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But if you owe someone those assets
Its like you own a negative amount of them
so that is like multiplication by -1
ok?
So you own this piece of paper that says you owe someone all this stuff
ok
Now if you owe someone this piece of paper
ok
That is like multiplying by -1 again
ok im never gonna understand these stuff
You should give them this piece of paper
ok
ngl that explanation is kind of complicated
-1 x -1 = 1
ok i dont understand anything that u just said
well no ones succeeded in giving a good intuition
i dum
true
ill just ask my math techer i guess
ok ty for help everyone
byee
someone is typing
ill wait
@burnt narwhal Maybe there is one that is less confusing but I like it in that it is the first here that actaully explains a reason "why" without just saying "do this".
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yeah good idea
That was a rabbit hole
welp lol he left
truly
yeah
That and the lack of knowledge with negatives
lmao
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asking the right questions at least heh
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heheheha

I think you would be surprised how many grown ups working in the industry would be having trouble.
negatives always have been annoying for me
It's just that a lot of people memorize things get through school
but rlly, why does -1 x -1 = 1 D:
Theres a reason why negative numbers werent discovered for a hot minute
Dont gimme ring theory bs
and throw it ouf the window immediately once they are done with school.
why r u guys still talking
I would understand more complex topics that isn't used daily but if it's something applied on a daily basis, that's different
does that mean its not really useful
R is a R vector space
its fun
ok
I agree, but that that is the voice of a mathematician. For us this is so fundamental that we see this everywhere. But for other people it's different.
also vector spaces aren't rings afaik shuri smh
I'm not a mathematician but I apply negatives a lot
modules and rings are semi groups
Fields only have 1 set of elements, VS has 2
I should not have said mathematician maybe. I meant it more broadly.
Negative numbers arent that useful in terms of counting and trading cows
owing cows
If you are a cashier you can multiply but never need to multiply negatives.
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Its more for financing and physics and stuff
I always count using negatives \s
but if u owe someone who owes you who owes someone... idk
when you owe the ower
"Jimmy you owe me 40 bovines"
Not "jimmy I currently have -40 bovines entrusted to your care"
"Multiply those there bovines by -1 right this instant"
@fathom harbor Why did you do this to us. lol
🐄
i was just asking question
I know but...
It was a rabbit hole question
ok cool
a rl application of multiplying negatives, have we really none?
I think it's always a bit contrived.
Money?
If you owe money at a constant rate
I dont see anything obvious on google
We did that already but it was confusing admittedly.
at a glance
You could do directions/physics
but i dont think thats as good as money
One person mentioned like
Hm
Somethign along the lines of
"Every time I eat a chicken nugget there is one less chicken nugget on the planet"
Assuming chicken nuggets are not being produced
uhuh...
chicken nuggets = previous chicken nuggets + -1 * chicken nuggets eaten
If I barf up a chicken nugget
wtf
chicken nuggets = previous chicken nuggets + -1 * -1
Bam
Real life application right there
if money was contrived
+1 chicken nugget
Very natural explanation
I think I can safely conclude we shouldn't be taught to multiply negatives until uni then
lol
Until you learn complex numbers
'normal' people shouldnt need this...
Multiplying -1 being equivalent to a 180 degree rotation in complex space
I mean people often say "complex numbers are made up" or something like that.
In reality all numbers are made up.
It's just that we learn negatives so early that it seems natural to us by the time we get to the complex numbers.
But complex numbers are made up, they're imaginary
people seem to be more comfortable with negative/fractional exponentials than complex
All numbers are imaginary
numbers just model real phenomens.
Sometimes it's just positive integers like people in a room.
The names of numbers are imaginary
Sometimes it's complex like points in a plane.
Not numbers themselves
Idk tbh
im sad there is no good explanation for multiplying negatives
I mean complex numbers fit way to perfectly into all math for them to be made up
Theyre an integral part of the basic nature of everything
I am a formalist, I think you are a platonist.
It's a very old debate.
