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alpine raven
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this ?

timid silo
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well, my confusion is that i don't see this in what he wrote

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like 1*10 to the power of 3

alpine raven
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its the weight of each number

timid silo
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where did the 3 come from?

alpine raven
timid silo
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ohh right

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and in the first example he gave (1011 in binary), why is every number multiplied by two?

alpine raven
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because 2 is the base

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or at least, thats a representation of a number in binayr

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binary*

timid silo
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but what determines the base? or is that something that's bound to a set of rules, like a formula or such?

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so any conversion of binary must always include 2 as its base, and it's to the power of its weight

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is that correct?

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that makes a lot more sense. thank you

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one last thing

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i've been really meaning to start self studying math. i've had an interest in doing so for the past 4-5 months. what's a good starting point? (only resource i know of is khan academy)

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right

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so that's the only resource i'll need? how far will it take me before i have to start searching for books on my own?

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well, i graduated high school but never went to college

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i'd say i need a refresher on my math though

alpine raven
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just study what you need for

timid silo
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i'm not really doing it for a course or program. i just want to self study out of interest, so i don't exactly need math for anything specifically

alpine raven
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i think thats enough ?

timid silo
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novice programmer. math can help with computer science and some data structures and algorithms concepts

timid silo
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awesome, those'll be first on my list

alpine raven
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they go to calc 3 at least

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i dont know if they do linear algebra

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what do you know so far in maths

timid silo
timid silo
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no problem

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haha small world

alpine raven
timid silo
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if you're talking about extension classes, i didn't take those

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i remember taking advanced maths classes but that's about as far as i went with it

alpine raven
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like, which notion

timid silo
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i'm not sure what you mean. i remember learning certain topic such as logarithmic functions, exponential functions and some calculus

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but as i said, i've forgotten a lot of it

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i never used to have much of an interest in math when i was in school but that's changed years after

alpine raven
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you said exponential function and logarithm

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I guess you did complex number too

timid silo
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no, i think that was above my level

alpine raven
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ah

timid silo
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i wasn't the best at math though. that was my biggest thing

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i was always that guy who barely studied and just managed to pass his exams

alpine raven
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well im not asking if you are the best or not lmao
I just want the syllabus so I can at least tell you where to start

timid silo
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which is why i want to go back and fill in missing gaps in my knowledge

alpine raven
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so you only did calculus in 12th grade ?

timid silo
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it was never listed as methods or specialist in my school but looking at it online, i guess i did methods. here, i'll link it

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i did a lot of this stuff

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but i probably need to go back and redo a lot of it

alpine raven
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monoid, group, ring, field at least

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after that you can start linear algebra

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going through all linear algebra maybe

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well thats on you

timid silo
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thank you both, you've helped out a ton

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alpine raven
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ah dont forget arithmetic too

timid silo
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hoary idol
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Need help with 2 and 4

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spring trail
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from the top?

hoary idol
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Yes

spring trail
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!show

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hoary idol
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Buf not sure where to start but what to do

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Im supposed to use this I think

spring trail
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are you aware of the product formulas?

hoary idol
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this?

spring trail
hoary idol
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can i not do it with thees ones?

spring trail
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you can

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@hoary idol

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try following me okay?

hoary idol
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i need to do it with this

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ok

spring trail
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u are comfortable with the idea of variables?

hoary idol
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is it neccecery?

spring trail
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there is alpha and beta; i need you to understand that they are variables and represent something

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and we can make new variables to represent new things

hoary idol
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ok

spring trail
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ok lets define two variables c and d

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c= alpha + beta

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d = alpha - beta

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so what is c + d

hoary idol
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2alpha

spring trail
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so alpha is (c+d)/2

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similarly what is d

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(take ur time)

hoary idol
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c-d/2

spring trail
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yep

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do u have a notebook w u rn?

hoary idol
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yea

spring trail
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so write down those 2 formulae of sine

spring trail
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only the sine ones tho

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remember the way we added these two?

