#serious-discussion
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You can ask why this differentiates between gay couples and straight couples but not polygamy and monogamy. There's probably a case to be made that it should allow for the latter (I'm not a legal expert to say), but my first guess as to why it might not is that if someone is gay, marriage as an institution discriminates against this person relative to straight people, but being "a polyamorous person" is perhaps seen less as a sexual orientation thing and more of a moral preference thing, so it's harder to identify it as a category of person who can be discriminated against?
Again I'm just kinda reasoning about shit I have no real experience in which is massive Dunning Kruger but
I've got a very good track record about being at least somewhat accurate when I Dunning Kruger so I'm willing to gamble and say this out loud
polyamorous isnt really a "moral" preference
not allowing poly marraiges is kinda dumb
Oh I agree
no
My point is more like
allowing marrige without strong basis is dumb
People might think about polyamorous relationships in the sense of
"Are you okay with the idea of multiple partners" rather than a matter of sexual attraction
so allowing non religious marrige is mindbogglijg to me
Mahael so
i get your point about realityy
The thing is you can worry long term about whether, in 500 years, you can destroy the idea of marriage as being a legal or societal phenomenon rather than a purely religious one
The ideal I imagine you have is that members of a church/mosque/etc would marry their members according to their religious rules
well its already destroyed is my point
Wait polyamory isn't "are you ok with multiple partners"?
it isnt?
I really hope you're not that naive lol, feels like you're doubling down on a position you know is indefensible because you've been backed into a corner and haven't accepted fate rather than actually believing that
Literally married couples have tax benefits
yes
Inheritance is easier
etc
The institution of marriage is alive and well
Regardless of whether you believe it's correct or incorrect
but there is no strong basis is why in saying its destroyed
Dami savage
You need to distinguish between is vs ought
There's no strong basis so you think it ought to be destroyed
But while it's literally a thing that influences millions of lives on a daily basis
🙈
yes clearly it exists
Doesn't feel very destroyed
Like idk... let me come up with a stretched example to make this point
Best thing I can think of offhand is kinda sketch is the thing. Let's say someone believes that citizenship of a country shouldn't be a concept which exists
Marriage as an institution is objectively not "destroyed" lol
I'm not gonna get into the debate on whether that person is right or not
It has a lot of important social and legal benefits
But pretend someone doesn't believe citizenship as an idea should exist
Now imagine there's a country where the idea of citizenship is firmly entrenched
And imagine this country also denies citizenship to people of a certain type
You can be like oh the idea of citizenship in general is wrong, all those residing in a country should have similar privileges
also its just important to a lot of people and whether or not you agree doesnt change the fact that its significant culturally
And as a result, eh why bother helping people who are being denied citizenship and are being harmed every day because of this
When really we should be trashing citizenship as a notion entirely
Like okay cute ideals are cute but
Deal with destroying citizenship over the 500 years it will take to destroy that idea
And if you can provide citizenship for the people who deserve it literally tomorrow
And spare them 500 years of relative suffering
Do that rather than have your head in the clouds
i meant marrige is destroyed in the sense that for people who practice it currently it is so very divorced from its original intentions that is might as well not be considered marriage
The case that I imagine you have in the back of your mind is that doing so somehow validates the idea you're trying to destroy and maybe prevents the long term goal? But I don't think it does
I mean ok so what then lol
You can say marriage as a thing that's strictly church-centric rather than government-enforced might be destroyed
But then government-enforced marriage as a 2000s phenomenon isn't destroyed
concepts evolve over time 
Now confront this reality appropriately
Christmas might be a better example
yeah
sorta my point though
Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if like
Churches eventually come around and are like
Christmas is now no longer a valid Christian holiday
Because tbh it isn't lol
And it becomes a strictly American consumer thing lmfao
Well technically it was pagan from the start anyway
Yeah
o
Idk how crazy other countries go on Christmas lol
But yeah that's the thing like
I'm pretty sure literally every priest in this country is fucking it up
By continuing to allow Christmas
ok im trying to remember childhood memories
i was in maylasia one of my christmases
when i was v young
justifications for allowence of gay marrige and polyamorous marrige is based on addressing religious stances, but the concept is divorced from religion, so why do we still call it such and require preists to complete ceremonies
i think they celebrated christmas commercially
The case for allowing gay marriage legally wasn't a religious one actually
Marriage is a technical legal term
altho i might be remembering like, new years
And I'm pretty sure the legalization of gay marriage comes with literally zero mandates on religious institutions to back that up
what?
nM may I suggest you actually take some time to critically think over your opinions
So you can have a gay couple that is legally married and is able to file taxes jointly, have inheritance benefits, etc
like it's not even that you're coming from a bad place
But the church can be like
Nah gay marriage isn't a thing in this religion so we don't acknowledge this marriage
it just feels like you genuinely haven't though your position here through
That's just allowed
i have? point to exactly where you see this
So then all arguments ive heard that are anti gay marrige are legal based? Yet I havent heard one argument that doesn’t incorporate religious aspects
i swear im being gaslit rn
Anti yes
The point is this
Religion used to have a big role in society
So if a religion declared something to be immoral
It was made illegal, even in societies (e.g. America) which were technically secular
So now you have marriage as a thing
Which is done by churches
The fact that people who dont support gay marriage do so on religious grounds doesnt mean that the people who do support gay marriage do so on religious grounds
thats my point
moth you changed your pfp and now I'm confused
They decide to codify a notion of marriage in law which provides privileges to couples which are married in the religious sense
i never met anyone who was anti gay marrige for legal reasons
So tax benefits, inheritance stuff, child stuff, etc
im being gaslit i swear it
What are you even trying to argue then...
You're not being gaslit you're confusing the causality here
The point is that marriage was made as a legal thing to mirror the religious one. But once it is created it provides legal benefits
you're not being gaslit
yes I know this
So now people who were religious were like well our notion of marriage is man with woman
Gay people can't get married, they shouldn't even be having relationships because that's wrong
Yes…
So they have no business being given these privileges

