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small thicket
dreamy jackal
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oohh so thats what its called

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its transforming principal nth roots to radicals right?

small thicket
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sure

dreamy jackal
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like this? then do you simplify the fractions right?

small thicket
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yea

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where did the variables go tho

dreamy jackal
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oh oops lemme work on it again

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is it like this? im really unsure what to do with the variables

small thicket
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distribute fractions and simplify

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:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

dreamy jackal
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wdym distribute 🥲

small thicket
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same thing for the variables

dreamy jackal
small thicket
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no?

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just do

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$(x^4)^\frac{4}{6}$

warm shaleBOT
small thicket
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multiply 4 by 4

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giving u x^16/6

dreamy jackal
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what about the 4^2y^8 if their exponents are different?

small thicket
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it doesnt matter

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just multiply the first thing (4^2) ^ of the fracton and (y^8) power of fraction

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u can take them as seperate things iykwim

dreamy jackal
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like this??

small thicket
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huhuhuhuhuhu

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should be tis

dreamy jackal
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ohhh so thats what you mean by separate i thought its like putting parenthesis

small thicket
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oh mb

dreamy jackal
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like this???

small thicket
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huh we cant do that

dreamy jackal
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huh

small thicket
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the denominator

dreamy jackal
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wdym where is it

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random depot
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raise each side to power of 6

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then simplify each side of the equation

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dreamy jackal
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can u explain how to simplify each side?

strange bough
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Bro 💀How

flint sundial
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the divide

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bluepianist

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solemn crater
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if I have an equation similar to f(x) = 4x^4 - 16x^2, how can I go about finding the value of x that will give me a specific value for f(x).

ie. -16 = 4x^4 - 16x^2 (how do I get x by itself here)

timid silo
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I'm not sure but i would try to write it with X=x² and then resolve the quadratic equation

brittle blaze
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I would factor a 4x^2 out

solemn crater
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I tried the factoring, which blew up in my face, but now that you say that, I think I was trying to factor our the wrong value. Ill try the substitution thing first, and if that doesnt work, I'll try the factoring again. Thanks guys!

brittle blaze
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Wait i didn’t understand the question fully at first and now i do. Im not completely sure the factoring is the way to go

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Let me think for a moment

solemn crater
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yeah no problem. (For some more info, I need to draw the graph of a similar equation. I have a rough idea of what the graph looks like, and I know that the range. So I am trying to figure out what the x value would be for the range that I know.)

timid silo
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You can divide everything by 4 first maybe

solemn crater
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^ before factoring?

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or whats the end goal with that?

timid silo
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Just you equation with -16

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-16 = 4x^4 - 16x^2 <=> -4=x^4 - 4x^2 <=> x^4 - 4x^2+4=0

solemn crater
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so that does make sense, but I still need to isolate that x somehow. Would the quadratic equation be able to help with those higher degree suckers?

timid silo
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Well you gotta try right

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X²-4X+4=0 with X=x²

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Then x=+-sqrt(X)

solemn crater
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sounds good, I'll give that a go and see what happens. I can get excel to give me the answer immediately, but on paper this is a bit of a pain lol

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prisma juniper
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can anyone explain the identity they use?

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like i understand it's addition theorem but why doesn't it work with the unit circle diagram

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brisk grove
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Which part of the solution you don't understand?

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I don't see where 4/7pi appears

obtuse pebbleBOT
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prisma juniper
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so i converted to a positive sin using -sin(x) = sin(-x) so i ended up with sin(-11pi/7)

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and the angle -11pi/7 can be thought of as clockwise from the x-axis by pi + 4pi/7

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which is where the 4pi/7 comes from

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and i'm trying to understand how with that logic the sin(-11pi/7) = sin(3pi/7)

wild swallow
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,w -11pi/7 + 2pi

wild swallow
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@prisma juniper

warm shaleBOT
wild swallow
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it is a full rotation around the unit circle

frosty spoke
warm shaleBOT
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Saccharine

prisma juniper
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how did i miss that

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that was literally the exact thing i was looking for

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thanks tho

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worthy arch
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damn you bill

wooden cipher
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if f is 1-1 and monotonically increasing, you know a lot about fof

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i was typing

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let me finish

wild swallow
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imagine f is a conveyor belt that only moves forwards

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that's monotonously increasing

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then you put a copy of the belt onto itself

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are you still always moving forwards?

