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sage geode
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Yes

serene mural
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OMG THANKS I have exam tomorrow, thank you, my brains are fried

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obtuse pebbleBOT
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serene mural
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I still didn't got it 😦

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How can we divide 10^x by 4^x

stoic yacht
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you get 10^x / 4^x = (10/4)^x

sage geode
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a^x/b^x = (a/b)^x

serene mural
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It will become fraction is that ok? Like 2.5 are fine, or 1/4?

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I still didn't got it, sorry

sage geode
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10/4 becomes 5/2

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So keep it as (5/2)^x for now

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Now think about what to do with 25^x/4^x

serene mural
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What we do?

sage geode
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25^x/4^x = (25/4)^x = ((5/2)^x)^2

serene mural
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Am I following the right path?

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I know I might be too dumb, but I'm still learning, right?

sage geode
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Why are you multiplying?

serene mural
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I don't know what I'm doing.

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  • My mother language is different
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So I'm kinda lost.

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We actually never did Exponent Equations with fractions with teacher, lol..

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Still have youtube tutors at least

sage geode
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\begin{align*}
2\cdot25^x - 5\cdot10^x + 2\cdot4^x &= 0 \
2\cdot\frac{25^x}{4^x} - 5\cdot\frac{10^x}{4^x} + 2 &= 0 \
2\cdot!\left(\frac{25}4\right)^x - 5\cdot!\left(\frac{10}4\right)^x + 2 &= 0 \
2!\left(\left(\frac52\right)^x\right)^2 - 5!\left(\frac52\right)^x + 2 &= 0 \
\end{align*}

warm shaleBOT
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A Lonely Bean

sage geode
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Now you have a quadratic equation where (5/2)^x is the unknown

serene mural
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That's what I needed, thank you

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a lot simpler to understand

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Can you also help me with Discriminant?

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I've got -41, this is not good

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Oh, I wrote -25 instead of 25 because -5 x -5 = 25, not -25

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Nobody will help me with this.

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barren flax
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i need help on dipole movements
the bond S--P
is it ^δ-S --> P^δ+, or P^δ+ --> ^δ-S?

another question:
in this pair, which species is larger? (explain your reasoning in terms of the electron strucure of each species)
Mg^2+ or Mg

worn yoke
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the more electronegative element will have the partial negative charge in the dipole

pulsar quarry
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i can answer your second question though

barren flax
pulsar quarry
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but first did u understand what cloud just told u?

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r u clear with that question?

barren flax
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isnt it supposed to be P^δ+ --> ^δ-S?

barren flax
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i think my textbook might be wrong

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im not sure though

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the dipole movement points to the more electronegative atoms

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so why is it pointing to the less electronegative atom in my textbook

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is my textbook wrong?

worn yoke
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can you post a picture of the problem and its solution?

barren flax
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it just says to draw a figure indicating the direction of the bond dipole, including which end of the bond is positive and which is negative

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the bond is S--P

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my text book says the answer is ^δ-S --> P^δ+

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but i think it should be P^δ+ --> ^δ-S

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the dipole should point to the most electronegative atom since it attracts more electrons

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but maybe im missing something that makes the text book right

worn yoke
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well it should look something like this

barren flax
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so my text book is wrong

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okay thank you sm

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may you help with the second question though?

worn yoke
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in general, for the same element we would expect the species with more electrons to be bigger

barren flax
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so it would be Mg?

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Mg^2+ gains two electrons right

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i mean

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loses

worn yoke
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yes

barren flax
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okay thank you

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molten yew
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Need help with this

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stoic yacht
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the formula of the volume of a cylinder is V = pi*r^2*h

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and the volume of a cone is 1/3*pi*r^2*h

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using these, as well as the fact that the heights of the cylinder and cone are x and the radius is x, you can add the volumes of the two shapes to get the total enclosed volume

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and by setting that expression of x equal to the volume they gave you, you can solve for x

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small pewter
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I need help with finding the surface area of a certain shape I have a test on may 21 and i still don't know how to find the surface area can someone help

stoic yacht
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show

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for future reference don't ask to ask, just ask the question