Idk what that means
It means exactly this point of view
R isnt algebraic in R. C is tho :D
It's not your channel anymore so it doesn't matter
ok
"numbers are real in an abstract way/created by god/etc" vs "it's definition pushing, we just define something and it must be that way because that's what we defined"
platonist vs formalist
viewpoint
f(x) = 1-x
ff(x) = 1-(1-x) = -(-x)
Surely we can tack this onto something . . .
I mean basic numbers have stayed the same since the beginning of time
And everything of basic math even though undiscovered has fit perfectly with it
Yeah because it's a very useful tool.
Like people didnt know about complex numbers when they counted cows
But theres that hidden layer underneath counting cows
Yes, they extended the definition later to do more interesting stuff.
That fits like a glove
Every time the "definition was extended" it fit perfectly with not only what already existed but with what would exist
The way to go from natural numbers to integers to rationals to reells to complex numbers
Theres no other way to express numbers really
are general algebraic concepts that work in other monoids/rings/topologies
I don't really mean bases.
But bases just represent value
Bases are just a way to format large numbers.
Which is what Id call a definition
I thinking of numbers as sets in ZFC.
Base 128 is the best base to exist
Perhaps
?
Dont the french use base 6 or smthn weird
Ahahahaha I've found a good one.
You owe 10 people 2 dollars.
So thats 10x-2 = -20 dollars.
You pay 3 ppl back. Thats 3 less people you owe, so you gain -3x-2 = 6 dollars.
Now you are on -14 dollars.
They do but with some exceptions afaik
yeah
@fathom harbor
wut
I have no idea about french so... 😮
ok
yall are still on this haha
Neither
u wanted to know why and i found a better example
Ive just heard that
apparently
uh
We pretty much turned this channel in a discussion channel
but u dont gain any dollars because u still owe them
like u dont get any money back
i mean
like
ur networth wont go up
@fathom harbor The real power is not really that specific example though. It's just an example where we see how it applies.
But you owe less though
Lets say someone pays them back for you
dont understand but ok
Like student loans
$40k of debt for PhD in cats
cats important
Should we ping helpers?
Why?
damn i thought i was gonna get some of you with that image
I mean its been 15 minutes
ye
didnt fall for it though
Easy with bright theme 😄


The ratio is wrong too
I think some people here dislike light themes lol
okay you guys dont have to bully me for my screenshotting skills
i think i rather did pretty well
we love cats
You guys want this closed
is it a general thing that mathematicians like cats?
Nah
Nooo
well im not a mathematician but i do like cats a bit too much
perfect
Cat doesnt know how to eat
you think thats food?
Yes
Looks like some kinda cat formula
Cats dont require fine cuisine
they deserve it though
Despite what the fancy feast ads make you think
No
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Chill is a horrible place
nao
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What is the question?
csc² = cot² + 1
Find the solution set?
okay 2cot i presume
wdym
btw the solution set is incorrect.
ohh we havent gotten that far
Ah okay
i think the answers are limited to from 0 to 2π
Maybe
You should start how Chromium said.
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Can someone teach me find the equation to Thea table
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no idea what are you trying to do
are you trying to find the equation of a line? @marble sable
Seems like it since I don’t think it can be like direct variation or smth
Yeah
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You’d need to find the slope
parabola im guessing?
Yeah seems like a curve of sorts since the rise/run aren’t the same. Idk about those
wait
its the same
yeah i got the equation
i probably shouldnt say the equation but yeah its linear
They are?
technically yes
okay, draw a graph using the points
Ok I found the slope
Do you know how to find equation of a line?
No
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So $A$ and $D$ are similar iff $A = CDC^{-1}$. Then the columns of $C$ satisfy $A\vec{v} = \lambda \vec{v}$. So the columns of $C$ are the eigenvectors of $A$? And $D = C^{-1}AC$?
leadersheir
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Yes if D is a diagonal matrix.
This is usually how one construct this.
You use the eigen vectors for C
and the eigen values for D.
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What are the damains? Help
do you mean domains?