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from definition D:

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definition of monotonically increasing

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if x < y then f(x) <= f(y)

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unless you're one of the strict guys

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in which case it's f(x) < f(y)

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yeah

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and then using monotonically increasing

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its also the monotonically increasing

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otherwise you'll mess up stuff

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yep

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good good

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x^2 - 3 wasn't it

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anyway

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seems like you got it

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im out

warm shaleBOT
stable rain
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whats ur

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Q

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i feel

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if uve a new Q u shlda

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just start a new thread

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vxeR?

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for all x in R?

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is this another condition

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or a separate question has this condition

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i think

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monotonically increasing f means

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f' is >0 for all x in R

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ditto decreasing g'

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right

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same

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fill in with the same stuff

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so then

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we want to find if h is increasing or decreasing

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essentially

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h'

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i think u use quotion rule on h

river kindle
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Did you say that that g(x) and f(x) are both >0

stable rain
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what the derivative of h in terms of f and g

river kindle
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I mean just based on intuition it is h(x) monotonically increasing yeah?

stable rain
river kindle
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1/1 <1/0.5

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If the denominator is getting smaller

stable rain
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OH

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ok actually

river kindle
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The value is going up

stable rain
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ive a better way to explain this

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so

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monotonically increasing f means that f is convex right

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and monotinically decreasing g means g is concave

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however

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g is lower bounded

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thus g is the constant function

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a positive constant

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thus f* constant is also convex -> monotonically increasing

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wew

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why didnt i see this earlier

river kindle
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Yeah as long as they >0

stable rain
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checks out? bee

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wait did u

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did i

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nvm

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so sad

river kindle
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Bill what class is this? Out of curiosity

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Calc 2?

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Or high school

river kindle
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Okay ye

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It’s def increasing

stable rain
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didnt we already kinda conclude that lol

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anw im outa here

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i got ignored like 6x

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feels dank man

gilded needle
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that's kinda hard to read, do you have a screenshot?

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ah i see

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the second line, should i read it as: $f(x) = 1 - \phi^2(x) - e^{2x} + 2e^{x}\phi(x) \ \ \forall x \in \mathbb R$ ?

warm shaleBOT
gilded needle
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and in this context, does $\phi^2$ mean the (pointwise) square, or the composition of $\phi$ with itself?

warm shaleBOT
gilded needle
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ok that looks correct

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what does fmax mean?

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oh max value of f, got it

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well there's no reason to expect f(0) = 1, is there?

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buoyant zenith
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buoyant zenith
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real quick question

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can some explain why some of these are horizontal translations

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and some of them are vertical translations

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idk how to like identify what each look like inside a function

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omg help is here

trim locust
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Anything inside with x effects the x axis, anything outside effects the y axis. With green, because if bidmas, you do 2 abs(x) first, so the vertex is at y=0, then 3 is subtracted from the output, which lowers the y by three. You see this happening on purple as well, it’s raised 4 up, something else is happening here too as it’s been shifted by -2 in x axis. The way I like to think of this is, the vertex occurs when the abs(x) = 0, therefore the vertex will occur now when the x+2 = 0 therefore x =-2, which is why the graph is pushed that way on x

buoyant zenith
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woah woah woah

trim locust
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Does that make sense?

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Is that what you were asking?

buoyant zenith
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i sort of get it but keep in mind i cheated my way into alegbra 2 so i have idea what some of those terms mean

trim locust
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What terms specifically

buoyant zenith
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like about green and purple

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could you re explain it

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in simpler terms

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i get the first sentencr

trim locust
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Ok I’ll have a go

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So

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Abs(x) has the sharp point when y=0, because that’s the whole point of absolutes values

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But the -3 after abs(x) means that your entire graph is shifted downwards

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Imagine every value you get, take 3 from it

trim locust
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So that’s green

buoyant zenith
trim locust
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For reference I’ll be calling the sharp point thing on the abs x graph a vertex, as that’s how I was taught

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So it’s easier for me to explain

buoyant zenith
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alright no problem

trim locust
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Purple:
For the graph y =abs(x), the vertex occurs when x= 0, when x < 0 the graph goes up again (because you take the absolute value) so in the case of abs(x+2) the vertex will still occur at the x position that makes x+2=0 which is x=-2, hence the shift to the left in the purple graph

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Just like before, all values you get out, you need to add 4, this is why the graph is lifted up

buoyant zenith
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got it

trim locust
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The same goes for that quadratic

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The black one, y=x^2 has its turning point at x=0, (x-8)^2 has it at x=8

