#serious-discussion | Mathematics | Page 442

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:22 AM

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someone encode all the iso thms

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in like one diagram

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catThink

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:22 AM

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the best one is the second one

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it's a diamond

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🙂

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:22 AM

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I remember when the iso thms were like

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holy grail type shit for me sotrue

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:23 AM

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they're still holy grail type shit for me

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:23 AM

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shutup nerd

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:23 AM

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sad

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:23 AM

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oof

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:23 AM

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🙂

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:23 AM

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inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:24 AM

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tterru moment

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:24 AM

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torterra

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:24 AM

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light needle someone encode all the iso thms

Wdym all iso theorems

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i only remember first

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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all of them in one gigantic diagram

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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They're all first iso thm in disguise

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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for the memes

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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◉ω◉

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tteru

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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also 3rd iso best iso fite me

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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deep mango ◉ω◉

:yamin: moment

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Wait how many for rings and groups?

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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light needle also 3rd iso best iso fite me

i don't even remember them all sotrue

leaden torrent Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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$\begin{tikzcd}
G & H \
{G/\mathrm{ker}(\varphi)}
\arrow["\pi"', from=1-1, to=2-1]
\arrow["\varphi", from=1-1, to=1-2]
\arrow["{\tilde{\varphi}}"', dashed, from=2-1, to=1-2]
\end{tikzcd}$

fathom swallowBOT Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Namington

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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shutup

leaden torrent Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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bleh too long to make a good sticker

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how do i make it less long

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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third is G/H / H/K = G/K

leaden torrent Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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without redoing all the arrows

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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quotient of quotient and corrospondence of ideals

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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oh yeah that one was kinda nifty

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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deep mango third is G/H / H/K = G/K

isnt that just lagrange theorem?

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no that has to do with order

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rip

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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hmmCat

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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second is G/H = K/(H intersect K)

leaden torrent Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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huh

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maybe i make a triangle

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one sec

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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its some composite homo meme

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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It is sometimes better to be in a group of less talented/experienced people

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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deep mango second is G/H = K/(H intersect K)

r u sure about that one lol

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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idk

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no

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not at all

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but it's a diamond like that

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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wait wot

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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it's true if H + K = G

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i think

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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Isn't it about doing the KH/H thing

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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oh yeah

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you're right

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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K is just some random set?

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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yes sotrue

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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well yes

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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wtf

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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it's when HK = G

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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subgroup smh

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im hungry as shit

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pensivebread

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:27 AM

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everything closed or smth

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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calm vortex It is sometimes better to be in a group of less talented/experienced people

I mean top 1% of some community colleges publish more results than top 75% of some Ivy league colleges

leaden torrent Jul 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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\begin{tikzcd}
G && H \
& {G/\mathrm{ker}(\varphi)}
\arrow["\varphi", from=1-1, to=1-3]
\arrow["\pi"', from=1-1, to=2-2]
\arrow["{\tilde{\varphi}}"', dashed, from=2-2, to=1-3]
\end{tikzcd}

fathom swallowBOT Jul 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Namington

leaden torrent Jul 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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no thats worse

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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lmao

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bruh

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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i forgot what notation HK is is it HK={h.k in HK| h in H and K in K} for H,K subgroups of G?

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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yeah

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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universal property of quotients catThink

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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for sets in general

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subsets of a group

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or monoid

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more generally

leaden torrent Jul 30, 2021, 1:29 AM

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inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:29 AM

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latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:29 AM

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So if two sets added equal the big group then the quotient of their sum over one of them equals something?

leaden torrent Jul 30, 2021, 1:29 AM

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im deleting this sticker in like an hour btw

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even my shitposts have standards

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inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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latent forge So if two sets added equal the big group then the quotient of their sum over one...

