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thats what will happen if u do not take analysis 2
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im doing all stats modules next year
plus differential equations and groups and rings
is it like real?
if its like real i aint taking it
Depends on the place I think, for me analysis 2 was nicer than complex
Well at least in terms of learning it anyway lol
what does analysis 2 cover at your school anyway @silver plover
lets see
cuz groups and rings is easier
Beautiful 

its between this or group and rings
cuz im doing maths and stats
so i have to do stats modules + differential equations
we better not see you complaining about abstract algebra here 
if not
your helps will be answered with
lmao
"trivial"
...
that is worth taking tho
"exercise for the reader" 

anal2
like differentiation and integration is worth learning
dont you have a soul
dont you wanna go find some calc kids
and then go
proof:
for 2h
heres groups and rings
yep
Wonder if they cover PIDs, UFDs and the like
easier than real 2?
Euclidean domains 
err
honestly real analysis 1 is just hard because thats ur first exposure to analysis
once u get thru it
analysis 2 becomes MUCH easier to deal with because of your increased mathematical maturity
so seriously
dont be scared
it's genuinely genuinely worth taking it
the big struggle of analysis 1 is that it's your first proof based course
true tbh
so you have to learn to write proofs AND analysis at the same time
by now your mathematical maturity is quite sufficient and analysis 2 won't be so bad
it really builds on analysis 1
for example
we can use the algebraic limit theorem for sequences
to prove the algebraic limit theorem for functional limits
by characterizing how functional limits work as sequences
so don't waste your struggles in anal1
go forth and take it
seriously
you worked very hard to prove a bunch of things in analysis 1
and in 2 you get to taste the juicy fruits bore from the effort
you won't regret it
take analysis 2
ok if you take analysis 2
you will get help in
well as fast as possible

You won't be alone cause we love lurking 

i live for your analysis questions being opened in these channels
otherwise ill have to go look at a stats problem

now back to the list of angery emotes
if you dont take analysis 2




and of course
All posts you make will be instantly sullied 
^
the entire helper team will sully every post you make if you do not take analysis 2

fr tho
we'll help you
plus we do analysis bookclub in the secret vc which u can use now
plzzzzz
stats problems always get ignored
but ur analysis problems will always get jumped on to help
PIDs might be in algebra 2 for sa2017
what they described seems to be algebra 1
ok
i will consider it
.
do it
also
if u do analysis 2 u can do measure theory which can
really enlighten stats
fr
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What value should we take as 'x'?
I did not learn sets
that's an interval
I don't have time for this
Can I get to know what value we should take for'x'
That's it
watch it on 2x
x isn't a single number
you'd understand if you'd watch this
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Hey guys could someone help me with this pls?
So I've tried doing it normally... however, I have to do 1/2 CHOOSE 2
which my calculator gives as error
I've also tried using the formula
n!/r!(n-r)!
Still didn't work...
Any help would be great!
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Why would I immediately think of taylor expansion about 0 instead of binomial expansion
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sry wdym?
$\begin{pmatrix}1/2\2\end{pmatrix} = \frac{\frac{1}{2} \cdot(\frac12-1)}{2!} = -\frac{1}{8}$
Landau08
in analogy to, for instance, $\begin{pmatrix}4\2\end{pmatrix} = \frac{4\cdot 3}{2!}$
Landau08
see for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_theorem#Generalizations
In elementary algebra, the binomial theorem (or binomial expansion) describes the algebraic expansion of powers of a binomial. According to the theorem, it is possible to expand the polynomial (x + y)n into a sum involving terms of the form axbyc, where the exponents b and c are nonnegative integers with b + c = n, and the coefficient a of each ...
Newton was, I believe, the first to generalize the binomial theorem to fractional powers thereby anticipating Taylor's expansion in that special case
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There is a sign in the elevator that reads "6 people or 500 kg". What is the probability that the weight of 6 people will exceed 500 kg if the weight of a single person has a normal distributon N(75 kg; 10 kg)?