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add those two formulae together as well

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now u can replace the alpha + beta with c

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alpha - beta with d

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and also make use of the formulas we made for c and d

spring trail
hoary idol
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ok so what do i do?

spring trail
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ahhh

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show ur work again

hoary idol
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do i start doing the equation or what?

spring trail
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if u have been doing all that ive told till now

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send me a pic of it

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we are arriving at a new formula using the old ones

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to easily solve ur problem

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i actually gtg rn

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if u still need help

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hoary idol
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are they hard?

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timid silo
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Are you this impatient

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Q4 otw

hoary idol
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oh i thought you left

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timid silo
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here

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its correct

timid silo
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First one is just tedious

boreal jay
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Tan?

timid silo
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yeah i guess

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tangent

hoary idol
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tg

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tan yea

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thanks a lot birdwatcher

timid silo
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nah i did it in like 3 minutes

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just do more

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trig is super easy

hoary idol
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ok

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how long have you been doing it?

boreal jay
hoary idol
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i get it better that way i prefer it tbh

boreal jay
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Like their individual expansions

spring trail
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dang i forgot u can just plug in

boreal jay
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But I want to ask

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U know the formula for sin a + sin b?

spring trail
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they dont

boreal jay
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Ah

spring trail
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he

boreal jay
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In that case u do need the individual expansions

hoary idol
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i havent lerned that yet

spring trail
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tho if u wanna explore, have fun or just make ur maths life easier

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try seeing through what i told u

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and getting to that formula

hoary idol
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ok thanks ill think about it tonight

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brisk arrow
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I’m making a note, is it true

meager glade
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yes

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if you want something intuitive

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you can make a graph

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of sin(x)

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and sin(-x)

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In the context of a kernels (SVMs), a kernel is valid if it is:

  1. Symmetric
  2. Positive semidefinite

What is the point of the constants c in condition 2?

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sullen sparrow
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i am struggling with this exercise, because i dont know whether this is a subspace or not

sullen sparrow
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if i want to consider U and V belonging to the subspace, i dont know how to set them

royal basin
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(a-1, -2a+2) and (b-1, -2b+2) perhaps.

sullen sparrow
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like, its U = (a,a) and V = (b,b)?

royal basin
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no.

sullen sparrow
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uhm

royal basin
sullen sparrow
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okok

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alright i got this

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one more question tho

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in this exercise, how am i supposed to do this

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U = (x1,y1,z1) and V = (x2,y2,z2) ?

timid silo
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should be clear that it is closed under multiplication and contains the zero vector

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verify that it is closed for addition though

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hint: find a counterexample

sullen sparrow
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yeah thats where i am struggling

timid silo
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consider liie

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the vectors (1.0, 1) and (1,1,0)

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do those two work out for what you have

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clearly they hold true individually, but what about when summed?

sullen sparrow
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because u + v = (x1 + x2, y1 + y2, z1 + z2) , so then we should do something like (x1+x2)(y1+y2)(z1+z2) ??

timid silo
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yeah

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exactly

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and that should be equal to 0

sullen sparrow
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but if we only work with x y z (and not numbers) how do i justify it

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because i get somewhere in the equation x1 multiplying by y2 and z2 or z1

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so i cannot say that it is = 0 because i dont have enough proof that it wont be 0

timid silo
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A lot of people have this misconception that you need to be direct about proofs and such always, and contradictions/counterexamples are not sufficient

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but it really isnt

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showing one counterexample makes the whole thing collapse

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and that's what you are trying to show. So don't trouble yourself by doing it generally or whatever

sullen sparrow
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ok so when do i know whether i should do a general case or get an counterexample?

timid silo
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as shown above

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also like it should be obvious to say that x1 + x2 isn't always equal to 0, even if either terms are in fact 0,

sullen sparrow
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yeah yeah

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thank you so much!!

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wind sphinx
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help me to solve please 🙏

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tropic terrace
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n is a positive integer?

timid silo
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@wind sphinx

wind sphinx
timid silo
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@wind sphinx , you could differentiate the $sin^n(x)$ term

warm shaleBOT
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Palahoo

wind sphinx
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okay ill try

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rough marten
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how to do part c)

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rough marten
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is part c inverse of part b?and how do i connect bth of them

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meager glade
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what happens when in b, you substitute x with e^y?

meager glade
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mb, y= e^x

rough marten
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ya get x

rough marten
meager glade
rough marten
meager glade
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the integral changes

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when you use substitution

rough marten
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get x

meager glade
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?

