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slate hamlet
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How would I integrate it?

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Do i have to square both sides in one of the function and rewrite both the equations in terms of one variable?

quick merlin
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Bro is this question correct ?

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Just recheck it then I will tryna solve it

slate hamlet
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This is the original question

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Why would it be wrong?

quick merlin
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Alr gimme a sec

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U studying from pw?

slate hamlet
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No

quick merlin
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Oh

restive gorge
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then find the intersection points of -sqrt(-x) and -x^2

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should be from -1 to 0

slate hamlet
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Gotcha, so its okay to square both sides?

restive gorge
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the upper function is -x^2 and lower -sqrt(-x)

restive gorge
quick merlin
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Whats the answer?

slate hamlet
restive gorge
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multiply by -1 first both sides

quick merlin
slate hamlet
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There isnt a answer key

restive gorge
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,, \int_{-1}^0 (-x^2) - (-\sqrt{-x}) : : \dd x

quick merlin
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Is this it?

warm shaleBOT
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bacc (unhelpful)

quick merlin
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The answer is 1/3

slate hamlet
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,rotate

warm shaleBOT
quick merlin
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,rotate

warm shaleBOT
quick merlin
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, rotate

warm shaleBOT
restive gorge
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bro stop spamming

quick merlin
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,rotate

warm shaleBOT
restive gorge
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helpee already got the idea

slate hamlet
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All right, thanks guys I understood

quick merlin
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tropic seal
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Hi! I'm newly doing asymptotes and I'm still abit confused with the exact concepts. There's no Horizontal Asymptote in this function right? Also how do you find the f(x) of the vertical Asymptotes such as in this function?

tropic seal
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How so? Can you explain it to me?

restive gorge
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find the first two limits

tropic seal
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Alright

restive gorge
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you will see it approaches a constant number as x->oo (same with -oo)

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and that constant number resembles then a horizontal asymptote, the function approaches it but never reaches it

tropic seal
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Ah I see. I got it. Thankss

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deep schooner
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We consider n a natural whole number. Prove that the greatest common divider of n+1 and n+2 is 1

cobalt ocean
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Let the greatest common divider of n+1 and n+2 =a, then, a|(n+2-(n+1))
=>a|1 <=>a=1

deep schooner
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How do we demonstrate that a divides n+2-(n+1) ?

cobalt ocean
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(n+1)=ak, if a does not divide n+2-(n+1), then n+2-(n+1)=ax+b where b<a
=>n+2=a(k+x)+b, which means a does not divide n+2

deep schooner
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Ok tnx

cobalt ocean
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np

glad arch
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hello

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civic nimbus
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Hey

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civic nimbus
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Lim x-> 0 (1-cosx) / x(2^x-1) is

timid silo
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what have you done uptill now?

warm shaleBOT
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Edmund Cloudsley

timid silo
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!status

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civic nimbus
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No 1

timid silo
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gotcha

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well if you directly substitute 0, you would get 0/0 which is in indeterminate form correct?

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therefore we can't do that

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have you heard of L'Hôpital's rule?

civic nimbus
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Yes

timid silo
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awesome

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try applying that here

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does it work out?

civic nimbus
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Wait

lost tree
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u cud also probably use the taylor expansion of 2^x

civic nimbus
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Should I use log ??

timid silo
civic nimbus
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If I use , answer is getting 1/2 log2 e

timid silo
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what are you logging tho <3

civic nimbus
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Sorry ??

timid silo
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how are you using the log function?

civic nimbus
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Idk.. I didn't get the answer though , but they gave ans is 1/2 log2 e

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scarlet basalt
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is this a set of numbers 1, 2 3 4 5 6?

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scarlet basalt
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or what it means

rocky goblet
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what's the context?

carmine hare
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its a group....maybe

scarlet basalt
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i have to test is sth is a group

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and i have given set Z7

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check if operation (x+y) mod 7 is an group[

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but i don't know that exactly is in the set X

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scarlet basalt
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so it's 0 1 2 3 4 5 6?

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without 7?

fallow wharf
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0 and 7 are in the same equivalence class

carmine hare
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cyclic group....

fallow wharf
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so either is acceptable

scarlet basalt
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so it is the set of the rests from devision by 7 right?

fallow wharf
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yeah usually people just go with {0,1,2,3,4,5,6} so let's just stick with that since those are usually what people think of when they say remainder by 7

scarlet basalt
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okey thank you

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scarlet basalt
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So i have

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scarlet basalt
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to check

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if this is an group

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the answear claims that its even an abelic group

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X is a set of all the subsets of an unempty set P

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and the equation is the common part of both set

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what it the symetric element in this case?

