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kind hawk
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horrible choice of name for the variable btw

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if you wanna disprove something, give a counterexample

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drifting sluice
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I do not understand this

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drifting sluice
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at x = a wouldnt x-a be 0?

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And why x^k instead of (x - a)^k in Maclaurin series

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tacit scarab
drifting sluice
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I dont get why summation doesn't become just

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$\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{f^{(k)}(0)}{k!}$

warm shaleBOT
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Ñøïr

tacit scarab
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These series basically approximates the function with polynomials

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if you differentiate the series, you'll see that they have same n-th derivative as f(x)

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And it happens to ensures the series converges to f(x)

drifting sluice
tacit scarab
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the Taylor series is a polynomial

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fiery aurora
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hey could anyone help how the multiplication in the denominator works? i didnt understand the final answer which came out to be kp/(r^2 + a^2)^3/2

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eternal thistle
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$\sqrt{x} = x^{\frac{1}{2}}$

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eternal thistle
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$a^{b}\cdot a^{c} = a^{b+c}$

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fiery aurora
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so is it like it becomes a/r+a, then when it multiples with the r^2+a^2 it becomes r^3+a^3?

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which is the same as writing (r^2 + a^2)^3/2

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cuz the 2's can be cancelled and it would still be raise to 3?

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i think i got it

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mellow skiff
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For this one we replace x with 2,-2 and 2/3 ?

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How to do it with 2/3?

ember frost
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sub with 2/3 instead

mellow skiff
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0.666?

ember frost
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use 2/3

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not its rounded version

mellow skiff
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But how could i use it in question c

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Its already at a/b

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shell oar
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how would i use this to solve the op

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woven creek
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hello

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woven creek
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what is this equation from

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paper sparrow
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Hey, I need to examine if this converges or diverges. I already solved it but I think I did a mistake

paper sparrow
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I found that this converges by comparing it with another series

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but I think I also have to calculate the sum, which i dont think i can

swift stream
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The easiest way to see if it converges or diverges is noticing $2^{2n}3^{1-n} = 3 \cdot (\frac{4}{3})^{n}$

warm shaleBOT
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smidgin

paper sparrow
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ohh

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i didn't think of aplying the power 2 to the 2

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so this diverges, bc |r| > 1

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thanks

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ionic flame
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i have a question

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ionic flame
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They are second degree equations, I don't know if they are correct.

forest sinew
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i think we can certainly help you but you may also consider using a bot

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at least to confirm answers-

ionic flame
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how

forest sinew
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,w Solve[ x^2-2x-15==0 ]

forest sinew
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looks like youre off by a half

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ah, you maintain the fraction in the last step

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youve written for example $$\frac{10}{2} = \frac 52$$

warm shaleBOT
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ionic flame
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I don't put two then

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the number

forest sinew
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you just simplified incorrectly in the last step

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can you see why this is wrong? why 10/2 isnt 5/2?

ionic flame
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oh

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noe

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now

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oak nova
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Hello

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oak nova
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how did my prof go from the first step to the next

undone yoke
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Split the second integral

gilded needle
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you could use partial fractions to split 1/(u^2 - 1) into two terms

undone yoke
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$\frac{1}{u^2-1} = \frac{1}{u-1} - \frac{1}{u+1}$

warm shaleBOT
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Solomaniac

oak nova
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why do you subtract them?

undone yoke
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Think.

oak nova
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isnt it a difference of squares

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so theyre multiplied

undone yoke
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You'll see it immediately

tardy epoch
timid silo
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you forgot to multiply 1/2

gilded needle
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and you can always confirm it's correct by carrying out the subtraction and seeing that you get back 1/(u^2-1)

oak nova
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im so lost ill be honest

undone yoke
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undone yoke
timid silo
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its still wrong tho

oak nova
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whats an rhs

undone yoke
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Right Hand Side of an equation

oak nova
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do u mean smthn like this?

undone yoke
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Split u²-1 = (u-1)(u+1)

oak nova
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yea so how come in the other question its a subtraction not an addition?

undone yoke
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Split it in terms of addition. You will automatically get -1 as the coeff.

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Also, @oak nova splitting (u²-1)=(u-1)(u+1) is one of the basic mathematical intuitions. Get used to it. Completely.