10kg standard deviation or 10kg variance?
variance
U need to *6 and then get the z score for 500 and do 1 - P(Z < z) since u want P(X>500)
the sum of all 6 is normally distributed
*6 arguemnts?
the distribution given is for 1 person
Ur curious about 6
So u gotta scale it appropriately
How do I scale it
just the normal rules for expectations and variances
theyre iid after all
independant identically distributed
Sorry heavytf2 I don't know the "normal rules"
then $var(\sum_{i = 1}^{n} X_i) = \sum_{i = 1}^{n} var(X_i)$
heavy
var meaning variance
and the expectation stays the same
well
it gets multiplied by 6
so you have total weight is a random variable thats N(75*6, 60) distributed
Why we got the var if we just created distribution with *6 arguments
I don't get what's going on
The distribution is for a single person
But since u want to care about 6, u need to multiply the mean and var by 6
this will make the distribution suited for 6 people now
So why did we mess with var?
because you need to know the variance of the total weight of 6 people
Don't I need to just get the area under the curve for this new distribution that we created?
Area to certain point ofc
yeah thats it
you cant normalize a distribution without thinking of var
ok what if I got other distribution? This "multiply arguments" methods works for them as well?
I always use this formula
the sum of exponentially distributed random variables is not exponentially distributed
The First one
but it is gamma distributed
for normally distributed random variables however
it does work
provided the random variables are iid
yes that works here
One more thing
Earlier, when I summed distributions, I needed to use an integral
"The random variable X has an exponential distribution with parameter λ = 2, a
the random variable Y has an exponential distribution with parameter μ = 10. It is also known that X and Y are independent. Determine the distribution density of the random variable Z = X + Y ."
Integral method always works and the scale args is just for normal distribution
Or how is that
iid?
independant identically distributed
ok, so when not sure - use integral method
exactly
np
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ACD=CAD=31.5
from triangle ABC angle ABC=ACB
the sum of angles in a triangle is 180 degrees, so ABC+BAC+ACB=180
ACB+(31.5*2)+ACB=180
ACB=58.5
BCD=ACB-ACD=58.5-31.5=27
woah?
Something wrong?
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I've tried to use the slope formula to solve this, like y2 - y1 over the time x2-x1. Then I set up a proportion for 1 hour, but when I substituted the numbers from the chart, it didn't really work out. I think the reason for this is because it's exponential functions, but I'm not too sure. If anyone could help, I'd be grateful!!
You are right. It's because it's an exponential decay
What do you think I should do first? I think I really do need some advice
it looks pretty linear to me
Look again. Rate of dropoff decreases over time.
barely
That's exponential decay
enough
First few drop-offs are 17
last are 11
That's a 35% difference
Quite significant
Also, the drop-off rate is always decreasing
If it were increasing and decreasing randomly, then I would argue linear
yeah i guess ur right
How were you modelling it linearly? Were you doing a best fit method?
I will admit though, the problem asking for "hourly rate" does kinda suggest linear tho
I wish it would "hourly rate of decay"
thats what i thought at first
@river ember what math class is this?
Algebra 1
ah
probably linear then
otherwise you need calculus
But you know about exponential functions
It's a weird problem
What's the context of your other problems. Have they all been linear or exponential?
have you seen exponential functions in class?
Kind of
im just gonna assume its linear
@river ember what were you using for y1 and y2
and x1 and x2
i would recommend using 0 hours and 4 hours to get the most accurate measurement
or if you know how to do linear regression that works as well
hopefully that’s enough to help bc i gotta walk my dog now hes barking at me
gl
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I need help with this integral
,, \int{e^{-t}sin(3t)dt}
AustinU
I have no paper w me but this integral screams IBP
I want to solve using euler's method, not by parts.
