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strange sapphire
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pls help me with this

cunning sonnet
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I thought I had to place 48 into the first number I can fit it in , I couldn’t fit it in 2 or 26 so I went 265

glossy basalt
cunning sonnet
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Of course yea I think I see what I’ve done

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Well I have one more question , why didn’t I have to move the decimal place back since I moved it 5 time to the right

glossy basalt
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since we are actually doing this:

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,rotate

warm shaleBOT
glossy basalt
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we move the digit on both numerator and denominator

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that's we are actually expanding the fraction

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while expanding the fraction, the value itself won't change

cunning sonnet
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Ahhhhhh because a percentage of a fraction always remains the same no matter how much you multiply the top and the bottom!!

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I seeee

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Hmm so

glossy basalt
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yea?

cunning sonnet
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I will need to move it for multiplication addiction and subtraction

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But not division

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Im just thinking because this if for chemistry there’s lots of decimal places with division multiplication and addition

glossy basalt
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we move the decimal on both dividend and divisor

cunning sonnet
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But I’m saying

glossy basalt
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yea?

cunning sonnet
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When we had the answer we did not move the decimal like I do with subtraction or additiona

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Once we had the answer

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This only applies for division yeah? Since it a fraction?

glossy basalt
cunning sonnet
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I had to move the decimal back on this one

glossy basalt
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like this?

cunning sonnet
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Well I didn’t actually do that I moved them all the way over

glossy basalt
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oh lol

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i guess that's a way too

cunning sonnet
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And then solved

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And moved them back

glossy basalt
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i see

cunning sonnet
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That’s why I was confused When I tried with division

glossy basalt
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if that's the case, ya, you'll have to move for +,- ,×

cunning sonnet
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Yep awesome !

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Well thanks again for saving the day biscuity

glossy basalt
cunning sonnet
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Gods speed.

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timid silo
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Hey, Isn't this wrong?

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timid silo
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Because integration by parts formula is like this:

pseudo swift
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What is your problem specifically with that ?

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@timid silo

timid silo
pseudo swift
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I mean the formula you posted is for indefinite integrals

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For definite integrals, you have to evaluate the uv yes

timid silo
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I see. If possible then would you please share a formula for it?

pseudo swift
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I'm on my phone right now so it's gonna be a bit difficult

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But that's the only change pretty much

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$$\int_a^b u\dd{v} = [uv]_a^b - \int_a^b v\dd{u}$$

warm shaleBOT
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_aplatypus

pseudo swift
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If you integrate (uv)' between a and b, you get [uv]_a^b

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That's why it's there

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@timid silo

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slender sundial
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how did they jump from the first step to the next?

slender sundial
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like why 17 * 17 divisors

ashen dove
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It's a formula

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The number of factors is product of the factors+1

robust sleet
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<@&268886789983436800>

slender sundial
ashen dove
slender sundial
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thanks dude, i tried looking for a derivation but couldnt find it, do you know how to prove it?

candid yarrow
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Consider all the possible factors

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the exponents of the primes must be smaller than or equal to those of the whole number

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so the amount of possible combinations is this

ashen dove
slender sundial
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ohhhhhh ok

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makes sense

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fair notch
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how does the sin(pi y/ 2) become 1 when substituting?

ashen dove
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sin (π/2) is 1 only

fair notch
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it gives 0.027 on my calculator?

lusty olive
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Do you have it set to radians?

fair notch
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no degrees

lusty olive
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Theres your problem

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The problem has it written in radians

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Rule of thumb, if you see pi in trigonometry its almost always radians

fair notch
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oh i see

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lucid flame
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How to prove LHS = RHS?

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severe reef
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try expressing each ratio in terms of sin and cos

lucid flame
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Then

severe reef
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are you done with that?

lucid flame
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Yep

severe reef
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at what expression did u arrive

lucid flame
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Sin A / 1-cos A - 1/sin A

errant lark
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There's an easier way to do it:

Hint: Use cosec^2 A - cot^2 A = 1

lucid flame
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I did this way

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What can I do next

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🤔

errant lark
lucid flame
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Then

errant lark
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Can you expand 1-cos^2 A somehow ?

lucid flame
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Yeah

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Difference between 2 squares

errant lark
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Good

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Do that.

