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warm shaleBOT
grave thistle
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nice

raven spire
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nvm smh, it's probably something to do with GCD(1+x1 , 1-x1) = (1+x1, 2) = {1, 2}

grave thistle
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yes yes

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absolutely

raven spire
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=.= you're mocking me

grave thistle
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sry

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im just so lost

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omgoodnees

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i think i might have found a way

raven spire
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DID YOU SOLVE IT?

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AAAAAAA

grave thistle
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IDK

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AAAAA

raven spire
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TELL MEEEE

grave thistle
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WAIT

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I COULD JUST BE MISTAKEN

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LEMME CHECK

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i have no idea how to verify this

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lemme try a smaller example with only x1 and x2

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OMG

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I THINK IT IS

raven spire
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WHAT

grave thistle
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for the smaller case at least

raven spire
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P = 1?

grave thistle
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AAAAAH

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idk

raven spire
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tell me already sad

grave thistle
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if i reduce the problem down to (1+x1)(1+x2)=(1-x1)(1-x2)=x

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i can prove that x1=-x2

raven spire
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yes

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ofc

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obv

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so? what next

grave thistle
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oh no

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NOOOO

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damnit

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i got to x1^2 = x2^2

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aaaaaaa

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buuut that still satisfies x1 = -x2

raven spire
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You don't mean x1 = -x9, x2 = -x8, x3 = -x7, x4 = -x6?

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and that'd imply x5 = 0?

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or something like that?

grave thistle
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yeah

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maybe

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aaaaaaa

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oh dear

raven spire
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,w solve (1+a)(1+b)(1+c)(1+d)(1+e) = (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)(1-d)(1-e) over integers

warm shaleBOT
grave thistle
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AAAA

raven spire
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,w solve (1+a)(1+b)(1+c) = (1-a)(1-b)(1-c) over integers

grave thistle
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ohh woow

raven spire
grave thistle
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yeah

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i was gonna

raven spire
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(1+x1)(1+x2)(1+x3) = (1-x1)(1-x2)(1-x3) hmmm

grave thistle
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hmmmm

raven spire
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and prove x2 must be zero or smth thinkies

grave thistle
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yeaaah

stable rose
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first of all, x1, x2 and x3 can't all have the same sign........

raven spire
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WAIT

grave thistle
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IM WAITING

raven spire
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YOUR QUESTION MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE

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=_=

grave thistle
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IDK

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DID YOU FIND A COUNTEREXAMPLE

raven spire
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x1 = 1, xn = -1 satisfies the question

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and x =0

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so P = 0

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pandaScreams aaaaaaaa but then again it's a particular case ;-;

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how to prove for geeeneral

grave thistle
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aaaaaaaaaaaaa

stable rose
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oof

raven spire
grave thistle
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cant believe this was for 9th grade exam takers

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t_t

stable rose
raven spire
stable rose
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but you can see that all the x1, x2,.... can't all have the same sign

raven spire
stable rose
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e.g. if they were all positive, then the absolute value of the product of (1+x1) etc is strictly larger than the absolute value of the product of (1-x1) etc

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so you can split up the x_i : some are positive, and some are negative..........

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i'm trying to see if there's some argument which makes the number of positive ones equal to the number of negative ones

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hmm, also the number of x_i which are negative has to be even

grave thistle
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fine

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im looking up the solution

stable rose
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go for it xD

raven spire
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I'm getting the polynomial vibes smh

grave thistle
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ok

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the ans was 0

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heh

stable rose
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actually, @grave thistle , in the case of two variables, how did you conclude that x1 = -x2 ?

grave thistle
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oh

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just

raven spire
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obv 😂 aren't we trying to prove?

grave thistle
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swap it out

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or you could do some

stable rose
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if you managed to do that, then you might be able to apply some kind of induction argument

grave thistle
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algebra stuff

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woah

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i think the ans is abt induction

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wait

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oh i forgot we have the least rigorous maths around here

stable rose
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lol it's okay

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i'm not fond of rigor myself........

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as long as it makes sense to me i'm good

grave thistle
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they had split it into 2 cases

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1st case is assume x1=x2=…=x9=0

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gosh i love this country

stable rose
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lol

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right, easy case covered. Next case?

grave thistle
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i have no idea

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ooh

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i get it

stable rose
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oohh I get it!!