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6/2 (1+2) =
8÷2(4)
4(4)
16
Perenthesis first (2+2)
Then 8÷2(4) is the same as 8÷2x4
so from left to right
4x4
16
@potent compass
Ok got it thanks
Which grade are you in
siohgfuoghdfgi jfg
this question is notorious to have stirred unneeded shitstorm over rarer-than-hell ambiguities
so yea, don't ask that
it's improper notation
I’m in grade eight I’m just doing extra stuff
wdym 'extra stuff'
Yeah just bored
nada, zilch, zip, if you will
Hey can someone help me answer a quick geometry question?
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How did you not know this one
????
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am i doing this right?
no
explain
how did you obtain the right angle
don't rush
well, there is a theorem, which says taking ends of a diameter line and connecting it to any point on the circle will give a right angle
This video looks at GCSE Higher tier circle theorems and covers...
Angles in a semicircle
Angle at the centre double the angle at the circumference
Angles from the same chord in the same segment
Cyclic quadrilaterals
Tangents from a circle
Alternate segment theorem
Including examples of all.
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wait no...
lemme process this
ohh its not an issoceles triangle
but the theorm stands correct
this seems about right?
180-61=119?
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Suppose 10 students are to be grouped into teams. Order doesn't matter. If each team has either two or three students, how many ways are there to form teams?
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pls help i have an exam today very simple question
got it, thanks! 🙌
because the order doesn’t matter. each time you double count divide by 2
first 2! is to remove all double counting in teams of 2
second one is for teams of 3
2! is literally 2 tho, you count them all twice in total so you divide by 2
The order doesn't matter. This implies also that there is no "first group of two" and no "first group of three". One 2! is for the order of the two groups of two persons and the second 2! is for the order of the two groups of 3 persons
ohhh ok that makes sense now
thank you
so you're eliminating duplicate groups by dividing the 2!2!
ex: groups of 2 being a,b. groups of 3 being c,d
it can be abcd, bacd, etc.
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what does "is not equal to" sign means
Example: {Y e R | x ≠ r}
It means, literally, x is not equal to r
Do you have some more context for this set? Or did you just make this one up?
Ahh okay
okay my latex isn't working but whatever
It's saying the domain is all real numbers, except for 0
same for the range
Oh so it's just a undefined
?
what if it's going to be 1, not 0
so it will be {x e R | x =/ 1}?
Don't mix up x and y like that
yea
Yeah, domain is for the x values, range is for the y values
And yes, what you wrote means all real numbers except 1
mhm, thanks
Literally "the set of real numbers x such that x is not equal to 1"
Got it
thank you so much
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Given AB = AC, C' D = CD, AREA ABC'E = AREA C' DE, Proof C'D = DE
||7Y - 42|| 7 * y - 7 * 6
don't do people's work for them
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Given AB = AC, C' D = CD, AREA ABC'E = AREA C' DE, Proof C'D = DE ( isosceles right triangle ABC)
So, you basically are asked to prove that triangle C'DE is an isosceles right triangle
yea
And we know that triangle BAC is an isosceles right triangle
So if you can prove that these triangles are similar, you're set
Actually wait, I guess it's not given that these are right angles
Is it given that DE is perpendicular to BC?
** An isosceles right triangle ABC with legs of length 2 cm is cut from a sheet of paper that is cross-hatched on one side and is solid gray on the other. The triangle is folded by moving the vertex C to position C ′on side BC.**
Okay then yes, the crease (DE) would be perpendicular to BC
So angle C'DE is congruent to angle A because they're both right angles
angle DC'E is congruent to angle C. They are both the corner of the paper
That's two congruent angles between triangle DEC' and triangle ABC
okay
Two congruent angles is sufficient to prove that two triangles are similar
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sure thing
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Hey, i have some problems with 1.d on this question, i've tried applying the variance formula
I tried to solve it by applying the variance formula to only the concerned data and i get those results but they're wrong
Var(Y|X=0) = 0.16245
Var(Y|X=1) = 0.00225
Var(Y|X=0) should be equal to 0,1056
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Can you share a sample of the data here
Check the 4 points given in the table
Do you know the individual x_i values?