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Then see if you can take something out as common in denominator.

lucid flame
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?

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Is there anybody

errant lark
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Okay. Yes

errant lark
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Cancel out the terms. See what you get.

lucid flame
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I get {(1+cos A) - 1}/sin A

errant lark
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1 + cosA -1 is how much ? 😐

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Shouldn't something get cancelled there ?

lucid flame
errant lark
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No.

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Can you write -1 before cosA ?

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Like (1 -1 + cosA)

lucid flame
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Yes

errant lark
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Can you see what is that basically ?

lucid flame
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1 - 1 closes

errant lark
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1 -1 is zero. Right ?

lucid flame
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Yes

errant lark
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So, you only have cosx in the numerator.

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So what do you get ?

errant lark
lucid flame
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What

errant lark
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Wait...

lucid flame
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You mean cos A/sin A

errant lark
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You had:
$\frac {\left(( 1+\cos A) - 1 \right)}{\sin A}$

errant lark
lucid flame
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Then

errant lark
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What the hell is this ?

lucid flame
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Where is the answer

warm shaleBOT
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.enemagneto

lucid flame
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Yeah

errant lark
lucid flame
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cot A

errant lark
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Yes.

lucid flame
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But there is no answer at RHS

errant lark
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Now, solve RHS and it'll come to be equal to cotA.

lucid flame
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Can solve RHS too?

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I thought I only can solve LHS

errant lark
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If you show that LHS is cotA and that RHS is cotA.

lucid flame
errant lark
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You are done.

lucid flame
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Yeah I think I would be able to do it

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I see these + and - marks only chnaged in both sides

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Is this a way to identify that those are same?

errant lark
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Not exactly. However, with more practise you'll come to see how those expressions are related.

lucid flame
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Hum i see

errant lark
lucid flame
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Thank you

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radiant frigate
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How exactly did we take 1/2 of the square root? Please explain.

royal basin
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$\frac{x_1+x_2}{2} - x_1 = \frac{x_1+x_2-2x_1}{2} = \frac{x_2 - x_1}{2}$ and likewise for $y_i$ and $z_i$

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royal basin
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then you have $\paren{ \frac{x_2-x_1}{2} }^2 = \frac{(x_2-x_1)^2}{4}$ and when you pull out the common factor $\frac{1}{4}$ outside the root it becomes $\frac{1}{2}$ again

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pseudo prism
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ok so if i do 3/4 *8, i just multiply 8 and 4 right, the put it under 3. right?

royal basin
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no

pseudo prism
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oh

royal basin
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that'd be if you were dividing 3/4 by 8, or multiplying 3/4 by 1/8.

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$\frac{3}{4} \cdot 8 = \frac{3 \cdot 8}{4}$ perhaps.

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timid silo
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Potentially lacking parentheses

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Did you mean 3/(4*8) @pseudo prism

pseudo prism
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wait but i thought if u wanted to get rid of the bottom number you just multiply the fraction by it

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i mean this

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D on question 1

royal basin
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yeah sure

pseudo prism
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ik its the right answer but unsure why

royal basin
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$-\frac{3}{4} \cdot 8 = -\frac{3 \cdot 8}{4} = -3 \cdot 2$

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royal basin
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does this explain it for you?

pseudo prism
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yeah but if it was a 4 instead of an 8

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it would just be reduced to -3

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right?

pseudo prism
royal basin
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sure, -3*4/4 would be -3 yes

pseudo prism
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im so confused. but why

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wait not devided by four

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times four

royal basin
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why what

pseudo prism
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ok how does -3/4 *4= -3

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like are you multiplying -3*3?

royal basin
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i am not multiplying -3 by 3

pseudo prism
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sorry wait

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im so lost

pseudo prism
royal basin
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do you agree that multiplying by a number and dividing by the same number takes you back where you started?

pseudo prism
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sure yeah bc they're opposites of each other

royal basin
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yeah well

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-3/4 * 4

pseudo prism
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ooohhh

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i see

royal basin
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you start with -3, divide by 4, then multiply by 4

pseudo prism
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got it

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but

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doesnt that mean you multiyplayed 4 by the bottom 4

royal basin
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... ???