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because i think the neutral element is the set of all the subsets, but i don't see the symetrical element to exist

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scarlet basalt
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?

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scarlet basalt
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i did

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below

obtuse pebbleBOT
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@scarlet basalt Has your question been resolved?

worn coyote
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Because for any $S \subset P$ we have $S \cap P = P \cap S = S$

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EQUENOS

obtuse pebbleBOT
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@scarlet basalt Has your question been resolved?

scarlet basalt
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i am asking for

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an alement that gives the neutral as solution

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but i think it does not exist

worn coyote
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element odwrotny?

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The inverse element indeed doesn't exist for proper subsets, because $\forall S, T \subset P$ we always have $S \cap T \subset S \neq P$

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EQUENOS

scarlet basalt
worn coyote
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I'm assuming that's what you call $g^{-1}$?

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EQUENOS

worn coyote
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If so, then you probably mean the inverse element

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@grand relic Has your question been resolved?

hardy widget
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Note that the given expression is the square of the distance between two points on two different curves

grand relic
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I forgor what to do after deducing them as points for distance formula

hardy widget
grand relic
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so the points in question are dist between (x1,5-2x1) (x2, rt(1-x2²))

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Wait how again do u represent it as eqn of curve 😭

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Im fr forgetting

hardy widget
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I have no idea what you're trying to ask

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you have the distance between a line and a curve

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the line gives you what the slope of the normal must be

grand relic
hardy widget
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forget I said that message

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and move on from that

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you can still understand with that

grand relic
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Like what do i do with those points now

hardy widget
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you can find the point on the second curve where the normal has the required slope

grand relic
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The slope between those two points is x2²-2x1+4/x1-x2

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Is that what ur referring to 😭

hardy widget
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the normal is perpendicular to both curves

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and is hence perpendicular to y = 5-2x

grand relic
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which 2 curves

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How do i write the eqn of the curves from those points

hardy widget
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$y=5-2x$ and $y=\sqrt{1-x^2}$

warm shaleBOT
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Civil Service Pigeon

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grand relic
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OHHH so u just parametrize the coordinates

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oooh thanks now i got it : D

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Sorry for annoying u

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summer jolt
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dont understand why this is wrong

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summer jolt
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can i have some help with this

hardy widget
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,w domain of arccos x

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,w domain of arcsin x

summer jolt
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is that in degrees or radians?

polar fossil
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neither

worn yoke
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the domain of inverse sin and cos is the same for degrees and radians, the range is what's different

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bc they take a unitless ratio as input and return an angle as output

hardy widget
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(the angle can be in degrees or radians tho)

summer jolt
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ok

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but how does that relate to the problem

slate hamlet
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$Sin^{-1}(/sqrt{2}) =? $

summer jolt
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idk

hardy widget
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$\sin^{-1} \left(\sqrt{2} \right)=\text{?}$

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Civil Service Pigeon

$\sin^{-1} \left(\sqrt{2} \right)=\text{?}$
slate hamlet
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Ty

summer jolt
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im using this image as reference

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but dont see sqrt(2) there

slate hamlet
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Do you know what the range of Sin x is?

hardy widget
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warm shaleBOT
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Civil Service Pigeon

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summer jolt
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ohh so it be impossible?

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summer jolt
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so it the answer no solutions then?

hardy widget
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and same for the expression as a whole

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summer jolt
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ok thx

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need help with this too

obtuse pebbleBOT
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@summer jolt Has your question been resolved?

opaque dome
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Sin(x) = -sqrt(2)/2
Cos(x) = -sqrt(2)/2

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[Knowing that sqrt(2)/2 is the same as 1/sqrt(2)]

summer jolt
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Still got the same answer

opaque dome
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But its wrong

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Cos(x) = -sqrt(2)/2 ?