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You'll also encounter this intuition of splitting the terms in Seuqence and Series.

oak nova
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so would b turn out to become a negative number?

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after solving?

tardy epoch
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just add them and you'll see

oak nova
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ok 1 sec

graceful marten
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here its
(u^2 -1) aka (u^2 - 1^2)

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so you always split it bc its easier to do when you see something like this

oak nova
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like this?

tardy epoch
undone yoke
oak nova
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at this point do i sub u back in?

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u is tanx btw

tardy epoch
oak nova
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it is

tardy epoch
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Use int 1/(1+u) du = log(1+u)+C

oak nova
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whaaat

tardy epoch
oak nova
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yes

tardy epoch
oak nova
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cant i just take the integeral of the fractions and get ln(u-1)

tardy epoch
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Yes

oak nova
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and ln(u+1)

tardy epoch
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So why are you setting u = tan(x)

oak nova
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because im doing substitution

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at the start of the problem i let u=tanx

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i just didnt show u thats why i said u = tanx btw

tardy epoch
oak nova
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lemme just show u the problem

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if u let u=tanx

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u get du=sex^2xdx

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and get to the point i was at wher eu helped

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ohh nvm i got it

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ln(x) - ln(x) = ln(x/x)

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its a rule i forgor about

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okay ty

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fleet stag
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how come its positve 2/5 and not negative

worn yoke
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you subtract the lower bound, so the negatives cancel out

fleet stag
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omggggg

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lol how did i miss that

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earnest lion
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I've been off school for ages really ill and completely missed all of this and sohcahtoa so could anyone help me with this and preferably find the answer? 😭😭

queen briar
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do you know trigonometric functions?

earnest lion
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nope😭 sorry

queen briar
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sin, cos?

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does that ring a bell?

earnest lion
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I've heard of it but never used it

queen briar
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do you know the formula for sin(x)

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even the slightest idea maybe

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earnest lion
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it's okay I did it!

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frozen willow
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I was told if

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frozen willow
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How does the left imply the right?

forest sinew
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this looks so suspiciously like markovs but i cant track it thonk

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I guess you need more information about the rv

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but to me isnt the left never true?

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@frozen willow

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so then it may as well imply that dogs never fly on tuesday

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jan Niku

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jan Niku

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forest sinew
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i mean F -> X is true for any X

forest sinew
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but if $F$ then $X$ has truth value $\neg F \lor X \equiv T \lor X \equiv T$

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jan Niku

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forest sinew
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markovs?

frozen willow
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It would be nice to use Markov's to proof itself tho

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sksksk

forest sinew
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hmm

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im not sure youve phrased this in a way its equivalent to markovs thonk

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wikipedia has a nifty integral proof

frozen willow
forest sinew
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well the statement you posted is questionable

frozen willow
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What part of it?

forest sinew
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i mean does it not end with E > E?

frozen willow
forest sinew
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i mean then you have a problem

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because E > E is false

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so if youre doing a contradiction

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you want to show the left side is true

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right thonk

frozen willow
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No sadly

forest sinew
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bearlain sorry bad brain day

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its not really clear where this statement comes from

frozen willow
forest sinew
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its definitely not equivalent to markovs

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and idk why not just use the integral proof

frozen willow
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For verbosity maybe

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Here's the whole proof

forest sinew
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what is the original statement?

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should be hopefully right above this?

frozen willow
forest sinew
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OH

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multiply both sides by cE happy

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i get it

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that 1/c c E should be more suggestive blobsweat

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\begin{align*}
P[X\geq c E] &> \frac 1c \
cEP[X\geq c E] &> cE \qty(\frac 1c) > E
\end{align*}

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jan Niku

frozen willow
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frozen willow
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Your trailing "> E" is the key to my question 🙏

forest sinew
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@frozen willow okay, now apply the hypothesis

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we assumed the first line, yea?

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so apply it to the second

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youll get $$cE\frac1c > cE P[X\geq cE] > cE \frac 1c$$

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Hello !! A question about permutation. Five applicants for a job are to be interviewed on the same day.
a) In how many ways can the secretary schedule the sequence of interviews?
b) If two of the applicants are friends who requested to be interviewed one after the other, in how many ways can the order of the interviews be done?
c) If one of the applicants has a prior appointment and requested to be the last one to be interviewed, in how many ways can the sequence of interviews be done?

