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median dome
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oh

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um

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if it's random then you will have to use some vector shenanigans

obsidian wagon
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its not exactly a random, its a random in a range 🤔

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but lets say for instance that number doubles every time

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but its closer to the log speed

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Given a set of three positive integers (X, Y, Z), and an operation that allows you to subtract one from two of these and add one two to the third, what is the minimum number of operations required to reduce two of them to zero? example: (1, 4, 6) -> (0, 5, 5) -> (1, 4, 4) .... -> (5, 0, 0): 6 operations

tender stratus
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this was actually an algorithm question(coding) but I think its solution should be more mathematical in nature. for the obvious, I know that if two numbers are equal the minimum operations required would be their value. I'm not sure how to go about from there though

royal basin
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are our integers allowed to be negative in the interim?

drifting wraith
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i think you can't make numbers have the same parity if they had it different

royal basin
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also ^

drifting wraith
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so you always know which one you're going for

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unless they are all the same parity

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drifting wraith
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sure

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so that's the algorithm

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if there's a split, reduce the ones with the same parity until you get one zero

tender stratus
drifting wraith
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then bounce that between 1 and 0
if there's no split do the same with the smallest numbers

royal basin
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can you perhaps share the original flavor text

tender stratus
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sure give me a moment

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Problem Statement

We have x rupees, y dollars, and z euros. In this wonderland, in a single operation, any single unit of two different currencies can be exchanged with the remaining one. We want to have all of our money in a single type of currency only. Return the minimum number of operations required to do this or else return -1 if it is not possible to do so.

drifting wraith
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the answer is the second smallest number of the majority parity

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neat

tender stratus
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I could be wrong about 6 operations being required tbh

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this was the only example in the question

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oh wait

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I realized I had the question misunderstood

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its +2 not +1

drifting wraith
errant oriole
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Numbers can be negative during process?

drifting wraith
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so subtract 1 from two, and add 2 to one?

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that doesn't even change the algorithm, same answer

tender stratus
drifting wraith
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wait nvm

tender stratus
drifting wraith
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then i suppose it's not possible if they are all different terity

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not a real word surprisingly

tender stratus
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seems to be true, at least I haven't been able to think of a counterexample

drifting wraith
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but it's the same answer though, second lowest of the majority terity

tender stratus
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can we somehow use the fact that the ending number must be the sum of all 3?

tender stratus
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unfortunately I don't have access to the test cases so I cant verify it 100%

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worthy ferry
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Hi, my question is relating to 8-bit subtraction.

quasi current
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,w compute 11001010 base 2-10011010 base 2

worthy ferry
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I am unsure as to how to subtract a binary number.

quasi current
worthy ferry
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Ah yes, most certainly.

quasi current
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okay wait it's not that one

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give me a moment

worthy ferry
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Sure.

quasi current
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I just woke up so lemme get my laptop

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worthy ferry
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That's alright man.

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I have seen this video, it is great.

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I would like to add four binary numbers. I am unsure as to how that is done

worthy ferry
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I will show you my work right now.

trim portal
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you can then verify your calculation by converting everything to base 10

frosty spoke
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you're asked to do two's complement

trim portal
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Oh I see

frosty spoke
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change the second number to two's complement (I really mean negate the second number and represent it in two's complement)

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i.e. flip all of the bits and add 1

worthy ferry
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I have done this a couple of weeks prior, so i have forgotten as to how I did this.

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My work is correct, but I do not know to apply this to adding or subtracting 3 or more binary numbers.

trim portal
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1a is adding 3 or more binary numbers

worthy ferry
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I did not know that.

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Oh

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..Yes

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Of course.

trim portal
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Also in this particular task you are supposed to do it by two's complement

worthy ferry
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What is a two's complement?

worthy ferry
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Thank you

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frosty spoke
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what's the equivalent in base 10

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tens complement? lol

worthy ferry
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I want to create a practice problem, is it okay if I can try to do it and you can tell me if I did it correctly?

trim portal
worthy ferry
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Or maybe you can make a problem and I can do it.

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Okay, I will make the problem.

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I will try to add four binary numbers.

frosty spoke
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-11001
-1011
10100
100000
10011
-10111
-11110
-11101
10
1110
-100100
-11101
-11111
10110
-110
1111
-110
-1
10111
101000
-1001
-1100
10000
100101
1011
10100
11111
1
0
-110
-100100
-1101
-100110
-11001
-100100
1
11000
100011
1001
11011
-100
11010
100110
10111
-11101
11000
1011
10000
11111
101
11011
-100111
1
-100001
1
-101000
-101
101000
100001
101000

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here is a list of random binary numbers for you

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there are all of your addition problems

worthy ferry
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I can't even read all of that, but your efforts are much appreciated.

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I am almost finished with my problem.

