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rough stump
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i did not do the second one

rain storm
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Its B I think
conjugate of z

half silo
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z/y= z y conjugate / |y|^2

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also conjugate ( a/b) = conjugate of (a)/ conjugate of (b)

rough stump
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i simplify both but both are not equal

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frigid cliff
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someone help me

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frigid cliff
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<@&286206848099549185>

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i dont understand what this is asking me to do

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all it says is" Evaluate the function graphically."

ebon shard
frigid cliff
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what does that mean

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how to solve this

ebon shard
# frigid cliff what does that mean

Take the limits $lim_{x\to3}^+$ and $lim_{x\to3}^-$

In this case, both limits exist and are equal to 3, therefore the limit as $x\to3 = -3$

The issue here is that while the limit exists, the function itself doesn't exist at that point due to it having a point discontinuity

warm shaleBOT
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The Cat Collective

frigid cliff
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I did do that but it says its wrong

ebon shard
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or is it open ended

frigid cliff
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its like this

ebon shard
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ohhh

frigid cliff
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i answered -3

ebon shard
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wait

frigid cliff
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but it says "incorrect"

ebon shard
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the point was moved

frigid cliff
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ok

ebon shard
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it's not just discontinuous

frigid cliff
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huh

ebon shard
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it's defined piecewise such that at 3 it's equal to positive 3

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so try +3 instead of -3

frigid cliff
wintry swift
ebon shard
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We glossed over the point being moved

ebon shard
frigid cliff
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ok im taking a risk

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thank you so much!!!

frigid cliff
ebon shard
frigid cliff
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umm i cant understand that write in like the equation

ebon shard
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Uhhh

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I have no idea how to do piecewise equations in LaTeX

frigid cliff
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its ok how about this

ebon shard
frigid cliff
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so (5, 1)

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oops

ebon shard
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for this one the function just doesn't exist at x=5

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because the left and right hand side limits don't approach the same value

frigid cliff
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wait so how do i answer this

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do i plot them?

ebon shard
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yea

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just plot it

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open circles on the end points

frigid cliff
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wait so

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would it just be

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x = -4

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and x = 5

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u sure?

empty maple
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$(-infty, -4)\cup(5, \infty)$

ebon shard
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yea

frigid cliff
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so on a graph

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how should it look like

ebon shard
frigid cliff
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ok

empty maple
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:/

frigid cliff
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idk how to

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its not pasting

ebon shard
# frigid cliff ok

for desmos put in these 2 equations to get your graph

y = {x < -4: x}
y = {x > 5: 1}

frigid cliff
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ok thanks!!

ebon shard
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you're welcome

frigid cliff
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but its like that

ebon shard
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you forgot the brackets

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you need the curly brackets

frigid cliff
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umm what are they called

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i cant paste them

ebon shard
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one sec

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lemme get an image for you

frigid cliff
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okkk

ebon shard
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here's your graph

frigid cliff
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ok thank you!

ebon shard
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you're welcome

frigid cliff
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would this be correct?

ebon shard
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I think so

frigid cliff
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it says its wrong

ebon shard
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damn

frigid cliff
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should i fill them in or something

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the dots

ebon shard
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no because it's inequalities

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and not less than or equal to or such

frigid cliff
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how do i do this

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i have one last try

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wait i changed it to these arrows

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do they mean infinite

ebon shard
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I have never seen that type of arrow before

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but you're welcome to try

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because I don't know

frigid cliff
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i hope i get right plz

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OKAY

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its right

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thank god phew

ebon shard
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heck yea!

frigid cliff
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thank you so much!!!

ebon shard
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good job /genuine

frigid cliff
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but how does it work

ebon shard
ebon shard
frigid cliff
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i need to show work for class as well

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😔

ebon shard
frigid cliff
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ohh ok!!

ebon shard
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would you like me to explain the limits for this too?

frigid cliff
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yes plz

ebon shard
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okay

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at x=-4, there is a left hand side (negative) limit

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but no right hand side limit bc it becomes discontinuous

