serious-discussion

[deep mango]

[astral marsh]

no idc about chunkiness in general. i am fine with chunky pnut butter. i just hate tomatoes

[sly thistle]

tomatoes are high in msg so checks out

[astral marsh]

fuck tomatoes

[sly thistle]

peanut butter is unironically awful

[deep mango]

i bet eggs in PB is better than eggs in tomato sauce

[sly thistle]

i hope you drown

[astral marsh]

eggs in pb sounds like a good way to bulk

[inner finch]

chunky = junky

[astral marsh]

unironically

[azure kettle]

peanut butter is so nice

[astral marsh]

it is

[sly thistle]

no its not

[astral marsh]

so calorie dense

[sly thistle]

peanut butter is awful

[astral marsh]

its convenient

[deep mango]

how do you like eggs

[sly thistle]

most spreads are shit tbh

[astral marsh]

sometimes i just eat peanut butter

like

a spoonful

[azure kettle]

I wish it wasn't so sticky, I'd literally just keep a jar on my desk and constantly snack on it through the day

[astral marsh]

straight up

[sly thistle]

im australian and ill admit vegimite is garbage

[astral marsh]

lol yeah poros

[sly thistle]

its unironically awful

[deep mango]

peanut butter with chocolate chips

[astral marsh]

try pnut butter and honey

amazing combo

[sly thistle]

yall are wierd

[astral marsh]

pnut butter and honey sammiches

[sly thistle]

peanuts taste bad

[azure kettle]

nah, I hate too much sweetness

[sly thistle]

ok

anything in peanutes is bad

unironically no

pb is terrible

[azure kettle]

I've tried that, but like the part of my brain that's supposed to like sweetness is broken

[sly thistle]

i will not sully my tounge

[astral marsh]

lol

i have a major sweet tooth

i love ice cream and brownies

[azure kettle]

I have an anti-sweet tooth

[sly thistle]

i hope you walk backwards in a field of dicks or sth idk

INSULTS ARE HARD

[azure kettle]

I will literally feel bad if I have to eat something that's too sweet

I'll try pb and pickle

[astral marsh]

nah one time i like. drank some maple syrup

just straight up

[sly thistle]

how

[astral marsh]

i was gonna have it with my pancakes

[sly thistle]

the viscossity

[astral marsh]

but then i started drinking it

[sly thistle]

ive never had

maple syrup

but aint it just honey

[astral marsh]

no

its less viscous

[sly thistle]

oh

ok

u deffo couldnt drink honey

you might choke

[astral marsh]

i mean ive drunk honey too

[azure kettle]

actual maple syrup, or like the ""maple syrup"" I saw in america that was majority high fructose corn syrup

[astral marsh]

bro ur canadian like

probably not canadian^tm syrup

[azure kettle]

I remember I tried the maple syrup at a relative's place, and I was like wtf is this dog shit

almost threw up

[sly thistle]

let me guess poutine is actually an underated masterclass of culinary art

[azure kettle]

nah, it's pretty properly rated

[astral marsh]

all i care about is if it is pourable and sweet

i wish i knew when the next flights were to here

[sly thistle]

y

[astral marsh]

when did the hurricane land anyways

[sly thistle]

oh the hurricane

[sly thistle]

his flight got delayed

[astral marsh]

not mine

[sly thistle]

no the hurricane's flight

[astral marsh]

this is your brain on vegemite

[sly thistle]

i dont like vegemite

[limber perch]

how do you know the hurricane is a he

[sly thistle]

ig cause im an immigrant to australia

[astral marsh]

amazing

[sly thistle]

i was looking at the french report and they used a masculine suffix

[inner finch]

i like the uhhh

[astral marsh]

aleph whats your zodiac sign

[inner finch]

what do you call it

scrambled

[sly thistle]

u just wnana know my birthday

[inner finch]

onions, tomatos, etc

[sly thistle]

u mean omelette?

[astral marsh]

someone had a zodiac sign on their ig profile and i binged some stuff out of curiosity

if you pretend its real its kinda fun

[sly thistle]

nah the zodiac stuff is too pagan for me

i agree tbh

theyre overated

scrambled eggs are better

[inner finch]

same shit

[astral marsh]

Omurice

[limber perch]

you’re just overcooking them

[astral marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/omurice-ketchup-rice-eggs-japanesefood-gif-12388282

[inner finch]

cringe, you probably aren't making them right

[astral marsh]

OMURICE

[limber perch]

but yea scrambled eggs will always be better

[sly thistle]

i will literally stab you with a dull serrated knife

[azure kettle]

anime makes all food look very nice

[inner finch]

nice

[sly thistle]

ok that sounds ike assault i dont mean that

mirza is too nice for me to insult

[sharp mulch]

???

[inner finch]

bad cooking

[limber perch]

cool at a lower heat so you can control how runny your omelette is

[azure kettle]

just stab him with a serrated dirk instead

[sly thistle]

so true

[azure kettle]

you can do that legally

[sly thistle]

how do i find my zodiac sign

[astral marsh]

well i guess there are flights today it seems

[inner finch]

yeah this is based

[astral marsh]

idk how safe it is to fly today

[astral marsh]

look it up

[inner finch]

look under your bed

[limber perch]

I mean that’s fine I always make scrambled eggs too

[astral marsh]

overeasy sunny side up is the superior egg

that and poached eggs

[sly thistle]

aries

[astral marsh]

i sy that because eggs benedict is my fav

[sly thistle]

i think

[azure kettle]

I like eggs cumberbatch more

[limber perch]

anything with runny yolk is ew

[astral marsh]

bro i have no time for haters like you

[sly thistle]

or taurus

idk

the dates are confusing

[astral marsh]

🤚

while you're here hating i am here eating overeasy and sunny side up eggs

[sly thistle]

that a hamza?

