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ok, thank u
yes sir

Think about the formal definition of derivative
what is the limit in the definition of the derivative
and what is the limit in the definition of continuous
Like this?
I'm gonna rewrite it slightly. $f$ is continuous at $c$ iff $$\lim_{x\to c} f(x)-f(c)=0$$
Denascite
now what about the limit for the derivative
What is the formal definition of derivative at x=c?
What?
$lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{h}$
This is the formal definition of the derivative at x
Ah wait
Pure
which I will again slightly rewrite as $$\lim_{x\to c} \frac{f(x)-f(c)}{x-c}$$
Denascite
How do you get the limit thing under lim?
So what is the conclution?
I wrote two limits. can you see anything about how they are connected?
The f(x)-f(c)?
Yes
what is the function?
Wait, i didnt get it
you have to show that $\lim_{x\to c} f(x)-f(c)=0$
Denascite
you know that $\lim_{x\to c} \frac{f(x)-f(c)}{x-c} = f'(c) <\infty$ exists and is finite
Denascite
what can you do
the intuition to know what is the limit "0/0" would be to think which function is getting faster to the point? for example, for f(x)=sin/x
$\lim _{x\to :0}\left(\frac{sin\left(x\right)}{x}\right)=1$
this means that sin and x approach 0 "the same speed"
Dav1d
we don't need to worry about any 0/0 stuff here
isn't the question about derivatives?
The question’s about f being continuous at c if f’(c) exists
oh, I understand
we dont yet actually know that the limit has the form 0/0. while we do show that at the end, we don't really have to worry about that
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So, like this?
we know that the following limit exists:
$\lim _{x\to :c}\left(\frac{f\left(x\right)-f\left(c\right)}{x-c}\right)$
we need to proof that this limit exists:
$\lim _{x\to :c}\left(f\left(x\right)-f\left(c\right)\right)$
note that:
$\lim _{x\to :c}\left(f\left(x\right)-f\left(c\right)\right)=\frac{f\left(x\right)-f\left(c\right)}{x-c}\cdot :\left(x-c\right)$
Dav1d
forgot the limit at the end
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How can I compute this ? I did not find the residue nor the Laurent development...
could you write this in latex?
yes give me two minutes
@dire yacht I don't know how to write in latex directly in the chat btw
c_2 is a constant > 0
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can I get help doing this integral? I have did a few steps and ended up on the anti derivative of sec theta/tan theta and I do not know how to solve that
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Can I integrate that?
I tried I regrating it but it came out with a weird value when I plugged it in the calculator so I wasn't sure if that was the way around it
Natural log of cos+sin x or something like that
yes but it's not exactly the most intuitive thing to integrate
Hm idk what to do then
Not sure if I did something wrong but I ended up with sec theta/ tan theta in 2 different problems and when I change it to csc theta and integrate it still feels like I can go anywhere
I'll try writing csc theta in terms of X then integrating maybe that fixes it
that's not gonna get you anywhere haha
Solve definite and indefinite integrals (antiderivatives) using this free online calculator. Step-by-step solution and graphs included!
you have to see it
Wait I actually found an even better method
Excellent work Chase! I will make a better thumbnail for this video soon!,
integral of csc(x) without that trick!,
integrals by student: Chase Snidfar,
the standard result of integral of csc(x), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byB0Vz3dcsE
partial fraction with cover-up, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-2YYFEmJJo&t=4s
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What have you tried
Nothing yet bc i cant really get it wrong 😅
The past 2 problems were different from this one
Yeah just simplify that
The composition is supposed to be simplified?
Its bc the past two problems weren’t simplified
You're saying it didn't simplify 5 + 3?
Well, it's ideal to simplify 5 + 3
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hi! may i get an explanation on why theres a x^2 on top at the last step
why is it not just x?
it's because 2ln(x) = ln(x^2)
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Is my solution here correct, because I feel like I did the math right but it doesnt seem correct for some reason
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I just want to know if my solution makes sense
Sort of those except the second to last line
Hold up
First off why r u subtracting by zero first line
Its equal to 0
The bottom line is just barely showing for some reason
want to check the answer because I feel like its not right for some reason
what?
why you respond if you cant help lol. But its easy to understand when you have the ground work understood. But seeing something where you dont understand even the notation means you wont understand it
Its equal sign, bottom line is just barely showing for some reason
Oh lol
yea you know if it looks right?