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rewrite the integral

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for y

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the whole integral

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everything about the integral

rough marten
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whats integralecstasy

meager glade
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$\int$

warm shaleBOT
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Flappie

meager glade
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thats an integral

rough marten
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o lmao..

meager glade
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maybe language issue

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thats okay

rough marten
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so rewriting the question..?

meager glade
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yes

rough marten
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let y = e^x right

meager glade
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yes

rough marten
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i cant integrate x, can i

meager glade
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substitute the rest aswell

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right now you have only subtituted one value of y

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there are 4

rough marten
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4??

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wtf

meager glade
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yes, 4

rough marten
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theres like only 2 y

meager glade
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4 places you need to replace

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the bounds aswell

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they go from y=2 to y=3

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right?

rough marten
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how do you change the bound

meager glade
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you have your substitution

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y=e^x

rough marten
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oh

meager glade
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and we have the bounds y=2 and y=3

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so to get the lower bound

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we fill in y=2 into y=e^x

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so we get 2=e^x

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but we want our new integral to be in terms of x

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so we get x=ln(2)

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for the lower bound

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similar for the upper bound

rough marten
meager glade
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yes

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but d(e^x) does nothing for us now

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so transform it into a dx

rough marten
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and how do u do that

meager glade
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we have our substitution y=e^x

rough marten
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e^x to x... add a ln?

meager glade
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we differentiate y to x

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so we get dy/dx = e^x

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thus dy=e^x dx

meager glade
rough marten
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oh

meager glade
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we replace dy with e^x dx

rough marten
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okok

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then

meager glade
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exactly

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have you had integration by parts?

rough marten
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lemme check back my notes

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this?

meager glade
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yes

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that last line

rough marten
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oh alright den its doable now

meager glade
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$\int u dv = [uv] - \int v du$

warm shaleBOT
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Flappie

rough marten
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actually why must u change the ln y to in terms of x tho

meager glade
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look at question b

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there is a reason why they asked us to calculate this

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its beacuse we are gonna need it in the next step

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so in the ln(y)dy integral we wanna go to something of that form

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we couldve also substitued x=ln(y)

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and then we get dx/dy=1/y, dx=1/y*dy

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hmm actually

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then we wouldnt go to the form of ln(y)dy that they ask

rough marten
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how do you even know to sub y=e^x tho

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is it to juz make the intergrand in terms of x

meager glade
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we see e^x in the first integral

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and we see ln(y) in the second one

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so we need some kind of substitution that makes us go from e^x to ln(y) or vice versa

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the only thing i can think of is y=e^x or x=ln(y)

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this is also kind of a experience thing

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if you see this more often

rough marten
meager glade
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you'll see what you need to substitute for

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also we see the bounds

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the bounds in b are of the form ln(something)

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and in c they are something

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which also indicates we need some e^x substitution thing

rough marten
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alrite thx for the help

meager glade
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can you do it with integration by parts?

rough marten
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i think so , i will follow the guide notes

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the questions jumped from intergrating trigo to this type of question so i was so lost bleak

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thx again! :)

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good luck

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sacred trail
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Need help with this problem

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Would it be the original answer divided by 5?

fossil crag
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Do you know how to make the first integral appear?

sacred trail
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Nope

fossil crag
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What is different between the first and second integral, not looking at the bounds?

sacred trail
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The first one is 0 to pi and the second is 0 pi/5

fossil crag
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not looking at the bounds

sacred trail
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?

fossil crag
sacred trail
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There’s a 5x in cos

fossil crag
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Yes

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But to find the first integral, you want there to be just "x" in cos

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So how do you switch from 5x to x?

sacred trail
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Multiply by 1/5?

fossil crag
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Wdym?

sacred trail
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I’m not sure how you switch

fossil crag
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What properties allow you to change from 5x to x?

sacred trail
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I’m not sure

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Divide by 5

fossil crag
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I'll repeat in a more obvious way

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What allows you to change from the variable 5x to the variable x?

sacred trail
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Well don’t you divide both sides by 5

fossil crag
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Ok let's try again

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You want to turn ln(a+bcos(5x)) into ln(a+bcos(t))

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How do you do it?

sacred trail
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U substitution?

fossil crag
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Yes

sacred trail
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Oh

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And then what do you do

fossil crag
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Did you do the u sub?