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makes it faster for everyone

small pewter
stoic yacht
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the question??

small pewter
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give me shape

keen verge
# small pewter give me shape

Yeah, what kinda surface? Like just a normal shape, or are you trying to use surface integrals? You might have to be more specific. Can you find an example of what you're asking for?

small pewter
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How to find a surface area of dimensional shape

keen verge
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Yeah, I know lol. I mean how? using what method? There are lots of ways to do this, but if your talking about just a cube or smth or something more complex where you have to use surface integrals there is an incredibly huuuge difference

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In terms of difficulty anyways

small pewter
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wait a sec

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@keen verge

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so for every shape there has to be a different formula ?

keen verge
# small pewter

Kinda. U pretty much just find the area of all the sides and add them together

small pewter
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is that easy ?

keen verge
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Depends who u ask ofc. In this case, it just uses a bit of trig. And then the bottom is just and square and the four sides are just triangles, so thise areas are pretty easy to find

small pewter
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wait am try to solve it and u check if it's correct ok ?

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the answer is 33 am i correct ?

keen verge
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Nah, pretty sure it's like 99 or smth

small pewter
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what

keen verge
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Remember the area area of a triangle is bh/2

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So you gotta find the height of the triangle

small pewter
keen verge
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Using pythag most likely

small pewter
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alr i'm confused

keen verge
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No that's the height of the pyramid

small pewter
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can you explain in simple words pls if you don't mind

keen verge
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Sorry, I gotta get to my lecture. Maybe someone else can explain, otherwise just look up Pythagoras' theorem

small pewter
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alr

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brittle lodge
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The area of this pyramid is made out of a 5x5 square base and 4 5cm x y where y is the height of the triangle

small pewter
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the teacher said she will give us a sheet of formula so we don't have to memorise

brittle lodge
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Realise that u can find y using Pythagoras

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Oh then thats good

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But its always better to know how to solve it without the formula

small pewter
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it's pretty hard

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how do you guys know how to solve this

brittle lodge
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Break the question down and see what u know/dont know

small pewter
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I'm dumb I don't get anything

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where is biscuit

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im going

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ripe hazel
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how is the inverse wrong

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tame narwhal
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plus/minus?

ripe hazel
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ah right

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thats just for questions with even degrees tho right

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x^2,4,6,etc

bright inlet
# ripe hazel how is the inverse wrong

a function needs to be one-to-one to have an inverse, if you have a graph calculator at your side you can easily check for one-to-one'ness by graphing it and doing a horizontal line test

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or you can recognize that it fails the one-to-one property because it's an even function

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wooden cipher
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try taking out the F

ripe hazel
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i did it didnt work

wooden cipher
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also it seems you plugged in the wrong value of C

ripe hazel
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i plugged 5 and -10

wooden cipher
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show me how you did it for 5

ripe hazel
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9/5 (5) + 32

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ah

wooden cipher
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you got it now?

ripe hazel
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yea

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have a diff problem tho

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i tried graphing this and it didnt make sense

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smoky vigil
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okay, increasing and decreasing has this very neat trick. you know about positive and negative slopes/gradients of lines right?

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like y=2x+1 has positive slope/gradient, y=-5x has negative slope, etc

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@ripe hazel

ripe hazel
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kinda

smoky vigil
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now imagine the line that hugs the curve at a particular point

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like

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like these

ripe hazel
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this is alg2

smoky vigil
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you could say the black line has a negative slope, and red line as positive slope right?

ripe hazel
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yea

smoky vigil
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and what a bout the green line?

ripe hazel
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0 slope

smoky vigil
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mhm

ripe hazel
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tangent to the point

smoky vigil
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so increasing means the intervals where the line has positive slope

ripe hazel
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i know that already

smoky vigil
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and decreasing means the interval where the lines has negative slope :)

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so

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hmmm

ripe hazel
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put the equation into desmos and it returns the values i re entered into the problem

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but womp womp theyre wrong

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so i messed up somewhere

smoky vigil
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did you try 1.15? maybe they're rounding down? is it expecting you to use graphing caluclator/desmos? I assume so

ripe hazel
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ill try rounding down

smoky vigil
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ah yes

ripe hazel
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yea that was it

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it just shows up as 1.155 for me so

smoky vigil
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you can zoom in on desmos and it'll show more decimals

ripe hazel
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ok thanx

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rare raven
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AD is double of DG
AB is double of BC

a vector = AB vector
b vector = AD vector

rare raven
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How do I find these?