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Cos(-pi/4) = sqrt(2)/2 not -sqrt(2)/2

deft ginkgo
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The arcsin term does eval to -pi/4, but the arccos term evals to 3pi/4

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Arcsin and arccos are the same as the -1 notation btw, just in case you're not familiar

opaque dome
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!noans :)

obtuse pebbleBOT
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The purpose of this server is to help you learn, not to hand out answers. Do not ask someone to give you the answer directly.

deft ginkgo
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Bruh I mean what else can u do here 😂

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U can validate using your unit circle, and asking yourself what angle gives me the value inside the arc function

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This is something you might want to memorize, it's gonna hunt you till college unless you go the humanities route

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hazy scroll
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need help

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latent walrus
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im not surprised it doesnt like that format

coarse ibex
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Looks correct, maybe they just want it simplified

hazy scroll
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what can i do to simplify it

coarse ibex
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what's (1+5)/2

hazy scroll
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ohh okay

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summer jolt
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still confused

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summer jolt
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where did i go wrong

latent walrus
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why are you writing the values twice?

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the arcsin comes to -pi/4, the arccos comes to 3pi/4 this much i agree

dim yacht
summer jolt
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because the range fore sin and cos is -1<=x<=1, so i need to subtract and do pi - pi/4

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is that not correct?

latent walrus
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the outputs of inverse trig functions are in the domain of the trig functions (albeit restricted), nothing to do with the range of them

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the inputs of the inverse trig functions are in the range of the trig functions

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think you have some concepts confused

latent walrus
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no trickery

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<@&286206848099549185> so is it pi/2?

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latent walrus
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sounds reasonable

summer jolt
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ok thx

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need help with this too

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would i use the product rule?

summer jolt
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or maybe the chain rule?

latent walrus
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you know it

summer jolt
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can you tell me what it is again

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its a bit confusing in my notes

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@summer jolt Has your question been resolved?

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terse comet
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Use the chain rule

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D/dx tan u == sec^2 u u’

summer jolt
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Did i do it right

terse comet
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All except the first part

summer jolt
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wdym

terse comet
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It’s sec^2(1-cosx) sin x

summer jolt
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is that part of the rule

terse comet
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Yeah Bc the chain rule you keep the inside of the parentheses

summer jolt
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can u type what exactly this chain rule is

terse comet
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The chain rule is used when you have a function inside another function

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Like sin(cosx)

summer jolt
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ok

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also it say thats the answer is wrong

terse comet
summer jolt
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maybe i need to do some more simplifying?

terse comet
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No it’s sec(1-cosx)^2 Sinx

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Sorry I typed it wrong

summer jolt
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Where did the square come from

terse comet
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Because d/dx tan u = sec^2 u

summer jolt
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looks like its still wong

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why is the square for the 1-cos x

terse comet
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You keep typing sec x

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It’s secant of cosine

hoary lynx
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(sec(1-cos(x))^2

summer jolt
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ohh

terse comet
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Or sec(1-cosx)

summer jolt
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wait why

terse comet
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Ok so

hoary lynx
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for tan(1 - cos x) make 1 - cosx equal u
then the derivative of tan u equals (sec u) ^ 2
then plug 1 - cos x back in and get (sec (1 - cos x)) ^ 2
then multiply by the derivative of 1 - cos x
((sec (1 - cos x)) ^ 2) * (sin x)

terse comet
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Yeah that looks right

summer jolt
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Ok I think I understand now

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I have applied this to a similar problem plz check

hoary lynx
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yes, that's all correct

summer jolt
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great now how do i find the domain

hoary lynx
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oh wait you might want to check what the original function was

summer jolt
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i have to find domain of both

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but y' is correct right?

hoary lynx
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the work is correct but on the picture it shows that y is a different function

summer jolt
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ohhh

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i wrote it down wrong lol

hoary lynx
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yeah but that would be the right answer if you were differentiating what you wrote down

summer jolt
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kk

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is the derivative of e^(x-2) the same as e^(x-2)

hoary lynx
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yes

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if you make x - 2 equal to u and differentiate e^u and x - 2 and multiply them together you get e^u which is still e^(x -2)

summer jolt
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ok fixed it

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how would i find the domain of y and y'

hoary lynx
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for the domain of y you have to check for what x values does y not exist

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the same thing for y'

summer jolt
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x can be anything right

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so all real numbers for both?

hoary lynx
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yes

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if there was something like 1 / (x - 1) then x couldn't be 1 since you would have 1/0 which is undefined

summer jolt
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just to clarify

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e to the power of anything is e to the power of anything right

hoary lynx
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no you would still have to do chain rule

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if you have e^2x then you would have to do chain rule

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if you try solving this then you'll find out that it's not just e^2x

summer jolt
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Ok so if I had e^arcsin x

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Then outer function would be e^x

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And inner would be arcsin x

hoary lynx
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yeah

summer jolt
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Right?

