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unique solstice
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Im not quite sure that would work

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This is kinda a weird tricky thing

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So Ill just say it

prime goblet
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Oh

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Ok

unique solstice
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So say all you did

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Was change the range that the sum goes across

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So you start with

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$\sum_{n=1}^7 4 \cdot 4^{n-1}$

warm shaleBOT
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PapaBread

unique solstice
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Then say m=n-1

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m being some random variable you create

prime goblet
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Ok

unique solstice
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So then you can substitute m in for the n-1 in the exponent right

prime goblet
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Yeah

unique solstice
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So then you also have to change the bounds of the summation

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You cant just leave it alone

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You know that m=n-1 so any number relating to n in the bounds you would subtract 1 from

prime goblet
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Ok

unique solstice
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Because at the beginning n is 1

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m=1-1 = 0

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At the end n is 7

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m=7-1 = 6

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So therefore you can rewrite it as

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$4 \cdot \sum_{m=0}^6 4^{m}$

prime goblet
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Ok

warm shaleBOT
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PapaBread

unique solstice
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(and lemme just pull out the 4)

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Does that make sense?

prime goblet
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Kinda, so would that all be the sum?

unique solstice
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Yeah thats about as simple as you can get it without using one of the special sum formulas

prime goblet
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Okay

unique solstice
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So then do you have a sum formula for an exponential like that?

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I would hope so

prime goblet
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I don’t.

unique solstice
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Hmm

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Youve never heard of one and your teacher hasnt taught you anything like that?

tardy epoch
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this is very similar to the name of the sum

prime goblet
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No.

unique solstice
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Oh wait is there a formula directly for that sum?

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Well I guess you know most of how its derived now

prime goblet
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Yeah

unique solstice
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Im guessing youre supposed to apply this formula?

prime goblet
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It looks familiar so probably.

unique solstice
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Reasonable

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So yeah thats basically all youre doing in this question

prime goblet
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Ok

unique solstice
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Or at least I would assume so

prime goblet
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Ok

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indigo hedge
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Why in nCr do u need to divide by r!

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lusty goblet
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Definition

indigo hedge
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i get that dividing by r! makes them unique

lusty goblet
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It's given n items, pick r items without regard of order.

indigo hedge
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Yeah but why does n! give u all the possible ways that n through 1 items can be arranged

lusty goblet
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Well, for 1 item there are 1!=1 ways on how to reorder item.

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Then given there are n! way to reorder n items, to calculate how many reorderings possible for n+1 items, do the following:

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  1. Order n items, there are n! ways to do it.
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  1. Place one more items either between items or before and after the whole item. There are n+1 slots available
indigo hedge
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Is it like because there are N ways for the first part of order
N-1 option for second and so on

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so u multiply out

lusty goblet
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Yeah, like that.

indigo hedge
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and then with combinations u divide by the (n-r)! so it will stop with how many items or numbers or letters u actually care about ordering

and then divide by r! to get rid of the nondistinct orders

lusty goblet
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Yeah, like that.

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3. Write down the possible number(s) of significant figures for each of the following 
approximate values. (4 marks)
(a) 23 570
(b) 100 600
(c) 2000, correct to the nearest ten
(d) 0.093 60

i'm not sure what it's asking 😖

finite gazelle
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do i write the value of those sig.figs? like a) 5

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i dont really get the question

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nocturne minnow
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Like a test?

finite gazelle
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not a test

nocturne minnow
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But pretty sure it's asking for sig figs for each number

finite gazelle
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thanks

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:D

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finite gazelle
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right

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The mean number of TV sets is 2.24. The standard deviation is 1.1. A sample of 90 households is drawn. Calculate the The 10th percentile of the sample mean using an excel function

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does the wronskian have a first order relation with any of its derivatives besides its first?

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cerulean tartan
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meaning, is $W + a(x)W^{(n)} = 0$ for any $n$ besides 1, where $W^{(n)}$ represents the $n$th derivative of the Wronskian?

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crisp dune
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Shouldn’t m=0 be excluded as well?

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crisp dune
royal basin
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which part?

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crisp dune
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For 5a

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@royal basin

royal basin
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so you think m=0 SHOULDN'T be part of the answer for part a? do i understand you correctly?

crisp dune
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Yes

royal basin
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why?

crisp dune
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Because when we rearrange the equation

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Or actually

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Because it will make the function undefined

royal basin
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look what happens when we set m to 0. here's the system of equations we get:

-2x = 1
3x - 2y = 0

this system is dead easy to solve

crisp dune
royal basin
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are you sure that you aren't doing something like dividing both sides by m in doing your rearrangement?