I think it’s right
I didn’t know that the solutions could be expressed as free variables
I’m also taking linear algebra
There should be a constant vector in your solution that isn’t effected by t and s I believe
Yeah but how would I get the constant vector'
tghere
Because the vectors are equal to 0 so theres no way I can get a constant on the right side with only variables on the left
Yeah that’s definitely right actually
I think it’s good
Makes sense to me
Got -t-s+t+s=0 for the 1st row
@timid silo stop spamming
Yeah but if we were to give that t=1 and s=2 it wouldnt hold is the problem
@mild harness ^
Yeah but my solution set doesnt for some reason
If u plug it into the original dot products up top it works
It doesnt though?
where did you get that from
And then this is plugging that all into the 1st dot product u have at the top of the page
Confirming it is perpendicular to that vector
Lol
-1-2 = -3 and that times 1 is -3
I dont know how you dont have -3 in your calculation
Oh wait I wrote my solution system of equations wrong
Or v2 is s*
I have v2 and v4 set to t
Ah shoot right
Ok bet, small little mistake that I have been looking at for 2 hours now lol
Relatable
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help

so I need to use law of syllogism
to get like an extra line for the slogan
you call find them for these 2
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suppose f was unbounded, then use the mean value theorem to show that f' is also unbounded
do you know what the mean value theorem is?
yup, so b-a is bounded, but f(b)-f(a) can be large
so what does that tell us about f'(c)?
differentiable on an open set though, so its fine here, just dont take the endpoints for a or b
f'(c) can get arbitrarily large, so unbounded
yup, thats how the proof would go
to make it formal, you could let N be arbitrary and show that we can construct a c such that |f'(c)|>N
since f is unbounded, we can find an a such that |f(b)|>N(x_2-x_1)|f((x_1+x_2)/2)|
its just a random number between x_1 and x_2
I just chose the midpoint
you can rearrange that to get the mean value theorem
oh mb
missing an absolute value at the end
$|f(b)|>N(x_2-x_1)\left|f(\frac{x_1+x_2}{2})\right|$
Toby
thats the contrapositive
(f' bounded => f bounded) <=> (f unbounded => f' unbounded)
note that (x_2-x_1) is certainly bigger than b-(x_1+x+2)/2
oh wait typo again ;-;
there should be a plus sign somewhere
$|f(b)|>N(x_2-x_1)+\left|f(\frac{x_1+x_2}{2})\right|$
Toby
sorry
move the |f(...)| on the left, use triangle inequality, then divide by this ^
HeyHey
why did you split up f((x_1+x_2)/2)?
we cant do that here since the things is inside f
I meant something like this (let $a=(x_1+x_2)/2$): $|f(b)-f(a)|\geq \left||f(b)|-|f(a)|\right|$
Toby
then divide by x_2-x_1 and compare that to b-a
yeah
and the left is less than f'(c) (up to a sign) for some c
and the right is just N
so we've constructed c such that f'(c)>N
yup you can
yup
because N was arbitrary, then f' is arbitrarily large, so unbounded
yw :)
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Hi, I'm working on an exercise which asks to compute the 4th degree MacLaurin expansion of this function:
$log(1-x^2)-2cosx$
Umma.Gumma
Umma.Gumma
now, I'm asked - without doing further computations - to determine whether f(x) has extrema points, for x=0
how can this be understood from an expansion?
how do you compute extrema points
starting from the roots of f'(x)=0 etc etc
good. what would be the derivative of that expansion
$-\frac{7}{3}x^3$
Umma.Gumma
you mean o(x^4) ?
yes it is
good. now what about a more general expansion $a_0 + a_1 x+ a_2x^2+a_3x^3+\ldots$
Denascite
when is x=0 a zero of the derivative of that
I'd say always
good. so x=0 is a zero if a1=0
but for this we dont actually have to compute anything, we just have to look at the expansion
and this is what I assume they mean with "without doing further computations"
to be precise, it says "without doing further computations on the function"
but what if there's no a_1 in the expansion? like the first one I wrote
I'd really like to grasp this concept
well then a_1=0
so we can conclude that f'(x) is 0, therefore there an extrema point at 0?
yeah
hmm although technically we would need to exclude that this is a saddle point
which we can for example do by noticing that f is an even function
ok so it's symmetric to the y axis
yes
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Hello 🙂 i would love some help going tru some tasks i made, to check if they are correct. Firstly
follows into this
but should i say that the limit is 0 for r=1/2 or how do i finish the argument?
