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forest sinew
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you cant, its not equal to a whole number

warped violet
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oh

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a number w decimals

forest sinew
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its unnecessary

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you dont actually need to know what 10/9 is

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or what 10/9 ^2 is

warped violet
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oh

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so how do i solve

forest sinew
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you said 10/9 is bigger than 1?

warped violet
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yes

forest sinew
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what happens if you multiply something by a number thats bigger than 1

warped violet
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grows

forest sinew
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okay

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so we start with 10/9

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its bigger than 1

warped violet
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yes

forest sinew
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we multiply it by 10/9

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and it grows

warped violet
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yes

forest sinew
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is it still bigger than 1?

warped violet
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yes

forest sinew
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okay

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theres your answer happy

warped violet
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so it’s a solution?

forest sinew
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whats necessary for a number to be a solution to that inequality?

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it looked like it was $0 < x \leq 1$?

warm shaleBOT
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jan Niku

warped violet
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less than or equal to 1

forest sinew
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so the number must be bigger than 0, but no bigger than 1

warped violet
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oh

forest sinew
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is (10/9)^2 no bigger than 1?

warped violet
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i don’t know

forest sinew
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is (10/9)^2 bigger than 1?

warped violet
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no

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wait

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yes

forest sinew
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okay

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a number thats a solution to that inequality has to be positive, but cant be bigger than 1

warped violet
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so it’s not a solution?

forest sinew
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if you have a number than is 0, negative, or bigger than 1, its not a solution

forest sinew
warped violet
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it’s not

forest sinew
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right

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does that give you an idea of how to solve the rest of them?

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i guess maybe you can use a calculator, but its not necessary

warped violet
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i think i did. the rest of the problem

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i need help with this one though

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warped violet
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warped violet
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sorry for late reply

upbeat gazelle
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Which ones are problematic?

warped violet
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vast crow
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I’m not sure if 1. My model is correct, and 2. How I can find the angles

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foggy idol
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Oi

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How ya doing

vast crow
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not good

foggy idol
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Oh

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Well lets change that lol

vast crow
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i have like a a week and a half to complete half a semester of precalc cus i put it off lol

foggy idol
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Well

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I may be able to help I may not

vast crow
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well i hope its the prior rather than the latter

vast crow
# vast crow

i have no idea what the first step would be in finding the angles

fiery nacelle
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Triangles

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And

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Calculate angles

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📐

vast crow
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Like this?

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idk how to find the remaining angles

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oh wait nvm

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got it

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remote timber
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Sorry I totally forgot to respond, I was wondering if I could get help on like understanding this problem?..

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ionic summit
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This might be a silly question, but.. when exactly do you know when to set for example two functions of z equal to eachother to find the projection on the xy plane. Sometimes you don't need to do that and you can just set z = 0 or and get the region immediadtly. Im having a hard time picking up when to do/not do to so

ionic summit
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To find volumes with tripple integrals

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there was this textbook problem (25) and I could not properly figure out the bounds

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ionic summit
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spring fractal
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do you need to solve xyz?

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i gotta do my math so i gtg bye

hot sonnet
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Hello. Well in these problems the figures show that the lower bound for z is 0 🤔

ionic summit
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Sure, its bounded by the first octant

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so thats kind of trival

hot sonnet
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When the lower bound (floor) is not constant, you usually have to find the intersection with the ceiling function

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(in case you want to find the volume between them)

ionic summit
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yep

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uhhh ima just look at this question again later

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im more concerend about

ionic summit
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feel free to ping if u have an explination

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well i dont actually really wanna be checking back here so

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timid silo
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is it enough for a) to just say any dot product w_j * v_j is 0?

timid silo
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i also have no clue how to do b and c

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oh decomposition theorem for b

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and i needed to say w_i * v_j for all i != j

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stoic elm
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is my answer right lol

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stoic elm
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idk i was hoping someone would explain 😦 my brother told me the answer but he didnt have time to explain it

forest glade
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BRO

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we r doing the exact same assignment

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i can help u dm me

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r u also doing accelerate

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hushed gust
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Hi guys! I have some questions regarding 3, 4, and 5

hushed gust
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3(a)
y is not divisible by 4 for all possible values of y. For example if x and y are both 2, x is not divisible by 4 but xy (2 * 2 = 4) is divisible by 4.

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I'm not sure about 3(b)

civic zealot
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if y is not divisible by 2, but xy is divisible by 4, then what does x have to be divisible by?

hushed gust
civic zealot
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more than that...

hushed gust
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if y is not divisible by 2 but xy is divisible by 4, x must be divisible by 4?

