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unborn canyon
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i looked at the answer key

tardy epoch
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expand (1+h)^6

unborn canyon
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but i dont wanna

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whats the fast way to do it

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or is that the only way

tardy epoch
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write it as a derivative

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lots of ways

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whether or not you know the techniques is up to you

unborn canyon
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so just use the limit defiinition of the derivative?

warm canopy
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It could be sideways 8?

tardy epoch
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yes. usually you should use the definitions

tardy epoch
unborn canyon
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thanks

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x^6 is the f(x) and 6x^5 is the derivative bc power rule right

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or am i being dumb

tardy epoch
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,w differentiate x^6

unborn canyon
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yea im right

tardy epoch
unborn canyon
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im so smart

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but hows the answer 6

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im still not following that

stable rain
tardy epoch
warm shaleBOT
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riemann

unborn canyon
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im so dumb 😭

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i stlil dont get it

tardy epoch
unborn canyon
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thts how i found the x^6

warm canopy
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But there are no x's in the limit nootlikethis nootlikethis nootlikethis

unborn canyon
tardy epoch
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write your fraction as the fraction inside the limit

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with your f(x) = x^6

unborn canyon
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im failing this exam

thick roost
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🤨

unborn canyon
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(this is practice sheet)

shadow oriole
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That's the wrong way to do the question. If you plug in 0, you get 0/0, which is an indeterminate form. Therefore you're going to need to apply l'Hopitals rule.

tardy epoch
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ignore them

unborn canyon
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ik

tardy epoch
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write this for f(x) = x^6

unborn canyon
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brb

tardy epoch
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as another hint: 1^6 = 1

unborn canyon
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i give up

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im expanding it

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o

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i got it now

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thanks

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tardy epoch
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that was fast expansion

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mild slate
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help

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warm shaleBOT
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cyanometer

mild slate
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I would like help verifying the identity.

fierce lagoon
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Break tan^2(x) into a fraction

mild slate
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yeah, let me show you where I am at now.

warm canopy
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Probs better to move sin to left and tan to right

fierce lagoon
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They're trying to prove that the LHS = RHS

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not solve for x

warm canopy
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You do what I said and you can use pythagoras

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Without having to mess around

mild slate
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I feel like I might be making this more difficult than it is now.

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$((1+cos2x)/2)-((1-cos2x)/1+cos2x)$

warm shaleBOT
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cyanometer

mild slate
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That looks bad but I canceled out the 1+cos2x.

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I have no idea how to turn the lhs into the rhs using identities.

fierce lagoon
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Actually

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It's a lot easier to turn the RHS into LHS

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2 = 1 + 1

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Literally no joke

mild slate
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hmm. let me try it out.

fierce lagoon
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$$(1 - \sin^2(x)) + (1 - \sec^2(x))$$

warm shaleBOT
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Umbraleviathan

warm canopy
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The trick on the other side is 0=1-1

fierce lagoon
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You're 1-1

warm canopy
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Take it back

mild slate
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lol

fierce lagoon
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No, I won't

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Fight me bitch

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You're 1-1

mild slate
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oh shit

warm canopy
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@moderators

mild slate
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I'm still lost. I'm missing some fundamental knowledge about how this works.

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placid nova
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why is my Y not 0? if x^2 + y^2 = Z^2

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placid nova
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and my Z which 7.5/cos(pi/3) is 7.5

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so isnt Y = z-x

timber fox
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how would y be 0 if there is angle theta?

high lily
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and my Z which 7.5/cos(pi/3) is 7.5
how are you getting 7.5 for z from that

timber fox
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lol

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I see the problem

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put your calculator in radian mode

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and from now on always work in radians and make your life easy :))

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@placid nova what do you get for z now

placid nova
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LOLL

timber fox
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degree * pi/180 to convert from degrees to rad

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otherway around for rad to degree

high lily
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or don't use a calc for this at all

timber fox
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true

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forest epoch
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whatup

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forest epoch
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how is what i did wrong?

