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subtle wasp
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well done

modern bison
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Thanks

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Another question is to find AB how can we do it?

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@subtle wasp

subtle wasp
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yes

subtle wasp
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in ur picture it seems like AFC is a right triangle ?

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is it right ?

modern bison
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It's not mentioned in question

subtle wasp
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ok doesn't matter

modern bison
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I made the figure like that

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CE is 18 but it's wrong here it's written 11

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This was the question that I received

subtle wasp
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did u get some equations or ratio in which AC appears ?

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during ur reasoning

modern bison
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Yea I found AC is 16

subtle wasp
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look into the link i sent i think u already solve it

modern bison
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Ahhh

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Thank you very much

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olive blaze
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Hi. I have a problem with linear approximation. I know how to do it with natural logaritms and roots, but not with eulers. Ill post the problem with formula i have to use it to get the result (the way ive learned and its easiest for me). Ive tried multiple solutions, but i cant seem to find the f(xo) and other elements so i implement my problem to formula

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astral silo
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1 question first, where is x in the equation

olive blaze
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There is no x, the task is to get approximate result of this task by using the formula below

astral silo
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uh

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it looks like the one where u approximate the area but without x

olive blaze
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I can show u the simpler task done if u dont understand what they want from me...

astral silo
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dw i wont be able to help

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im in pre-uni

olive blaze
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Oh

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I rly need help with this hahh... im having an exam next week, i dont know with eulers...

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So ummm do i ping the helpers to check my problem?

astral silo
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wait for 15 mins

olive blaze
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okay..

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Btw where do i ping them

astral silo
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just @ helpers

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in here

olive blaze
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<@&286206848099549185>

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empty pewter
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could someone help me w with number 3 please?

high lily
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what have you thought about

empty pewter
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I’ve tried to switch up combinations but B always ends up being the midpoint

high lily
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what if A,B,C aren't collinear?

empty pewter
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but it says line AC so wouldnt they have to be on the same line?

high lily
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line AC would only refers to the line joining points A and C
says nothing about the position of B

empty pewter
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would this work?

high lily
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no

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you're using B to name what seems to be two different points

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think isosceles triangle

empty pewter
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like this ?

high lily
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yes

empty pewter
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ohh ok I thought I had to actually include AC so I wasnt thinking abt that

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thank you!

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velvet portal
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so i see where i went wrong on part B, but i still don't know what i did wrong on part A and C

velvet portal
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(screenshots are in backwards order)

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ohh wait okay i think i see what happened in part A, i just completely dropped the 3

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i still fail to see how the work that i did in C is wrong

fallen pine
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it looks right to me

velvet portal
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chatgpt also said so, i might have to email her and ask

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crisp spruce
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crisp spruce
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I’ve tried this qhestion 10 times, and none of the answers are right

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crisp spruce
junior granite
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1/5 and 6 do not have those exponents

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you can't take them inside those parenthesis

crisp spruce
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I can’t? I thought that u had to multiple like “nx^n-1”

junior granite
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and it is fine

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but the problem is in 3rd

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a(b^5) is not equal to (ab)^5

crisp spruce
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Wait so how am I supposed to multiply the 3

plucky scroll
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You dont

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anything to the power a / b becomes
b root (blah) ^ a

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@crisp spruce does this make sense

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split trail
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split trail
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the equation of a vertical line in a coordinate system is given by x=c but with the relation y=mx+c the slope comes out to be 1 but we know that the slope of vertical line is infinity
i know i am doing dumb thing somewhere
but please help me

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kindred elk
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?

worn yoke
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in y = mx + c there is a y in the equation. where would the y go?

worn yoke
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,w graph x = 5

warm shaleBOT
thorn summit
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we have all values of y

worn yoke
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not just y = 0

thorn summit
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there is no "single" y at any point x

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we cant say that y = mx + c for a vertical line, because the equation doesn't even change when we move x

split trail
worn yoke
split trail
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wait a sec pls

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this is the question

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here i found dy/dx on the curve and put y=0 as it is a vertical line

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then with the comparison of y=mx +c with x=any constant i equated dy/dx=1

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by solving i got x coordinate as 2

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but the ans says y coordinate as 2

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pls correct me 😦

worn yoke
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slope = (change in y)/(change in x)
vertical = no change in x
therefore vertical slope = (change in y)/0
which approaches infinity

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therefore you should be finding the vertical asymptotes of the derivative

split trail
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asymptotes?