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if y is not div by 4 (y=3) but xy % 4 = 0, x % 4 = 0

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brisk arrow
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Given f(x) is polynomial

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sage geode
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$\dv{}{x}f(6) \ne f'(6)$

warm shaleBOT
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A Lonely Bean

wooden cipher
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e.g. x^2

sage geode
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Well, the case f'(6) = 0 would be an exception

wooden cipher
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Oh wait

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I read that wrong

sage geode
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Generally $\dv{}{x}f(a) = 0$ given $a$ is a constant

warm shaleBOT
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A Lonely Bean

brisk arrow
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What

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I don’t get it, how do you conclude that a is a constant

sage geode
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Is 6 a constant?

brisk arrow
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It is

sage geode
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So $\dv{}{x}f(6) = 0$

warm shaleBOT
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A Lonely Bean

sage geode
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And not f'(6)

brisk arrow
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That is true since f(6) is a constant

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And the derivative of a constant is zero

sage geode
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Right

brisk arrow
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Well

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I wonder what’s the difference between f’(6) and d/dx f(6)

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In meaning and definition

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Not just the mathematical results

tame dock
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check once

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any random polynomial can be taken also

brisk arrow
brisk arrow
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Like how to understand it generally

wooden cipher
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$\frac{d(f(x))}{dx} \vert_{x=6}$

warm shaleBOT
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GarlicBredFries

tame dock
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look in the case of f(6) the value of x is already assigned which will yield a constant value whose derivative is 0
if the polynomial is differentiated first and then the value is taken the anser will be differnt

wooden cipher
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Lol little vertical bar

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tame dock
wooden cipher
warm shaleBOT
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GarlicBredFries

brisk arrow
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I’m asking for the difference between d/dx f(6) and f’(6)

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In meaning

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What does these implied?

tame dock
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gimme a min will be sending a photo

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now check once and tell me if i am right or wrong

brisk arrow
tame dock
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like what happened

brisk arrow
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I can’t comprehend
These green underlined and circled contexts

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They are too sketchy

tame dock
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ohhh i am really sorry

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i just differentiated the equation first and then i substituted the value of x which comes out to be 15

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sage dagger
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Find an equation for the tangent line to sin^2(x) at x = π/3

sage dagger
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How does this work?

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So I have it’s derivative 2sinxcosx

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Do I just substitute in pi/3 now?

royal basin
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have you found tangent lines before

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y/n

sage dagger
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Yes many times

royal basin
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yeah

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this is no different

sage dagger
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oh

sage dagger
royal basin
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would you do that in any other tangent line problem

sage dagger
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if I was asked to find something like f’(3) and I have a function like f(x) = x^2 + 3x then yeah if I recall correctly

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Wait

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No

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No

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no

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I know what to do with pi/3

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that’s my x1

royal basin
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i think you've confused yourself by not using proper notation here

sage dagger
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y-y1=m(x-x1)

royal basin
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like you didn't give the function a name

sage dagger
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bob

royal basin
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ok fine

sage dagger
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Don’t sully me

royal basin
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bob(x) = sin^2(x)

sage dagger
royal basin
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$y - bob(x_1) = bob'(x_1) (x - x_1)$, or something.

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sage dagger
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oh is sin^2(x) my y value

royal basin
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...

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i mean

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yes? but also you should understand one basic thing

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the tangent line GOES THRU a point on your graph.

fathom flicker
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define thru

sage dagger
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yeah

royal basin
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like if you dont understand this simple thing then wtf is the point!

royal basin
sage dagger
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Oh wait

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I forgot to expand

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I forgor 💀

tardy epoch
tardy epoch
sage dagger
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Is this better

royal basin
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o

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ver

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thin

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king

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also bad

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the fact your equation is nonlinear is a huge red flag

sage dagger
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It has sin terms in it how is it gonna end up straight line

royal basin
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you're writing down a tangent LINE

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bob(pi/3) = sin^2(pi/3) = (sqrt(3)/2)^2 = 3/4

bob'(pi/3) = 2 sin(pi/3) cos(pi/3) = 2 * sqrt(3)/2 * 1/2 = sqrt(3)/2

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your equation should have been

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$y - \frac{3}{4} = \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}(x - \pi/3)$

warm shaleBOT
sage dagger
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How did you get square roots

royal basin
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sin(pi/3) = sqrt(3)/2

sage dagger
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oh

royal basin
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basic trig

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dispel the notion that such things can be forgotten

sage dagger
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Wait so I was supposed to substitute pi/3

royal basin
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sure you were

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but like

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not phrased in those terms

sage dagger
royal basin
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the tangent at x=c to the graph of a differentiable function y = f(x)

is the line which goes through the point (c, f(c)) with slope f'(c)

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calculating f(c) and f'(c), if you should desire to have that be stated explicitly, requires substituting c for x in the formulas for f(x) itself and f'(x) respectively.

sage dagger
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So I had the right idea originally

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You could’ve warned me sully sully sully

royal basin
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you had the right idea but you phrased it in D-tier terms

sage dagger
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Well

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I basically said that

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substitute

royal basin
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i maintain my point that your wording was D-tier.

sage dagger
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Wait so what is supposed to go where in

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y - y1 = m(x - x1)

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so its y - sin^2(x)?

royal basin
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no...