These x_i
Try using this formula instead
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_variance
In probability theory and statistics, a conditional variance is the variance of a random variable given the value(s) of one or more other variables.
Particularly in econometrics, the conditional variance is also known as the scedastic function or skedastic function. Conditional variances are important parts of autoregressive conditional heterosk...
hm i see, for the conditional mean, i would just have to do the mean the data that has x=1 for example?
Thanks for the help, imma loop into it more in depth 😄
yea. in fact, parts b and c set you up to do part d's calculations.
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what do you think?
apply things you learned in class
one way a function is discontinuous is when the denominator are zero
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Not really, usually one sees the point 0 as just undefined. Thus it's neither continous nor discontinous.
oh shit you're right
Which point do you think would be discontinous @timid silo?
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how do i convert this
to smth like this
I don't think you should or can.
It's to different.
I would suggest to try substitution to solve the earlier integral.
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how about these?
basically, my teacher wants us to choose one of these to solve
by converting 244 into smth in this table
I think they are all different.
Read the heading
a² + u² is not something we have.
i think i found one
oops forgot the sqrt
yeah
but my teacher wants to do smth diff
aka finding one from the table and plugging values
I don't think there is much differnet you can do.
Ok, if you want. 😄
Idk what the teacher wants to teach with that but I guess you have to follow his plan.
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for b would it be (1/3+h-1) - (1/3-1) / h
Did you mean $\frac{f(3+h) - f(3)}{3+h-3}$
azeem321
If so yes, that's good
This is the limit definition you learned?
yes sir
The limit definition is actually $\frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{x+h-x} = \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}$
azeem321
So same thing really
oh
$f(3+h) = \frac{1}{3+h-1}$
azeem321
So it seems what you did above was right
So you have $\frac{\frac{1}{3+h-1}-\frac{1}{2}}{h}$
azeem321
Get it over common denominator
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yo
so im at this final step in my derivative
but i have no idea how to attack it
any help?
lol attack it just meant like approach the problem
just a jokey way of saying it
alright so let me update you. I managed to find the next step. it looks like this
how do I simplify this further?
thats all i need to do
you see the 1/(sqrt(x)) right?
i mean you could do that
but then you would have that on the bottom as well and it wouldn't look that nice
oh i see
whichever you see fit
do you want a negative on the bottom?
ok so
i got this
but
this is the answer on the online calculator
im a little confused lol
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Chromium
isn’t it guaranteed to overestimate
it's an infinity thing, you can't say $R_n > \infty$
Camilleone
so if the thing on the right diverges to $\infty$
Camilleone
then you end up with $R_n = \infty$ also
Camilleone
there's also a second case, when $f(x) = 0$ for all $x$, in which case $R_n = 0$ and the RHS is also $0$, so it must be an equality
Camilleone
but the integral test wouldn’t apply 
aren’t we assuming the integral test is applicable here
and that the series (hence the integral) converges in the first place
what is the exact statement of the integral test?
for +ve cont. dec f, series of f converges iff integral of f converges
i'm going to write that in words cause it's painful to read
in fact the true statement is somewhat more
wdym
Let $N\in\bN$ and $f$ be a monotonically decreasing function on some unbounded interval $[N,\infty)$. Then, $$\sum_{n=N}^\infty f(n) < \infty \iff \int_N^\infty f(x) dx < \infty.$$
Camilleone
not strictly decreasing?
no need
continuity isn't strictly needed also, but in anywhere before advanced real analysis, you will assume continuity
any examples?
$f\equiv 0$
Camilleone
what’s the integral of 0 😦
0
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Is there any way of solving this problem withhout guessing?
algebraaaaa
variables are THE tool for replacing unknowns, so you can use em here where there are unknowns
ok
could also be a constant (general antiderivative of 0 would be a constant as a constant has a slope of 0)
aight coolio
I just said
for 1.
you can put in variablpes
cause it didnt specify to solve it
woah what do you mean?