[astral marsh]

cope

[limber perch]

i digress, my favorite breakfast is lox on a bagel

[sly thistle]

jew

(i can saythis im jewish)

[limber perch]

y’all have good food

[sly thistle]

but yes this is classic jewish dish

[astral marsh]

smoked salmon on bagel

with cream cheese

[sly thistle]

its cause

fish isnt considered meat

so

it doesnt have to be killed

[astral marsh]

is it

[sly thistle]

in the difficult manner

[astral marsh]

that was my breakfast and lunch for a year

[sly thistle]

to be kosher

[astral marsh]

in quarantine

[sly thistle]

IM SPEAKING

[limber perch]

i might go to college in ny just to have this every day

[sly thistle]

anyways

[astral marsh]

??

[sly thistle]

for land animal meat

[limber perch]

and get fat and die of diabetes

[sly thistle]

it must be killed

[astral marsh]

imagine going to college in ny

[sly thistle]

through shechita

but fish does not

also

fish can be eaten with cheese

but land meat cannot

[astral marsh]

vaped salmon

[limber perch]

i looked up how to make smoked salmon at home and it’s like a 1 week process

[sly thistle]

also bagels i think is cause in poland jews were banned from baking or something for some time

idk how true that is

so they boiled it

probably not true but thats a nice story

[astral marsh]

isomorphic

[sly thistle]

"hhehe bagel is elliptic curve"

nah it was deffo in eastern europe

it was brought to nyc by jews from eastern europe

ngl i personally think a lot of ashkenazi jewish food is pretty boring buts that probably because im an ashkenazi jew

[limber perch]

“smoking is hard” -slim

such a good role model

[sly thistle]

LMAO

[limber perch]

such a good role model

[astral marsh]

gotta get the hookah

[sly thistle]

@astral marsh uh i think im a taurus

what does this mean

[astral marsh]

idk

now go look up taurus compatibility

this is where it gets juicy

[sly thistle]

get it

cause bagels

are toruses

[astral marsh]

??

[sly thistle]

and we were talking about bagels

[astral marsh]

words of the truly demented

[sly thistle]

haha

[sly thistle]

yes

[limber perch]

why aren’t they

[sly thistle]

i am a torus tho

[limber perch]

oh

[sly thistle]

taurrus

not torus

[astral marsh]

how many breads are there up to homeomorphism

[limber perch]

alephnull eats bagels with nothing on the inside

[sly thistle]

yes.

mom i want bagels

we have bagels at home

Bagels at home:

we actually do have bagels at home

did u ever do it

[astral marsh]

@sly thistle https://www.astrology-zodiac-signs.com/compatibility/taurus-capricorn/

next time you see someone with a zodiac sign in their ig bio

pull up some quick knowledge like this

[sly thistle]

and?/

???

also i heard in some place in america

they slice their bagels vertically

[astral marsh]

Good job

[sly thistle]

and this is the closest thing which made me want to become a terrorist ever

is seeing vertically sliced bagels

[astral marsh]

Did you eat it

[sly thistle]

when i saw this

i saw the futility of american empire

[astral marsh]

good job

[sly thistle]

yeah

u fgotta get the freshly baked ones

[astral marsh]

sometimes it be like that

[sly thistle]

yeah thats cause u gotta get the freshly bakes ones

[astral marsh]

keep grinding

[sly thistle]

while theyre still warm

[astral marsh]

yeah you have to put pepperoni on it

[sly thistle]

if u eat it raw

u gotta have it hot

[astral marsh]

tomato sauce cheese and pepperoni

[limber perch]

this is warranted if you have something of substance besides cream cheese in the bagel

[astral marsh]

then bake it

[sly thistle]

noone want a cold bagel

[sly thistle]

its never warrented

ya thats dumb

[limber perch]

vertically cut lox bagels ???

[astral marsh]

your first time huh

[limber perch]

they’re still good

[sly thistle]

you gotta put it in the microwave

fuckin hell

have yall ever had toasted bagel?

[limber perch]

ryam discussing losing his bagel virginity

[sly thistle]

like

[astral marsh]

i mean you could use a bagel for that pretty easily

[sly thistle]

u cut the bagel in half

and toast it

man

[astral marsh]

to be fair

[sly thistle]

i love toasted bagel

tomatoes on a bagel?