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Bc I'm pretty sure you haven't gone through it yet

sacred trail
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Idrk what I’m suppose to do after I u sub

fossil crag
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What do you get from u sub?

sacred trail
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Does it become the original answer

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Ln(a+bcos(u)du/5

fossil crag
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Well then

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If you find the bounds of integration, the answer becomes pretty clear

sacred trail
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Idk the bounds of integration though

fossil crag
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u = 5x no?

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So if x = 0, then u=...

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And if x = pi/5, then u = ...

sacred trail
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Pi

fossil crag
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Then you know the new bounds of integration

sacred trail
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So the integration would be the same

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Thing

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?

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@fossil crag

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sacred trail
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Well no

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But when you plug in for x you get the same thing as the other integral

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tropic terrace
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the limits become 0 and pi, and dt/dx=d(5x)/dx=5 so there's a factor of 1/5

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answer is 2/5 pi ln 2

sacred trail
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Ok thank you

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loud grail
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sure, what are you struggling with?

tardy epoch
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Oh are you taking a quiz right now?

timid silo
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More importantly matrices In high-school??

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Precalc and calc are understandable but I never so someone to early linear in hs

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Also we can't help with graded quizes

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It's against the rules

meager glade
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!noans

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Is this something you're supposed to be working on your own for?

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Through the middle M of the arc AC of the circumscribed circle of the triangle △ABC, a chord (MN) parallel to AB is drawn.

Show that the arcs BNC and MCN are congruent.

mint nebula
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I was thinking to prove that angle BOC and angle MON are congruent

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Please kind the choppy drawing.

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mind*

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Try proving BC = MN which would prove that the angkes are equal

mint nebula
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Well.

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OB = OC = ON = OM

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We've also got quite a lot of isoscelles triangles

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I gave it a try and was only able to prove that the 2 triangles zre similar but i need them congruent

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ok so we need BNI and MCI congruent, ive proved that theyre similiar which can be easily done. for proving one of the sides equal i wanna make use of the same slope and M being on the middle of the arc info together

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any idea how we can use that together?

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Is the following true? How can I prove it? : p | a => (p-1) | (a-1)

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Prove using vector methods that the midpoints of the sides of a space quadrilateral form a parallelogram

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not good on these types but i can do the rest like what

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doing linear algebra: isnt the whole point of gaussian elimination that its the same as gaussjordan without the last part? how can you solve a system with one or the other? doesnt gaussian not always produce an incomplete solution, and if it doesn't, then theres no more steps for you to do with jordan?

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How do I find the right answer?

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The purple bits seem fine (maybe excluding integral limits) - what did you do after that?

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Which would make it (-e^(9/2))/6+1/6

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But the actual answer was ((-e^(-3))/6+1/6) somehow?

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I crossed it out but you can still see it

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Also remember the comment about integral limits and them not being changed

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catThink so you did it of u by itself rather than of the new integral in terms of u hmmCat

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Once you get this, you want to replace all x’s with u’s

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Wait I forgot the 1/6

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Hahaha

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@deep ravine

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That’s the whole point of substitution

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Bc i havent seen it anywhere else

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You take a look at your u sub

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In this case it’s u=-3x^2

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Now you see the first limit, it’s 0, what happens when you sub in 0 for -3x^2, correct, also zero, so we write that down

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What happens when you sub in 1 for -3x^2? @deep ravine

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Or is that a different method

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Antiderivative? What do you mean?