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no?

pseudo prism
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yk what. maybe its a better idea for me to just turn it to a decimle

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nvm that wouldnt really work in a graph

royal basin
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you may want to review fractions

pseudo prism
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that's the only bit im confused abt

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oh wait nvm

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you're multiplying it by the top and then deviding it

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that makes sense

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because a whole number is just it over 1

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so it would be like 3/4 * 4/1

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which would equal 12/4

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which is 4

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is that right @royal basin

royal basin
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12/4 isn't 4

pseudo prism
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fuck

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then what is the logic behind it

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are you not doing 3*4?

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it was something else but it's gotten down to this

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3/4*4= 3

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but im not sure why exactly

royal basin
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12/4 is 3 lol

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you fucked up your arithmetic

pseudo prism
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like where does the 4 plug in. shouldnt it have to be 3*4?

royal basin
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idk what else to say like

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we could go around in circles all day

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it feels like we are going in circles here rn

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there's no obligatory course of action with fractions like this

pseudo prism
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what's the circle

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yeah?

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and 8*3 is 24

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24/4 is 6

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therefore thats the answer

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yeah. so why does the mulitply by the top

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but the 4 doesnt

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if i did it times 4

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instead of 8

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why wouldnt it be 4*3 which is 12

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and 12/3 is 4

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wait no

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right

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biut

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but*

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3/4 *4 is 4

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not 3

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do you get my question here or no

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it is?

warm shaleBOT
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.general_jacob

pseudo prism
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ooohhhh that's right

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multyplying by the bottom number gets you just the top number

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my b

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i think i get it now

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in school all they said is multiyply by the bottom number if you wanna get just the top number

hidden compass
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What is 3/4 * 20? @pseudo prism

pseudo prism
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it would by 3*20

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which is 60

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and 60/4 is 15

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so 15?

hidden compass
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Perfect

pseudo prism
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got it. thanks guys! 😄

hidden compass
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I think you got it 👍

pseudo prism
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appricate it ❤️

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quaint sierra
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quaint sierra
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i thought -90

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will be answer since it is the smallest tens

thick oracle
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-90 isnt a digit

obtuse pebbleBOT
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@quaint sierra Has your question been resolved?

quaint sierra
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how

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<@&286206848099549185>

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What

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The answer is 001

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Sir

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@royal basin Help us

thick oracle
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do you know what a digit is

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you could try something like

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10^2018 <= 7S < 10^2019

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find lower and upper bounds

quaint sierra
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Whattttt

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Whyyyy

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Where did you come from

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How are you getting such conculsions

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1 is unit

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10^2018 <= 7S < 10^2019

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How does this make sense

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001

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Yes

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So how did you get it is the question

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1

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Sir

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After some enlightenment

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i have learnt that you were right

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now show me your ways

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so i can stop talking

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oh great one

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How did youget 1

thick oracle
quaint sierra
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Now what

quaint sierra
thick oracle
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mb

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it should be

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10^2019 <= 7S < 10^2020

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cuz we know 7S has at least 2019 digits

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and less tham 2020 digits

quaint sierra
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So ans is 000

thick oracle
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?

quaint sierra
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You said it

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I am wondering

thick oracle
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?

quaint sierra
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0 is divisible by 7

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so why is this wrong

thick oracle
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7 is also divisible by 7

quaint sierra
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Yes but 0 is smaller

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and leads to smaller number

thick oracle
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we know S is divisible by 7, not the tens digit

quaint sierra
thick oracle
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yeah ur right

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general

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10^2019 <= 7S < 10^2020

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just solve this

quaint sierra
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so 10

thick oracle
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10 what

quaint sierra
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10.00

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is ans

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10^2019 <= 7S < 10^2020

thick oracle
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no

quaint sierra
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How can is solve this

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art

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10^2019 <= 7S < 10^2020

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Why are there so many <<<<<<

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and =

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Are they to be solve simultaneously

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???