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so the limit doesn't exist there

frigid cliff
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ohh

ebon shard
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at x=5 the limit doesn't exist either bc the here the right hand side (positive) limit exists but the left hand side limit doesn't

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the limit doesn't exist between -4 < x < 5 either by definition of the function

frigid cliff
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ohh wait so

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how did you figure this out

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do you put them together like -4 < x< 5

ebon shard
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yea

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okay so

frigid cliff
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ohhh ty!!

ebon shard
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the function exists by definition for x < -4 and x > 5

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now we know that -4 and 5 are open circles due to the hard inequality

frigid cliff
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yes

ebon shard
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and the function isn't defined between them

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therefore the limit not only doesn't exist at the points but between either

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does that make sense?

frigid cliff
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ohh yes'

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i understand now

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i actually can understand that woah

ebon shard
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:3

frigid cliff
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wait but shouldnt it be 5 < x < -4

ebon shard
frigid cliff
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ohhh

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ok thank you!!

ebon shard
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and if it were like that, we'd be saying that 5 is less than x is less than -4

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and that doesn't make sense

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5 isn't less than -4

frigid cliff
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howd you guys figure out that (5, 1) point is one

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and (-4, -4)

ebon shard
frigid cliff
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ohh okk

ebon shard
# frigid cliff its ok how about this

the first part of the definition can be read as "f of x equals x for all x values less than -4" and the second is "f of x equals 1 for all x greater than 5"

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I expanded it like that so you can see what's going on

frigid cliff
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ohh i kind of get it

ebon shard
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so the function here can be defined in "chunks"

frigid cliff
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not 100% though

ebon shard
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like lemme make a new piecewise function

frigid cliff
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ok!!

ebon shard
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f(x) = {1:x>0; -1:x<0}

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what do you think would happen here?

frigid cliff
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um -1<x<1?

ebon shard
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nope

frigid cliff
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no is it

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0

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or undefined

ebon shard
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so

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here

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y = 1 OR -1 only

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it equals -1 for all x less than 0

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and 1 for all x greater than 0

frigid cliff
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OHH

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now i get it

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ok so it can change

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under different conditions

ebon shard
frigid cliff
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ohhh

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and because its y = 1 it goes horizontal

ebon shard
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I'd recommend getting some practice with piecewise functions before doing any limit problems with them

frigid cliff
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okay i understand!!

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tysmm

ebon shard
ebon shard
# frigid cliff okokk

open desmos and play around with them, or google for some problem sheets online and try them

frigid cliff
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wait can i add you

ebon shard
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and/or if you have a precalculus book, they should have a chapter for this type of stuff

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yea sure

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brazen smelt
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Is there a way to transform these equations to the uv domain?

x-2y = 0
x-2y = -4
x+y = 4
x+y = 1

brazen smelt
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do you just randomly dictate which is u and v?

glossy yacht
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Find their intersections

brazen smelt
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What does that tell us?

glossy yacht
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Let me think of a better way to tell you

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Are you happy if I just do it?

brazen smelt
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sure

glossy yacht
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Also don’t forget your Jacobean

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I mention that because some funny stuff happens when you take the absolute of the determinant sometimes

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Don’t ask me what I don’t remember

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lol wot

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onyx flower
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given a sequence a_n such that lim a_n = infinity, prove:

onyx flower
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so in class we proved this with the constraint that a_n is a sequence of whole numbers

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but i dont understand what that changes

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why wouldnt the same proof work here as well?

gilded needle
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what was the proof for that case?

onyx flower
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they proved it with the definition

gilded needle
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well the key difference between the case where a_n are whole numbers vs the general case is that in the former, you have a subsequence of (1 + 1/n)^n, and in the latter you do not

onyx flower
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whats a subsequence?

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gilded needle
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a_n is a sequence, not a series

twilit meteor
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mb

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i meant sequence

onyx flower
gilded needle
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nobody's summing anything here

onyx flower
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ah

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so the proof from class is:

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so why doesnt this proof work without the constraint?

