serious-discussion

[wild lantern]

Ryc pls don't throw shade at pretzel sticks like this

[vast surge]

I am truly a self-contradictory person

Wait shit you're not an adult?

[deep mango]

Pretzels are SO BAD if they're not soft

[vast surge]

They were soft pretzels

[deep mango]

Oh

Well then that's good

[wild lantern]

Okay, I'll admit soft pretzels are superior in every way.

[deep mango]

my bad

[vast surge]

With salt large enough to be visible

[deep mango]

Did you have mustard with them

[vast surge]

Made in the oven behind the bar

[deep mango]

Wow

[vast surge]

No, I had a house-made cheese dip

[wild lantern]

But there's a craving in all of our souls for hard pretzel sticks that cannot be denied.

[deep mango]

Cheese dip is acceptable

[alpine kindle]

no I'm 16 lmao
I've mentioned this on countless occasions

[vast surge]

Jesus christ you're young.

You're, like, the age of the kids I'm going to be teaching this summer

[wild lantern]

Hard pretzel sticks are basically just rounded saltines actually

[alpine kindle]

what are you teaching them?

[vast surge]

Number theory. I might try to sneak in a galois theory lecture at some point though

[alpine kindle]

lmao

based

galois theory at 16

[vast surge]

I'll just be leading small group learning sessions and marking homeworks though, I'm not the one giving the number theory lectures

[alpine kindle]

aw

[bronze pelican]

galois was 16 18 when he invented galois theory

[deep mango]

Galois was 1 when he invented galois theory

[vast surge]

Galois was

[wild lantern]

Galois was galois when he invented galois.

[alpine kindle]

are you sure

[bronze pelican]

its just a theory... a galois theory

[vast surge]

Anyway you'd like it. If you know a bit of algebra you should have enough prereqs for something like Stewart's book.

[deep mango]

Stewarts calculus is a differential galois theory book

[azure nymph]

Abelian recruiting for Algebra like it's football season

[alpine kindle]

I don't think i know the field/ring theory yet

[vast surge]

I was thinking of this: https://www.routledge.com/Galois-Theory/Stewart/p/book/9781482245820

[alpine kindle]

but I'll check it out sometime

[wild lantern]

Algebra gud

[deep mango]

I see

Is it the same stewart

[vast surge]

Ah. Then something like Pinter might work.

[wild lantern]

Pinter is good!

[bronze pelican]

some guy on yt recomended Harold M Edwards - Galois Theory as a first book for Abstract algebra

[alpine kindle]

I'm reading artin rn

[vast surge]

Oh I heard about that.

I haven't actually read Edwards, I'll need to check it out.

[alpine kindle]

it's very good

[wild lantern]

Artin seems more in depth than pinter

[alpine kindle]

it might take a while to get to galois theory

[vast surge]

No. Calculus is James Stewart, galois theory is Ian Stewart

[deep mango]

Turns out stewart is a kind of common last name

this is not as bad as Riesz

[vast surge]

I like Pinter more for the pedagogy than the depth of material.

[alpine kindle]

i have a quite long list of books

[azure nymph]

How long does it take you to read an algebra book Abelian

[wild lantern]

The exercises in pinter were great

[vast surge]

Depends on the book.

[bronze pelican]

yamin is gonna be a common last name in mathematics once i grow up

[vast surge]

Yeah, Pinter's exercises are phenomenal.

[azure nymph]

Something like Pinter I guess

[wild lantern]

There's a galois theory book by a different artin I think lol

[vast surge]

I read about half of Pinter in a semester for my first algebra course.

[alpine kindle]

i imagine emil artin
the famous one

[bronze pelican]

you read half a pint of algebra

[vast surge]

Typically in a math course I'll read 220 or so pages of textbook, which is about half a book, but I'll have 3 or 4 each semester

[wild lantern]

Yep pretty sure

[alpine kindle]

emil artin has all these things named after him

whereas his son is known for an undergraduate linear / abstract algebra textbook

[wild lantern]

They're actually related?

[alpine kindle]

yes

[vast surge]

They're farter and son.

[alpine kindle]

michael artin is Emil's son

[frozen merlin]

wait the artinian ring person is not the artin algebra person?

[wild lantern]

I did not know this. I thought it was a coincidence lol.

[frozen merlin]

that's crazy

[vast surge]

It's his daddy

[alpine kindle]

nope it's his dad

[azure nymph]

Oh you read it for a course?

[vast surge]

Yeah

[wild lantern]

You could probably do it faster outside of a semester

[azure nymph]

I think my advisor used "Abstract Algebra - Theory and Applications" when he taught the course a few years ago

[vast surge]

Oh easily. It's not a hard book.

[wild lantern]

Is that the judson one?

[vast surge]

Kenshin you listen to MCR?

[azure nymph]

Yes and yes

Well now it's blink-182

[sturdy inlet]

hey

you have 1+1

this is a sum of two parcels?

what is the correct word? xd

like 1+1+1 is a sum of three parcels?

[fervent pebble]

what

[wild lantern]

Integers, natural numbers, real numbers?

[fervent pebble]

^

[wild lantern]

There's a lot of words you could mean by parcel.

[fervent pebble]

just number, too

[sturdy inlet]

like

this is a sum of two functions? parcels?