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@forest epoch Has your question been resolved?

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@forest epoch Has your question been resolved?

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primal idol
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How do i sketch #22?

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I absolutely have no idea of how I should do it.

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There's not one single example in my textbook.

fierce lagoon
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Mfw spiral

obtuse pebbleBOT
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primal idol
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I'll try

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<@&286206848099549185>

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zenith raft
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:c

timid silo
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How would I figure out the function for this problem?

zenith raft
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try not to tag helpers too early 😭

timid silo
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:||

hazy vine
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by looking at the table it is possible to see that this is a linear equation of form mx+b

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do you get that?

timid silo
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Nope

solar hornet
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I guess in the context of this assignment you are talking about linear functions only?

hazy vine
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ok so here you can see that every times x increments by 1 y decreases by 3

timid silo
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Ohhhh

hazy vine
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oh fair

timid silo
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I’m not sure on how to write out the formula

zenith raft
timid silo
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Y= x+3?

hazy vine
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alright I'll guess you never saw the formula to find the slope

hazy vine
timid silo
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Damn

solar hornet
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aight. I wanted to give something more general, but it's usually best to consider the context of what that assignment is

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maybe teacher expects a system of equations with standard formula for linear

hazy vine
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so here lets start by finding m

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so can you agree with me that for each x going up by 1 there's 3 y going down

timid silo
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Yes I agree

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And I see that

hazy vine
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ok here so what would you multiply x with for it to match y decreasing every time

timid silo
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Would it be a -3

hazy vine
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yep

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so this is what is commonly called the slope

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and in our y=mx+b function would be the m

timid silo
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1?

hazy vine
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what is 1?

timid silo
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Y=1x+-3

hazy vine
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nop

timid silo
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Oof

hazy vine
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mb that was rude lol

timid silo
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It’s okay lol

hazy vine
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but basically you multiply x by -3 right?

timid silo
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Yes

hazy vine
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so it would be the m

timid silo
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X

hazy vine
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so we would have -3x+b

timid silo
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Oh

hazy vine
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now

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the b would be the value of y when x =0

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this is because suppose when x =0, y=-3*0+b

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so y=b when x=0

timid silo
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I’m slowly understanding

hazy vine
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oh are you struggling with something that I've said before?

timid silo
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No , I just gotta practice a bit more so I can really begin to understand

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thank you so much 😊

hazy vine
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alright well

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let's finish this by finding what would be the value when x=0?

timid silo
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B

hazy vine
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yes

timid silo
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Yay

hazy vine
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but do it step by step

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like

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x=4 y=9, x=3 y=12...

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until you get to x=0

timid silo
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Okay

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Interesting

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finite loom
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does anyone know the formula for finding a certain term of binomial expansion

finite loom
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for example (x+y)^8

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is the formula like

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n choose k?

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where k is 1 less than the 3rd number

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and then (x)^blank and (y)^blank

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where u would find blank by

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thats where im confused how du u find blank 😭

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ohhh wait

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is it that the 7 term just equals what k is

civic zealot
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,w binomial theorem

finite loom
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i see

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but

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isnt that a diff formula frm the term

civic zealot
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the sum on the right is the sum of the terms

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starting with the first term at k=0

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second term is k=1
third is k=2
.... etc

finite loom
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yep

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but im trying to find like

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a certain term

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not the sum

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3rd term of (x+y)^8

timid silo
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the (r+1)th term will be (n_C_r)x^(n-r)y^r

civic zealot
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if you don't use the sum, those are the terms

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every term of the binomial expansion is nCk * x^k * y^(n-k)

warm shaleBOT
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What the hell am I doing here?

finite loom
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so thats the formula

pine sail
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This is term number k+1

finite loom
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wait does

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(a+b)^n = (n choose k) (a^(n-k)(b^k) work

pine sail
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You're missing a sum symbol

finite loom
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Why do i need a sum symbol if im trying to find a term 😭

pine sail
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(a+b)^n is the sum of all such terms

zenith raft
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the binomial theorem tells you all the terms, so if you want one in particular, it tells you it

pine sail
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(a+b)^n isn't just one term

finite loom
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yeah

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but u can get 1 term out of it

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right?

