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sleek breach
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brisk matrix
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!status

obtuse pebbleBOT
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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
6. None of the above
sleek breach
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brisk matrix
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do you know what symmetric and anti symmetric relations are?

sleek breach
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i actually have an answer, could u tell me if its right or wrong and if its wrong, kindly provide the right answer please

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i think option A is correct

brisk matrix
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can you justify it for me

sleek breach
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If we have a set A defined as A = {1, 2, 3}, it means that A is a collection or grouping of distinct elements or objects, specifically the elements 1, 2, and 3.

In this case, A is a set containing three elements: 1, 2, and 3. The order of the elements within a set does not matter, and each element in a set is unique. So, the set A = {1, 2, 3} indicates that it contains the elements 1, 2, and 3, and no other elements.

brisk matrix
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that looks like it came straight from chatgpt

sleek breach
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kinda did

brisk matrix
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id suggest you don’t rely on it for math

sleek breach
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im not, frankly, i intend to rely on you maximo

brisk matrix
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then do me a favor and give me explanations using your own words

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because otherwise i can’t tailor my explanations to your understanding

sleek breach
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well, is it acceptable to you if you just provide me the answer to the question?

brisk matrix
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so let’s go from the top
was the answer you gave me yours or from chatgpt?

obtuse pebbleBOT
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As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.

sleek breach
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very well

brisk matrix
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i’ll let someone else help you out, i think there is a disconnect between us

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feel free to repost your question

sleek breach
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aw man, let me be honest with you

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i have this discrete math course, and im way behind, idk anything about relations but i have an ongoing test right now

fathom flicker
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I too rely on maximo. Good strategy

sleek breach
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i have done every other question except the ones with relations

fathom flicker
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we can't help with tests

sleek breach
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cmon

brisk matrix
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sad turn to an otherwise very simple question

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just do your best to prepare more for the next exam

sleek breach
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ditch that question

brisk matrix
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we won’t help with any other questions

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we cant help with tests and now every question you send will be suspect

sleek breach
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now ik (Z,+) is a subgroup of (C,+) , (Q,+)

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feral vigil
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how can i prove that the angle is 45 degrees?

obtuse pebbleBOT
feral vigil
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i know that it’s 45 degrees but i need to show why with calculations

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and idk how to do that

rich plume
feral vigil
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you mean splitting the shape into a square and a triangle?

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i thought about that but idk what to do after that

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5cm

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yes

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shit what does that mean

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isoceles

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ahh

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its not even close to that in my language

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but i know the translation now

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then what?

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i think i know this but forgot how to calculate it

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yeah

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right

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now i understand

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i remember now

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thankyou

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i have another one

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i need to prove that the triangle is what it says there

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this one looks really hard but maybe it isn’t

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i keep forgetting it

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isn’t it one side to the power of 2 plus the other side to the power of 2 and then you get the length of the 3rd side?

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or am i lost?

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wait

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which side should i calculate?

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the ”x” side?

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ok and then how do i prove this?

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no sorry

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how do i prove what it says above?

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but i am supposed to prove what it says above

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3+2 to the power of 3 cm2

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okay so i expand?

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x•x + (x+2) (x+2) = (x+x) (x+x) ???

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is that what you mean?

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oh

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well damn idfk

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can you explain to me?

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x to the power of 2 + 4x + 4?

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and then?

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yeah idk

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its just 2x to the power of 2?

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as said before?

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what

grizzled wave
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so (2X) (2X)

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have like terms

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2 and X

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multiply them

feral vigil
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2x?

grizzled wave
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so take lets say

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(2x3)(2x3)

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wait

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how would you do this

feral vigil
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6x6

grizzled wave
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yes

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so 2x multiplied by 2x

feral vigil
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but it isn’t 4x

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it’s 2x(2)

grizzled wave
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it would be 4x^2

feral vigil
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what

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how

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wait nvm

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i get it

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it was just the same thing

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holy f*ck im stupid

grizzled wave
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nah it takes some time dw

feral vigil
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but im still lost

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i did all of this because?

grizzled wave
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are you aware of the index principles

feral vigil
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so x^2 + 4x + 4 = 4x^2?

feral vigil
grizzled wave
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wait ill send a picture

feral vigil
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which one?

grizzled wave
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my b

feral vigil
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i dont get it

grizzled wave
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would it not help?

feral vigil
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can you write the equation for me?

feral vigil
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and now?