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Hence the shift to the right of the black curve

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I hope that makes sense

buoyant zenith
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yeah i got it

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thanks

trim locust
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Np

buoyant zenith
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u saved my math homework

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😂

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eternal jewel
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How does this work sheet just go from $$\frac{2x+6}{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}-\frac{3}{2}x}$$ to $$\frac{4(x+3)}{x(x-3)}$$?

warm shaleBOT
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Bolvarsdad

eternal jewel
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I don't see it

tidal hawk
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the denominator is (x^2 - 3x)/2

tidal hawk
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u can rewrite as (2x+6) • 2/ (x^2 - 3x)

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factor out 2 from numerator and x from denom

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that’s how u get to that form

eternal jewel
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Nice, great explanation

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Thank you

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🙂

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pseudo hatch
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Why did they multiply 3x and 4 x both sides

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high lily
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you mean to the numerator and denominator?

pseudo hatch
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Yeah

high lily
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so they could apply the limit identity for
$$\lim_{k\to0}\frac{\sin(k)}{k}$$

warm shaleBOT
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ℝamonov

pseudo hatch
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Now I got this but how is it 4

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pseudo hatch
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Can someone go through his they do 25

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zenith raft
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expanding the numerator seems like it would be ok to start with

pseudo hatch
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Oh I got it thanks

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clear cape
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how do i solve this?

boreal condor
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and correctly identify the where the types of discount occur

clear cape
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so by looking at the graph i have to identify it

boreal condor
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yes

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there isnt any math u can do

clear cape
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so

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for jump it will (-6,0.5)?

boreal condor
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what is the definition of a jump discountinuity

clear cape
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when two sided limit doesn't exist

boreal condor
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that's part of it

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but the limit at as x approaches -6 exists right?

clear cape
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yea

boreal condor
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so then what type of discount is that?

clear cape
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removable

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?

boreal condor
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yes

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dark orchid
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How to solve number 3?

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<@&286206848099549185>

dark orchid
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@ruby fulcrum

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Wait wrong one

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<@&286206848099549185>

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💀

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split wraith
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I need help with an abstract algebra proof that involved showing/proving a that a given function is/is not a sub group of the group g.

G= {G, +}, H={log (n): n in Z, n>0}

split wraith
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:0

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FRIEND!

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G is just like a general group

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in this case, it is the addition group

zenith raft
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hmmm

split wraith
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i know that some of the ways to prove is something is a subgroup is to see if it is

  1. closed with respect to the opperation

  2. closed with respect to the inverse

and maybe non-empty..?

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le sigh i have 4 problems left...im never gonna get this done before 3 am

zenith raft
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yesss you can do it

split wraith
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I rly am trying XD

zenith raft
split wraith
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ummmm hold on let me grab the photo

zenith raft
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so G is the real numbers with addition 🙂

split wraith
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yes (:

zenith raft
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so you know the identity in H must be the same as the identity in G right?

split wraith
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yeah, e has to be equal in both H and G

zenith raft
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so 0 is the identity in H

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what do the elements in H looks like?

stable rain
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what topic is this

split wraith
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um....well H is log(n) so its kinda like a curve thing

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this is abstract algrbrea

zenith raft
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can you write a few out?

split wraith
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yeah i can write out a few log values out

stable rain
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sounds fun

split wraith
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its not

zenith raft
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haha yes it is

split wraith
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my calculator is dead....i cant rememeber any log values

stable rain
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lol nice cry

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is there a lot of calculations?

zenith raft
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lol it's ok

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,calc log(1)

warm shaleBOT
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Result:

0
zenith raft
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,calc log(2)

warm shaleBOT
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Result:

0.69314718055995
stable rain
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i thought complex analysis wouldnt hv any but it has so many series :c

zenith raft
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,calc log(3)

warm shaleBOT
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Result:

1.0986122886681
zenith raft
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notice anything?

split wraith
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well it passes 1

zenith raft
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if log(2) is in H, what else needs to be in H for H to be a subgroup?

split wraith
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well n can be anything above 0

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if it cant be 0 and 0 is the identity element than does that mean its not a sub group?

zenith raft
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well 0 is in H

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log(1) = 0

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so that's ok

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what else do we need for H to be a subgroup?

split wraith
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oh okay, i wish it wasnt lol, it would make this easier

zenith raft
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haha

split wraith
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we need the inverse, right?

zenith raft
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yep

split wraith
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so we would need the actual value of e

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like the irrational number/function?

zenith raft
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hmm I think it's easier than you are thinking

split wraith
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you're probably right...

zenith raft
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is -log(2) in H?

split wraith
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no

zenith raft
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then that's all you need, log(2) has no inverse

split wraith
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maybe?