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that would cause complications for m=0 specifically.

crisp dune
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Yeah so I make y the subject

royal basin
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okay, see, if you're doing that, then you have to consider m=0 separately.

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because the way you're going about it only works when m isn't 0

crisp dune
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If the question was written in the form that made y the subject

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Then I would consider m=0 being excluded?

royal basin
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if the question were written as y = (2x+1)/m then that would be a different story

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because in that case yes m=0 would be excluded a priori

crisp dune
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Ok right

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Thank u

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radiant cobalt
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hi guys does anyone know how to solve section d question 1

glossy ibex
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let me get my magnifying glass

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implicit differentiation ?

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royal solar
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because one is the reciprocal of the other and -1 is it’s own reciprocal

jagged cedar
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guys i need help

sterile wyvern
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What's the derivative of cos^2(x) ?

jagged cedar
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is it -sin(2x)?

sterile wyvern
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Yes! So, do you have any ideas now?

jagged cedar
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absolutely no idea

sterile wyvern
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You have sin(2x) at the numerator

jagged cedar
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am i gonna substitute it?

sterile wyvern
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Try the substitution u=cos^2(x)

jagged cedar
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like this?

sterile wyvern
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du = -sin(2x)dx, so there is a mistake

jagged cedar
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what if i substitute the sin(2x) into 2sin x cos x?

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then du = 3/4 cos(x) sin(x)

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nevermind

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????

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cursive zinc
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U can try converting cos^2(x)

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Into cos(2x) identity

glossy ibex
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d/dx cos^2(x) = -sin(2x)

glossy ibex
jagged cedar
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?

glossy ibex
jagged cedar
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wait, what if u=cos^2x, du = -sin(x)dx

glossy ibex
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-sin(2x)dx*

jagged cedar
jagged cedar
glossy ibex
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ok and then

jagged cedar
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then the numerator will be cancel?

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..

glossy ibex
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nah

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looks grim

glossy ibex
jagged cedar
glossy ibex
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substitute sin(2x)dx for (4/3)du

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i dont follow

jagged cedar
glossy ibex
jagged cedar
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it's gonna cancel in anyway

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cause my du = -sin(2x)dx

glossy ibex
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if it cancels with du then you dont get du anymore

glossy ibex
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@jagged cedar if you solve the integral post your steps here

jagged cedar
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guess i'm wrong

glossy ibex
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prob

glossy ibex
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i got that because constant coefficients like -3/4 are easy to integrate since you can move them outside the integral

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with this sub you end up with $\int 4/3du/u^8$

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jagged cedar
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what's next?

glossy ibex
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integrate with respect to u

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use reverse power rule

jagged cedar
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should i substitute it into v before i use the power rule?

glossy ibex
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NO

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its already substituted into a familiar form

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can you integrate 1/x^8 ?

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just use reverse power rule

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||1/x^8 = x^-8||

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livid lodge
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hey guys, sorry if i posted in the wrong channel i’m new here, but the third line of working in this solution doesn’t make sense to me ? how do you assume it is greater than 4. thanks for help 🙂

drowsy girder
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Well if sin²2theta is less than 1

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And 1/2 becomes 1/4 after squaring

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Worst scenario 1/4 * 1 is 1/4

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And 1/1/4 is 4

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drowsy girder
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Whats the question?

weak elk
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ok

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its asking for lateral area and tsa

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of the hsape

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total surface area

drowsy girder
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Well do you know how to calculate area of a triangle?@weak elk

weak elk
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yea

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the triangles are 12 area

drowsy girder
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So what area cant you find?

weak elk
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the rectangles

drowsy girder
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The 13*5 rectangle?

weak elk
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no

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the bottom one

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idk how to find that

drowsy girder
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I see 1 rect and 1 triangle

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Am i missing something?

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its a triangular prism

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there is 3 rectangles and 2 triangles

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Can anyone help me? Why is this always true?

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fossil dove
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It was something like it's true because x is all that exists in the universe in the latter statement?

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worthy comet
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P(x,y) holds for all x and all y, so especially for the y with y=x

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wdym

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3x = 33, x = 11

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square both sides

spiral maple
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unclear

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sqrt(2x+1)?
sqrt(2x)+1?
sqrt(2)x+1?

brittle swan
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√(2x + 1) = √(5x - 32) is what they’re trying i guess

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spiral maple
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That's clear

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How you typed it was the furthest from clear

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square both sides

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the operation of squaring something

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do that to both sides..