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is the parenthesis necessary?

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so x^2+x^2+4x+4-4x^2=0?

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why did i choose math

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i had math 1b which you have to do but i chose math 2b this year and it was really dumb because i suck at math

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i used to be so good

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but everyone gets better progressively as it gets harder

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i didn’t change

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but everyone else seems to understand

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i relied too much on natural talent

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i was good at almost everything as a kid so i didn’t find anything hard which means i didn’t learn shit. now im not used to actually making an effort which makes it so much harder

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im kind of pissed the teachers didn’t challenge me more

feral vigil
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feral vigil
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sorry i had to go

obtuse pebbleBOT
feral vigil
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thankyou for everything though

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it was nice of you

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i have a test in like 10 mins

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wish me luck

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potent cairn
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Can someone please help me

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hearty island
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i need some help with proving trig identities

hearty island
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i cant see the next step

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but ive been told im super close

timid silo
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from this step, factor the denominator

hearty island
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oh

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because it's a difference of two squares

timid silo
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yup

hearty island
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that's brilliant thank you

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I have another problem that im stumped on

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im thinking of this identity

timid silo
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its probably easier to start from the rhs for this one

hearty island
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okay let me try that

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oh

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the numerator is one

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and the denominator is cos 2x

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omg!!

timid silo
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yup, thats correct :D

hearty island
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omg omg omg

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thank you

timid silo
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np!

hearty island
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okay this made my night thanks!

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terse rapids
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need to find DH/HC, been trying to do it forever

knotty gulch
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original q?

terse rapids
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cos DCE = 2/7

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ALE and DEC are isosceles triangles

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that's all

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oh and CL is the bisector of DCE

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i was trying to work with angles to find right triangles

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heady galleon
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somone help solve this hard math

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timid silo
heady galleon
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180- x-180-3x=180-x-180-3x=4x

royal basin
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180-x-180-3x=4x ?

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this is a linear equation.

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do you know how to solve linear equations?

heady galleon
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yes

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but my brain cells is to slow

royal basin
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then what is troubling you with this one?

heady galleon
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wait

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oh thanks my man i know how now

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thank you

royal basin
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not a man, but you're welcome.

heady galleon
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thanks

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fallen wadi
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how is 6/x^2 = 6x^-2

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native inlet
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XxMrFancyu2xX

fallen wadi
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ok I think I get it. thanks

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opaque galleon
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For every point P(a, b, c), there corrresponds a vector whose position representation has
terminal point at P; that is, the vector ⟨a, b, c⟩. Thus, there is a one-to-one correspondence
between the set of vectors and the set of points in R3

Can someone explain to me what this is saying, I can't understand it

opaque galleon
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🙏

royal basin
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do you understand what a point is and what a vector is

opaque galleon
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yeah

royal basin
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the paragraph says there is a one to one correspondence between those

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do you understand what that means

opaque galleon
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is it like

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$P(1,2,3)
\ \vec{v} = \left\langle 1,2,3 \right\rangle$

royal basin
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notation is a bit bad

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but yes sure

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\langle and \rangle, or \left< and \right>

warm shaleBOT
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steamhahasteamhaha

opaque galleon
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but what is a terminal point?

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I don't understand

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what is that

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is it like endpoint

royal basin
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strange how you ask only about "terminal point" and not about "initial point" as well

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starting point and ending point

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you know the visualization of vectors as arrows right

opaque galleon
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yeah

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from physics

opaque galleon
royal basin
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no

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it does not say anything of this sort

opaque galleon
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oh okay

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nvm

opaque galleon
# royal basin it does not say anything of this sort

If one component of a vector is zero, the vector lies on a coordinate plane. In particular, if
the third component is zero, the vector is on the xy-plane and we simply write ⟨a, b⟩.

what if 1st component is zero or 2nd component is 0

royal basin
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nothing

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but also this is kind of an abuse of notation you're getting taught here

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viewing R^2 as being a subset of R^3

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it's kind of questionable

opaque galleon
royal basin
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also just fyi there exist ways to format your text to make it actually look like a quote

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compare:

This text is quoted from a textbook, or notes, or something of this nature.
vs:

This text is quoted from a textbook, or notes, or something of this nature. But it
looks like I'm just saying it myself, with some weird line spacing.