Okay fast forward to today
yes those are the only anti gay arguments ive heard
There is a legal phenomenon of marriage which has no need for a church but which provides concrete benefits
This conversation is literally so pointless wtf are either of you trying to argue

You now go and say well... Gay people are not being allowed to marry but there's no legal basis for this fact
It's an artifact of when people designed the law to have an incorrect level of reliance on religion
most productive #serious-discussion conversation
You have two options. One option, which will not happen in your lifetime probably
Is to say let's just trash the legal idea of marriage
Married couples have no benefits, it's not an acknowledged concept in law. Churches can do whatever the fuck they want about marriages because they literally own that concept
Again this will not happen in your lifetime
The other option is you say well, right now the law discriminates against a class of people. Let's make it not do that. That can be done in the short term, and in fact has been done
You've been practically arguing that there's no need to perform the second option when we should really be doing the first option
I think on some level we sorta agree on all the main points but you're just kinda confused about how the cause and effect is working here
Like we could just take the word marriage and replace it with "civil union"
In law
And then it's a separate matter
Like alright do we think that people in some kind of union like this deserve e.g. tax benefits? Aka should this notion exist?
This is now independent of religion because we've abandoned the religiously loaded term
Second is, what should count as a valid union if we allow this to exist? So in this case yeah when we no longer make this religious there's no case against e.g. polyamory
Or we decide it shouldn't exist at all and everyone just screws whoever they want and the law simply doesn't care
i feel like my common sense isnt being respected but my only point in talking about marrige was to get to back to the point of racism being doomed and its advertisement. this entire conversation is a tangent about my confusion for why people still want marriage as a relationship goal even though the concept lost its strong basis, and the legal basis is somewhat strong imo
but not strong enough to be coherent
its not really relevant to my point I was trying to make in original conversation
But okay, let's look at how we get from society as it is today to that hypothetical society which no longer puts weight on marriage? Turns out answer is, it'll take a long time, but in the meantime not being married comes with concrete disadvantages. So you're still incentivized by legal and societal forces
Coherence of the concept doesn't really matter so much to people as benefit/harm, culturally and legally
Let's say you have some couple. They're not religious so they don't care about the OG concept
But they want to pay less in taxes
They want certain things that are just easier for married couples to be easier for them
ok
i left out something specific
im kind of talking about those who want marrige in the way that they want a house with kids and all the other aspects that are tied to the religious one, but dont have strong basis for it since they arent religious
Cultural inertia
Well house with kids is not about the legal idea of marriage so much as a life desire
yea i find it detrimental
Like yeah I'd like to live with my partner and have kids because I just enjoy that sorta thing
not really sure its worth having another conversation about though
but i believe if this is the case you need to think of marrige more critically and think of plans for it
That's a reasonable desire to have for any individual couple. Should it be considered the gold standard for relationships? Probably not. But is it? Yeah. That is life. Maybe when I finish my psets I'll change that about society
Gimme a week or two
rip i cant continue this but ill say i disagree first sentence and agree second
also brb in 20 min maybe but what psets, in thought mods are all like 3rd year grad students or post docs or something
dami is one of those unfortunate grad students who has psets
some grad schools have more coursework than others
or he's grading
A pset to do
Imagine having to do hw
get gonked
Here it's like, there are one level of classes with regular psets (sometimes exams), and one level without. I could've honestly taken 3 classes with no homework but I thought this was worth taking. First half kinda was, second less so
So is your face
what's the difference between an operator and a function
They're the same type of thing, and calling something one or the other is a matter of convention
I see
so you could say that the integral is a sort of function?
so then $\int : \mbb{R} \to \mbb{R}$ makes sense?
gmod
There's multiple things wrong with that
If it's an indefinite integral, the input is a function and the output is an affine space of functions
Icy001
the /ker(d/dx) takes care of the +C
oh ok
in complete rigor
what's the C^0
continuous functions