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You just sub in the old limits to the u sub and get the new limits

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And you don’t need to sub back after that

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It stays u

deep ravine
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So u becomes (u^2)/2

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At least thats how my teacher told us to do it

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No that would be if you integrate u @deep ravine

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But we want to differentiate it so we get du to make our sub and solve for dx

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This will help you to understand it better @deep ravine

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It’s easy to understand the concept, just take a look at a few examples and you‘ll get it

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Yea i understand it now, its just that my teacher never mentioned such a method

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Anyways thanks @timid silo for ur help

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@unreal musk

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Maybe you interchange this with integration by parts

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Because there you integrate

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But this also doesn’t work always

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Hiiii I need help with this because I only just found out that 125^1/3 would be 3 radical 125 so idk which one exactly makes that true

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Does it matter where the x is

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Isn’t is useless ???

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Idk tho

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$\sqrt[a]{x^b}=x^{\frac{b}{a}}$

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Şêro

fallen inlet
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Is it always like that?

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Like a rule

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Yes it’s true for the real numbers

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But in this case

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You must use another rule too

fallen inlet
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Why

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My problem doesn’t have real numbers ??

timid silo
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It does 125 is for example a real number

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Ignore this now

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What can you write $\sqrt[3]{125}$ as with the rule mentioned?

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Şêro

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I can 125^x/3

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But what is x/3

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@fallen inlet in fact the more general rule is that the definition of $\sqrt[n]{a} = x^{\frac{1}{a}}$

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125=125^1

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Because in the problems there’s x in all equations

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Benjamin

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See this, your x is 125

twin sapphire
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lets not make things confusing

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x already exists in the exercise

timid silo
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Yes

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twin sapphire
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ok so apply that to our case

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to get rid of the root

timid silo
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You can rewrite the $\sqrt[3]{125}$ as $125^{\frac{1}{3}}$

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Şêro

fallen inlet
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It would be 125^1/3 ?

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Yeah

twin sapphire
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yes

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so now

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do you know your rules on exponents?

fallen inlet
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Not really

timid silo
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Now you need to use this rule $(a^b)^c=a^{b\cdot c}$

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Şêro

twin sapphire
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do you get why we are using this rule?

fallen inlet
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No

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I don’t know how to use it because I have fraction now

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twin sapphire
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so we have $(125^{1/3})^x$ right?

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Benjamin

fallen inlet
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Yeah

twin sapphire
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1/3 =b ?

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It doesn’t matter if it’s integers or fractions, a,b and c can stand for anything

twin sapphire
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1/3 is a number right?

fallen inlet
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Kind of yeah

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Ohh ok

twin sapphire
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wdym kind of

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its a number

fallen inlet
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Bc it’s a fraction

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Yeah still a number

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Lol sorry

twin sapphire
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its not an integer right

fallen inlet
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Nooo

twin sapphire
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but its a number

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?

fallen inlet
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Yes

twin sapphire
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so use the rule

fallen inlet
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125^1/3timesX ?

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yes

fallen inlet
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Ohhh ok I got it now thx

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But there’s another kind of similar can u also help me ???

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It’s this and I only know that 81^1/3 is 3 radical 81

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Should I simplify that

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you can do it from one way or the other

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nvm there are 4 choices

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$81=9\cdot9=3^2\cdot 3^2=3^3\cdot 3$

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use \times sero

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Şêro

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Oh

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Okay

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What about the extra 3 s

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And stuff

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In the answer options

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I only ended up with 3 radical 3

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And 3 inside the radical used to be 81

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Or is 3^3 times 3 the same as 3^3 radical 3?

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and apply the power rules

fallen inlet
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Ok

twin sapphire
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what do you get?

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Which power rules exactly ?

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Imnot sure

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there are only 3 power rules

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a^-1 = 1/a

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and $a^{b+c} = a^b \times a^c$

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i need help with this trig identity

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i tried to do the left side first

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and i am struggling

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i just did the sum and difference identity

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very well

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and next

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just divide numerator and denominator

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by

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you shud see , them , right side at once

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you mean cos(a)cos(b)/cos(a)cos(b) ?