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Okk

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This is what I got

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A bit stuck when figuring out derivative of g(x)

hoary lynx
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arcsin x is just one of those derivatives you memorize like the derivative of tan equals sec^2

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there's no special rule for figuring it out. In the future just know that it equals 1 / sqrt(1 - x^2)

summer jolt
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ok

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Would this be right then

hoary lynx
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yes

summer jolt
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okay it seems like ive understood how to do it now

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thank you

hoary lynx
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no problem

summer jolt
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can you help me with this too

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i have done similar problems but its been a while

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i first have to find the derivative of the equation right

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but the notation is confusing me

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it looks like its x * arcsin(y)?

hoary lynx
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yeah

summer jolt
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do i take derivative of both sides

hoary lynx
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yes

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since you need to find dy/dx you need to do implicit differentiation

summer jolt
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Ohhh so it wouldn't be this

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Helpp I'm so bad at implicit differentiation

hoary lynx
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since we need to know dy/dx we need to derive with respect to x

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this means that if we take the derivative of something like x^2 we get 2x but if we derive y^2 we would have to multiply it by dy/dx

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the derivative of y^2 with respect to x would be 2y * dy/dx

summer jolt
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ok i think im understanding this in two different ways

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i have attached two lines for the nxt step... which one is correct

hoary lynx
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mb I explained it wrong the first time

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so you don't multiply it by dy/dx when you start taking the derivative

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you do that at the end

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so y^2

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the derivative would be 2y * dy/dx

summer jolt
hoary lynx
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yes but on the left side you forgot about the product rule

summer jolt
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omg why r there so many rules

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Is this right

hoary lynx
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yes

summer jolt
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what should i do with the rhs

hoary lynx
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take the derivative also

summer jolt
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ok done

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its 2y

hoary lynx
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yep

summer jolt
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ok

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and now i have to do the implicit thingy

hoary lynx
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yeah dy/dx

summer jolt
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wait how do i do that

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cuz everything has y

hoary lynx
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well for arcsin y you took the derivative of x and not arcsin so since you didn't differentiate a y variable you don't put it there

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for x / sqrt(1 - y^2) you did differentiate arcsin y so you multiply dy/dx

summer jolt
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but its literally arcsin(y)

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it has y in it

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like its arcsin of y

hoary lynx
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yes but you didn't do the derivative of it since it's still arcsin of y

summer jolt
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ohh ok

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so i just write it as it is?

hoary lynx
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yeah

summer jolt
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and what abt rhs

hoary lynx
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rhs you took the derivative of y^2 which has y so you multiply it by dy/dx

summer jolt
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okay

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and now i just have to move all the dy/dx s to one side right

hoary lynx
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yeah

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in other words solve for dy/dx

summer jolt
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is this right

hoary lynx
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the 2y disappeared after the second step

summer jolt
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oh oops just added it in

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what should i do nxt

hoary lynx
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can I see what you wrote down?

summer jolt
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yea sure

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its a bit messy

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do i need to simplify it or smth

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or it just supposed to be like that

hoary lynx
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that's fine

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just remember that it's arcsin of y at the end

summer jolt
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shoot right

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ok

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ill add that in

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anyways the question asks for the slope at (1,0)

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so do i need to plug something into the dy/dx

hoary lynx
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yea

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since x is 1 and y is 0 then you just plug in 1 for x and 0 for y and solve for dy/dx

summer jolt
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i got -arcsin(0)

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should i calculate in degrees or radians

hoary lynx
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radians

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though it's the same either way lol

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oh wait mb that only applies for sin

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not arcsin

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but yeah always use radians for calculus

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unless they specifically ask for degrees

summer jolt
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kk

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ohh that makes sense

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cuz i also used to use degrees for trig

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and now everything is in radians

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and thats probly becuz its calc

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@hoary lynx i tried to solve a similar problem and got it wrong

hoary lynx
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can I see your work?

summer jolt
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yea yea it just takes a bit of time to upload

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here it is

hoary lynx
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what did you plug in for y?

summer jolt
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-0.5

hoary lynx
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and when you squared it what did you get?