what exaclty does the / mean?
not jsut in this context but in general
kernel of a linear operator is the set of all vectors s.t operator(vector in set) = 0?
oh wait
That makes sense lmfao
maybe they meant \ker and were just typing out the tex?
I know I type out Tex for words sometimes 🤣
so here this is all constant functions
is that right?
/ means modulo
modulo?
wait it's not set minus?
It is
modulo a vector space?
Wait what’s the difference
Quotient of vector spaces!
nvm I see it
how exactly does that work?
then wouldn't it make sense for you to write mod instead of /
maybe explain with the boring spaces like R^2 first pls?
ew
Yeah ok so e.g. let $V=\bR^2/{(x,x):x\in\bR}$
Icy001
This says that $V$ is basically pairs of real numbers but (x,y) is declared equal to (x',y') if x'-x = y'-y
Icy001
So the dimension of this vector space is actually 1 now
yes
V set minus proper nonempty subspace isn't a vector space anymore
why x-x' = y-y'?
Ok so the proper definition for a general quotient is
$V/W$ is the set of equivalence classes of elements in $V$ where two vectors $v,v'$ are equivalent if $v-v'\in W$
Icy001
Then we put an addition and scalar multiplication on it in the only way we can, to make it a vector space
note
this is just using the notion of quotient groups
where any vector space is an additive abelian group
so all subspaces are normal subgroups (by commutativity)
so if u know quotient groups or rings/modules u get all this stuff 4 free
"Or at least, I think one of the ways alt-right groups are currently radicalizing people is by finding vulnerable white men and providing them with a semblance of a community while also telling them (insert often racist scapegoat group) are the problem" Is kinda what I meant. No need to through out claims about myself holding similar prejudices too like tf
like my communication ability isn't good
sry
lmao blocked
The questions I see in the math help channels have stepped up their level since I last checked them out
I don't see the 10th grade stuff
I saw a lot of more simple maths before but not as simple currently
i still see class 5 level stuff
I mean, it probably comes up
but right now I don't see it
before I'd always see simpler stuff as well
does anyone have resources that i can read related to application of eigen functions
i have to give presentation on application of orthogonal and orthonormal set of function . i understood the concept but cant understand how its used in real life
on wiki of orthognal functions i saw this
Maybe look at fourier analysis and how it's useful for solving PDEs.
im trying to find out how orthogonal connects to eigen vectors and then show uses of eigen vector
It's not hard to do a small thing on how eigenfunctions let you solve the heat equation using separation of variables.
The connection is that when you have a symmetric operator, its eigenvectors / eigenfunctions are orthogonal. There's a really short cute argument to show this
If the operator is not symmetric then orthogonality isnt really related to eigenfunctions
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Motivating Question 2 I want to store a sound file but I have a limited amount of
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We’ll start by discussing Motivating Question 1, and move to discussing Motivating Question 2 later.
the pdf contains these applications
Yeah those are both related to fourier analysis and the fourier eigenbasis.
I wish S&S had pictures
excuse me
I've only heard of analytic continuation (from RH stuff lulw) but never knew what it was
Is that really it and how the fuck does that work
is this true for real smooth functions?
These are about holomorphic functions so I'm assuming generally no
it can't be that easy right
it is, like the idea is that
lets say you have a holo function and you have defined it on some neighborhood
and you wanna holomorphically continue it to a bigger set
then this is unique
for the zeta function, what is done is that, ok we define it with series wheneve Re(s)>1
but then we can define it for everything else(except s=1) using the functional eqn
and gluing these together you get a holomorphic extension of the zeta defined as the series
so this is the unique way to define the zeta function from the series on C-{1}
so wait, does this imply that if you know what a holomorphic function looks like, in any region, you know what it looks like everywhere?
for entire functions i think so yeah
this isnt distinct to the complex plane btw
this is true for all complex manifolds and holomorphic maps
if they agree on any open set (no matter how small) they are the same
funny how a simple system of pde's is such a strong condition
Using the functional equation?
there's a little bit more to it than this, it becomes more complex when you consider domains that aren't simply connected
I'm assuming you have more restrictions when the domain isn't simply connected?
No, when the domain isn't simply connected you can still do an analytic continuation but you get a multi-valued function and you have to change the domain to a Riemann surface to get a single-valued function again
If you like algebraic topology, analytic continuation gives you a holomorphic map from the universal cover of your complex manifold to the codomain
Oh interesting
Don't know anything about analytic continuation but the algtop perspective is cool
hi could maybe someone help me with a math problem?
if u guys have the time would apreciate that so much
am at HELP-25