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how what

opaque galleon
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nvm

opaque galleon
royal basin
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magnitude, or length, or norm

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(three different names for the same thing)

opaque galleon
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oh then what is single bar

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$|\vector{A}|$

royal basin
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absolute value, specifically for real (or complex) numbers

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steamhahasteamhaha
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opaque galleon
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ohhh yeah

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bruh

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in physics they use single bar

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shadow lava
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shadow lava
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Technically are these both exactly the same? Brackets are necessary or not necessary?

solid oxide
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In this case brackets aren't necessary

royal basin
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matrix multiplication is associative

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so no those brackets are redundant

shadow lava
solid oxide
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Yeah

shadow lava
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OK ty

royal basin
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you can include brackets, and sometimes terms (or factors) are bracketed a certain way to illustrate a point

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sacred walrus
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Hello. I have a geometry question. I need to calculate the radius of a thick circle like that and also implement some things in Computer Graphics.

Which line shows the right radius? and if you know any references i could use in my report. Thank you.

royal basin
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a thick circle...? so an annulus?

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why do you need only one number to serve as its radius

sacred walrus
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My task is to create a circle and be able to change its line "thickness". I need to keep the radius as it was at start. So when i just increase the linesize i believe the blue line shows the correct Radius. But if pink line is true i am mistaken

tardy epoch
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If you want to keep the same average value for the two radii then the blue is correct. If you want to keep the same inner radii, then pink is correct

sacred walrus
tardy epoch
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I don't know what you mean by mistake

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You haven't told us the exact question

sacred walrus
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The whole thing is just an opengl project:
Write a computer program in C++/OpenGL programming language that implements the circle process. The user will be able to interactively and in real time change the coordinates of the center (xc, yc), the radius (r) and the thickness of the drawing line (size). At each change of these values the circle must be redrawn. The calculations must be done in a mathematical way.

My professor said beware the radius when changing the line thickness so... That's why I am asking

tardy epoch
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Then you have to define for us what a radius of an annulus is

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It could be the average of the two radii, inner radius, or outer radius, or something else

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Or define the thickness of a "circle"

sacred walrus
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So there is not something standard for this cause an annulus wont have 1 radius like circle does right? and a thick circle would be an annulus?

tardy epoch
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A circle does not have any thickness

sacred walrus
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Is there a way to find a mathematical proof for this? To include the fact in my report as a fact? Cause i don't seem to find anything except the 2 radii of an annulus

tardy epoch
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These are just definitions or conventions

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Graphics or design resources will be more useful

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sacred walrus
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Thanks a lot you reallly helped. PepeHeart

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tulip barn
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What happens if my amortization schedule does not hit 0?

tulip barn
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Like what can I conclude with that

brisk matrix
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this sounds like an accounting question

oak bolt
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Doesn't it just mean that the last payment will be smaller than the regular payments?

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.reopen

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oak bolt
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If you go one more step does it go negative?

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It would be nice to know what the columns represent

tulip barn
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Left represents the reduction of the loan balance, right column represents the loan balance itself

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It's like the amortization schedule in western countries

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But for some reason, ours is different

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Here are the columns

brisk matrix
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@tulip barn is this an accounting question

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left cargo
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can someone explain this please

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left cargo
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ok

shut marlin
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So (r-1)! times r will be r!

left cargo
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r! = r x (r-1)!

shut marlin
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Exactly

left cargo
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yh

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i got that

shut marlin
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And so we have the first fraction being r on r!

left cargo
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how

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how does 1/(r-1)! go to r/r!

shut marlin
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You can turn a fraction into another fraction by multiplying both the numerator and the denominator by the same number

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Which is equivalent but sometimes easy to work with

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So in this case if we have the denominator to both be r! it is easier to carry on

left cargo
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yea

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So we multiply both number by r and 1/(r-1)! becomes r/r!