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You've never seen $a^2$?????

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spiral maple
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You're doing square roots... but have never seen squaring????

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The fuck

unique solstice
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Yes

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$5^2 = 25$

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broken maple
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is this even correct?

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i think it should be dy dx not dx dy

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we are required to change the order of integration and compute

sage geode
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Ye it should be dy dx I think

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Because x going from x to infinity doesn't make sense lol

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Hi, would any of you happen to know if there is a way to rescale a normal distribution from interval [a, b] a and b being the values at 3 stds from the mean to interval [a, c], where c is smaller than b in a way that preserves (approximately) the original gaussian's mean ? I was thinking of using a skewed norm, but it is unclear what I must set the parameters to in order to achieve my goal.

naive fern
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To give more context, I'm trying to recreate a similar setting as one can create with a Bernouilli distribution, i.e. to rescale the parameters and the PDF in order to insure that no sample taken from the rescaled distribution can leave the bounds determined by the rescale factor.

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To give even more context, here's the paper that has me thinking: https://www.aaai.org/AAAI21Papers/AAAI-9199.MerlisN.pdf, specifically Algorithm 1, in the else statement. This effectively rescales the sample taken from the Beta distribution within the interval [0, 1 - epsilon] instead of [0, 1]

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Actually, I think for my use case I could get away with a truncated normal. It would preserve the mean while making sure samples are taken in the desired interval. Thanks rubberduck mathematicians 😉

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hey, if its not too much to ask, how would i get to this result?

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stone coral
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can anyone help me with this stat problem

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A large state-university system is considering a proposal to change the academic calendar. A random sample of 320 faculty were asked their opinion about this proposal. From this sample, 120 faculty were in favor of the proposal to change the academic calendar; 176 faculty were opposed to the proposal to change the academic calendar; and the remainder were undecided. Based on this survey data, find the margin of error for a 96% confidence interval estimate of all faculty opposed to this proposal to change the academic calendar.

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dude, i claimed this channel already flonshed

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sorry

idle thunder
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Where is your dx

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And where is your +C

fiery wraith
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only given that lol, but i guess its implicit

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timid silo
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Substitute e^2x as u then use double angle formula

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fiery wraith
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still not a bit sure on how to follow up with the double angle formula lol

timid silo
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Substitute u=1+e^2x n then use cos2x=2cos^2(x) -1

fiery wraith
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ah, the whole 1+e^2x? i thought it was just the e part lol

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Yep

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How to transform this to be able to use Vieta's formulas?

high lily
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assuming x_1 and x_2 represent the roots

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and that x_2 = (x_1)^2

woven summit
high lily
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then your two roots can be represented as
x_1 and (x_1)^2

woven summit
high lily
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is this part of a larger question?

woven summit
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Yep

high lily
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what's the whole question

woven summit
high lily
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i suppose you should first differntiate f(x)

woven summit
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Yep and i get this

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And i thought i could use Vieta's formulas to find a

high lily
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you don't really need vieta's

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x_1 and x_2 are roots of f'(x)

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consider solving f'(x)=0

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note that f'(x) can be factorised

woven summit
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I get this ugly answer.
a should be 2 😅

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Hi! I have a question about probability and poker. I will use "." for multiply because of italics.

INTRODUCTION

In poker (52 cards, 1 to 10 + J + Q + K, four suits), the frequency of:

  • Four of a Kind is: 624 possible combinations = 13C1 . 4C4 . 12C1 . 4C1 which means:
    (one number).(all suits of that number).(one number other than the one previously used).(one of the suits)
    Alternatively, it can be calculated as 13C . 4C4 . (52-4)C1, this last part means one card other than the four previously used.
  • Three of a Kind is: 54912 = 13C1 . 4C3 . 12C2 . (4C1)^2 which means:
    (one number).(three suits of that number).(two numbers other than the one previously used).(one of the suits for each of both cards)
    This calculation already excludes the chance of a four of a kind.
  • Pair is: 123552 = 13C1 . 4C2 . 12C3 . (4C1)^3 which means:
    (one number).(two suits of that number).(three numbers other than the one previously used).(one of the suits for each of the three cards)
    This calculation already excludes the chance of a three or four of a kind.

QUESTION

How do I calculate the chance of a three of a kind or a pair, without excluding the chance of something better? I mean, I want to know the chance of having a pair, even including the few times I could be lucky and draw more than 2 cards of the same (like drawing 3 or 4).

