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Average Maths Student
5/5+4
Because the negative exponents have the switch to the opposite side of the fraction
So like the botton five moves to the top
And the top one moves to the bottom
So you are saying $\frac{5^{-1}}{5^{-1}+4}=\frac{5}{5+4}$ is true?
Average Maths Student
Well yeah that's what I'm saying - it's false
It's false because you can't swap it like that
These are the index laws
You can see on the top right rule, you have the so called 'swapping rule' for negative indices
Yeah Ik all of those
Notice how the swapping rule only applies when a^-m is by itself.
Yeah but like my teacher taught it to me so that when say 7^-1 is over 4^-1 it becomes 4/7
That's fine
Si what's the difference
Because there's no addition sign anywhere in your sentence
There's no addition sign - it's just division
But if you look here
There is an addition sign
What does the addition sign do then
It's 5^-1 + 4
It changes the denominator completely, it means you can't apply that rule
In general, once you see an addition sign in a fraction, there are so many things you can no longer do
anyways
To circumvent this issue
Yeah as I was saying earlier it becomes like 1/5+4=4/1
Which isn't the same as 5/1
nooo this is not true 😭
Why?
Result:
4.2
Result:
4
Ik 4/1 =4
Yeah
So you should know that 1/5 + 4 is not 4
What did you do to get one into the other
Which as I was saying earlier is non compatible with 1/5
oof lol
It's 4am
Get some sleep
tell me what you have right now
As in
[ \frac{5^{-1}}{5^{-1}+4}= ] What changes did you make to this fraction?
Average Maths Student
(5/5+4)-(5^-1/21/5)
okay yep
Let's keep working on the second fraction
How would you simplify it even further?
1/5 times 21/5?
Imeant 5
I meant like 1 over all that
Not 1/5
Mb
I meant 1 over 5 times 21/5
Yep
Do I really have to multiple 9 by 21 amd 21 by 9?
Well
You could
You could also recognise that 21 and 9 are a very interesting set of numbers
Divisibke by 3?
Yep!
How does that help?
What's 21 divided by 3
Do you mean multiple them both by 3?
But 3 and 7 can't work
What's 21 times 3?
WHAT
I said multiply by 3
They're the same number
no
You don't multiply by 3
Because 9 times 3 is 27
And 21 times 3 is 63
Here they actually are different numbers
I'm so confused
How does diciding by 3 help?
Cause like then I have to divide 5 by 3
wait wait wait
Let's backtrack
We have
5/9 - 1/21
We want to just subtract the two fractions
Yeah
The denominators have to be the same
Multiply each side by the others denominator
Yes you could but that could be very annoying
So instead
Can you think of a smaller number to multiply each fraction by?
No
really?
Yeah
Not after seeing this
Or this?
Yep
okay fine 😭
That made no sense to me sorry man
I want you to do something then for me
Nah you're good
5/9 - 1/21
What happens if you multiply the first fraction by 7/7?
What do you get?
Perfect
Can you tell me what happens when you multiply the second fraction by 3/3?
Yess so the idea is
We actually found a pair of numbers
That multiply to a certain product
That is, 9 times 7 is 63
and 21 times 3 is 63 too
So all we need to do is multiply the corresponding fractions together
I understand
This works because you already showed that 9 and 21 have a common factor of 3
So you just need to multiply that other smaller number
If they're both divisble by a number then you do funny thing my sleepless brain can't explain at the current moment and then boom
I mean nothing wrong with doing 21 * 9
Yeah good enough for me
Like those 2 numbers that you divide by are the 2 numbers you multiply by
Or technically 1 number you divide by
So now then we have 32/63
But the answer is 32
So like
Huh?
@vestal steppe
Ohhhhhhh
Thank you
Thanks for putting up with my tired ah brain
See you around
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Nah you're chill
Good work!
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I haven't worked with inverse trig much, but would reccomend taking tan() of both sides
that's it basically
than and iff at eveyr step and mention you're working on the princiapl branch
Also you can set x and y appropriately as given above, and then find values of A and B in terms of x and y
ahh
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can someone do this for me
guys?