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How does this look?

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yes

frosty spoke
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im too lazy to actually add any of that up

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you should try using a calculator

worthy ferry
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As wonderful of a suggestion that was, I do not think I would be able to use a calculator to do such problem in certain situations.

high lily
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1111+1111 isn't 1110

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1+1+1 isn't 1

worthy ferry
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You're right

frosty spoke
worthy ferry
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I messed up.

frosty spoke
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what's the difference between asking someone else to calculate it and using a machine built to do it?

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one's wasting someone else's time with something that a machine can do

worthy ferry
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I did not use common sense, you are right.

worthy ferry
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I will fix the problem now.

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The answer is 1 1 0 0 1 1

trim portal
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what method did you use btw? I dont get the steps

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Ah I see, you added them one by one

worthy ferry
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Yes.

trim portal
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I was confused with the upper lines, those are the carries

worthy ferry
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Yes. I should have made it more clear.

trim portal
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as long as you understand it it's okay

worthy ferry
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Thank you

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I will now have to learn about adding boolean equations. Very difficult subject for me.

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I used an online source to show me the answer and the work, but i still do not understand.

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Perhaps I will return when I research the topic more.

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Thank you Math

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trim portal
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actually ramonov was the one who pointed out your mistake

worthy ferry
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You are right

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frosty spoke
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can you type that out or make it larger

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A wizard having powers of mystic in candations and magical medicines seeing a cock fight going on, spoke privately to both the owners of cocks. To one he said: If your bird wins, then you give me your stake-money, but if you do not win, I shall give you two third of that. Going to the other, he promised in the same way to give three fourth. From both of them his gain would be only 12 gold coins. Find the stake of money each of the cock-owners have.

hasty swan
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-2/3x+y=12
x-3/4y=12

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solve

velvet cypress
hasty swan
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you get why its these eqns?

velvet cypress
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yes

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i'm 15

hasty swan
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<33

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how do i determine wheter the first surface is only on one side of the second surface?

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i cnat figure out how to determine that, and i dont get much help from the book i have

main rose
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Determine if there are any intersections. If there are none one surface must be on one side of the other

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The there are intersections however it doesnt garantue that they pass through each other

austere holly
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so can i look at both gradients and see if they are linear?

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and if they are then they intersect?

main rose
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Well you know that the gradient of the first function is not linear

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So that approach will not work

austere holly
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i meant linearly independent sorry

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i dont know all terms in english sorry

main rose
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Its alright, I am not sure if that will work

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I think it might be easier to try and solve the system of equations

austere holly
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hmm but i have only two equations

main rose
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Usually that means there isnt one specific solution

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but a range of solutions

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y - x + sqrt(8-2x^2 - y^2) = x + 2y - 7
2x + y - 7 = sqrt(8 - 2x^2 - y^2)
(2x + y - 7)^2 = 8 - 2x^2 - y^2
It doesnt look like its going to be very easy

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Ooh, the domain of the first function is limited

austere holly
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yee the aquareroot

main rose
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since (2x^2 + 2y^2) <= 8

austere holly
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is that a constraint?

main rose
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So were looking at the unit circle with radius 2

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Yes because otherwise the square root has somthing negative inside of it

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and thats bad

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but sadly I need to catch a train

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I am sorry I can help you further

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Hopefully you can get further with that extra constraint

austere holly
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yes thank you!

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when i calculated x from the equations i got, my x became an imaginary number, does that mean there is no intersection of the two functions?

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austere holly
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someone?

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austere holly
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why not?🤔

fallow cove
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Take an example sqrt(5-4)

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If we take out the sqrt4 here it becomes 2

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And we get sqrt4 - 2

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But 1 is the correct answer

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Cuz we have to simplify the stuff inside the sqrt first then we can take it out

austere holly
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but i have expressed y as x and the things under the sqrt becomes 0

fallow cove
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Huh

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Ohh

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I see

austere holly
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do you know if i have solved the problem correctly?

fallow cove
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Yes

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Are you grade 8-ish?

austere holly
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first year at uni

fallow cove
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Oh ok

austere holly
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how would you determine wheter the surface and the flat plane intersect?

fallow cove
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I think that the 2 function did not touch the x axis?

austere holly
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they do

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How do I calculate this thing

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Sorry sir

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hello

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edgy needle
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what did i do wrong?

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for BH

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(part ii)

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oh i get it now

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i brought over the squared from 80

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jaunty dew
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Air is escaping from a spherical balloon at a constant rate of 15 cm³/s. Find the rate at which the radius of the balloon is decreasing when its volume is 972π cm³

jaunty dew
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How exactly do we solve this question?