Why r u talking like euclid sotrue

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Its natural speech

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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no sotrue

hybrid zephyr Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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astral marsh Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Its stream of consciousness typing

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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hello woog

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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lol mizzy there was euclids axioms in the logic book

astral marsh Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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astral marsh

actually obnoxious

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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the language is so meme

hybrid zephyr Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Hello

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stare

astral marsh Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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latent forge actually obnoxious

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:30 AM

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light needle the language is so meme

ikr i think i know what u r talking about

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i didnt even read that part

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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like in the peano axioms thing

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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my eyes glazed over

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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shonkie

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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also btw peano axioms trigger me

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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mizzie

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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hmmCat

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what is it with peano axioms

astral marsh Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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it feels like

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idk kind of circular

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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peano axioms fucked so hard with my head

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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makes me feel v uncomfy

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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when i was new

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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inner finch peano axioms fucked so hard with my head

give some examples

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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But why?

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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im new

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Search mirzathecutiepie in the analysis channel

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sift through the 3 accounts and mayble you'll find the thread sotrue

blazing pawn Jul 30, 2021, 1:32 AM

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the best stickers are

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latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:32 AM

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inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:32 AM

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light needle makes me feel v uncomfy

The peano axioms themselves aren't too bad, the uh specific way it was done in the book was kinda dumb tho

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:32 AM

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mirza did you get confused by +

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omg times so confusing

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:32 AM

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+(a,b)

blazing pawn Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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latent forge

The other few accs sotrue

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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wtf is minus???? omg

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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shutup ryc lmfao

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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how 2 understand piano axioms

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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-(+(a,b),b)=a

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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wait this isn't google

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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what so bad about piano azioms

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peano axioms

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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It was bcs i had trouble like seperating convention and understanding that u could axiomatize them

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:33 AM

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it makes me uncomfy cause like, i feel like we are defining N in a way that already requires you to know N

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idk

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:34 AM

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Well yea we need intuition for the things we make rigorous hmmCat

untold sapphire Jul 30, 2021, 1:34 AM

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they're inconsistent. you can't say on one hand that a fifth is a frequency ratio of 3/2 and at the same time is a ratio of 2^{7/12}

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:34 AM

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light needle it makes me uncomfy cause like, i feel like we are defining N in a way that alre...

you need an IQ of atleast 80 to learn peano axioms

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:34 AM

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broke

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anyways i lost my shit that if u wanted u could have

wild lantern Jul 30, 2021, 1:34 AM

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You need an IQ of at least 80 to learn to play cool piano songs.

untold sapphire Jul 30, 2021, 1:34 AM

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what about the peano axioms requires you to already "have N"

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:34 AM

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inner finch anyways i lost my shit that if u wanted u could have

langugelet

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:34 AM

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1,3,2,... as a model of the peano axioms where 3 is what we usually use for 2 and vice versa

untold sapphire Jul 30, 2021, 1:35 AM

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or "know N"

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:35 AM

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Yeah everyone knows me sotrue

untold sapphire Jul 30, 2021, 1:35 AM

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🙄

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:35 AM

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i dont know first thing about peano axioms

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is it a lot

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:35 AM

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no just like 6

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:35 AM

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or is it boring logic poo

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:35 AM

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just making the natural numbers rigorous

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:35 AM

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lay it on me mirzaalqt314

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:35 AM

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like we are defining it by doing s a bunch of time, but like, isnt us saying that a certain string of succ is different from the other needing us to count the numbers of succs

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isnt that like

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N

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:36 AM

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So we have like basically axioms that axiomatize addition stop u from wrapping around n stuff like that

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:37 AM

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light needle like we are defining it by doing s a bunch of time, but like, isnt us saying tha...

How can two strings of succesions be different?

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:37 AM

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Since there is no inherent meaning to the symbols "1,2,3,...", we only care about how they interact with each other

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:37 AM

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Only if they arent the same number right?

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:38 AM

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ok but how do you know that they are different. you have to count the succs

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:38 AM

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one sec i need some water im tired and dehydrated

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sotrue

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:38 AM

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light needle ok but how do you know that they are different. you have to count the succs

or you can cancel the succesions out?