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hold on, can we go over this a little more?

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I am confused with the no inverse part

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which sounds dumb..

zenith raft
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ok so for H to be a subgroup it needs to be a group under + and be a subset of R

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in order to be a group, one property it needs is that every element must have an inverse

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log(2) is in H, but it's inverse (it's unique inverse in R) is -log(2) and that's not in H because -log(2) < 0

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and log(n) >= 0 for any positive integer n

split wraith
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wait is that what the problem said?

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the problem said that n>0

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it didnt say anything about log(n)</> 0 or anything

zenith raft
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oh it didn't say that but it's true

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log is an (strictly) increasing function

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so if log(1) = 0

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then log(n) > 0 for any n > 1

split wraith
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makes sense

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and since i cant put any numbers below 0 in it log cant be below 0

zenith raft
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below 1*

split wraith
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yeah XD

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so, H is not a subgroup because log(n) cannot be be below 0 and therefore there are no inverses?

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or something like that

zenith raft
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sure that works

split wraith
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since the values for -log(2) do not exist if n>0

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cool, ill probably be back....unfortunately..

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thank you layla, i owe you big time, this has to be like the 5 time youve helped me

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haha of course ❤️

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find the number of 4 digit natural numbers that can be formed that do not contain the digit 5?

ruby skiff
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so it would be from 1-9

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so there would be 9 possibilities right?

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but if we exclude the 5 it would be 8

wooden cipher
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youre forgetting about 0

ruby skiff
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wait but is 0 not apart of whole numbers?

wooden cipher
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for the first digit it is 8, for the other digits it is 9

ruby skiff
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and not natural numbers/

wooden cipher
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think about a number like 4063

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it is a natural number

ruby skiff
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oh

wooden cipher
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which also does not contain 5

ruby skiff
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wait the answer is somehow 5832

wooden cipher
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sounds right

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let me explain

ruby skiff
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k

wooden cipher
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for the first digit, you have 8 choices: 1-4 or 6-9
for the other digits you have 9 choices: 0-4 or 6-9
since the number is 4 digits you have 8x9x9x9

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8x9x9x9=5832

ruby skiff
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wait but how come the first one we exclude 0?

wooden cipher
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(e.g.) 0123 is not considered a 4 digit number

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it is considered a 3 digit number with a leading zero

ruby skiff
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oh

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but 0 is still considered a natural number right?

ruby skiff
wooden cipher
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in some cases, some people consider it a natural number because the definition for a natural number is controversial

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like some people say "natural numbers count objects so it starts at 1, instead 0 is a WHOLE number"

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negative numbers fall under integers blah blah

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most people just say positive integers for those greater than 0 and nonnegative integers for those greater than OR EQUAL to 0

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reduces confusion

ruby skiff
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k thx man

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yup np

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ive tried writing the initial x and y velocity components in terms of the total velocity times cos and sin theta respectively to see if i could derive the time of flight but no luck

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Ok so you’re gonna need suvat

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What’s the displacement?

soft bloom
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300 ft

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What does suvat mean

trim locust
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The equations for projectiles

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So yeh
S = 300
U= 0
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That’s the horizontal axis, you see how I got those variables

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Specifically u=0

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No what is u

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Oh it’s initial velocity

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How is it 0

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Hello, Is there a way to know which number system they are using without trial and error?

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worn ocean
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First time encountering these kinds of problem, Kind of stuck.

past flame
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suppose estallarium used base B

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then 291=1+9B+2B^2

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where we can write B in our very cool decimal number system

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do that for the rest

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you get a qudratic equation for B

worn ocean
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well its fairly easy honestly, if you imagine that whatever their base was, their addition at the end comes out to 0 in the final answer, so if u add all the unit digits, you get ur answer :D

past flame
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tru

worn ocean
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or u can do what @past flame is saying for better understanding of the base system instead of the problem directly

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i'd suggest both

past solar
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Hmmmm, Thanks, I will try it.

worn ocean
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in any base, to get a 0 at the units digit, you need to have the sum be equal to the base itself

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so if u add 1 + 3 + 1 + 4 + 3, u get 12 here

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but the professor writes the last digit as 0 in his answer, right?