[fervent pebble]

where are you seeing that

[sturdy inlet]

the paper from goodfellow about GANs

[sick burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-alerted-the-horse-horse-gt-when-the-gif-24722142

@dense belfry when someone says something mildly incorrect

[dense belfry]

Lol

That's amazing

I just showed this to my kid sister and she laughed too

[ancient flame]

saving this for future use

[sick burrow]

damn I got the whole squad laughing

[ancient flame]

squad of 2

3*

[fervent pebble]

four!

[ancient flame]

🙄

[fervent pebble]

wow

[vast surge]

This is indeed Emma

[cinder zephyr]

https://twitter.com/depthsofwiki/status/1537762925905170436?t=CDIJLcnppUxIUaMnc-HsYA&s=19

depths of wikipedia (@depthsofwiki)

https://t.co/ln4OgAek9v

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Me with my pile of textbooks in my apartment

• all the ones downloaded to my ipad

[open aspen]

i wish I wasnt broke and could afford to buy physical textbooks

[fervent pebble]

i'm broke too!

my parents are not, thankfully

[charred mortar]

This is me with my 50 textbook pdfs

(also my game library with like 30 games I haven’t even touched)

(And then I go back to playing starcraft which I have like thousands of hours on)

[waxen lily]

relatable

however some ppl just like the bookshelf aesthetic

[charred mortar]

It’s a cool aesthetic yeah

Can also be reasonably cheap if you get second-hand books tbh

It’s a shame the second-hand bookstores near me don’t sell math texts

maybe I should go dumpster diving for math textbooks

[near temple]

If it's just for the aesthetic why not just get cheap junk books?

[azure nymph]

My movie backlog is like that

[charred mortar]

Yeah that’s what I meant

Or even get good cheap books

[azure nymph]

You can buy books by the foot

[charred mortar]

Second-hand stores have some good fiction usually if you search for it

[stark charm]

the aesthetic is bad in my opinion

[arctic grove]

not caring about IITs is always a plus

?

[errant ridge]

what's up shyshu

good morning

[errant ridge]

jee adv

fuckin jee

[arctic grove]

nothing much

just chillin

and dying out of worrying about exams

so nothing out of the ordinary

[arctic grove]

advanced is on 28th august

u will be not free for like 2 months

and advanced isnt light like mains

its a hellhole

so

enjoy....

[errant ridge]

I'm gonna take over the jee question paper setting centers and make them put only 24 questions for 3 hours but they're all advanced undergraduate math, phys and chem

yes i want highschool students to solve undergrad problems to get into undergrad

[charred mortar]

Soon we’ll require students to understand graduate-level math to enter middle school

[errant ridge]

There was actually a middle school student on youtube who was doing graduate level math

he has this youtube channel where he teaches stuff

well now he's 17, so this was like 4 years ago

he was like 13 and doing algebraic topology or something lol

[charred mortar]

Damn

[errant ridge]

ikr i wish i had that much free time

[charred mortar]

ngl sometimes it feels like that’s the average user here

Honestly though I think it’s really cool

[errant ridge]

it is really cool!

[charred mortar]

it’s nice to see students take advantage of all the great stuff available online

[errant ridge]

i know right there's literally so many good resources online that you can teach yourself whatever you want if u had enough time

lemme try to find his channel

https://youtube.com/c/Fematika

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

and that gives me a lot of imposter syndrome

[errant ridge]

how to avoid imposter syndrome:

step 1: not care about what anyone else thinks of you

step 2: tell yourself "im not smart...yet" meaning you will learn and get smarter

[arctic grove]

i will spend extra time learning maths and physics, about a whole 2 months!

[errant ridge]

i however can only do the first step because i have 0 brain cells

[arctic grove]

i will give u impostor syndrome

[arctic grove]

shutupp

[errant ridge]

impossible because when i come across someone who's smarter than me (which is everyone) the only thing going through my mind is "I can learn so much stuff from them"

[errant ridge]

shyshu did u see?

[errant ridge]

fematika, guy was doing manifolds when he was 13

[arctic grove]

wowie

[arctic grove]

yeah

i am seeing it

and getting more impostor syndrome

why am i so dumb

[charred mortar]

When I come across someone smarter, I consider consuming their brain

[errant ridge]

[wild lantern]

I feel like most of the people I've run into here who seem to know a lot aren't super young

[arctic grove]

tbh i have that attitude now

but when i joined this server

i was thinking

[neat lintel]

Thats abad idea

[arctic grove]

man im an idiot

[neat lintel]

You coukd get infected

[charred mortar]

But what if I’m a zombie

[neat lintel]

You are?

[errant ridge]

that's the norm, and there's nothing with that, life is a marathon not a race

[charred mortar]

Maybe I am

[errant ridge]

good

[arctic grove]

jee students: fuck you say to me u little shit?

[errant ridge]

you are

Lmao kidding

[arctic grove]

wow..

[errant ridge]

Lmaooo

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

i was kiddinggg!!

[arctic grove]

im gonna cry now

[errant ridge]

[errant ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-dancing-lizard-cry-about-it-gecko-dance-gif-20175430

Lmao

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

that gif though

funny af

[errant ridge]

again kidding

[errant ridge]

top tier gen z humor

random

and stupid af

and im loving it

gonna eat see ya

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

[ripe wasp]

i don't get imposter syndrome if i see someone like fermatika bc i know they're just cracked af and on a different level but i get imposter syndrome when i do really trash on a math competition or can't solve something i really should be able to solve

[arctic grove]

sean....

u are one of the reasons i get impostor syndrome

[errant ridge]

[bright hill]

I have impostor syndrome

[arctic grove]

i am impostor syndrome

[bright hill]

Coz I'm always sus 😎

[errant ridge]

walter white moment

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

shyshu: "you think I have imposter syndrome? I AM THE IMPOSTER SYNDROME"

[bright hill]

(no spoilers please)

[errant ridge]

you haven't watched breaking bad?