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why does it end at ar^n-1? and not ar*n?
for this one
an integer
no
like
its
r^(n-1)
which in this case is
r^(1-1) = r^0=1
so we get a * 1 = 1
aka the first term
the number u mutliply to get to the next term
isnt the last term ar^n?
s1
if the last term was
this
ar^1
is this ur ans?
it would be a
whats thr?
there
ye thats strange
im having trouble understanding what n actually means
its just a number
saying how many terms there r
so like
n=3 means
we look at 3 terms
so
a3 would be
n is the number of terms starting from the first term to the nth number of term
because its just a completely arbitrary choice
of a_n
and it doesnt matter
they want it to be ar^n because the formula for the finite sum looks nicer
i like doing that tbh
whereas if you end with ar^n
then you get a slightly different formula
it really doesnt matter
🪄
sure
its mouldy
hmm this is quite hard to understand
ye i learnt it months ago
this
the last term will only be ar^3 if n=3 not k=3
k is the starting and n is the ending if im not mistaken
and we start at ar^0
where did n+1 come from
ye just
its written diff from b4
if in doubt
just
look at the base case
always
consider
n=1
well actually here the base case is
n=0
but well
n=1 can also work to show u how many terms there are
so
whats the sum look like
when n=1
so it starts at a_0
yes
kinda?
depends on how u define it
o well
just
define it how u like
as long as it works
ok
ok
i am still a little confused by this, because it ends at the second last term
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help me
LCM(4,7,9) is 252
least 4 digit multiple of this LCM is 1008
i cant get any further
neither the remainders are same, nor the difference between divisors and remainders are same
this sounds like a chinese remainder theorem problem
OH WWAIT
ohh congruence modulo
ahh why i didnt go for that procedure
you need to solve the system of congruences $$\begin{cases} x \equiv 2 \pmod{7} \ x \equiv 7 \pmod{9} \ x \equiv 3 \pmod{4} \end{cases}$$ and then take its smallest solution that is between 1000 and 9999
i was trying to ur common sense
Ann
hmm
@royal basin thanks
i completely forgot about CRT
i got it, answer is 1087 => 1+0+8+7 = 16
@royal basin how do i close
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hey, can someone help me with c) please?
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so you need to find a bijection between all the equivalence classes and the integers
in particular you need to find a bijection which sends R_(a,b) to a-b
or rather, use that as your function and show that it is indeed a bijection
and that it is well defined
yeah got it
how do you do this?
we want that $h\circ f = g$. that means $h(f(a,b))=g(a,b)$. Using the definition of $f$ and $g$, we want $h(R_{(a,b)}) = a-b$
yes?
Denascite
but why is that bijective?
idk I did b one week ago and I don't remember...
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Hey, I have a question regarding mathematics in computing and trigonometry. I will be starting a course in computer science in university and I would rly appreciate some resources and books to read and study from. There’s lot to study and I’m quite overwhelmed on where to start on so some help please i would appreciate
Do you have less experience in trig or in programming?
Some experience in programming i Finished a course and starting in uni next year
But I’m still beginner
Trig not a lot of experience i needed help w friends
Are you comfortable with for and while loops? And recursion?
Ok, fill in that gap
Would you have a book that contains everything I need
Hackerank is a good resource
Ohh ok ok
Do you know what language you will use
Python or either c#
Not MATLAB?
I heard Java will be taught as well
Not sure
Be sure about the language
I’m going off research and what my friends say
You make it sound like the course is going to be a mathematical programming course, is that not the case?
Isnr coding Lang quite easy once you understand one ? You can adapt to a different
They pile on the maths to weed out students
I wanna prepare for it
Please be clear
Is this like an Optimization Theory or Numerical Methods course?