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so it must mean that he's using base 12

past solar
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OH OK.

past flame
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ye

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Need help solving "Find for which values of x and y the expression A=(x+y-2)^2+(2x-y-1)^2+13 has the lowest value"

wanton kraken
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I'm at system of linear equations

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do I put it as
|(x+y-2)^2=0
|(2x-y-1)^2+13=0

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I solved it for x and y

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ignoring the +13

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in the second line

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but am I right?

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x+y-2=0
2x-y-1=0

neon anchor
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why the hell did you ignore the 13

wanton kraken
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what do I do then

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I just need a little guidance

neon anchor
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first solve (2x-y-1)^2

wanton kraken
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=0

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right?

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2x-y-1=0

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-y=1-2x
y=2x-1

neon anchor
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no

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(2x-y-1)^2=-13

wanton kraken
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hmm ok

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squared trinomial

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gimme a min

neon anchor
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lowest value of x and y

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?

wanton kraken
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gimme a min

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let me first

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solve

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ty

neon anchor
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dosent make sense at all

wanton kraken
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and also

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pls for the love of god

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let me solve

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then ping

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so because

neon anchor
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fine

wanton kraken
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I solved problems of the sort: "Find for which values of x and y the equation is true: (x+2y)^2+(y+2)^2=0"

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somehow I have to work with system of linear equations

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so

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x+2y=0
y+2=0

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y=-2

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x-4=0

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x=4

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before the type of problems

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I'm currently (this one) solving

neon anchor
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x+2y=y+2

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according to your new equation

wanton kraken
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or do I have to simplify it first?

neon anchor
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you distribute the ^2 i suppose

wanton kraken
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4x^2+y^2+1-4xy-4x+2y

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is what I get

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=-13

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what do I do next?

neon anchor
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i dont know what youre even looking for

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neither ive seen this type of question before

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💀

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I don't know the Formula name in english but how do i calcute 2ab in a² - 2ab + b²

little knot
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is 2ab : 2 x a x b OR 2 x a + b

drifting wraith
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2×a×b

little knot
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Okay thankss

proven zephyr
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and it's (a - b)^2

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it's called expansions if im not wrong

little knot
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tyty

proven zephyr
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you're welcome

little knot
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How do i apply the formula on the B ?

inland solar
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Salut Maë. Developes les formules avec les identités remarquables

little knot
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Salut, oui je sais qu'il faut utiliser les identités remarquables mais je ne sais pas faire sur les fractions

inland solar
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Remplace 5a/2 par A et 4b/3 par B.

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Tu auras alors (A-B)^2

little knot
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Et je divise ou je laisse les fractions comme elles sont ?

inland solar
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Developes et à la fin tu remets les fractions

little knot
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D'accord mercii

inland solar
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Je fais de mon côté. Donnes ta réponse quand tu as fini

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Fini pour moi.

little knot
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3 secondes, j'ai presque finis

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J'ai eu: 6,25a² - 12,5² + 1,77b²

inland solar
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Ou sont a et b?

little knot
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J'ai fais 5/2² et 4/3²

inland solar
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Il manque les carrés de a et b et ab au milieu

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5a/2=A

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4b/3=B

little knot
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je refais

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5a/2 = 2,5

inland solar
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Tu as bien A^2-2AB+B^2

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Garde sous forme de fraction, c'est plus facile

little knot
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5a/2² = 25a/4

inland solar
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5a/2 au carré donne 25a^2/4

little knot
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Ahh et après je fais la même pour le b

inland solar
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Pour B pareil

little knot
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B= 16b²/9

inland solar
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Yep

little knot
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Ah le ² va au neuf non?

inland solar
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Restes le -2AB

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(a/b)^2=a^2/b^2

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Le 3 est devenu 9

little knot
stable rain
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woo cool langauge

inland solar
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Non

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Etape par étape pour -2AB

little knot
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Poir -2AB j'ai fais 2 x 25a x 16b

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Ce qui fait 800ab

inland solar
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-2×5a/2×4b/3

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Les 2 s'annulent

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-5a×4b/3

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Donc -20ab/3

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Pourquoi as-tu viré les fractions ?

little knot
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Ah donc 40a/ 12b

inland solar
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Y'a pas a faire de carrés dans -2AB.

little knot
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là j'ai pas fais de carrés, J'ai fais 2 x 5a x 4b= 40
Puis 2 x 2 x 3 = 12

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C'est bon ?