[astral marsh]

fuck tomatoes

[sly thistle]

thats stupid

[astral marsh]

[sly thistle]

the juice of the tomato

[limber perch]

capers do not belong on lox bagels btw

[sly thistle]

will interfeer

with the

with

[limber perch]

idk what psycho came up with it

[sly thistle]

with the bagel dough

u dont wanna put tomatoes

[astral marsh]

pizza bagel

[sly thistle]

in the bagel

[astral marsh]

ftw

actually

[sly thistle]

bruh

[astral marsh]

tomato sauce + cheese on bagel

[sly thistle]

smart

[astral marsh]

and bake it

[sly thistle]

smart

[astral marsh]

pizza bagel

[limber perch]

pizza bagel

[sly thistle]

have u ever had

matza pizza

[limber perch]

reminds me of those frozen meals

[astral marsh]

nope

[sly thistle]

this is something all jews have

all jews hae

yeah

its fucking terrible

[astral marsh]

i want the honey pastry bread thing again

[sly thistle]

its literally made to make us remind us of slavery cause of how shit it is

thats literally the point lol

its supposed to remind us the bread of our affliction or whatever

and its garbage

but i like it because im biased

because matza flour based pancakes make me nostalgic

[limber perch]

disgusting

[astral marsh]

make them yourself

[sly thistle]

my mom makes them for me

it is good

[olive karma]

wtf in gods name is that

[sly thistle]

u gotta sprinkle

a little salt

on the challah

[olive karma]

looks like deep fried ballsack

[sly thistle]

thats the secret

u gotta sprinkle

[limber perch]

this is giving me ptsd from elementary school lunch

[sly thistle]

some salt on it

when it starts getting a bit old

then u use it as french toast

[astral marsh]

french toast is good

ugh

so many foods i havent eaten for like 2 years

bc of quarantine

im hungry now

and im in college now

this is the time to eat

actually there is a bbq today

woo

free food

im gonna eat a shit ton

[olive karma]

my uni just gave me a £50 drinks voucher for campus bars

[sly thistle]

nah i dont like gefilte fish that much tbh

[olive karma]

do I a) spend all £50 at once and have a good night

[sly thistle]

yeah sometimes its good but

its really just fish sausage

oh shit

[astral marsh]

fish sausage sounds dope

[sly thistle]

no i mean like it is good but nothing super great

[astral marsh]

hook me up with some fish sausage tbh

[sly thistle]

matzaball soup is the only good thing with matza tbh

but maybe im biased

[astral marsh]

i dont generally like soups

[sly thistle]

u wanna put these things in it

hold on

[astral marsh]

ramen is good though

[sly thistle]

let me show u jewish cocaine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shkedei_marak

this

[astral marsh]

kosher cocaine

[sly thistle]

its so fucking good

u put it in soup

and its so good

[astral marsh]

croutons

[sly thistle]

u put them in soup

[astral marsh]

i like croutons

[sly thistle]

yeah but theyre a bit smaller

[astral marsh]

what if they made like a bag of those

[sly thistle]

see, cocaine

[astral marsh]

but just the croutons

like doritos

[sly thistle]

they do

i remember

just getting a handful of them

and eating them

[olive karma]

dont be a pussy

[astral marsh]

bro i remember kids eating bags of cereal

like they would sell bite sized bags of cereal

[sly thistle]

bruh i remember

[astral marsh]

as in, that was the intended use

no milk

just eat

[sly thistle]

u know nutrigrain

i dont often have cereal

[astral marsh]

nope

[sly thistle]

like ever

but theres one cereal

which is really good actually

nutrigrain

[astral marsh]

in peru you dont get cups in school cafeterias too, at least not the part im from

they just give you plastic bags tied up

[sly thistle]

they market it as healthy but it aint

[astral marsh]

you have to bite off one corner

[sly thistle]

its really fuckin tasty tho

[astral marsh]

and drink from there

[sly thistle]

ik what this is i think

[astral marsh]

it isnt anything lol its literally just plastic bags

[sly thistle]

nahh

i dont reallyl ike corn flakes

theres lots of good australian foods tbh

[astral marsh]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bNqcy2w8NEo/hqdefault.jpg

sometimes with straws

but otherwise you bite off a hole in a corner

[sly thistle]

oh no idk this

[astral marsh]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/cc/39/22cc3919c552493bddfba5d8cb3cce2d.jpg

yeah

the first one is cebada

[olive karma]

the height of capitalism

[sly thistle]

theres uh

milo

u know milo?

[astral marsh]

milo yeah

is good

[sly thistle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_(drink)

[astral marsh]

i remember

[sly thistle]

fucking best thing ever

[astral marsh]

snort it

peruvian cocaine

[sly thistle]

nah i wont let you steal this

its australian

[astral marsh]

i think peruvian cocaine is just regular cocaine

[sly thistle]

milo is an australian invention archsys

[astral marsh]

you mix it as best as possible

and then you snort the top

[sly thistle]

both

[sly thistle]

yeah

[astral marsh]

keg stand it

fill a keg with milo

[sly thistle]

anyways

milo is australia's best invention

not wifi or whatever

[astral marsh]

tbh bars would be cooler if they served milo instead of lame shit like beer

it happens

[sly thistle]

yeah dont be a coward

[astral marsh]

roll with the punches

[sly thistle]

lmao

"guys im not gonna snort cocaine it hurts my nose"

[astral marsh]

yeah maybe there is

[sly thistle]

ur not gonna believe this archsys

i remember

there is a milo chocalate

[astral marsh]

hm nice ok friday we are back to under 90 F

alright whatever i wasnt able to determine specific flight info but

she'll probably be here by friday

saturday for sure

oh saturday is orientation shit

[sly thistle]

sorry ik you wanna go tto australia now but they no longer sell em

OH FUCK I REMEMBER THESE

I USED TO HAVE THOSE ALL THE TIME

[astral marsh]

lmao imagine going to aus

nah im just wondering what day you know who will be able to get a flight

like i said the hurricane meant flight cancellations

its a bit tricky because once orientation week starts there's a lot more stuff going on

availability will be harder

they were ye s

not mine

im not flying

its a domestic us flight yes

to the northeast

hence hurricane stuff

[olive karma]

who tf spells henry with an i

lol

he spelt it henry

not

henri

[sly thistle]

henri is the french spelling i think

[odd narwhal]

French people

[olive karma]

https://tenor.com/view/team-america-vomit-gif-3950128

[deep mango]

hinry.