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LOL

grave thistle
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woah

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were twins

stable rose
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IKR

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so with an odd number of x_i, if none of them are zero, then x^2 would be < 0

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cool

grave thistle
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t^t

stable rose
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now I can relax xD

grave thistle
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what a weird contradiction

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amber plaza
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If we have this, what is x/y equal to then?

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spiral maple
amber plaza
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There isn't a specific rule so I can express the sin x / sin y ?

high lily
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nope

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there isn't anything meaningful you can do with it

amber plaza
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k, ty

raven spire
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You were right about multiplying with conjugate smh, should've divided by x^2 instead of (conjugate)^2 = 1

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🥲

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worthy glacier
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help

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worthy glacier
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can someone explain this to me

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this is the answer

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but i dont really know

scarlet gale
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@worthy glacier When you see A = πr², each of the letters there is a variable. Variables are numbers we might not know just yet.

worthy glacier
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this in the question

scarlet gale
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So, A is the number that stands for the area the inside of the circle covers. r is the number that stands for the radius of the circle.

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Does that make sense so far?

worthy glacier
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yeah

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i think so

scarlet gale
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OK, so if we know the radius is 2, then we know that r is 2, since r is the number that's how big the radius is.

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If r is 2, we can replace it with 2.

worthy glacier
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so it would be

scarlet gale
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Any time we know that a variable is equal to something else, we can replace it with that something else.

worthy glacier
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π2²

drifting flax
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$4\pi$

scarlet gale
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A = πr²
A = π(2)²

warm shaleBOT
scarlet gale
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Exactly.

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It's π times 2².

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Which is 4π.

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Does it make sense how we got there?

worthy glacier
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what would π mean

royal basin
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pi is pi

drifting flax
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$\pi = 3.14......$

warm shaleBOT
scarlet gale
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π is a special number called pi, pronounced like the pie that you eat.

worthy glacier
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alr

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ok

scarlet gale
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It starts off with 3.14 and goes on with a bunch more digits.

balmy mortar
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its roughly 3.14

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thats all u need to know for now probably

scarlet gale
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So, it's about 4 times 3.14.

worthy glacier
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i just figured it out

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ty

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thanks so much

scarlet gale
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You're welcome.

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No problem.

worthy glacier
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wait

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so @scarlet gale

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would i just have to mulyiply 3.14 by the r

scarlet gale
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Almost.

worthy glacier
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twice?

scarlet gale
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Yes, exactly.

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r² has the exponent 2.

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That means r multiplied by itself 2 times.

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r² = r × r
r³ = r × r × r
r¹⁰ = r × r × r × r × r × r × r × r × r × r

worthy glacier
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wait

scarlet gale
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The exponent tells how many times to multiply the base by itself.

worthy glacier
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how would i do this

scarlet gale
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OK, so first you write the formula for circle area.

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A = πr²

worthy glacier
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there is no circle

scarlet gale
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There is in the words there. It's just not drawn maybe.

worthy glacier
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ok

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would 6 milimetres be the same as how i did before

scarlet gale
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Yes.

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A = πr²

The radius is 6mm long, and r is the number that's how long the radius is, so we fill in r with 6mm.

A = π(6mm)²

worthy glacier
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i understandd it now omg

scarlet gale
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Now, there's a bit of a hard thing here.

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The 6 gets squared AND the millimeters gets squared.

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Because you're squaring the entire r number.

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So, you get:

A = 36 · 3.14 mm²

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And you get some number of square millimeters.

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mm² is said out loud "square millimeters".

worthy glacier
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ohhhh ok

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how would i do

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i understand r

scarlet gale
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OK, now you need to know a little geometry to do that.

worthy glacier
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how would i do d

scarlet gale
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D is the diameter.

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The diameter is just twice the radius.

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Like the radius goes halfway through the circle.

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The diameter goes ALL the way through the circle (through its center).

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So, the diameter is twice as long because it's like two radiuses stuck together, one going one way from the center and one going the other way from the center.

worthy glacier
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oh ok

scarlet gale
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You can see that in the picture. There are two radiuses that start at the center and go to the edge of the circle stuck together to make that diameter.

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So, we can say that the diameter is 2 times the radius in a formula.

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D = 2r

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Then we just fill in D.

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And we can use algebra to get r.

worthy glacier
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thr r would be

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17?

scarlet gale
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Right, but 17 cm.