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oh I see

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you forgot to square it

summer jolt
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ohhhh

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i got sqrt(0.75) now

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does that sound right

hoary lynx
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yeah that should be the answer

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also want to know an alternate way you could have solved it?

summer jolt
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sure

hoary lynx
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isntead of arcsin y = x you could do y = sin x

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since arcsin is the inverse of sin

summer jolt
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right

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yea that makes sense

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also i just realized the problem asks to find the equation not the line

hoary lynx
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oh yeah you're right

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that just gives the slope

summer jolt
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and isnt that kind of hard to do

hoary lynx
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finding the equation is pretty easy actually

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you just have to plug in numbers

summer jolt
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so now i have sqrt(0.75)x + ? = -pi/6

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like how am i supposed to do that

hoary lynx
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well I would set it up differently

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since it's a line the equation for a line is y = mx +b

summer jolt
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yeaa

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isnt that what i did

hoary lynx
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but the other way of writing this is y - y1 = m(x - x1)

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y1 and x1 being the coordinates

summer jolt
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is that way better

hoary lynx
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yes because you just plug in the coordinates, move the y1 to the right and you're done

summer jolt
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Okk

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It's looking kinda ugly

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But is it at least right lol

hoary lynx
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yeah

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the slope isn't negative though

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but besides that everything else is right

summer jolt
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kk

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@hoary lynx can u take a look at this

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apparently its wrong

hoary lynx
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when you took the derivative you changed 2x + 1 to 2x - 1

summer jolt
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yea

hoary lynx
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also the 2x - 1 needs to be squared since the derivative of arcsin is 1 / sqrt(1 - x^2)

summer jolt
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i dont get it

hoary lynx
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oh yeah nvrmind you're right

summer jolt
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ohh its the minus

hoary lynx
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but it still needs to be squared

summer jolt
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but its not impossible

summer jolt
hoary lynx
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1 - (2x + 1)^2

summer jolt
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ohh yea its part of the formula

hoary lynx
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also since it's chain rule you also still have to multiply by the derivative of 2x + 1

summer jolt
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This is what I have now

hoary lynx
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yeah

summer jolt
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wait where

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im so confused

hoary lynx
summer jolt
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great

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alr im falling asleep

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R u available tmw morning

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To help me with this

hoary lynx
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I might be busy but I'll try

summer jolt
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Okay tysm

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Imma close this channel and I'll reopen tmw

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french math help pls

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ember frost
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send the question, and translate it to english please

olive echo
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ill try

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there arnt any french ppl here to help tho ?

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i mean, there might be, but for the time being its best for you to translate the question

olive echo
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A machine can break down. The probability of a breakdown is 0.01 each time the machine is used. The machine must be used 100 times.

  1. The number of breakdowns observed is a random variable X. Calculate the probabilities of obtaining X=0, X=2, X=3 and X≥ 4.
  2. The cost of a repair is estimated at 500 euros; the expenditure, expressed in euros, on repairs to the machine is a random variable Y. Calculate the expected value of Y and its standard deviation.
ember frost
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hm, seems to be outside of my knowledge. i cannot help you then

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meanwhile you can wait for other people

olive echo
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alright

red ice
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it's binomial probability
for example, $P(X = 0) = {100 \choose 0} * 0.01^0 * 0.99^{100}$

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south's secret twin brother

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red ice
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where p is the proability of success

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that's 0.01 in this question, cause you're measuring the number of breakdowns

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and n is the number of trials, so 100

olive echo
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okokk

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btw this is for a friend so id understand anything

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he's in college im still in high school 😭

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Can someone explain what Shearing is in Matrices? Aren't we technically just scaling them in a certain direction?

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old hollow
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Lol I'm watching that exact video right now.

light flume
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u might find the visual representation more intuitive

old hollow
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We are just shifting everything in a certain direction

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Like scaling and shifting in a direction

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I am not sure if I am misunderstanding or something.

light flume
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i think u probably understand it but just dont confuse it with rotation

old hollow
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Yeah, it's different, I just don't how to describe it.

light flume
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but

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thinking of a gradient

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like in 2D, you are slanted to the other unit vecotr

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or the other way i thought of it was that each point described was a certain signed distance away from the axis

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which is equivalent to just what gradient really describes

old hollow
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Shear's in essencen are like gradients.

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I need to find a lower and upper bound on this $\sum_{i=1}^{n} \frac{a_i}{a_i + a_{i+1}} \quad (\text{cyclic with } a_{n+1} = a_1, , a_i > 0 \text{ for all } i)$ I tried induction and AM-GM but that doesnt work and i noticed that this expression is homogenous so we can take the sum to be 1, I think the minimum is when all terms are equal and we get $n/2$ I need some help/a hint on which inequalities to use (I cant use Jensen tho)

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okay induction works on the upper bound and i got <=n-1, but I still have to prove that its the best upper bound

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How to solve

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calc allowed?