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Assuming that we have to use the chain rule

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We can't really do dV/dr (4/3πr³), can we? I've tried and the answer seems wrong

plain stag
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You use dV/dt instead

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Treating V and r as functions of t

jaunty dew
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I did

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It's part of the chain rule

plain stag
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So what do you get after you differentiate?

jaunty dew
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Wait

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This is what I did 🥲

plain stag
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dt/da?

jaunty dew
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Air escaping per seconds 💀

jaunty dew
plain stag
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The units used for the air escaping is cm^3/s

jaunty dew
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Yes

plain stag
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Volume/time

jaunty dew
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Meaning volume

plain stag
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So not "dt/da", but dV/dt

jaunty dew
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Lemme retry

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It correct, tysm

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novel gale
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What is tan • x

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grizzled shore
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what is •

novel gale
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Multiplying

severe reef
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Tan is a function, needs an argument

novel gale
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Ik but wth is this

severe reef
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That's just tanx

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I guess the • is a misprint

novel gale
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Ah alr thanks

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AD equation is: y = 1/2 x-3. so far I've worked out: A(6,0) AB equation: y = -2 x +12. B(0,12). D(10,?) is given. what is the y of D if the x is 10?

night lodge
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D lies on which line

agile siren
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AD

night lodge
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u have eqn of AD

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and u know X coordinate

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gosh thank you

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i'm working through khan academy and i'm trying to do it by myself.

what i need to know is how to differentiate Y= 2 / 9+x^2

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I legit just dont know how to go about solving it.

slender nebula
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do uk the quotient rule for differentiation?

placid wadi
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i don't believe i remember that.

slender nebula
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okay do uk the chain and product rules?

placid wadi
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i took calc 2, 3 to 4 years ago and i'm in diff. eq. now. i have quite a few holes in my knowledge.

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Chain rule and product rule seem familiar. i can look it up.

slender nebula
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alright if u know the quotient rule, use that (I wd recommend learning it if u're already doin diff eqns)

placid wadi
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okay i'll refresh myself. thanks!

slender nebula
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or u can rewrite this as 2(9 + x^2)^(-1)

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and use the chain rule

placid wadi
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is it okay to leave this open and comeback with a response?

slender nebula
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sure

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Still working on it, But i did have a side question, what would the derivatives of the signs called? like what could i look up to learn or memorize them.

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when you derivate a number it just becomes zero right?

placid wadi
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okay so i got 4x / (9+x^2)^2 for y' which is not equal to xy^2

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using the quotient rule.

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Did i maybe go about it wrong?

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@slender nebula (sorry for the ping)

arctic raptor
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remember y = 2/(9+x^2)

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you can substitute that value into your new equation

placid wadi
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So what i calculated was y' so you mean to say set what i calculated equal to xy^2? orr?

arctic raptor
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no no no

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what is y^2 equal to

placid wadi
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2y right?

arctic raptor
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no no

placid wadi
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OH

arctic raptor
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y squared

placid wadi
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like take the entire (2 / 9 + x^2) and square it?

arctic raptor
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yupo

placid wadi
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okay gimmie a few.

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oh.. [ 4 /( 9 + x^2)^2 ] unless i need to go further with the denom.

arctic raptor
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yup

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and your differential is x[4/(9+x^2)^2]

placid wadi
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right so its not equal due to the x on the right side?

arctic raptor
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from what you have done by substituting in y^2

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y" = xy^2

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because y" = x (y^2)

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where y^2 is 4/(9+x^2)^2

placid wadi
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right, right, so its as you said. x[4/(9+x^2)^2].

so i didnt need to derive the Y?

arctic raptor
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yes you did to prove it

placid wadi
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Oh okay, and i proved that it is not equal due to the addition of the X right?

arctic raptor
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the question asks if y" = xy^2

placid wadi
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did i maybe derivate wrong?

arctic raptor
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whats the answer

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is the answer no

placid wadi
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i got y' = [( 4x / 9 + x^2)^2]

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i haven't clicked an answer yet.

arctic raptor
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yes

placid wadi
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its not gonna kill me if i do i just wanted to learn and be sure.

arctic raptor
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i can write it out and send a pic of my working real quick

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you just need to sub in the value of y again

placid wadi
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If its quick, sure. i would appreciate it.

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I just dont want to waste your time.

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Awesome okay, thank you!

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what other rules should i look up to remember.

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I am doing Rational exponents with Paul's notes:

a^n = b <=> a = b^(1/n)

what if a is -5
for example

(-5)² = 25 <=> (-5) = 25^(1/2)

but below, in the examples, only 5 is the solution, not -5.

he says

In other words, when evaluating b^(1/n)
 we are really asking what number (in this case a) did we raise to the n to get b

We can raise both -5 and 5 to the power of 2, to get 25..