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numerator / cosacosb and denominator / cosacosb

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such thing:

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Joanna Angel

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and that is almost all

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it would cancel each other out

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oh wait

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i see the factoring

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yeeah

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i did it

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1-tan(a)tan(b) / 1+tan(a)tan(b)

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$=\frac{1-\frac{\sin\alpha}{\cos\alpha}\cdot \frac{\sin\beta}{\cos\beta}}{1+\frac{\sin\alpha}{\cos\alpha}\cdot \frac{\sin\beta}{\cos\beta}}$

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Joanna Angel

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yes! 🙂

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trig identities are hard for me ngl

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there are so many

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they require experiences and practises

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but i have to revise them since i am doing calc next sem

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Ok I have a system of equations that I have to solve.

p^2+2p+q=24
2q+p=4

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I’m not really sure what to do

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I don’t know where to begin

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do you know any method at all for solving systems of equations?

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Yes, I know a few. I believe you can add the equations, subtract them, or substitute

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Or you could graph them (but I’m not familiar with this)

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okay so we have 2 equations and 2 unknowns, p and q

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you're right that we can kind of add and subtract with them

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so with that in mind, what operation would you do here with the two equations?

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Addition?

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well, i think it'll be easier if we just try and work with one variable, don't you?

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how can we work with only one variable here?

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yes, but my point is that with some creative addition or subtraction we can derive an equation of only one unknown

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then solve for one, and use that to solve the other.

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I get that

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can you see any way of getting that single variable equation?

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Would it be good if we got one variable on each side of the equation?

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Or no

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imagine the first equation is a variable, A, and the second is B. how can we add or subtract multiples of these equations together like xA + yB = C

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there's 2p in the first equation, and only p in the second equation

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so if we wanted to get rid of 2p, what should we do?

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Could we multiply the second equation *2 and then subtract the two equations?

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I feel like that’s not what you said but I’m not sure what else

azure anchor
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no you are on the right track

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so we multiply the second equation by 2 and subtract.

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how would you set this up?

golden sierra
azure anchor
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ugh im sorry, i wasn't paying attention. notice if we get rid of p we are still going to work with 2 variables because p^2 remains.

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That doesn’t work

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Wait

azure anchor
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so we should get rid of q

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Lmao it’s ok

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Ok

azure anchor
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similar logic though

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Ummm

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Multiply the first equation by 2?

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Will it become like a quadratic

azure anchor
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yes

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Ughhh

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Hate quadratics

azure anchor
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$$x = \frac {-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 -4ac}} {2a},$$

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b0ngl0rd

golden sierra
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What is X

azure anchor
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p in this case

golden sierra
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Oh

azure anchor
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there will be two solutions

golden sierra
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I have 2p^2+3p-44=0

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Is this right

azure anchor
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its what i got

golden sierra
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Ok

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I got a weird number

azure anchor
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what did you get

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-3+-sqrt-343

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Wait no

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I got

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-3+-sqrt361

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Ok so My final answer is p=(4,5.5) and q=(0,4.75)

azure anchor
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thats what i got

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they might want exact answers though

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not decimals

golden sierra
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Idk what’s an exact answer

azure anchor
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fractions, radicals

golden sierra
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Sorry, what’s a radical?

azure anchor
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root signs

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Ohh

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Got it!

azure anchor
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but hold upo

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your second p answer should be negative

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Ok

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Oh sorry

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You are correct

azure anchor
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can you write it out in exact form?

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Ummm

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I don’t know

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What that looks like

azure anchor
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the answer before you made them decimals

golden sierra
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9.5/2

azure anchor
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decimals are an "approximate" answer when working by hand

golden sierra
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Uh

azure anchor
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you should've gotten something like that while working the quadratic formula

golden sierra
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Yeah that’s exactly what I got

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thats what i mean

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by exact answer

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Oh

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Ohhhh

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Ok

azure anchor
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its a better answer in nearly all cases unless it asks you specifically to use decimals

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but you had it right, so good job

golden sierra
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How did u get 19/4

azure anchor
golden sierra
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Oh well I’m not that smart

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I just used a calculator

azure anchor
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you should practice this if you plan on taking college algebra

golden sierra
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I’m a junior right now

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My

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school system is strict with taking classes

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U can take AP calc only senior year

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OK anyways thank you for

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The help

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So much

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And being patient

azure anchor
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well, what i mean is, if you plan on going further. itll help you a lot to work with pen and paper

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no problem, good luck with your class

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$$
l1 : \frac{x-2}{n}=\frac{y-5}{-9}=\frac{z+4}{-5}
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$$
l2 : \frac{x+3}{-1}=\frac{y-1}{n}=\frac{z+2}{1}
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theese lines will never be parallel for any n?