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short yew
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is this correct?

static spade
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-x - x/8 shouldn’t be -3x/2 in the second integral

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ashen schooner
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Can anyone verify what I'm doing wrong if anything?

ashen schooner
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First thing i do is distribute the -3 to each thing on the top

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and the 2 to everything in the denominator

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how do i get the - value positive? for a

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well for all

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Because everything on the top is now negative

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how would i put it all over 1 if that makes sense

ivory owl
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Instead of thinking of a fraction over a fraction, think of the numerator times the reciprocal of the denominator

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Let me make an image in a quick mnute

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*minute

ashen schooner
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Cause I'm having an issue with everything

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one second let me take a picture

ivory owl
ashen schooner
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like for what i circled why do we not just -8 from 3/2

ivory owl
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You can

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I just decided to move all of the exponents to the denominator first

ashen schooner
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you can do that-

ivory owl
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Yeah

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Let me get another image ready

ashen schooner
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Yeah I know that part

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But on the thing it multiplied everything by 2

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Is it because it doesn't have a common denominator? (The exponents)

ivory owl
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Ohh, I think I know what you mean

ashen schooner
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Yeah

ivory owl
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So you're doing (3/2) - 8

ashen schooner
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yeah

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I think it's because it's 8/1 right

ivory owl
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Yeah

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And then you multiple 8/1 by 2/2

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And because 2/2 = 1, and anything times 1 is itself it ends up working

ashen schooner
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so if you move a negativen number to the denominator it's not negative anymore right

ashen schooner
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So is moving everything to the denominator easier?

ivory owl
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It depends on your style

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For me it was

ashen schooner
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I think I will because it seems generally easier

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As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.

ashen schooner
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breathes..

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ashen schooner
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I have all the answers i just wanna se the process like this for example

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I'm confued how

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ohh-

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i didn't see the *5 😭

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okay i think that's it thanks so much

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"S1 is the line segment
u = v, 0 ≤ u ≤ 5, so y = v = u and x = u2 = y2."

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How is this obtained from transformations??

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nvm, just bounds.

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could anone verify the answer to question 5d is 72 degrees?

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mellow glacier
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so 180-72

onyx olive
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how come?

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is 72 the reference angle

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ahh

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tardy roost
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Need help on 28

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How do i get 2 answers? I can only get 1 which is 10

heavy shore
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do you know the properties of the modulus function?

tardy roost
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Nope

heavy shore
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|-x| = x so you have to take both the values

tardy roost
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Ah

heavy shore
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for x<3/2; 2x-3 - (6-x) = 13 because the modulus function will make it positive

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3/2 ≤ x<6; -2x+3 - (6-x) = 13
x≥6; -2x+3 - (x-6) = 13
solve for all three equations

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@tardy roost you get it now?

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Ill try

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Ok i got ot thanks

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Hello teachers

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midnight parcel
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question about the equation, I am pretty sure that this is a -cot with a period of 180, but I am lost on how to get to the equation

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tepid sapphire
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problem is that this is not really a $-\cot(x)$ curve since $-\cot (0) = -\frac{\cos 0^{\circ}}{\sin 0^{\circ}} = -\frac{1}{0}$, which is clearly not defined, but in the graph we see $f(0)=1.5$.

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Crystopher

midnight parcel
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i am not really understanding

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how is it f(0)=1.5?

tepid sapphire
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because the image you gave, which represents the graph of a function (the one you need to find) says so.

midnight parcel
tepid sapphire
midnight parcel
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that's the asymptote right?

tepid sapphire
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no, the graph clearly states there is continuity, to prove that that point is in fact a removable discontinuity of $-\cot (x)$ you would need to prove that $\lim_{x\to 0} -\cot x = 1.5$. But if you tried to do that you would realize that the limit $\lim_{x\to 0} -\cot x$ does in fact not exist.

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Crystopher

midnight parcel
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we haven't gotten to limits yet

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this is review from precalc i think

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so its supposed to be just trig functions

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so i am very confused now

tepid sapphire
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yes, it is a trig function, what I am saying is that $-\cot (x)$ is not that function.