I can do it by parts
and at the final step, here is the graph
Showing the two do not differ only by a constant
but such a small difference makes me feel like I was close and only had a small mistake
so if anyone could point it out to me I would appreciate it
if my solution (the one on the right) had arctan of positive 3 instead of negative three then the only difference between the graphs is that one is a sine function and the other cosine
this could come from where I represented 3i-1 as e^(itheta)
possibly there is a mistake there?
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Honestly this looks like it screams laplace transform
well
I can do the integral
using by parts
I am just trying to use this method to solve it, and I know there is a way
but also I don't know how to do laplace transforms yet
either
Do you know some complex analysis or the leibniz rule?
Every easy way to solve this seems out of reach lol
Ohhhh
I see now
Integration by parts is an easy way to solve
just do by parts until you get the original
and then it will be /2
I know the solution
I’m not versed enough in the method you’re using to help too much, sorry
dang
thats okay
putting these back at the top
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TLDR: I am getting a slight phase shift in my solution, I need help in identifying my error. I know this can be solved using integration by parts, I am trying to use this method for practice. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
for the integral
,, \int{e^{-t}sin(3t)dt}
AustinU
i'm not entirely sure why you didn't continue from here
you almost have it
@fathom flicker
I did
did I go in the wrong direction?
I started getting a substitute for the fraction in terms of
e^(itheta)
what should I have done instead?
you should've multiplied with the complex conjugate
top and bottom
and seperated the exponential into the real number and the complex number
Okay, you're right that would work. I do believe that this method also works, do you see my error in doing it this way though?
you can then apply euler's formula again
because a+bi can be rewritten as re^(itheta)
so if I did it correctly it still should've worked out
@fathom flicker this is one reason why we discourage asking for help outside your channel
why?
you have someone helping you here while someone is already helping you in another channel
this person came from the other channel
where I asked for help
and 2 brains are better than 1
we'd rather not have someone waste time on a problem thats already being helped with
have you tried using the angle addition formula
I have not, but currently the two are not equal so applying an identity wont make them equal
so pls continue in only 1 channel
okay, how do I tell howl to help me in this channel without "advertising it in another channe;"
isn't austin just here now?
I am being helped in calculus aswell now
I asked in there again before you started helping me in here
ah ok
tell them to come to here
then we're all good
use the angle addition formula for sin
then use the relationship between the inverse trig functions and the trig functions
see what happens
at what step of my problem
should I use the angle addition formula
the very end?
in the sin you have at the end of the first page
okay
i'm looking at the identities and it's looking good
like you're getting the same result as the answer good
i mean its too late to worry about that. just keep it in mind for future reference, and i advise to get to know the rules in #❓how-to-get-help
only with this
okay so ignoring the denominator
I get
,, sin(-arctan(-3))cos(3t)+cos(-arctan(-3))sin(3t)
AustinU
^ thank you
I was about to ask about that
lol
when was I supposed to learn those identities?
just curious
you weren't
ah
but you weren't supposed to do it this way either 😄
wait
I have negative arctangent
do I just use that cos(-x)=cos(x) and sin(-x)=-sin(x)
arctan is
is that true
doing these kinds of problems
means you quickly become familiar with the wiki pages for trigonometric identities
ah so you just went and browsed for the right ones? or did you know these would be there already
i knew there is a formula for angle addition
well yah
don't remember what it is precisely
okay so I am getting
i know that arctan is antisymmetric
,, \frac{3}{sqrt(10)}cos(3t)+\frac{1}{sqrt(10)}sin(3t)
AustinU
and I should now do the same thing to the other side?
because I don't yet see how that is equivalent to -cos(3t-arctan(1/3))
where are you trying to take me to?