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Now you know r and you can use that to get A.

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A = πr²
A = π(17 cm)²

worthy glacier
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so how would i calculate the answer

scarlet gale
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Well, you would do the squaring.

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What do you get from that?

worthy glacier
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squaring

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?

scarlet gale
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That means the ² there.

worthy glacier
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oh

worthy glacier
scarlet gale
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² can be said "to the second power" or "squared".
³ can be said "cubed".
There are no other nice names for powers, they're just "to the whatever number power".

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Almost.

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Squaring doesn't mean multiplying by 2.

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When you have an exponent, here's how you do it.

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17²

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So, you write 17 two times because the exponent is 2.

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17 · 17

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If it was 17¹⁰⁰, you'd write 17 a hundred times and multiply all those together.

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But it's only 17² here, so you only write it twice.

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17 · 17

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And then you multiply them together.

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Does that make sense?

worthy glacier
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oh yeah

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the answer would be 901.18?

scarlet gale
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Almost.

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How did you get 901.18?

worthy glacier
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wait

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i think i calcd it wrong

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Am I right? I think it is wrong though I am thinking if the input should be B0(no button press), P0(No presence of people), B1(button pressed) and P1(presence of people).

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shy cedar
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help me

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em this channel is occupied

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oh, umm ok

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go to channel help 13 i will help you there

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can anyone help setting up the bounds for this integral?

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im clueless for this one

tardy epoch
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draw a picture?

grand depot
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with radius 1

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and height 1

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but stil

tardy epoch
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not a cone

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have you set up an integral?

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tulip plinth
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can somebody help me with this

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short spruce
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note that $a^b\cdot a^c=a^{b+c}$

warm shaleBOT
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a disappointing son

tulip plinth
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what

short spruce
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exponent rule

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apply it

tulip plinth
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ok i wrote it

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ty for nothing

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lmfao

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if you expect someone to do it for you, not the server for that

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Am I aloud to get help on like 10-15 homework questions

unique solstice
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I mean you should be able to figure out the rest if youre learning from 1 or 2 problems

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Unless theyre all completely different

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high lily
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perhaps start by posting one of the problems

noble jetty
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Oh ok

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Is it ok if I start sending them in like 30 minutes

spiral maple
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why did you ask now then?

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but sure, just close the channel

noble jetty
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Bc I was gonna close the channel but can’t only the bot close the channel when you react to it which is like every 30 min

high lily
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why the delay though

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supposedly you already had the questions 30 minutes ago

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I got in the middle of something

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And plus I assumed the answer would have been no

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you can close the channel with
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Alr

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tawdry vortex
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i need help

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tawdry vortex
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ik what to do for the first derivative but dont know the second

clear sonnet
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Correct me if im wrong, but basicly you should state if the pitch of the graph y(x) is positiv or negativ. Or if its uphil or downhill.

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do you say pitch?

tawdry vortex
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havnt heard anyone say that but idk

tawdry vortex
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for the first derivative

clear sonnet
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exactly

tawdry vortex
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since thats the gradient

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but idk about the second derivative

clear sonnet
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Oh ok, so what you do is, you try to map the y'(x) graph. It doesnt matter where exactly to put the points on the y coordinates but at the same x coordinate. You try to do it relative to the other gradients. If you do that you will be able to map the second graph and itll be easy for you to also state its gradients.

tawdry vortex
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let me try drawing it

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Like this?

clear sonnet
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Well yeah but try to make curves as the gradient doesnt just switches.

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like this:

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but wait. did you try to draw the first derivate from the task ?

tawdry vortex
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i didnt cause it doesnt mention to draw it in the question

clear sonnet
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ok good.

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so the "pitch" of the graph doesnt just change as it rounds itself out. if you know what i mean.

tawdry vortex
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ah ok

high lily
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consider concavity and inflection points for the sign of the second derivative

tawdry vortex
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oh i think i got it

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for point a since its shaped like a positive parabola, it second derivative will be a diagonal line

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making it a positive

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right?

clear sonnet
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i am not entirely sure but if i get what ur saying yes

tawdry vortex
clear sonnet
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if you compare to parabola, yes but that wont work for the other points. So what you do by drawing the first derivative, you will be able to just see the 2nd derivative.

tawdry vortex
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First derivative sketch, is it right?

clear sonnet
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mines the same :)

tawdry vortex
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Nice, so what about the second derivative

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Wait nvm

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That’s the only sketch u need

clear sonnet
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Exactly

tawdry vortex
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Alr I got it

clear sonnet
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Lets say y'(x)=f(x) then y''(x)=f'(x)

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Same thing again

tawdry vortex
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So if a normal function is a cubic

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It’s first Derivative will be a parabola

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And it’s second is just a line

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Thanks for ur help!