inland solar
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Pourquoi tu multiplies le dénominateur par 2?

little knot
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Faut annuler le 2 quand il y a plusieurs?

inland solar
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Pour simplifier, oui

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Quand il est en haut et en bas

little knot
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tu as mis 4b ?

inland solar
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4b/3, oui

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Il est pas joli mon b? 😥

little knot
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Du coup le résultat c'est 20ab/3

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okay billy

inland solar
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Burger, soda, cowboy

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Can you let us , bill

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Bye.

little knot
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on peut faire le 1er aussi?

inland solar
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Donc Maë, écris toute la solution.

little knot
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la solution? genre le résultat

inland solar
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Peux-tu la remettre la 1ère question, elle est perdue en haut maintenant.

little knot
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20ab/3 = 6ab

inland solar
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Oui le résultat.

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Ouf!!!

little knot
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c'était pas si compliqué ça va

inland solar
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Je voyais plus ça

little knot
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166²/9 ? il vient d'ou

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ah

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Si c'est compliqué enfait

inland solar
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16b^2/9

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Tu es fâché avec mon b, on dirait.

little knot
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et le résultat c'est..

inland solar
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Y'a pas, faut juste développer, non?

little knot
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21ab/10

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ah oui

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Ok j'ai pas besoin de faire tout ça

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on peut passer au 1er

inland solar
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Ok

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Meme technique

little knot
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(4x² - 8x + 4)

inland solar
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Oui pour la première parenthèse

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L'autre maintenant

little knot
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  • (9 - 12x + 4x)
inland solar
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-8x pas -8x^2

little knot
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je continue a développer ?

inland solar
little knot
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Non ou?

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3²= 9
2x² = 4x²

inland solar
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9-12x+4x^2

little knot
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effectivement

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là c'est bon normalement

inland solar
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Maintenant assembles les 2 parenthèses

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Je fais de mon côté

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La réponse est courte.

little knot
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11

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11x

inland solar
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Nope!

little knot
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11x²

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Je refais

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1 ?

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1x

inland solar
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4x-5

little knot
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Je peux voir ton calcul pour voir comment tu as trouver ça

inland solar
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Je saute des étapes que je fais de tête.

little knot
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moi j'avais calculer les 2 parenthèses Developper

inland solar
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Refais le à ton rythme

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Montres, stp

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Je veux voir où est ton erreur de logique

little knot
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  1. la première parenthèse déjà developper
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  1. la 2eme (aussi déjà developper)
inland solar
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Ça c'est bon

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Et après

little knot
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0x - 1x = -1x

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mais toi tu avais écris un autre résultat

inland solar
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C'est quoi ça ????

little knot
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Ben j'ai soustrais ça

inland solar
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Oh je comprends

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Ouhlala

little knot
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fallait me dire qu'il fallait seulement assembler les parenthèses d'origine

inland solar
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C'est pas ça.

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Tu ne peux pas additionner carrés de x, x et constante comme ça.

little knot
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Alors j'enlève juste le x

inland solar
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Non

little knot
inland solar
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J'essaye de trouver une analogie pour te faire comprendre.

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Je vais le refaire sans griller d'étapes.

little knot
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Comment tu as trouver (2x-2)² = 8x + 4 ?

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(2x - 2)² = 0 ?

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Ah je sais, la règles des signes

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J'ai fais ça mais j'ai pas trouver 4x -5 ..

inland solar
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Je pense pas avoir brûlé d'étape.

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Le plus important, c'est que tu ne peux pas additionner des x^2 avec des x et avec des nombre.

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J'ai rajouté une étape

little knot
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Pourquoi 2x,

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2x² = 4x ?

inland solar
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Je regroupe les x^2 ensembles, puis les x puis les nombres. On mélange pas les torchons avec les serviettes.

little knot
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et le 8x + 12x tu l'a annulé ?

inland solar
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-8x+12x

little knot
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ah oui donc = 0

inland solar
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(-8+12)x

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(12-8)x

little knot
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J'ai tout compris maintenant

inland solar
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4x

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Faut regroupez x^2, x, et nombre.

little knot
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Ils demandent une 2ème méthodes, je suppose que c'est (a+b) (a-b) = a² - b²

inland solar
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Ouaip

little knot
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j'avais essayer hier soir et ça m'a fait 4x² - 4x²

inland solar
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Si tu te mélange pas tu obtiens 4x-5

little knot
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Bon je recommence pour avoir 4x-5

inland solar
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Je develope de mon côté sans sauter trop d'étapes.