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:38 AM

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and I am saying that I am not convinced the concept of counting exists before defining N

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:38 AM

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matching them

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you dont need to count to match and remove

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remove a succession from each until no more on one

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and boom

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one bigger than other

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:39 AM

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0={}, 1={{}},2={0,1},...

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:39 AM

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hmm i do like the cancelling a bit better

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but again concept of order

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:39 AM

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well you just formulated order from canceling

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:40 AM

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If there is one-one correspondence between S and n then S is of cardinality n?

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:40 AM

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i feel like i need N to even say that one thing is bigger than the other

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:40 AM

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light needle i feel like i need N to even say that one thing is bigger than the other

no u dont for naturals

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just cancel succesions

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:40 AM

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sure

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:40 AM

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one string runs out first then its less than other string

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:40 AM

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I see

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:40 AM

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idk for rationals though

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:41 AM

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and you just say empty string != anything else

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and we dont need any more than that hmm

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:41 AM

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i hev so mani pillows

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:41 AM

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ye

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:41 AM

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ok i think thats better actualyl

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that helps

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like i guess im so uncomfy bc like

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its like you have a building

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but then you are removing the ground floor

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and trying to remake the ground floor

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:42 AM

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hmmCat

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:42 AM

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thats all of logix though?

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literally not real

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:42 AM

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like, if the ground floor doesnt exist then what does you know what i mean

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:42 AM

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or maybe im naive

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:42 AM

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logickk

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:42 AM

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light needle like, if the ground floor doesnt exist then what does you know what i mean

I get what you are saying

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:42 AM

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so i feel very iffy cause i feel like, i cannot use anything

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:42 AM

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ah yeah

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:42 AM

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I can can assure you that N isnt naturally concieved of in humans

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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u mean u feel uneasy bcs what if this doesnt make sense to u and it cascades over

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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humans arent born to xount

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counting is learned

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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kinda ig

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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There is evidence that humans counted 50,000 years ago

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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many anthropologists have shown that counting isnt natural

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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i like it, its v challenging for me to think of these stuff in this framework

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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if wildberger can do math then so can you john sotrue

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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calm vortex There is evidence that humans counted 50,000 years ago

Yes it was invented

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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cause im not used to this at all

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opencry

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wildburger

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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children were born counting bro

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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And humans as we know it didnt exist for that long

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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I was counting in the womb

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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I was born counting

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same

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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or wait

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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I was counting as a sperm

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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am i missing 0s

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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how do u think i won the egg fertilization

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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mon i feel sick

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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superior math ofc

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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homo homo sapiens were around 30k ya or 300k ya?

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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what is the point of this hmmCat

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:45 AM

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inner finch what is the point of this <:hmmCat:831508801646755850>

counting isnt natural for humans

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:45 AM

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inner finch mon i feel sick

why pensivepan

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:45 AM

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The point is counting is somewhat natural

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:45 AM

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if they aren't natural then why are they called natural numbers

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:45 AM

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Its intuitive but not natural

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 1:45 AM

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hmmCat

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:45 AM

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light needle why <:pensivepan:757319354650984669>

idk i just woke up like this

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😔

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sik time

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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i think

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its the logic

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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are we allowed to say brainlet?

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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its messing with ur chemical balance in ur brain

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Though I don't like Kronecker, I kinda like this quote "God created natural numbers, everything else is work of man"

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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sully

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Though the quote is not true

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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light needle its messing with ur chemical balance in ur brain

🧠

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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yes because god isnt real

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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I remember i did analysis for a month

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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tbh man isnt real

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Yes that's one reason

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:46 AM

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was depressed and sick everyday

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:47 AM

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calm vortex Yes that's one reason

hea natural

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:47 AM

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And another is numbers are also an invention

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:47 AM

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john is literally me

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:47 AM

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we have already established this.