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I need help with some problomes sorry!

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I think it's C but am not sure.

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gritty musk
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sounds rather simple

balmy mortar
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Pretty sure you explain why

gritty musk
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So

balmy mortar
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rather than giving the answer

gritty musk
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alright, i am quite new here, ty for helping me out

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lets have an example

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x(y+z)

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by "distributing" the x or multiply the x times y and z you will get xy+xz

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this should help:

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if anything

jolly reef
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I don't care to be honest I am so thankfull for the help!

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lol alr thats what i thought

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then the guy told me to explain.-,

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anyways have a good day/night

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❤️

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peace

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cerulean bear
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When factoring perfect squares, why use the perfect square method in place of the product sum method when both yield the same answer when factoring?

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nocturne minnow
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You can do product sum, but if you can identify that it's a perfect square, then you just do $$\left(\sqrt{a} + \sqrt{c}\right)^2$$

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dldh06

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can someone confirm for me that raising a fraction to a negative power is the same as raising its reciprocal to the positive version of the power ?

pulsar grail
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Today in 8th grade math my teacher said that the sqaure root of 0.4 repeating wasn't 0.2 repeating how???

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it really hurts my brain

spiral maple
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just a^-n=1/a^n

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urban frigate
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whats 2 times 0.5?

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its obviously one

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remember, if u multiply some number x by a number less than one and more than 0, you are actually making x smaller

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0.2 repeating times 2 is .4 repeating

0.2 repeating times 0.2 repeating is NOT .4 repeating

its closer to 0.049382716

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the square root of .4 repeating is .6 repeating, since when u multiply by .6 repeating you get 1 third, and 1 third of .6 repeating is obviously .4 repeating

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Hello , I need help with this question

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Q7

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Here’s what I tried so far

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(a,b) meaning gcd?

timid silo
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I started with assuming (a+bx,c) = d for some d>1

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Yes

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@brave bramble should I post a picture of what I tried so far

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This is what I did so far

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Leading from my assumption (d,b)=1

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But how to proceed from there I’m not so sure

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I used Bezouts theorem here

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But I don’t think it’s a generalised case

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X here is any integer

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No x merely exists. Most choices don't work.

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With that in mind, you can put any rules on x you want, as long as such an x exists by the end

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Hmm

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Hi

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i need help with polynomials

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do you know what degree 5 means

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no not really

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or wait

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would it be 5x5y3?

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would the answer be 5?

brittle swan
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do you know the difference between coeffcient and variable?

timid silo
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yes

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alright so

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lets talk about degree of a term

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basically, we add the exponents of all the variables of a term together

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to get degree of a term

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for example, $6x^2y^3$

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Chromium

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its degree is 5, because the variables are x and y, and adding their powers tgt we get 5

timid silo
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ohhhhhh

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so it would be 2?

brittle swan
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polynomials are just sums of multiple terms

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those terms have different degrees

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deg of a polynomial is just the biggest of them

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could you help with another one please?

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sure

timid silo
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standard form means descending power

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so $x + x^2$ is not standard form

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Chromium

brittle swan
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and $x^3 + xy + 1$ is

warm shaleBOT
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Chromium

timid silo
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oh wait

brittle swan
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sorry

timid silo
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so i thought the answer would be $6^3$

warm shaleBOT
timid silo
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but that cant be right

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im so confused

brittle swan
timid silo
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no

brittle swan
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a polynomial is in standard form

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if and only if

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all terms are arranged in descending order of power

brittle swan
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which is not desending

brittle swan
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which is indeed descending

timid silo
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ok

brittle swan
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so you check which one is arranged in descending orders of power

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which is standard form

timid silo
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3, 2, 0 sorry

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now constants have order 0

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and $x^3, xy$ have orders $3, 2$ respectively

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Chromium

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do you understadnd?

timid silo
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oh ok

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yes

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i thought it would be the first option but it says thats wrong

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so would it be the second one?