[arctic grove]

i havent either

but i know that scene

[errant ridge]

you should after the exams, it's literally one of the best shows ever

[bright hill]

Ye, not entirely

I'm on season 4

[errant ridge]

Nice

have you seen the train heist yet?

[arctic grove]

ik

[arctic grove]

the what

[errant ridge]

Lmao

[arctic grove]

u spoiled the show for me!

[errant ridge]

don't worry

[arctic grove]

never gonna see it now

[errant ridge]

don't worry you'll forget I said that by the time you actually get to that episode

[arctic grove]

lol

[shrewd bobcat]

just read the most disgusting shit ever someone post pics of puppies

[errant ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/running-puppies-dogs-stampede-so-many-puppies-gif-4994790

[errant ridge]

go to #cats and keep spamming "T!cat"

[shrewd bobcat]

this is pure praeteritio i'm about to say. don't ask me what i read.

[errant ridge]

don't say it

[shrewd bobcat]

whatever you say

[errant ridge]

I've seen and read enough cursed stuff to know that I shouldn't ever see or read it

[shrewd bobcat]

you must know i mean you have an anime profile pic

[errant ridge]

I don't intentionally have it

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

normally I'd have a meme profile pic

[arctic grove]

neam weeb

confirmed

[errant ridge]

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

not a weeb

[arctic grove]

based

[errant ridge]

damn right

[arctic grove]

you know what would be more based?

[errant ridge]

going to do problems

[arctic grove]

yessir

go do them

go offline

rn

[errant ridge]

I am offline

[arctic grove]

cheatingggggg

[shrewd bobcat]

i just read the most fucked up shit ever

[errant ridge]

lmao

[shrewd bobcat]

what is life

[errant ridge]

no one told you to do that

stop doing the same thing again and again

[shrewd bobcat]

i did it cuz i was interested in the junko furuta case or some shit

[errant ridge]

[shrewd bobcat]

i want to change the topic

[errant ridge]

manifolds

[shrewd bobcat]

what is that

[errant ridge]

it's basically like a curved surface

but not a 2D surface, it can be any dimensional not just 2

and it can be curved in whatever way you want or it can also be flat

but when you zoom into it, it should look kinda like euclidean space

[shrewd bobcat]

that's the broadest term ever

[errant ridge]

manifolds are broad!!

[shrewd bobcat]

imagine 467328957D manifold

[arctic grove]

neam about to manifold pill posato

[errant ridge]

[errant merlin]

one day you're gonna run out of people to teach about manifolds sadly

[errant ridge]

on average 4 babies are born every second on earth

so...no

[errant merlin]

fair

[shrewd bobcat]

teach my little brother manifolds

[errant ridge]

and on average 2 people die every second

[shrewd bobcat]

he doesn't even know what dimensions are

[errant ridge]

so the net gain is 2

per second

on average

[shrewd bobcat]

glycolysis moment

[errant ridge]

don't know shit about glycolysis

yet

[shrewd bobcat]

well it includes 4+ and 2- with net gain of 2

[arctic grove]

yet?

[errant ridge]

[shrewd bobcat]

💀

[arctic grove]

neam about to study everything a uni can teach

[shrewd bobcat]

advanced indian literature

[errant ridge]

https://youtu.be/t17O2AKa2FU

[shrewd bobcat]

title's misleading

i expected a yell

[errant ridge]

bbc be like

[arctic grove]

lol

[normal sluice]

Has anyone here used lean before? I had an intro class in it and I proved a couple of simple theorems. It feels very satisfying.

Can you realistically use it to double check or help out with more advanced proofs? And if so what does that look like?

[stiff aurora]

it drug

[compact tartan]

most modern proof assistants suffer from hitting a ceiling when it comes to introducing higher abstractions

it usually takes 10x the time to prove something in a proof assistant as opposed to an intuitive proof by a human

[waxen lily]

i often see interesting questions in the help channels which i dont know the answer. how can i keep tabs on a help channel without disrupting it?

it would be cool if you could privately pin messages to remember them

[surreal sapphire]

the only thing i can think of is copy message link and save in separate txt document

[waxen lily]

yeah that sucks

might be the only way

I have servers just to save links for myself

[bronze pelican]

Part of becoming a researcher is getting into good habits about documenting your work

Documenting references and citations

Cause like, you can be putting in good work to figure things out, but if you don't document it, you will forget it

[errant ridge]

damn

[arctic grove]

gonna carry a notebook around with me

[errant ridge]

to solve every single integral you come across

[arctic grove]

noooooooo

no integrals!

[errant ridge]

[arctic grove]

sorry

i dont make the rules

[errant ridge]

lol you're gonna flip when you find out that there's 3 different kinds of integrals in multivariable calc and the two fundamental theorems both have integrals in them

[arctic grove]

3?

line, surface, and volume?