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y1 is the y coord of the point of contact...

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its not supposed to depend on anything...

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its not supposed to be a function...

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its supposed to be a number for gods sake...

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(x1, y1) is your point of contact

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its the point on the fucking graph

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whose x coordinate, x1, is given

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and whose y coordinate, y1, is immediately calculable

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and you're supposed to calculate it

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not BLINDLY mind you

sage dagger
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Yeah so how do I know what my y1 is

royal basin
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ITS ON THE BLOODY GRAPH

sage dagger
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What

royal basin
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IF YOU KNOW A POINT LIES ON y=f(x) AND YOU KNOW ITS X COORD HOW DO YOU FIND ITS BLOODY Y COORDINATE

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THE FORMULA OF THE GRAPH LITERALLY FUCKING TELLS YOU

sage dagger
tight thunder
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ann chill

royal basin
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IT LIES. ON. THE. GOD. DAMN. GRAPH.

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its such BASICS that you should KNOW already by the time you're doing calculus for FUCKS sake

sage dagger
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So do I substitute in 0 for sin^2(x)

royal basin
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WHY ZERO

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WHY ZEROOO

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WHY???

sage dagger
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cuz you get y value

royal basin
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BUT WHY DO YOU TAKE X=0

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AND NOT X=PI/3 THATS GIVEN TO YOU

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EVERY BLOODY DAY YOU CHOOSE TO THROW STONES DIRECTLY IN MY FACE

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this is like

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at least 5 puppy deaths in one go

sage dagger
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So sin^2(pi/3) is y1

royal basin
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yes

polar fossil
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this sketch may be helpful here to visualize what's going on

fathom flicker
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maybe just refresh point-slope form of a line?

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I mean if you can find the derivative, which is the slope of your desired tangent line, then all you need is a point, and I mean like it's very simple from there

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unless of course you are not familiar with point-slope form

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in which case you should get familiar

royal basin
polar fossil
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oh oops

obtuse pebbleBOT
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@sage dagger Has your question been resolved?

royal basin
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no of fucking course it hasnt who are we kidding

sage dagger
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fr

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ok and then I plug in pi/3 into my derivative?

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for the m part of the tangent line eq

polar fossil
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the derivative of your function at pi/3 will be the same as the slope of your line

dusk widget
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then you can use f(π/3) = m(π/3) + b

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and solve for b

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which would yield your tangent line

sage dagger
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But isn’t it y-y1=m(x-x1)

dusk widget
sage dagger
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It’s the tangent line equation

dusk widget
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oh, you're using point-slope form?

sage dagger
dusk widget
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why not use slope-intercept form

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its the same thing

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y = mx + b

sage dagger
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eh

dusk widget
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it's easier to work with here

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since we have everything we need to know

sage dagger
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y-y1=m(x-x1) is how it was taught to me so that’s what I’m gonna stick with

polar fossil
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ok do that

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you have a slope, and a point (it's in blue on the graph i drew)

sage dagger
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That’s x1 right

polar fossil
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yes, (x1, y1) is the point

sage dagger
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the m is 2sin(pi/3)cos(pi/3)

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but that’s not linear

polar fossil
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wdym that's not linear

sage dagger
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Doesn’t it have to be a straight line equation

polar fossil
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,calc 2 * sin(pi/3) * cos(pi/3)

warm shaleBOT
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Result:

0.86602540378444
polar fossil
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seems like a number to me

polar fossil
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m is just a number

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y = mx + b is the equation of a line

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$y - y_1 = m(x - x_1)$ is also the equation of a line

warm shaleBOT
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Hayley

polar fossil
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in both of these equations, m is a real number

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which describes the slope of the line

sage dagger
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Since m is 2sin(pi/3)cos(pi/3) then it has to be 2sin(pi/3)cos(pi/3)(x - pi/3) no?

polar fossil
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yes that does seem like the result

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write both sides of the equation though

sage dagger
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I did something similar here and Ann said it was wrong

polar fossil
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what you did there was confusing

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because you conflated x and x_1