Ngl Maths is so much more enjoyable when you aren't studying for exams
i agree
Sincerely, I hate studying for exams, to the point where this is the last Mathematics module I'm going to be taking
meh
I'll learn it after I graduate

wowie
Lmao I gotta do exams to move up in my career
Actuarial science
7 exams to get first credential and another 3 for the second
ahh
Get raises after each and they pay for study time and materials
turns out to become an accredited professional you have to get accredited
tbh, I'm so glad programming jobs don't require accreditation
you can just be like here's my github ask me some questions
results will vary
Do you think that having additional accreditation helps in a programming type of career?
Anyway, is anyone interested in teaching me some calc 3
inb4 guiding me to help channels
What topic in calc 3?

well, there's something on fourier series (Q1) and then some of this stuff, appears to be Euler Lagrange equation (Q3)
inb4 I'm cheating this quiz is worth around 0.2%
this is definitely not calculus 3
Then what is it?
It's included in this module which they've changed over the years
"Mathematical Methods 3"
The thing is, it's become a little less Mathsy because half of Methods 2 was Python
So the modules at the university have kinda changed over the years
i’m doing this right now and i don’t even understand half of it
I’m glad all I needed outta calc 3 was double integrals and jacobians
wow that’s the one thing i don’t understand lol
sd7: says two things
quantum: "one thing"
i basically just skipped calculus 3 after that since i need that knowledge for line and surface integrals
ok i meant double integrals
I needed double integrals for an exam based on probability
Same with jacobians but those were simple ones
What's the probability distribution for the sum of two uniform random numbers in [0,1]? 😏
y'all are so smart idk what y'all are saying
i sure don’t feel super smart
I’m def not super smart
icy has a big brain though
Ya kinda questions like that
Wait how do you do that
something something triangle shape
Or wait is that double integration
It's convolution 🙃
fancy stuff
which for two rectangular shapes is a triangle
What is convolution
It's the question "how many ways are there for two dice to add to n" but continuously
^
There's a formula too: for $f,g$ real-valued functions with compact support, $(f*g)(x)\coloneqq\int_{-\infty}^\infty f(t)g(x-t),dt$
Icy001
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when we say sqrt(a)
are we reffering to the positive value? or both ngative and posi?
like, no signs, just √a
positive
This is my genius koji arc
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and so the arc begins
You're witnessing one of the most beautiful moments in mathcord history, rejoice, my friend

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Modmail might have the status, but we all know who holds the real power
Modmail is a chmonkey alt
Imagining chmonkey controlling me is like imagining being bitten by a small Chihuahua
I would tease him with my pinkie finger
That's how he gets you
Also how say that but which one of you is the Kanga Gang boss and which one is the drug mule
Chmonkey could bring this entire server down if he wanted and we'd all be cheering on our own demise
Have you not seen the messages in #the-ivory-tower-2?
tfw Tex breaks
sadge
is gamma the chmonkey alt account?