[errant ridge]

yess

[arctic grove]

not gonna flip now

[errant ridge]

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

you are when you're gonna be doing them

[arctic grove]

what if i casually stroll through them

[errant ridge]

too bad you can't because you wanna learn physics

[arctic grove]

no i mean

what if i find them easy

then what

[errant ridge]

i don't think graduate QM has easy integrals

[arctic grove]

no one starts with graduate QM

u gradually learn

[surreal sapphire]

graduate(ly)

[errant ridge]

you learn by struggling with difficult problems

as you struggle you learn and grow

so you're gonna have to find some integrals difficult

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

sure lol

but im a genius

i will get through it

[errant ridge]

true

shyshu of the golden genius

[arctic grove]

Im joking lmaoo

i will definitely struggle

but we will get through it

a few integrals arent enough to stop me

[errant ridge]

that's the spirit

[arctic grove]

hey det!

capreeevee missed u

[placid quartz]

uwu

hewwo

[arctic grove]

[placid quartz]

[arctic grove]

hello

long time no see!

[placid quartz]

yea >.<

[arctic grove]

hows uni going

u graduate soon, yes?

[placid quartz]

oh it's already over :p

[arctic grove]

oh yeah its june

what are u thinking of doing now

[placid quartz]

masters

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/354002153809117184.webp?size=160&quality=lossless

[arctic grove]

noice!

still at cmi?

[placid quartz]

haven't fully decided where i'll go >.<

but most likely not cmi

[arctic grove]

Oo

come to an iiser! i might meet u there

lol

[placid quartz]

oooh

which iiser you in?

[arctic grove]

im not in any rn

but i will most probably end up in iiser pune or bhopal

[bright hill]

This sounds like a Convo with slurp but less aggressive

[arctic grove]

what is that supposed to mean

[arctic grove]

so come over to one of those

[bright hill]

[arctic grove]

and i will show u all my eevee emojis

[placid quartz]

one of these places is very close to where i live >.<

[arctic grove]

ooog

[empty stratus]

Do you have emojis for the evolved forms as well?

[arctic grove]

bhopal is very close to where i live

[arctic grove]

i suppose so

[arctic grove]

(i will probably take my iiser aptitude test at iiser bhopal)

[arctic grove]

i might have more

but i will need to search

[errant ridge]

bro I swear shyshu knows everyone in this server

[empty stratus]

While I love Charizard, I must point out that it is not in Eevee's evolutionary line.

[arctic grove]

i talk a lot

[arctic grove]

sure

thats why i posted espeon

[empty stratus]

Does Shyshu know Eyeball Jake?

[errant ridge]

instead of studying?

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-sus-camera-ngl-thats-kinda-sus-bro-gif-22434863

[arctic grove]

i am studying!

im solving questions rn

[errant ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-rock-gif-21708339

[arctic grove]

eyeball jake?

hmmmm

not that i can think of anyone with that name

[empty stratus]

He eats eyeballs, among other things.

[arctic grove]

[empty stratus]

He also has no eyeballs of his own.

And uses others'.

Prior to eating them.

He can also crawl on walls like Spider-man.

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

that's me

[arctic grove]

thats an interesting character trope

[errant ridge]

you got me

[empty stratus]

And spin his head around like in the Exorcist.

[arctic grove]

tho might be a but much

I havent seen the exorcist
and i dont plan to

[empty stratus]

Oh no, not for the story it's going to be in.

[arctic grove]

[empty stratus]

He also has several meters of prehensile tongue.

He's missing most of his teeth.

Mostly bald.

Short.

Capable of bending his limbs/joints in any direction.

Carries a satchel filled with eyeballs for him to snack on.

Sometimes speaks in rhyme.

My name is Eyeball Jake,
Your eyeballs, I shall take,
And bake them into cake,
To eat them by a lake.

Sing, Muse! Sing of EYEBALLS!
Gloriosa! Gloriosa!
O sweetest fruit! O piercing orbs! Of thee, I sing!
EYEBALLS, EYEBALLS, SING A SONG OF EYEBALLS!

(He's pretty crazy.)

So, yes, this is Eyeball Jake.

[arctic grove]

damn

[empty stratus]

Oh, and he uses the tongue to extract and eat the eyeballs.

Once he takes both of yours, you instantly die.

And he also gets your memories.

He's the sketchiest member of the heroes' team.

[arctic grove]

very...interesting

[empty stratus]

He's quite good at breaking and entering.

[arctic grove]

tho that might make me not sleep for days

[empty stratus]

But he has this annoying habit of disappearing at random intervals to go feast on the eyeballs of the innocent.

[maiden bear]

[empty stratus]

One of the main characters of this story is a cursed genius who suffers from crippling depression. He's planning on killing himself before his curse turns him into a beast of burden incapable of communication, but, until then, he distracts himself from the misery of his own existence by pretending the world is an RPG.

He gives things HP, MP, stats, etc.

Just to make life slightly more interesting.

[arctic grove]

hmmmmmmm

thats something more stories should have

easy and nice way to add some weight

[empty stratus]

It's called LitRPG.

[arctic grove]

pretty lit

[empty stratus]

It's normally pretty bad.

But I'm going to be parodying it.

For example: he'll give himself experience points for defeating enemies.

But...

he never levels up.

[arctic grove]

thats very bleak

[empty stratus]

He will increase his stats from time to time, when he feels that his skills have improved.

