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oohh so thats what its called
its transforming principal nth roots to radicals right?
sure
like this? then do you simplify the fractions right?
oh oops lemme work on it again
is it like this? im really unsure what to do with the variables
distribute fractions and simplify
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
wdym distribute 🥲
yk how u did it for this
same thing for the variables
the variables here is wrong ??
Mothy
what about the 4^2y^8 if their exponents are different?
it doesnt matter
just multiply the first thing (4^2) ^ of the fracton and (y^8) power of fraction
u can take them as seperate things iykwim
like this??
ohhh so thats what you mean by separate i thought its like putting parenthesis
oh mb
like this???
huh we cant do that
huh
the denominator
wdym where is it
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can u explain how to simplify each side?
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if I have an equation similar to f(x) = 4x^4 - 16x^2, how can I go about finding the value of x that will give me a specific value for f(x).
ie. -16 = 4x^4 - 16x^2 (how do I get x by itself here)
I'm not sure but i would try to write it with X=x² and then resolve the quadratic equation
I would factor a 4x^2 out
I tried the factoring, which blew up in my face, but now that you say that, I think I was trying to factor our the wrong value. Ill try the substitution thing first, and if that doesnt work, I'll try the factoring again. Thanks guys!
Wait i didn’t understand the question fully at first and now i do. Im not completely sure the factoring is the way to go
Let me think for a moment
yeah no problem. (For some more info, I need to draw the graph of a similar equation. I have a rough idea of what the graph looks like, and I know that the range. So I am trying to figure out what the x value would be for the range that I know.)
You can divide everything by 4 first maybe
so that does make sense, but I still need to isolate that x somehow. Would the quadratic equation be able to help with those higher degree suckers?
sounds good, I'll give that a go and see what happens. I can get excel to give me the answer immediately, but on paper this is a bit of a pain lol
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can anyone explain the identity they use?
like i understand it's addition theorem but why doesn't it work with the unit circle diagram
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/409706781078454274/1019658864943173683/unknown.png like this, how are the y co-ordinates here equal
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oh sorry, basically i was using the unit circle diagram
so i converted to a positive sin using -sin(x) = sin(-x) so i ended up with sin(-11pi/7)
and the angle -11pi/7 can be thought of as clockwise from the x-axis by pi + 4pi/7
which is where the 4pi/7 comes from
and i'm trying to understand how with that logic the sin(-11pi/7) = sin(3pi/7)
,w -11pi/7 + 2pi
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it is a full rotation around the unit circle
The identity can be seen this way: $\sin(x + \pi) = \sin(x - \pi) = -\sin(\pi - x)$
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bruh
how did i miss that
that was literally the exact thing i was looking for
thanks tho
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damn you bill
if f is 1-1 and monotonically increasing, you know a lot about fof
i was typing
let me finish
imagine f is a conveyor belt that only moves forwards
that's monotonously increasing
then you put a copy of the belt onto itself
are you still always moving forwards?
from definition D:
definition of monotonically increasing
if x < y then f(x) <= f(y)
unless you're one of the strict guys
in which case it's f(x) < f(y)
yeah
and then using monotonically increasing
its also the monotonically increasing
otherwise you'll mess up stuff
yep
good good
x^2 - 3 wasn't it
anyway
seems like you got it
im out
whats ur
Q
i feel
if uve a new Q u shlda
just start a new thread
vxeR?
for all x in R?
is this another condition
or a separate question has this condition
i think
monotonically increasing f means
f' is >0 for all x in R
ditto decreasing g'
right
same
fill in with the same stuff
so then
we want to find if h is increasing or decreasing
essentially
h'
i think u use quotion rule on h
Did you say that that g(x) and f(x) are both >0
what happens when u use quotion on h
what the derivative of h in terms of f and g
I mean just based on intuition it is h(x) monotonically increasing yeah?
do this
The value is going up
ive a better way to explain this
so
monotonically increasing f means that f is convex right
and monotinically decreasing g means g is concave
however
g is lower bounded
thus g is the constant function
a positive constant
thus f* constant is also convex -> monotonically increasing
wew
why didnt i see this earlier
Yeah as long as they >0
I think I get what you’re saying
Okay ye
It’s def increasing
didnt we already kinda conclude that lol
anw im outa here
i got ignored like 6x
feels dank man
that's kinda hard to read, do you have a screenshot?
ah i see
the second line, should i read it as: $f(x) = 1 - \phi^2(x) - e^{2x} + 2e^{x}\phi(x) \ \ \forall x \in \mathbb R$ ?
Bungo
and in this context, does $\phi^2$ mean the (pointwise) square, or the composition of $\phi$ with itself?