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WHAT I TRIED

  • Pair: 1528800 = 13C1 . 4C2 . (52-2)C3 which means:
    (one number).(two suits of that number).(any three cards other than the two already used) but I'm not sure if that is right.
    I tried to use the same line of thinking to calculate the chance of a poker pair but using the (52-x)C3 formula for the rest of the pair, but it gives me a different result: 1349088 = 13C1 . 4C2 . (52-4)C3 which means:
    (one number).(two suits of that number).(three cards other than the two already used and the other two that are the same number)
    Why this is different from 13C1 . 4C2 . 12C3 . (4C1)^3?
  • Three of a Kind: 61152 = 13C1 . 4C3 . (52-3C)2 which means
    (one number).(three suits of that number).(two cards other than the three already used) but I'm not sure if that is right.
    I tried to use the same line of thinking to calculate the chance of the poker three of a kind but using the (52-x)C2 formula for the rest of the three of a kind, but it gives me a different result: 58.656 = 13C1.4C3.(52-4)C2 which means:
    (one number).(three suits of that number).(any two cards other than the three already used and the one that is the same number but hasn't been used)
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Would you mind looking at my formulas? <@&286206848099549185>

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you don't want us to read it?

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It is intended to be read, I just put the spoiler because I though it make the text easier to not lose the line. I will remove it

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# tardy epoch check if your answers match up here: https://www.math.mcgill.ca/dstephens/323/kn...

The answer isn't there.
In normal poker, the chance of for example a pair is calculated as the chance of having two cards of the same number (that math is already shown at wikipedia and at my Introduction part).
What I want to know for a pair, is the chance of having at least two cards of the same number. That means, that if any of the three remaining cards is the same number that the first two, I want it to be included in a pair chance, and not being removed like in normal poker (because in normal poker you would never want to use a pair if you have a three or four of a kind).
I'm not sure if the math I used in my attempts its correct, because when I try to recreate the normal poker math using the other method (52-x)Cy instead of 12C1 . 4Cy I get a different result.

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Can you give an example hand or hands of your different cases

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AA234 is a pair, etc.

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In normal poker, if you have AAA23 it automatically stop counting as a pair, because three of a kind is better. That means that if you search in internet what is the chance of having a pair, the math will exclude this example, because three of a kind is better than a pair. However, three of a kind contains a pair (if you have three Ace, it means that you at least have two Ace) and so I want to include it in the chance of having a pair

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Just add the probabilities of pair and three of a kind then

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They're disjoint events

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Or use inclusion exclusion formula if you want to derive it yourself

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I did some formulas, but I'm not sure if they are right. For having the number of combinations of a pair or better (so a three or four of a kind would be included) I tried with 13C1 . 4C2 . (52-2)C3 = 1.528.800
However, if I sum the poker chance of a pair, of two pairs (they already include one), of a three of a kind (if you have three, you have at least two), of a full house (if you have a three of a kind and a pair, you at least have a pair), four of a kind (if you have four, you at least have 2) that gives me 1.281.072, so I'm sure I'm missing something.

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Additionally, I tried to re-create the formula of a pair 13C1 . 4C2 . 12C3 . (4C1)^3 but written in a different way 13C1 . 4C2 . (52-4)C3 that I think should be the same, but gives me a different result and I don't understand why.
The part that is different 12C3 . (4C1)^3 vs (52-4)C3 I don't understand why it gives a different result.
I mean 12C3 * (4C1)^3 would be explained as the combinations of taking 3 cards out of the twelve numbers that remains (because one number is already taken by the pair) and then multiply it by the combinations of the four different suits that exist, once per card (that is why ^3). Instead (52-4)C3 would be explained (if I'm correctly) as the combinations of taking 3 cards out of the 48 cards that are remaining on the deck (because two cards were already used by the pair, and two other cards would convert the pair into a three or four of a kind), but they give different results.

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Comparizon:

  • In four of a kind: 12C1 . 4C1 and (52-4)C1 are equivalent.
  • In three of a kind: 12C2 . (4C1)^2 and (52-4)C2 aren't equivalent.
  • In a pair: 12C3 . (4C1)^3 and (52-4)C3 aren't equivalent.
    What I don't understand is why they aren't equivalent
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Which equation it is.

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so far i know that i can replace it and make it x/sqrt(u)

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wdym

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u and x

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they substitute for one another, not co-exist

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oh ok

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how should i make it

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Your $u = x^2 + 1$, right?. you have to express $x\ dx$ in $u$ and $du$ variables.

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so i would make it u/sqrt(u^2+1) du?