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or no it would be the 3rd one

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<@&286206848099549185>

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<@&286206848099549185>

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dont tag helpers twice

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ok sorry

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so would it be the 3rd option?

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no

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im still confused then

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How do I write an exponential function for a graph that passes through the points (2,16),(3,32)?

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f(x)=a^x

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why is it +1?

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final citrus
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im thinking that u=e^x

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Because in the original qn there's a +1

final citrus
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oh wait no

final citrus
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shouldnt it be 1/u then

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because u*1/u = 1

ionic heart
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No I think there shouldn't be a u before the brackets

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oh i get it now. du = udx so dx = du/u

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nvm thanks anyway

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Ooh I've seen it

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but i did something else

junior inlet
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i think it's supposed to be like ax^2+bx+c

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not vertex form

wooden solstice
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yeahh thats what they said

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how can i change it to standard tho

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from their given equations, you can move the term with y to RHS (x for c and d)

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wooden solstice
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how

tardy epoch
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The unfortunate thing is it's closer to standard form in the start than your answers.

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For a, maybe it's better to start all over so that you can more easily solve for y

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cause i have to pass my hw like at 5 hours from now

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i guess

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And can you multiply or divide by a number to make y by itself?

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<@&286206848099549185>

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the image is too small and blurry

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$\frac{\sqrt{52.29} - \sqrt{5.29}}{\sqrt{52.29} + \sqrt{5.29}}$

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kirby your mom

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yeah

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Rationalisation would be the first thing to do here

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what would it be I actually gotta check my answer

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Use a calculator?

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Just a little dumb question: Is the value of 1/1 + 4/9 + 5/90 rounded up or down?

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1.5 is rounded up.

stable heron
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Sure, but technically it's 1.499... you know

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Is there a rule to that?

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1.4999... = 1.5

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If you work out the fractions algebraically, you'll get 3/2

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Can anyone provide an example of a function that is a bijection such that f(x) != x but f^n(x) = x where f^n is function composition

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<@&286206848099549185> ?

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And f must be from an infinite set to the same infinite set

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$f: \bR \to \bR$ given by $f(x) = \begin{cases} x+1 & x \in {0, 1, \dots, n-2} \ 0 & x = n-1 \ x & \text{otherwise}\end{cases}$

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Can I convert kVArh to kWh?

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what's kVArh?

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If you knew the efficiency

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These polygons are so confusing

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Krista launches her model rocket in a completion. Currently the record to beat is 125m in height reached by the rocket. Krista's rocket launch can be modelled by the equation

h(t) = -4t2 + 12t + 112.

Where h(t) is he height in meters, of the rocket and t is the time, in seconds.

a. Does Krista win the rocket launch completion?

b. After how long does Krista's rocket reach maximum height?

c. In order to land safely, the rocket must land within 8 seconds. Krista said the rocket was successful because it landed in 7 seconds. Prove mathematically that Krista's rocket landed in 7 seconds.

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need help wit it

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Does it not give you any time?

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You can solve for t

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That’s true

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hi

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i need help

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That's one of the simplest proves they could ask you for tho sully

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the majority of the work has already
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what's your issue with it

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Well this is very easy then.

timid silo
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i do not like proofs.

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and it hurts my brain.

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because this class is hard and i hate the hw.

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That's geometry

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But besides that

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what is the issue

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What do you not understand specifically

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all of it ;-;

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i got the first one

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that's not all of it

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okay

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don't exaggerate

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did you get the second one?

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silence

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hi there, this is about chemistry. I'm simply trying to understand the idea of solute concentration in a solution. Specifically w/w w/v v/v

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from what I understand, you have your solute in either grams of weight/mass or the volume ml

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same goes for the solution

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and some % of that solution is made up of said solute

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now how do I properly calculate this myself

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if it's gonna be a % then the number 100 is involved so we either multiply or divide by it somewhere

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I could use some help

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timid silo
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yes

tiny rivet
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So total mass is 200g?

timid silo
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yes

tiny rivet
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Isn’t solute concentration defined as the amount of solute in a volume ?

timid silo
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how much of that solute exists in a certain amount of the solution

tiny rivet
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So it would seem to be something like 40/200?

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That is the mass is solute/ total mass of solution

timid silo
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so i just divide the solute into the solution?