Why is n^0 = 1
hi, what job can i get besides insurance if i pursue a bsc in actuarial sci? i am looking for options
risk
companies analyse risk for more reasons than just insurance
you could be a financial analyst examining whether branching out a company into a new industry is useful
the final decision rests with the higher-ups, but its the analyst's job to put together a lot of statistics and try and identify risks and cost-benefits and whatnot
and present their findings + recommendations to the decision makers
its ultimately just an office job with a bunch of number crunching no matter what you do - insurance, analysis, stock trading, whatever
very similar flavour
but it is a different position
that sounds absolutely horrific
i mean, if youre considering an actuarial science degree, id assume youre cool with that
if not, uh, do another degree lmao
lmao yeah but I can't imagine someone would voluntarily want to do that
but hey
some people enjoy eating tarantulas
money
i get the appeal
finance jobs are known to pay really good
you do a monotonous but ultimately safe and simple job 8 hours a day
go home and get to enjoy a comfortable paycheque
ultimately u have quite good enough job security
its not the most exciting life, but theres a reason "may you live in interesting times" is a curse\
but i wud still assume the work they are doing is intellectually stimulating
considering ur in a math role
unlike say investment bankers
the math is still repetitive calculations and a lot of digging through financial archives
so not really
yeah you do a bit more stats than your average office job, which is interesting for like
a month
but that just becomes like any other computation soon enough
what about something like a research quant
whose job is to actively look for new models
you wont get that with an actuarial degree
those typically require a graduate degree in math/stats/cs/phys
oh ok
Suppose we add to N a new element x. Then N U {x} is still countable
I feel like this is supposed to be simple to understand but I don't really get it, why is N U {x} countable? To be countable there needs to exist a bijective map from N U {x} to N right? What element can we map x to such that a map remains bijective?
assuming countable means countably infinite here
start by bijecting N into itself
so we have a list
a_1 -> a_1
a_2 -> a_2
a_3 -> a_3
...
you get the idea
now add in x to the top and move everything down
x -> a_1
a_1 -> a_2
a_2 -> a_3
a_3 -> a_4
...
i see
so basically a bachelors in actuarial sci can lead me to analyze financial risks?
i thought that quant should be more interesting but i dont want to get a masters
i just wanna get into work after bachelors
is an actuarial sci degree without a masters sufficient for this job?
i am interested in that as well as retirement analysis stuff
but more interested in this
i am more concerned with the demand for entry level than the salary
guys does have any idea what happened to the brilliant.org calculus page of hard problems?
no i do not find it anymore
can you check once if possible?
I can't find it.
lol there exist other sources of problems
ez problems
what would you recommend for beginner in trigonometry ?
like learning resources? khan academy
ok thx
so sqrt (9) isnt equal to -3?
so sqrt (9) isnt equal to -3?
-3 is a solution to x² = 9
although someone will probably say something about different branches
there it is
so sqrt(9) = 3
so the square root and the square are not exactly exactly opposite to each other
it makes things alot easier like this tbh
shouldnt you put infinity(?
if you want to denote an ambiguous case where it could be either (or both), use the notation ±sqrt(x)
what?
precisely
are you french perchance
no but im from a country that is frenchish
but ive never seen [0, infinity(
in any case, in most of the world, [0, infinity) is used
] is closed end, ) is open end
so ) is just [?
] can be equal
[0, infinity) = {x ∈ ℝ | 0 ≤ x < infinity}
yes, ]a, b[ in the french standard corresponds to (a, b) in the anglo standard
the ISO recognizes both
im form algeria and its how we do it lol
why isnt there one single way of doing it?
smh
because of the bourbaki school
they invented a lot of notation
some of it caught on internationally, some didnt
but it was extra influential on france
the entire world used (a, b) style, but then the bourbakists started using ]a, b[ style
in my books and how teacher does it, never seen him use (
if youre submitting to a journal, it probably has a style guide
then use ]
fair nough
if i do ( ocassionally is he gonna get it? ( like he should right?)
Pfft better to bully people into using the more aesthetic notation
probably, but i'd err on the side of caution and stick to what your class uses.
ye thats about right
can anyone help me
how does one find an advisor and a topic to work on
do i just yolo email a prof and then see if i like their problem
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depends, there are a lot of ways around this and it really depends on your personality and your potential advisor's personality
but generally what people do for a bit before choosing advisors is "advisor shopping" in the sense of just like
setting up some meetings/stopping by office hours, chatting about math, see if you get along and if mathematical interactions go smoothly
Ask them what their research is about, do a reading course with them, join their seminar, talk to their students
There are a lot of ways you can get to know a professor and work with them before officially becoming their student
Pretty neat, you should join the desmos server
I thought I was dogshit at math but seeing some of the other people around me