[vagrant kestrel]

all the weathermen having to say hurricane onri 😭

[obtuse fjord]

I am in a bizarre state of starting a probability PhD and realizing I don't really like probability much 😅

[crystal stone]

Just change advisor?

[obtuse fjord]

Nah it's chill actually, my (potential but very likely) advisor is largely a geometry/signal processing guy

But I met with some other students in the department who were actually into pure probability and it made me realize I don't really like the stuff

Every part that I've liked has been related to other applications

[crystal stone]

What's wrong with that?

[obtuse fjord]

Nothing really, just leftover pure math elitism I didn't realize I had

Literally didn't take any non-math course in my undergrad that I didn't have to and I'm really regretting that now

[velvet dagger]

Imagine not doing number theory

[neat lintel]

okay now what?

Now make it a reality if it is not already

[bronze pelican]

Like seriously

Ugh

[sly thistle]

So true

[lunar panther]

What are the voice channels for?

[leaden torrent]

oftentimes people use them to screen share when providing help or what-have-you

maybe even use them as mini-talks

[lunar panther]

Cool, thank you

[leaden torrent]

sometimes people have an actual conversation in them, but thats not common

[dapper pivot]

is pseudoscience half science and half perceptive judgement?

[neat lintel]

I think so

[dapper pivot]

wait does that make psychology pseudoscience

[neat lintel]

Yeah

Sometimes psychology is even called philosophy

[leaden torrent]

uhh

first off, that isnt what pseudoscience is

second off, psychology is not a pseudoscience

some aspects of it are of questionable reproducibility or academic rigour

but its still a legitimate science

[neat lintel]

,w pseudoscience

[leaden torrent]

sigh.

[neat lintel]

,w is psychology a pseudoscience

[leaden torrent]

i figured that my "sigh" would make it clear that this is spammy

but i guess not

[dapper pivot]

i agree that psychology is a pseudoscience the more I read into it

[neat lintel]

For the record, the definition was something like: "pseudoscience: an activity that resembles science but relies on fallacious assumptions"

[leaden torrent]

psychology uses the scientific method.

it's more of a science than math is, at the very least.

[dapper pivot]

wait but don’t you have to make judgements in psychology

[leaden torrent]

sure, you have to make judgments in any science

[neat lintel]

This is a weird comparison

[leaden torrent]

the judgments in psychology are admittedly less quantifiable than in other sciences

part of the reason for that is that humans are, well, really fucking complex

and we dont have a good model for them yet

the other part is that other fields have literal centuries spent figuring out how to measure things in them

the concept of "acceleration" has not been around as long as the concept of "mechanics" has been, for example

[neat lintel]

I think this is a good thing. It will be creepy when a government knows exactly how you behave

[latent forge]

ofc the math person would say that heh

[leaden torrent]

until this concept was developed (and formulae and tools devised to measure it), physicists had to talk about what they perceived as "changes in speed" without having any ability to quantify it

which naturally led to it being vulnerable to perception

[latent forge]

joke about stereotyped social awkwardness

[leaden torrent]

now, psychology DOES have a legitimate reproducibility crisis

it's sometimes overblown in media, but it exists

the state of academia being flawed doesnt mean the field itself is a pseudoscience, though

it just means that reward structures in academia are fucked

[dapper pivot]

academia?

[leaden torrent]

rewarding publishing new results and data fudging over testing and reproducing results

and disincentivizing publishing the null hypothesis/inconclusive results

[neat lintel]

I kind of think psychology should own it's position as a sort-of-pseudoscience (I didn't call it a pseudoscience, so no need to argue), and just become more of a field of philosophy

[leaden torrent]

are you really trying to make judgments on the quality of scientific fields without knowing what "academia" means

my apologies, but you are not at all qualified to have an opinion here

[latent forge]

no conflict there

[neat lintel]

I like academia nuts

[dapper pivot]

ugh my bad

[latent forge]

I think the reason he calls it pseudoscience is because he believes as a model psychology isnt very predictive which is a normal stance people take

[leaden torrent]

psychology is not predictive and it doesnt advertise itself as such

[latent forge]

too young to be a science some say 🚬

[leaden torrent]

a lot of physics isnt predictive either

[dapper pivot]

but isn’t bio more facts

[leaden torrent]

stay woke

[latent forge]

something something philosophy of science. one guy defines science by 4 properties, constiency and predicativness being one of those traits

[dapper pivot]

than psychology

[latent forge]

its on a spectrum sorta

[leaden torrent]

the moment string theory is predictive is the moment it is falsifiable

[latent forge]

not every fact in the model needs to be predictive but needs to have internal consistency along with a couple other things

[leaden torrent]

i long for the day.

actually maybe not, itll make my first published paper irrelevant

[latent forge]

also for the sake of argument biology is very predictive

certain facts atleast

germ theory being a big predictive model

bio is more predictive than psychology in my opinion

that isnt what eliminates psychology though

its internal consistency

😓

[neat lintel]

Yeah, in psychology, one memer says one thing, another memer says the opposite

Just like philosophy

[latent forge]

i dont think anyone is trashing on psychology because its new

people see neruoscience as legitimate

[dapper pivot]

but in psychology isn’t it more of like educated guesses than in biology? cause biology’s more facts and evidence?