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in particular you had the name x meaning two different things at once

polar fossil
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if you'd like

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but again you should write both sides of the equation before you do that

sage dagger
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Wdym

polar fossil
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we're trying to find the equation of a line

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equations have equals signs

polar fossil
sage dagger
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Oh right

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rare estuary
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My question is: Find all numbers $r$ such that $$ \begin{bmatrix} 2 & 4 & 2 \ 1 & r & 3 \ 1 &2 & 1 \end{bmatrix}$$ is invertible

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April | Koi of Mahjong

rare estuary
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I know that can easily be done with determinants

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however at this point in class, we have not talked about determinants and thus we can not use that method to determine $r$

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April | Koi of Mahjong

fresh nymph
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ok so how would you go about inverting a matrix ?

rare estuary
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set up an augmented matrix, and try to put the left hand side of it in row-echelon form

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so $$ \left[ \begin{array}{ccc|ccc} 2 & 4 & 2 & 1 & 0 & 0 \ 1 & r & 3 & 0 & 1 & 0 \ 1 & 2 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 1 \end{array} \right]$$

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April | Koi of Mahjong

fresh nymph
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yes exactly

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so you need to do operations on columns for example to obtain identity on left side

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try first to get the first and last column right and this will probably give you a condition on r

rare estuary
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It can't be inverted no matter the value $r$ since performing $R_{3} \rightarrow R_{3} - \frac{1}{2} R_{1}$ results in $$ \left[ \begin{array}{ccc|ccc} 2 &4 & 2 & 1 & 0 & 0 \ 1 & r & 3 & 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 0 & -\frac{1}{2} & 0 & 1 \end{array} \right] $$ right?

fresh nymph
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yep

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April | Koi of Mahjong

rare estuary
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I should of thought of that lol. Thank you :))

fresh nymph
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np

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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
6. None of the above
cyan geyser
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I can do i, ii but not the rest.

lusty goblet
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Think of adding tiles as state transition.

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First, you have tile [E/ZZZE]. You can't add more of this tile, so let's start with initial state ZZZ

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Then think something like tile [X/Z] as popping the tile Z at the front and adding X at the back.

cyan geyser
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Hmmm.

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Yeah I see it now. Tyvm.

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rotund arch
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j(x) = 2^x

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rotund arch
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jj(x) = 2^2x?

royal basin
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if by jj(x) you mean j(j(x)) then no.

rotund arch
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ok

ruby path
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if you mean j(x)*j(x) you're right

rotund arch
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question only show jj(x)

sage geode
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The book should somewhere define what fg means when f and g are functions

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forest quartz
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Alright, the question is this

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forest quartz
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I want to know how negative powers work

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We got given this sheet and the proof is confusing

leaden ginkgo
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which part do you find confusing?

forest quartz
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How does a^0 ÷ a^n proof negative powers becoming 1/a^n

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More like

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Why is a^0 there

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Like I don't see who it wouldn't be let's say a^1

leaden ginkgo
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a^0 is just 1, any number raised to the power of 0 is 1

forest quartz
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We got told that anything raised to a power, eg: 3^3 = 3x3x3

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So why isn't 3^-1, -3

tacit scarab
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that definition only work for positive integers

forest quartz
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Why os that?

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That's kinda my confusion

tacit scarab
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because it makes no sense talking about -1 three's multiplied together

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It's a little hard subject

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but sometimes in math we extend the definition

forest quartz
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Because i understand I have to do a,b,c to get an answer but I like knowing why that happens

tacit scarab
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ok now let's think of only positive integers

forest quartz
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Alright

tacit scarab
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and with those we have our rules about index

forest quartz
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I don't remember them all but I know what you're taking about

tacit scarab
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now we want to understand negative powers

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and when doing it

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we want them to follow the pre existing rules

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ok?

forest quartz
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Yup

tacit scarab
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first do you know x^0 = 1

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for all x except 0

forest quartz
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Yea

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Because it's like x^2 - x^2 = x^0 and it must equal 1

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I mean div

tacit scarab
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yes

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we can do the same thing with negative powers

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consider $x^{-1}\times x^1$

forest quartz
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Yo what that's cool

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

tacit scarab
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what would it become

forest quartz
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I would slide the power both to one x right?

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So

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X^-1+1

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So x^0?

tacit scarab
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nice

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and x^0 = 1

forest quartz
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Yea

tacit scarab
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we have $x^{-1}\times x^1 = 1$

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

tacit scarab
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now we can solve for x^-1

forest quartz
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1/x^1 = x^-1

tacit scarab
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that's how negative powers work

forest quartz
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Damn ._.