What’s 7 X 7??
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@charred lance fuck you
since X is really + we have 7 X 7 = 7 + 7 = 0.
Thanks bro
np problem always happy to help. Note this is true for a particular field where X denotes addition.
@jovial ember 
what... what is the difference between algebraic geometry and geometric algebra
Algebraic geometry is the study of varieties (Zeros of polynomial functions in multiple variables) using modern algebraic techniques
Geometric algebra is like vectors but a bit deeper afaik @short pivot
Reading on it a bit more, it's like vectors, but adapted to capture notions of differential geometry
That's kinda cool, I wish I knew more
it had this good video circulating here
This video is an introduction to geometric algebra, a severely underrated mathematical language that can be used to describe almost all of physics. This video was made as a presentation for my lab that I work in. While I had the people there foremost in my mind when making this, I realized that this might be useful to the general public, so I ...
this one
I'm slowly becoming game theory nerd of the century
are you learning it for fun or for college?
is that an inner product?
Most people just call them angle brackets.
It's pretty common notation for inner products like ninja mentioned.
can i use texit to put eqn in a ppt
this is a common definition of an inner product on the space of continuous functions on [0,2pi]
how i can show average of cos over full cycle is 0
does this look explainable lol
Could someone help me at II pls
if you write out the integral, you'll see that you get something proportional to sin(a) - sin(0) = sin(a)
so the result is a sinusoid that is a function of a
then naturally if you change a, you see an oscillating behavior
you have, however, plotted it as a family of functions that depend on the parameter a, and each function is constant
rather than directly making a function of a
should i just call the "notation" in above screenshot inner product in my presentation
Like this?
yoo what the fuck
👓
what is $\vec u \land \vec v$

TC159
Wedge product



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hey if a vector can be written as a column matrix, then what can a bivector be written as?
aren't bivectors basically scalars
only in 2D
hm
I guess write it as a combination of the basis bivectors?
[all the GE i know is from that one video lol]
a wedge b = 1/2(ab-ba)
oh yeah it'd just be another column matrix I'm dumb
you mean GA?
ye
aren't bivectors written as matrices?
Not sure, never heard about them until like when I read that
don't think so?
I mean like, you can represent a complex number as a matrix too
this feels more of a consequence of that
innit is british slang for isn't it
__init__(x) is basically the class constructor equivalent in python afaik (i.e. not sure if there are any significant differences)
the first argument of it is the object, the rest are the attributes you want them to inherit (most of the time, you can also just do normal code inside the function (probably))
initialize the object
no they're written using basis bivectors, like if e1, e2, e3 are you basis vectors one of the basis bivector would be e2
e3
Ic
Ic?
ic = i see
So we just got assigned a project to research on how Multivariable Calculus is involved with our major, of which mine is a Computer Hardware Engineer. Any specific topics I could look to research into? I can definitely see the connections of multivar. calculus with vector calculus & Computer Aided Design, but I’m having a bit of difficulty finding any other specific relations
switch your major to physics and then simply say "i'm majoring in multivariable calculus"
I imagine optimization problems are pretty crucial in hardware engineering, and in particular control theory
and in real-life applications, you have multiple parameters, so it's all crazy vector calculus
what about optimizations?
multivar calc is used for that
like you'd have to optimize a bunch of stuff?
hey so
I wanna make a video on my youtube channel for christmas
what's a christmas type math problem that's interesting and not corny?
How many gifts did the guy in "12 days of Christmas" get?
XD.
.pin
I wonder if the Christian version of Jesus did any math.

what
Hi, sorry if the question is already answered elsewhere, but I wonder : If I want to ask a question in the help channel, how can I show my work ?
you can post a picture of your work from what ive seen
Ok thanks you
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Happy start of Christmas boys!
Happy Christmas!
too much trolling
n(n+1)/2
Well, He fed entire crowds of five thousand and four thousand miraculously from one lunch each, so He did a lot of multiplying.
town of salem
Catan is fun
Is town of salem a board game
It would be fun to do social deduction games with people on this server
Um, I really like the game Avalon
ToS is way too chaotic for me
Out of the ones listed my favorite game is chess
epic mafia used to be my jam before the site got deleted
Oof
The secret hitler website was always great
And then they changed something
And I think it sucks now
It might have been fixed
Oh!!! How could I forget
Hanabi
It's not exactly a board game but it's so fun
Hanabi
secret Hitler is good but only with friends
There is an EXCELLENT hanabi website too.
I would love it if this server did events
One of ym favorite songs
Part of the fun of it is the game to game evolution of strategy
I can almost sing it completely
(instead of going with some dumb meta)
technically what you described is a meta
it's just that the meta was solved In public lobbies very fast
Yeah but it's more fun when it comes organically out of a group
As opposed to being something someone needs to learn
Then it offers opportunities for people to change up how they play and try to throw others expectations off
bpp and/or garticphone could be fun I guess
bpp?
Garticphone is great
skribbl and codenames are great party games too.
also board game online is criminally underrated
skribbl is uwu
and under known
codename went above me
jackbox party packs were also decent but I got bored after overplaying every pack
that sounds epic
@placid quartz do you wanna play skribble with me sometime
i’m not very good at drawing but it could be fun
that’s fine
I was not expecting that
cool
that's kinda awesome
give me your computer
wow
ohhhhh that's what this one meant
I see why it's interesting now
is it possible to have something like this for very function
every differentiable function, yes. these trig functions are interesting because they’re bounded periodic functions, so you get some semblance of a pattern from them
Desmos gone mad
butterfly effect
anyone take physics 2?
and know about the term impediance?
is impedance considered resistance just that it has some time domain
hmm
but does the "resistance" overall change at a given time
in something like an RLC circuit
no
no
impedance is fucking cool
but i don't know how to explain it well
i mean it's misleading to say it has nothing to do with time lol
impedance would be totally meaningless if time were not involved