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<@&286206848099549185>

thick oracle
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.

hard igloo
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7S has 2019 digits

mild swift
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0 is divisible by every natural number

hard igloo
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So 7S must ve smaller than 10^2019 since that has 2020 digits

quaint sierra
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Ok please lets get to the point

hard igloo
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Ok

thick oracle
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10^2018<= 7S < 10^2019

hard igloo
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What is the smallest number that has 2019 digits

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1 and after 2018 zeros correct?

quaint sierra
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-999999999999999999999......

thick oracle
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he keeps trolling

quaint sierra
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That is not a troll

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this is what i thought of

hard igloo
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Wait your right

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It was not said its positive

quaint sierra
thick oracle
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firstly -90 isnt a digit

quaint sierra
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but it is something

thick oracle
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what is it

hard igloo
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So divide -9999999... by 7

quaint sierra
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that is what i do not knwo how to do

thick oracle
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even if 7s is negtive

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the result is the same

quaint sierra
thick oracle
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it will be the same result

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but negative

quaint sierra
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I do not have smarts in this area

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i am simply trying to understand the question

slim cove
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I'm not sure there's any trolling going on

quaint sierra
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Please in layman's terms what is the solution

thick oracle
slim cove
hard igloo
quaint sierra
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how is answer 001

hard igloo
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No

quaint sierra
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-1

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online

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american book

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questins

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Why you divide

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no s is

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-999999999999......

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Why no

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demonstrate please

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001

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no

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so 7S = -999999...9999999 --2019 digits

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explain

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the --

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shouldn't s be -999999999999--2018

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so s has 2018

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help

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7*7

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49

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Im assuming

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wait please

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The smallest s is -999999999...

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why is so 7S = -999999...9999999 --2019 digits

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correct

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why

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it did not say that 7s has to be the smallest

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it said s has to be

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hold

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why 7s equals to so 7S = -999999...9999999

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Why is it smaller

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Why is 7s smaller

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no

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wait

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so ans has to be negative

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because c is smal number

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that means c cannot be -11

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because 9*-11 is -99

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-99 are not digits

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9C = -891
This is impossible if the two digits must be made

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so what is ans

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<@&286206848099549185>

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for example

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yesl

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C must be the smallest integer such that 9C has 2 digits
how would you solve this

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how would you find 10 digit

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why you equate 9c to -99

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ues

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yes

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meaning c is -99

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why

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so 7s must be equal to 2019

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digits

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but must be teh smallest

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only way to change that is through variable s

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so 7s =-999999999999.....

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what then

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then

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but tens place is needed

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how

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but we are not solving that

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we are dealing with infinite nines

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explian patter thing

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yr12

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Year 12 highschool

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grade 12

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I am not in middle schol

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i know integration by parts

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calculus

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circular fucntions

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proof

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That because my teacher said i should sove questions on my own

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and when i need help meet use discord

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beacuse he is busy

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Please explain

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Why

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This is not normal math

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Olympiad math

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I am new to it

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Please help i really have no other option

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tHIS

warm shaleBOT
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.general_jacob

quaint sierra
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Ok

warm shaleBOT
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.general_jacob

quaint sierra
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What does this mean

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Can you solve this without calculatore

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how

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yes

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so why is ans 1

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ok

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ty

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obsidian wren
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i need help in creating two different two columnb proofs for two different questions

obsidian wren
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<@&286206848099549185>

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@obsidian wren Has your question been resolved?

obsidian wren
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anyone?

untold trail
obsidian wren
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what question?

crisp fiber
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Q2: <|Q = <|R , <|Q = PQ and <|R= PR => PQ = PR

Q1: well DC is tangent => AD perpendicular on DC => <| D = 90 also B = 90 degrees as AD is the diameter now we have B = D also A = A and there you have it

ABD ~ ADC

Not sure If I did it correctly. If you don't understand smth just tell me I'll clarify

obsidian wren
crisp fiber
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Okay!