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see i know that the slope is infinity for a vertical line but y=mc+c is saying something else

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x-c=0 for x=c line

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x coeff is 1

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y is 0

worn yoke
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the formulas are completely incompatible! y = mx + c is only for lines that are not vertical, and x = c is only for lines that are vertical

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so trying to combine them does not work

split trail
thorn summit
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it's for lines that change over x

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you cant have mx +c if there is no multiple values of x

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there is no derivative. m means nothing because there is no dx for a dy

split trail
thorn summit
split trail
thorn summit
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x=3 does not change with x

split trail
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ohh ok

worn yoke
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remember that "m", the coefficient of x in y = mx + c is the slope. if the slope is infinite, now i have the formula y = ∞x + c, which is nonsensical

split trail
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so what will you guys do in that question just tell me the algorithm

thorn summit
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sure, the line does get steeper and steeper the higher m you go, but it will never actually ever approach an entirely vertical line if we're in mx + b, because by definition it's a function. you cant have more than one y per x

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that's why infinity breaks that and we cant say y is based on x, because infinity is arbitrary

thorn summit
split trail
thorn summit
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start by doing that then

split trail
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i got x/2

thorn summit
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whar

split trail
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if i put y=0

thorn summit
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that's not what we're solving for

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we want to know the asymptotes

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dont put anything in, what is your equation

split trail
thorn summit
split trail
thorn summit
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no dw

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when would the graph be undefined?

split trail
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what

thorn summit
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here's a hint: factor the denominator

split trail
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i can take out 3 common

thorn summit
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okay good

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now we have something like

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$\frac{6x}{3(y^2-4)}$

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yes?

split trail
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yes

warm shaleBOT
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Serphic

split trail
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no

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yes

thorn summit
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lmfao mb

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now aside from cancelling out the three from numerator and denominator, do you see how y^2 -4 is a difference of squares?

split trail
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ohh yes'

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y+2 into y-2

thorn summit
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yep

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so we now have

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$\frac{2x}{(y-2)(y+2)}$

warm shaleBOT
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Serphic

split trail
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yes

thorn summit
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when y is equal to positive or negative two, dy/dx shoots off to infinity

split trail
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yes

thorn summit
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so we know that y is either negative 2 or positive 2, we just need to check which of these end up working out (not giving us complex values of x, im assuming)

split trail
thorn summit
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unless i've messed up somewhere, yep!

split trail
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well you are right actually

thorn summit
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nice

split trail
thorn summit
thorn summit
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np!

split trail
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slate grotto
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I don't really understand how to input it as answer...

slate grotto
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I thought I would just solve for t, sub it into y equations and that's it. But it doesn't seem to work?

timid silo
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Solve t in terms of x, and solve y in terms of x

slate grotto
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one sec, I'll send my work

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But like even if i then solve y in terms of x, it shows "y- {blank}"

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unless it means it as
x= 2/3 y - 1?

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jesse oh that kinda makes sense

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i think i got it, im just dumb, thank you

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naive obsidian
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hello, i am not sure about a conclusion i made, this is very simples geometry, school level, or high school as americans would say

naive obsidian
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i might be completely wrong about this but i went for

sin 45 = square root 2 divided by 2 = 20 divided by x

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which in my head came out as 40 square root 2

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i am very much a newbie on this stuff so pardon me for any errors

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i do not have a phone rn which is why i used microsoft paint

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faiyrose

naive obsidian
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accurate representation of my process

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x = 2.20 squareroot 2

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its still at a beginners level so theres no nned to delve into an answer much more complicated than this, if its correct that is

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hello?

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its already complicated when you dont speak math english so ill do my best

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i thought to cross multiply (?)