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novel solstice
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hello! im currently struggling with the quadratic formula, specifically on what to do if the b isnt a perfect square. (im not extactly the best at matth but i would like to get good at it)

novel solstice
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did i do something wrong with my process?

dusk widget
novel solstice
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oh no

dusk widget
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the quadratic formula will always give you the roots, but it doesn’t always have to be a pretty clean number

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it can be super ugly too

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but, you haven’t actually checked whether or not this is the case

novel solstice
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what do i do then if its an ugly number?

dusk widget
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you did sqrt(570)

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that’s not what the quadratic formula wants

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it wants sqrt(570^2 - 4 * 30 * (-14990))

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,calc sqrt(570^2 - 4 * 30 * (-14990))

warm shaleBOT
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Result:

1457.2920091732
dusk widget
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ah, it’s also ugly kongouderp

novel solstice
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oof

dusk widget
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,calc (570^2 - 4 * 30 * (-14990))

novel solstice
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im currently studdying someones soulution

warm shaleBOT
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Result:

2.1237e+6
novel solstice
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for a project (but im getting no responses)

dusk widget
novel solstice
dusk widget
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well, I haven’t seen the original question

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so I don’t know

novel solstice
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wait is it ok if i send somthing else? its still related to this math question

dusk widget
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sure

novel solstice
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im so sorry if im being a bit blurry

dusk widget
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you’re okay

novel solstice
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its a part of this bigger arithmetic problem

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where i have to calculate expences

slate hamlet
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Whats the question?

novel solstice
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wait wait let me send

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im so sorry

slate hamlet
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From what I can tell you have to find the limiting value of n, and n shouldnt be a fraction

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So you can round down i believe

novel solstice
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A) How many weeks will you need to be able to save for your target amount?

i have to look for n

My Sn should be 14990
a1 is 600
D is 60

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my groupmaate said they used the Sn=n/2(a1+a1+(n-1)d)

slate hamlet
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<= is fine

novel solstice
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method for getting the numbers for the quadratic equatuion

slate hamlet
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I mean essentially yes

novel solstice
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they said it was the same as Sn=n/2(a1+an)

slate hamlet
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Yes that also works but you dont know an

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Basically you have to solve the quadratic equation when your expenses are = 14990

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If n is a fraction

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You round down

novel solstice
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OH NO WAIT I SAID WRONG

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AN IS 14990

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IM SO SORRY

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im so so sorry

slate hamlet
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You dont have to apologize

novel solstice
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i double checked my notes

slate hamlet
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But then this formula doesnt make sense

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Cause its the formula for sum

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Is D the amount you are saving per week?

novel solstice
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common difference is how much you are addding to a1 each week

slate hamlet
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Or is it the extra amount you are saving per week like interest

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Okay

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No then sum is fine

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14990 isnt an

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Its the sum

novel solstice
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oops

slate hamlet
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Inside your bracket

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Nvm got it

novel solstice
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Thisbis my original breakdown of the numbers

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for the first part

slate hamlet
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Yea and when you solve this quadratic

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You are getting 14.7 something?

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You cant round up

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Because you will end up saving more

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Either leave it at 14.78 weeks

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Or round down to 14 weeks

novel solstice
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my groupmate rounded it down

slate hamlet
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Well

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You can also argue for rounding up

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Because then you will eat the target amount and more

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Either way your working is correct

novel solstice
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ohh ok ok

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my main problem with my groupmate's solutution is the complete soulution for the quadratic equation they skip over so many parts of it that i dont understand it

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thats why im trying to solve it for myself

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but at thw square rooting part when i did 570 it gave me a decimal

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so i was thinking what i should do next

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if i did something wrong because its not a perfect square

slate hamlet
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It doesnt have to be a perfect square

novel solstice
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what if it isnt a perfect square?

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do i round it up?

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it will become 24 if i do

slate hamlet
novel solstice
slate hamlet
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Oh

novel solstice
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im trying to understand it

slate hamlet
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This working isnt correct

novel solstice
slate hamlet
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Are you allowed graphing calculators?

novel solstice
slate hamlet
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Wait

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What did you plug into the calculator?