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right?

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$$
\frac{n}{-1}=\frac{-9}{n}=\frac{-5}{1}
$$

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so if we look at 1 and 3, n must be 5, but -9/5 is not -5

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am i missing something?

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The base of the right prism is a triangle and its side has lengths a=6 cm and b=5. Calculate the surface area of ​​that prism, if your height isH 4 cm

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ive done up until finding everything

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it just wont

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yes

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c=H so thats 4

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ive found the base thats a times b

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i dont have it on paper

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let me write it

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What is a "right prism"

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wait

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since english isht my firdt

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but the bases in this case

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ive found a b and c

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then found the base

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it still wont come out

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right

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i csnt seem to do it

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we can't tell what you're doing wrong without seeing it in writing

kind gust
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this is the drawing

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now how do i find perimiter of base

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hello @kind gust I can help if you are here

slow pier
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weird

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is that triangle prism?

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triangle base, two bases are equal shape and their surfaces parallel?

royal mulch
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yeah they will need two more rectangles to solve this bad boy

slow pier
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i dont like how only 2 lines connect base vertices

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also triangle on top must be same as on bottom

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unless perspective, but perspective isnt very common in math schemes

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actually perspective is bad as i know, distortion can be confusing

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Hi

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I cant find mu channel

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I have a binomial question and I just need to know if its correct, the question I have is "Six people are asked to choose a number between 1 and 20, what is the probability that two people choose the number 9", would I use the formula nCr(20,0)(9)^0(11)^9 + nCr(20,1)(9)^1(11)^8 + etc, until I reach nCr(20,9)(9)^9(11)^0??

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is there a binomial channel

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No u jus gtta start an available one

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oh ok

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x+y=9 and xy=20
write y=9-x in the second 20=xy=x(9-x)=-x^2+9x => x^2-9x+20=0

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Can anyone help me solve this?

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sqrt(5+sqrt(24))=1/(sqrt(5-sqrt(24)))

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There is also exponential x

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set a=(sqrt(5+sqrt(24)))^x then the equation becomes a-10=1/a

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Ohh

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this is a quadratic equation

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Oh yeah?

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ahh now I see

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After I solve the a-10=1/a I get x = 5+- sqrt(26)

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from that part how do we solve it?

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moriaritie

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,w solve a-10=1/a

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ok a is positive because 5+√24 is positive so a=5+√26

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mhm

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so (sqrt(5+sqrt(24)))^x=5+√26 use log

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Alright

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its should be about 2,01745?

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Is the answer to this B?

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How do I find the sum of the smallest elements of r elements subsets of the set {1,2,3,...,n}?

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let k be a number between 1 and n. in how many sets of r numbers does it appear as the smallest?

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I guess in one subset only?

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incorrect.

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yes

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Oh ok and any element greater than or equal to (n-r) cannot be a smallest element? thus k ranges from 1 to (n-r-1)

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n-r itself can be the smallest

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even n-r+1 can

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anything higher can't

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Yeah yeah right n-r+2 and higher can't be

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F(n,r) = $\frac{\sum\limits_{k=1}^{n-r+2} k\binom{n-k}{r-1}}{\sum\limits_{k=1}^{n-r+2} \binom{n-k}{r-1}}$?

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Normed

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How do I simplify this to (n+1) over (r+1)?

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express...what lol

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oh

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lol

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im just a bit confused on the slope part

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ive expressed it as finding the roots

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and then also finding the coordinates of inflection in terms of k

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but i dont understand how to do

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part b and c

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idk if u here

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@candid rock sry for ping would you help or are you busy

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yeah sorry, I'm fairly clueless 😦

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so x>0

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Yes

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x^2-52x-52>0

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so i think we can use qudratic formula here

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i got 26+/- 4root39

timid silo
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would it be just 51?

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,w solve x^2-52x-52>0

final thunder
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Well apparently that’s wrong

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,w 26-2sqrt(182)