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2 for 20

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and x for sqr2

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since sin 45 is sqr2/2

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as far as im concerned

warm shaleBOT
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faiyrose

naive obsidian
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so, my answer is correct?

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teacher taught us to put the x just aside for now, and when the math is finished that x aside is now the value of that

naive obsidian
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again, very much beginner math so, it doesnt evolve to much more than this

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im really just thinking if the math that i did sums up to the correct value

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divison

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divisoon

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division

warm shaleBOT
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faiyrose

naive obsidian
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oh

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yeah thats what i did

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so my result is correct infact

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so this is what i was supposed to write

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ooooooohhhhhh

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thank you very much

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excuse me for taking your time

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how do i close this now

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.ckose

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bro

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.close

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gaunt meteor
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Help

obtuse pebbleBOT
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Please don't occupy multiple help channels.

gaunt meteor
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Help

wooden turtle
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with what

gaunt meteor
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Area of this

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sorry

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I mean perimeter of this

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Someone helped me with the area then left

wooden turtle
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do you know the formula to get the perimeter of a rectangle

gaunt meteor
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No I am so bad to geometry

subtle sinew
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Try using google for that formulas if you don't know it

wooden turtle
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2(l+w) is the formula i use, so your length is 20 and width is 15 so add them together and multiply it by 2

or add 15+15+20+20 and that will be your rectangles perimeter

gaunt meteor
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Ok so

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70 for the rectangle what about the triangle

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10+10+20+20?

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So 130ft for the perimeter

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?

wooden turtle
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for the triangle you have to do 2a + b so 2(10)+20 or 10+10+20 im pretty sure

gaunt meteor
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I have another composite shape but instead it’s a rectangle and a half circle I think. What would I do for that

wooden turtle
subtle sinew
gaunt meteor
wooden turtle
subtle sinew
gaunt meteor
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She also wants the perimeter

subtle sinew
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For bonus

gaunt meteor
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It’s not required but I am trying to learn how to do it cause geometry makes no sense to me and it’s on the test tomorrow

wooden turtle
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u might have to ask someone else im not good with circles and half circled sorry, i suggest looking up the formula on google though

gaunt meteor
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How do I ask someone else post it in another help?

subtle sinew
gaunt meteor
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It’s on the test tomorrow

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And I don’t know how to do it

subtle sinew
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It's bonus

gaunt meteor
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This is the pratice test

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None of its worth anything I just don’t know how to do it

subtle sinew
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That's what brownie points mean, it's a bonus, extra credit

gaunt meteor
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Idk why she said that

subtle sinew
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If your teacher is going to put a similar question like that, she's either going to make it a bonus or not ask for the perimeter

wooden turtle
gaunt meteor
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Okay thanks

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thorn summit
thorn summit
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easier one would obvi be the rectangle

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so

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what is the area of the rectangle?

gaunt meteor
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Okay

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25*20?

thorn summit
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yep

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now for the area of the half-circle

gaunt meteor
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25*12.5 for the top part?

thorn summit
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okay so

gaunt meteor
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Oh

thorn summit
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what's the area formula for a whole circle?

gaunt meteor
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No idea

thorn summit
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ohh shit

gaunt meteor
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Pie r ^2?

thorn summit
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yep

thorn summit
gaunt meteor
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So what do I do w that info

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Half c what

thorn summit
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the total area of a circle is pi r ^2

thorn summit
gaunt meteor
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12.5 is half of the circle ?

thorn summit
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no

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pi r^2 is the formula for the area of a full circle

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if we divide that by two, we get the area of a half circle

gaunt meteor
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So pi(12.5)^2 is the answer ? For the top part… then divide by 2 ?

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After your times by 25cm

thorn summit
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you dont times it by 25 jiskjdhnjfjn

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okay

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so

gaunt meteor
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Then why did I do that for the last problem.