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These two are equivalent

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Because 1*r=r

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And (r-1)!*r=r!

left cargo
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mhm

shut marlin
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And once we have the same denominator, we can perform the subtraction

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That is, (r-1)/r!

left cargo
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oh because r!/r! is 1 so we dont change the actual fraction

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ok

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cheers mate for that, i just have never manipulated factorials before so it can be a little confusing

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but you are a great teacher thank you ❤️

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tired nacelle
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Intergal of (x⁴(lnx)²)

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limber quartz
tired nacelle
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I should use DI method

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But don't know how to start

limber quartz
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ok

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so DI method is a faster way of doing Integration by Parts multiple times

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the process ends either when the derivative ("D") part goes to zero

tired nacelle
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@limber quartz

limber quartz
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or when you get what you started with for int. v du

limber quartz
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...but integral of (lnx)^2 makes me a little nervous

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in situations of uncertainty, I check a table of integrals. Or rather, I would, in the days before wolfram alpha 😉

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meh

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you know

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I think you should differentiate (lnx)^2

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and integrate x^4

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since integrals of polynomials are easy

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and the integral of (lnx)^2 is nuts

tired nacelle
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Yeah , just i wanna try to get integral of (lnx)² 😅

limber quartz
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I don't know how to do that or if you should even try doing that to solve this

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instead, I would set it up like this

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D       |   I
--------|-------
(lnx)^2 |  x^4 dx
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do those columns

tired nacelle
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Yeah

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But if i try to go to zero (for x⁴)

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🤔

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And integral ln(x)²

limber quartz
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I'm struggling too but gimme a sec

tired nacelle
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Oh it's hard 😂

sage geode
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How about first substitute for lnx and then do integration by parts?

limber quartz
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u            |   dv
-------------|-------
(lnx)^2      |  x^4 dx
2lnx/2       | (1/5)x^5
2(1-lnx)/x^2 | (1/30)x^6
(4lnx-6)/x^3 | (1/210)x^7
tired nacelle
limber quartz
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because I'm just hoping we circle back at some point and it's a long shot not happening

sage geode
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t = lnx
dt = dx/x
dx = xdt = e^t dt

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So you are basically integrating e^4t * t^2 * e^t dt or e^5t * t^2 dt

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Can you do that?

tired nacelle
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Wait, i will try rn

tired nacelle
sage geode
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Huh? So dt = 1/x * dx

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Which is the same as dx/x

tired nacelle
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Oh 😅

limber quartz
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There's my only contribution here--verifying Bean

tired nacelle
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We don't wrote dx here 🥲 so it's something new for me

limber quartz
tired nacelle
limber quartz
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DI is really easy now though

tired nacelle
tired nacelle
limber quartz
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Yeah, when you're all done

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Alright, tysm

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i need help again

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i didnt find the answer

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You have the midpoint right

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I think if u set up an equation using pythag

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I think the midpoint was (-2,2)

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In this case it would be sqrt(-2-x)^2 +(2-y)^2 =3/2sqrt10

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I halved the 3sqrt10 bc its the midpoint

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What does it actually infer to transpose the null space ahaha?

frail depot
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Because here I obviously just solve null A

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But not null A^T

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So would I need to transpose the reduced echelon form?

trail musk
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Can you translate

frail depot
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It's just finding the null space transposed

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So I set Ax=0

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and solved

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And I have just written what I did but not important xD

trail musk
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Why are you talking about the transpose at all

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Nul(A^T) gives you the orthogonal space to the column vectors of A.

frail depot
trail musk
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Yes

frail depot
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Because I am solving for the orthogonal complement

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So I need null A^T

trail musk
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Mind just translating the exact wording of what the question is

frail depot
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Bestem en basis for U komplement (det ortogonale komplement til U).
Determine a basis for U complement (the orthogonal complement for U)

trail musk
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Ok now I understand. That didn't seem to have anything to do with your image here, somewhat confusing

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Yes, to find the orthogonal complement take Nul A^T

frail depot
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And then put it in echelon form?