I have been trying to show the equivalency
what should I be doing
yes that is what I want to do
this
yes
one second let me gather my thoughts
ok
okay yes so the thing at the bottom of the page
got it
I was looking at the bottom of the other page
this
and they are similar
=
so it worked out
this
yah
by using those trig identities
you found that yes you got the right answer
that indeed the method you used was correct
they aren't the same?
computer doesn't always understand these functions perfectly
I am actually missing a negative sign
I probably just lost it
but
yes I did
found it
okay I see the equivalence now
so I was correct the whole time?
you were
🤣
well I'm really glad I spent an hour and 30 minutes to confirm that
lol
seriously thank you for the help though
ye
yes
Nope don't know anything about integrating using Euler's identity :catthink: something new to learn
it's something I learned in diffeq actually
or in a online diffeq lecture
I haven't really taken diffeq yet
well thank you guys for your time
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that looks tedious
I got:
g(x) = x^3 - x +9
g'(x) = 3x^2 - 1
h(x) = x*sqrt(x) + ln(x)
h'(x) = sqrt(x) + x/2sqrt(x)
It was 
h'(x) is wrong
- convert $x\sqrt{x} = x^{\frac{3}{2}}$
chartbit
Oh yeah didnt spot that either 🤦♂️
Is it incorrect if I dont do this
and just use product rule
You could use product rule of course, it will get you the same thing!
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can't figure out the blanks
i understand that the derivative of u is 6x-pi
but i'm not sure how to incorporate that into the substitution to get f(u)
So understand that the derivative of u is with respect to x
So you have du/dx = 6x - pi
So you can isolate dx to get $dx = \frac{1}{6x - \pi} \cdot du$
Alfie
correct yes
You can replace $3x^2 - \pi x + \pi$ with the definition of u
Alfie
and then replace dx with this definition
and the fraction will cancel out xs from the top
so you are left with the integral only in terms of u
okay you lost me there
So we have $\frac{12x - 2 \pi}{3x^2 - \pi x + \pi} \cdot dx$
Alfie
Alfie
Right?
yes
And we know $dx = \frac{1}{6x - \pi} \cdot du$
Alfie
So we can now write this as $\frac{12x - 2 \pi}{u} \cdot \frac{1}{6x - \pi} \cdot du$
right
Alfie
ahhhhh thats where the cross kicks in
Yeah, cancels out 
remember to rewrite your bounds in terms of u as well
you're integrating between 0 and 1 in terms of x. you're integrating between something else in terms of u.
yep looks correct 😄
ahhh okay
the cross is where it gets me
like getting to the cancellation
the step just before that
but i see that now its just combining the two
yes i recall that now
fully lost it until you helped me out there though
thank you very much
np 😄
ah wait
sorry so from here, do i just plug in my f(u), a and b into the integral and solve that?
then go back in terms of x based on the output
wait no
i just solve in terms of u and it should answer it
okok got it all good
thank you!!
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in this system of equation, the rank of the augmented matrix is 2 right? therefore it has infinitely many solutions?
0x+0y=0 (last row of the row enchlon matrix)
infinitely many solutions right?
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can you show your RREF ?
according to matlab, the last row is 0 0 0 1, which would be inconsistent
wait hold on
shouldn't your augmented matrix be 3x4?
like this: ```
1 1 -3 2
2 1 1 1
3 2 -2 0
And 3 equations so 3 rows
what are "-3z" and "z" and "-2z"
oh haha
They're very similar
ok, pls send the one you intended
ok
Also I only calculated REF not Reduced REF
I don't think it's needed for calculating the rank right
matlab agrees that the last row is 0 0 0
yeah you don't need to go all the way to rref
1.0000 0 0.6000
0 1.0000 0.2000
0 0 0
no, there are three equations and 2 unknowns
getting 0 0 0 for the last row just says that the equations are not inconsistent
so you can ignore the last row and focus on the first two: ```
1.0000 0 0.6000
0 1.0000 0.2000
this is the RREF so you can read off the solution directly
x = 0.6 and y = 0.2
unique solution
confused here
did you simply ignore the last equation? thats allowed?