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frosty orchid
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is there any additional information such as which vectors are parallel?

rare raven
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yeah

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AC, DF, GI Parallel
AG, BH, CI Parallel

frosty orchid
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what have you done currently?

rare raven
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AE = a + b

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EI = b/2 + a/2

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FG = a + a/2 + b/2 ?

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DH + EG = b/2

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@frosty orchid I don't know if I am correct

frosty orchid
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AE and EI are correct, give me a second to think about the next two

rare raven
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👍

frosty orchid
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FG is verry close

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I think you made a similar mistake in the last one

rare raven
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oh

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what'd i do wrong?

rare raven
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but i dont see how

frosty orchid
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lets start on FG

rare raven
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oki

frosty orchid
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can you tell me what DF is?

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or better how did you get to
FG = a + a/2 + b/2
cause that's pretty close and it's better if you use your method

rare raven
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ok

rare raven
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so a/2 + a + b/2

frosty orchid
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ok so I think that this is the one thing you are missing: vectors have direction

rare raven
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oh

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💀

frosty orchid
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if you have DG is 1/2b so whats GD?

rare raven
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-1/2b

frosty orchid
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I think you know how to solve the problem
@me if you have any issues

rare raven
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so is answer -a -a/2 + b/2?

frosty orchid
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that is what I got

rare raven
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you got same?

frosty orchid
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yes

rare raven
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this one i will check too

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actually

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i dont understand

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because

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DH + EG

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It starts at D

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and ends at G

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so why cant i just go straigt from D to G?

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which is b/2

frosty orchid
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if you look at the individual values of DH and EG you accumulate b/2 twice, but you are correct a cancels.

rare raven
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ok so

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what i did wrong was i didn't use direction

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and

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I didn't look at each vector

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?

frosty orchid
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that makes since

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when you add vectors they are tip to tail

rare raven
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yeah let me try solve this now

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a + b/2 - b/2 - a + b/2

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this wrong too

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I went to DH

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then I went from DH to EG

frosty orchid
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what are you getting for DH?

rare raven
rare raven
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don't I need go there too?

frosty orchid
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are you not calculating the intermediat value of DH?

rare raven
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whats that

frosty orchid
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DH = b/2 + a

rare raven
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o

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bruh

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i am supposed to do that

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get the value for each vector

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then add them togheter

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I was going to DH to EG

frosty orchid
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ah I see you are probably missing a wierd vector fact, let me find a diagram

rare raven
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ok

frosty orchid
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hangon that was the wrong one

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there it is

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the weird vector fact is that vectors do not have a posistion

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vectors only have magnitude (length) and direction

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so you can think of vectors as being an offset from some point

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in this case one of the points A through I

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so when you add two offsets you start at the the offset of one and go to the offset of the second

rare raven
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so

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AG + AC

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IS AI?

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@frosty orchid

frosty orchid
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yes

rare raven
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wow cool

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but one thing that confuses me

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why people use position vectors?

frosty orchid
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well if you say a point is 0, 0 then it's the same as storing a point because you are offeset from that point

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that's a bit confusing lets see

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you set some point in space as a center 0, 0 all other points can be offset (vectors) from that point

rare raven
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you start from 0.0 and make line out

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thats all i understand

frosty orchid
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that's basicaly it

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a vector only has how long it is and which way it is going

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this is the diagram for DH + EG btw

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the second one is how the vectors would be added

rare raven
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so what is point of position vectors?