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Kinda felt like a slap in the face how easy it was

tacit scarab
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math is super logical so if you see the reasoning everything is easy

forest quartz
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1/9^1 = 9^-1

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Cool

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And vice versa

tacit scarab
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yep

forest quartz
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9^-1 = 1/9

tacit scarab
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any other questions?

forest quartz
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This has multiple powers

tacit scarab
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in this case you can use the fact that $(a^b)^c=a^{bc}$

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

tacit scarab
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you can skip this once you are comfortable with indices

forest quartz
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Skip what?

tacit scarab
forest quartz
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So (1 2/5^1)^-3

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1 2/5^-3?

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That doesn't seem right

tacit scarab
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what

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that doesn't help

forest quartz
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The question

tacit scarab
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first

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in math we like improper fractions cause they are easier to calculate

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second -3 = -1*3

forest quartz
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7/5

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1*-3 also equals -3 doesn't it?

tacit scarab
forest quartz
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Wait

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So

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7/5^-3 is the simplest form

tacit scarab
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no?

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we want to remove the power

forest quartz
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Sorry I meant like using the (a^b)^c = a^bc

tacit scarab
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umm

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in this case we do it backwards

forest quartz
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A^bc = 7/5^-3 ?

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But then what do I do

tacit scarab
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so when you have negative powers

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like x^-2

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you can kind of seperate the negative

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$x^{-2}=(x^2)^{-1}=\frac{1}{x^2}$

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

forest quartz
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So it's like when they got

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*go

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2^18 = 2^10 * 2^8

tacit scarab
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yes

forest quartz
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So (7/5)^-3

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Can become

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(7/5^3)^-1

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Which becomes

tacit scarab
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we notate that as ((7/5)^3)^-1 btw

forest quartz
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1/(7/5^3)?

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Notation Is so weird on pc

tacit scarab
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true

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try to calculate it

forest quartz
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And so solve 7/5^3

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With these questions do u turn it into a number or stay as a fraction?

tacit scarab
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?

forest quartz
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Like does the final answer become like 3.5 or smth

tacit scarab
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fraction is fine

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you can use decimal if you like

tacit scarab
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with decimal

forest quartz
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Why is that?

tacit scarab
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umm you'd understand if you try

forest quartz
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Ok

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7/5^3 is just 7x7x7 = 343/5 right?

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You don't multiply the bottom?

tacit scarab
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you do

forest quartz
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Why D:

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Always wondered that with factions aswell

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When do u change the bottom or not

tacit scarab
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remember $(ab)^c=a^cb^c$

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

tacit scarab
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and $\frac{a}{b} $ is really just $a\times\frac{1}{b}$

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

forest quartz
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So 7/5 is just 7×1/5

tacit scarab
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you can think of it this way

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if it helps you remember

forest quartz
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And so ab in this equation is 7/5

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A =7 b= 1/5?

tacit scarab
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yeah

forest quartz
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W

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So it becomes

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7^3 = 343

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1/5^3

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How would you figure this out?

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I would turn it into a decimal

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But how do you keep it in fraction fom

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Form

tacit scarab
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$(\frac{1}{a})^b=\frac{1}{a^b}$

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

forest quartz
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Is this another indicie rule

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Wait so it's proof would be

tacit scarab
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I think this is pretty intuitive

forest quartz
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Well not proof

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But like

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This would be using what logic?

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Trying to do this all in your head and on your phone it's hard to keep track of everything established so far

tacit scarab
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think of b as positive integers then $(\frac{1}{a})^b=(\frac{1}{a})(\frac{1}{a})...$

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with b 1/a multiplied together

forest quartz
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I need a sec to gothrough this

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

forest quartz
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What the '...x?

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Oh

tacit scarab
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it means it keeps going

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I wrote that poorly the first time lol

lavish creek
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Whats the question here?

forest quartz
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So 1/5^3

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= 125

tacit scarab
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no

forest quartz
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So 343/125

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Wait

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Mb

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Mb

tacit scarab
lavish creek
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Oh, okay

forest quartz
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Don't bully me

lavish creek
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I guess I can help a little, I'm pretty good at it

forest quartz
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:,(

tacit scarab
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no one is bullying you

lavish creek
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Its just something you learn over trial

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You'll get it

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It soon becomes a natural thing you will do

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Just keep the work up

forest quartz
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Right

lavish creek
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And where are you struggling on?

forest quartz
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So (7/5)^-3

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= ((7/5)^3)^-1

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And then u solve 7/5^3

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Wait I think I'm missing a step

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Wait no

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Yea where does this ^-1 go to

lavish creek
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it just makes a fraction which I am pretty sure is x/1

forest quartz
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it just vanishes because it's just multiplying itself or smh

lavish creek
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Its like 9pm, so I might be frong