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nothing else needed?

tiny rivet
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I don’t do chemistry so I’m not totally sure

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If you had the concentration

timid silo
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yeah Jesse, we cannot cook like this

tiny rivet
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Could you then use it to find the amount of solute in 5G of the solution or something

timid silo
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this is going to be a mess

tiny rivet
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It seems like from a google that solute concentration refers to the mass of a solute dissolved in a volume of solution

timid silo
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to find a percentage you would need to divide or multiply it with 100 somehow though

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otherwise you would get unstable results

tiny rivet
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Yes a percentage is times 100

timid silo
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(100*40)/200 lol idk

unique solstice
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I think there's actually 160g total

timid silo
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well you could see it that way too

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and 40g of that is the solute

unique solstice
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msolution = 160 g
msolute = 40 g
msolvent 120 g

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Unless it's mislabeled

timid silo
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no that's about right

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could you enlighten me?

unique solstice
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The solution represents everything

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Solute and solvent

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So you'd divide by 160 g

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The solute is already a part of the 160 g if it's labeled right

timid silo
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well it is labeled right, now

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it's not a real problem, i just came up with it on the spot

unique solstice
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Oh

timid silo
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okay, I'm supposed to divide the solute by the solution then

unique solstice
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Ye

timid silo
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so 160/40

unique solstice
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Other way

timid silo
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oh

unique solstice
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Because you want a number less than 1

timid silo
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so you get floating point

unique solstice
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Ye

timid silo
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but why

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oh wait

unique solstice
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Because you can't have a solution that's 120% solute

timid silo
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i get it

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how much of the whole solution fits in the solute

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that's what is being said here

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and it's always going to be the part of the solution which is the solute

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you can't have anything else

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that's perfect, thank you

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does anything change once we move on from grams to volume?

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like if the solution or maybe the solute was in ml instead of g

unique solstice
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Wait actually

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All of this would depend on how you wanna measure concentration

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I think typically you'd measure it using moles

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Though ig you could use percent by mass or volume

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So it'd all depend

timid silo
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im trying to do that rn

unique solstice
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If it's still just percent it's the same

timid silo
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%w/w %w/v and %v/v

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they're the easier ones to start with

unique solstice
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Is w representing mass?

timid silo
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yes

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weight/mass

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in chemistry it's used interchangeably as far as i know

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so you're supposed to calculate concentration with both volume and mass

unique solstice
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Yeah that'd be the molar way I think

timid silo
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huh

unique solstice
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Since molar concentration is moles per liter

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I guess it's not technically mass but it's close enough

timid silo
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oh no Jesse

unique solstice
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I've never liked chemistry

timid silo
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i mean it's not bad

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it's just taught boringly

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you could make sugar rockets with... well, sugar and potassium nitrate

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super powerful and explosive and anti-finger

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either way im not making any sense through this

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Why is an empty set the subset of all sets?

Most of the proofs I have looked at utilise the concept of vacuous truth, a concept that I haven't been able to grasp yet.

One proof I looked at went along the lines of:
"You have 5 objects and take it way, then you are left with nothing/it is empty, you have zero objects which is what an empty set is. A|A=Empty set "

By that resemblence of numbers and sets, we don't say that "Every number contains no number/has zero"
Also, when you say something is a subset of something else, then that subset is present within the other set ie. A{x-> Positive integer set, x>=5} ={Empty set,0,1,2,3,4,5}
So if you removed a set from itself, you would be removing the "empty set" itself, which is nonsensical.

spiral maple
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then that means there exists an element in {} not in A

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Contradiction.

balmy mortar
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Definition of subset:

$$A\subseteq B:= (\forall a\in A)(a\in B)$$

spiral maple
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Was waiting for them to respond.

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Shuri2060

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unique merlin
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Let us take a random set A

spiral maple
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random non-empty set A*

unique merlin
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When we assume that the empty set is not a subset, this means that the content of the empty set is not in A

balmy mortar
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'there is something in the empty set that is not in A'

spiral maple
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If we assume {} is not a subset, then that means {} has something not in A

unique merlin
spiral maple
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ie {} is non-empty

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For example:

{1,2} is a subset of {1,2,3} cause every element of the 1st is in the 2nd

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However, {1,2,3} is not a subset of {1,2} because 3 is in the 1st but not in the 2nd

unique merlin
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But doesn't the empty set have no elements in the first place?