[empty stratus]

He's part of a race of geniuses that turn into big, fuzzy wingless dragons in their late 20s, and are incapable of communicating in any way except to their close families members, via telepathy.

The setting this happens in is filled with insanity.

For example, if a couple wants to have children, unless at least one of the people in the couple has an STD, the male will have to eat the female after sex in order for a child to be produced.

The child and the female will eventually emerge from the male by budding.

In some places, you only have nightmares, and the nightmares come alive and try to kill you.

[arctic grove]

[empty stratus]

There's an STD that turns people into trees.

Gargoyles eat personality attributes.

[arctic grove]

how did u even think of that

[empty stratus]

Slowly, over time.

[arctic grove]

[empty stratus]

Anyhow, the fuzzy dragons emit an anti-bullshit aura.

And anything in it is immune to these crazy rules.

As a result, virtually all of this race exists in a state of perpetual slavery.

You see, if the adults do not have children to communicate with telepathically, their intelligence will drive them insane.

So, control the children, control the parents.

I also like the idea that there's a seasonal virus which causes zombie apocalypses.

"Okay, everybody, remember, tomorrow is the first day of Zombie Season, so batten down the hatches and prepare for the undead hordes to sweep across the land."

[arctic grove]

thats actually a nice concept

good take on zombies

[empty stratus]

Oooh! Idea!

There's a fly. Very small. Very hard to see. If it bites you, you turn into graffiti.

[arctic grove]

making them seasonal makes them more interesting

[arctic grove]

graffiti?

[empty stratus]

Yes. Or a tattoo.

[empty stratus]

They still spread the infection by biting.

[arctic grove]

and wha thappens when the season is over

[empty stratus]

They go dormant.

No.

[arctic grove]

[empty stratus]

They grow seeds.

The seeds spread through the wind.

And sow the next year's crop of zomies.

[arctic grove]

damn

[empty stratus]

Oooh. Another one: head-hair bleeds when cut.

And you can die from the blood loss.

Another: there's a certain direction. If you look in exactly that direction, you turn to stone.

[neat lintel]

@cinder zephyr advanced lounge would be more fitting

[cinder zephyr]

Hm ok

[bright hill]

I'm undergraduate now

@Undergraduate

Doesn't work

[surreal sapphire]

it shouldnt

[bright hill]

What's the new roles' purpose anyways?

[surreal sapphire]

mostly indicate mathematics knowledge

its nice to know who you are talking to

[sleek wing]

Wait do I have this

[bright hill]

I see

[surreal sapphire]

have what?

[stark charm]

i just want colors to be honest

[bright hill]

The role, probably

[bright hill]

Ikr

That's why I need mod perms asap

[stark charm]

if I could have an orange name that would be cool

[compact tartan]

yalls asking if it is colored is precisely why it's not colored

[next schooner]

imagine not having any of the new roles

[sleek wing]

Modddssssss review my application moddddsssss

Mniipppp adminnnn

[compact tartan]

why did you attach your feet pics

[cyan goblet]

i think i need to review his application too...

[surreal sapphire]

i do not

[bright hill]

It's not colored so that we'd ask why it's not colored?

[surreal sapphire]

this might be surprising but the primary purpose of a role on this server is not to provide color

[maiden bear]

[surreal sapphire]

and we dont want people to want a role only for the color

[empty stratus]

To make sure we could properly picture them?

[sleek wing]

It was a mandatory question

[bright hill]

That's no fun

[sick burrow]

what does the graduate+ role indicate

[compact tartan]

#info

[sick burrow]

I read it

it was vague specifically with regards to people on the border between undergrad and grad level math

for example what role do I have if I'm studying some topics at a graduate level but others only at an advanced undergraduate level

[maiden bear]

well it's probably referring to your degree

[bright hill]

Just apply for graduate coz clout

Smh

[bright hill]

No

[sick burrow]

that's sorta what I figured? With the exception of sufficiently advanced highschoolers or undergrads

[maiden bear]

oh i didnt read far enough

[compact tartan]

you're probably fine considering they let me in

[maiden bear]

[sick burrow]

I think you're more advanced than me though

[stark charm]

beuh

why submit an application

[sick burrow]

like I'm solidly undergrad level in algebra and analysis

[stark charm]

if no color

[surreal sapphire]

imagine spending nontrivial amount of time on writing down the changes in #info and #changelog only for nobody to read them

couldnt be me

(it wasnt)

[stark charm]

imagine submitting an application for no color

[bright hill]

*sigh*

Time to speed run math to get the graduate role

[cyan goblet]

imagine if you had to take a qual exam to get the grad role

[bright hill]

[stark charm]

is more fun

[compact tartan]

that was on the table

[cyan goblet]

lmfao

[stark charm]

but no color

[compact tartan]

it's calculated really

[azure nymph]

Lol make them write a thesis for the role

[sick burrow]

no color for graduate role is good I think

also it sorta feels like there should be another role for like postdocs and profs and stuff. Because there's a world of difference between a first year grad student and someone with a PhD

but I guess that would be a very hard thing to verify without having people doxx themselves with their thesis lmao

the issue is I feel like I might technically deserve the Graduate+ role but I don't feel qualified to share it with the likes of nG or Icy or Namington

or any of the other research level people

[bright hill]

Better than to be associated with people just learning linear algebra lmfao

[azure nymph]

Wow DarQ

Smh

[bright hill]