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I had to times 20 the base by 10 then divide by 2

thorn summit
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the difference here is that this is a portion of a circle

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there is no unique length or width for a circle, because the area is based on the radius

subtle sinew
gaunt meteor
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Okay That kinda of makes sense

thorn summit
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you can describe a circle using only its radius, but you cant just telll me a triangle has a height of 3 and tell me to solve the area for it

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because the only thing describing the circle is the distance from the center to the outside

gaunt meteor
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On the left is already said 12.5

thorn summit
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yeah

gaunt meteor
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So if half of its 12.5 is that whole circle 25?

subtle sinew
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Do you know what radius and diameter means?

gaunt meteor
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I have heard of it not exactly sure

subtle sinew
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I suggest looking it up

gaunt meteor
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Okay

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I did

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But what do I do now

subtle sinew
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Do you know what it means now?

gaunt meteor
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Yes

subtle sinew
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What does it mean? How are radius and diameter related?

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neon spade
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Can someone please help me with this 😭 I’m really struggling finding the domain #61 a)

neon spade
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A) f o g and state the domain

vale pelican
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what's f o g explicitly?

haughty stump
vale pelican
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I was asking the op but thanks

glossy basalt
vale pelican
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that's also not the explicit form I was looking for

haughty stump
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it looks simple enough, sin(2x)/(1+sin(2x))

and the denominator can not be zero

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and just go from there

vale pelican
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I still wasn't asking you, sorry

haughty stump
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i wasnt talking to you either there

vale pelican
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so why'd you give the answer to my question?

glossy basalt
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Let's ask op

haughty stump
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i didnt reply to you

vale pelican
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you answered my question, which was incorrect to do

glossy basalt
neon spade
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For the fog I got sin2x/1+sin2x

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And I need to find the domain of that

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And i don’t have a good idea of the concept of finding the domain

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…?

glossy basalt
neon spade
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😃

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I’m js confused lol in the chat

stuck finch
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for example what is domain of 1/x

vale pelican
neon spade
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Yeah I know so far that 0 is a number that works

haughty stump
neon spade
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Uhh

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-1?

stuck finch
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yes

neon spade
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Oh yay

stuck finch
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sin2x=-1

neon spade
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The sin is messing me up 😭

haughty stump
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which you get from setting the denominator to 0

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because anything divided by zero is undefined

stuck finch
neon spade
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Yes

neon spade
stuck finch
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no

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yes

neon spade
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SORRY LOL

haughty stump
neon spade
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😭😭

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I’m tired man

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So I have it doesn’t equal -1

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Is it everything but -1?

stuck finch
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nope

haughty stump
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Alright so look at it this way

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you have a thing

stuck finch
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the domain you have to write with values of x

haughty stump
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that thing is this function

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you want to find the domain of this function

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the domain is dictated by the denominator

neon spade
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Oh okay

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So focus on the denominator

haughty stump
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you want to find all the times where the denominator is equal to 0 because that is when the function is undefined

stuck finch
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sinx not equal to -1 then what is x not equal to

neon spade
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-1

haughty stump
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So if you solve the equation 1 + sin2x = 0, which is the denominator equal to 0, then you will get where the domain is NOT

haughty stump
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so what is the double angle formula for sin2x

neon spade
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2sinxcosx

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Plug this in?

stuck finch
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no

neon spade
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Oh

stuck finch
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think of it as siny not=-1 y=2x

haughty stump
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alright so how do you cancel out sin on both sides?

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you now have sin2x = -1

neon spade
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Oh😭

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I’m sooo confused

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Yes

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I think

haughty stump
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the next logical step is to get rid of the sin

neon spade
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Get rid of sin?

haughty stump
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well yes because you want x by itself

neon spade
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-1/sin2

haughty stump
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thats not how sin works

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ANYWAYS

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what is the opposite of sin?

neon spade
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Csc

haughty stump
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opposite operation, not reciprocal

stuck finch
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khale i suggest you review all the basics first

neon spade
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Bro chill year js started

haughty stump
# neon spade -1/sin2

as to why this is wrong, sin is something that encases an angle, if you want to understand this better try and always type it using parenthesis: sin(2x)

haughty stump
stuck finch
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do you remember all standard trig values?