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And now my question is as ..

frail depot
trail musk
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Doesn't seem like you've actually posted the question you're working on

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Where is U defined?

frail depot
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What is the problem?

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I need to find null A^T

trail musk
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So that is your matrix U?

frail depot
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Yes

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Written as a column space matrix

trail musk
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Great

frail depot
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So, I put it in echelon form

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reduced echelon form

trail musk
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Yep

frail depot
trail musk
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Take the transpose first

frail depot
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Then we're here

trail musk
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Alright

frail depot
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The transpose?

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WHat?

trail musk
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So what's the problem?

frail depot
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Well I only get one of the right answers

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I am missing one

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there's supposted to be two

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And what do you mean transpose it?

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Do I pick it as the column space matrix, and transpose it? lmao? 😂

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Then it's the same as the row space matrix?

trail musk
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Well thats because you didn't take the transpose of the matrix

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Let me show you

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You should have

frail depot
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Do I pick it as the column space matrix, and transpose it? lmao? 😂 Then it's the same as the row space matrix right?

trail musk
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-3 0
2 2
6 - 3

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Row reduce this

frail depot
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He said I could pick depending on which I want to solve

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It's literally also what he does in the result list

trail musk
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Yep

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Theres multiple ways to do this

frail depot
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Yes, so I write it as a column space matrix, but you're saying to transpose that, but then it comes the row A (row space matrix)

trail musk
frail depot
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Oh, I thought we wrote "or" but I can see now we just multipled the second one with 2

trail musk
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This is right. You just have to account for the fact that there is a constant multiple attached.

2×(3,3/2,1) = (6,3,2)

frail depot
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So the basis is just right?

trail musk
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Yes

frail depot
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But so all the things you said with transpose I can forget right? Like you can write it as the column space matrix and solve for that, or the row space matrix

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Either way doesn't matter, but I feel like if I then tranpose them it doesn't make sense to pick because then you transpose and pick the other one

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like you know what I mean 😂

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I pick row A transpose it in this case and get col A anyway

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SO like what's the point

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Whereas if I solve for col A

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I get null A and I have to transpose the vectors in there to get null A^T

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and then we end up having 3 3/2 1

trail musk
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I don't have the context and I don't want to confuse you

frail depot
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But I also want to understand it

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But so

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say I pick this, right?

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I write is a the column space matrix

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And then reduced echelon form

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And then that's the transpose part?

trail musk
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Why don't you try putting what you circled in an English sentence

frail depot
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Or no

trail musk
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I don't think you understand the statement

frail depot
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The col A complement is equal to the null space transposed

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?

trail musk
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The orthogonal complement of the column space of A is equal to the null of A^T.

frail depot
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which i guess is calculating the subspace that is 90 deg to our column subspace

trail musk
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the column space of A is just the span of the column vectors of the matrix A

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there's no "calculating" the column space, it's given

frail depot
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yues, but the basis

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we get

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Is the basis for the subspace that is 90 deg orthogornal

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Isn't it?

trail musk
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what was your original matrix A?

frail depot
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A subspace U

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Of 2 vectors, u_1, u_2

trail musk
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take a screenshot of the original matrix

frail depot
trail musk
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ok finally that makes more sense

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try to actually post the original question next time haha

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saves us a lot of time and confusion

frail depot
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sorry haha

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fair sorry

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But I feel like what I've done is correct so far

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I guess i just don't see where the transpose part comes in

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Like I never actually tranpose the null space

trail musk
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yes. so we have:
A =
-3 0
2 2
6 - 3

frail depot
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I write is as the column space matrix .. reduce echelon form ... free variables and vectors ... and the result

trail musk
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A^T =
-3 2 6
0 2 -3

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does that make more sense now?

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we DID take the transpose

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when we turn it from a 3x2 matrix into a 2x3 matrix

frail depot
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Aah, because col

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col is A=(u1, u2)

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right

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ANd then A^T

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A

U1
U2
Instead

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as rows instead of columns

trail musk
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yes exactly

frail depot
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I see

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sooo

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Just to make sure

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So, if we'd picked the row A

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It would've literally just been
A

U1
U2

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from start

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No need to transpose

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And I think that was what Deterix was trying to tell me

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in the other channel, which I thought I understood (kind of also did) but now I think it makes a lot more sense

trail musk
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yes. if you want the orthogonal complement of the ROW SPACE, just take the nul of the ORIGINAL matrix

frail depot
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yep yep!