[latent forge]

false assumption

psychology uses “facts” and evidence

[neat lintel]

I think neuroscience is more like biology than psychology though

Oh, nvm

[latent forge]

yes but my point was that its new and legitmate

not very predictive though

internal consistency checks off

[latent forge]

also you are probably thinking of psychoanalysis

which is a pseudoscience

imo

[dapper pivot]

psychoanalysis?

[latent forge]

ya

[fast ivy]

I think what we are observing here is more of a social phenomena. Social sciences and psychology are usually seen as ''soft sciences'' by people, and for some reason that disregards their results.

[latent forge]

think sigmund freud

yes its silly mr system

psychology definitely science but people mistake it for sociology and other things often

infact when you say social science or soft science most people only think of sociology or psychology

[leaden torrent]

what do those people think economics is

or linguistics

[latent forge]

lots of people dont consider it science

[leaden torrent]

yes but what do they classify it as

an art?

[latent forge]

something similar. tbh most people that make the distinction do it as a way of discrediting a field

not because they have deep reasons

[fast ivy]

Exactly

Also

It seems that fields related to studying human behaviour and their environment usually receive some more criticism

[latent forge]

human behavior and biology has controversial history

[neat lintel]

I think linguistics can be a lot of things, depending on what you mean by it

[latent forge]

same with econ and poly sci

[fast ivy]

Some part due to how some results in these fields may conflict with some of our ideas of the behaviour of society and people.

Which all of us naturally have

[latent forge]

the conflict says nothing about viability of the field though

a big one is securities analysis and supply and demand in econ

[neat lintel]

who in the name of high Heaven just said biology was predictable

[latent forge]

😎

[neat lintel]

that's just wrong, mate

[latent forge]

yea ur right

artyhmias dont indicate anything

and infact if you feel heartburn you should ignore it

and cut urself and put dirt in your wounds to soothe the pain

and let your blood from your third toe

thats how you live for 20 more years

[neat lintel]

really? that's the argument you're using?
that's almost insulting dude. just because the body breaks down in certain ways doesn't mean it's easy to predict how a biological system is going to go

[latent forge]

no one said its easy lol

[neat lintel]

you know, whatever, i'm not emotionally invested in this

ciao

[latent forge]

im not saying every study is highly predictive

if i knew psychology better i wouldn’t have burned this bridge 😓

[mortal oasis]

what do you mean by this

[latent forge]

no one is calling neuroscience pseudoscience or doubting its legitimacy as they do in sociology

[mortal oasis]

neuroscience is much closer to biology but honestly it takes heavily from cs and math atm cause most of the process/measurements needed require that

[mortal oasis]

its a bit of a harder science

[latent forge]

by its nature sure, but its also new thats why i gave it as an example

[mortal oasis]

I mean not really though

like

what do you define as "new"

[latent forge]

lol developed in the last century

[mortal oasis]

ah so cs is new?

[latent forge]

no

its been developed before this century

[mortal oasis]

I mean kinda

[latent forge]

you mean definitely?

[mortal oasis]

no I mean kind of

[latent forge]

i mean ig neuroscience isnt new either

[inner finch]

sociology isnt pseudoscience

[latent forge]

by that standard

holy fuck

i swear

[mortal oasis]

and depending on how you define neuroscience

[latent forge]

you cant debate an opinion around here

[mortal oasis]

the first time recording of an action potential was the 1850s

[latent forge]

i never said its a pseduoscience @inner finch its the same reason that the user @neat lintel got mad...

[mortal oasis]

hang on why do you say CS isnt new but neuroscience is

ignore mizra she is sussy

[inner finch]

Shutup

[neat lintel]

No need to backpedal, sociology is indeed a pseudoscience

[cold needle]

Shutup

[inner finch]

im not arguing anything

[latent forge]

neuroscience is old too

[neat lintel]

I’m not mad
I just didn’t want to waste my time arguing over the Internet

[latent forge]

in ways i guess

you were mad

[neat lintel]

Next thing I know, you’ll be saying classical physics is predictable

[inner finch]

Is this not saying it is pseudoscience

[neat lintel]

Ah yes, because you know my emotional states better than me

[mortal oasis]

holy fuck

[inner finch]

mmm

[latent forge]

@mortal oasis saming...

[mortal oasis]

why is neuroscience new

but cs isnt

[latent forge]

scroll up ffs

[inner finch]

because i said so

[latent forge]

im arguing a point a user earlier made

[inner finch]

no time

[latent forge]

i never called it myself, im giving reasons why people might call it such

[cold needle]

what is even happening

[latent forge]

and im not going to continue with tesseract because they are trying to argue in bad faith

i never said entirely predictive

[cold needle]

i would just knock it off

its not going anywhere

[neat lintel]

I Killed the Most says that biology is predictable
I thought that was a silly thing to say, said so, and disengaged

[mortal oasis]

ok ignore them

[neat lintel]

Now I’ve been pulled back into the inanity

[mortal oasis]

I want to talk about why neuroscience is new

[latent forge]

i want to.