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lemme think
I also did till the partial fractions part
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but my question was not resolved
Have you passed 1st grade?
bruh what?
anyways , lemme think
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honestly this is probably calling for a. trig sub or something
I did till the partial fraction part
but dont know how to proceed after that
I just realised
try and find a pattern
let n = 1, n = 2, n=3… etc
wait what
Oh wait it is
had to be, looks too complicated to be solved otherwise
wait what 😭
is it not a telescoping series
It is a telescoping series
Wait i just got it
U can use the function f(n)=1/nsquaredplus 1
ok guys ty for da help i got it
soo how do i close this?
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it says "solve"
looks like "Los op" translates to "solve for"
yeah
What are you stuck on
i cant know where to start
Try find the equations for f, g and h
yea ok, ik, but how
is this for an exam
U can take points on the graph and form an equation
you're given the graphs
im late
find the slope and y-int and put it in form y=mx+b, or find slope and pick a point to put it in point-slope form
if it says both things are equal, it means that you're in both graphs at the same time
Think that's against the rules...
I think we don't really need to in this case
if it says a>b, it means a is above b
no, helping with homework is completely fine
yeah ok, what should i write
idth homework is
Good point
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Mb
nw, actually that is mainly what the channels are for 
you should not write anything until you understand what you're doing, for a start
ok
start with (a). Do they ask for an equality, or an inequality?
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inequality
cuz its =
wait
no equality
mb
.
so look at the graphs of f and h. Is there any point where you can be on both at the same time?
yeah
where
(4.7)
oh i should write (4.7)
dont you guys use a comma?
no
should be (4, 7) or (4; 7) usually
ok
are you sure it's not a comma?
yea it is
its with comma
mb
and what about b, it says h > g
it can be infinity
uh
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Hello. Whats the integral of ${(x^4+1)}^\frac{1}{4}$
-TimeLord-
$$\int \frac{1}{\left(x^4+1\right)^{1/4}} \dd{x}=\int \frac{1}{x \left(1+\frac{1}{x^4} \right)^{1/4}} \dd{x}$$
should do something.
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Further hint: ||1/x = x^4/x^5||
dividing by the highest power is a common trick
Really? I had no idea uptil now
(This isn't sarcastic)
is it u sub after or what?
I took u as 1/x^4
yes it's just a substitution
ah yeah makes sense
yeah, or 1 + 1/x^4

Wait a minute... if I didnt do anything wrong, im getting -w^2/(w^4-1). I did this before but I completely forgot how
Wait 1 min
Im dumb
mhm that's good so far
is it ||trig sub? w^2 = sec(theta)???||
Try it.
ukw sure
It is i tried
oh alr
ohhh yeah
$$-\frac{1}{2} \int \frac{1}{x^2+1} \dd{x}-\frac{1}{2} \int \frac{1}{x^2-1} \dd{x}$$
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and atp it's trivial
Oh no no I mean trig sub after partial fractions
oh
yeah i think u could still do it before idk fs tho
Wait a minute
these are integrals that are not unreasonable to have learnt off tbf
How did you get this?
Liek x/(x^2-1)
I replaced x^2 with x for convenience
just in case wolfram would give me some crazy stuff with the x^4-1 factorisation
though you can do it in your head in 1-2 lines tbf
I'm just lazy

Ye prob
I did partial fractions and then did trig sub
And I got the answer
nice nice
I meant I got some thing but it waybis to a huge answer in terms of ln
$$\frac{x^2}{(1-x^2)(1+x^2)}=\frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{(1+x^2)-(1-x^2)}{(1+x^2)(1-x^2)}$$
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Where u getting ln from?
I substitute u=1+x^(-4)
u can pfd 1/(x^2-1) and that will yield ln
Technically you get x^2/(x^2-1)
u could split into 1 + 1/(x^2 - 1)
Kk
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Im currently stuck on A(II). I understand the steps toward u2/u1 giving me 16/20 and whatnot leading to 4/5sin^2pheta, but now i get confused when finding the possible ranges.