if it's 0 0 0 then that is equivalent to 0x + 0y = 0
yes
a true equation but a useless one as it doesn't tell you anything
so in that case you can ignore it
if it had been instead:
0 0 1
that would mean 0x + 0y = 1
i.e. 0 = 1
which is impossible, hence that would mean there is no solution
so when a zero row exists in a augmented matrix of a system of equations, i cant say anything about how many solutions it has?
right, a zero row , say 0 0 0 in this case, just means
0x + 0y = 0
which is true for all x,y
it's equivalent to 0 = 0
so it doesn't tell you anything at all about x and y
yes
also Rank = number of unknowns so there exists exactly one unique solution
i think i got it thanks
when it is less, no solutions right?
no, it depends
if the equations are consistent, then rank < number of unknowns means there are infinitely many solutions
if the equations are inconsistent then there is no solution, regardless of the rank
sure
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I do not understand how the answer could be 1.5 and not -2.5
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,w 4.5^2-7*4.5+14
,w (2.75-2 )/ .5
Yes
yep!
Thx
np
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I'd love to help you, but it is very late at night for me, if you DM me this I will get you help / a solution in the morning
or keep waiting for others
hmm alright
ill dm before i sleep if i dont get anything from others or myself by then
ty!
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Im paying a loan $260000 at 2.36% interest which would make the A=468765.3033 monthly repayments should be 1562.551 (im not sure) i then want to pay an extra $250 a month from the get go i need to work out how much interest that cuts off and how much time
I need a formula aswell
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If a and b are well formed formulas, prove
- a and b are tautologically equivalent
- (a <-> b) is a tautology
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i have 32 students in my class, what is the possibility that 10% of them has the same birthday?
0?
it's just impossible, the number is not divisible by 10, 3.2 students would never have the same birthday
just so what is the possibilty that 3 students has the same birthday?
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do you have their specific ages because then we could count leap years as well
if it was in say 2020 the chance would be slightly lower due to the fact that there is an extra day
ignore the year
just the date
are we allowed to assume they are all the same age?
yes
in the sense that theyre born in the same year
same age and month, day is known
well you have to do case work for when the month is 30 or 31 days long
or 28/29 for february
you said same age and month so that means they all share a month of bdays
the chance of a student having the same date as the other is 1/ 365
unless im misinterpreting
well wouldnt it be 1/365² due to the fact that 1/365 is just having a specific date as a bday
there is 365 days so the possibility for 1 having the same birthday as other one is 1 in 365
so i need to calculate it for 32 students
yes
but theres a problem
u only checked for 1 student
u need to check for the entire class
each student with another student
it applies to any 3 students though
yes
do u want me to explain again?
I hve 32 students in my class, what is the chance that 3 of the students in my class share the same birthday
ignore the year
lets assume they are all born in the same year
In probability theory, the birthday problem asks for the probability that, in a set of n randomly chosen people, at least two will share a birthday. The birthday paradox refers to the counterintuitive fact that only 23 people are needed for that probability to exceed 50%.
The birthday paradox is a veridical paradox: it seems wrong at first glanc...
A silly question but why doesn't the probability depend upon the total number of students in the class? I've probably confused "possibility" and "probability".
I think OP was trying to ask the same thing.
i think i might have had the wrong approach
ah i see
i didnt consider the number of possible cases propperly
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Is the answer -root3/3<f(x)<root 3/3
I differentiated it at 0
And got in cos form
Solved for x value
I got pi/3
And input that into the formula to got output
And answer of Is the answer -root3/3<f(x)<root 3/3
For one, you can tell the range will have something like “0<=f(x) <= …” just by looking at the picture oh they only did it for a part, nvm me
,w sin(x)/(2-cos(x))
= as well but basically 
Tl;dr here
Oh okay still it's intresting to see it visually
Very cool!!!
Thank you!!!