Bungo
ok that looks correct
what does fmax mean?
oh max value of f, got it
well there's no reason to expect f(0) = 1, is there?
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real quick question
can some explain why some of these are horizontal translations
and some of them are vertical translations
idk how to like identify what each look like inside a function
omg help is here
Anything inside with x effects the x axis, anything outside effects the y axis. With green, because if bidmas, you do 2 abs(x) first, so the vertex is at y=0, then 3 is subtracted from the output, which lowers the y by three. You see this happening on purple as well, it’s raised 4 up, something else is happening here too as it’s been shifted by -2 in x axis. The way I like to think of this is, the vertex occurs when the abs(x) = 0, therefore the vertex will occur now when the x+2 = 0 therefore x =-2, which is why the graph is pushed that way on x
woah woah woah
i sort of get it but keep in mind i cheated my way into alegbra 2 so i have idea what some of those terms mean
What terms specifically
like about green and purple
could you re explain it
in simpler terms
i get the first sentencr
Ok I’ll have a go
So
Abs(x) has the sharp point when y=0, because that’s the whole point of absolutes values
But the -3 after abs(x) means that your entire graph is shifted downwards
Imagine every value you get, take 3 from it
ok i understand that
So that’s green
ok that too thats called a vertical translation right
For reference I’ll be calling the sharp point thing on the abs x graph a vertex, as that’s how I was taught
So it’s easier for me to explain
alright no problem
Purple:
For the graph y =abs(x), the vertex occurs when x= 0, when x < 0 the graph goes up again (because you take the absolute value) so in the case of abs(x+2) the vertex will still occur at the x position that makes x+2=0 which is x=-2, hence the shift to the left in the purple graph
Just like before, all values you get out, you need to add 4, this is why the graph is lifted up
got it
The same goes for that quadratic
The black one, y=x^2 has its turning point at x=0, (x-8)^2 has it at x=8
Hence the shift to the right of the black curve
I hope that makes sense
Np
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How does this work sheet just go from $$\frac{2x+6}{\frac{1}{2}x^{2}-\frac{3}{2}x}$$ to $$\frac{4(x+3)}{x(x-3)}$$?
Bolvarsdad
I don't see it
the denominator is (x^2 - 3x)/2
so the numerator 2x+6 is divided by this
u can rewrite as (2x+6) • 2/ (x^2 - 3x)
factor out 2 from numerator and x from denom
that’s how u get to that form
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Why did they multiply 3x and 4 x both sides
you mean to the numerator and denominator?
Yeah
so they could apply the limit identity for
$$\lim_{k\to0}\frac{\sin(k)}{k}$$
ℝamonov
Now I got this but how is it 4
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Can someone go through his they do 25
expanding the numerator seems like it would be ok to start with
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how do i solve this?
u have to look at the graph
and correctly identify the where the types of discount occur
so by looking at the graph i have to identify it
what is the definition of a jump discountinuity
when two sided limit doesn't exist
yea
so then what type of discount is that?
yes
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How to solve number 3?
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I need help with an abstract algebra proof that involved showing/proving a that a given function is/is not a sub group of the group g.
G= {G, +}, H={log (n): n in Z, n>0}
what's G?
also hiiii
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G is just like a general group
in this case, it is the addition group
hmmm
i know that some of the ways to prove is something is a subgroup is to see if it is
-
closed with respect to the opperation
-
closed with respect to the inverse
and maybe non-empty..?
le sigh i have 4 problems left...im never gonna get this done before 3 am
yesss you can do it
I rly am trying XD
is this exactly how the problem was stated?
so G is the real numbers with addition 🙂
yes (:
so you know the identity in H must be the same as the identity in G right?
yeah, e has to be equal in both H and G
what topic is this
can you write a few out?
yeah i can write out a few log values out
sounds fun
its not
haha yes it is
Result:
0
,calc log(2)
Result:
0.69314718055995
i thought complex analysis wouldnt hv any but it has so many series :c
,calc log(3)
Result:
1.0986122886681
notice anything?
well it passes 1
if log(2) is in H, what else needs to be in H for H to be a subgroup?
well n can be anything above 0
if it cant be 0 and 0 is the identity element than does that mean its not a sub group?
well 0 is in H
log(1) = 0
so that's ok
what else do we need for H to be a subgroup?
oh okay, i wish it wasnt lol, it would make this easier
haha
we need the inverse, right?
yep
hmm I think it's easier than you are thinking
you're probably right...
is -log(2) in H?
no
then that's all you need, log(2) has no inverse
maybe?
hold on, can we go over this a little more?