Am i supposed to learn that pheta not equaling pi automates it to zero? Why am i supposed to multiply it by 4/5
you need to find the possible values of $r$, so you just need to look at the boundaries of the function $\sin^2 \theta$ within your given domain
thecrumbeler2
basically in the range $0 < \theta < 2\pi$, the value of $\sin \theta$ is usually $0$ at $\theta = \pi$
thecrumbeler2
so cause the problem says $\theta$ cannot be $\pi$ (and it’s also restricted from being $0$ or $2\pi$ by the inequalities), $\sin \theta$ can never actually reach $0$
thecrumbeler2
meaning that $\sin^2 \theta$ is always greater than $0$
thecrumbeler2
the highest value $\sin \theta$ can reach is $1$ (at $\frac{\pi}{2}$) or $-1$ (at $\frac{3\pi}{2}$)
thecrumbeler2
when you square these, you get 1
meaning $\sin^2 \theta$ is less than or equal to $1$
thecrumbeler2
u already found that $r = \frac{4}{5} \sin^2 \theta$
thecrumbeler2
so to find the range for $r$, you gotta apply that same $\frac{4}{5}$ multiplier to the boundaries of $\sin^2 \theta$
thecrumbeler2
basically:
Lowest value: $\frac{4}{5} \times (\text{slightly more than } 0) = \text{slightly more than } 0$
\Highest value: $\frac{4}{5} \times (1) = \frac{4}{5}$
thecrumbeler2
and you just end up with $0 < r \leq \frac{4}{5}$
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assume your polynomial is indeed larger than 0
and evaluate it at x = 1 and x = -1
what conditions do you get on a?
oh ty
my hint is not enough to conclude you'll still have to think a bit, but you're welcome
no
exactly, so it's (A) or (B)
hmm
the last thing you need to find is if a = 38 works or not
if it works it's B, otherwise it's A
Well if you group some of the terms, you can write the polynomial as:
$x^3\left(x^3+\frac{1}{x^3}\right)-6x^3\left(x^2+\frac{1}{x^2}\right)+12x^3\left(x+\frac{1}{x}\right)+ax^3 \geq 0$
Sarin
oh
If you let $t = x+1/x$, $x^2+1/x^2 = t^2-2$, $x^3+1/x^3=t^3-3t$. \\
$\implies x^3(t^3-3t-6t^2+12t+a) \geq 0$
Sarin
Not sure about what you can do after this though without using calculus
I think you can factor the polynomial in t
Oh yeah
ohh
t^3-6t^2+9t = t(t-3)^2
Very nice problem ngl
and what you would want to prove is that a+12 is between 0 and 50
I think you can split the cases x > 0 and x < 0 to get conditions on a+12
nothing xd hru
I got cooked on the exam last week
, now I'm waiting for the score to be released so I can know how cooked I am
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yo
how do i do part c
it kinda looks like
R2 = area under graph from (4 to 5.442)
but this is wrong
R2 starts at x = 0
Part (b) talks about what the value b is. Part c basically just wants you to make a diagram for it
I don't know what I would put other than what figure 2 has, lol
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Need help with 1.b) Log(z1), struggling with calculating the angle
Ive got r already which is just r = sqrt(a^2+b^2) which is 2
but idk how to continue from then on , since i dont rlly understand the whole angle thing
You can draw -1+i geometrically to get a better understanding of the angle
Draw a coordinate system
argand diagram
Like this?
135 degree right?
yes
yes
ja
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With?
Oh
:(
lg means log I assume?
Find y in terms of x
Power rule
lg(x⁴) + lg(y²)
Yes, that's correct, but we could also leave the 2 outside of the log
Huh
Why
well we want to find y in terms of x right
lg(y²) + lg(y) = 3 + lg(x)- lg(x⁴)
Yes
Finally
Wow that internet is crazy
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Yes sorry
Okie
we use the property of the log
Full bars with 5G+😭✌️
Yes
lg(y³) = lg(x^-3) + 3
true?
Yes
Next we distribute the 2's
2(a+b) = 2a + 2b
so 2log(y) + 2log(x^2) = 3 + log(x) - log(y)
now we can just take all the log(y)'s to one side and the log(whatever x) to the other
do you see how to proceed?
well 2a + a = 3a true
so just put a = log(y), we get 2log(y) + log(y) = 3log(y)
I see
and now?
3-3log(x)
For the other side
3lg(y)= 3-3lg(x)
lg(y) = 1 - lg(x) ?
then 10^ both side
y = 10/x ?