The question is, why's -5 not the solution too?

timid silo
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I am reading about this and it seems that
sqrt(25) = 5 is just a convention..
mathematicians decided to throw away -5..

if so, then isn't it wrong to say that

a^n = b <=> a = b^(1/n)

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would it be fine if we explicitly say that a is greater or equal to 0

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That way it's a function

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need help construct the proof

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what idea might be useful

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The definitions(!)

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okay but how the idea

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By definition of limit of f at c we have \
$\forall \varepsilon >0, \exists \delta=\delta (\varepsilon)>0 \ni 0<|x-c|<\delta \Longrightarrow |f(x)-L|<\varepsilon$

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and by definition of g tends to $\infty$ as $x\to c$: \
$\forall \alpha \in \mathbb{R}, \exists \delta=\delta(\alpha)>0 \ni 0<|x-c|<\delta \Longrightarrow g(x)>\alpha.$

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What I think is I need to show that $f(x)g(x)>\varepsilon$ but idk how to make it happen

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I found it on internet but I don't know how they achieve it

long dove
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and I also try it this way, \
$|f(x)|g(x)>\alpha$ but Idk how get rid the absolute.

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and I'm avoiding the \
$\lim_{x\to c}{f(x)\cdot g(x)}=\lim_{x\to c}{f(x)}\cdot \lim_{x\to c}{g(x)}=L\cdot \infty=\infty (\because L>0)$

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<@&286206848099549185>

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1

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is the | |

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whats confusing you

charred escarp
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Yea

thick gyro
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what you do

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is

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write it as a piecewise function

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and then split your integration over it

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as in

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6|u-1| is 6(u-1) when u is >1

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and 6(1-u) when u is <1

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so then you do

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$\int_{0}^{2} 6|u-1|du = $\int_{0}^{1} 6(1-u)du + $\int_{1}^{2} 6(u-1)du$

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@charred escarp do you get why we did this

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cuz from 0 to 1 it's minus the line and from 1 to 2 it's the positive line

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?

thick gyro
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yh

charred escarp
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I got 0. Correct answer is 6

thick gyro
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read them again

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also not sure why you needed to use subsitution on u-1

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lmao

charred escarp
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Yea I don't know what I'm doing

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@charred escarp

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Did I do it right?

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2x(16-x^2)

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idek how to approach the question

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How would you find the area of a rectangle? What would the coordinates of N be? Does that allow you to find information you’d need to calculate the area of that rectangle?

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ye

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How do you calculate the area of a rectangle

dusky scroll
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LxW

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Yep

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What would be the width of the rectangle in this problem?

dusky scroll
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ohhhh

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i kinda get it since P is x

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so the length would be 2x

barren estuary
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Yes

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What's the height

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oh since y =16-x^2 we sub it in

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facts facts

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Solved

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Good job

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ty ty ty

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1-0.5=0.95???

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????

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That goes again normal math man 💀

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it says 1 - 0.05

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@graceful apex

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hard for me to tell what the question is

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what's x?

winged aurora
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An integer

zenith raft
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so just saying this is even?

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Yup

zenith raft
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that's $\frac{a+b}{2} \frac{a-b}{2}$? as in multiplication between them?

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💜𝓁𝒶𝓎𝓁𝒶💜

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Yes

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so the question is prove that if $a$ and $b$ are even integers such that $\frac{a+b}{2}\cdot \frac{a-b}{2}$ is even, then $\frac{a+b}{2}$ and $\frac{a-b}{2}$ are even

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💜𝓁𝒶𝓎𝓁𝒶💜

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Exactly

zenith raft
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loll ok just making sure

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No problem

zenith raft
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i will try it out

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ok got it i think

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so one of (a+b)/2 and (a-b)/2 is even as you said

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if (a+b)/2 is even you can write a+b = 4n for some integer n

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then take a look at what a-b and (a-b)/2 equal

winged aurora
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Got it

zenith raft
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yay

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the case where (a-b)/2 is even should be very similar 🙂

winged aurora
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Yup

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My teacher said that they both will even so quickly i thought it was some simple logic

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What if neither is even?

winged aurora
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Then thier product won't be even

zenith raft
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then their product isn't even

civic zealot
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You also need to show that

winged aurora
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It is given in the question

civic zealot
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The statement is “if product is even, then one of them is even”
Your proof assumes one of them is even

zenith raft
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so they have the same parity

winged aurora
winged aurora
zenith raft
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whether something is even or odd

winged aurora
zenith raft
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so i just meant they are both even or both odd

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if you know they differ by an even integer

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,rotate

warm shaleBOT
winged aurora
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My main confusion was if a-b or a+b equals 2 then one the term turns out to be odd

zenith raft
zenith raft
winged aurora
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what i was saying earlier

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so one of (a+b)/2 and (a-b)/2 is even as you said
if (a+b)/2 is even you can write a+b = 4n for some integer n
then take a look at what a-b and (a-b)/2 equal

winged aurora
zenith raft
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I gotta and catch a bus

winged aurora
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And solved further and got the required result