[mortal oasis]

then do it

[latent forge]

neuroscience isnt new i guess either

[mortal oasis]

why is neuroscience new but cs isnt

[neat lintel]

Anyways, uh
How about dem Rudin

[latent forge]

because people have done experiments for just as long

but i guess its the idea of recent developments

because you could argue that neuroscience has been developing quicker over this last century

quicker than computer science

[mortal oasis]

well that is absolutely true

atleast the first part

[latent forge]

argueable points though

[neat lintel]

But CS isn't even a science

People have been doing electrical experiments on the brain since at least 1800

CS can't be a pseudoscience when it doesn't even want to be a science

[neat lintel]

No, silly, it’s in the name, of course it’s a science

[mortal oasis]

the first time action potential recorded I believe was like 186something

[latent forge]

experimentation on brain isnt new

but developments have been quicker in last century

[mortal oasis]

I would agree neuroscience recently has really taken off

[latent forge]

so thats all thats really relevant

[mortal oasis]

but thats more cause of the ability to actually do the experiements

[neat lintel]

Oh, I misread my source, sorry ‘bout that

[latent forge]

not much else to talk about because thats the perception people base it off

on the other hand

it can be argued that psychology is old

[mortal oasis]

psychology is old

its just hard to apply rigor too

is all

[latent forge]

yes

im only arguing this old/new problem because some DOOOD decided to bring it up for no good reason.

saying that biology is older and thus has more predictive claims

[mortal oasis]

I dont think anyone legitmently thinks pyschology is a psuedoscience

[neat lintel]

@mortal oasis would you agree that psychology is sort of like a field of philosophy?

[latent forge]

i dont think so either, i just think people have misunderstandings of what psychology is

[neat lintel]

?

[mortal oasis]

what do you mean by that

[neat lintel]

You can philosophize about how the brain works

[mortal oasis]

well you can run expirements to test those theories

compared to philosphy which you can

cant

[neat lintel]

You can philosophize about anything

[leaden skiff]

that's not what the field of philosophy is lmao

[neat lintel]

Just ask Aristotle; he said that heavy objects should fall faster than lighter objects

That doesn’t make natural philosophy == physics

[leaden skiff]

that is technically true. with air resistance

[neat lintel]

With air resistance, you have to take into account a whole host of factors

[latent forge]

pretty much people just see some soft sciences as legitmate and others less so, but depending on their relationships to human behavior since opinions on politics are controversial

[neat lintel]

However, Aristotle was not thinking of air resistance when he said that

Soft sciences are definitely science

[latent forge]

instigating is sinful btw

[neat lintel]

You just degraded the term "science"

[neat lintel]

? How do you mean

Trolling is bad

[latent forge]

Is tesseract a known troll?

have i been getting baited this whole time

[neat lintel]

I mean, social science != natural science

I’m certainly not claiming that

[latent forge]

are you reading what anyone has typed?

[leaden skiff]

wdym. by natural science?

[neat lintel]

,w natural science

[latent forge]

no one claimed that

no one is arguing against your points or claiming you said certain things

[neat lintel]

You said

pretty much people just see some soft sciences as legitmate and others less so, but depending on their relationships to human behavior since opinions on politics are controversial
I chimed in tangentially to note that soft sciences were legitimate

[latent forge]

👍

[latent forge]

science is what dexter does in his laboratory

nothing else in my opinion

[neat lintel]

Dude, idk if we got off on the wrong foot, but I don’t have malicious intent here

[mortal oasis]

Yes

[neat lintel]

Sorry if I came off that way

[latent forge]

if someone claims its an activity outside of his laboratory then its pseuodoscience

[leaden skiff]

how do I get the discipline to actually properly study math and not just watch random pop math videos on YouTube as a HS student

[neat lintel]

The same way you would treat any serious hobby I guess

Find a book or a course you want to follow and consistently make progress on it

[surreal sapphire]

get an actual book and study in a place that has no tech

[neat lintel]

Or spend time on it at least

[pure sun]

i dont think there's anything wrong with just like, watching random pop math videos and having math as a casual interest

as long as you understand that like

you aren't getting the whole picture and it's not going to make you an expert

i like watching chess videos for fun and i like playing chess very casually and like, playing weird chess variants

i'm just saying this cuz like, i think this server can sometimes give off really intense vibes

like "if youre not spending your whole day learning math you're wasting your time"

but i think that's harmful

[surreal sapphire]

kind of ironic on a discord server lmao

[devout folio]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-happy-dance-lord-of-the-rings-lotr-gif-3551563

[neat lintel]

#chill

[vast surge]

I guess I know my new username

[cold needle]

yesterday i went to campus for no reason cus i didnt have classes and then i met new people it was so nice

i bumped into this grad student and she showed me where all the offices were

very happy

[terse flax]

sounds like the beginning of a new love story

[azure kettle]

cringe and stemlord-pilled take

[analog salmon]

professor approximated n! with n^n

gag

[bronze pelican]

FIRST COURSE OF MY GRADUATE CAREER STARTS IN 3 MINS

[thorn brook]

yooo good luck!