I am confused with the no inverse part
which sounds dumb..
ok so for H to be a subgroup it needs to be a group under + and be a subset of R
in order to be a group, one property it needs is that every element must have an inverse
log(2) is in H, but it's inverse (it's unique inverse in R) is -log(2) and that's not in H because -log(2) < 0
and log(n) >= 0 for any positive integer n
wait is that what the problem said?
the problem said that n>0
it didnt say anything about log(n)</> 0 or anything
oh it didn't say that but it's true
log is an (strictly) increasing function
so if log(1) = 0
then log(n) > 0 for any n > 1
below 1*
yeah XD
so, H is not a subgroup because log(n) cannot be be below 0 and therefore there are no inverses?
or something like that
sure that works
since the values for -log(2) do not exist if n>0
cool, ill probably be back....unfortunately..
thank you layla, i owe you big time, this has to be like the 5 time youve helped me
haha of course ❤️
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find the number of 4 digit natural numbers that can be formed that do not contain the digit 5?
so it would be from 1-9
so there would be 9 possibilities right?
but if we exclude the 5 it would be 8
youre forgetting about 0
wait but is 0 not apart of whole numbers?
for the first digit it is 8, for the other digits it is 9
and not natural numbers/
oh
which also does not contain 5
wait the answer is somehow 5832
k
for the first digit, you have 8 choices: 1-4 or 6-9
for the other digits you have 9 choices: 0-4 or 6-9
since the number is 4 digits you have 8x9x9x9
8x9x9x9=5832
wait but how come the first one we exclude 0?
(e.g.) 0123 is not considered a 4 digit number
it is considered a 3 digit number with a leading zero
wait one more question
in some cases, some people consider it a natural number because the definition for a natural number is controversial
like some people say "natural numbers count objects so it starts at 1, instead 0 is a WHOLE number"
negative numbers fall under integers blah blah
most people just say positive integers for those greater than 0 and nonnegative integers for those greater than OR EQUAL to 0
reduces confusion
k thx man
yup np
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ive tried writing the initial x and y velocity components in terms of the total velocity times cos and sin theta respectively to see if i could derive the time of flight but no luck
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The equations for projectiles
So yeh
S = 300
U= 0
V= v
A= 800
T=t
That’s the horizontal axis, you see how I got those variables
Specifically u=0
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No what is u
Is it the horizontal acceleration?
Or dy
Oh it’s initial velocity
How is it 0
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Hello, Is there a way to know which number system they are using without trial and error?
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First time encountering these kinds of problem, Kind of stuck.
suppose estallarium used base B
then 291=1+9B+2B^2
where we can write B in our very cool decimal number system
do that for the rest
you get a qudratic equation for B
well its fairly easy honestly, if you imagine that whatever their base was, their addition at the end comes out to 0 in the final answer, so if u add all the unit digits, you get ur answer :D
tru
or u can do what @past flame is saying for better understanding of the base system instead of the problem directly
i'd suggest both
Hmmmm, Thanks, I will try it.
Wdym by this?
in any base, to get a 0 at the units digit, you need to have the sum be equal to the base itself
so if u add 1 + 3 + 1 + 4 + 3, u get 12 here
but the professor writes the last digit as 0 in his answer, right?
so it must mean that he's using base 12
OH OK.
well having the sum of units being a multiple of the base works just as well
ah yes but then u check tens and hundreds and so on ;-;
ye
Wait, Where did this equation come from?
the unit digits of the numbers
this case is special since they have a 9 in their system, so all the factors of 12 are eliminated instantly haha
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Need help solving "Find for which values of x and y the expression A=(x+y-2)^2+(2x-y-1)^2+13 has the lowest value"
I'm at system of linear equations
do I put it as
|(x+y-2)^2=0
|(2x-y-1)^2+13=0
I solved it for x and y
ignoring the +13
in the second line
but am I right?
x+y-2=0
2x-y-1=0
why the hell did you ignore the 13
first solve (2x-y-1)^2
and your question is quite weird and confusing
lowest value of x and y
?
it should be, this is a problem for excellent preparation
gimme a min
let me first
solve
ty
why did you even cut this equation into 2
dosent make sense at all
because
and also
pls for the love of god
let me solve
then ping
so because
fine
I solved problems of the sort: "Find for which values of x and y the equation is true: (x+2y)^2+(y+2)^2=0"
somehow I have to work with system of linear equations
so
x+2y=0
y+2=0
y=-2
x-4=0
x=4
before the type of problems
I'm currently (this one) solving
Does it become 2x-y-1=-13 ?
or do I have to simplify it first?
you distribute the ^2 i suppose
i dont know what youre even looking for
neither ive seen this type of question before
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I don't know the Formula name in english but how do i calcute 2ab in a² - 2ab + b²
is 2ab : 2 x a x b OR 2 x a + b
2×a×b
Okay thankss
yess thats the name i was trying to look for
tyty
you're welcome
How do i apply the formula on the B ?