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Sorry i gotta go

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Thanks for the help

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ok np ^^

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But about 6-7 hours later

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how do i find out if 2 vectors are linearly independent using matrices

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organize the vectors into a matrix as columns then solve

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$A\vec{x}=\vec{0}$

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benevo

frosty orchid
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non-zero solutions should indicate linear independence

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this works generally for any number of vectors

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if you have more vectors than numbers in your vectors then you can infer non-linear independence of the set of vectors

lime summit
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what of the opposite

frosty orchid
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meaning?

lime summit
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more numbers in vectors than number of vectors

frosty orchid
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ah if you have the same or fewer you still need to solve for non-zero solutions in the equation above.

lime summit
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form an augment matrix with the 0 vector and your matrix and use row reduction to form an equation.

lime summit
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0 vector and my matrix?

lime summit
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I am not sure what you mean

lime summit
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heres what id do if it there were 3 vectors

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but i cant do that with 2 vectors that are 3 dimensional

lime summit
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are you familiar with row reduction?

lime summit
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yes

frosty orchid
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for your example

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preform row reduction to solve for your <x, y, z> vector in this case you are guaranteed one free variable (all 0 row) as the there is one fewer vector than the height of the matrix.

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that last column of 0 is your 0 vector

lime summit
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thats not an augmented matrix but a regular one
now if i augment that with the x y z vector and then row reduce
that would make sense

frosty orchid
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what qualification is the matrix missing to be augmented?

lime summit
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the vertical line that goes between the matrix and the vector its augmented with

frosty orchid
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not quite correct, but I assume you get the point while I fiddle with latex.

frosty orchid
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seems correct enough; I suppose the 0 vector is behaving as an unnecessary component in this case.

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indeed. what this all means, i no longer know. i need sleep

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Hello!

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can you help me with this? i just need the answer

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!status

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@clever idol

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Sorry I'm back

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I'm just really confused and i don't really need the steps \

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just the answer

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so my question is that i'm not able to understand a concept in functions.

past peak
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,rccw

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past peak
# past peak

i'm able to understand what f(n) means when only one condition is given on the rhs such x or |x| or something
but what does it mean when 2 conditions are given

bold nest
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Define |x| for me

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In the format above

past peak
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modulus

bold nest
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No, define it as above

past peak
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f(x) = |x|
you mean this

bold nest
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yes

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define what it means to take the absolute value of a number

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in the format like this image

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f(x)=x if x is non-negative

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f(x)=-x if x is negative

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that's what the absolute value does

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past peak
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modulus changes the negative value to positive that's what i've read

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Yes......

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that's exactly what it does

past peak
bold nest
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f(-3)=-(-3)

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Do you see now

past peak
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no

past peak
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$|x| = (x$ if $x \ge 0, -x$ if $x < 0)$

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kheerii

median dome
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imagine this was written in the same format as on your paper

bold nest
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In your format, it's this MrBadAttitude

median dome
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ye

grand thunder
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As long as the conditions of the piecewise function cover the entire domain (and are mutually exclusive) then it's allowed

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Idk if you were confused why it was possible or just what it meant, sorry

past peak
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am i right?

grand thunder
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Not an answer but a function doesn't characteristically have conditions

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Us stating conditions is just an approach to defining the function

past peak
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only then it can be considered as a function

grand thunder
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Are you using relation in the sense of a set of ordered pairs

grand thunder
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Or are u using the term casually

grand thunder
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I was talking about the conditions like "if x > 0" in our notation

grand thunder
past peak
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the thing i'm not able to understand what those things mean

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like when you have 2 different conditions on the right

grand thunder
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Yeah

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Well

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Let me write up soem latex hold on

past peak
# past peak like when you have 2 different conditions on the right

in f(x) = x
here i understood is that if I input the of x in f(x) it'll be domain or a value of set A
and value of x in right hand side will be the range or value of set B

but when there are 2 conditions i'm not able to understand what they mean/ what they're trying to say

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[
f \colon { a, b } \to { 1, 2 }; \
f(x) = \begin{cases}
1 & x = a \
2 & x = b
\end{cases}
]

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futsal gkn1

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@past peak

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do you understand this example

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we're defining the rule of f using the notation after the semicolon

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For our input, x, output 1 if x = a and 2 if x = b

past peak
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$f \colon A \to B$ is a function that maps from set A to set B

warm shaleBOT
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futsal gkn1

grand thunder
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A is the domain, B is the codomain

past peak
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it defines what each value of the domain maps to using different conditions yeah

grand thunder
past peak
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just give me some time. lemme think

grand thunder
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maybe you're overtaking it or need a perspective shift

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the notation is just another way of defining the elements of the domain map to

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past peak
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this is what i've understood

grand thunder
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so yes x is in the domain

grand thunder
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finally

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@grand thunder Thanks.