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Crystopher

midnight parcel
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yea, i know that, i just wrote -cot(x) as a base because I thought it was a -cot function

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since it looks similar

tepid sapphire
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try tan(x) instead

midnight parcel
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this one does not really fit to me as my graph thing does not start at 0.0

tepid sapphire
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yes, but what if you shift it 1.5 units upwards?

tepid sapphire
midnight parcel
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sort of

tepid sapphire
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well, even so, you can have C=1.5 there

midnight parcel
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c is the amplitude tho?

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i thought tan/cot don't have that

tepid sapphire
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I'm speaking of C as in the image you sent

midnight parcel
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hmm that's for cos

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so for cot/tan would be that without C?

tepid sapphire
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yes, but you can also have tan(x)+1.5.

midnight parcel
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ahh I think im understanding

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but the period is 180?

tepid sapphire
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what does the graph say?

midnight parcel
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to me, 180

tepid sapphire
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yes, it is clearly 180

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so, let's say your function is $f(x)=A\tan (B(x-\alpha))+C$

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Crystopher

midnight parcel
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mhm

tepid sapphire
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We begin noting that $B=1$, since the period is $180^{\circ}$

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Crystopher

midnight parcel
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and that's always the case when its 180?

tepid sapphire
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yes, in a tan or cot function, form $f(x)=\tan(Bx)$ the period is $\frac{180^{\circ}}{B}$, for sin and cos, namely as in $g(x)=\sin (Bx)$ it would be $\frac{360^{\circ}}{B}$

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Crystopher

midnight parcel
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okay so for now its A tan (1(x-a))+C

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A does not exist here

tepid sapphire
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next we look at $\alpha$

warm shaleBOT
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Crystopher

midnight parcel
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mhm

tepid sapphire
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what does it represent?

midnight parcel
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period? I am not certain though

tepid sapphire
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no, that would be B, which we said has value 1 here, $\alpha$ represents a horizontal shift of the graph.

warm shaleBOT
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Crystopher

tepid sapphire
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so the graph of $\tan (x-\alpha)$ is the same as the graph of $\tan (x)$ but shifted $\alpha$ units to the right

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Crystopher

midnight parcel
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so alpha a is a shifting thing?

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horizontal

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and C vertical

tepid sapphire
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Yes, to have a better intuition you can try the next setup in desmos or geogebra to see how it behaves when $\alpha$ changes

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Crystopher

midnight parcel
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so then the answer should be just tan (x+1.5)

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no, first the 1.5 is outside, since it is vertical shift, $\alpha = 0$ since we see in the graph of the searched function that it is not in fact shifted horizontally, so far we have $f(x)=A\tan (x) + 1.5 $

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I thought it was the amplitude

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we use this point

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if says that $f(45^{\circ}) = 4.5$

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right

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and we have $f(x) = A\tan (x) + 1.5$

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what does that do tho?

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then $f(45^{\circ}) = A\tan (45^{\circ}) + 1.5$\
since $f(45^{\circ})=f(45^{\circ})$ then\ $A\tan (45^{\circ}) + 1.5 = 4.5$, then you just solve for $A$.

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but why?

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this might sound dumb but I really don't understand why we do that

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you mean this? $A\tan (45^{\circ}) + 1.5 = 4.5$

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yea

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well, our goal is to find out what A is here, so it would come in handy to have an equation from which you can solve A, this equation was found by knowing that the point $(45,1.5)$ is on the graph. Since it is on the graph, then it must be true that $f(45^{\circ})=A\tan (45^{\circ})+1.5 = 4.5$, so we need to find the A value that makes $A\tan (45^{\circ})+1.5 = 4.5$ true.

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then after we find A, do we use it in the equation? And that equation defines this whole function?

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yes, if we chose an arbitrary A, it would be likely that $f(45^{\circ}) \neq 4.5$, which would mean that our function $f(x)$ would not represent the graph.