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how'd you get that?

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you said substitute the x and u

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no i didn't

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how should i do it?

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i read the formula and have this

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from the site

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great. do example 1d

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this one?

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the problem looks similar ill try

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im still lost

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i tried it

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what part don't you get

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substituting the u

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which line

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the second

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when it becomes u

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did you follow these calculations?

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yea im using the du

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how does that become -1/8

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isnt it supposed to stay -8x

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yes

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do you see $xdx$?

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riemann

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yes

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what is that equal to

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-1/8du

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how does it become -1/8du

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how does what become -1/8 du?

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the -8x

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i did but i dont know how it they got the answer

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then you didn't follow it

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do you get $du = -8x dx$ ?

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riemann

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yea from the u=1-4x^2 it becomes -8x

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solve for $x dx$

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riemann

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it's better to write this as
$\int (1-4x^2)^{-1/2} x dx$

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riemann

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when we solve for xdx should it be -8du

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why -1/8

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$du = -8 x dx$ implies $-8 du = x dx$ ?

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you multiplied -8 to both sides and got $(-8)^2=1$ ?

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yea

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,calc (-8)^2

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wait no divide from both

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oh ok

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divide -8 from both sides

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xdx becomes - 1/8

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since theres imaginary 1

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on du

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there are no imaginary numbers here

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no imaginary

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i meant like we can add a 1 to it since 1du would be du

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adding 1 to du doesn't make any sense

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du + 1 ?

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no not +1

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divide 8 from both sides

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i get it

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yes now i know why its -1/8

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oh that's a u

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so far so good

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x^2 becomes 2x

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just follow the same steps

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no minus, even easier

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we do the some thing

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and would get it to be 1/2du

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wait no

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you're rushing your algebra

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1/2x du

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would it be 1/2sqrt(u)?

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because du = 2xdx

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it would be 1/2sqrt(u) du

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plug cos^-1(3/4) or arccos(3/4) in your calculator

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i am rewatching a lecture video from my professor (calc 2) and in the video we are reviewing some rate of change stuff since we just started up the semester again. The function given was f(x)=x^2+3x

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i know i was just in a channel but i need help with another one and thats it umm this one looks intimidating because of the <0

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I believe that it expects you to use the value it gives you for tan and the sign of cos to determine what quadrant theta is in, and then compute the values from there. That should help a bit.

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Not quite, it says that it is less than zero, so you know it must be negative. So you should identify in which quadrant both cos and tan are negative, and base your answers around that.

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so i have to draw a triange out

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A unit circle would also help, but either would work.

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wait one question does theta haave to have a hypotnuese as one of its sides

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Yes, because if it didnt then it would be in the place of the right angle, which you would not want.

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ok

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so

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that mmake up the -4/-3

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wait it doesnt matter what order i plug these in in the pythagoeran triple cus none of them are hypotnuse right?

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I would recommend having something like this on hand, so you can see where the angle should be and see which of the sides should be positive or negative.

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what is that

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It is a chart that shows the signs of the trig functions in the different quadrants. When you have problems that have negatives in them, it is useful to have a chart like this in your notes. Do you have a unit circle?

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i lost mine

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do i need it i wanna know how to di it with simply the triange

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oh wait i need to figure out the quadrent

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ill just search it up

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got it so what now

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So which quadrant is it in?

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ummm

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the uhh

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how do i fugre that out with 4/3?

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Figure what out?

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where it sits in the unit circle

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arent i suppsed to do that with the 4/3

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also was i supposed to plug anything in the pythagorean triple

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so like

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let me try the chart

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the bottom part of the chart i assume?

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5 area

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You would want to look at which of the functions are negative in each quadrant and use that to identify which quadrant it would be in from there.

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function?

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sin, cos, tan, the trig functions

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but

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i cant really figure that out apart from quadrent 4 where -4/3 sits

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or quadrent 2

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It would be in quadrant 2, since it is the only one where both cos and tan are negative

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would it be easier i fiugred out all of the sides firt

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csc and cot arent negative?

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wait is that given in the question

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wait the -4/-3 canceled out and became postive right

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i think i have an answer

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Well, you are supposed to figure out whether or not they are negative from either making a triangle or from using a unit circle/sign chart. Then make sure that the trig functions have the right value and that would be your answer

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cos 5/4 & cot 3/4

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but

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isnt it both negatives cus the - is in between these too

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two

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No, it is the same as $\frac{-4}{3}$ or $\frac{4}{-3}$

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$-\frac{a}{b} = \frac{-a}{b} = \frac{a}{-b}$

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The negative sign can go:

  1. On top
  2. In the middle
  3. On the bottom

It doesn't actually matter

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oh ok so either side could be negative?