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if u plug in the right numbers

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like

pine sail
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yes, like I mentioned above.

finite loom
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wait so why do i need the sum symbol

pine sail
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You only need the sum symbol if you need (a+b)^n

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You don't need the summation, if you need one term out of (a+b)^n

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But you wouldn't write (a+b)^n = that particular term

civic zealot
# finite loom wait so why do i need the sum symbol

you don't. The theorem gives you the sum of the general formula for the terms
so each term of the binomial sum is given
if you just don't use the sum, and use the term formula shown you have the formula for term you want

pine sail
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Rather (a+b)^n is the sum of all such terms.

finite loom
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oh

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so i would write'

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term = (n choose k)(a^(n-k)(b^k)?

pine sail
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yeah

finite loom
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ah

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okay so n represents

pine sail
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Also, it matters which term you're talking about

finite loom
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the number of term right

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like the expansion term

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in (x+y)^8 n = 8

pine sail
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yeah.

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If you need term number 5 then k = 4

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Term number 9 would be k = 8.

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You get it, right?

finite loom
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yee i learnt that k is always 1 less than the term u need

pine sail
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n doesn't represent the number of terms btw.

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In the expansion of (x+y)^n you'll actually have n+1 terms. Not n terms.

finite loom
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ok wth

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Why is it N+1

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i feel like sequences/series is trying to kill me

pine sail
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The theorem tells us.
You've known it all along. (x+y)^2 isn't x^2 + y^2 is it? It's x^2 + 2xy + y^2

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For n = 2, you've always used 3 terms. And now you're asking why is it n+1, strange.

finite loom
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o

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okay yeah i knew n doesnt represent the number of terms

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but n represents

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the expansion number right

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in (x+y)^8 n =8

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its always the expansion number

pine sail
finite loom
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aight

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okay so

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k = 2

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because 3 is the term

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but - 1 so 2

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so

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8 choose 2

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x^6

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y^2

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ah i see

pine sail
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sure.

finite loom
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I had one more question 🙂

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So

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They want me to find the coeffecient which is a

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of the term z^6

pine sail
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let z^2 = x and -1 = y
z^6 = x^3
So you need the term when you have x^3
The Exponent of x is given by n-k. You know n already, so get x.

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Then later, sub the values back.

finite loom
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okay i understand z^2 = x

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and -1 = y

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im confused why ur substituting tho

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is there a diff way

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i feel like thats too complicated for me

pine sail
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Yes you don't need any x or y. But either way you need to figure "k" out.

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Since once you know that, you're essentially done.

finite loom
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wait what formula am i using

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for this problem

pine sail
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You tell me?

finite loom
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(n choose k) (a^(n-k)(b^k)?

pine sail
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yep.

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But you need k.

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As you can see, z^2 is your "a"

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And -1 is "b"

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It's just comparison.

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So that we know what terms to use, right.

finite loom
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yes

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i understood making it a and b

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so does n equal 12 still

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yeh

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n is always that number

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wait isnt k

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just

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the value of the b term exponent

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ok nvm

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excuse my dumbness

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thats literally in the formula

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umh

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soo

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so how do we find k lmao

pine sail
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I told you how already.

warm shaleBOT
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What the hell am I doing here?

finite loom
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ahh im looking throug all the msgs

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OH WAIT

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BRO IM STUPID

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okay so

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the power of z

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has to be equal to 6 right

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so that must mean

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it has to be 3

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because theres already a square

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okay so

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n = 12

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12 - k = 3

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k = 9?