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okay but I am still very lost

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Well, you can see it as we needing to determine A so that our function goes through that point (45,4.5). It is like we are trying to fit our function to the graph it is supposed to represent.

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yes that makes sense

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Alright, our function $f(x) = A\tan(x) + 1.5$, passes through the point $(45, A\tan(45^{\circ})+1.5)$, and we want it to pass through $(45,4.5)$, so both coordinates must be the same, so for x-coordinate $45=45$, obviously true, for y-coordinate we need $A\tan(45^{\circ})+1.5 = 4.5$ so that $f(45^{\circ}) = 4.5$, which is what we want to achieve.

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okay so we have to calculate A

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sorry its 1 am for me and my brain's dead

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can we just plug that in to the calculator?

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no need, should be easy enough to do by hand. Do you know what $\tan(45^{\circ})$ is?

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Crystopher

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1

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yes, so it becomes $A+1.5=4.5$, which gives $A=3$

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so 3tan(x)+1.5

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yes, as a side note you could also do this with a -cot curve since $-\cot (x-90^{\circ})=\tan (x)$, so alternatively $f(x)=-3\cot (x-90^{\circ})+1.5$, but you see that it is simpler to just state it as a tan function instead.

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that makes sense but what if a different point was given for this graph, this equation should work anyways

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yes, you input whatever point is given and solve for A. In theory you could have 4 of these points to find all of $A,B,C,\alpha$ by forming an equation system and solving for all variables, but then you need to be sure that any pair of points do not give equivalent equations.

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can i ask you a seperate question

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go ahead

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what topic is this?

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i know its still trig

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or like if you know anything about this

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trig + quadratics, an easy way of doing it is by replacing $u=\sin (t)$, then it becomes $2u^2-u-1=0$ which you should be able to solve, then, when you find the solutions you substitute back $\sin (t) = u$ and solve for $t$ in each root.

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this example is similar in essence

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it does not substitute directly but the core idea is the same so to speak

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i am dead

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How do I find that theta is less than π/2

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this might be a weird way of doing it but if theta = arcsec(x), then at x=1 theta = 0 and as x approaches infinity arcsec(x) approaches pi/2 as thus theta will approach pi/2

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do u know what arcsec looks like?

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oh the background

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oh well

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well remember that x>1

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u should be able to determine the range

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Range of sec inverse is (0,π)

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its actually [0,pi/2)U(pi/2,pi)

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but thats besides the point

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Oh sorry I got confused with cot

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remember that x>1 so we are just looking at that line on the right

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helppp!!!

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May i have help with how they got the N value

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like where did they get n = 12 from? what information tells us this?

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I got d^3/8 g^5/8 d^1/4 g^1/4

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could someone please tell me why $\frac{a^4-(a+1)^2}{a^2-a-1}$ is equal to $a^2 + a + 1$?

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its a difference of squares

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might be more helpful to write a^2-a-1 as a^2-(a+1)

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lemme see

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but why is it + a + 1

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shouldn't it be - a -1?

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it's not +a+1 that he wrote

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it's -(a+1)

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like maybe to see it

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what's x^2 - y^2?

full minnow
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I get that

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(x+y)(x-y)?

fossil crag
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yep

full minnow
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I mean

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so what's a^4 - (a+1)^2

full minnow
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a^4-(a^2 + 2a +1)?

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no...

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that's not what we wanted

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Wait

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here, can you cancel out the - sign?

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no...

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you told me that x^2 - y^2 is (x+y)(x-y)

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which is correct

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so

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what is a^4 - (a+1)^2

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big hint... a^4 = (a^2)^2

full minnow
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oh, I was wondering if you wanted me to do that

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lemme try

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$(a²+a+1)(a²-a-1)$?

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yeah

full minnow
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oof, the latex fail

fossil crag
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^2 for latex

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not ²

full minnow
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do I also need to do that for the denominator?

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and then simplify?