I'm literally referring to myself

[azure nymph]

I haven't even fully learned it yet

[bright hill]

Neither did i

[azure nymph]

So much to learn so little life

[neat lintel]

how come i'm not blue yet

mniip answer me

[bright hill]

Slide type is going wild today, jeez

[sick burrow]

the mods dislike you personally

[azure nymph]

They put you on the list

[surreal sapphire]

i have to say that there is no such list

[neat lintel]

it's not a list

it's a stack

hah

[cyan goblet]

how much is mniip paying you to say this

[azure nymph]

I love MTG

[compact tartan]

no one can control the active role it's gained sentience and its doing its own thing now

[sick burrow]

me when I open DarQ in a booster

[azure nymph]

So are you giving it rights now

[sick burrow]

wait no

me when I open Llama calculus in a booster

[neat lintel]

what

[surreal sapphire]

talking about pay ...

[sick burrow]

I think we should pay mirza

[cyan goblet]

ooooh mniip holding back wages

[sick burrow]

wasn't there an actual issue with mniips finances a while ago

for keeping the minecraft server up and whatnot

because Russian

[bright hill]

I don't think the issue was financial

It's just that the service provider refused service to Russians

Economic besiegement

Is the ban on discussion surrounding the Russian-Ukrainian conflict still up?

Duck

not that far

I got distracted a while ago

I think I stopped on the section about newton's method

oh damn

that's actually pretty good

I'll probably get back to it after rudin/some artin

hmm

maybe earlier

since I really want to get into multivariate calc

ye

have you tried participating in any of the kaggle competitions?

wait, are there no active competitions?

oh

there is

the alternative would've so much been funnier

[alpine kindle]

@compact tartan what are the guidelines for application to grad+

[compact tartan]

does #info not explain enough?

[alpine kindle]

i mean

[bright hill]

hmm

cat theory is graduate stuff right?

[alpine kindle]

yeah

I'm already in mniip's walls i can tell you in dms

[bright hill]

inb4 I apply for graduate+ just to mess with mods

worth it

you know what'd be funnier?

[vast surge]

I just assumed that I was good because I've read GTMs. If you can do that, give it a go.

[bright hill]

speed running math to get the role

[vast surge]

Worst case you get banned from the server and just need to sneak in with a new account

[bright hill]

and lose the blue color?

[surreal sapphire]

go ahead

[bright hill]

I'd rather just die

[vast surge]

You can regain it quickly by spamming #discussion, #serious-discussion and #chill

[alpine kindle]

what's GTMs

[vast surge]

A line of books published by Springer.

[alpine kindle]

ohh

i know those

i have a bunch saved up

to read soon

once i get done with artin and stuff

ye

[bright hill]

done

I have now submitted my formal application for the graduate+ role

you just wait

[meager sonnet]

[bright hill]

...

this is taking longer than I expected

[bleak wigeon]

Want this emote

[alpine kindle]

[bleak wigeon]

[alpine kindle]

what are maths phds actually like

like

what do you do all day

[bronze pelican]

Lay in bed

[ancient flame]

lol

[alpine kindle]

but like

[bright hill]

that's called depression

[bronze pelican]

[fair mural]

not necessarily

[bright hill]

all day?

[alpine kindle]

what else

[bright hill]

bruv

[bronze pelican]

Mathphd things

[alpine kindle]

i am genuinely interested

i have no idea what you all do

[bright hill]

it's just being a student

• working on problems

• occasional talks

[ancient flame]

talks on the math discord > talks irl

[bronze pelican]

Have you ever worked on a research problem

[sleek wing]

no

[bright hill]

sotrue

[ancient flame]

@sleek wing HI WEW

oh

[bright hill]

is that for me?

if so, lmao

[neat lintel]

Btw are books by Shirali widely used in india?

like metric spaces

multivariable analysis

[alpine kindle]

no

I'm literally in high school

[neat lintel]

me?

dunno

[alpine kindle]

i don't know how it works

[neat lintel]

tbh I use this discord to kinda relax/ask about resources

i use different places to ask math question

[bronze pelican]

Research is pretty fun

[neat lintel]

I wish I could get to that level too

but dunno

I guess I'll have to work harder

[alpine kindle]

what do you do on one day is i guess what i mean

[bronze pelican]

What is doing math research like? Its a lot of trying different ideas, doing work to see if said ideas work, being disappointed that it doesnt work, rinse and repeat until u find an idea that works. Sometime code up some things to test conjectures, visualize ideas

[sleek wing]

yeah that's basically exactly what doing my dissertation was like

[neat lintel]

btw are professors abusive to graduate students in usa?

it was a very serious problem here

and to some extent still is

[neat frost]

Your PhD dissertation??!???!

[alpine kindle]

how much of one day is spent doing that

[bright hill]

[sleek wing]

for example, during my work on F_pC_p-modules after I had determined that all matrices in a representation could only have 1 as an eigenvalue, I shoved it all into a specific jordan block and spent ages trying to figure out how to continue.
I wrote out a matlab program that just multiplied that specific jordan block by itself a bunch of times and out comes pascals triangle

[bright hill]

max says he does 4 hours a day of math

[sleek wing]

note that it's a lot easier (imo) to spend time doing research maths rather than studying it

unless you're really really stuck

[bronze pelican]

Sometimes I get lost in the work and spend all day on it.