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right?

pine sail
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yep. Sure.

finite loom
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Tysm

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ahh i have an exam tmrw but i just am failing all this stuff somehow

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next reef
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I suppose it's the AM GM Inequality

tender jewel
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what that

zenith raft
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i think i see a simple proof by contradiction

quaint glen
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either a>b or a<=b

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Well we've had 3 different methods suggested which is probably confusing so I'll leave this one lol

tender jewel
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its contradiction

tender jewel
zenith raft
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lol

tender jewel
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SORRY CAPS

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sorry caps

zenith raft
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honestly rather someone else explain so i can sleep, sorry :c

tender jewel
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its all good

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hey can anyone explain pls

zenith raft
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@quaint glen wanna join again? 🙂

thorn stag
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Assume it isnt, square both sides |a^2| /leq |ab| and divide by a. Do the same for the other side. a /leq b or b /leq a is true for all positive integers.

tender jewel
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um whats /leq

quaint glen
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$\leq$

warm shaleBOT
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Sneaky

tender jewel
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ohnok

tender jewel
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but it wants me to use contradiactoin

next reef
# tender jewel what that

It's a classic theorem in algebra that says arithmetic mean of n positive real numbers is greater than or equal to their geometric mean.

thorn stag
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Yes then assume it isnt and prove that its a contradiction. If a and b are positive integers, then they can be equal or one can be greater than the other.

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tender jewel
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idk what to do tbh

tender jewel
thorn stag
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$|a| \leq |b| \lor |b| \leq |a|$. Assume that this isnt true by taking the negation. $|a| > |b| \land |b| > |a|$. Let a=b so the negated inequality is a contradiction.

warm shaleBOT
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SirMonkey

zenith raft
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still no

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but i’m going to bed fr this time

elfin dune
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Layla is right

tender jewel
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why doesit not work?

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waht about this one thoug

elfin dune
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wait no

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forget it

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I'm sleepy, but trust Layla

tender jewel
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but they went to sleep as well

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😢

novel knoll
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Lets prove a<=0 or b<=0 using his method: Assume it isn’t by taking the negation. a>0 and b>0. Let a=b=0 so the negated inequality is a contradiction.

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Notice a problem?

thorn stag
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Literally no

tender jewel
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cus if a=b then the original euqation works

thorn stag
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Yes but in the proof by contradiction, it doesnt work so the original statement is true.

tender jewel
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yerah i was agreeing with u

thorn stag
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Yeah ik im just referencing the other post

thorn stag
novel knoll
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You haven’t shown anything just like I haven’t shown a<=0 or b<=0

thorn stag
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novel knoll
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So prove a<=0. So multiply both sides by 0 so 0<=0

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This is true so we done

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Don’t assume what you want to prove

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@half veldt Has your question been resolved?

half veldt
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No

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devout jolt
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All you gotta do is work out the volume of the large cube(VLarge) and the volume of the small cube(VSmall) and subtract VSmall from VLarge

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You have the height width and depth of the large cube, and the height width and depth of the small cube

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(8x11x11)-(5x5x8) where x means multiply

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copper spade
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Won't this be vector C x vector A?

cedar mantle
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yes

copper spade
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Oki

cedar mantle
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are those allen notes?

copper spade
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Nope

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Ncert

cedar mantle
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oh lol

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okie

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Hehe

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hybrid tartan
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for Q2(a)(v) what type of probability would it be, independent or dependent?

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As i need to find P(AnB)

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Some context on what im trying to do

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Let $a_0$ be any real number. Then define the sequence $a_n$ such that $a_{n+1} = \sqrt{a_n}$. It's easy to see that for any positive real, this quantity goes to 1, as it is an attractive fixed point.

Consider now the sequence $b$, with $0<b_0<1$, and $b_{n+1} = (b_n)^2$. It's easy to see that this sequence always goes to 0.

What is the algebraic difference between the equations $x=\sqrt{x}$ and $x=x²$? Why is 1 the attractive fixed point for rooting but 0 the attractive fixed point for squaring? My guess is due to the concavity of the functions but I'm not too sure how to make this a rigorous argument.

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Also a more general question: when a function has multiple fixed points, how do you determine which one is attractive over what interval?