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well no, isn't it obvious already

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wait

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Nvm

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the numerator is $(a^2+a+1)(a^2-a-1)$

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Thank you very much

fossil crag
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so what happens when you divide by a^2 - a - 1

full minnow
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you end up with a²+a+1

fossil crag
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yes

full minnow
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Tysm

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But how would I do it in the future

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like similar questions?

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do I just need to recognise the pattern

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yes

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always learn your factorisation formulas

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if you see some thing that looks like ...^2 + 2...*... + ...^2

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start thinking about (a+b)^2

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yet another crypto scam link to add to the pile

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I was trying to proceed using Vieta's Formula

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$12^3=1728$

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lemme try the q

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where does the - in the second row come from?

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im only confused by the left side of the equation

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partial fractions

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ok thank you, is it some weird stuff? cause I seriously dont understand why that works on first look

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$2x+5$ is algebraic and hence continuous, just plug in

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when you use stokes theorem, the area integral is supposed to be the area contained by the path right??

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but if you have a vector field that is contained ina smaller area than that contained by the line/path, do you integrate only with respect to that area with the area integral?

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The vector field has to be defined and be C^1 in (and a bit around) the surface, so it wouldn't happen

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if the vector field doesn't extend all the way to the path then it doesn't make sense to integrate

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im trying to figure out why my prof has integrated the surface with respect to a different boundary than he integrated the path

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Can you show?

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yeah im bringing it up to i can bring context

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Okok

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so the premise is theres a current carrying wire and I have to find the H field

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anyways, the crux of the solution is applying stoke's theorem

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So I understood the boundaries for the interior

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but then for the outside, it seems like he integrates only to a

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on the left side, the path is integrated to p

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thats the only way the mathematics works here

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if its not clear what im saying ill come back later with a more fleshed out solution

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If I'm not mistaken, the local field depends on the enclosed current, so once you go beyond the wire's radius, you're not adding more current, so you just stop at a

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can someone help with this?

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!status

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Do you know how to read a pie chart, firstly?

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yes, i think the answer is 12 is that correct?

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Uh. No.

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Yes. I did not see the 35-40 sector. Lol.

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So, yes, 12 is correct.

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Is this the final solution? Or do I need to do something else?

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Well the limit is supposed to be a number, there should be no x's remaining in there.

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I was wondering if anyone could help me with a question about surds?

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I am quite confused on how to simplify it 😭

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Work on sqrt(8)

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So then would it be 3√2 + √2^2+2 ?

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Is it ok with you if you can tell me the steps?

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Factor 8 in prime numbers

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But once I have done that, I need to simplify the equation as a single surd

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Thats the part I am confused about

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asqrt(b)=sqrt(a^2b)

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You start factoring 8

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Tell me what you get

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I got √2^2*2

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Ok, you can rewrite 2^2 * 2 the inside

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2sqrt(3)=sqrt(12)

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And find the square root of one of then

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exception of imaginary numbers and 0

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Not because of imaginary numbers, but because you create false solutions

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If you have -2sqrt(3) you cant say thats sqrt(-2)^2 * 3) = sqrt(12)

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I don't know

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What if u write like

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Do you know this property for positive numbers?

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

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so then it would become 3√2 + √4 + √2 which is 3√2 + √2 + 2 ...?

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No

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wait wut

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Oh

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reef tendon
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sqrt(8) does not equal sqrt(4)+sqrt(2)

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its multiply

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Ok

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I don't know, I am so confused right now sorry

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Lets go back to here

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to multiply

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what do you have?

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Sqrt(8) = sqrt(2^2) * sqrt(2)

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So would instead then be 3√2 + 2 * √2?

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Is the answer 5√2?

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That looks good

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OHHH

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That helped a lot 🥰

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is there anyway to find the c value without a calculator?

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the answers use solve N for the c value

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i cant seem to use it

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is there any other way to do this manually e.g first integrate (but the Cs cancel out)

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Is this a viable way to derive the volume of a sphere?:

$r^3-2\int_{-r}^{r}\int_{-\sqrt{r^2-x^2}}^{\sqrt{r^2-x^2}}\sqrt{r^2-x^2-y^2}dydx$

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Josh ♚

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If so I'm not sure how to actually go about solving the integral

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Oh

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@keen verge is there a way to use double integrals to calculate it?

