate
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yes

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so answer is 1:9

stone solstice
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how is it 1:9?

warped agate
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dude

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7b/9*7b

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7b 7b cancelled

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1/9

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so 1:9 is ratio

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oh

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OH YEAH

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oops

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tysm

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npnp

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If matrix A has an Inverse of :

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How do I find the original Matrix?

nocturne minnow
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Find the inverse of that matrix

stone solstice
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I inverse it again?

timid silo
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(A^-1)^(-1) = A

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so it would be $$:\begin{pmatrix}1&1\ -\frac{1}{3}&-\frac{2}{3}\end{pmatrix}$$?

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ItzAine

nocturne minnow
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Show work

timid silo
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Is A times that the identity, and is that times A the identity as well then yes it’s the A inverse

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I didnt work on it, I just stuffed it in a calculator, I was looking for the theory itself

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hidden bronze
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having a bit of trouhble with this one

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mabye i drew it out wrong

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idk

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<@&286206848099549185>

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can someone look at this

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hidden bronze
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oops mb

ornate moss
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i need help with this question

stark ether
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hidden bronze
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but

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the thing is

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i think i drew it out wrong

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could u help me draw it out

stark ether
hidden bronze
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mhm

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thats exactly how i drew it

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so idk what went wrong

stark ether
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what did you do after that

hidden bronze
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wait

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um

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i dont think its drawn like tht tho

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idk

stark ether
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it is

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its going west at 75, due to cross wind its going at 95 in 45deg from x'

hidden bronze
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i thought im tryna find this green line

stark ether
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no?

hidden bronze
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hmm

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ok

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lemme try

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ur drawing

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wht formula do i use

stark ether
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cross wind velocity + initial velocity = final velocity

hidden bronze
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hmm

stark ether
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cross wind velocity = final velocity - initial velocity

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using vector subtraction

hidden bronze
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so 20

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?

stark ether
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no?

stark ether
hidden bronze
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so how would i do tht

stark ether
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cosine rule,

hidden bronze
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oh shit

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yeah

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i got the magnitude

stark ether
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that gives you the magnitude

hidden bronze
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okat

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so

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now the angle

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uh

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sinx

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sina/a =sinb/b

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ohh

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wait

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cant i just use cosine rule again?

stark ether
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sin rule works too I think

stark ether
hidden bronze
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leme try sin rule

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then

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okay

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yeah

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i got the angle

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lol

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bruh, this isnt even related to the chapter tho

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the whole chapter was useing this rule

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weird

stark ether
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oh lmao 🗿

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but thats what you just did

hidden bronze
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no?

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i used cosine rule

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thts all

stark ether
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oh I see

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you get the x component of the wind by using rcost-a

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and y component of the wind is rsint

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then find mag by sqrt(x^2 + y^2)

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and you can find the angle by sint' = rsint/mag

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@hidden bronze got it?

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strong vale
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The shear definition here makes sense

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but I don't see how this relates to the 45 degree angle