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tho it should be good from what I have learnt in 6th grade( im not 6th grade)

crisp fiber
obsidian wren
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ok mb had to do something ill look at it now

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@crisp fiber Q2 is wrong

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its arc pq and pr

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not line

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that we have to find

crisp fiber
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yes

obsidian wren
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and its in 2 column proof format

crisp fiber
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It shoudl be correct

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they are equal

obsidian wren
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ok but what theorems have you used?

crisp fiber
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its bcs if u take it like that

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No theoremes

obsidian wren
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and postulates

crisp fiber
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just simple math

obsidian wren
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bro but i need help in making a two column proof

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which requires a statement like you have provide and a reason for each

crisp fiber
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Q = PR * 2
R = PQ *2

crisp fiber
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uh Ill try to research that rn

obsidian wren
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ok thanks

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so you understand what it is @crisp fiber ?

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<@&286206848099549185>

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anyonme

crisp fiber
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Tbh I don't rlly know anymore

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I can't help srry!

obsidian wren
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oof

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ok

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<@&286206848099549185>

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anyone anyone

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@crisp fiber you there?

untold trail
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lemme see

obsidian wren
untold trail
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ok so first

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do uk what a 2 column proof is

obsidian wren
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yes yes

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Q2: <|Q = <|R , <|Q = PQ and <|R= PR => PQ = PR

Q1: well DC is tangent => AD perpendicular on DC => <| D = 90 also B = 90 degrees as AD is the diameter now we have B = D also A = A and there you have it

ABD ~ ADC

Not sure If I did it correctly. If you don't understand smth just tell me I'll clarify. This is waht the other person rule rote

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wrote*

obsidian wren
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Q1: well DC is tangent => AD perpendicular on DC => <| D = 90 also B = 90 degrees as AD is the diameter now we have B = D also A = A and there you have it

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ok wait a moment

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alright

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so first we always put our given right

obsidian wren
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ye

untold trail
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so wahts our first statement and reason

obsidian wren
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ok its gonna be

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AD¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
is a diameter of circle O
and DC¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
is tangent to circle O
at D

untold trail
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alr wait let me just create a table

obsidian wren
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ok

obsidian wren
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statement

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reasonn is given

untold trail
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yup

obsidian wren
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ok now what

untold trail
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did you understand the proof that @crisp fiber gave

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he said "Q1: well DC is tangent => AD perpendicular on DC => <| D = 90 also B = 90 degrees as AD is the diameter now we have B = D also A = A and there you have it"

obsidian wren
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yes i do understand it

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just the reasons is the problem for me top match with the statements

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you there?

untold trail
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yes give me one moment

obsidian wren
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ok sure

untold trail
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what would be teh statement for teh second step

obsidian wren
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Ad is perpendicular to DC

untold trail
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we have to first define that DC is tangent to AD

obsidian wren
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ok

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so two different steps?

untold trail
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yes

obsidian wren
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is there a symbol for tangent?

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or straightup DC is tanget to AD

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??

untold trail
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wait a moemnt, do u have a theorem sheet with u?

obsidian wren
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yes actually

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a pdf

untold trail
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can u send that to me if u dont mind

obsidian wren
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ok actually i think u can just say

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DC is perpendicular to AD

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sorry thats my bad

obsidian wren
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ok all good

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i should state incase though i think

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dont ou think? whats there to lose out of it

untold trail
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and then teh reason would be tangent line to circle theorem

untold trail
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and u cant be tangent to a line

obsidian wren
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oh yea

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should i say its tangent to circle in case?

untold trail
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it already says taht in the given

obsidian wren
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oh yea ok

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ok lemme write down next step

untold trail
obsidian wren
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ok next step time

untold trail
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alright what do u think the next statement is

obsidian wren
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<D=90

untold trail
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i think

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at least when i did these last year

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my teacher required me to say like (because definition of perpendicular lines does not say the angles are 90 degrees, but rather taht the angles are right angles)

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<D is a right angle

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and then m<D is 90 degrees

obsidian wren
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ok

untold trail
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so we can first say

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<D is a right angle

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and whats the reason

obsidian wren
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ummmm thats what i was thinking

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defintion of perpendicular lines?

untold trail
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yes

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the reason that we put <D is a right angle instead of m<D = 90 degrees

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is because the definition of perpendicular lines states that they intersect each other at right angles not 90 degrees

obsidian wren
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ok

untold trail
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and then now we can say m<D = 90

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and whats the reason behind that

obsidian wren
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that i dont know

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right angle=90

untold trail
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whats the definition of a right angle

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yeah

obsidian wren
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defintion of right angle angles?