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:47 AM

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real numbers are far from intuitive

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too complicated

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makes me hed hurt

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:48 AM

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I kinda like that quote because, it atleast reminds us about starting point

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If I assume 50,000 years ago to be a starting point

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:48 AM

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I dont associate with humans that old

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ultra boomers

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they probably thought they were the shit for counting maize or whatever

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:49 AM

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It's okay but still they were our ancestors

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:50 AM

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not mine

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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All human beings are related

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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so true...

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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By a classification

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Infact all living beings are related

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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what is the relation...

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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I dont associate with ….

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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so true

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Oh that reminds me

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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All share a common ancestor

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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very true nine9s

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:52 AM

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Everyone on this planet is related to each other

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That's the reason for the name Earthling

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:52 AM

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everyone participates in incest.

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:53 AM

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this is the upshot.

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thank you MathForEarthlings#0360

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:53 AM

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calm vortex Everyone on this planet is related to each other

I disagree

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:53 AM

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Distance between people matters

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:53 AM

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False

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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sotrue

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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you cannot produce fertile offspring

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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I am talking about incest

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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entomology

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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so mules and horses can breed

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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look up arachnids

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Mules and horses can breed

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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it happens often

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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i was going to make a bad joke i held off

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😌

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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but their offspring cannot reproduce

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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speciation is classified by ability to produce offspring, not fertile or not

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and something else

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i forgot the something else

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Anyway this is bio

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:55 AM

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hmm pretty sure mules and horses are classified as different species?

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:55 AM

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light needle hmm pretty sure mules and horses are classified as different species?

yes they are

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:55 AM

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its been a hot minute since i studied this meme kek

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like i remember some speciation stuff and i guess they did stop offspring

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:56 AM

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mules are infertile

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:56 AM

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but wouldnt something that made u have infertile offspring like

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be a speciation event

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:56 AM

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it makes hybrids

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hybrids are different species from parents

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different species can have sex and concieve but its an unknown problem if chromosome pairing happens

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and when it happens

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:58 AM

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you're such a baka 😊

calm vortex Jul 30, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Lets leave non-human animals, but I want to understand why people are hesitant in accepting that every human is atleast distantly related to every other human being

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:58 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_wild_ass?wprov=sfti1

African wild ass

The African wild ass or African wild donkey (Equus africanus) is a wild member of the horse family, Equidae. This species is believed to be the ancestor of the domestic donkey, which is usually placed within the same species. They live in the deserts and other arid areas of the Horn of Africa, in Eritrea, Ethiopia and Somalia. It formerly had a ...

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:58 AM

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mmmm

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wild ass sotrue

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 1:58 AM

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hmm i mean, probably some discomfort bc of socail expection of being related

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Im chalking it up to concergent evolution and some interbreeding

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But we are all homonids imo

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:59 AM

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but yeah we are all related its not too tuff of a thing to think about thonk

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Yea we family

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 1:59 AM

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🤗

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cursed emote

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 1:59 AM

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until you steal from me or block me on twitter

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:00 AM

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latent forge I dont associate with ….

i’ve seen this vine

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:00 AM

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sotrue

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oh wait

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oh

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:00 AM

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hello cousins.

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:00 AM

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bruh

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:00 AM

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limber perch i’ve seen this vine

one of my friends made a math meme from it

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:00 AM

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i did not know you meant that

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sully sully sully

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:00 AM

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with the deeznuts guy and 21 kid

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but its too deep in my camera roll

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:01 AM

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sounds pretty 2016 to me

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:01 AM

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2014

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:01 AM

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I have rescinded the this

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sully

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:01 AM

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lmao

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mirza supported saying the n word guys!

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:01 AM

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i thought nine9s was making some surrealist joke about my use of ....

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:01 AM

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I was

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:01 AM

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indeed...

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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doubly paralleled entantre

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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so this is what it looks like trying to decipher what i mean sotrue

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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my humor is imacculate

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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except one is not a joke and the other is

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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mirza is actually saying the n word in her name, mods just cut her off

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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sully sully sully

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:02 AM

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this

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thonkzoom *

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sorry meant to thonkzoom

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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what is going on

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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ping miza and type the letter right adjacent to u on a qwerty keyboard then press the enter key.