But rn I'm not working on any problems with that intensity

Everyone has a different research process/ style of doing research

[bright hill]

yeah, I've noticed I can maintain focus a lot longer if I'm solving something

how did you guys know you wanted to do math research?

[bronze pelican]

Whats universal is getting stuck and having to go through a lot of ideas to finally get something to work

[alpine kindle]

cool

[sleek wing]

I did some novel-ish work for my masters and it was fantastic

[alpine kindle]

i love when Pascal's triangle comes out of literally nowhere

[bronze pelican]

I did some research in highschool and liked the process

[bright hill]

bruh

doing research in HS is such a giga chad move

[alpine kindle]

wew can i see your paper

[bright hill]

ye, wew, dox yourself

it'll be funny

[alpine kindle]

oh fair

[sleek wing]

I'll have to remove the title page for reasons darQ has already mentioned

[alpine kindle]

yeah

that's fine

[bronze pelican]

Wew is wew

[alpine kindle]

you could like

[bronze pelican]

Thats a dox already

[neat lintel]

how did you even learn prerequisites

during high school

[sleek wing]

even though there is far more than enough info on this server to find out my name

[neat lintel]

like doesn't it take at least 3~4 years

unless you are a genius

[bronze pelican]

Wew is like uniquely identifiable among all humans

[bright hill]

fair enough

[bronze pelican]

idek of wew is human

[alpine kindle]

yamin what were you researching

[fervent pebble]

wew's name is jonathan

[bronze pelican]

In highschool?

[sleek wing]

tbf my willy wonka esque purple velvet suit and gold rimmed top hat give it away

[bronze pelican]

Yep

[bright hill]

ye, I kinda wanna know more about that

[alpine kindle]

yes

[bronze pelican]

Collatz

[bright hill]

LMFAOOO

[alpine kindle]

oh damn i thought it would be something vaguely cool

[fervent pebble]

kekw

[fervent pebble]

o shit u rly did that to him

[bright hill]

ally going for the head

lmaooo

[bronze pelican]

After a halfyear of working on collatz I knew this was not the move

[alpine kindle]

lmao

[sleek wing]

collatz more like collapse into a ball and cry

[alpine kindle]

i want to do some research in ug

[bronze pelican]

But still that was my first research experience

[sleek wing]

you might actually get funded if you do, ally

[alpine kindle]

oh

what

[bright hill]

I definitely want to do research in ug too

[alpine kindle]

wheel theory research getting funded?

[bright hill]

but probably not in math

[bronze pelican]

Just spinning wheels

[sleek wing]

86% of the US national budget in 2026 goes to wheel theory

[alpine kindle]

I'm joking I'm not actually going to do research into wheel theory yet

[sleek wing]

yet

[alpine kindle]

the axioms seem really annoying to work with

[sleek wing]

almost as if you're not supposed to divide by 0

[alpine kindle]

someone has to at some point

[sleek wing]

NO?

[fervent pebble]

this is literally numberism

[sleek wing]

"My research topic is how loud babies cry when I call them mean names because someone has to at some point"

[fervent pebble]

well

yeah

that's fair

do it!

[alpine kindle]

that hurts people
wheels are harmless

[sleek wing]

send me the children

[alpine kindle]

wheels are ethical

[sleek wing]

wheels hurt ME ALLY

[fervent pebble]

i would rather send you to the children

[fervent pebble]

ally said people

[alpine kindle]

i am sorry 🫂

[sleek wing]

I am being torn asunder by valley this evening

brutal

[alpine kindle]

but i must do it for the greater good
of wheelkind

[fervent pebble]

i don't like numberists

:(

[alpine kindle]

no but seriously literally how

[sleek wing]

ally otw to the Wheel ©️ Research Department ©️ ™️

[sleek wing]

I meant for further research not undergrad, sorry

[frozen merlin]

at my uni they have a bunch of undergrad summer projects on offer each year. didn't get into the project I applied for so I just emailed a professor and now I have a 6 week project w/ accom funding from my college

[sleek wing]

it was one of those things I said in my head but didn't write down

[frozen merlin]

the downside is it's in probability

but no matter

[alpine kindle]

ok i was about to say

[sleek wing]

yur..

happy tomorrow, chat

[frozen merlin]

happy today

[alpine kindle]

happy father's day

[sleek wing]

my father is currently in the south china sea

[alpine kindle]

that's unfortunate

[dense belfry]

My father is currently both within two miles of my location and dead to me

[bronze pelican]

So after doing collatz for a bit, I read a bit of this paper (below) and got in contact with the author cause he was at a nearby school and eventually made my own research project about calkin-wilf tree https://arxiv.org/abs/1401.0012

[azure nymph]

My dad is sitting next me eating chicken

[dense belfry]

Nice

Wholesome dad eating chicken

[sleek wing]

ally I just saw this in abstract alg thought you'd enjoy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_coset

[alpine kindle]

i want to do something on complex geometry maybe

[azure nymph]

Maybe not wholesome but dad eating chicken

[bronze pelican]

Conplex geometry is cool

[dense belfry]

Wholesome chicken eating dad

[sleek wing]

this notation makes me ill

[dense belfry]

I love it

[alpine kindle]

i think artin has an exercise on this lmao

[frozen merlin]

wtf

[bronze pelican]

Very common in numb theory, esp aut forms

[sleek wing]

I cannot be out done... I must add it into mine...