frosty orchid
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as opposed to storing coordinates directly?

rare raven
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uh why start from 0.0

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instead of normal

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anywhere

frosty orchid
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oh right, you can my example was bad

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could be any point

rare raven
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oki

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thanks for help bro

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really much ty

frosty orchid
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no problem

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did you get the last problem?

rare raven
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Yep

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🙂

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ty

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drifting wraith
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you just gradually add the numbers

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for each vertex, the number of ways to reach it from the left side

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because we only have enough steps to always go forward

surreal flicker
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thx i understaned

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keen coral
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Need help with this

timid silo
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keen coral
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BDFE

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Is the problem

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Earlier I assumed the it’s a square

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And this simple trig ratio to solve it

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But the question gives no evidence that BDFE is a square

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It cloud be a kite

timid silo
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ok

keen coral
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If it’s a square it’s simple, DE is 6800 and then just use tan30 * 6800 to find CE

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But

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It’s a kite

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@timid silo

timid silo
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busyy

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not sure how to prove bi and ii

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here's my circle so far, i am ok with ai-iv

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umbral robin
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How do I find the point of intersection between two polynomial curves of different degrees?

umbral robin
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These two for example

sharp moss
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set the two equations equal to each other, then form a single polynomial equation

inland ravine
sharp moss
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simplify and find the roots

inland ravine
inland ravine
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how ?

umbral robin
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But there’s only one point of intersection when graphing

inland ravine
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you do derivative of both

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and set them equal to each other

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lemme solve on paper rq wait @umbral robin

umbral robin
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ok

sharp moss
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nvm ignore me

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i was wrong

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💀

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my bad

umbral robin
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np 😂

inland ravine
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wait what

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is the x co-ordinate .83

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or did i do a mistake

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@umbral robin

umbral robin
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Let me check

inland ravine
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nah i dont think its right

umbral robin
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no

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its -0.953.

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probably more decimals behind that

sharp moss
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yea it is

umbral robin
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there aren't supposed to be imaginary roots what

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nvm graphed it wrong

inland ravine
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i got the imaginary roots

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before i got the actual root

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my fucking calculator bruh

umbral robin
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alright so it is the x-value of the root, thx

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wonder if there's any other way to do it

inland ravine
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When I put put in my Calc I get the imaginary roots

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How do I got the normal one 💀

inland ravine
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umbral robin
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oh you using derivative

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why the derivatives tho

inland ravine
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the gradient will be the same for when they meet

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it makes it easier

umbral robin
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oh, but can't there also be 2 separate points that have the same gradient?

sharp moss
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idk its just a question in our lesson notes that I'm looking over

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probably allowed to use plysmlt tho

sharp moss
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ah ok

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i mean it doesn't look like there's any other way

umbral robin
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what is the rational root theorem?

inland ravine
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im lowk confused

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sharp moss
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any rational root of a polynomial equation with integer coefficients is of the form p/q , where p is a factor of the constant term and q is a factor of the leading coefficient

umbral robin
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oh isn't that the product of the roots?

sharp moss
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huh

umbral robin
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isn't the constant term of a polynomial divided by the coefficient of the highest x^n equal to the product of roots

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idk if that only works for quadratics or other stuff too

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so like:

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for a quadratic,

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if you have roots alpha and beta, their product are equal to c/a

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like so:

sharp moss
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i believe it's different for cubic equations etc

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vieta's formulas

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oh ok

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ok nvm what am i doing wrong

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this is my profs work

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oki found the bearing but its weird

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i dont understand the mistake

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you divide both sides by 1/2

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you get (x +4)^2 = 16

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oh

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to get rid of fractions you have to multiply both sides by the reciprocal

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would you change the pi's to 3.14 first?

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cos3.14x + cos6.28x + cos9.42x = 1?