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Okay thank you so much!
Made it a lot more clear now! 😂

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So ye thanks for taking the time to explain it and not getting to frustrated with me 😂 ❤️

trail musk
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next time just post the original question

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it's a lot simpler to help without all these unrelated things

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but all good

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👍

frail depot
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Yes, I promise I will do!
I don't know why I just thought it wasn't important for this type of question since I thought the "sub" question was sort of encapsulated in its own but I see now it isn't so will do!

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Anyway, thanks again! ❤️

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there is something wrong with what i did or its fine?

brisk grove
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Do you know what's A * A^-1?

pale mortar
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yes

brisk grove
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In your second like, you suddenly ignored it.

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It isn't O, it's the identity matrix

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let me see

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from the second to third line,

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why did you switch the places of A and B^-1

pale mortar
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that was the thing

pale mortar
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asking for (A^-1 X A)^-1

brisk grove
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you did it correct when it was 2 matrices

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switch the order and take the inverse

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(ABC)^-1 = C^-1 * B^-1 * A^-1

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I need help please

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idk if I did this right

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work for it:

brave bramble
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I see you divided by h + 232 in one step.

Is that always a legal move?

open wharf
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im pretty sure

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you can divide a row by a scalar

brave bramble
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You can, as long as you aren't dividing by 0.

open wharf
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true

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so im not sure if its -24 or -232

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or.....

brave bramble
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So yeah, that step becomes illegal if h = -232

open wharf
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cuz I had this other problem with the following work and this was the right answer

brave bramble
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And the matrix can't be reduced

open wharf
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and the answer was 6

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so following the same login it gotta be -232 or -24

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so you are saying its -24?

brave bramble
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I don't follow where -24 is coming from

open wharf
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so basically

open wharf
brave bramble
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But I am saying the matrix won't reduce if h = -232

open wharf
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oh ok

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so basically this was the work for this question:

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and the answer was 6 when we got the h-6

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so here:

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our work was

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so im feeling since we get an h-24, it should be 24

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wadya think @brave bramble

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<@&286206848099549185> pls help

brave bramble
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The division is what's important

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You're dividing by h + 232, which is legal, unless h is -232.

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You'll notice in the other question you've divided by h - 6, so the matrix can't be reduced if h = 6.

open wharf
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oh

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so it is -232?

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if I understand correctly

brave bramble
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Ye

open wharf
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ok thanks

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spark jungle
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Bruh

timid silo
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what

spark jungle
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i already claimed this

obtuse pebbleBOT
timid silo
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oh shi

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i posted that at the same time as you lol

spark jungle
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lol

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oops

timid silo
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mb

spark jungle
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its all good

spark jungle
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the U

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what does that mean

native inlet
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A union B

spark jungle
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union?

native inlet
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what points in the data set are contained within A and B

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the intersection

spark jungle
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34?

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its both

native inlet
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oh wait

spark jungle
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but thats the same as the first questino

native inlet
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wrong symbol smh

spark jungle
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?

native inlet
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that's the intersection symbol

spark jungle
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The U is?

native inlet
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$\cap$

warm shaleBOT
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XxMrFancyu2xX (anti glomed)

native inlet
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this is the intersection symbol

spark jungle
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No the second question

native inlet
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ah ok

spark jungle
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the first is right

native inlet
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the U is the union symbol

spark jungle
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$\uncap$

warm shaleBOT
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$\uncap$
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native inlet
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$\cup$

warm shaleBOT
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XxMrFancyu2xX (anti glomed)

native inlet
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This is the union symbol

spark jungle
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What does it mean?

native inlet
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it means combine the sets

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so $A\cup B$

warm shaleBOT
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XxMrFancyu2xX (anti glomed)

native inlet
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are the things in set A combined with set B

spark jungle
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do i change the denominator

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its wrong

native inlet
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;-;

spark jungle
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i added them

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i think the denominator is wrong

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oops

native inlet
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are A and B mutually exclusive?

spark jungle
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What does that mean

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idk what to do

native inlet
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no they aren't yes ok hang on—I have completely forgotten how to do this but

spark jungle
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lol

native inlet
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$P(A\cup B)=P(A)+P(B)-P(A\cap B)$

warm shaleBOT
#

XxMrFancyu2xX

native inlet
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idk where this formula comes from

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but

spark jungle
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lol

native inlet
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big font size flonshed

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anyways

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what is the new answer you get?

spark jungle
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wait

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0?