[fringe needle]

wooo epic have fun

[bold ferry]

Graduate sounds so cool

[latent forge]

howd it go

[bronze pelican]

still in it

[fringe needle]

then get off discord you hooligan

[toxic schooner]

ne'erdowell? whats this lol

[fringe needle]

never do well

[toxic schooner]

[bronze pelican]

No you holligan

[fringe needle]

What was the class on

[bronze pelican]

Complex analysis

[fringe needle]

What does one do in graduate complex analysis

[odd narwhal]

hol up you start school in august??

[neat lintel]

its february in australia idiot

[odd narwhal]

kek

[deep mango]

Hoolig on deez nuts.

It really wasnt

The more words you have to add beyond deez nuts

The less artful

About as much of a sentence as "Who lickin on deez nuts"

Who licks on deez nuts?

You can't win. At worst mine is equal.

[bronze pelican]

this is the more accurate sentance

[deep mango]

At best it's far improved.

[bronze pelican]

who liggon deez nuts

[deep mango]

Ok

I have decided that I'm wrong

I'll take my dignity back now please

Now that I am RYC in NYC there are so many lunch specials to try

Right now I'm having basil chicken from a thai place

It's very spicy

Stark reminder of my whiteboydom

[terse flax]

A Sexy Boi That’s must be white

[vagrant kestrel]

interesting thai discussion

[deep mango]

[latent forge]

I request that user novastrike in chill grt honorable because of this post #chill message

[deep mango]

Gave me motion sickness

[latent forge]

sorry about that its meant for osu gamers

[sick burrow]

when will this channel finally get a pinned message

that isn't removed by the mods

[deep mango]

.pin

[deep mango]

watch it get removed

[quasi jetty]

✅

[sick burrow]

this is a violation of my 3rd amendment rights

[terse flax]

good

[neat lintel]

,w 3rd amendment to the US constitution

[fathom swallow]

Wolfram Alpha doesn't understand your query!
Perhaps try rephrasing your question?
Click here to refine your query online

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[neat lintel]

,w 3rd amendment

[fathom swallow]

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[jovial ember]

Seconded

[bronze pelican]

its not original

[latent forge]

who is OP in this server

[limber perch]

i came across this cool video and i wanted to show yall https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/342850939306246145/880166738971492382/Congruent_Angles_Anime_OP_-_A_Cruel_Angles_Thesis360p1.mp4

[deep mango]

wow!

have you seen veritasiums collatz video btw? it's so sick!

[nimble shuttle]

I haven't, RYC. Please explain it to me in detail.

[deep mango]

Deez tail.

[limber perch]

can you download a compressed version of the video and send it here

[pure raptor]

I find it interesting how this fractal has a mini burning ship on it

Close up

The real deal for reference

[terse flax]

the fuck is that

what's the equation

[pure raptor]

I will have to dig around for it, I forgot

[terse flax]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Ship_fractal

[pure raptor]

Found it

zr = zr + cr;
zi = zi + ci;
zrc = zr * zr - Math.abs(zi) * -1 * zi;
zic = Math.abs(zi * zr) * -2;
zr = zrc;
zi = zic;```

Normal Burning Ship

zr = zr + cr;
zi = zi + ci;
zrc = zr * zr - zi * zi;
zic = Math.abs(zi * zr) * -2;
zr = zrc;
zi = zic;```

[terse flax]

absolute value nice

[limber perch]

cursed mandelbrot set

[analog salmon]

bruh I googled "ams" and the first result was american meterologist society

mathematicians are slacking

[neat lintel]

Time to sue google

[analog salmon]

btw anyone know promo codes or coupons to join ams 👀

[dark wing]

does anyone know what this might be ?

[whole copper]

-1

[dark wing]

wdym by that

[vagrant kestrel]

you need to give context lol

[neat lintel]

what kind of math problem is that?

[leaden torrent]

man

i should throw random numbers on paper with a "solve me" and see who wastes their time trying to make sense of it

[icy forge]

Are you on a search for Good Will Hunting

[astral marsh]

bad will hunting

[reef carbon]

would you like some dice to help with that

[stone valve]

an infinite set of dice

[broken scaffold]

am infinite set of dice

[tiny ridge]

Any recommendations for what latex editor to use?

[wispy dune]

Overleaf works fine for my somewhat lightweight use

[azure kettle]

vscode with latex extensions is the goat editor

for latex

overleaf is a good editor if you're new to latex

[tiny ridge]

Not too new but starting uni and would like something perhaps a bit faster than overleaf and can run offline

Ill have a look at vscode

[latent forge]

latexmk

pdftex

or if you mean live latex previewers tex live

[tiny ridge]

Thanks!

[pale orchid]

miktex and texmaker have been kind to me

[deep mango]

I use texmaker and it's fine but slow

I want to switch to vscode at some point

[azure kettle]

by some point you mean right now

[deep mango]

I mean

[reef carbon]

texmaker has done an ok job for me so far

[odd narwhal]

Never had a problem of speed with overleaf tbh

Even with hugh docs

[wispy dune]

i have a doc thats about 100 pages long and it compiles pretty fast still

it doesnt have any diagrams so thats probably a big part

[azure kettle]

texmaker is just visually really disgusting

[cold needle]

lol

[pale orchid]

to be fair, i usually write the stuff in sublime and then compile it in texmaker

[latent forge]

sublime is cucked vim supreme

[pale orchid]

vim's aight but it's kinda complicated to quickly navigate large projects

already did that once for my undergrad

[latent forge]

you dont have powerline?