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what would be the first step in working to complete this

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what have you tried

tidal tangle
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I think I got it

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just the solution?

tidal tangle
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And the work

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Like steps to get there

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if possible can I get it in a simplfied fraction not decimal

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thats how I did it

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show us your work first

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ok

crude lynx
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,rotate

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tidal tangle
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the work too?

crude lynx
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Yes

tidal tangle
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is it sufficent for like a test

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Hmm it's sufficient

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Just write it neatly

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And orderly

tidal tangle
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K thanks

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Line by line

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Just make sure to properly write it with ='s etc

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Or use '='

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monarch beat me to it

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The y intercept is supposed to be 6

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Although I got 8

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What did I do wrong

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okay so you got $-\frac{1}{2}x^2 + 2x + 6$ correct?

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you want to find the y-intersect, so you take x = 0, agreed? When the x is zero, the will intersect with the y-axis.

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so you get $-\frac{1}{2}x^2 + 2x + 6 = 0$

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robust tundra
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then first thing I'd do is get rid of the minus a half like so: $x^2 - 4x - 12 = 0$

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twilit dove
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ah I see nowwww

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thx

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oh wait, I mixed them up myself. But just fill in x = 0: $-\frac{1}{2} \cdot 0^2 + 2 \cdot 0 + 6 = 6$

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all good i knew what you meant

robust tundra
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and the for the x-axis intersect, solve the thing I showed above

twilit dove
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x axis intersect?

robust tundra
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yeah where the function intersects with the x-axis

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i think the paper you showed asked for it

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but looks like you already found them

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you'd solve $-\frac{1}{2}x^2 + 2x + 6 = 0$, rewrite to $x^2 - 4x - 12 = 0$ and then unbind it into factors: (x - 6)(x + 2)

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robust tundra
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so your x=6 and x=-2 is correct

twilit dove
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yes

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I used the quadraction equation for that

robust tundra
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that works as well, takes more time

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do you know how to unbind into factors?

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when looking at this quadratic form: $x^2 - 4x - 12 = 0$ the goal is to find two values that when you multiply them with eachother, result in -12 and when added into eachother result in -4

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in our case:
-6 * 2 = -12
-6 + 2 = -4
so our factors are -6 and 2 which you write like (x - 6)(x + 2) or (x + 2)(x - 6) and then you instantly see, x = 6 V x = -2 as solutions

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yo anyone know how to do this

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amber thicket
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itspretty short

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$3\sin{x}=2\cos{x}$

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veryhuman

timid silo
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1

timid silo
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So

amber thicket
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ok like write down how many solutions for 3sinx= 2cos x right

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how do i know

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and then like what does it mean to solve

timid silo
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Or just

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Any solution

amber thicket
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any solution i think

timid silo
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???

amber thicket
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uhhh sorry

timid silo
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Ok

amber thicket
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0<x<360

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i just understood what interval meant

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sorry

timid silo
amber thicket
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yes

timid silo
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Ok

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What properties can help us

amber thicket
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im assuming these might help

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i have written down 3sinx=2sin(90-x)

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but idk what to do

timid silo
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Uhh

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One sec

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So

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No

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Wrong direction

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Got any other ideas?

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Are you there?

amber thicket
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yes

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im looking thru my notes

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for any other

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hm

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i have this

crude lynx
amber thicket
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oh

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alright

crude lynx
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And since tan X is positive for two quadrants

amber thicket
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that makes 2 solutions?

crude lynx
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Yes

amber thicket
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ok so

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solving

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it says something abu havinga tleast 1 decimal point

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ow

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how?

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i got it

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hi, need help with 9

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versed pier
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Can we break this up into cases?

drifting wraith
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there's no reason

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it only means you also have a card that says 9

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i mean 6

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you're right

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Lol

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i’m getting the feeling it’s something like

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case where you disclude 9 + include 9 x2 for 6

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or smth

drifting wraith
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yeah 3 cases

wraith barn
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but when I try, it’s off

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You use 9

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You use 6

drifting wraith
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you use neither

versed pier
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Or you don’t use either

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yep

versed pier
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Yeee

wraith barn
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i did 4x3x2

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for neither

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and then 4x3 for 9

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and x2 of 9 for 6

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you need to multiply by n

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4×3 counts numbers that start with 9