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Yes, but you should use the information given to figure out which side it is.

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so it is better if i adjust my answer as 5/4 csc & - 3/4 cot

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cus thats whats on eht answer choices

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Yes

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its c?

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Yes

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I am supposed to find the maximum revenue (accidentally wrote P as u can see) and I put it into a factored quadratic then expanded it and completed the square

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where does the 2/3 and 3/2 come from ?

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1/2+1=3/2

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Which is 2/3

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i hate it man

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Power rule

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If $I$ is a set, $\sigma$ is a measure on $I$, and $X$ is a Banach space, what does it mean for an operator $E:I\to X$ to be in $L^2(I, \sigma; X)$?

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Hi, i'm trying to fully understand and practice the doomsday rule, so far I used the method gaved my the youtube channel numberphile based on what John Conway did, and at the moment i'm getting good at it but sometimes i'm stuck

For exemple when I find my doomsday of the year and that the date I need to find is in the past compared to the doomsday I don't know how to proceed
Because if my doomsday for exemple is Monday (1) 14 march and the date I need to find is 19 march 2022 i just calculate the difference which here is 5, then I add my doomsday which is monday so 1, 5 + 1 = 6 I know the day is Saturday

But what if the date is in the past like i need to get the 03 march 2022 ? Because here the difference is 11 which i'm supposed to add my doomsday so 1 which is 12, 12-7 = 5 so the day is supposed to be Friday but in fact it's Thursday

I don't really know if i'm clear, and if you're familiar with this rule but I'm a bit stuck here

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I cant understand fraction

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Tell me abt fraction pls

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what do you m ean by fraction

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Express -125/216 in power notation

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wdym by f(r)

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like what does that mean

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and likewise for dv/dy

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here is my question

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how would you create in equation?

lavish gate
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say that C is total cost and t is time in hours

finite saffron
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how would that look

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well its like y=mx+c but in this context C=mt+c

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$25 would be the constant because you need to rent the skis before skiing

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and every 2 hours the total cost should go up by $15

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Thank you

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how would the y axis and x axis look on a graph?

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nvm

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@lavish gate can u help with another question

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Does anyone know how to do this

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spiral maple
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equate them and compare coefficients

stray ridge
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How

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Should I expand

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Or complete the square

brittle swan
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either

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i'd prefer expansion

spiral maple
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Expand would be quicker

stray ridge
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I’ve done this so far

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What should I do next

balmy mortar
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How have you been at this for almost 2 weeks???

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Do you know what equate coefficients means

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Because that's what we keep telling you, but you don't seem to understand

stray ridge
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I do

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I’ve got three a equals B

balmy mortar
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what???

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By equating coefficients, you should have 3 equations (one of which is redundant)

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Write them down and show us

stray ridge
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I thought it was just comparing the coefficients

brittle swan
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after comparing you obtain a system of equations

balmy mortar
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I think you need it

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You are equating the coefficients of x in each equation

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in order to make the 2 polynomials the same

stray ridge
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Is this sort of correct

balmy mortar
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That is indeed equating coefficients

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but you have only done it for the coefficient of x

stray ridge
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Yeah so what should I do next

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Is 8a equal to 2?

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No ignore that

balmy mortar
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See this is why I think you should look up a tutorial

stray ridge
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8 = 3a

balmy mortar
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no

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$$ax^2+bx+c \equiv px^2+qx+r$$

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The 2 quadratics are the same if and only if

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a=p

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b=q

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c=r

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A similar statement holds in general for polynomials

stray ridge
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So is this wrong

balmy mortar
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Yes.

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Look up a tutorial on equating the coefficients since you don't seem to understand

stray ridge
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What makes it different to the first one I did

balmy mortar
stray ridge
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Ok I have read it. What should I do if there is not an equal amount of terms on either side

balmy mortar
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There are precisely 3 terms in a quadratc.

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What you have above is a quadratic in x on both sides of the equation.