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i was gonna say that

untold trail
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yes ^

obsidian wren
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ok

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lemme write that now

untold trail
obsidian wren
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then m<B=90?

untold trail
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first

  1. which angle B
  2. right angle or 90 degrees
obsidian wren
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right angle

untold trail
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right

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and which angle B

obsidian wren
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ok ima write the next two

untold trail
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wait

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which angle B

obsidian wren
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?????

untold trail
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<ABD or <DBC

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there are two angles corresponding to angle B

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you can't just say angle B

obsidian wren
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DBC?

untold trail
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also my bad i forgot to point it out you have to say <ADC because <D also corresponds to two angles 😅

obsidian wren
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i think or wait

untold trail
obsidian wren
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mb

untold trail
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so when we name angles

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we can use the similarity statement as reference

obsidian wren
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ok

untold trail
obsidian wren
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so is b angle DBA?

untold trail
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yes, but i would write it as ABD

obsidian wren
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ok

untold trail
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so angle ABD is a right angle

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and whats the reason

obsidian wren
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def of perpendicular lines

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then measure is =equal to 90 which is defintion of right angles

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then felexive property of congruent <a=<a

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reflexive*

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and aa similairty theorem

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damn

untold trail
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wait no

obsidian wren
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what what

untold trail
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the reason is wrong

obsidian wren
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for>?

untold trail
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when <ABD is a right angle

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you use this theorem's converse

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and then u can use definition of right angle

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and then AA

obsidian wren
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ok

untold trail
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can u weite out the proof

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and send it to me

obsidian wren
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why?

untold trail
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ill recheck it

obsidian wren
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ok

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just one more proof after this and im done hopefully

untold trail
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yup 😅

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sorry i cant help rn 😭 i have a class

obsidian wren
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please please

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it will be quick

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i n eed this i beg

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we can go overn rn

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it shouldnt take long

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it looks simple

untold trail
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okay

obsidian wren
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THANK YOU

untold trail
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whats ur general idea od how to prove it

obsidian wren
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ok PR is equal to q

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and pq is equal to r

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to begin with right?

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what theorem is that?

untold trail
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PR is equal to Q?

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what is Q

obsidian wren
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no shoot

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q and r are congruent

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so sides pr and pq are congruent

untold trail
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yes

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and then

obsidian wren
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idk where to go from there

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thats where my brain stops

untold trail
obsidian wren
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so done

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thats it right?

untold trail
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yes tahts the general idea

obsidian wren
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ok then i write that step

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and done

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that was quick

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thanks a lot

untold trail
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yup np

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sorry i explain things weirdly sometimes lmao

obsidian wren
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nah not at all

untold trail
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gl on the rest of ur geo problems

obsidian wren
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you were a great help

untold trail
obsidian wren
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thanks

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have a good day

obsidian wren
untold trail
untold trail
obsidian wren
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i said man mistakenly

untold trail
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theres nothing to be sorry about

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HAHA NO WORRIES

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i dont really mind

obsidian wren
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ok cya!

untold trail
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cya

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Just gonna send this here because I don’t know what else do and I have no idea how algebra works 😓

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,rcct

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,rotate

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? @edgy valley did i do something wrong

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No

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It means I don't know

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oh

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this orange angle is adjacent to the blue angle because they share common vertex A and common side AJ

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Question 3 is therefore yes right?

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4 is no

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yup

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5 is yes

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@timid silo do u understand

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i think color coding really helps with geometry and algebra

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hello

obtuse pebbleBOT
gray pulsar
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i need help

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im loading smth rq

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So

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the equation 6^2+8^2 = 10^2 is true right?