Salut Maë. Developes les formules avec les identités remarquables
Salut, oui je sais qu'il faut utiliser les identités remarquables mais je ne sais pas faire sur les fractions
Et je divise ou je laisse les fractions comme elles sont ?
Developes et à la fin tu remets les fractions
D'accord mercii
Ou sont a et b?
J'ai fais 5/2² et 4/3²
5a/2² = 25a/4
5a/2 au carré donne 25a^2/4
Ahh et après je fais la même pour le b
Pour B pareil
B= 16b²/9
Yep
Ah le ² va au neuf non?
800ab² / 72
woo cool langauge
-2×5a/2×4b/3
Les 2 s'annulent
-5a×4b/3
Donc -20ab/3
Pourquoi as-tu viré les fractions ?
Non j'ai commencer par les numérateurs
Ah donc 40a/ 12b
Y'a pas a faire de carrés dans -2AB.
là j'ai pas fais de carrés, J'ai fais 2 x 5a x 4b= 40
Puis 2 x 2 x 3 = 12
C'est bon ?
Faut annuler le 2 quand il y a plusieurs?
tu as mis 4b ?
Il est originale 🤣
Du coup le résultat c'est 20ab/3
okay billy
on peut faire le 1er aussi?
Donc Maë, écris toute la solution.
la solution? genre le résultat
Peux-tu la remettre la 1ère question, elle est perdue en haut maintenant.
c'était pas si compliqué ça va
Il me porte a confusion 😂 mais j'arrive a le distinguer maintenant
et le résultat c'est..
Y'a pas, faut juste développer, non?
(4x² - 8x + 4)
- (9 - 12x + 4x)
-8x pas -8x^2
je continue a développer ?
Non
9-12x+4x^2
Maintenant assembles les 2 parenthèses
Je fais de mon côté
La réponse est courte.
Nope!
4x-5
Je peux voir ton calcul pour voir comment tu as trouver ça
J'avais oublier qu'il fallait annuler..
moi j'avais calculer les 2 parenthèses Developper
C'est quoi ça ????
Ben j'ai soustrais ça
fallait me dire qu'il fallait seulement assembler les parenthèses d'origine
Alors j'enlève juste le x
Non
Je refais ton calcule
J'essaye de trouver une analogie pour te faire comprendre.
Je vais le refaire sans griller d'étapes.
Comment tu as trouver (2x-2)² = 8x + 4 ?
(2x - 2)² = 0 ?
Ah je sais, la règles des signes
J'ai fais ça mais j'ai pas trouver 4x -5 ..
Je pense pas avoir brûlé d'étape.
Le plus important, c'est que tu ne peux pas additionner des x^2 avec des x et avec des nombre.
J'ai rajouté une étape
Je regroupe les x^2 ensembles, puis les x puis les nombres. On mélange pas les torchons avec les serviettes.
et le 8x + 12x tu l'a annulé ?
-8x+12x
ah oui donc = 0
J'ai tout compris maintenant
Ils demandent une 2ème méthodes, je suppose que c'est (a+b) (a-b) = a² - b²
Ouaip
j'avais essayer hier soir et ça m'a fait 4x² - 4x²
Si tu te mélange pas tu obtiens 4x-5
Bon je recommence pour avoir 4x-5
Du tout!!!
montre
J'ai factoriser enfait
j'ai pas développer
Attend non puisque la formule c'est (a+b) (a-b) = a² - b²
Et (a+b) (a-b) c'est (2x-2)² - (3-2x)²
Faut que tu arrêtes de mélanger les x^2 avec les x et les nombres.
Ok j'ai compris le calcule
Faut pas mélanger les torchons avec les serviettes, jamais.
C'est ton erreur récurrente, dans notre discussion
Tu regroupes les x^2 avec les x^2, les x avec les x, et les nombres sans rien avec avec les nombres sans rien avec.
Quand tu lis , remplace x^2 par patates, les x par pomme.
D'accorddd Je vais faire ça, est-ce que tu sera disponible plus tard? je vais faire une pause mais j'ai besoin d'aide dans d'autre exercices
Pas de soucis, mp moi si je suis en ligne. Bonne journée, moi je vais pioncer.
Bonne nuit!
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A group of 40 campers decided to buy a gift for the guide.