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n times would inclide numbers that end with 9, or have nine in the middle

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ahhhh

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hi i’m having trouble with 14b

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i can see from each point, there are 2 congruent triangles, so I thought that it would be 8x2-1

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<@&286206848099549185>

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<@&286206848099549185> the first q is fine can I have help with this instead

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4^6 - 4 - 4 * 3 * 6 = 4020

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So I'm trying to prove this inequality seen at the top in the photo by induction for positive integers greater or equal to two. I've done some attempts as you might see but im just not getting any where. "HL" and "VL" is swedish for the right and left side respectively.

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Ye

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I should probably clarify one thing here, I realised that not everything fit in the picture, this is only the inductive step

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So in the original problem k+2 is actually k+1 and k+1 is k

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Hi whats equation for this

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remember how you used to write the equation of a line as Y = mX + b?

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do the same here except instead of Y use $\log_8y$ and instead of X use $\log_4x$

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Ok thanks

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hi

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Is there any way to solve for exponential equations? similar to quadratics

marsh geyser
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Using logarithms

timid silo
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No

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Something like

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lemme type

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8^{x}-2^{\left(x-5\right)}+4^{\left(x-1\right)}-4^{\left(x+2\right)}-2^{\left(x-5\right)}

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yes

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expand it

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also

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...

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look that you can transform

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in

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common base

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2^3 = 8

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2^2 = 4

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Yes

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then what

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cuz i kinda figured a way to solve them

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then after common base you can just not write the base anymore

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Then my math teacher said it was rubbish

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then solve like a normal equation

timid silo
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like this>

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yes

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Alright

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What if there's no common base

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depends

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i need example

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ok

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= to what

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in this case expand

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so write

marsh geyser
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Do you know that is not an equation right

timid silo
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=0

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3^(x-1) = 3^x - 3^1

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huh

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use the expansion i just wrote

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for each of the parantheses

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no

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what

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ok then use logs

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but

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u cant

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3^(x-1) = 3(x) /3

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if it equal to 0

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no

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3^(x-1) = 3^x * 3^-1

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yeah

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Which is the same

timid silo
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fair

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u are right

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xd

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ye

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sorry i drank too much coffee

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timid silo
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Same

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i'll find a way

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Thanks

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Hi guys, learning set theories. In Demorgan's law, how does the intersection change into union? What have I done wrong in my proof attempt?

rough temple
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There's a mistake in your derivation from first line to second line

timid silo
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the \notin does not distribute to B union C?

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Like this is what I found online. From venn diagram, I understand its basically the opposite of the union, but in terms of my above equations/proof, doesnt seem to make sense

polar fossil
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if I am not in (chickens U potatoes) then i am neither a chicken nor a potato. this means that I am not a chicken, and i am not a potato.

timid silo
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I get this explanation

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but how would you write it out in terms of set language

polar fossil
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$x \notin (B \cup C) \longleftrightarrow x \notin B \text{ and } x \notin C$

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hayley

timid silo
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wait doesnt Union refer to Or, Intersection refer to And?

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$x \notin (B \cup C) \longleftrightarrow x \notin B \text{ or } x \notin C$

warm shaleBOT
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Infinite Moms

timid silo
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Shouldnt it be like this?

polar fossil
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no? read my explanation and see that it matches what i wrote

polar fossil
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they do in some sense map to or/and, but that can be deceptive

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let us try an example

timid silo
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Is Demorgans law so special that it ignores the definition?