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but this equation DOES NOT follow the algebraic rules

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because this is is similiar to a^2*b^2 = (ab)^2

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but its adding

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even though the equation is true, it does not follow the algebraic rules because this equation is the Pythagoream Theorm that makes the right triangle 6,8,10

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am i right?

nocturne minnow
gray pulsar
nocturne minnow
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It being similar does not mean it's the same

gray pulsar
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yeah

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its not the same

nocturne minnow
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You can't apply a^2*b^2 = (ab)^2 to addition

gray pulsar
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Yes

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and the equation is asking me if the equation 6^2+8^2 = 10^2 is true

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and if so how does it follow the algebraic rules IF IT FOLLOWS IT

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so its basically a trick question

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and it is true

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but does not follow one of the algebraic rules

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but instead its a pythagoream theorm equation

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that makes the right triangle 6,8,10

nocturne minnow
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As asked, what are the algebraic rules you are referring to?

gray pulsar
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actually no or

nocturne minnow
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What are the other rules that are algebraic rules

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I don't know what you mean by algebraic rules

gray pulsar
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omg

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such as

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a*b = a(b)

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or

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a^a / a^b = (a^b-a)

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those??

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but what im saying is if my explaination is correct

nocturne minnow
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Your definition of algebraic rules makes no sense, because a*b = a(b) is just a property of multiplication. a^a / a^b = (a^b-a) is a property of exponents

gray pulsar
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but the question is asking

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IF it follows that algebraic equations or it means RULES

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algebraic rules

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there

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but the equation thats shown in the equation

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does not follow any of the rules

nocturne minnow
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And as I am asking, what are the algebraic rules you are referring to? Do you have a list from a book or your teacher?

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The meaning of algebraic rules is too generic to understand what you mean

gray pulsar
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the basic ones..

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the ones that you started learning from pre-alg or alg 1

quasi glen
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I think he talks about the multi platoon ones

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Multiplication

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Formulas

nocturne minnow
quasi glen
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Like (a+b)^2 and so on

gray pulsar
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but the main point of the equation

nocturne minnow
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I could literally say a + a = 2a as an algebraic rule

gray pulsar
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i didn't came up in my head

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but

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the point is

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and if so how does it follow the algebraic rules IF IT FOLLOWS IT
so its basically a trick question
and it is true
but does not follow one of the algebraic rules
but instead its a pythagoream theorm equation
that makes the right triangle 6,8,10

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thats my explaination

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And it says IF

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it follows it

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but no it doesn't

nocturne minnow
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Your definition is broad, I don't know what you mean by algebraic rule.

gray pulsar
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;-;

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but generally if you know the topic

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is it still correct?

nocturne minnow
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It helps to know what rules you are referring to

nocturne minnow
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Because you mentioned a^2*b^2 = (ab)^2 , that question doesn't follow that

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But what other rules are there?

gray pulsar
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HAVE YOU SEEN the equation a^2+b^2 = (a+b)^2 WORK?

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CUZ 6^2 + 8^2 = (6+8)^2 DOES NOT MAKE 10^2

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SO THE EQUATION IS CORRECT

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but the ALGEBRAIC rules DOESNT FOLLOW in that equation, a^2*b^2 = (ab)^2

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yk what

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i'll solve it bymyself

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timid silo
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find the coefficient of x^2 in the expansion of (3+2x+x^2)(2-1/x)^4

how do i do a binomial expansion when one of the terms is a fraction? also, is there a shortcut to finding the coefficient of a specific term without having to expand and multiply by the other polynomial

desert sinew
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Hint: Find the general term of the binomial first.

high lily
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binomial expansion is the same

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(a+b)^n = ...
doesn't matter if a,b are fractions

timid silo
high lily
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= 3(2-1/x)^4 + 2x(2-1/x)^4 + 3x^2(2-1/x)^4
consider 3* what type of term,
gives an x^2 term
identify that term in the expansion of (2-1/x)^4 from binomial theorem

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repeat for the 2x and x^2

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also did you copy down the question correctly?