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summer moth
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Yooo, I gotchu dawg

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So, like we went over earlier today, a permutation is when order matters.

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So, for part a, you would find the permutation, non-repeating, of 5 options

graceful pendant
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Yooo, it's youuu

summer moth
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So, how do you do a permutation non repeating?

graceful pendant
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10 x 9 x 8 x 7...

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Right?

summer moth
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Precisely

knotty bronze
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5,040?

summer moth
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So, if you have 5 sets, and you need to use all five of them, this can be represented by a factorial: "!"

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So, this would be 5! Or 5 factorial

knotty bronze
graceful pendant
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It's alright dw

graceful pendant
summer moth
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Yes

graceful pendant
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So just 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1?

summer moth
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Yup

knotty bronze
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So the final answ is 120?

summer moth
knotty bronze
summer moth
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Part a is 120

knotty bronze
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Okk thank u!!

summer moth
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So, b and c are very similar

knotty bronze
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Do we use the same formula for b and c? Or?

summer moth
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So for part b, we know that 2 are going one after the other, so we can essentially count them as one

summer moth
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I would assume no, because why ask the same question twice

knotty bronze
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Good point

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Then what would be the formula for b?

summer moth
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So the order could be abcd or bacd if a and b are friends

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That's how I'm interpreting it

graceful pendant
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Can it also be like, badc?

summer moth
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Yes, yes it could

graceful pendant
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Ohhh I see I see

summer moth
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As long as a and b are next to eachother

graceful pendant
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Okiee

summer moth
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So what do you think the formula would be?

graceful pendant
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n! / (n-r)!

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I'm sure

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I'm not sure I mean TT

summer moth
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If we count a and b as one unit, but 2 different options of the sub-unit

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Don't look at it as 1 permutation, look it as 2

graceful pendant
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Sooo, is it like 5! / (5 - 1)!

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Oh

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I think you have to reopen it

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graceful pendant
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There we go

summer moth
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So, what do you think the first permutation is?

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I took a screenshot of that guy, gonna send it to a mod

brisk matrix
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they took care of it

graceful pendant
graceful pendant
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Not sure again TT

summer moth
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Close

graceful pendant
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I don't really get what you mean ;-;

summer moth
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Very close

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If we view a and b as one unit, and there are 5 options, then it would be 4!

graceful pendant
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Ohhh yeah

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I see now

summer moth
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So originally cdabe was a possibility. But we are going to view a and b together as x, so now it's cdxe

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Does that make sense?

graceful pendant
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Okiee

summer moth
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So we have the 4! As the first permutation, what do you think the 2nd one is?

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The 2nd one is for a and b, to be clear

graceful pendant
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Sooo

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3!

summer moth
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Just a and b

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2 slots, 2 possibilities, non repeating

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So, before we had 4 slots and 4 possibilities after we combined a and b, and that was 4!, right?

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So what would the permutation for a and b be?

graceful pendant
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2!

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That?

summer moth
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Yessss

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I knew you would get it

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So, now that you have 4! And 2!, what do you think you would do with them?

graceful pendant
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Multiply?

summer moth
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Yes.

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(4x3x2x1)x(2x1)

graceful pendant
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Hey, thanks for your help bro but I have to go TT

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See you !!

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Really sorry TT

summer moth
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Dm me if you need more help

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burnt thunder
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burnt thunder
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is it x^1/2?

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,rotate 270

warm shaleBOT
burnt thunder
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textbook has -

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1/2

pastel wren
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hi again! whats the question?

burnt thunder
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lol dont get bored of me

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okay so

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square root c

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x

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its x^1/2

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right?

pastel wren
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yeah

burnt thunder
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okay so why did they

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its -1/2

pastel wren
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you did the fraction wrong

burnt thunder
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at the end

pastel wren
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i see it already

burnt thunder
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oops

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where…

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which fraction

pastel wren
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you wrote just sqrt(x) not sqrt(x)/x

burnt thunder
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oh god

pastel wren
burnt thunder
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where did fracrion go

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help

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why did they get rid of ot

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it

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how

pastel wren
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they didnt lol

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you did

burnt thunder
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they did too

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line 3

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x^-1/2

pastel wren
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thats how they got -1/2

burnt thunder
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yea i just figured 💀

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omg

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i acc need to use my brain

pastel wren
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XD

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hope i helped

burnt thunder
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tyem

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ur so smartthanks

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tidal vale
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Using the negation of the conclusion, is my solution correct?