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No idea what that is 👍

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Can I explain my logic?

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I'm somewhat new to double integrals tbh

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I know my integral is wrong but I was thinking

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Consider a sphere of radius r and centre (0,r,0)

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Half of it's volume will be the volume of a cylinder centred on (0,0,0) with height r, minus the volume between the sphere and the xy plane above the circle x²+y²=r², no?

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Yeah is there not a way to use that fact?

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Using double integrals??

keen verge
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Ah, okay I see your logic now

molten torrent
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But the integral was scuffed lol

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Um, I suppose so, but it would make significantly more sense to use cylindrical coordinates or spherical coordinates to describe the region of intergration as opposed to Cartesian coords. It would be much easier to solve. Even then you’d have to describe the region in 3 dimensions and when solving the triple integral directly you’d get at least one of those variables of integration would be fairly trivial to solve pretty much giving you a double integral anyways

molten torrent
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So uhhh

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What 😭

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Bro I'm an A level student, in the grand scheme at things I'm at the braindead infant skill level idk half of what you're talking about

keen verge
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So ig long story short if you want to derive the volume of a sphere using integrals look at changing how you describe the region

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Using sphereical coordinates or cylindrical coords most likely

molten torrent
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Ah okay

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I have one more question

keen verge
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Yeah?

molten torrent
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Much more basic

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I just did the double integral thingy for a cylinders volume successfully, with the following integral

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$\int_{-r}^{r}\int_{-\sqrt{r^2-x^2}}^{\sqrt{r^2-x^2}}h;dxdy$

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Josh ♚

molten torrent
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Where h is the cylinder height (dxdy should say dydx)

keen verge
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I think you’ve got your x and y mixed up

molten torrent
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Yes I have

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It's late lol I can't write

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But anyways so let's say the circular face was an eclipse

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*ellipse

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How would the r and -r bounds change?

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I know how the other bounds would change

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But would they just stay the same if r is the furthest point on the ellipse form the origin?

keen verge
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Hmm, well, assuming you’ve got the other one right, it would just be a matter of integrating over the x variable since you’ve restrained your y variable to region anyways

molten torrent
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Okay let's assume an ellipse centred at (0,0,0)

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The ellipse will be $\frac{x^2}{a^2}+\frac{y^2}{b^2}=1$

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Josh ♚

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$\int_{?}^{?}\int_{-\sqrt{b^2(1-\frac{x^2}{a^2})}}^{\sqrt{b^2(1-\frac{x^2}{a^2})}}h;dydx$

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Josh ♚

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What would the question marks be @keen verge?

keen verge
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Well, it’s should be -a and a I’m pretty sure

molten torrent
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Yeah I thought that at first

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Also that integral looks cursed in latex

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Anyways ty for the help @keen verge

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All good.

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how does this pass the rules for a vector field? thanks!

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like distibutivity of scalar multiplication over scalar addition

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(1+1)*1= 1x1+1x1 -> 2 !=1

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or is it the case that 1+1 = 1 so (1+1)*1= 1 = 1x1+1x1

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given that the set is only 1 would r always have to be 1?

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With the rule

daring steppe
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yeah

rigid plaza
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With the current set

daring steppe
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gotcha

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but if the set was s={x} where x is in R^1

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it would not be a vector space

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if the rule was

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1+x=1

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because (1+1)2 =4 = 2x1+2x1 !=1

rigid plaza
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2 just being a random choice from R^1

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Not a product of two elements which need not be defined

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So r can be anything in the field

daring steppe
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So any real number

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ah

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ok

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so according to the rule i could have any number in R^1 * 1 = 1

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Yes

daring steppe
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thats so funky

rigid plaza
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It is basically turning every operation on 1 into identity

daring steppe
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right

daring steppe
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We don't have the multiplication rule defined for when it is not acting on 1

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So the question doesn't really make sense

daring steppe
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ah

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if we kept the same one of r*x=1

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Then you don't have closure

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yeah

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ok thanks for the help!