[pale orchid]

wuzzat

[latent forge]

its a plugin that gives status bar things and very convenient info ides have

also nicely customizable

and i agree tabbing sucks in vim

but there is an extension for tree tabbing

[delicate steeple]

you should use latextools!

it's my preferred way of writing latex

comes with a lot of nice shortcuts right out of the box (though if youre using sublime already you probably have your own setup)

[latent forge]

lol

sublime bloated

[delicate steeple]

if your computer legitimately struggles to run sublime then literally what is wrong with you lmfao

i had to use atom for one of my classes and that was awful

[latent forge]

cope

nano and vim goated

atom is trash

sublime and vscode bloat

emacs and other ides are mini operating systems

come with virus protection type shit

[neat lintel]

did u forget about pycharm

and ij

[neat lintel]

me who had to use techsmart

[whole copper]

Notepad

[robust musk]

pen and paper

[fervent flame]

do any of u weebs know how to remove this

[rancid meadow]

fix the signature

[fervent flame]

big if true

[limber perch]

it said at least one

so my advise would be to

fix the signatures

[whole copper]

+--- - > - +++ all fixed

[velvet dagger]

Didn't I tell you guys the other day?

The signature is ++-+

[pure raptor]

i found that grade 10 math does not need more than a scientific calculator with a table function

[bronze pelican]

The signature is a integral quadratic form

Signature of a 4 manifold

[narrow rock]

The Hirzebruch signature theorem is pretty cool

[bronze pelican]

Wait, is the signature different than the intersection form

[narrow rock]

no

signature of a manifold is the signature of the intersection form

[bronze pelican]

Ok

[narrow rock]

not any manifold tho

you need dim = 4n

[bronze pelican]

Yeah because spacetime is 4 dimensional

[narrow rock]

ye but there are a lot of cool results you can get from it

exotic 7 spheres for example

[bronze pelican]

Wow math is so beautiful and interconnected

[narrow rock]

oh and werent you reading "On the groups J(X)" a while back

[bronze pelican]

Yeah

[narrow rock]

there's another result called Rokhlin's theorem

which can be deduced from some of the theorems in J(X) IV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokhlin's_theorem

[bronze pelican]

Thats fkin insane

[narrow rock]

[sly thistle]

Yeah I don’t really understand but that looks insane

[delicate steeple]

ive been meaning to look through scorpan

4-manifolds are way more interesting than they should be

[latent forge]

😓

what the hell

[cold needle]

[rose dock]

Algebraists: Algebra is much nicer than analysis
Also algebraists: there are 49487367289 groups of order 2^10

[cold needle]

computational group theory or sth

mokaS

[neat lintel]

click on the icon

[fervent flame]

yea, and when i try to verify it myself, nothing happens

[neat lintel]

Woah, npnell and sideurk pfp look like they are secretly the same character

[fervent flame]

dont associate me w that weeb stuff

[vagrant kestrel]

[latent forge]

[astral marsh]

@deep mango very urgent

fashion knowledge needed

@jovial ember

[neat lintel]

Bro ryc is already asleep

[blazing pawn]

How does sideurks avi look anything like lain

wtf

[neat lintel]

how can i become a helper

[pale orchid]

you can contact a moderator. try dming the modmail bot and it will forward your message to (all of) them

[neat lintel]

ok thanks

[pale orchid]

seems it worked out 😛

[neat lintel]

woo hoo!

thanks so much

[astral marsh]

This ping is to help prepare you

There's no actual reason for this ping besides that

That's why it helps preparing for the helper experience

[leaden skiff]

this is also to help prepare you

[neat lintel]

thanks

[robust musk]

this will also prepare you even more

[neat lintel]

thanks

[reef carbon]

adding on to the preparation

sometimes you'll get pinged for no reason several hours after having seemingly finished helping someone

[leaden skiff]

@neat lintel can you help me with something?

nvm

[toxic schooner]

this also happens a lot

unironically

[sick burrow]

My masterpiece is complete

[leaden torrent]

that handwriting looks like something they'd put on the walls of someone's house in a horror movie to indicate their descent into insanity

[sick burrow]

Thanks Namington

I'd say that was intentional but my handwriting is just always that bad

[odd narwhal]

looks like my analysis prof's handwriting

(derogatory)

[limber perch]

you could’ve just said “the proof is too long to fit the margin” and everyone would’ve been happy

[latent forge]

ur funny af

[odd narwhal]

and the text matches

[sick burrow]

I cannot tell whether you are being sarcastic or not and I find this very amusing

[vivid halo]

[latent forge]

no not sarcastic you deserve honorable

or trusted

[deep mango]

[leaden torrent]

important poll

make your pick

[latent forge]

😠

[bronze pelican]

ayou literally cant tell the difference

[narrow rock]

[leaden torrent]

wrong

[narrow rock]

we should keep both

[cold needle]

[narrow rock]

I voted for one to balance it out

we need more urs

[untold sapphire]

category theorists are such weirdos. what is with the lazer eyes emily riehl

and john baez

like

[narrow rock]

can we get lazer eyes witten

[untold sapphire]

this is why nobody takes us seriously

i disconnected from all the math facebook meme pages so i wouldn't have to see bad category theory memes

i have basically structured my life around not having to ever see Keith Elliott Peterson ever again

[narrow rock]

#discussion message

there's a pretty good facebook math meme page

[untold sapphire]

jesus christ

[narrow rock]

Pseudoholomorphic memes for quasi-isometric teens