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I'm wondering if my steps makes sense and ive correctly understood how to do this (Im sorry I have no idea how its called in english, I would assume its "formal group") using the negation of the conclusion (here the conclusion is =>v C /\ D)

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where you have to end with two things who goes against each other, here my (3) and (5) since one is true and the other is false which is a contradiction

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The first image is the rules Im allowed to use

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Sorry I looked around a bit and I believe its called "proof by contradiction"

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Nevermind I found it doesnt work because I tried doing distributivity, but the rule I was actually trying to apply was morgan and that also changes the sign which breaks what ive done

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so in our case (2) (1/2) ((x+20)/2)(2x), we have two of these triangles so multiply by 2. x^2 + 20x would then be the area for the triangle

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Would I keep it in brackets the (x+20)

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It says algebraic expression so do I just keep it like that

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I’d say x^2 + 20x

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hey could someone explain why e^(x/2) integrated is 2e^(x/2)?

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yes but that doesn't apply to integration right? you have to use u sub?

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is that the only way to do it?

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or u can sub u = e^(x/2)

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its probability rules and I'm struggling on the 2nd and 3rd question

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for the 2nd question I divided 10 by 52

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for the third question I divided 17 by 52

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where did you get 10 and 17 from?

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wait shit

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there is not only 10 hearts

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for the 2nd question

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nor is there only 17 lower than 9

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yeah I had to include the queen of hearts too...

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you have to include all of the face cards

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yes

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how many hearts are there

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for the 2nd, you have to include all the heart face cards because those still count as hearts

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yeah for the heart cards

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it would be 12 in total right?

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since including the queen and king of hearts

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oh wait

cedar frost
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there is also the prince

wispy acorn
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the joker card as well

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or whatever its called

worn yoke
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it does say in the question how many are in each suit

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or J

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in english it's called the jack

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jack yes

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if you include the jack how many hearts do you have?

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so for the 2nd question, it'd be 13/52

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yes

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and for the 3rd question

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I would include all cards ranging from 1 to 8 and the jack, queen, and king card as well right?

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not to mention the ace card

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face cards are usually counted as higher than any of the number cards

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ah ok

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never played cards in my life so lol

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so it'd be 33/52

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33?

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no

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ok wait

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go to the image

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and circle all the cards that would be counted as lower than 9

wispy acorn
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well I counted up the ace, hearts, club, and spades cards that are 8 that resulted in 32, and added 1 to count the ace card

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?

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aces are the 1 cards on the left, for reference. they're a bit different from the other number cards, because they can be either 1 or higher than kings depending on context

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and how many cards are there in that circle

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there you go

wispy acorn
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so I overthinked with the ace part

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i think you got 33 becuase you were confused with the ace or something

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but just pretend the ace is 1 like the question stated

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these are the aces

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then ur good

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#1

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do you notice anything about the function e^-|x|

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I thought I could just guess the antiderivative with -e^-|x|, but based on the crazy answer wolfram is giving me I'm guessing that's not possible

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it converges?

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oh

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it's a bell curve

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not quite, it has a "point" at x=0

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what about symmetries

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symmetry across y axis

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yes

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aka even function

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does that simplify the integral at all?

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inegral can be changed from 0 to infinity 2*e^-|x|?

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yes

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and when x is in the interval [0,infinity), can you simplify |x|?

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to just x?

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right

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There are 5 boys to every 6 girls in a class of 44 pupils. Find the number of boys in the class.

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,tex .double angle

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riemann

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second one with theta = theta and phi = 2 theta

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okay?

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what's your question specifically?

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Yes thats what i did

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2cos^2x -1 (cosx)
2cos^3x - cosx - (2sinxcosx)(sinx)

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,, 2 \sin^2 (x) \cos (x)

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1-c^2

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I did that

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now do the algebra

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maybe i did something silly mistake

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2cos^3x - cosx - (2sinxcosx)(sinx)

2cos^3x - cosx - (2cosx)(1-cos^2x)
2cos^3x - cosx - (2cosx - 2cos^3x)

4cos^3x - 3cosx

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I started this new chapter just now

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Why are the numbers 3 and 4 swapped around?