neon spade
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So no I didn’t refresh on that

haughty stump
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anyways basically what they do is get rid of their respective uninversed trig functions

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so sin^-1 (sin(x) is just x

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this means that if you apply a similar logic to the problem sin2x = -1

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you will have to figure out sin^-1 (-1)

neon spade
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Hm

stuck finch
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for now just find the value in (0,2pi)

haughty stump
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which is basically saying where is sin equal to -1

stuck finch
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sin of which angle yields the result -1 ?

neon spade
haughty stump
neon spade
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Yay

haughty stump
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so what equation do you end up with?

neon spade
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Wait what do I do with 3pi/2

haughty stump
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that was your answer to sin^-1 (-1)

neon spade
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Yeah so it’s js sin^-1(-1)=3pi/2?

haughty stump
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which was becuase you wanted to get rid of sin on both sides of the equation sin2x = -1

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so if you cancel out the sign on the left, and you got that as an answer on the right

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you there?

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lol

neon spade
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Yeaa

glossy basalt
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lol

haughty stump
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ngl i was half expecting you to answer when i stopped typing

neon spade
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Ok I looked at my answer but it says 3pi/4 + npi

neon spade
haughty stump
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alright well you got that right, but you still have 2x on the left

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and you want it by itself

haughty stump
neon spade
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Wait what’s the eq so far

neon spade
haughty stump
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are you not writing this down? xd

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anyways

neon spade
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Ima be honest I was in a cafe but I left cuz it was getting late and I still wanna understand 😭

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Sorry sorry

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U don’t have to help me 😭😭

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I feel bad LMAO

haughty stump
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2x = 3pi/4 + 2npi because you are accounting for every possible place where the domain of sin isnt

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thats kinda why everyone who is helping is here

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gives us superiority dopamine ykyk

neon spade
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LOL

haughty stump
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well its good that you at least know how to generalize a domain equation

haughty stump
neon spade
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X=3pi/2

haughty stump
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forgot something

neon spade
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+2npi!

haughty stump
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forgot something again

stuck finch
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you made a mistake

haughty stump
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what did you just do

neon spade
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Oh man

haughty stump
neon spade
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OH

haughty stump
neon spade
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JS npi

haughty stump
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eyyyy

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you got it

neon spade
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LMAO

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yay

haughty stump
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but 1 more thing

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you have to specify what n is

neon spade
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Integer

haughty stump
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not just an integer

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n is ALL integers

neon spade
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3pi/2 +npi and n is integer

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ALL

haughty stump
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woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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alright now

neon spade
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X is not that

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YAY oh my

haughty stump
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what is the domain

haughty stump
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congrats

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you have figured it out

neon spade
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Isn’t it all real number but that equation

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Yay

haughty stump
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si

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very cool stuff amiright

neon spade
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No not cool at all tbh I hate math

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But thank you for ur time

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anyways ".close" if you dont have anything else

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Kk

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how the hell do i do this

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algebra 1 consecutive integers

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my thought process was divide 70 by 4 and then subtract or add if they ask for least or highest

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but the amount i subtract or add by idk

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i did 0.5 once and it worked

teal turret
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Call the smallest integer g

uncut niche
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alright

teal turret
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How can we represent the next consecutive integer in terms of g

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(The next whole number after g)

uncut niche
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idk how to get the smallest number

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i dont know where to start lol

teal turret
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Reread my messages

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Yes

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How about the one after that

uncut niche
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g + 1 + 1 or g + 2

teal turret
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Yes

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How about the one after that

uncut niche
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g + 1 + 1 + 1 or g + 3

teal turret
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Yes

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So what’s our sequence?

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(In terms of g)

uncut niche
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g , g + 1 , g + 2 , g + 3?

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i think

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idk

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Yes

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Why’d u say idk

uncut niche
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because i dont

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i am just now learning this

teal turret
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What aren’t u understanding

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What consecutive integers are?

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For example: 6,7,8,9

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Consecutive integers

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1008, 1009, 1010

uncut niche
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i understannd

teal turret
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Ok, so we have

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g, g+1, g+2, g+3

uncut niche
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g , g + 1 , g + 2 , g + 3?