[sleek wing]

numb theory more like dumb theory

[frozen merlin]

that theory makes me feel numb

[sleek wing]

gtfo!!!

[bronze pelican]

Dumber theory

[dense belfry]

We tried to send my dad to prison but the police ghosted us

[bright hill]

I swear I left for 5 min

[dense belfry]

Lol

[frozen merlin]

not wholesome, undetermined chicken eating status

[sleek wing]

I'm actually crying

[dense belfry]

Why am I so unhinged

Lmao

[sleek wing]

WHAT AM I READING

[bronze pelican]

Bruh

[dense belfry]

Should I text the girls I hung out with last night?

[alpine kindle]

the reason I'm interested is because I've heard of things called analytic varieties
which seem like they may like algebraic varieties but for analytic functions
and zeroes of multivariate analytic functions look cool in desmos

[maiden bear]

yes

[sleek wing]

ok those two are kinda cool identities

[frozen merlin]

coset? more like corset because that notation is making it hard to breathe

[dense belfry]

Okay I will

[alpine kindle]

yes

[maiden bear]

you should

[sleek wing]

I'm still gonna cr- TRUE!

[dense belfry]

I got back at 10 am lol

[bronze pelican]

Nice

[sleek wing]

text me instead I'm wayyyy cooler than those guys heheheheheh

[dense belfry]

Woke up at 5:30 pm

[maiden bear]

sounds like a great night

[dense belfry]

Yeah

Lol

[sleek wing]

how do you even keep going until 10am

I'm usually barely conscious by three

[alpine kindle]

but like complex geometry has a million prereqs

[sleek wing]

don't delete "cocaine"

lmfaooo

WEED!

oooohohhhoho!!!

[dense belfry]

Alcohol

[frozen merlin]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WEED

[sleek wing]

HGAHGAHAHHAHAHAA

[dense belfry]

And some weed

[alpine kindle]

methamphetamine

[maiden bear]

not encouraging any substance abuse

[sleek wing]

oh I am encouraging it alright

[frozen merlin]

weewd

[maiden bear]

been there done that

[dense belfry]

It was interesting to be in a strangers apartment

[maiden bear]

overrated if you ask me

[dense belfry]

And just kind of walk around

[sleek wing]

weed is overrated yeah

[dense belfry]

What

[maiden bear]

weed is overrated as FUCK

[sleek wing]

^

this guy knows

[dense belfry]

What is it's rating?

[maiden bear]

it's nice when you're new to it

[sleek wing]

it's like alcohol but sideways

[maiden bear]

and a do it a few times

[sleek wing]

big whoop

[frozen merlin]

ialcohol

[dense belfry]

I feel like this is a bad take

Tbh

[sleek wing]

it's enjoyable don't get me wrong

[maiden bear]

Alcohol overrated as well

[dense belfry]

Lol

[bright hill]

wew never stayed awake for 48 hours?

[sleek wing]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[bright hill]

cringe

[sleek wing]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[sleek wing]

yeah when I was YOUNG

[maiden bear]

don't get me wrong it's nice and all

but not THAT great

as some people especially here (germany) make it out ot be

[alpine kindle]

alcohol is literally like a hard drug

[sleek wing]

the point of alcohol isn't alcohol it's British drinking culture

[bright hill]

oh, yeah

[bronze pelican]

I think learning some smooth manifolds with be helpful for learning any geometry

[dense belfry]

Anyway the two girls were actually a poly couple who were engaged

[bright hill]

I forgor 22 is ANCIENT

[sleek wing]

it's not quite like

that bad

[maiden bear]

i'm glad i quit drinking tho

[sleek wing]

definitely worse for you than like, mushrooms though

[alpine kindle]

ok but it's worse than weed

[maiden bear]

eh

[sleek wing]

yeah

[dense belfry]

Lmao

[bright hill]

I wanna try weed

[dense belfry]

I feel like you guys don't have enough information

[maiden bear]

the thing is

[dense belfry]

To make these claims

idk

[maiden bear]

trust me

i have enough information

[dense belfry]

Okay

[maiden bear]

and experience

with family, friends and myself

when it comes to drugs and alcohol

lol

[alpine kindle]

this is fair

[dense belfry]

Lol

[sleek wing]

weed doesn't give you a hang over so it's better for u

[maiden bear]

started early, recently quit

[dense belfry]

Yes

Good for you

[azure nymph]

What are we talking about

[sleek wing]

drugs

[maiden bear]

but i don't mean to shame anyone who does it i'm sorry if it came across like that

[dense belfry]

Okay so real talk I have a weird issue where I don't like the taste of people's mouths when I kiss them, how do you get past that kind of thing?

[sleek wing]

ally get me my Calpol ™️ Ages 1-3 ©️ ™️ along with my Calpol Spoon ©️ For Tiny Tots ©️

I need my fix

[maiden bear]

tell them to brush their teeth

[dense belfry]

I don't think that's it

[azure nymph]

I just try not to think about it too much lol

[dense belfry]

idk

[sleek wing]

I've never tasted anything when I've kissed someone lmfao

[dense belfry]

Oh really?

[azure nymph]

Kissing is kinda gross when you think about it really

[maiden bear]

i have never had or heard of that issue, might be more of a mental thing?

[sleek wing]

yeah that's the fun part

[dense belfry]

It's plausible, I have a lot of anxiety issues