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match them

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hows rhe slope 16

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how do i find the x0 on derivative?

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how does AUB represent thst

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That’s the definition of the union operation

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Because it needs to include the intersection

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so

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{20-x, x, 8-x}

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so

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{20-x, x, 8-x} =23?

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Well, all of them added up = 23

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bin ingame

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How do I simplify this further to find out what x is equal to?

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I'm not sure how I could get 3tan^2x-1=0 to the point where I find out what just the x value is

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What in the mathematics is this

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I think u went wrong somewhere

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Probably

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how did u get sin square x = 1

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u dont just equate the upper part seperately and stuff

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u can solve it atm of this step

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Because tan^2x=1/3 and tan=sin/cos

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no no no

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u dont use that

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It dosent work like that

bitter spruce
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It doesn't?

fierce elbow
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do u know the values of tan from 0 - 90 degrees

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My gut feeling says snowflake is right

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thats the most imp thing here

errant lotus
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No wonder i have gut issues

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Yeah, if it's on the unit circle I have it memorized

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2sqrt3/2

fierce elbow
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thats cos 30

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root3/2

bitter spruce
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Wouldn't it be (1/2)×(rt3/2)?

fierce elbow
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tan 30 = 1/root3

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and u got it here already

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so basically x is 30 degrees

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u get what im saying?

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Oooh right, I got messed up on fractions in my head

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when u square root on both sides u get tanx = 1/root3

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but tan 30 = 1/root3

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thus x = 30 or pi/6

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OOOH

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I get it now

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Noice

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That makes so much more sense

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Thanks! :)

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Quick question

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What is greater log 5 to the base 3 or log 5 to the base 4

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also how to identify which one is greater

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write it in exponent form

versed stratus
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what do you think?

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Think about what the log function does/ means

queen briar
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if the base is greater than 1, the greater log is the one with the greater argument

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therefore

obtuse pebbleBOT
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As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.

queen briar
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bro

versed stratus
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oops, sorry

queen briar
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how else am i supposed to answer

versed stratus
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give a hint

fierce elbow
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its a representation of a exponential term

iron edge
fierce elbow
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yeah

iron edge
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yeah

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So it’s enough

fierce elbow
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I wrote that but idk how is it enough

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I just dont know what is between those 2 steps

iron edge
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Which steps?

fierce elbow
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where u seperate them

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and then the final answer

iron edge
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Formula

fierce elbow
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oh

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WAIT OH

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YEAH

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Got it

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.close

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iron edge
iron edge
fierce elbow
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ye ye got it

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fierce elbow
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how to solve this-

obtuse pebbleBOT
fierce elbow
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I had this question in my test

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Idk have the slightest idea on how to solve it

iron edge
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100! ?

fierce elbow
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Yeahh...

viscid needle
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The exponent of 12, would be the power of 4 and 3

night fox
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legendre formula

viscid needle
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Since 4 > 3, then it would be determined by the power of 4

fierce elbow
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wait wait

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If 4 is greater

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why will it be determined by 4??

viscid needle
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4 is greater means that the power of 4 in 100! Is less than the power of 3

night fox
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we need the maximum amount of 4s to get 12

viscid needle
fierce elbow
viscid needle
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Okay

fierce elbow
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ok ok

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got it

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makes sense

night fox
fierce elbow
viscid needle
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Okay great, so since the power of 3 is more, and power of 4 * 3 would be determined by the number which had lesser power, which is 4

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Thankfully, we have a formula, the above one, for finding it

fierce elbow
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I can barely understand that formula

viscid needle
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Okay, so do you know the floor function?

fierce elbow
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Man I think it was an out of syllabus question

night fox
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see what midnight says

fierce elbow
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Nop

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I dont know that floor thing

viscid needle
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$\floor{\frac{a}{b}}$

warm shaleBOT
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Midnight

fierce elbow
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No idea

viscid needle
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okay

fierce elbow
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I thought it was bracket when I was reading that webpage

viscid needle
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floor(a) is the smallest integer less than or equal to a

fierce elbow
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square bracket

viscid needle
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It’s not a regular square bracket, haha

viscid needle
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So, suppose you had to find the power of 4 in 10!

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Wait, let me generalise it

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Power of p in n! is:$
\floor{\frac{n}{p}} + \floor{\frac{n}{p^2}} + ……$

warm shaleBOT
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Midnight

fierce elbow
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in some smaller exmaple

viscid needle
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Suppose you had to find the power of 3 in 7!