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yse

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yes

teal turret
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What does the problem tell us about this sequence

uncut niche
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x=16

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its 16

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16 17 18 19

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70

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this can be done with python bro i could write a script that does this easily

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and runs through every letter until the sum is equal to the thing we need

teal turret
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Well python is fake math

uncut niche
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basically

teal turret
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This is more essential and fundamental

uncut niche
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instead of just looping through every number

teal turret
uncut niche
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i need 3 consecutive integers

teal turret
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Nah answer my question

uncut niche
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g + 1 g + 2

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and they need to total to 225

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so ((x)+ (x + 1) + (x + 2)) = 225

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?

teal turret
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Idk what those commas mean

uncut niche
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sorry lol

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i was seperating them

teal turret
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Ok

uncut niche
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so ((x)+ (x + 1) + (x + 2)) = 225

uncut niche
teal turret
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U literally made an equation

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Solve it

uncut niche
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so i just guess for x?

teal turret
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Do u not know how to solve a one variable equation

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How would u solve 3x + 5 = 8

uncut niche
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subtract 5 from 8 | 3x = -3 | 3 / -3 | x = -1

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i think?

teal turret
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How did u get -3

uncut niche
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5 - 8

teal turret
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So u subtracted 8 from both sides?

uncut niche
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no i subtracted 5 from both sides

teal turret
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Then why is the 8 after the minus sign

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That means 8 is being subtracted

uncut niche
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x = 1 ?

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sorry for my bad handwriting

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i cant write on mouse

teal turret
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Yea x = 1

teal turret
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How would u solve this

uncut niche
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3x + 3 = 225

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3x = 222

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holy shit the puzzle pieces

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neuron activation

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74

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x = 74

teal turret
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Did u have later elementary/middle school during covid

uncut niche
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yes basically

uncut niche
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sorry if im slow 😔

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im trying to learn

teal turret
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Do what u can with what u have now

uncut niche
teal turret
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Before u do more coding, make sure to have ur math fundamentals down

uncut niche
teal turret
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Otherwise ur coding will take a hit in the future

uncut niche
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yes ik

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thank you for all the help

uncut niche
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3x + 3 = 195

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right?

teal turret
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U don’t need me

uncut niche
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i just wanna make sure my work is right

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befoer you go

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let me solve, and then can you review?

teal turret
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Be confident and just do it. Even if it’s wrong, you’ll learn

uncut niche
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3x + 3 = 195
3x = 192
192 / 3 = 64
x = 64
x + 1 = 65
x + 2 = 66
64 + 65 + 66 = 195

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lets gooo

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ty

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ty stephen

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Eric wants to make y=0?

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!da2a

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like

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we're not really allowed to straight up solve anything for you

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oh aight i see, its not like an official test, but homework

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what i need to know for this?

thorn summit
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which interval do you think x = -5 would fall into?

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is -5 less than -2, between -2 and 2, or greater than 2

limpid ether
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-5 is less

thorn summit
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mhm

limpid ether
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so its 1?

thorn summit
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yep!

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how do i close it

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.close

limpid ether
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thx

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you a W

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np

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In beginning my calculus undergrad class in my electrical engineering route and my teacher did something that I somewhat understand besides one part

The original equation was 3x^2+15x+6

We factored it to be 3(x^2+5x+2)

Afterwards, he stated that since the formula (a+b)^2=a^2+2ab+b^2 we can add a zero in by dividing the b term by two (in this case the b term was 5x) and then subtracting it by the same value, therefore Turning the equation into 3(x^2+5x+(5/2)^2-(5/2)^2+2)

Then he turned it into a perfect square place which resulted in
3((x+5/2)^2- 17/4

I understand he basically just reverse factored it, but why and how was he allowed to just do all of that? And why did he divide by 2?

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How do I find if the function is surjective or injective or both?

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I know the rules

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But sometimes it doesnt work for me

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Like for example f: Z->Z where g(x) = x^3 - x

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x(x-1)(x+1

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And lets say to check for injective function

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How would I find out?