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I am supposed to prove that the two vectors means the same line

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I am guessing that i need to check if they are parallel first. But i have no clue how to do that

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what a nice task

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one second

subtle igloo
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yeah no worries

royal shard
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when we look at these vectors, we can split them into two parts
one vector with the t's and one with only numbers

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for the first one we would get:
(2t,-t,-t) + (1,2,3)

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the sum of these two makes up the whole vector again

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we can write (2t,-t,-t) as (2,-1,-1)*t

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we can now call (2,-1,-1) our direction vector

subtle igloo
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That is basically parametric vector form right?

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on a different note, if we look at linear function we had:
y=mx+b
here m was our "direction" or slope
here it is the same
v=a*t + b
with a being the "direction"

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if we have the vector (2,-1,-1)
the parametric form would be 2x-y-z

subtle igloo
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ah okay

royal shard
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two function y=mx+b are parallel when their m are equal

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so our vectors are also parallel if their direction vector is equal

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so in this case, we get a "direction" of (2,-1,-1)

subtle igloo
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Okay. so far i understand what you are saying

royal shard
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now let's get the direction vector of the second one

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maybe try it yourself

subtle igloo
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(-2,1,1) ?

royal shard
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great

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now would you say they are parallel?

subtle igloo
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well. they would be the same if one of them would be multiplied by (-1). doesnt that mean that they point towards opposite directions?

royal shard
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exactly

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so they are parallel, but point in opposite directions

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still parallel though

subtle igloo
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Ah i see

royal shard
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now if two lines are parallel and we want to check if they are equal
it is enough to check if there is one point where they intersect
because then since they are parallel, all points will be shared between the two

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and thus they will be identical

subtle igloo
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Okay

royal shard
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do you have an idea on how to check this?

subtle igloo
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not really

royal shard
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we can think of these vectors as functions
so f(x)=ax+b
just that f(x), a and also b are vectors
now if a point P lies on this function, then P=f(x) has a solution

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it also works the other way around
so if we find a solution to P=f(x)
then we can know for certain that P lies on f(x)

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so let's start by getting this point P
we can choose any point of one of the vectors

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so let's just set t=0
the first vector gives us (1,2,3) then

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now to check if this point lies on the other line as well, we set them equal

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now let's see if we get a solution

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do you see, how we would do that?

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on the left side we have (1,2,3) and on the right (-2,1,1)t+(3,1,2)

subtle igloo
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if we set t to a value that makes them become equal?

royal shard
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yes that works

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but guessing can potentially take a long time

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we can simplify this equation by subtracting the vector (3,1,2)

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so we get
(-2,1,1)=(-2,1,1)t

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now we can clearly see that t=1 is a solution

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so in total:
-we found that the vectors point in the same, but opposite direction
-therefore they are parallel
-we found a point that both lines go through
-since they are parallel they are equal

subtle igloo
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You are very good at explaining. I have no clue why my teacher didnt go through this

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Thank you for your help

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have a good day

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you too ^^

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I have a question. So if an item cost $281 for 50 quantity, how much would I pay if I had 6 of the 50?

unborn anvil
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to get the price of one

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and then multiply by 6

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to get the price of 6 of the 50

icy yacht
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I tried 6 times 50 and its 300 (19 over 281) and doing 5 times 50 is 250 which is 31 under 281

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wait what

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what was ur answe?

icy yacht
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Like what I need to spend of the total?

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yea

icy yacht
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The total?

unborn anvil
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tell me ur answer

unborn anvil
wanton hull
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,w 281/50*6

wanton hull
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this should be your answer

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The whole math thing is in a game i'm playing. And the game only goes by cents and non whole dollars

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1 dollar = 100 cents

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just multiply by 100

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Hello I need help covering some rather easy topics

I was neglected to be taught as a child because I have autism and my working memory is ass so people got fed up with me rather quickly

I'd appreciate someone super patient willing to eli5 because I'm not the best at even simple things, I still can't divide in my head.

So, that being said

I need to cover real numbers and Algebraic expressions

Properties of exponents and radicals .
Polynomials and factoring

And rational expressions

timid silo
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also my English is 6/10?

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my teacher currently (I go to a technical college for nursing) kind of talks at me rather than to me

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which is a common phenomenon with math teachers in my location

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What do you mean by real numbers?