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You have to plug in this entire thing

novel solstice
slate hamlet
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Yea

novel solstice
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i dont have a 2 liner calculator

slate hamlet
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Then you have to plug it in one by one ig

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Solve the sqrt first

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Then the other stuff

novel solstice
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ok

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wait

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lemme do that

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sory wait im evaporatoimg

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Wait so like this?

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Hold up im so confused

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Or is it the other way around

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Kase ill still get the same decimal

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*because

slate hamlet
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Huh

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Explain

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You have to find this value

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-570 + or - the sqrt expression

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Divided by 60

novel solstice
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Basically was i supposed to solve it like this?

slate hamlet
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Sure

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Yea basically

novel solstice
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OHHHHHH

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SO IVE BEEN DOIIN IT WRONG

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OK OK

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I GETS IT

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:DDDDDD

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wait lemme solve the rest of ot

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and ill show you

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This is what i have rn

slate hamlet
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Your 2 * 30 turned into 2 * 50 ig

novel solstice
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oopd

slate hamlet
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And then into 10?

novel solstice
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sorruy

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my mind is soup

slate hamlet
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Also 570 is also divided by 60

novel solstice
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ok ok

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lemme erase everything

novel solstice
slate hamlet
novel solstice
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Alright i woke myself up a bit

novel solstice
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my soulution is so much different then my friends

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oh no

slate hamlet
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Is that really the sqrt?

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,w calc (1473900)^(1/2)

novel solstice
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oh lord

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its fine, ill just try again tommorow i cant think when im so burnt out

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@slate hamlet im so sorry if it was a pain, i really apreashate your patience

slate hamlet
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Something went wrong here

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Cause the square root shouldnt be that big

novel solstice
slate hamlet
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I dont know you must have entered a couple extra zeroes in the calculator

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,w calculate (1314042)^2

slate hamlet
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Yea idk what you entered

novel solstice
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ok ok

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wait

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im so tired give me a sec lemme try again

slate hamlet
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Dont start from the beggining

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Solve from here

novel solstice
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Oh wait

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Im short circuiting

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I cant keep my eyes open i think i moght have to stop

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Im so sorry i cant keep mysef awake anymore ill have to stop but i have an idea how to solve tgis

slate hamlet
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Thats correct

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Yea go to bed

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Try again tomorrow

novel solstice
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yeah thanks so much man i appreshate it

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byeeeee

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Can i get a step by step explanation preferably visually on how to solve this task?

queen sand
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Determine the limit value

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Expand (4+h)^2 then simplify the expression.

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i'm studying one-sided limits using the epsilon-delta definition of a limit, but im stuck on this question. so far i was able to write a statement saying (1 - x) + sqrt(1 - x) < epsilon. what should i do next?

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this is what i have so far

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<@&286206848099549185> i posted this almost an hour ago. some help would be great

past sand
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I don't think the "for all x < 0" is any help

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I think you can just take delta = epsilon here

cerulean umbra
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would that satisfy it?

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i wrote some more for it:
(1 - x) + sqrt(1 - x) < delta + sqrt(delta) < epsilon

past sand
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I'm too rusty for this, damn

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What's left is to get delta in terms of epsilon I guess

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(you might like to make it such that 1 - x is "small enough", potentially)

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how to make channel

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stray lily
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okay

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can someone tell what r functions

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👍

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im 0 math

marsh geyser
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Do you want the definition of function?

stray lily
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like types

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and everything

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im literally 0

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math

marsh geyser
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I will explain in an easy way

stray lily
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okay

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one question before u begin

marsh geyser
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Go ahead

stray lily
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why or where do we use functions

marsh geyser
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Very open question

stray lily
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these rules and definitions r created to solve problems in the past

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so what about functions

marsh geyser
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Imagine a function is like a machine.

stray lily
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okay

marsh geyser
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That machine has some instructions inside

stray lily
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input and output

marsh geyser
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Right now we don’t care what are those instructions

marsh geyser
stray lily
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okay

marsh geyser
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The machine has two sides

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One side will receive an input

stray lily
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okay

marsh geyser
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The input goes inside the machine, does the instructions and give in the other side an output

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Lets call the machine f(x)

stray lily
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okay

marsh geyser
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I will give this machine the following instructions

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Whatever you receive as an imput, multiply by 2, add 3 and give the result as an output

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f(x) = 2x+3

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Remember

stray lily
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done

marsh geyser
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f(x) is the machine

stray lily
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so lets say i put 4

marsh geyser
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2x+3 rhe instructions