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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nizra

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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bruh

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sully

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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bruh mirza this is not okay

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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its ok

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:03 AM

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sully

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:04 AM

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thonk

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boring name

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:04 AM

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blacke mail

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:04 AM

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My name is going back to mirza

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:04 AM

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lol

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:04 AM

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good

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:04 AM

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what are you going to blackmail me with sully sully

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:04 AM

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math help?

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you clearly have knowledge i dont

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:04 AM

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inb4 getting blackmailed with math help sotrue

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:04 AM

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u r reading logic

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:05 AM

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inner finch what are you going to blackmail me with <:sully:651816820122189834> <:sully:6518...

image of me pinging myself with letter i sotrue

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Mirza's career is over pray for her 🙏

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:05 AM

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its fine i wont unleash the beast

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i might show mods if im having a very bad day with analysis though

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then they are gonna give me math help too

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:06 AM

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yea can’t have this get out

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math server would be banned from existence

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 2:07 AM

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its not populr anyways

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maybe math will be popular in next couple of decades

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veratasoyum is doing a good job

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 2:17 AM

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"when will they make the ultimate undergraduate category theorist in danganronpa 4"

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"that's mirza already"

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smugsmug

inner finch Jul 30, 2021, 2:18 AM

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sotrue

untold sapphire Jul 30, 2021, 2:43 AM

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veritasoyum lmfao

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THERE IS A FATAL FLAW AT THE BOTTOM OF MATHEMATICS

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sotrue

cold needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:43 AM

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LMAO

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 2:43 AM

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lol.

cold needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:43 AM

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veritasoyum 😭

crystal dagger Jul 30, 2021, 2:44 AM

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is pmath worth learning for fun

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:46 AM

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untold sapphire THERE IS A FATAL FLAW AT THE BOTTOM OF MATHEMATICS

i have yet to watch this video

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very excited

cold needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:46 AM

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you can safely skip it

sick burrow Jul 30, 2021, 2:47 AM

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untold sapphire THERE IS A FATAL FLAW AT THE BOTTOM OF MATHEMATICS

it's called set theory

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:47 AM

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but the thumbnail

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i'm a simp for clickbait

cold needle Jul 30, 2021, 2:47 AM

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i like the history though

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i should probably read more about it

sick burrow Jul 30, 2021, 2:47 AM

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lmaoo that thumbnail is great

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wait was that the video where he said incompleteness led to the smartphone

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 AM

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sick burrow wait was that the video where he said incompleteness led to the smartphone

what kekw

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 AM

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yea lol

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awful video

sick burrow Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 AM

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was it really that bad?

bronze pelican Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 AM

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its a good video : kot

sick burrow Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 AM

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I haven't watched it so I don't know but from what I've heard it was one of the better popmath videos on incompleteness

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I'm not sure if it passes the test though

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 2:48 AM

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there are no good pop math videos on incompleteness, sadly

sick burrow Jul 30, 2021, 2:49 AM

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that I have for whether an explanation of incompleteness is good or not

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 2:49 AM

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you could say youtube is incomplete in regards to that topic

sick burrow Jul 30, 2021, 2:49 AM

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if it includes the phrase "there will always be true things we can't prove" or any variation of it then it's probably bad

sick burrow Jul 30, 2021, 2:50 AM

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vivid halo there are no good pop math videos on incompleteness, sadly

yeah 3blue1brown hasn't tackled the topic yet

forest jackal Jul 30, 2021, 2:55 AM

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4, tao's is 2, I have a mutual collaborator with tao.

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 3:15 AM

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That's what I suspected, most ppl in our generation will be 3 or 4

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well

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Those in the correct fields

sick burrow Jul 30, 2021, 4:06 AM

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narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:07 AM

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crystal stone Those in the correct fields

sully

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:08 AM

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Wait ryc do you have an erdos number

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:09 AM

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Ryc said it's soon to be 4

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:09 AM

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How do you fet research as undergraduate though?