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uhhhh

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those sound like kind of broad topics that would be hard to cover in a discord chat

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timid silo
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this is true but I'll give some example problems

Khan academy makes me freak out ngl

royal basin
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oof

timid silo
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genuinely I'm stupid

trail cloak
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You're not

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No one is stupid

timid silo
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there is almost no hope in me really

this is kind of a last stitch effort before I fail and try to figure things out

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like what even is an integer

trail cloak
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Okay

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You know the regular numbers right

trim portal
trail cloak
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Those ones you use and count with

royal basin
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an integer is a positive whole number, a negative whole number or zero.

timid silo
royal basin
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..., -4, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, ...

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royal basin
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do you know natural numbers

timid silo
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not quite

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Like 1 2 3

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....

royal basin
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natural numbers are what you count with

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1, 2, 3, 4, ...

trail cloak
royal basin
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these, their negatives, and zero

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those are the integers

trail cloak
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Now integers is like whole numbers, but they can be plus or minus

timid silo
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one sec I will pull up an image I need explained

royal basin
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yeah, do that

timid silo
trail cloak
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Okay so like

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Natural numbers are the numbers you use for everyday stuff

timid silo
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so 1 2 3 4 5... Positive ONLY is natural numbers

trail cloak
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Yea

royal basin
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oh god the "whole as natural with zero" shit bleak

timid silo
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Okay so

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whole is like

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What is whole specifically

royal basin
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in this picture, whole numbers means natural numbers including zero

timid silo
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so like

0, 1, 2, 3

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is whole numbers

trail cloak
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$\mathbb{N}_0$

warm shaleBOT
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VulcanOne

royal basin
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0, 1, 2, 3, ...

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yes

trail cloak
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I think

timid silo
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what's the point of having whole numbers then if they can be represented by integers as well

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or is it just for technicalities

royal basin
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integers are a wider set

trail cloak
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They are different sets for different uses

timid silo
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integers contain negatives as well?

royal basin
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-3 is an integer but not a whole number, according to that pic...

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timid silo
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So integers would be like -3 -2 -1 and 0 1 2 3

trail cloak
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Yeppo

royal basin
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sure

timid silo
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are there any exceptions to this

royal basin
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exceptions to what

timid silo
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I just feel like there's something missing like you said sure

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what else is included

royal basin
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okay so like

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the reason why i said a somewhat noncommittal "sure"

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is that the way i heard it, you have glossed over the fact that the natural numbers go on forever

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they don't stop at 3 !

timid silo
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oh wait so do rational numbers include fractions in between each number as well

royal basin
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and the integers go on forever but in two functions

timid silo
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like negative and positively?

royal basin
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this includes both positive and negative rationals

timid silo
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and yeah I know they go on forever I see no reason to stop at 3 I just forgot the ellipsis

royal basin
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i caught onto your forgetting the ellipsis yes

timid silo
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oh wait nevermind I answered my own question

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that's like everything else, it HAS to be

royal basin
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it's a definition.

timid silo
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oh so an integer would be defined as any number that is not a fraction

royal basin
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eh.

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i think that's a bad definition.

timid silo
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what would be a better definition

royal basin
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rational numbers are fractions with an integer on the top and bottom

timid silo
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sorry for being obnoxious as well

royal basin
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idk maybe you don't want me to repeat myself

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maybe you want me to write things in a different way somehow

timid silo
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I don't know what I want I'm just trying to cover fundamentals of things I don't understand before I tackle bigger things

wanton hull
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quick question, we dont need to apply quotient rule while using l'opital's rule?

timid silo
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the definition of square root confuses me

median dome
wanton hull
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it was just a y/n question thats why i just asked it here sry

timid silo
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So the definition says a number which produces a specified quantity when multiplied by itself.

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like

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7 is the square root of 49

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my questions are

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  1. How would that be expressed (7 as the square root of 49)

  2. For example would 2 be the square root of 4 since 2x2 is 4 and that's a set quantity

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man I wish I could save this chat

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I'm gonna take some screenshots but my late class is over so I can't see the math I'm working with anymore

I'll try to be more descriptive tomorrow and this afternoon

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this helped though

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got my screenshots

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so why is Pi so significant

like how the hell does it do the things it does

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like finding measurements that it doesn't even concern itself with

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it just seems so random

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I've got some specific subjects now

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Field properties

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how do I use them?

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And what are they used for

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I think tomorrow I'll go through all of the lessons I've completed and send pictures and stuff here for better explanations

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with more concise questions

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thanks guys

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main goblet
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main goblet
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anybody know this one?

wanton hull
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wdym know this one

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what do we have to do with this random terms

golden oriole
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What is the question
Send full picture

timid silo
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We have to factor it

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Probably

main goblet
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oh welp nvm i already found the answer

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sorry

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grave flicker
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grave flicker
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I got this wrong I was wondering how to solve this problem

sage geode
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You can start by combining the logarithms

grave flicker
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Wait in what way>

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sage geode
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Recall that $\log{a} - \log{b} = \log{\frac{a}b}$

warm shaleBOT
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A Lonely Bean

grave flicker
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omg i forgot that