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Fait, 4x-5 pareil

little knot
inland solar
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Du tout!!!

little knot
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montre

inland solar
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(2x+2) est a

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(3-2x) est b

little knot
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J'ai factoriser enfait

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j'ai pas développer

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Attend non puisque la formule c'est (a+b) (a-b) = a² - b²
Et (a+b) (a-b) c'est (2x-2)² - (3-2x)²

inland solar
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Faut que tu arrêtes de mélanger les x^2 avec les x et les nombres.

little knot
inland solar
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Faut pas mélanger les torchons avec les serviettes, jamais.

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C'est ton erreur récurrente, dans notre discussion

little knot
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Faut que je regroupe quoi encore

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Les x ?

inland solar
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Tu regroupes les x^2 avec les x^2, les x avec les x, et les nombres sans rien avec avec les nombres sans rien avec.

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Quand tu lis , remplace x^2 par patates, les x par pomme.

little knot
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D'accorddd Je vais faire ça, est-ce que tu sera disponible plus tard? je vais faire une pause mais j'ai besoin d'aide dans d'autre exercices

inland solar
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Je suis en Corée, il est 1h13 du matin, je vais aller faire dodo.

little knot
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Ah oui il est tard

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Ben un autre jour alors, si tu veux tjr

inland solar
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Pas de soucis, mp moi si je suis en ligne. Bonne journée, moi je vais pioncer.

little knot
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Bonne nuit!

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A group of 40 campers decided to buy a gift for the guide.
10 more campers joined the group, so each camper paid two shekels less
of the amount planned to be paid. In total, the amount of money collected was 20 shekels more
from the amount needed to buy the gift. How much money did each pay?

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How to solve this?

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??

devout sable
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Yes me too

pearl aurora
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????

devout sable
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What have you tried

pearl aurora
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40 = x and 50 = x - 100

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idk how to solve this

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because this does not make sense

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Wait what

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I saw different question earlier

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Yeah my mistake, I copied the wrong question

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1 hour...

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???????

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2 hours

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Can someone help me with this?

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From my linear algebra class, I know i'm supposed to come up with equations to create a system of equations

normal turtle
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that means its min and max points are those coordinates right

winter geyser
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yeah

normal turtle
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so u know then the gradient is 0 when x = those numbers

winter geyser
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but the linear algebra needs to be applied here, which is what I'm struggling with

normal turtle
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so u gotta use matrices?

winter geyser
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I did something weird and it seems wrong

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let me show my work

normal turtle
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okay go for it

winter geyser
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I plugged the numbers and got 2 equations, then I took the derivative and plug again and got 2 more equations

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but this feels wrong

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i ended up with a quadratic equation 💀

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we only have an online meeting once in a week, we basically have to teach ourselves linear algebra 😭

normal turtle
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so youre using reduced echelon form?

winter geyser
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yes

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I know my work is chaotic

normal turtle
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okay so for that you dont actually have to make it entirely the identity matrix

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this is a trick i was taught

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only make everything underneath the line of 1s in the identity matrix a 0

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and then use simul and subbing in to work it out from there

winter geyser
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okay I will try that now

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but is this approach a good idea?

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taking the derivative as well

normal turtle
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no cause the derrivate finds the equation of a tangent to the line

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so its a different equation

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subbing in another number to original eq is better

winter geyser
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Im only given two pairs

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is that enough?

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where do I find more pairs of numbers

normal turtle
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hm yeah

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sorry man im stumped ill see if i can think of anything

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its like half 10 so im half asleep ahah

winter geyser
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no worries man, thank you still! 🙏

normal turtle
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dudeeee

normal turtle
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u know its equal to 0

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as its the turning points

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points of inflection

winter geyser
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Yeah

normal turtle
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so

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make it equal to 0

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not 2

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and stuff

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wait

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no

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cazoz

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wait yeah u cant do differential

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cause its another equation

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hm

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could u plug in some random numbers and give it a go

winter geyser
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I’m currently in the online tutoring center (apparently my college has that)

winter geyser
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but he didnt finish it lol, just showed me that

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im gonna do it and see if the website accepts the result

normal turtle
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ahah fair enough okay

winter geyser
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yeah it was quick too, im gonna be there all the time now

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:D

normal turtle
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lucky you man i dont have shet ahah

winter geyser
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gonna try this, brb

normal turtle
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okay see how it goes

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then show me im curious

winter geyser
normal turtle
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what making the differentials equal 0?

winter geyser
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yeah i just set this up and solved the matrix

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thanks a lot for the help!

normal turtle
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damn nice well done

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ahah i did nothing lol

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but have a good day man

winter geyser
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you were on the right path with it lol

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you too man!