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Identify the 3 terms.

stray ridge
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X b a

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I don’t know

balmy mortar
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$$3x^2+2bx+8a$$

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balmy mortar
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What are the 3 terms of this quadratic expression

stray ridge
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X bx and a?

balmy mortar
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??????????????????

balmy mortar
stray ridge
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What is a term

stray ridge
balmy mortar
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How do I put this

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How are you at this stage without having the basics of what a quadratic is

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$$ax^2+bx+c$$

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ax^2

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bx

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c

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Are the 3 terms of this quadratic expresion

stray ridge
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Ok

balmy mortar
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So you identify the 3 terms here in exactly the same way

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But the problem is not the left, but the right

stray ridge
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3x^2 2bx and 8a

balmy mortar
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$$3x^2+6ax+3a^2+b+2$$

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balmy mortar
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What are the 3 terms of this quadratic expression in x

stray ridge
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3X squared 6AX 3a squared

balmy mortar
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how.

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what happened to the b and 2?

stray ridge
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And those

balmy mortar
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???

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So list to me on a newline what the 3 terms of this quadratic are

stray ridge
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I don’t know

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Please can you tell me

balmy mortar
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I have told you how to find the 3 terms of a quadratic expression

stray ridge
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Yes but you want 3, and I gave you three

balmy mortar
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Each term involves a power of x

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$$ax^2+bx^1+cx^0$$

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Shuri2060

balmy mortar
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Does this make things clearer?

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Each term is something multiplied by a power of x

stray ridge
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Yes, but didn’t you want 3 terms

balmy mortar
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Of course, because there are ONLY 3 terms for any quadratic

stray ridge
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So what should I do with the B and the two

balmy mortar
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Agree or disagree?

stray ridge
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Which form? The one you just did

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stray ridge
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I agree

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$$f(x) = ax^2+bx^1+cx^0$$

stray ridge
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Agree

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Is this a quadratic expression in x, agree or disagree?

stray ridge
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So the bx^0 and 2x^0

balmy mortar
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So what are you asking me to do now

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stray ridge
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Just add X to the power of zero for the last three terms

balmy mortar
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$$f(x) = Ax^2+Bx^1+Cx^0$$

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Shuri2060

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So you can find me what A and B and C must be?

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There are only 3 terms to any quadratic in x

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3x^2
6ax
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These are the 3 terms

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There are only 3 terms

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Each term without the power of x is known as the coefficient

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Does this explain now what the process of equating coefficients is about?

stray ridge
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Why did you get rid of the first two terms

balmy mortar
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???

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what

stray ridge
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Why is it those three

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And not 3X squared plus 6AX

balmy mortar
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A polynomial in one variable (let's say x) consists of terms.

Each term consists of a single power of x multiplied by a constant

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The constant is known as the coefficient

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I mean honestly - I shouldn't be re-explaining all this to you which you should have gotten from classes/textbook.

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Revise what polynomials or quadratics are...

stray ridge
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Can you explain it in terms of the question

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That’s not what I don’t understand

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$$3x^2$$
$$6ax$$
$$(3a^2+b+2)$$

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If you understand the definition, you should be able to apply it

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I want to know why you have not included the first two terms

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and identify these are the 3 terms

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of that RHS

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Shuri2060

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What do you mean 'not include'

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I have not missed anything out

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The sum of all the terms is the original polynomial

stray ridge
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Like how do you know to use those three and not the first three

balmy mortar
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???????????/

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A polynomial in one variable (let's say x) consists of terms that are summed together.

Each term consists of a single power of x multiplied by a constant. Different terms consist of different powers of x.

The constant is known as the coefficient

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Understand the definition first before asking.

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Ok

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If you still don't understand then I suggest looking up a video/page explaining the same thing to you

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you could search up 'what is a polynomial'

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Okay thanks for your help anyway

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One last thing

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@balmy mortar

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A book will be better

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And more precise

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My friend did this. Is it correct

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idk

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You should ask them how they did it

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If they understand.

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Can You check to see if he made a mistake

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no.

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Can someone explain what I'm missing in this problem?

$$\int \frac{\sqrt{1-x^2}}{x}$$

my thought process is to make a trig sub for $$x = \sin(t)$$, then you get $$\int \frac{\sqrt{1-\sin(t)^2}{\sin(t)} = \int \frac{\sqrt{\cos(t)^2}{\sin(t)} = \int \frac{\cos(t)}{\sin(t)} = \ln(\sin(t)) +C = \ln(\sqrt(x))+C

I looked it up on wolfram and it says I should get $$\sqrt{1-x^{2}}-\left(\operatorname{arctanh}(\sqrt{1-x^{2}})\right)$$, which isn't equivalent, but looks very close.

Any idea what I'm missing in this problem?