I mean, it at least asked for one solution right? Although it's true it didn't ask for all of them
I think the problem is a little poorly worded, but it seems to be heavily implied that there are some numbers that could go in those blanks that you can find
these math questons for real got me doing english analytical essays
I'm just going to tell my math teacher to help me on this because he's got the explanations on the teacher guide
Thank you zd for the help
yea i filled it in with variables but im skipping it for now because i dont know what to do after that LOL
what did you call the variables? I can help you out
just a b and c
cool so you have (a-2i)(b+2i) = c - 10i right
Yes
Well you may know every complex number is of the form a real plus an imaginary right
of course
sure!
precisely that
makes sense
but written more cleanly would be 2ai
if by "add" you mean "add to how it's written" then yeah!
what's -2i(2i)
which is one of the terms you get from multiplying everything out
I would look at that one closely again
looks good
I think you meant to put +4 but that's just a nitpick at this point
so to proceed with anything useful here we will have to assume a b and c are real: we're going to use the fact that two complex numbers are equal exactly when their real parts are equal, and their imaginary parts are equal.
probaly cause i copy and pasted
bro if im being honest
can you say this in caveman words
two thing same when left parts are same and when right parts are same
Basically writing (ab+4) + (2a-2b)i = c + (-10)i we can make some inferences
you'll see I pulled out a factor of i on some terms on the left, lmk if I did anything too fast
i see
So if a,b,c are real, then ab+4 = c, and 2a-2b = -10
oh
from there I think you got this, try solving for one of the variables
kk
I'm going to comeback to this question because my homework due in like 8 minutes 😢 but its light work quetsions from there
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sometimes I surprise myself too
😂 thanks
actually
so i have question still
i just went to eat food this whole time so thats why i lagged on you
i got this now
but it still isnt this:
and idk what I did wrong
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The first few rows were hard to follow due to missing/misplaced brackets, but it's fine - the last line was correct
However, this does not follow from the last line of the previous picture
Compute correctly and you may find the desired result
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why is the angle pi/4
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Let the angle be $\theta\in(-\pi,\pi]$. Then
$$\text{Re}(a+ai)=a>0\implies\theta\in(-\frac{\pi}{2},\frac{\pi}{2})$$
and
$$\text{Im}(a+ai)=a>0\implies\theta\in(0,\pi).$$
Hence $\theta\in(0,\frac{\pi}{2})$. In addition,
$$\tan(\theta)=\frac{\text{Im}(a+ai)}{\text{Re}(a+ai)}=\frac{a}{a}=1;$$
hence $\theta=\frac{\pi}{4}$.
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help
which part
1 - 7
...
im really struggling
okay so like, do you want help or do you want someone to do this for you
both
ok
do you understand what "___ property of equality" means
where the blank is one of the four arithmetic operations
no i am having a hard time understanding
has your teacher not explained such concepts as "adding the same thing to both sides", "multiplying the same thing to both sides" etc?
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may i know if the question is changed to -7854, 2772, do we still have the exact same steps? since gcd(-7854,2772) = gcd(7854, 2772)? or we cant do it with the exact same steps because this is finding the linear combination
Yes. The same step.
The quotient should be taken such that the remainder is non negative and smaller than divisor.
I don't mean "same" . I mean "Similar"
sorry which part ya, i dont get it
In the third line of solution. That is first equation.
Here you put - 7854 in place of 7854. Now you should select a quotient with 2772 ( in the solution quotient is 2) so that the remainder that comes out should be positive and lesser than divisor (that is 2772)
why do we need to put -7854? cant we just put 7854?
since gcd(-7854,2772) = gcd(7854, 2772)
Yes. That is also absolutely correct.
But I was talking for the situation when you don't know about this Relationship.
In that case you will go through fundamentals only.
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Yes that is also correct.
So the whole thing is correct? Because in the end i change the 191 to become -191
Yes. You changed -8 . And that is acceptable. Because all you need to care about is that "the coefficients should be integers"
Sorry what do you mean by i changed 8 ya?