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So ln 3x+1/x+3

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as x approaches inf

supple granite
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consider it a composite function

sage geode
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Yeah, now, since ln is a continuous function, you can interchange the limit and the ln as long as the expression inside has a limit

supple granite
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of ln(x) and (3x+1)/(x+3)

grave flicker
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Wait so one second let me look at this for a second

grave flicker
sage geode
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$\lim_{x\to\infty}\ln{\frac{3x+1}{x+3}}=\ln{(\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{3x+1}{x+3})}$ as long as $\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{3x+1}{x+3}$ exists

warm shaleBOT
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A Lonely Bean

sage geode
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Now we need to evaluate the limit that I mentioned the last

grave flicker
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oh so you took out the ln

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so if i find the lim of inside function

supple granite
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let f(x)=ln{x} and g(x)=(3x+1)/(x+3)
the limit you're looking for is lim x->inf
f(g(x))

grave flicker
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I can take ln of that

sage geode
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Yes, thanks to the fact that ln(x) is a continuous function on its domain

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There are two ways to evaluate the limit of (3x + 1)/(x + 3)

grave flicker
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so the lim would be 3

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or ln(3)

sage geode
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  1. Divide top and bottom by x
  2. Rewrite the fraction as 3 - 8/(x + 3)
    (L'hopital's rule is also an option, but a whack one)
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The final answer is ln3, yup

grave flicker
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omg thx guys

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you helped me so much

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Next time i wont mess that up

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i appreciate it

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bright geyser
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how do i find a normal to a line

obtuse pebbleBOT
bright geyser
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vector form

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so normal to a line of like

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(0,0,0) + (1,1,1) * t

royal basin
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there are many vectors that are perpendicular to a given straight line.

bright geyser
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some

royal basin
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you want a vector that is perpendicular to (1,1,1)

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i.e. the direction vector of your line

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i.e. a vector (x,y,z) satisfying (1,1,1) · (x,y,z) = 0

bright geyser
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yeah

royal basin
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this is a system of 1 linear equation in 3 variables.

bright geyser
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ya

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i wouldnt know hwo to do that i thinkl

royal basin
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have you considered that perhaps you are overthinking it

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you yourself said you do not need to find all solutions but only one

bright geyser
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uh oph

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just sub

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select a x and y

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and find the z

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or smth

royal basin
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yes

bright geyser
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cheers

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it is late

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JRHJF

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worthy peak
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How do i find x

obtuse pebbleBOT
silent hatch
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@worthy peak

glossy basalt
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!nosols

obtuse pebbleBOT
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As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.

worthy peak
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either theres a miscalculation in my part or something is wrong

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my textbook ahve diff answers

glossy basalt
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yea, it's a miscalculation

worthy peak
silent hatch
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Did I do smth wrong?

glossy basalt
glossy basalt
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anyways, it's good process, but to further simplify it, actually it good to notice that it's a quadratic

silent hatch
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Btw, it won't equal 0 cause it just can't

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So the only answer is 1/2

glossy basalt
worthy peak
glossy basalt
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very first expression, it will make the whole thing shorter and easier to spot

worthy peak
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the -1/3 x^ (-2/3)

glossy basalt
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$x^{-\frac23}=(x^{-\frac13})^2$

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hmmm

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LaTeX down

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what i meant is
(x^(-2/3))=(x^(-1/3))^2

worthy peak
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ah got it

glossy basalt
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do tell if you need more help

worthy peak
glossy basalt
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yep

worthy peak
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then the inside i combine into one?

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actually not rlly sure abt the next step

glossy basalt
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did you get this:

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t(2/3-t/3)

worthy peak
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yes

glossy basalt
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then, since we don't have x in 3, we can multiply the 3 on both sides of the equation

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we have

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t(2-t)=0

worthy peak
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oh

glossy basalt
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then
t=0 or 2-t=0

worthy peak
glossy basalt
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t=0 or t=2

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then we plug back in the t=x^(-⅓)

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x^(-⅓)=0 or x^(-⅓)=2

worthy peak
glossy basalt
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for the first one
"since we cannot have any number x such that 1/(x)^⅓=0, therefore we have to reject this case"

worthy peak
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If the second?

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Where did i misscalculate

glossy basalt
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for the second one
t=2

1
_ = 2
x^⅓

x^⅓=½

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x=(½)³

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x=1/8

worthy peak
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oh

glossy basalt
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all good?

worthy peak
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one moment

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can u explain this

glossy basalt
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yea

worthy peak
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the only way i see this is cross multiplying

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and it doesnt equal to the below one

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oh

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nvm

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u removed the 2

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so it became half

glossy basalt
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1 2
_ = _
x^⅓ 1

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can you see it now?

worthy peak
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yeah