Or not
Those are graduate level courses
Like if u fully understand C sharp starting in a different coding language is easier
It’s just computer science course 😭😭
Ok, you are just starting then
Don't worry about the math popping up seriously in your computer course
It will not.
Ya, just trying to study up on maths and I’m also using a guide to fully understand C sharp
They pile on trigonometry students are weeded out 😭
And it’s my weak point
I can't imagine how they plan to do that in C#
Python has modules for plotting, I don't know about C# (but it could)
I just can't imagine them giving you difficult math
Soo ya, any maths relating to computing and trigonometry would be immense help
Airquotes "Difficult"
Well I’m not sure either
Just preparing and building my maths knowledge
There is no math you will see in a first year computer science course that you can't read about in 5 minutes on Google
There’s so much I don’t know where to start, I wish there was a book I can read
Just a decent book would be everything i need 😭
Ok ok
Rent any pre-calculus text and you will be miles ahead of where you need to be in terms of math
The focus of courses like that IS NOT MATH
👀
Ohh
Alr gonna try Google it
paulsonlinemathnotes
Is an excellent online review resource for calculus...which will NEVER come up
Uh-huh.
Oh nice thank you sm
Getting that up rn
You really want to spend more of your time being familiar with using the language
Finally something to grind and read on
Mhm
I mainly use C sharp rn
Trying to master it
Although you should already be comfortable with pre-calculus by the time you start uni
I have about 10 months
To really study and grind rn
Ohh ok
I screen shot this to remember study on it
Alrrr
What is the highest math you finished?
GCSE 😭
Maths is weak point so I came here for advice
Glad I asked
Ok, yeah
Is there anything else I should study on
Math is honestly your most important thing to study now tbh
Since you have a math class coming up, right?
And being solid in loops and recursion
hackerrank has you there
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not asking for a problem to be solved but basically, here is the markscheme for a paper
my final answer came out to be y=1/4x+31/4
I just want to know if the examiner would give a tick for the correct answer
i checked it is indeed correct
Side note: I'm taking Cambridge AS level maths
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hi! i need help with these questions, i have not taken trig before and im lost
i do not understand what they are asking and how to illustrate it like they asked
^ this is technical math btw
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Which question do you need help with?
17-20, but i think if i figure out 17 i shouldbe set for the rest
Do you know how to draw angles in the cartesian plane?
The 2D plane which is formed by the intersection of x and y axis
If you have ever drawn a graph, you already know this
Yeah, I figured
Take the x axis as the base of one ray and draw another ray such that the angle between them is 150 degree
okay
so i need to draw two rays from the origin poijt thats 150 degrees but not make it a truange?
but uhm also! for c in the instructions, how would i find the other angles (one pos and one neg) and whattt does coterminal mean
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You don't really need the third line to make it a triangle
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one ray needs to coincide with the x-axis
coterminal means that both the rays of both angles coincide
coincide means overlap
like the angles in this image are coterminal
yup
so on the graph id illustrate it likw this
Yes!
This image shows 45 degree in the standard form
It has the arrow of rotation
And it has shown one positive and one negative coterminal angle
for 45 degree
c part it would look like this or did i get it wrong?
if c is the negative where would the positive coterminal be
oh wait now i see where the posiitve co teeminal would bw
like this?
and ro calculate the degrees for rhe negative it would be
150°-360°
and for rhe positive it would bw
150°+360°
righr?
Yes
YESSS
Also correct
and rhe ways to calculate rhe degrees r right too
Good job
Happy to help ^^
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It is given that p and q are supplementary angles such that p > q. If the difference between p and q is 52 degree, calculate the values of p and q.
what happened to your other channel
i .close
why
cause its not responding
ok
if you had questions about the responses, clearly explain which part you had issue with
I have issue at the diffrence between p and q is 52 degree part
do you know what difference means
yes
what's the difference between 2 and 5?