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How do I check if x = y

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ye

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or no

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Idk

restive acorn
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So injective function means one to one

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In other words, each x value has a unique y value

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The definition you use to check for injective is as follows:

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So if you can show that for 2 different x values that f has the same value, you can disprove injective

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Well i know this one is not injective

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Because

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1 and -1 give the same value

autumn estuary
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is this enough proof that x!=y

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In that function

g(1) = g(-1)

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Therefore 2 distinct x.values had the same y value

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Therefore not injective

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i have to write this in parametric form. I get the answer (x,y,z)= (4,0,0) + t(1,1/2,1/3) but the correct answer from the book is (x,y,z)= (4,0,0) + t(6,3,2) isnt this the same line ?

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i dont get this

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whole warren
solemn basin
whole warren
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i got this answer but i cant see whats wrong

solemn basin
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Ohh it's undefined at 0 mb

whole warren
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yea

solemn basin
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Should be none of the above

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Since x = 8 is also a point of discontinuity

whole warren
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oh yea forgot about that option

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but its usually never that so i never even consider it

solemn basin
whole warren
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well i got it wrong

solemn basin
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How

whole warren
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idek

solemn basin
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What's the ans then?

whole warren
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it doesnt tell me

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i can take the quiz as much as i want but its diff questions each time

solemn basin
whole warren
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wait wym

solemn basin
dusk widget
solemn basin
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what do you think?

whole warren
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im trying

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0,5,6,8

dusk widget
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how did you come to that conclusion?

whole warren
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x/x-7 dont matter cuz its not within its piecewise domain

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right?

dusk widget
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I don't really understand what you mean by that eeveethink

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well, we can go through each possible discontunity one by one

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ah, let me see the picture

dusk widget
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the main issue I have is with 0, because the function isn't even defined at 0 eeveethink

dusk widget
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since it's not defined there, it can't possibly be continuous or discontinous there, technically

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BUT

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in a lot of high schools, you treat that as a discontinuity still

whole warren
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if its not defined there, then doesnt it mean that its gonna be a hole

dusk widget
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so I'm on the fence

whole warren
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meaning that it will be discontinous

dusk widget
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you can't speak of smth being continuous or not outside its domain

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like how you wouldn't say that sqrt(x) is continuous or discontinuous at x = -100

whole warren
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oh

dusk widget
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but...

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like I said

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that might be treated as a discontinuity still...

whole warren
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ig the math im doign rn isnt that deep yet

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thanks

dusk widget
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I'm not comfortable with it, but I think they want you to say it is one

dusk widget
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hm?

solemn basin
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wut even though it's not a part of the domain

dusk widget
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but this is just wrong ded

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@whole warren I say put 0 as one yeah

solemn basin
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Like take the function 1/x
It's discontinuous at x = 0
But x = 0 isn't a part of it's domain

dusk widget
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discontinuous at 0

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it is not defined at 0

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so it is not discont there

timid silo
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just draw a graph bro

dusk widget
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1/x is a continuous function

solemn basin
dusk widget
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no

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there is a difference here angerywoog

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1/x is not a function from R to R, it's a function from R / {0} to R

whole warren
dusk widget
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a function is continuous at $a$ if $\lim_{x \to a}f(x) = f(a)$

warm shaleBOT
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higher!

tardy epoch
dusk widget
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f needs to be defined at a

solemn basin
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Yea so since f isnt defined at 0 it can be called discontinues

dusk widget
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no

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read point 1

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f(x) is defined, that is, exists, at x = a

whole warren
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since a dont exist, then isnt it not continous

dusk widget
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riemann help cat_happycry

solemn basin
# dusk widget no

Vaguely u can argue that u will have to take off the pencil while graphing it at 0 altho it's rigorously wrong

dusk widget
solemn basin
dusk widget
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but it is just not correct catscreamcatscreamcatscream

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are you gonna say that f(x) = sqrt(x) is discontinuous at x = -10?

tardy epoch
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read more books, argue less

dusk widget
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by the other logic, sqrt(x) is discont here

solemn basin
dusk widget
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there is no difference between one point and infinitely many points

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if you're gonna claim that a function not being defined at one point means it is discont there, then you have to accept that a function not being defined at infinitely many points must be discont at all of them

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there is no in between

solemn basin
dusk widget
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no???