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sqrt has the property that it makes numbers greater than 1 smaller, and it makes numbers less than 1 bigger

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squaring has the opposite property

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Yeah true. How do you determine which fixed point of a function is attractive tho?

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well you can argue as follows

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for square root, the property i noted above implies that if you start with a number less than 1, and repeatedly take square roots, you get an increasing sequence

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that sequence is bounded above (by 1) so it converges

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similarly if you start with a number greater than 1, and repeatedly take square roots, you get a decreasing sequence

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that sequence is bounded below (by 1) so it also converges

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so no matter where you start, you get a convergent sequence

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to find the limit (call it $L$), start with $x_{n+1} = \sqrt{x_n}$ and take the limit of both sides as $n \to \infty$ to obtain $L = \sqrt{L}$ (we have used continuity of sqrt)

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squaring both sides yields $L^2 = L$, or $L^2 - L = 0$, or $L(L-1) = 0$, hence $L$ is either 0 or 1

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it can't be 0 because of the previously observed properties about increasing and decreasing sequences

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so L=1

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you can make a similar argument for squaring

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the difference being that in the case of squaring, if you start with a number larger than 1 and repeatedly square it, you get an increasing unbounded sequence, so that doesn't converge

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whereas if you start with a number less than 1 then you get a decreasing sequence, which you can show converges to 0 using the same method i used above

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Right, that's a good way to reason about it. But consider for a moment a process more general than squaring or rooting. Let's say we have a function with some number of fixed points. How do you determine which of those are attractive over what intervals?

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well the banach fixed point theorem is one tool

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in general i'm not sure if there is a single universally applicable method that will tell you all the fixed points

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I don't think you quite understand what I'm asking here

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If the fixed points of a function are given, then which of those are attractive over what intervals?

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Wait actually

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I think the Banach theorem might be what I'm looking for?

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Let me read through it lol

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in general i think the behavior can be quite complicated. check out the wikipedia page for "attractor / basins of attraction", see this example in particular:

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In the mathematical field of dynamical systems, an attractor is a set of states toward which a system tends to evolve, for a wide variety of starting conditions of the system. System values that get close enough to the attractor values remain close even if slightly disturbed.
In finite-dimensional systems, the evolving variable may be represente...

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Woah

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Ok yeah this looks fun

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Strange how I can't find much on it though, maybe I'm not using the right terminology

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yeah i'm not sure about what terminology to search for either, i don't know much about dynamical systems

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i think the concept you're after is "basin of attraction of a fixed point", searching for that shows some interesting MSE posts at least

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how

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$-cot2x$ to $tan(-pi/2+2x)$

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how we do this

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pls

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-cot(2x) or -cot^2(x)?

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Try using the tan(2x) identity

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cot(2x) is the reciprocal of tan(2x)

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u mean 2tanx/1-tan²x ?

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Well whatever the identity got tan(2x) is

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what

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@fierce lagoon wdy

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wdym

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I hope to god you know how to raise things to the -1 power

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i dont understand english

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Translate it then

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it didn't translate good

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you mean to do ^-1 ?

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Yes

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cot(2x) = (tan(2x))^-1

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so its 1/tan2x

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Yeah but use the tan(2x) identity

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1/2tanx/1-tan²x

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Simplify that

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by doing sin/cos or

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I gtg but hopefully someone can take over

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tan(2x-pi/2)=-sin(pi/2-2x)/cos(pi/2-2x)=-cos(2x)/sin(2x)=-cot(2x)

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Divisor reciprocates to multiplier

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I have no idea what that means

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You know about reciprocals of fractions?

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No im lost

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A fraction's reciprocal is basically just itself upside down

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5/18 and 18/5

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Alr i got that

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Example ^

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It even works with fractions: $\frac54 \div \frac67 = \frac54 \times \frac76$

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So its like switching it aroujd?

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2 time something over something

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Anyone knows why -3+4i = 4i²+4i+1 ?? Is there a trick to it?? Because in the right form i can factor it and use the square root of it..