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i add and subtract

native inlet
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uhh you shouldn't have gotten 0...

spark jungle
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109 + 38 - 109 + 38?

native inlet
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What is $P(A\cap B)$ again? (recall your previous answer)

spark jungle
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147/280
\

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147/280

warm shaleBOT
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XxMrFancyu2xX

spark jungle
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34/280

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34/280 - 147/280

native inlet
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slow down a little 😅

spark jungle
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ok

native inlet
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ok so we have $P(A\cap B)$, now we need $P(A)$ and $P(B)$ what are those?

warm shaleBOT
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XxMrFancyu2xX

spark jungle
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109 and 38

native inlet
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not quite those are the values

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but what's the probability of each?

spark jungle
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109/280

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38/280

native inlet
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yes! pandaHugg

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now we use $P(A\cup B)=P(A)+P(B)-P(A\cap B)$

warm shaleBOT
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XxMrFancyu2xX

native inlet
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and we get the probability of A union B

spark jungle
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so

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147/280

#

34/280

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113/280

#

?

native inlet
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pandaWow and now we hope that's right or otherwise I've just embarrassed myself 😂

spark jungle
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it doesnt work

native inlet
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ah great

spark jungle
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lmao

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itsd ok

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dont be embarrassed

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what should i do

native inlet
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idk what went wrong tbh

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omg

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P(A) and P(B) are not 109/280 and 38/280

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P(A)=(109+34)/280

spark jungle
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lol

native inlet
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P(B)=(38+34)/280

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omg

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simple mistake bruh

spark jungle
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wait what

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109+38/280

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= 139/280

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-34/280

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105/280

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doedsnt work

native inlet
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ok so P(A)=143/280

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right?

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P(B)=72/280

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right?

spark jungle
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ye

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no?

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109 and 38

native inlet
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A is the entire circle

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109+34

spark jungle
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oh

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whats b than

native inlet
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the other circle! pandaHugg

spark jungle
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72

native inlet
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yes!

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so then P(A)=143/280 and P(B)=72/280

spark jungle
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109+34+72-34

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=181/280

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works

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thanks

native inlet
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yw man have a good day!

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:))

spark jungle
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@native inlet r u here

native inlet
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yep

spark jungle
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ok so

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F is

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female is

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109/280

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left hand is 38/280

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how do i find right hand

spark jungle
native inlet
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how is set B defined? thonk

spark jungle
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the number of left-handed students in the same year group (set B)

native inlet
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so then what would be people who are right handed?

spark jungle
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what does 99 represent

native inlet
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students who were neither left-handed nor female

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they're in neither set

spark jungle
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so

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right is in there

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but also male is

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so

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I don't know how I am supposed to find the number of right handed people from that graph.

native inlet
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ok think about this

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do you agree that people are either left or right handed?

spark jungle
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yes

native inlet
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so if all the people that are left-handed are the number in set b

spark jungle
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38

native inlet
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what is true about all the other people outside of set b

spark jungle
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they arent left handed

native inlet
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hence

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they must be....

spark jungle
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but they can also be male

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or femla

native inlet
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exactly

spark jungle
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female

native inlet
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but their right-handed

spark jungle
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yes

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wait

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wat

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oops

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🤦‍♂️

native inlet
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lmao

spark jungle
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i got confused

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242/280
?

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its incorrect

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wait

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hmm

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280-38 left handed

native inlet
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no

spark jungle
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What is the probability that the student is right-handed given that they are female?