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Wrong

forest quartz
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Ok

forest quartz
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Which is

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343/125

lavish creek
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yeah

forest quartz
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And then (343/125)^-1

lavish creek
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Ohhh

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Noo

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I'm wrong

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Sorry

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Its 1/x

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The x being (343/125) in this case

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It is just how much you multiply it buy

forest quartz
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It's also 9 forcmr so we're both having aneurysms

tacit scarab
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btw $\frac{1}{\frac{a}{b}}=\frac{b}{a}$

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

lavish creek
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Ye

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That thing, forgot a little about it, considering that I am working ahead

forest quartz
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Hold on so that ^-1 becomes that top one because of that proof we established at the very beginning right

tacit scarab
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yes

forest quartz
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Nice

lavish creek
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So it starts as this: (7/5)^3

forest quartz
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-3

lavish creek
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Then: (343/125)^-1

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oOPS

tacit scarab
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or you can think of it as $(\frac{a}{b})^{-1}=\frac{a^{-1}}{b^{-1}}=\frac{b}{a}$

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

forest quartz
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Yea we got told it's reciprocal

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But reciprocals are so bum

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They do so many weird stuff

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We have a teacher that basically only copies text books

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So our foundation is just copy paste words

lavish creek
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Start: (7/5)^-3
Then [(7/5)^3]^-1
Then (343/125)^-1
It then flips to 1/(343/125)
Which changes to 125/343 (I think)

forest quartz
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Yea

lavish creek
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Nice

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Wait, how do you write roots?

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Like on the server

forest quartz
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Bro I just go sqrt lol

lavish creek
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Alr

forest quartz
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Sqrt(9)

lavish creek
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That would be 3

forest quartz
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Mhm

lavish creek
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And did you learn that x^(1/2) = (sqrt)x

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Since if you haven't that would likely be next

tacit scarab
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I don't think they started learning that

lavish creek
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Oh, okay

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Its fine I guess

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But if you want to learn more about it I would be happy to help

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Diana was stacking dominos at a constant rate. In 1 minute, she stacked 2 dominos, in 2 mintues she stacked 4 domins and in 3 she stacked 8 dominos. (a) find an equation that shows how many dominos were stacked as a function of time. Answer: y=2^(t). (b) the equation was then modified such that diana had already stacked A domines before continuing at a constant rate described above. Find the value of A if at the 10 minute mark there was 1030 dominos stacked

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atomic bobcat
royal basin
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Diana was stacking dominos at a constant rate. In 1 minute, she stacked 2 dominos, in 2 mintues she stacked 4 domins and in 3 she stacked 8 dominos.

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...

spring lantern
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wait lemme rewrite

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sorry

royal basin
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this problem contradicts itself.

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"dominos are stacked at a constant rate" and "2 dominos at t=1, 4 dominos at t=2, 8 dominos at t=3" cannot coexist.

spring lantern
royal basin
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wtf

spring lantern
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I need help with part (C)

royal basin
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where do you keep getting these nonsense questions from...

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i mean, non-realism aside

spring lantern
polar fossil
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charitably I guess it's a consistent rate but whatever

royal basin
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you cannot have a function both "grow at a constant rate" and not be linear.

tacit scarab
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Diana is going to exceed light speed lol

spring lantern
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like last week

tacit scarab
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no

spring lantern
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cmon

atomic bobcat
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a part is fairly straightforward

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i think

spring lantern
royal basin
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it's also withheld from us whether c is meant to be a continuation of b or its own thing

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so you're fucked on that front too

polar fossil
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i don't think that will change the answer

spring lantern
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my answer for a was y=2^t

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my answer for b was A=6

polar fossil
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tbh I'd say just make a table, it grows so fast that it won't take that many entries

atomic bobcat
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if c is independent of b then it is2^t <1000000

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but main question here is why does Diana need so many Dominos

spring lantern
royal basin
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the difference is small but not zero

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and it is withheld from us how many decimal places we are supposed to round to, if we are supposed to at all.

polar fossil
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it won't if t is discrete

royal basin
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who said it was

atomic bobcat
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they should use multiplication of bacteria as realistic example

spring lantern
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I thought this question would be straighfoward 😵‍💫

polar fossil
spring lantern
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🙋🏻

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helo

atomic bobcat
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tbh I don't even understand b part of this question

spring lantern
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'A' is number of dominos

atomic bobcat
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nvm i got it

spring lantern
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u still there @atomic bobcat

atomic bobcat
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yeah

spring lantern
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have you thought of question c?

atomic bobcat
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ohhh you are still stuck

spring lantern
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yes

atomic bobcat
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i thought Ann told you ans

spring lantern
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no not really

atomic bobcat
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okie

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so it basically ask 2^t < 1000000