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as it's a bit strange to be set up like this

timid silo
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ok so when i expand the terms i get many constants/x^n and when they are multiplied with the terms of (3+2x+x^2) i no longer have a fraction and get a term with x^2?

timid silo
high lily
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do you have a pic of the original problem

timid silo
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yeah

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give me a sec

high lily
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don't expand (2 -1/x)^4 directly,
identify the specific terms needed considering what I typed above
and obtain those from binomial theorem

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yeh, the question is a bit off. there's probably a typo somewhere.

timid silo
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via 4C2, 4C1, 4C0?

timid silo
high lily
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you'll see following what I said

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consider
3 * what type of term gives an x^2 term?

timid silo
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x^2

high lily
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and is there an x^2 term in (2-1/x)^4

timid silo
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ok thanks, ill try

high lily
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typo

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again, don't expand

timid silo
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just extract the terms using ncr?

high lily
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if that's what you were thinking

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you should be able to identify whether this will actually have an x^2 term or not without having to do anything extraordinary

timid silo
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actually that's where i got stuck, because i didnt know how to extract an x^2 term out of 3 * 4C2 * (1/x)^2

high lily
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overthinking

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3 * 4C2 * (1/x)^2
isn't an x^2 term

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is there any x^2 term in expansion of
(2 - 1/x)^4

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do the full expansion if you feel the need for it

timid silo
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is it just a trick question

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16x^2 from the last term

high lily
high lily
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if this question only has one part then

timid silo
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yeah i think it was probably just taken out of context of a larger problem

high lily
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they probably intended
(2x - 1/x)^4

timid silo
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i see

timid silo
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how do i account for this?

high lily
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same principle

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= x(x+y)^6 - y(x+y)^6
consider x * what type of term gives an x^2y^5 term

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identify that term in the expansion of (x+y)^6 from binomial theorem

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repeat for the y

timid silo
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ok thanks

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i'd like to see the thought process and methodology in solving this problem. can someone provide a step by step to explain their intuition when solving these problems?

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i want to know how you can find r which gives a term in x^0 in a question like this

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high lily
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again same idea

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its pretty much always the same idea

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consider x^2 * what type of term gives a constant

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and extract that term from the expansion

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can someone please show me what did I do wrong here?

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answer is supposed to be -104/3

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@tidal mulch actually it should be |[(Y/2+9)^3/2]/(3/2)|0 to -16

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@fair rapids hi! are you able to write the working on paper?

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ill try one sec

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@tidal mulch sry i didnt get

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tch it's upside down

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ignore that in the upper left it's not relevant to this

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then the continued ver

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@stark geyser hi! please show me your working when you're available, thank you!

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differentiated the expression, brought it down-- that was what I was taught

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Ummm

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You can just use usub

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@tidal mulch

tidal mulch
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oogh i wish but idk it well enough to apply it

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i mean i have no idea what you did, and usub is 100% easier

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just u-sub y/2 +9 and you'll how see how easy it will become

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I was proving something, but I ended up proving every trapezium a parallelogram, I cant find out what I did wrong

tranquil sonnet
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COB is not similar to AOD

shell parrot
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I was thinking to prove this trapezium a rhombus first

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trapezium is not a rhombus

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you know

shell parrot
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dense stirrup
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Please send a clear image of properly labelled construction

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cuz i don't see any m in ur figure

tranquil sonnet
shell parrot
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I am struggling to understand

tranquil sonnet
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They don’t have 2 sides that are congruent unless the trapezoid is isosceles

shell parrot
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but the ratios of the other two sides are equal and the angle between them is equal

dense stirrup
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wait

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I see what yiu are saying

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Lemme see

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ohk

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I got it

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gonna go jump off a cliff now

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Oh it’s because the ratios aren’t the same

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thanks

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how do I close I forgot

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e i cantttt

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someone please just HELP

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this question alone has been halting my progress. I CANT FIGURE IT OUT MAN

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Hey, the area under the v-t graph (the one that you have shown) equates to the displacement.

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if we are considering the displacement at t = 0, to be 0. Then we just need to find t for which area under the graph from 0 to t is 0.