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4i^2 is just -4

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it's just completing the square, you halve and square 4i

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ok but is there some sort of algorithm to come from -3+4i to 4i²+4i+1? or do i need to see something like that?

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You’re talking about i as in the imaginary number right?

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yes

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You just have to know that it is the square root of -1

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So squaring it gives -1

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Am I missing something

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Why does he need to complete the square?

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thats how u get from left to right

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Oh he’s going backwards

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which was his question

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Mb

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ok is this using Gaussian Prime Factorizationß

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?

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it has nothing to do with gaussian primes

do you know the complete square technique to factoring quadratics? you're doing the same thing

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I only know how to complete the square in the form of x²+bx+c . I dont have a square to begin with

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i only have -3+4i

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or do I just add 4i²on both sides?

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well it's the same form, halving 4i then squaring it gets you the expression on the right

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ahh now i got it. ty so much

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Hi

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I don't understand linear equations

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the number of people seated is 120

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so 120 = 2x + 4y

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Oh

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but without more info idk if you can solve for either

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you can express one in the other

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can someone please help me with this

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ln2sinx=3ln(cos2x+2)

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This

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Idk what to do next

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yeah

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thinkingbread lots of options

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one could be to use log(xy) = log(x) + log(y) and double angle for cosine

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I'm not suppose to use a calculator also

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nothing i said involves a calculator

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is the formula used above a viable formula too or should is the log x +log y one better

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Sorry I just wanted to make sure I said that because the hw question is suppose to be solved without it

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you can get rid of logs in the first step by bringing the 3 into the exponent

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3^2

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xlog(y) = log(y^x) then you set the arguments of the log to each other

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so you're saying 2log3(2sinx)=log3(cos2x+2)

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Wait is what is written correct then or did I accidentally mess up

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not at all

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I think it should be fine

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I used change of base and stuff

tardy epoch
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right hand side can be written as 3log(stuff) = log(stuff^3)

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log(2x+2)^3

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Sorry I haven't used that log change rule before

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i use log for natural log

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oh ok

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ln2sinx=ln((cos2x+2)^3)

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so is that what you mean then?

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yes

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so you have if log(stuff1) = log(stuff2) then stuff1 = stuff2

tardy epoch
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ok so ln(2sinx)=ln((cos2x)^3)+ln(2^3)

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ad then would I be able to divide everything by ln

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you have some algebra mistake somewhere

rapid relic
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wait so what am I missing out on

tardy epoch
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(x+y)^3 is not x^3 + y^3

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,calc (1+1)^3

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Result:

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,calc 1^3 + 1^3

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Result:

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ok so ln(2sinx)=ln(cos2x)^3+ln(2)^3

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Wait mb is that correct

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$3\log(\cos(2x)+2) = \log((\cos(2x)+2)^3)$

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riemann

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write out (a+b)^3

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oh so we have to do (a^3+3a^2*b+3ab^2+b^3)

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mb

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ln(2sinx)=ln(cos2x^3)+ln(3*cos2x^2*2)+ln(3*cos2x*2^2)+ln(2^3)

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is that what we have to do

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how would we expand cos2x^3

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would it be cos8x

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Dicothomy algorithm i dont understand why if its 7 the number you receive when the algorithm goes on until the end without finding x is 3 etc

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How would I find the missing sides (visually)

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You can’t get the missing sides visually, you’ll need to use what the tick marks tell you

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Each mark is x

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i don't understand how to relate this one

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okay

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so whats the perimeter in terms of x and y

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2(x+y)?

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yeah

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and we now substitute 1331/x for y

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so now our function is f(x)=2(x+1331/x)

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ok

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i'll try that

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and we want to minnimize the perimeter so we are finding the local minnimum of f(x)

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first derivative test?

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yeah

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can i multiply by x first?