Hey
Hi
Well log(y) = 1- log(x)
Log?
Okie
Cat cat ok
wow that was quicker than I could do it
No problem!
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A study guide will just be ur syllabus
I believe your textbook should have a lot of exercise
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i dont have a textbook..
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What di you study from?
uhhh my notes
Oh
Well you can use practice problems your teacher gave you
Also how is this my help channel???
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what have you tried
I wish i knew where to start
Inside the integral term is it cosx?
cos t
And also can you show a screenshot of the question?
Huh
Does that infinite series look familiar?
It was given in class
what about f''(0)
Yeah it's a bit of work
(it's 24 / pi^2)
But I don't think it's needed now that I look at it
You just need the inverse definition and chain rule
Here's a full development process
A little mistake I took the T(x) as the initial e^x taylor series sum expansion but later changed it to s(x).
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if you look at an open ball in C, its just a circle without the boundary. can we describe open ball something similarly on the set of single variable real functions defined on [a, b], notation probably C[a,b]? is it just "all functions bounded by the x function in some way (like between x-r and x+r)"?
or is there a better description like the circle?
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depends on the norm you're using, but assuming the usual supremum norm, it's easy to visualize: draw the graph of the function, then the ball of radius epsilon around that function is the set of all continuous functions whose graphs lie within +/- epsilon of that graph, so anything that lies between the two red curves in this picture
(ignore the annotations in the picture, i just copy/pasted it from some random MSE post)
yeah i see
saying bounded by x +- r works too?
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simplification?
yes I'm too confused to understand this
how about combining all of those constants first?
looks like you have a $12$, a $- \frac{2}{5}$ and a $3$
jan Niku
what do you get when you multiply all those together
36?
that doesnt sound right 
i think 12 * 3 is gonna be 36
but then you also need to multiply in the -2/5
🤔
I'm suggesting to move the constants just because theyre one kind of thing is all 😄
theres no addition or anything in this problem so those parentheses are more suggestions than anything
its just multiplication, which is commutative, so you can move any factor around wherever you want
it may make the problem a bit more approachable
you could start with the x's or y's instead, if you don't like the constants
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find 3 functions where f(f(x)) = x
ive already got f(x) = x, now i need 2 more
IIRC, there's only two such functions if you only consider continuous ones
theres another trivial solution?
any function symmetric about y=x would work
so you'll have to relax your expectations on what the function looks like
wait nevermind, I might be thinking of something else
f(x)=x^2 is not symmetric about y=x
x^2 is not symmetric about y=x
ohhh
damn
yes that's called being even
I mean y=x
yes
sorry I'm tired lol
that's one
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A house worth 250 million, every year the price increases constantly for 25 million (only valid for 5 years). Determine the equation of the house depreciation price line and the gradient of the line!
@weak furnace Try going through this tutorial--hopefully it can help answer your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtTOWodMINU
When we can model a real-life situation with a linear function, the slope of that function gives us important information about the situation. In this video I show two examples of how to interpret the slope of a linear function to tell us something about the context.
So, what is our y-intercept (the value at which the house starts)?
I have to go, but hopefully another individual will be able to help build your intuition.
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idk
its not in the question
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please help
It is in the question - or rather, you can intepret one way that has it
im still so confused
where?
is it the 250
its 25x-y+250=0
and gradient is m = 25
lemme send you pic of solution
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how to do without expanding it
do you know the binomial theorem
yes
$(2a-1)^5 = \sum_{k=0}^5 \binom{5}{k} (2a)^k (-1)^{5-k}$
Ann
bruh
hahah
i just got this ques form somewhere harder
so i prob might not have learnt how to do
$\binom{5}{k} (2a)^k (-1)^{5-k}$
Ann
these are the terms in your expansion
yea
adding this up for all values of k from 0 to 5 inclusive will get you the full expansion of (2a-1)^5
but all you want is the a^2 term
mhm
which is the term you get when you take k = 2
you forgot the 5C2
are you telling me you have never heard of n choose k before?
nup never
i got this ques from somewhere harder
and it may turn out to be much harder
yea idk
its ok
i ll even know how to when i get older
lol
thanks
i assume i close this
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is my calculation for this question correct?