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Because absolute value is lowest when the expression inside is 0
And you know it is lowest at x=9
So the inside expression must be 0
and x-9=0 at point x=9
hmm
wouldn't $(x/2 + 9/2)-3$ be the AB line so it should work by subbing y =0 on the equation?
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because there is one positive grad and one negative grad so its just 2 straight line equation
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/fsuvxulwnf Try this, observe what happens with the absolute value when you change the coefficients
but why doesn't $(x/2 + 9/2)-3$
yomiko
why doesn't it work
Because there needs to be -9/2
The blue line is the one you proposed, and the red is the actual absolute value
Absolute value has minimum when the expression inside=0
in this case the expression inside is x+b, and you know that it equals 0 when x=9. (By point A) So 9+b=0, solve for b and b=-9
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what have you tried
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I can do a taylor series of one function
And I know what it is for cos
But I don't know how to do this
For multivariable functions, it's the same, you're just differentiating wrt each variable
First order taylor uses both first order partial derivatives, second order uses all second order partial derivatives, etc
Okay so, it's going to be 1 + jacobin + hessian?
Pretty much
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please explain the whole problem (11 and 10)
for (11) there are 3 right angled triangles. Apply Pythagoras theorem formula on the smaller triangle to the left to get the unknown side in terms of 'x'.
Once you get that, apply Pythagoras theorem formula on the triangle to the right to get the other unknown side.
Then apply Pythagoras formula on the big outer triangle. You would get a quadratic in x and can solve for x
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i’m getting 7/6
but answer is supposed to be 5/6
do you guys know why?
i did right- left
it’s problem 3in the worksheet
the one you shaded is right
you need to find that point of intersection
and do 2 separate integrals
(0,0) and (1,1)
why two?
is that right though 
because for the first half of the region you want the area under x^2, and for the second half of the region you want the area under x+y=2
,w x^2 +x -2 = 0
i see
wait should it be from -2 to 1 in my integral?
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How would I calculate the complexity of the following algorithm? (in python)
if x == 0:
return y+1
elif y == 0:
return f(x-1, 1)
else:
return f(x-1, f(x, y-1))
i forgot how to do it
#old-network for cs server
or find the python one
"cs"?
computer science
ah
don't know which link actually
top or bottom
oh it's the top one:
https://discord.gg/eF3Wjsd
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I'm having trouble understanding this logic. This is my interpretation:
If p is true, q is true = p is false or q is true
p: I press the power button
q: The computer turns off
p->q if i press button, computer turns off
is the same as
i dont press button or computer turns off
it makes no sense
unless the V means "either or" and not just "or"
so it becomes either i dont press button or computer turns off
can someone confirm this?
erm take it by each case
also i dont like your q because not q is the computer turning on which is something that the power button does
take if its raining outside then i have an umbrella
where p is if its raining
and q is if u have an umbrellla
not p is if its not raining
so the statement: its not raining outside or i have an umbrella can only be false if its raining and you dont have an umbrella
u feel me
Yeah, that makes much more sense. Thanks for explaining!
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this question has a range of {1.3 ≤ x ≤ 1.75}
What I would do is just set an inequality up
Hmm but might be really messy
Actually just solve for x when the volume is 300 more, and 900 more
You’ll get a quadratic
i had to figure out the range values which is x cant be under 1.3 or over 1.75 if it is you get over 900 or under 300
but i wasnt sure if thats all it wanted
what do u mean for this?
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That's fking easy
See this
You need to compute for two different cubic equations
(x+3)(x+5)(x+11)=900
(x+3)(x+5)(x+11)=300
Solve them and find the value of 'x' from both of them
then set the lowest value of 'x as the lower boundary
and the highest as the higher boundary
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what am I doing wrong here?
What have u got so far
i found |v| which is 5 through sqrt 3^2+4^2
then subbed it into |u||v|cos(0)
so its |u| x 5 x cos60=0
that gives me 5/2 move to other side 2/5
but the answers 4