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assuming it is not connected to b part

spring lantern
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oh ok

atomic bobcat
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you can use property of log to find it then

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it will be around 20 i think

spring lantern
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ok thx for your help

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inland thicket
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guys

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anyone know what is this

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symbol

tacit scarab
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tau

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$\tau$

warm shaleBOT
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WhereWolf

inland thicket
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hmmm

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very nice how much

kind hawk
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how much what

inland thicket
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🇮🇱 🤝 🇷🇸

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Someone recently helped me with this problem, but I wanted to ask if this is also a way to solve this: If AE/BD = CA/BA = CE/DE = 31/19 THEN CE must equal 31 and CD must equal 19. Therefore, DE must equal 12. 19/12 is our answer.

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I just wanted to ask if thats a logical way of solving.

prisma pasture
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If AE/BD = CA/BA = CE/DE = 31/19 THEN CE must equal 31 and CD must equal 19
I am not sure about this one

timid silo
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@prisma pasture

prisma pasture
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You don't know CE is 31

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You know it's 31x when x can be any number

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And I am not sure about this one either AE/BD = CA/BA = CE/DE, lemme check that

timid silo
prisma pasture
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Wait

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First it's AE/BD = CA/BA = CE/CD

timid silo
prisma pasture
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<@&268886789983436800>

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<@&268886789983436800>

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No one gives a fuck about your dc server

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Can someone please explain how they got the formula for the longitude!??>!

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Why can't they do the same for $v(\theta)$ then? i.e., $v(\theta)=d\theta$ for some constant $d>0$

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Kalgar

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by design of the map we choose the spacing of u proportional to that on the equator of the sphere

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<tikz>
Write a recurrence relation to represent the amount of ways to make a chessboard of size $2\by n$ with the shapes
[
\hspace{1 cm}
\begin{tikzpicture}[scale=1]
\draw (4,4) -- (5,4) -- (5,5) -- (4,5) -- cycle;
\end{tikzpicture}
]

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timid silo
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unsure on how to do this tbh

kind hawk
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well first, examples

timid silo
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yes so like

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for a_1 you really only have

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<tikz>
\begin{tikzpicture}
\draw (0,0) -- (1,0) -- (1,1) -- (0,1) -- cycle;
\draw (0,1) -- (1,1) -- (1,2) -- (0,2) -- cycle;
\end{tikzpicture}

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timid silo
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so there is only way for that

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for a_2 you can have like

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okay tikzing will be pain

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like

kind hawk
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paint

timid silo
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just pain with a mouse

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ok

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lemme get my drawing tablet

kind hawk
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I mean it doesnt have to be a good drawing

timid silo
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btw this was on mymidterm

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so i am trying to see what i could have done to answer it

kind hawk
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can you rotate the L piece?

timid silo
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yep

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u can

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orientation matters

thin hare
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think about how many ways you can cover up the first col

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the first 2 cols

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and so on

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oh yeah you said that

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looks to me like a_2 should be 4:?

kind hawk
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5

timid silo
thin hare
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are you considering a square made up only of singletons as the 5th case

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hm

timid silo
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a_3 is not finished

thin hare
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id think that would be contained within the a_1 case

timid silo
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there are still more of them i think

thin hare
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so you'd be double counting

kind hawk
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by a_3 now you should be thinking about how you can use 2x1 and 2x2 as starting blocks

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and then extending them

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you want a recurrence

timid silo
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well a_3 seems peculiar tho

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because like

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you can have something like this

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and i have no idea how u can build that from a_1 or a_2

thin hare
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isnt it a 2xn

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how can that happen

timid silo
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oh yeah fair enough my bad

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well seems like we can split it into cases

thin hare
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i feel like a_3 is 2 for some reason

timid silo
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one: it starts with the 2x1 square

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two: it starts with one of the L shapes

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hmm

thin hare
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okay wait hear me out on why a_2 should be 4 instead of 5

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the last case, where the square is formed only from singletons, can be achieved from a_1

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a_1 already accounts for that configuration

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so by considering it in a_2 then adding (which ur gonna do, f(n) = f(n-1) + c * f(n-2) ...)

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ur double counting

kind hawk
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there are still 5 ways to make a 2x2

thin hare
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how?