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or i can leave the 2 outside of the derivative

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2*(1-1331/x^2)

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that's my derivative

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it's zero at 36.48

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What did you put for left endpoint and why

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How do I sketch the graph of y=sinx+sqrt3 cosx

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If we are given the vector field in the image, would taking the curl (which is zero) be enough to prove its conservative? Our book says that a vector field is conservative in star-shaped field if curl is zero, but that is not star-shaped since x or y cant be 0?

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How do I solve for x?

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If ab = 0 then either a or b or both are zero. In this case, 2e^x can't be zero. Meaning 1-2e^x = 0.
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can somebody explain how he got the formula here?

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im watching an online lecture on series and he didnt quite xplain how he got the formula for summation n

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Very standard result

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Try proving it using induction for example

craggy stag
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whats induction..?

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there's a less mysterious to get it that might be better, especially if you don't know induction

craggy stag
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how would one do that

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i'll try my best here

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we'll compute 2S_n:
1 + 2 + 3 + ... + (n-1) + n +
n + (n-1) + (n-2) + ... + 2 + 1

we just switched the order of the lists in the second row (each row is a copy of S_n)
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and so on

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each of these are equal to n + 1

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and there are n of them in total

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so the whole sum is n(n+1)

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and that's 2S_n

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so S_n = n(n+1)/2

craggy stag
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why is it 2S_n?

zenith raft
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if we can compute that, we know S_n after

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soooo why is it?

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just cus it's something we can compute easier

craggy stag
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but wouldnt that just be 2 + 4 + 6 ... and s on?

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or like why wouldnt it be

zenith raft
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yea it would

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but it's also S_n + S_n

craggy stag
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so, the 2S_n is more or less slapped in there for the sake of conveniency?

zenith raft
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sure haha

frozen vapor
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how would the number of n+1 terms equal n/2?

frozen vapor
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consider n = 5

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1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5

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(this is odd, even is easier to understand)

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so keep the middle term, 3 aside for a while, you have 1 2 4 5

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pair them up 1 + 5, 2+4

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so there are two of these pairings

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which can be understood that for n, there will be n-1/2 pairings (for 5, 5-1/2 = 2 pairs)

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and each of these pairs sum to n+1, so the total pairings sum is (n+1)(n-1)/2

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the middle term we kept aside is nothing but n+1/2

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(n+1)(n-1)/2 + (n+1)/2

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take n+1/2 common

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which gives (n+1)/2 x (n-1+1)

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which is the answer n(n+1)/2

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for even terms, you dont need to deal with the extra middle term since the pairings nicely add upto n/2 number of terms

craggy stag
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i got to (n+1)(n-1)+(n+1)/2

frozen vapor
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you're taking n+1/2 common so there will be n-1 in the first one and just 1 in the second

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which sums upto n-1 + 1

craggy stag
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(n+1)(n-1)+1/2?

frozen vapor
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no i mean (n+1)/2 common

craggy stag
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im not getting it

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wdym common? i understand there 2 (n+1)'s but what exactly happens to them

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@craggy stag Has your question been resolved?

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hi

obtuse pebbleBOT
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i dont quite understand

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the correct answer should be C meaning the number itself is a fraction… if say 1/3 is flipped how is it greater than four

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it^

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actually no not b. the only logical one would be C but i don’t understand how

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wait

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djdfjdjrjr you’re right

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😭nvm

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thanks for answering i forgot how fractions worked

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hey all

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in need of some assistance with q19

merry geode
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well i'm not sure how to approach proving the geometric series

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because it seems to me as though z1 and z2 are the same

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so how can i actually prove that they have any sort of order behind them

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by that i mean, nothing in the question shows any difference between z1 and z2

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all we know is that z1z2 is equal to (z3)^2

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so i think i'm just getting lost in the wording

merry geode
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For example, z1=1, z2=e^(i pi)

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You will get a z3

gritty carbon
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but with that example

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you could also say

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z1 = e^(i pi) and z2 = 1

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and that would mess with the series wouldn't it

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because they want it in the exact order

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r1, r3, r2

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i can show you the answers

merry geode
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In this example, r1, r2 and r3 are 1

gritty carbon
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not 100% certain on how it works

merry geode
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So its still a series

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Geometric

gritty carbon
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it's still a series yes

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but the order would change no?