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Np

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The problem says it’s either 16.5, 6, or 7.5 and I am unsure of what it is as I got 10.67. What is x?

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please show your steps @opal vine

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in particular, I think one of the options are correct indeed.

opal vine
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Ok

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What is the rationale for $LN+NP=MN+NO$?

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Your LaTeX Helper

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I did it because it was on the same side so the line would continue on and total that amount but idrk

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Have you been taught that $LN/NP=MN/NO$?

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I do an online thing and they only provide videos and they didn’t give a video explaining that so I wasn’t taught that shape

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Given that $LN/NP=MN/NO$, then, can you solve the problem?

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Got it, thanks!!

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open spoke
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can someone explain what this dfa accepts and why?

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see if you can think of some example sequences maybe?

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sure, that's the middle part
something, followed by any number of zeros, followed by something

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reading off the chart directly i would say
any number of 1s (any number, including none), then 0, then 0, then anything

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claim

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hello I dont know why this is a wrong answer

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before I move onto the second part I want to check my progress on this question, fair warning it is super messy

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How would I do this? I don't want the answer, just need how to do it explained, thanks?

night crown
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and could someone explain the terminology too

molten stirrup
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wdym terminology

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the instructions?

night crown
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yeah

molten stirrup
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rational here based on the context is natural number

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Yes!

molten stirrup
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equivilent is equak

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Hello

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whats concerning u

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the way ppl randomly vanish @night crown

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he clearly said explained

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# molten stirrup he clearly said explained

So, if you notice the 5 is just tripled (5 • 3) to = 15, you can repeat this same pattern and multiply the 3 on top by the same process, meaning the 3 would equal 9! 🙂

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again, I do not want an answer, just explain what the work is and how to do it please, thanks

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~help

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help

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calc 1

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please

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i've been doing this homework for the last uh...2 hours and 30 minutes

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and like i understand the concept its just i keep somehow getting the answer wrong

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this is the work i have

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but when i plug in it ends up being like

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7k then 700k

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which i know is wrong

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please

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please

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please

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plz

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plz

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<@&286206848099549185> its been 15 minutes yo i need help 🔥

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I think you're plugging things in wrong then, because your formula is right.

haughty coral
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im so confused

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wouldnt i just plug in -3.01 for x into the formula i got

shut lagoon
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Yes

haughty coral
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so it would be -3.01^2

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times4

shut lagoon
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But it doesn't yield 7k

haughty coral
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+1

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-37

shut lagoon
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Are you doing (-3.01)^2

haughty coral
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and then divide by -0.01

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yes

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oh my gosh

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bro

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🙂

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im embarrassed and sad and frustrated

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Your disappointment is immeasurable

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Ik the shapes don’t look the same but aren’t they vertical angles? Bc their tips are touching like that idk

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And why do the vertical angles work here if the shapes also don’t look the same …

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zoom in on the angle itself

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the shapes they connect to dont matter

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its vertical 'angles' not vertical shapes

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The angles look about the same to me

heavy depot
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theyre vertical

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they are the same

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theyre vertical bc you can mirror the whole angle system to make the two congruent

fallen inlet
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But there’s still not enough info?

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theres never really enough information to tell if an angle is vertical

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you kinda just have to guess

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i mildly hate how its just assumed

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the reason vertical angles work is because they are formed by two lines intersecting each other and creating angles

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as an example for the first image they should really tell you that "Point E such that it lies on segments CF and BG" but its just assumed most of the time 🤷‍♂️

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can $-[1-x]$ be written as $-1-[-x]?$ (if $[\cdot]$ denotes greatest integer function)

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pun pun

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Mb

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np

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hey can any one help me tomorrow at 8:30 with some Hw it’s an online class pls i would do it but im out of time and my class finishes tm.

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please help idk what to do