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$\floor{\frac{7}{3}} + \floor{\frac{7}{9}} + \floor{\frac{7}{27}} +…..$

warm shaleBOT
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Midnight

fierce elbow
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yeah

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7! is

viscid needle
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Now, since 7 < 9, 7 < 27 and so on, all these would become 0

fierce elbow
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tends to 0

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sorta

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decreasing gp

viscid needle
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Thus, only floor(7/3) = 2 is the answer

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Yup

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As soon as p^k > n, you stop

fierce elbow
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ok so it works similar to a gp??

viscid needle
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Well, yes and no

fierce elbow
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like the rest ahead wont matter a lot

viscid needle
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It works like a gp, but you don’t need it

fierce elbow
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to the original one

viscid needle
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Exactly

fierce elbow
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yeah

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Hmm

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makes sense

viscid needle
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As soon as you hit p^k > n, the following wont matter

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Can you try finding the power of 4 in 100! now?

fierce elbow
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4

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in 100

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wasnt it 12

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wait yeah

viscid needle
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I guess you can do 12 too

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Yeah

fierce elbow
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so the sequence would go like

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100 / 4^i

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where i = 1 to inf

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is that right??

viscid needle
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Wait

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It’s only for primes

fierce elbow
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Oh

viscid needle
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So we can’t use it on 12 or 4

fierce elbow
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well 4 isnt

viscid needle
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We will have to find the powers of 2 and 3

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And try to use that

fierce elbow
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2 would be 50

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3 would be what

viscid needle
fierce elbow
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100/3??

viscid needle
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Let me give another example

fierce elbow
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oh wait p&k>n

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I didnt use it

viscid needle
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Yes

night fox
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yes

fierce elbow
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bro the sign

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wth

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so it would go till 64

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as 128 is greater than 100

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100/2 + 100 / 4 + 100/8 + 100/16 + 100/32 + 100/64

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do I need to calculate that stuff

viscid needle
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Yes

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But remember, take the floor

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Not the decimals, the smallest integer less than or equal to them

fierce elbow
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what was floor again?

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oh ok

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50 + 25 + 12 + 6 + 3 + 1?

viscid needle
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👌

fierce elbow
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97

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what should I do with this

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we did it for 2

night fox
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answer!!

viscid needle
fierce elbow
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3

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Hmm

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100/3 + 100/9 + 100/27 + 100/81

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so it would be 33 + 11 + 3 + 1

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48

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wait

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yeah

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3>2

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Is that it??

viscid needle
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So 100! = 2^97 * 3^48 * something

fierce elbow
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48 is also the answer to the question

viscid needle
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We need to form 12 out of this

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How would we do that?

fierce elbow
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didnt u mention before

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that 4>3 so we gotta find for 4

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while now we going for 3 and 2

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so we had to find it for the greater one

viscid needle
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Because 4 = 2^2

fierce elbow
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Im not sure if im making sense

viscid needle
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Try to make the largest 12 you can out of 2^97 * 3^48

fierce elbow
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u mean the largest power of 12

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obtained from that thing?

viscid needle
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Yup

fierce elbow
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how-

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2^97 seems impossible

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3^48 might work out

viscid needle
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Recall that 12 = 4 * 3 = 2^2 * 3

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2^97 = 2^2(48) * 2 = 4^48 * 2

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Can you figure out the rest…?

fierce elbow
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ok u seperated 96+1

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I was confused with that

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sheesh well thats great

fierce elbow
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is this thing for me level

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I never even heard the name

viscid needle
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Yes

fierce elbow
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how can such question come for me at 11th greade

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grade

viscid needle
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The most important thing here is that you learned something new

fierce elbow
viscid needle
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The neat thing about it is that it uses a trick, maybe your teachers didn’t do it using it

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Did u solve it?

fierce elbow
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We never had a sum

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like that bro

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wait I got a call

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@fierce elbow Has your question been resolved?

fierce elbow
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thanx

viscid needle
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.close

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Wow

fierce elbow
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oh mb

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fleet stag
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i dont understnad how they got the frist coloum of graphs

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subtle jetty
fleet stag
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then have the other one .3

subtle jetty
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how do we use this info to work out monday