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Im reading Munkres Topology

polar fossil
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let us look at an example

timid silo
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Sure

polar fossil
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suppose B is the set of all even numbers, and C is the set of all odd numbers

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now what is B u C?

timid silo
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All even and odd numbers

polar fossil
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right, all integers

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now, what would it mean for $x \notin (B \cup C)$?

warm shaleBOT
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hayley

polar fossil
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in words

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or an example of such an x

timid silo
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Everything that is not all even and odd numbers

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I cant think of an actual number sorry

polar fossil
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uhhhh there are many numbers that aren't even or odd

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like 1/2

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or π

timid silo
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Ok irrational numbers?

polar fossil
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we just need one example tbh

timid silo
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Ok then let it be π

polar fossil
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okay, so we've established that $\pi \notin (B \cup C)$

warm shaleBOT
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hayley

polar fossil
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and as you can probably see, $\pi \notin B$ and also $\pi \notin C$

warm shaleBOT
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hayley

polar fossil
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everything seems to be working so far

timid silo
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Yes, makes sense

polar fossil
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what about the number 3 though

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is $3 \in (B \cup C)$?

warm shaleBOT
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hayley

timid silo
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Yes

polar fossil
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okay. what about $3 \in B$ and $3 \in C$? which of those are true?

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hayley

timid silo
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only $3 \in C$

warm shaleBOT
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Infinite Moms

polar fossil
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yeah, so we have that $3 \notin B$ and $3 \in C$ (which means that "$3 \notin C$" is false)

warm shaleBOT
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hayley

polar fossil
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so let's look at your thing

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you said: $x \notin (B \cup C) \longleftrightarrow x \notin B \text{ or } x \notin C$

warm shaleBOT
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hayley

polar fossil
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if we look at this for 3, we see that $\green{3 \notin B} \text{ or } \red{3 \notin C}$

warm shaleBOT
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hayley

timid silo
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Yea

polar fossil
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green statement is true, and so the "or" is considered true

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which means that $3 \notin (B \cup C)$ is true

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hayley

timid silo
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Yes

polar fossil
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but.... 3 is in B u C

timid silo
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Idk if it affects much...

polar fossil
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it's a bidirectional arrow

timid silo
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Same as this right?

polar fossil
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yes

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now as for your question about demorgan's law

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it essentially "flips" or/and:

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it states that $\neg (p \wedge q) \Longleftrightarrow (\neg p) \vee (\neg q)$

warm shaleBOT
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hayley

polar fossil
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"not (p and q), is the same thing as, (not p) or (not q)"

and the same is true the other way around:

"not (p or q), is the same thing as, (not p) and (not q)"

timid silo
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So, basically not (p and q) has the meaning of 1. not p, 2. not q, 3. not p AND q

polar fossil
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no it does not

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it means not (p and q)

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p might be true

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q might be true

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but they're not both true

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an example:
p = "i eat a hamburger for lunch"
q = "i eat a salad for lunch"

if i say "not (p and q)" it means that i only had one thing (or nothing!) for lunch

warm matrix
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ooooh set theorybleakkekw

timid silo
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Sorry I need some time, because what I have read and what you are saying has a teeny bit of contradiction😭

polar fossil
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no, there's only one meaning: i didn't eat this for lunch

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i might have had this, though:

timid silo
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Can it be interpreted this way:
p = "i eat a hamburger for lunch"
q = "i eat a salad for lunch"
z = "non-mentioned food for lunch"

If i say "not (p and q)",
it means I either
CASE 1: Ate p;
CASE 2: Ate q;
CASE 3: Ate z (Which is not P nor Q)

polar fossil
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sure, or i ate nothing at all

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the point is that either i threw the burger in the cook's face, or i dumped the salad on the ground, or i might have done both

timid silo
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This is not a good example but I get what you mean

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So Demorgans basically said lets just flip and/or

polar fossil
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how about you make up your own? it's lunch time and i am hungry as you can see

timid silo
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because you could've thrown the burger in his face, or you could've eaten part of the salad and dump it on the ground

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I tend to question these scenarios sorry

polar fossil
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you should also make one for the other way around, the "not (p or q), is the same thing as, (not p) and (not q)"

timid silo
polar fossil
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the third one is "not P and not Q"

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or to be super clear, "(not P) and (not Q)"

timid silo
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my mistake, "P and Q" instead of "Not P and Not Q"

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Alright back to my question,
Demorgans law basically
changes "And" to "Or"
changes "Or" to "And"

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Is that it?

polar fossil
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yes, essentially. it converts "not-and" to "or-not"

timid silo
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Alright I understand now

polar fossil
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and converts "not-or" to "and-not"

timid silo
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Im going to go see why he did that now

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You can eat burger king or MOS burger instead of McDonalds

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better burgers

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Thanks and have a nice lunchcatthumbsup

polar fossil
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i don't think i want to eat a moss burger, but thank you for your suggestion

timid silo
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? Mos burger is a restaurant

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I live in Asia so you might not have it (?)