Im confused
In the last line where you have changed 191 into - 191
You also had to change coefficient of 191 ( before it was - 8 now it has to be 8 because you have given its minus sign to 191)
So if my final ans is + (-8) x 191
Then it will be wrong right?
Yeas.
Your question is for - 191 not for 191
So you should write in terms of - 191
At the end.
Oh i seee so we just need to change the sign based on the question
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hi, im very confused about this question. i don't have any work yet cuz i am completely stumped. my professor isnt the best and teaching these things
I don't know what your book may mean by "type I" "type II" "type III" these aren't standard afaik
Happen to have those anywhere?
§2.2, §3.1 from Linear Algebra with Applications, by Steven J. Leon, Pearson, 9th or 10th Ed.
(i dont have the textbook on hand)
Well we can't help if you can't tell us which elem matrix is which
Since it's required to know which is swapping, which is scaling, and which is adding a scaled version
i guess its equivalent to I1, I2, and I3 types
Welp, come back when you have your textbook to look them up
ive seen those
Definition: An n × n elementary matrix of type I, type II, or type III is a matrix obtained from the identity matrix In by performing a single elementary row operation (or a single elementary column operation) of type I, II, or III respectively. Theorem 2.5: Let A be an m × n matrix.
there
Ok.... which ERO is "Type 1,2,3" then?
....
I2 would be a 2 x 2 matrix
Can you answer what I asked??
What ERO is a "type 1 ERO"?
cause identity matrices don't have "types"
finally
So yeah, E_1 swaps rows, E_2 scales rows, and E_3 adds scaled rows
so det(E_1)= what? det(E_2)=what? (Given it scales the 2nd row by 3) and det(E_3)=what?
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Write an equation to represent the total amount, A dollars, he had in his account after w weeks.
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From what I understand a is 1 and 3 because those are the 0’s of s’(t)
I am very confused on the rest
I would think b is s(3) - s(0) but the answer makes no sense to me
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,w graph -x^3 + 6x^2 - 9x - 4
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Huh okay then
So I remember you getting something like -8 for b. Are you still getting that?
Looking at the graph, what are s(0) and s(3)?
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s(0) and s(3) = -4z
s(3) - s(0)
-4 - (-4) = 0
wait no so its 0?
that still doesn’t feel right tho
Actually nvm it kinds makes sense
x = t(time)
So according to displacement from 0 to 3 seconds it did not change from -4
So displacement would be 0
and distance?
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$s(t)$ is distance. for a time delta between two times $t_2$ and $t_1$ with $t_1 < t_2$
$\textrm{displacement} = s(t_2) - s(t_1)$
riemann
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https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Factorial read this and you should be fine
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Can someone interpret this for me? Why's the result not directly e^3 and why's there no absolute value around k?
complex integration for wolfram.
In other words?
Yes
This is what I'd do: $\int_{k+1}^{2k} \frac{dx}{x-k} = \ln\abs{x-k}\Biggr|_{k+1}^{2k} = \ln\abs{k} = 3 \Rightarrow k = \pm e^{3}$
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I'm lost, what do you mean by Q?
Question prob
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Just need help figuring out 6 on this one
I understand the rest, just not sure how to get a manageable equation on 6
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How do you find the sum of a finite geometric sequence
Yeah
oh sigma notation kk
PapaBread
Sorry had y at the top instead of 7
How do I do it?
Hmm
Well multiplication distributes over addition
So you can pull that 4* right out
Im assuming that much makes sense?
If not I can explain it more
Would you take the 4^n-1 or the 4
Just the 4
Ok
Because theres still an n in the 4^(n-1)
Ok
Ok
Another step that might make it a tiny bit easier
How would you get rid of the -1 on the n?
Because if n = 1 like it says at the bottom, wouldn’t they cancel?
Oh I see what you mean
For the first term yeah absolutely
But Im talking more in terms of the entire sum
Because soon enough n will be 2
Then 3, 4, 5, 6, then finally 7
Where it wont cancel out
Square root?