10 more campers joined the group, so each camper paid two shekels less
of the amount planned to be paid. In total, the amount of money collected was 20 shekels more
from the amount needed to buy the gift. How much money did each pay?
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What have you tried
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Can someone help me with this?
From my linear algebra class, I know i'm supposed to come up with equations to create a system of equations
that means its min and max points are those coordinates right
yeah
so u know then the gradient is 0 when x = those numbers
but the linear algebra needs to be applied here, which is what I'm struggling with
yes
so u gotta use matrices?
yes
I did something weird and it seems wrong
let me show my work
okay go for it
I plugged the numbers and got 2 equations, then I took the derivative and plug again and got 2 more equations
but this feels wrong
i ended up with a quadratic equation 💀
we only have an online meeting once in a week, we basically have to teach ourselves linear algebra 😭
so youre using reduced echelon form?
okay so for that you dont actually have to make it entirely the identity matrix
this is a trick i was taught
only make everything underneath the line of 1s in the identity matrix a 0
and then use simul and subbing in to work it out from there
okay I will try that now
but is this approach a good idea?
taking the derivative as well
no cause the derrivate finds the equation of a tangent to the line
so its a different equation
subbing in another number to original eq is better
hm yeah
sorry man im stumped ill see if i can think of anything
its like half 10 so im half asleep ahah
no worries man, thank you still! 🙏
dudeeee
when its the differential
u know its equal to 0
as its the turning points
points of inflection
Yeah
so
make it equal to 0
not 2
and stuff
wait
no
cazoz
wait yeah u cant do differential
cause its another equation
hm
could u plug in some random numbers and give it a go
I’m currently in the online tutoring center (apparently my college has that)
this is exactly what the guy just did
but he didnt finish it lol, just showed me that
im gonna do it and see if the website accepts the result
ahah fair enough okay
damn useful
lucky you man i dont have shet ahah
gonna try this, brb
that was it!
what making the differentials equal 0?
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supposedly this problem is a lot easier with Parsavels
e^imt form an orthogonal basis
so the norm of g(t) is just the sum of the squares of the coefficients
taking modulus ofc cuz you have complex coeffs
so its just 1/2pi int 0 to 2 pi of g(t)^2?
im confused how parsevels comes into play here
that integral is the squared norm of g wrt the inner product
correct
to compute the norm of a vector
where you have an orthonormal basis
you take the sum for the squared coeffs
I know how to compute the norm however my instructor said to use parsevals, and that isnt parsevals right?
i mean id have to find the ak values
so basically take the integral with respect to e^ikt
- g(t)
then just square that right
whatever computes
basically that
then square the result
would be parsevals right?
correct
you can see that g is a linear combination of the basis
so you can see the coefficients
there's no need to compute integrals to get them
the coefficient of 1 is 2
the coefficient of e^-3it is 6
the coefficient of e^5it is -i
add the sum of squares* and you're done
(not actually sum of squares but sum of square absolute values)
so essentially it would be 4 + 36 -1
or am I totally misunderstanding
|-i|^2 = 1
so 41?
that's all there is to it
huh we were never taught that
well your formulas suggest otherwise
yeah, thats true I guess I just didnt understand it was that simple
that we were GIVEN the basis
i mean
how else did you think extracting the coefficients worked
you need to take an inner product with the basis in the first place
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it's asking for the perimeter. Do you know what that is?
Yes
Ohh I see I’m stupid the answer should be 48
😭😭
Could u help me with this please I have no idea what I’m doing
can you show the figure at the right?
ok cool
Steakanator
Yes angle RTS
can you draw the angle on that figure?
Yea? Does it form a L
it depends on the size of the angle
perhaps more important, do you know what this means?
I don’t know what the thing in between the letters mean
it means "perpendicular"
Ohh alright
for two line segments to be perpendicular, what must the angle between them measure?
I don’t know tbh
what is the defining characteristic of a right triangle?
90 degrees?
yes
two line segments are perpendicular when the angle between them measures 90 degrees
you have an expression for the size of the angle, and you know what it must be numerically
all that's left is to find x that makes them equal
Can you just tell me the answer pls this is to stressful
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Ok do you know a place to go where I can actually get the answers instead of wasting my time
just getting the answers would be wasting your time
going through the problems and actually learning the techniques is never a waste
It literally is tho I’m never gonna use any of this in the real world lol but ok💀
ok then, good luck
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hello there pops
f(x)= (x +1)
j(x) = x²- 1
g(x) = (x-1)
k(x) = 2x² + 3x + 1
l(x) = 2x² - x – 1
find : (j ○ f)(4)
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Ok so do you know how to factor $x^2-1$
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