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so they have to be female

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109 females

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242 right handed

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so

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i need to subtract males

native inlet
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there are NOT 242 right-handed ‼️

spark jungle
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280-38

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subtract left handed

native inlet
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there are not 38 left-handed ‼️

spark jungle
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and the number of left-handed students in the same year group (set B)

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38+34?

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what 😭

native inlet
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so there are 72 left-handed persons‼️

spark jungle
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and 143 females?

native inlet
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yep! pandaHugg

spark jungle
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71/280?

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females-left hand person

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but the 62 left handed people

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can be male

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also

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so

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left handed females: 34

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143 females

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143-34 = 109

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109/280 is wrong

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makes no sense

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anyone help

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help

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!status

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rich plume
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What do you want to do? Simplify?

vocal cove
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i want to know which one i do first

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like the square root

rich plume
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What do you want to achieve through this equation??

vocal cove
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do i solve the questions in it and then square root final answer?

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or all

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im trying to help someone despite knowing nothing

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What's the original question

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You have an equation without any context

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k

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hlo can someone help me understand this question please,
let A (3,-4) , B(1,2). Let P (2k-1 , 2k+1) be a variable point such that PA + PB is the minimum. Then k is

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i didn't get what it means by PA + PB is the minimum ?

brave bramble
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I also don't know. The minimum of what?

crimson torrent
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idk its just written as PA + PB is the minimum

brave bramble
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Doesn't help that you can't order vectors

crimson torrent
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Its coordinate geometry if that gives any idea ?

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No lengths in there, or anything?

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i have the answer to that question and it says

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the points are cooliner

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one sec

brave bramble
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That is very broken

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im legit confused lmao

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it says by triangle inequality

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I'm thinking they mean "when is |PA| + |PB| minimized?"

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That is, the length of both vectors individually, then summed. You can only minimize it by making the three points collinear

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oeh

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What they've actually asked is not English

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hmm i see

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ig i will skip on this instead of wasting time

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thank u for trynna help

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Trying to find the derivative of ln(arccosh(4x)) but the answer i get is different to the answer sheet

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why not just $\frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}u}[\ln(u)]\cdot\frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}x}[\text{arccosh}(4x)]$?

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subtle jasper
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Wanted to try implicit differentiation

native inlet
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I see well when your undoing ur y

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you only have arccosh(4x)

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you missed your ln

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Ohhh

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Thanks 🙏

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yw! :))

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hi has someone here had pure maths in highschool? i just wanted to talk about it a little because im taking it next year and im a little nervous and unsure

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that's a very vague class name

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do you know what the topics covered will be?

timid silo
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Any particular curriculum

winter spruce
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no idk what topics will be covered, im a homeschooling student at impaq

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well it's tough to discuss the course without knowing what it'll talk about

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if you can find out then maybe someone can discuss it with you, and if so would you mind moving it to #math-discussion

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ok i will do so, thank you

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need help finding the integral

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I know my antiderivative is wrong but i can't think of another way to do it

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@timid silo

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?

runic void
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do a trig sub

timid silo
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what's a trig sub

scarlet mason
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you dont need to use a trig sub

runic void
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Can you recognise the function as something familiar?

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like say some shape?

scarlet mason
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read what the problem originally said: "evaluate the integral by interpreting in terms of areas"

timid silo
runic void
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What’s the equation of circle with radius 6?

timid silo
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(x-h)^2 ?

runic void
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Equation of circle entered at origin with radius 6?

timid silo
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area of a circle ?

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pi r^2 ?

runic void
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No, just the equation of ciricle

timid silo
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idk

runic void
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if you are unaware it’s fine, we can work through it

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draw a circle

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and mark one radius

timid silo
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ok

runic void
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construct a right triangle with the radius as hypotenuse

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The drawing must be in a cartesian XY plane

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our goal is to find the set of all coordinates which lies in the ciricle

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This is like a specific example

timid silo
runic void
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The XY plane you draw graphs

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ok

runic void
timid silo
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yes

runic void
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What theorem can we use to get to radius from x and y?

timid silo
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X^2+y^2 ?

runic void
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what theorem?

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You should know it

timid silo
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idk

runic void
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What grade are u in ?

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calc 1