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@rough temple did you have anything extra that might help me understand? I saw you typing since 45mins agobleakkekw

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how do you do this?

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wide oracle
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question 14

dark stirrup
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Start by expanding the parenthesis

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And keep in mind what vectors being perpendicular tells you about their dot product

wide oracle
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@sage geode @dark stirrup like this?

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That's not all of the terms in the expansion, but, yeah, it simplifies to |u|^2 + |v|^2 + |w|^2

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Not sure why you set that equal to |u| |v| |w|cos(theta) though

wide oracle
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oh

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oh

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its the same term

sage geode
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What do you mean?

wide oracle
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In this case yeah, |u|^2 + |v|^2 + |w|^2 = |u + v + w|^2

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But with the information given you can simplify |u|^2 + |v|^2 + |w|^2 first

sage geode
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Read the problem again, what is stated about u, v, w besides them being mutually perpendicular?

sage geode
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The values of their magnitudes, yeah, namely |u|, |v|, |w|

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You should know how to calculate |u|^2 + |v|^2 + |w|^2 now

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Again, you are given the values of |u|, |v|, |w|, so you can simply plug them in

sage geode
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1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2 is not 13 though

wide oracle
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sage geode
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Just a quick 1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2 = 14 and yeah, you are done

wide oracle
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tho

sage geode
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Well, it's wrong then

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Also a dot product of a vector with itself can't be negative, so that is clearly a mistake in the book

wide oracle
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oh wait

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mb

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wrong 14

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your right

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Hello, does anyone know anything about these 5 topics? I have to write a research project in one of them and so if anyone knows anything about any of these hopefully it will help inform my choice.

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I've been struggling to set this problem up. I would really appreciate if someone could help me with that part

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You can use washer method

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I tried setting it up with that

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I didn't get the expected answer

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I don't have the work with me right now but I'll redo it and send it in a few mins

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I used this to set it up

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well revolving around the line x = b is more like revolving around the y axis

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usually cylindrical method is easier in those cases

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Sorry, I went somewhere

mild blade
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And you are putting wrong limits

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As, y is not going from 0 to b, its limit would be -a to a

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Subtract this area from orange area to get the light red area in the last image

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You only included thia area

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Which would give you the volume of this area revolving around x=b

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i see, thank you.

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Just need help, should be relatively quick. I need to know whether or not (0,0) is an inflection point here or not. I already have (-1,0), (-0.447,0), (0.447,0), and (1,0) has my inflection points listed here.

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This function is also a derivative of this

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i cant see the numebrs well so i cant give excact numbers

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those will be the infection points

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Is this the correct sufficient statistic?

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i feel bad for you man hope you find somebody who knows how to answer

nocturne hawk
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I think it is a sufficient function, thanks to Fisher-Neyman factorization theorem

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ooops

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sorry misclick

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do you know what you're doing...?

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unless you set things up so that they are hidden

glossy yacht
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then why did you need to ask where my calculation was?

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bro, its absolutely fine to admit you're out of your depth, but do not pretend you know how to do something in the hope of teaching others

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Looks like you're first trying to find an mle of alpha. The test statistic T here doesn't make that much sense to me unless you give me a null hypothesis that it can "test"

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Are you sure you're not searching for an estimator of alpha here?

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I'm on the second part

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there is no hypothesis to test

meager swift
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Then T isn't needed

glossy yacht
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What's the sufficient statistic?

meager swift
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You've found the likelihood function tho that's good

glossy yacht
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This is the only part I need