2-5=-3
not quite
5-2=3
yes, you'd subtract the smaller from the larger number
similarly what's the expression for the difference between p and q (i don't want you to give the numerical value of 52 for this)
p-q
yes
and you are told this has the numerical value of 52 degrees
which gets you an equation
ok
it says the difference between p and q is 52 and idk how to get p and q
<@&286206848099549185>
it also says p and q are supplementary angles, and someone else here asked you if you knew what that meant, but you conveniently ignored their question
its 180 degree
too imprecise
can you translate the sentence "p and q are supplementary angles" into an equation?
p+q=180 degree
ok
great
so you now have two equations:
p + q = 180
p - q = 52
are you able to find the values of p and q from here?
yes
but why will we get 2 equations
we have two pieces of information
one is that p and q are supplementary angles, the other is that their difference is 52 degrees
each of these gets translated into an equation
does this answer your question?
if you have nothing else left to ask then yes you can
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Hi guys, I don't know if this counts as maths but I'm gonna explain my problem anyway
What does it mean that an analogic signal is infinite and a digital signal is not?
I mean the digital signal too is infinite, 'cose It can assume infinite values and can last infinite time
The analogic signal is infinite too, cuz it can assume infinite values and last infinite time
So I don't really understand why analogic is called infinite and digital is not
isnt digital signal a sequence of 0 and 1 ?
@empty bison Has your question been resolved?
No
Thats binary
OH
WAIT
I understood
Analogic --> it can assume infinite values in infinite time
Digital --> it can assume a defined number of values in infinite time
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look at the highest power in the numerator and denominator (when expanded)
you don't have to
you can tell visually
for example whats the highest power if you had
$$(x+1)^{1000}$$
Tronsi
huh? Let's just go back to the original question here, what's the highest power in the numerator and the denominator?
remember, you only need to look at the term that grows the fastest
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yeah
yes
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How does X here equal 3/5?
I tried doing it myself and got x = -3
i rewrote the base 8 as 2^3 and got
2^2x = 2^3-3x
equated 2x = 3-3x
substracted 3 from both sides
2x - 3 = -3x
subtracted 2x from both sides
-3 = -5x
oh
oh my god
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what is the common factor ?
Wdym?
You know that to factor an expression, you find the common factor right ?
Hint : 6x = 2x + 4x
wdym you dont know what to answer ?
You have factored things like :
ab + ac = a(b+c)
right ?
the same concept here
just you need to know how to work with exponent
thats why I gave you this hint
yes
$5^{3x} \times 5^{3x} = 5^{3x+3x} = 5^{6x}$
Herels
yea but you have 5^{2x} on the left
I can do the same
hi
Hi
?
yep
Idk I just can't understand that
We did that first for the second one
And the first one I tried to do the same
im having trouble with this
but did you just look at the hint I gave ?
You can go and ask on available channel
It's OK, u will learn
Yh I did, but didn't understand why 6x
because 5^{6x} has 5^{2x} as a factor
Yes
Like I said, try to look at both terms their common factor
the more obvious one
And it will be 5^2x_5^2x x 5^4x?
eh, you have never done a factoring exercise before or...

you was almost there and you did it bad at the end
5^{2x} (1-5^{4x})
is what you should get
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yo can someone help explain this
What about it is confusing
how com the variable doesnt change inside
Wdym
x is the variable being substituted, not t
riemann sum is confusing asf
i was cruising until integration
@cedar lichen @tardy epoch
can ya help with this too?
Whats the problem
i dont get the "let G_b also be an anti derivative" and the last line
:/
how do u interpret F(X) as 2 sums, isnt F(X) a function in x
G(x) is being defined as ∫f(t) dt from a to x, right?
yeah
So G'(x) = f(x) by the FTC, right?
yeah
So it's an antiderivative of f by the definition of an antiderivative
yeah
So what's your next question
btw persona 5 royal just came out on game pass right 👀
Idk lol
so I get that G(X) must be an antiderative and so is F(X)
meaning their derivatives are =
and also thatthat means they are parallel functions
ie F(X)=G(X)+C
so that's the 2nd last step
but i dont get the last step at all.
how they get F(B)-F(A) and then (G(B)+C)
is it related to the prior step or supposed to be equivalent?
That's not actually true in general buttt it's true like 99% of the time
What are you trying to prove btw?
So we're trying to prove F(b) - F(a) is actually equal to ∫f(x) dx from a to b
Well, what is F(b) - F(a), since we know F(x) = G(x) + C?
Actually can we get back to this, why is it true?
What was the theorem in the previous slides
Yea
Idk tbh
(Although F(x) = G(x) + C iff F and G are continuous)
Yeah
G(B)+C 👀