the whole point of the imaginary part is to capture the oscillating current
instead of the voltages and current being constant they vary as a function of time
sure. i read the question as impedance having time dependence
how do I go about understanding it?
we just did all the calculations with converting between phasor and whatever but i don't truly feel like I understand what it means.
i would focus on understanding it graphically. The magnitude of the impedance phasor determines |V|/|I|
and the phase of the impedance determines arg(V) - arg(I)
i am trying but I can't find any simulation
I just wanted to screw around and see the different values/ graphs or whatever.
seems perfect 🙂
Hi?
No
ttt
@clever knot https://www.circuitlab.com/ looks good
think we used that one at my university
Do courses other than your majors and minors you do in uni show up in your certificate or smth? How do you ever show that you've done courses in that subject?
they usually do, in a separate part of your transcript to show they didn't contribute to your grades/credits
I see

Who else is taking the Putnam this Saturday?

is it free
It's free for me, but I don't know if it's because it's actually free or if my school's covering the costs.
so u can't participate it 'unofficially'
well I'll just look at it when the questions get on internet xd
did u do 2020 Putnam
No, I wasn't interested in the unofficial one.
well good luck xd
The putnam problems are usually released right after the exam, everyone is allowed to take the question sheets with them
How hard are Putnam problems? I can't even do basic IMO so I wouldn't know.
you can read them
theyre all freely available
certainly not as "hard" as IMO though
more prereqs but the problems themselves are a bit easier to approach
gl hf
I was gonna like practice and shit but like decided not to
my score on this isnt important and i didnt wanna sit through like combo problems or smth lol
if ur like top top you get a few thousand dollars
but like i wasnt getting that with a few weeks of practice lol
I will still be top at ASU tho probs
bottom tier school moment

I’m taking the Putnam at asu on Saturday

Yoo same
Yoooo
Wait how are you taking it tomorrow I thought it was Saturday
It’s complicated I’m doing a semester away from my regular university, and I’m from Arizona so I just decided to take some classes here
Are there usually a lot of people signed up
Oh nice and small I like that
I haven’t taken it since 2019 too
Well I guess I’ll see you at lunch Saturday lol
Well I was a freshman in calc 2 so I got a 0 lol
But I think this year I’ll at least get a couple
i see
Didn’t prepare as much as I wanted to
maybe i should spend today and tomorrw just prepping
Finals 
I’m gonna prep for my mat 472 final in the hopes that it reminds me of enough analysis to do ok
thanks for showing me, I appreciate it!
need help
Get rekt john
"Look guys I found this equation on reddit please tell me I'm smart"
i think you overestimate the ability of your professors to care
theyll just think youre a dork