I don't think I understand what an empty set means in the first place then.

balmy mortar
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You assumed {} is not a subset of A
And reached a contradiction.

spiral maple
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it's the set with no elements

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In our universe of discourse, {} is either a subset or a superset of A

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we assumed not a subset, so we suppose {} is a superset of A

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to which bullshit b/c A is not a subset of {}

unique merlin
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Still nothing

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Example. A={1,2,3}
For {} to not be a subset, it must have an element which is not in A
But if {} has no elements in the first place, how can it be a subset?

Taking the opposite, let {} not be a subset of A
This means that {} has an element that is not in A
But since {} has no elements, it's impossible for the above assumption to hold, hence proven.

It seems that the contradiction forces the axiom to be true, without stating why it should be so.

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@unique merlin
'But if {} has no elements in the first place, how can it be a subset?'

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Where are you coming from with this.

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Perhaps we should agree on the definition of 'subset' first

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before going any further

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'If A is a subset of B, then for each element x of A, x is an element of B'

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Also, what axiom are you referring to?

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For {} to not be a subset, it must have an element which is not in A
Yes, that's the point

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i'm just.. totally lost. help appreciated!

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I want to calculate the dimension of U
however the triplet (u1, u2, u3) is not a basis, because they are linearly dependent
Could someone give me input on this?

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V = Q^4 (Q = fractions)

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I've calculated rref:
1 2 3
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0

hazy marlin
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teal sleet
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yes

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great, so the vector corresponding to the first column, will form a basis to U

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In general, when you're looking for a basis , and you align your spanning vectors in columns then once you've achieved the rref form, then your pivots will indicate which of the vectors will form a basis

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however .. are you sure about your result?

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it seems to me that there are 2 vectors here that form a bsis

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since u3 is linearly dependant on u1 and u2 (check 2*u2-u1)

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1 3 5
0 4 8
1 2 3
2 1 0
----------- 1-3, 4-3
0 1 2
0 4 8
1 2 3
0 -3 - 6
----------- 2+4
0 1 2
0 4 8
1 2 3
0 1 2

hazy marlin
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that will give you 2 pivots

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+1 for the effort of writing that out lol

teal sleet
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so V is dim 4 and U is dim 2?

hazy marlin
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yea

teal sleet
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gotcha

hazy marlin
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do you understand how to pick your basis tho

teal sleet
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mom

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teal sleet
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@hazy marlin
v1 = 1, -1, 1, 0
v2 = 0 0 0 1

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?

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teal sleet
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x1= x3
x2 = -2x3

x3
-2x3
x3

a *(1, -2, 1)

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i think I lost you bruv

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what are you attempting to do now?

teal sleet
hazy marlin
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and your final result ?

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your final result is the solution vector (1,-2,1) ?

teal sleet
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x3
-2x3
x3

a *(1, -2, 1)

hazy marlin
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okay

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what does the final result tell you?

teal sleet
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that the dimension is 1 not 2?

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since dimK (V ) = dim(V ) := n ?

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with (v1 , . . . , vn) basis of V

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Okay First of

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When you're trying to find a basis out of spanning vectors

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you're not solving a linear map

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you're performing row reduction on them to see if they're linearly independent

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the solution vector you found is some random kernel for some linear transformation defined by the column vectors u1,u2,u3 which has no relevance to the question

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all you had to do , is find out which columns have pivots, and pick the vectors corresponding to those columns

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say you got a pivot in first column and you placed u1 in that column, u1 will be in your basis

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the other approach, was to align your vectors as rows , bringing your matrix to it's rref , and thus discovering a set of linear independent vectors that will form a basis to your subspace

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@teal sleet

teal sleet
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was to align your vectors as rows oh

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No it doesn't really matter

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either method works

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it's just the conclusion from the methods are different

teal sleet
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ok thanks

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sure

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but do you understand the difference?

teal sleet
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yeah 1) taking trivial vectors out
or 2) calculate a new set

hazy marlin
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yea pretty much

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column alignment lets you know which vectors to take out and which to take in

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row alignment gives you a new set of vectors that form basis

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:)

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Alright
thanks again
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need help with 7. A ball is shot into the air. Its height h, in metres, after t seconds is modeled by .
h= -4.9t^2 + 30t + 1.6
a) How long will it take the ball to reach a height of 35 m?