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Hello, can someone help me this question?
am i understanding correctly that the 4 (x-int) and 2 (gradient) were given in the problem while the 2 in blue is what you filled in yourself?
yes and thats the wrong ans
nah i just misunderstood it
the lastest equation is on the right
i got positive 8 and idk how to make it back to -
i see you started with $\frac{0-y}{0-4} = 2$
Ann
yep
this sounds like you wrote down the gradient of the line connecting (0,0) to (4,y)
not (4,0) to (0,y) as you were supposed to
hmm ye
oh i guess i know what happen
lemme try again and i will come back right quick
wait
its still the same
@royal basin how?
how what
maybe you made another mistake
you aren't showing your new work after all
show your work
otherwise nobody can help you
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then 0-y/0-4
this sounds like you wrote down the gradient of the line connecting (0,0) to (4,y)
not (4,0) to (0,y) as you were supposed to
no!!!!!!
why
your points aren't (0,0) and (4,y)!!!!
y-y/x,x isnt
uh shoot
how can you plug in the wrong points and expect to get anything right from the result!!!!
no
whhhaaaa?
the x intercept is a point on the x axis
in your case it's (4,0)
(4,0) is on the x axis and its x coordinate is 4 and it is the x intercept of your line
do you understand this, yes or no
not really
do you know what an x-intercept is?
ye
what is an x-intercept
the point where your line crosses the x axis
what
ok nevermind imma figure this out later
back to the point
so its 4,0 and y,0
is it?
what
arent they a straight line?
who are "they"
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How'd i find the stationary point for this funciton?
i'll take the derivative and set it to zero
but i don't remember how to get the roots of a cubic function
That cubic would not be that hard to factor.
my first idea was to factor x^2 out, i.e. x^2(4x + 12) = 0
but it feels like a useless maneuver
That -9 will disappear
you didn't differentiate properly
Now the roots are clear
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integral of 1/x from -1 to 1
I tried to do it using the presented limits, and ended up with the result -iπ. Is there a way to get a real finite value?
Note that you can split the integral into two similar integral -1 to 0 and 0 to 1
~w integrate 1/x dx from -1 to 1
did you forgot the absolute value sign for the natural log?
Oof
I just put ln(-1) =iπ 😅
Forgot about the absolute value
anyway, it doesnt converge
right, but you have to account for the singularity at x=0
as lim_{x -> 0} ln(x) goes to -infty
Umm, yeah ln(0) approaches -infinity
So it's basically infinity - infinity
Unfortunately 😅
principal value is 0 right
since you are dealing with an indeterminate form
Wish I could just cancel them out
you have to work it around a bit
I am listening
basically you are having $\ln|-1| - \lim_{x\to 0}(\ln|x|) + \lim_{x\to 0}(\ln|x|) - \ln|1|$
waler
now you have to put those two limit together
the ln|-1| and ln|1| is just 0, so dont need to worry about it
and then just evaluate
another way around this is that you can notice that the integral of 1/x from 0 to 1 doesnt converge
And then cancel ln|x| - ln|x|?
so it will be the same for the other integral
oh wait, actually, excuse me, a bit of wrong working out there
its actually limit as x tends to 0- and the other is tending to 0+
so you cant add them up like that
sorry, bit of miscalculation there
So
so basically, since one of the integral does not converge already
the answer will not converge
no matter what the other integral is
It's still infinity - infinity
yes, but one of the integral diverges
hence the original integral diverges
basically, you have to understand the two integral as a whole
if one of them diverges, the answer is divergence
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how'd i know what type of function f(x) will ~approach as x->+-infinity?
not the value of f(x), but its tendency to follow a certain linear eq.
so for things like this you can just divide
(x^2 - 9)/(x - 5) = x + 5 + 16/(x-5)
as x goes to +-inf, obviously that last bit will go to 0
so it'll basically be x+5
actually i heard there's a shortcut to do the division, other than the standard polynomial division
ok cool but it should give you the same answer as i got
yeah ofc
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wait is this function odd?
i think it is, just want to make sure
thank you so much😆
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Try substituting (-x) into the equation and see if you get (-f(x))
ricey
if you do, then the function is odd