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woven shoal
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supposedly this problem is a lot easier with Parsavels

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the integration seems like a pain to brute force

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how would you use parsevels

wild swallow
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e^imt form an orthogonal basis

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so the norm of g(t) is just the sum of the squares of the coefficients

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taking modulus ofc cuz you have complex coeffs

woven shoal
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so its just 1/2pi int 0 to 2 pi of g(t)^2?

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im confused how parsevels comes into play here

wild swallow
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that integral is the squared norm of g wrt the inner product

woven shoal
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correct

wild swallow
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to compute the norm of a vector

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where you have an orthonormal basis

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you take the sum for the squared coeffs

woven shoal
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I know how to compute the norm however my instructor said to use parsevals, and that isnt parsevals right?

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i mean id have to find the ak values

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so basically take the integral with respect to e^ikt

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then just square that right

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whatever computes

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basically that

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then square the result

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would be parsevals right?

wild swallow
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you know the basis

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it's just e^imt

woven shoal
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correct

wild swallow
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you can see that g is a linear combination of the basis

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so you can see the coefficients

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there's no need to compute integrals to get them

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the coefficient of 1 is 2

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the coefficient of e^-3it is 6

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the coefficient of e^5it is -i

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add the sum of squares* and you're done

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(not actually sum of squares but sum of square absolute values)

woven shoal
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or am I totally misunderstanding

wild swallow
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|-i|^2 = 1

woven shoal
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+1 **

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correct

wild swallow
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you never subtract when calculating norms

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that's it

woven shoal
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so 41?

wild swallow
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that's all there is to it

woven shoal
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huh we were never taught that

wild swallow
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well your formulas suggest otherwise

woven shoal
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yeah, thats true I guess I just didnt understand it was that simple

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that we were GIVEN the basis

wild swallow
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i mean

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how else did you think extracting the coefficients worked

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you need to take an inner product with the basis in the first place

woven shoal
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that makes sense

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thanks for the help

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• Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.

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I did 10x8

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Got 80 Multiplied it by 12 and got the answer is that correct?

plain stag
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it's asking for the perimeter. Do you know what that is?

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Yes

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what is it?

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because your work calculates something different

timid silo
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Ohh I see I’m stupid the answer should be 48

plain stag
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it should

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48in because math teachers are anal about including units

timid silo
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Could u help me with this please I have no idea what I’m doing

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can you show the figure at the right?

timid silo
plain stag
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ok cool

warm shaleBOT
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Steakanator

timid silo
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Yes angle RTS

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can you draw the angle on that figure?

timid silo
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Yea? Does it form a L

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it depends on the size of the angle

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Yea it forms an “

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L*

plain stag
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perhaps more important, do you know what this means?

timid silo
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I don’t know what the thing in between the letters mean

plain stag
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it means "perpendicular"

timid silo
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Ohh alright

plain stag
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for two line segments to be perpendicular, what must the angle between them measure?

timid silo
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I don’t know tbh

plain stag
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what is the defining characteristic of a right triangle?

timid silo
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90 degrees?

plain stag
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yes

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two line segments are perpendicular when the angle between them measures 90 degrees

timid silo
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Ohh ok

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So what do I do?

plain stag
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you have an expression for the size of the angle, and you know what it must be numerically

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all that's left is to find x that makes them equal

timid silo
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Can you just tell me the answer pls this is to stressful

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• When asking for help, do not insist on getting just the answer; we are here to help you learn, not do the work for you.

timid silo
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Ok do you know a place to go where I can actually get the answers instead of wasting my time

plain stag
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just getting the answers would be wasting your time

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going through the problems and actually learning the techniques is never a waste

timid silo
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It literally is tho I’m never gonna use any of this in the real world lol but ok💀

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ok then, good luck

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signal marten
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hello there pops

obtuse pebbleBOT
signal marten
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f(x)= (x +1)
j(x) = x²- 1
g(x) = (x-1)
k(x) = 2x² + 3x + 1
l(x) = 2x² - x – 1

find : (j ○ f)(4)

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amber meteor
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Ok so do you know how to factor $x^2-1$

warm shaleBOT
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Absolute Chips

amber meteor
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And doing long division

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