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and they want it in a specific order

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one sec

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uploading

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not too familiar with what the series is in $\frac{r1}{r3} = \frac{r3}{r2}$ as well

warm shaleBOT
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splooze

merry geode
merry geode
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how is it a series though?

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ah

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silly question

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jesus

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okay

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i'm a little confused with the last part

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the bisect angle part

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does bisect mean it will cut directly through the middle?

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yes

gritty carbon
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okay

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yeah i think i got it, thanks guys

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low frost
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Need help solving all equations. For question 1/4 where it says solve for the unknown values I believe y= 45 and x= 85. And for the rest I need a direction on how to solve them. I sort of understand how to solve question 3/4 but i need some direction on that one too. Question 4 I believe is 67° and I don’t know about question 2.

gritty carbon
low frost
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so in question 3/4

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if we know that all those angles add up to 180

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write an expression that would state it clearly

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an equation*

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something along the lines of

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(the sum of all this) = 180

low frost
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Ok

gritty carbon
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do you have an idea?

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or need a bit more help

low frost
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I think I can do it

gritty carbon
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write down the equation here

low frost
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79° + x + 43° + x + 66° = 180°

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?

gritty carbon
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bang on

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there's no need to write the degrees symbol btw haha

low frost
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Okay

gritty carbon
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so

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you have a nice equation there

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now simplify it

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collect like terms

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all that good stuff=

low frost
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188 + 2x = 180

gritty carbon
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yep

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do you know how to solve for x here?

low frost
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Pretty sure x would be -4

gritty carbon
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yep

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looks good

low frost
gritty carbon
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with this question

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you wrote down 53 degrees for ACB

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which is not correct

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53 degrees is for which angle?

low frost
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I rewrote it to 67° if that helps at all

gritty carbon
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yes 67 is right

low frost
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Okay

gritty carbon
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know what to do with this?

low frost
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Not at all

gritty carbon
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okay

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this is the order of what we need to do

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We want to find the angle of ABC first

low frost
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Okok

gritty carbon
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what do you think that is?

low frost
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Hm

gritty carbon
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here's a hint

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see that blue line

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what's the angle of a straight line? for example

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if we had

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imagine the blue line is straight

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and the black line is a little circle

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a perfect circle

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what would be that angle

low frost
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360°?

gritty carbon
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here's an image of a compass

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if we start at 0 degrees

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and go 360 degrees

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that would get us right back to where we started

low frost
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Yes

gritty carbon
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notice how it's only half a circle

low frost
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Yes

gritty carbon
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if a full revolution of circle is 360 degrees

low frost
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So we would only go 180

gritty carbon
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and that's half a circle

low frost
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Degrees

gritty carbon
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exactly

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the most important thing for you to know is this

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an angle on a straight line is 180 degrees

low frost
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Okay

gritty carbon
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so notice how those two angles add to 180 degrees

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so in this case

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We have a straight line

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and we know part of the angle on that straight line

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and with that information, we can find out the other part

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because an angle on a straight line is how many degrees?

low frost
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180

gritty carbon
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right

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so what do you think angle ABC is

low frost
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Ummmmmm

gritty carbon
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just to confirm

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do you know what angle i'm talking about

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when i say

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angle ABC

low frost
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The angle of B

gritty carbon
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not quite

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you need to be more precise

low frost
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Uh

gritty carbon
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angle ABC specifically points to that angle there

low frost
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Okay

gritty carbon
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What is the value of the angle CBE

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?

low frost
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120°?

gritty carbon
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yes

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okay

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so lets get this question done

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AE is a straight line yes?

low frost
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Yes

gritty carbon
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and the angle B lines on this straight line

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so B's angle, in it's entirety, must add up to what?

low frost
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180?