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without the singleton case

kind hawk
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but that is one of the cases of a 2x2

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it should be included in a_2

thin hare
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its already accounted for in a_1 though

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how would you not be double counting

kind hawk
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whether its included in the recurence relation is a different question

thin hare
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oh

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yeah ig u can do the check after you construct all possible ways

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but thats just painful

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especially for a3

kind hawk
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well a_3 isnt actually asked for

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and not needed

thin hare
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im pretty sure it is...

kind hawk
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just when you try to find a_3 you see how you build it from the other blocks

timid silo
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well on my exam, they did ask for a_1, a_2, a_3 as initial conditions

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i believe

kind hawk
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ah well then its needed

thin hare
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yeah theres no way to build a3 from the other ones

timid silo
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okay brb

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let me draw all of them

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did i miss any?

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that should be 9

thin hare
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whats ur plan now

timid silo
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clueless, as i was in my exam

thin hare
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hmm okay, i'll explain my way which i think is clearer than others

timid silo
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go for it haha

thin hare
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so this is a_1

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notice that after we place the 2 singletons in the first column

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the problem basically repeats

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we need to fill in a 2x(n-1) board now

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so if we define a mysterious magical function f(n) that finds the number of ways to fill a 2xn board

timid silo
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hold up

thin hare
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yea

timid silo
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oh nvm carry on, understood

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okay so we are doing what i was thinking of i guess

kind hawk
timid silo
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oh yeah

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one second

warm shaleBOT
thin hare
timid silo
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so a_1 = 1, a_2 = 5, a_3 = 11

thin hare
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im ngl the way of exhaustively listing out all possible combinations is really painful

timid silo
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agreed

kind hawk
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its good tho. to get a feel for whats going on

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what are the things that keep repeating

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what is the pattern

thin hare
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yeah i think its more confusing imo

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when theres a better way of explaining it

timid silo
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a column of squares

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and

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L + square in the other edge

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and two L's

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so we have to account for all three

kind hawk
thin hare
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anyway if we are gonna go with the exhaustive method

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you cant just use all the numbers as they are given in the recurrence

warm shaleBOT
thin hare
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this is wrong

timid silo
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yeah it probably is

thin hare
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do you see why?

timid silo
timid silo
thin hare
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yeah it is

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do you see why though

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if you do then you can eliminate the extraneous combinations

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and you'll be left with the correct coefficients

timid silo
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well like

viral blade
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i mean it has to end with exactly one of these patterns right

timid silo
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yeah i think instead of looking at what they begin with, lets just look at what they end with because thats more intuitive for me anyways

timid silo
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so like

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it ends with a column of squares: then you have n-1 stuff left to deal with

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so a_n = a_(n-1) +... for now

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next: it ends with one of the L shapes + a square in one of its corners

thin hare
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yep exactly

timid silo
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there would be 4a_(n-2) possibilities then

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so a_n = a_(n-1)+4a_(n-2) + ...

thin hare
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☑️

timid silo
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hmmm

thin hare
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how many ways are there to cover 3 columns without being achievable from a2 or a1

timid silo
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but now it seems like we need to split up that a_(n-1) into cases?

timid silo
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thrice, from the weird triple 0's and the double L's?

thin hare
thin hare
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wait where are you seeing triple 0's

timid silo
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oh wait this is achieveable by a_(n-1)

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never mind

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okay so simply the weird double L's? we havent represented those yet i believe

thin hare
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yep

timid silo
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so

viral blade
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ye if we do that we run into the same overcounting problem from before

timid silo
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2\

thin hare
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bingo

timid silo
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2a_(n-3)

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?

viral blade
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yeah

thin hare
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timid silo
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so overall

viral blade
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we want to split all the possible combinations into separate categories based on how they end

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we dont want the categories to overlap at all and we want every possibility to be in some pattern

timid silo
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[
a_n = a_{n-1}+4a_{n-2}+2a_{n-3}
]

warm shaleBOT
timid silo
thin hare
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yep thats it

viral blade
thin hare
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you need the base cases tho

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just be wary

timid silo
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you are just trying to build off every possible combination from the initial values until you cover anything, and make sure you dont have overlap

thin hare
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otherwise ur recurrence is undetermined

timid silo
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hmm

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may i ask if you guys have/can think of a similar question that is more difficult

thin hare
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yea

timid silo
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it does seem kind of interesting to understand in a better way

thin hare
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i have a really good one

timid silo
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drop it haha

kind hawk
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3xn

thin hare
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you can ignore the implement this in code part

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thats just DP

viral blade
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oh boy

thin hare
timid silo
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what is

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O(n) and O(1) spacec

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also hmmmm

timid silo
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lets see

viral blade
timid silo
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i mean what are the pieces we can use?

viral blade
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The cases dont split anymore

timid silo
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the same set?

timid silo
viral blade
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What category would you put this in

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Assume the bottom is the end

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,rotate

warm shaleBOT
kind hawk
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make it a bigger L piece. then I think it still works

viral blade
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