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$$\int \frac{\sqrt{1-x^2}}{x}$$
$$x = \sin(t)$$
$$\int \frac{\sqrt{1-\sin(t)^2}{\sin(t)} = \int \frac{\sqrt{\cos(t)^2}{\sin(t)} = \int \frac{\cos(t)}{\sin(t)} = \ln(\sin(t)) +C = \ln(\sqrt(x))+C$$
$$\sqrt{1-x^{2}}-\left(\operatorname{arctanh}(\sqrt{1-x^{2}})\right)$$

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$$\int \frac{\sqrt{1-x^2}}{x}$$
$$x = \sin(t)$$
$$\int \frac{\sqrt{1-\sin(t)^2}{\sin(t)} = \int \frac{\sqrt{\cos(t)^2}{\sin(t)} = \int \frac{\cos(t)}{\sin(t)} = \ln(\sin(t)) +C = \ln(\sqrt(x))+C$$
 $$\sqrt{1-x^{2}}-\left(\operatorname{arctanh}(\sqrt{1-x^{2}})\right)$$
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$$\int \frac{\sqrt{1-x^2}}{x}$$
$$x = \sin(t)$$
$$\int \frac{\sqrt{1-\sin(t)^2}}{\sin(t)} = \int \frac{\sqrt{\cos(t)^2}}{\sin(t)} = \int \frac{\cos(t)}{\sin(t)} = \ln(\sin(t)) +C = \ln(\sqrt{x})+C$$
$$\sqrt{1-x^{2}}-\left(\operatorname{arctanh}(\sqrt{1-x^{2}})\right)$$

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Well, I guess one error I'm seeing already is that it should be ln(x) not ln(sqrt(x))

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$\int \frac{\sqrt{1 -x^2}}{x} \dd x$ is your problem?

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Chromium

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Yeah

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so you used trig sub?

mint phoenix
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Yeah

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hm

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there's a better way to do it

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are you forced to do trig sub

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Yeah, forced to do trig sub. Full disclosure I'm a TA for a calc class I'm working on an example for trig subs. Trying to work through one myself and checking that my results are correct

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oh so this is a problem you came up with lol

mint phoenix
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More or less. I'm taking ideas from their homework

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might wanna use $\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{1 - x^2}} \dd x$ instead

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Chromium

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i don't think there's a way out except for trig sub

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(so that you can show its ✨ superiority✨ )

balmy mortar
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Almost all integrals are not doable by hand

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If I wrote random numbers/functions it would almost always be impossible

mint phoenix
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Sure, but I would expect this one to be possible.

balmy mortar
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All integration questions you see are handcrafted so they are possible.

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By no means is that guaranteed

brittle swan
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$\int_0^{\infty} \frac{\sin x}{x} \dd x$ bleak

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Chromium

balmy mortar
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You should check in wolfram to see if it is even possible first.

mint phoenix
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That's exactly what I did

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Sorry, i think my first messgae got buried after I tried to fix my TeX

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My problem is that wolfram disagrees with the answer I'd expect to get, and I'm not sure where I'm going wrong

brittle swan
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free steps

balmy mortar
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you should compare your answers on desmos

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to check for equivalence

mint phoenix
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Already did

brittle swan
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sometimes the problem lies in the + C

mint phoenix
balmy mortar
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The constants of integration are not necessarily the same

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ok, that is different.

brittle swan
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they're referring to differenti constants altogether

balmy mortar
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You can plot each step of your working as well

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Figured it out. I forgot to substitute my 'dx' when I sub'd the 'x'

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How do I find a multiplicity of a zero in this

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each unit is 1

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and i understand that -4, 2, 6 are zeros

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but idk how to find the multiplicity of it

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i know how to understand if it’s a odd multiplicity or even

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but idk how to find if it’s 1, 2, or 3

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(the multiplicity)

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<@&286206848099549185>

lean wigeon
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Basically, you want to look at just the area around the zero, and see if it looks like x, x^2, x^3,etc.

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take x=2 first, what does the area around x=2 look like?

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for example at x = 2, the curve is increasing as it cuts x - axis, => f'(x) > 0 but f(x) = 0

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so, multiplicity of x = 2, is 1

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You can only ever tell if it is odd or even from a rough sketch

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If they tell you the degree of the polynomial or something, that might help things

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ok ty

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how close

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someone help please

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You already have m and need b

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is m right?

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0.001 = 119.7(7) + b

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is b = -837.89

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,w d/dx(3.1 x^2-4.6 x) at x=7

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ohh

sterile wyvern
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,w solve 3.17^2-4.67 = 38.8 * 7 +b

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mb i used the wrong m

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okayy

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