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that's not what a function is

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you need to state the domain and codomain before writing down your rule

tardy epoch
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you're just getting trolled now @dusk widget

dusk widget
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it doesn't suddenly switch mid-way

dusk widget
solemn basin
dusk widget
solemn basin
dusk widget
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what on Earth were your teachers smoking

solemn basin
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My teacher said that if they ask in exam that the point of discontinuity for 1/x just quietly mark 0 and say that altho it's not rigorous it's vaguely true

dusk widget
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"vaguely true"? cat_happycry

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are we doing maths based on vibes or what

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hi Platypus

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I don't even know anymore

pseudo swift
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don't we all ?

dusk widget
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damn, you have a point

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anyways... @whole warren have you entered your answer yet?

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hello Bungo

gilded needle
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as usual, you can read what chatgpt has to say and assume the opposite

dusk widget
whole warren
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yea i got it right

gilded needle
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^ "a point in the domain" and yet it may have "an undefined value" hahaha

solemn basin
dusk widget
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that the "correct" answer included 0

whole warren
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solemn basin
dusk widget
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ah?

solemn basin
# whole warren yea

Tomm go and argue with your teacher also give us his no we will talk to him CALMLY

dusk widget
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gilded needle
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what the hell, this function isn't even well defined

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try that formula with x=6

dusk widget
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but it's a discontinuity for them

solemn basin
gilded needle
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and yet it's not

dusk widget
gilded needle
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i could go along with "the function is not continuous at x=6" (since it's not even defined there), but you shouldn't say that x=6 is a point of discontinuity

solemn basin
dusk widget
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that makes me feel weird

solemn basin
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the whole "sqrt(x) suddenly switches up to become a complex-valued function when x < 0" was kinda insane though

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@whole warren if you're done here, you may close the channel btw

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could be done in a math or a physics way

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im in honors multivar and vector calc

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not quite sure how to handle this one

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Total upward force(vertical componentof tension) - total downward force(weight) =0

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Can you ss ?

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They said it in given

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i need help with 2

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tardy epoch
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what the hell is this question

high ermine
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its part b

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can i send thw whole thing

tardy epoch
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oh yes probably why no one's helped yet

high ermine
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ahah sorru

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sorry

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@tardy epoch

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is this enough

tardy epoch
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yea someone should be able to help

high ermine
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you ??? please

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How did they assume that multiplying the (x,y) coordinates at Q and R is A and B in the pythageron Therom respectively? I thought A and B were the side lengths

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how would i do this

stoic shell
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with out that

dusty grove
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have u tried trig angle addition

whole warren
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no whats that

dusty grove
whole warren
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that works for the numerator

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you cant do that for denominator right

dusty grove
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just do it twice

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first 2x + x

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then x + x

stoic shell
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sin is approx linear with small angles is also a valid approach

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2/3 🤔

daring sorrel
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I am thinking you should try multiplying by x/x

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daring sorrel
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You can individually find the limits of sin(2x)/x and x/sin(3x)

whole warren
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i got 2/3

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thanks that works

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np

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storm ridge
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Find all the real values of K (refer to the first equation written in the paper) such that the equation has exactly one solution

storm ridge
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I converted the original equation to quadratic form but afterwards I’m not sure what to do

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please correct me if I’m wrong I really want to get this right 🥲

candid yarrow
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since the variable of the quadratic is x

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oh right

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I didn't see that

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I'll edit my message

storm ridge
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So a=k and c=-3 ?

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how do I get b

candid yarrow
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Do you understand why a is k?

candid yarrow
storm ridge
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Could you explain why

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I’m having a hard time discerning the values

candid yarrow
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And you can also compare to see what b and c are

storm ridge
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b would be (2k-4) ?