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Now your input

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x=4

stray lily
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isee

marsh geyser
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I put 4 inside the function

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f(4) = 2(4) + 3

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Output = 11

stray lily
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okay

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understood now

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quick question

marsh geyser
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Go ahead

stray lily
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like polynomial and square root functions

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r these the types

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or what

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cuz i kinda dont understand this part

marsh geyser
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We can have f(x) = sqrt(x) for example

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The instructions now are, taking the square root of your input

stray lily
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ik

marsh geyser
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But sometimes the machine can break

stray lily
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is this a type of functions

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or

marsh geyser
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For example in this one

earnest scarab
marsh geyser
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If your input is negative and you are working in real numbers

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When you do f(-1) = sqrt(-1)

stray lily
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it wont work

marsh geyser
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The machine won’t give an output

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Now, type of functions is your next question?

stray lily
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why

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isnt -1 in reall numbers

marsh geyser
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-1 is a real number but sqrt(-1) is not

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So your input works, but instructions don’t know what to do

stray lily
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what about bijective and surjective

stray lily
marsh geyser
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Any variable that has a log, or trigonometric function like sin, cos or the ones with the exponent being the variable are non algebraic

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f(x) = e^x is non algebraic for example

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Or f(x) = tan(2x)

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what?

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why

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wait

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i understand

marsh geyser
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Ok

stray lily
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so

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wait

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idk

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im lost

marsh geyser
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Maybe you are studying too many things in a very short period of time because you have a test soon?

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what is the diffrence between classification of functions and types

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That is a problem, because it is very possible that you forget absolutely everything tomorrow

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But if you get the machine idea at least you know how a function works

stray lily
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im summarising

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in text document

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anyways tysm for the help

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how to close this channel

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It is ok, take it easy

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!done

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.close

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once the message is sent that its officially closed

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left mesa
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Hallo! I just need an explanation on why this is a one to one function

left mesa
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I was a bit confused since this was the definition

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Also how come the answer to this one is the last one?

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I also don't get this, how did the denominator become 7/2

left mesa
coarse ibex
warm shaleBOT
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Morrow

left mesa
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How so?

coarse ibex
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It's called "taking the contrapositive". In general "P implies Q" is equivalent to "not P implies not Q"

left mesa
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ohh

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thanks

coarse ibex
left mesa
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how come it's not -2 then? is it because there's no x variable?

coarse ibex
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In the first question, the expression "(3x-7)/2" makes sense for any (real) value of x, so the domain is all real numbers.

left mesa
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o

left mesa
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howd it become - 7/2

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NVM

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divide both sides by 2 after transposing 7

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lol

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I forgot it's like solving x

marsh geyser
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What sides?

coarse ibex
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I assume they mean when solving for denom=0

left mesa
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Yeah

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equate to 0 then transpose the constant

coarse ibex
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yeah so with a rational function its domain is anywhere the denom is not 0

left mesa
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anyways can u help me with this instead?

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Like can you give me a given for this one

coarse ibex
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you got a specific question?

left mesa
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then teach me how to solve it

left mesa
coarse ibex
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$$3^{3x+1} = 9^x$$

left mesa
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oh wait

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Ohh

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howd that happen

coarse ibex
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the bot?

left mesa
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No

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I mean yeah lol

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Nvm dont mind me

warm shaleBOT
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Morrow

left mesa
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what will happen to the exponent x on the 9^x?

marsh geyser
left mesa
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I know 9 will be 3^2

coarse ibex
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yeah

left mesa
marsh geyser
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Not you, the image you shared

coarse ibex
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so we can write it as $$3^{3x+1} = (3^2)^x$$

warm shaleBOT
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Morrow

left mesa
left mesa
coarse ibex
left mesa
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oh then 3^2x?

coarse ibex
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yeah

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then you just solve 3x+1 = 2x

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(this should remind you of injectivity, btw)

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one-to-one

left mesa
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am I right? x (3-2) = -1?

left mesa
coarse ibex
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yeah x=-1

coarse ibex
left mesa
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oh

coarse ibex
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yeah one-to-one and injective are synonyms

left mesa
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ohh

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u know a lot are u in college?

coarse ibex
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yeah

left mesa
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oki thank u so much

coarse ibex
left mesa
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oh is it bec its exponent is an odd number?

coarse ibex
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no, it works for any positive base

left mesa
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I'm told that if an exponent is an odd number then it's one-to-one

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you're thinking of the function x^k where k is odd