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well this is what i have so far

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35=-4.9T^2 + 30 t + 1.6
0= -4.9T^2 + 30 t + 1.6 – 35
0= -4.9t^2 + 30t -33.4 -4.9 √’-4.9^2 – 4 (30)(-33.4) / 2 (30)

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can you let me know if thats right?

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looks like the right method, but i'm not gonna check your algebra

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yea

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That's wrong

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You know the quadratic equation is $$x_{1,2} = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a}$$

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yes

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4.9 +-√’-4.9^2 – 4 (30)(-33.4) / 2 (30)

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this is wrong?

nocturne minnow
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Yes

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What is the a term, b term, and c term in that equation you have?

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wait b is suppose to be 30

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and a -4.9

nocturne minnow
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So if a = -4.9 then why is your 2a, 2(-4.9)?

elfin ferry
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i dont really know hwat you mean sorry

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You plugged in the numbers wrong

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$$\frac{4.9 \pm \sqrt{-4.9^{2} – 4 (30)(-33.4) }}{2 (30)}$$

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That is your statement there

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dldh06

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So your denominator is 2a, according to the formula, meaning that you said a = 30

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Do you see the mistake I am pointing out?

elfin ferry
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yes

nocturne minnow
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So then that means you need to fix that and write the proper equation

elfin ferry
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but 30 is supose to be <b> ??

nocturne minnow
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Yes b = 30

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But as I said, you did 2(30)

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Meaning you said a = 30

elfin ferry
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ohhhh yesss ok

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so it should be like 30 √’-30 – 4 (-4.9)(-33.4) / 2 (-4.9)

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Still didn't apply the formula correctly

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$$x_{1,2} = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a}$$

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dldh06

nocturne minnow
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Here is the formula again, plug in a, b, and c

elfin ferry
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x = -30 +-√ 30 - 4 (-4.9) (-33.4) / 2 (-4.9) i dont know man i think tahts still wrong,....

nocturne minnow
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That's right, you just need the squared part

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Because b^2

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b^2 - 4ac

elfin ferry
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oh yes ok

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so once i have that forrmular then what would i do?

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to find how long will it take the ball to reach a height of 35 m

nocturne minnow
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You do math

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Simplify that

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$$x_{1,2}=\frac{-30 \pm \sqrt{30^{2} - 4 (-4.9)(-33.4) }}{2 (-4.9)}$$

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dldh06

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A number consists of 3 digits. The sum of the digits is 15. The sum of the outer digits is double the middle one. The difference of that number with that number read in reverse is 396. Find that number.

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I need to solve this questian with the gauss jordan method but i am stuck because i cant seem to figure out where to start

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how can i get the quotient?

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Dividing complex numbers is mathematically similar to the division of two real numbers. We need to find a term by which we can multiply the numerator and the denominator that will eliminate the imaginary part of the denominator so that we end up with a real number in the denominator.

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Hi there, I'm stuck on this problem. I have utterly no idea how to solve it. Its the very last question. Underneath the graphs

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Honestly, this isn't even my hw problem. I'm just trying to figure it out, and idk how to maximize dimensions. I never learned that in pre-calc. I got the function to be f(x)=x^2(72-4x)

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Since x is between 0 and 18, would it just be 9? Since f(9)=max val

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The textbook offers no help whatsoever, it labels this as geometry and thats it. I would super appreciate the help

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I'm doing this google foobar challenge and at the end I need to reduce multiple fractions that all have the same denumerator. After reducing the fractions should have the same smaller denumerator as well. Example: 6/28, 4/28, 18/28. becomes 3/14, 2/14, 9/14. I know how to reduce a single fraction say 4/28 becomes 1/7. But I'm stumped trying to reduce more than one because 4/28 in this case would need to be 2/14. How do I do this?

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help pls

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tall flint
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probability (A) = 0.6
probability (B) = 0.8
probability (A & B) = ?

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how do dis

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If not, there's not enough info to find P(A & B)

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Can't we multiply both of them.

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If they are exclusive events that is.

tall flint
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This @raven spire

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P(B|A)xP(A)

tall flint
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Question 3

raven spire
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Yeah so $P(B|A)$ given here right

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raven spire
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Use the formula for P(B|A) to determine the answer

tall flint
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What is that formula

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P(B|A)=P(A and B)/P(A).

tall flint
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Me no understand that formula

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and maybe the articles surrounding the formula as well.. Would help