oh, they have even more cringe
tell me i’m not the only one that would get this
Physics
Don’t physics people sometimes use dot on top for derivatives?
that’s newtons notation
this shows why it’s trash
the y with a line is newtons integral
lagrange integral is pretty bad
you have to admit that leibniz partial derivatives look amazing though
Leibniz was the first derivative notation I saw when I was in high school. Looked mysterious.
It's so amusing when people who don't know calculus just try to cancel the d's
When people who do know calculus do it then it's just a really bad joke
I like Euler notation for derivatives personally.
i know this logic doesn’t work but it is kinda interesting that dx/dx actually equals 1
as if you canceled it like a fraction
although i guess they are the same differentials after all
@brave hollow https://youtu.be/IEL-XAJd5DU
for each view, I get 1 mor point.
I was hoping to find gwandma's bing chilling cookies :c
now enjoy my offbeat dancing
Video danced, directed, filmed and edited by me.
No animations used. Just VR.
Songs:
Caramel Dansen https://youtu.be/zvq9r6R6QAY
Super Idol (I can't find t...
What
I am surprised how this was never recommended to me thanks for the ping chmonkey factos 👍 👀
Hi everybody,
Im new to this server, i'm not a numberphile. Although i like numbers...
... Im looking to speak to someone who is good with and passionate about predictive mathematics, specifically, probability and is good at creating models for resolving these problems. Also highly self motivated.
Is there anyone here that this appeals to?
no
:(
Are you trying to recruit for your shitty startup on a fucking math server 
LMAO
This reads like a job posting written by someone with the most surface level understanding of the job
lmfao
Are you looking for someone to help you model the latest pisscoin nft wholesome 100 diamond hands elon musk sigma grindset to the moon trend?
I am
WAIT LMAO HE POSTED THAT 3 TIMES
yeah
As his only 3 messages
VRUH

PRUH
mommy
Hi everybody,
Im new to this server, i'm not a numberphile. Although i like numbers...
... Im looking to speak to someone who is good with and passionate about predictive mathematics, specifically, probability and is good at creating models for resolving these problems. Also highly self motivated.
Is there anyone here that this appeals to?
Hi everybody,
Im new to this server, i'm not a numberphile. Although i like numbers...
... Im looking to speak to someone who is good with and passionate about predictive mathematics, specifically, probability and is good at creating models for resolving these problems. Also highly self motivated.
Is there anyone here that this appeals to?
Hi everybody,
Im new to this server, i'm not a numberphile. Although i like numbers...
... Im looking to speak to someone who is good with and passionate about predictive mathematics, specifically, probability and is good at creating models for resolving these problems. Also highly self motivated.
Is there anyone here that this appeals to?
Before this gets deleted by reddit admins, this asshole took it completely out of context. First of all, the idiot thinks it was a marionette deck. It wasn't. That card's not even in the deck. He was running counterspell draw, this was approximately turn 25, every single creature and spell I cast was countered or removed up until that point and this dumbass who copied his deck from MTG Salvation or Goldfish used one of his last copies of negate to counter a Revel in Riches when he had 0 creatures on the field and I had 0 treasures in play, thus the "this spell does literally nothing" and he should have let it resolve. I love it when people copy a deck and have no idea how to run it or play MTG. I was just throwing it out because I had 5 mana and it was the only card left in my hand and the game was already over anyway. So on the way out I let him know what an idiot he was for countering a spell that does nothing in the current board state.
NOBODY wants to watch a recording of a game where I cast something and he counters it or removes it x30 turns. That's idiotic. I should have left the game the second I saw what he was running. This was the 5th attempt at getting a recording of something resembling watchable MTG gameplay and 5 people in a row were playing Karn draw control loop or free cast torrential graveyard resurrection control or approach control loop. So yeah, I was pissed and he was an asshole for playing this. He's one of those idiots who doesn't care about the other players one bit, it's all about winning. So running 35 control spells seems reasonable because NOTHING matters but winning. Thanks for not showing the board state with library counts or the full log, asshole. Enjoy your temporary ban from reddit.
I feel you.
LMAO, WHAT HAPPENED.
LMAO, WHAT HAPPENED.
LMAO, WHAT HAPPENED.
OAML, HATW HAPDENEP.
LMAO WHAT HAPPENED.
Hi everybody,
Im new to this server, i'm not a numberphile. Although i like numbers...
... Im looking to speak to someone who is good with and passionate about predictive mathematics, specifically, probability and is good at creating models for resolving these problems. Also highly self motivated.
Is there anyone here that this appeals to?
Bro, imagine if we are clowning a kid right now.
He just learned all the big words and we're shaming him.
its not a kid its a job offer from numberphile for their next video 🙂
bro
this power series shit for ode's is hurtiung my brain
it all makes sense up until we establish the recurrence relation
and start figuring out the pattern
yeah, thats the meme part
actually the even more meme part is finding out what the power series corresponds to at the end
can you even do this half the time XD
the exercises are made in such a way they tend to be elementary functions
but most of the times they wouldnt be
yeah I figured
actually thats the importance of it
you can write down an analytic function
that is not necessarily elementary
are all real valued functions just u(x,y) + iv(x,y) with v = 0 lmao
I mean
of course
isnt that how u is defined
is that how you'd check analyticity using CR on real functions??
no
complex analytic is not real analytic
well
they are both writing in power series