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:09 AM

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Oh ok

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If we get this paper published

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Mine will be 5

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:09 AM

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Just spray and pray?

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:10 AM

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I don't think I have much hope of it being lower

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Mine will be 69

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:10 AM

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I'm counting the paper that we just submitted

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Given my fields of interest

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:10 AM

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It hasn't been published yet

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But it should be god dammit

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Numerical methods, fluid dynamics, earth sciences, bioengineering

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:11 AM

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First journal takes 6 months to reject

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Second journal takes 6 months to reject

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 4:11 AM

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wait

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ange

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isn't holtz's 3

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Holtz isn't going to be on the paper is she

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I would believe that Holtz's is low

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:12 AM

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crystal stone >First journal takes 6 months to reject

Do you submit independently or with prof?

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:12 AM

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But that also doesn't matter

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:12 AM

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latent forge Do you submit independently or with prof?

With prof

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He just decided to gun for top journals during covid

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Cuz the paper is actually good

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:12 AM

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What topic?

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 4:12 AM

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sharp mulch Holtz isn't going to be on the paper is she

we're putting holtz on the paper, i want a 3 or 4

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i forget

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:12 AM

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Lolllllll

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 4:12 AM

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she might be 2

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Really

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Analysis/PDEs/Harmonic/Discrete/Probability/Convexity

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Ok

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We can bring it up tomo

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Totaro has 3 lol

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:13 AM

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If we add Holtz we should also add Demmel

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:13 AM

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narrow rock Totaro has 3 lol

yA gettin' a paper out with papa burt

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:13 AM

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crystal stone Analysis/PDEs/Harmonic/Discrete/Probability/Convexity

Oh thats a lot, how long it take to make and were revisions a long time?

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:13 AM

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well, it took us about 5 months working on the project together

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To get the first draft of the paper going

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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💀

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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We submitted that twice, got rejected twice

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Then we put in some newer results we obtained, added like 8 pages

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So we're hoping that having a longer paper will help

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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how the fuck do you write a paper more than 6 pages

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Do you get a reason for rejection?

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Balmer has 3

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interesting

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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For ryc and I, have lots of graphs

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Or is it like dating

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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We have more than 12 pages of graphs

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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i also have a lot of simulations for my thing

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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latent forge Do you get a reason for rejection?

Yeah we did

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:14 AM

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In a 41 page paper

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:15 AM

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but none of them are directly relevant

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:15 AM

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It was basically like

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Maybe 15 pages?

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:15 AM

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"What the fuck is this technique"

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:15 AM

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they're like "oh this looks cool oooh"

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but they provide no help to understanding the proofs

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:15 AM

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It's a crazy paper

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:15 AM

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crystal stone "What the fuck is this technique"

Why would it be a problem if you cite them?

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Because it's just out of nowhere and it nukes away some interesting problems

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But it's hard to see what the deeper meaning of the technique is

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Or even what types of functions we have

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:16 AM

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So so do you have to write motivation for the technique?

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Well, we have some motivation for it

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And we were able to solve the motivating problems in some sense

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But there are things we don't know, e.g. explicitly constructing a family of functions that satisfies our inequality

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which relates to a PDE

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Via some Brownian motion shit

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IDK it's crazy

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:17 AM

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I wish

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:17 AM

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I only understand the parts I worked on

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The broad overview of it is very hard to parse

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:17 AM

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any applications your thinking?

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:18 AM

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We had a few applications

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We were able to get some sharper bounds on stuff

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Sorry I don't wanna get too specific cuz dox

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Oh ok well I pray for you

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:18 AM

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yUh

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||I mainly just want to get into a fucking PhD program||

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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harvard needs the GRE

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cringe

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:19 AM

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why go to harvard

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when you can go to MIT

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and take classes at Harvard

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:20 AM

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hmmCat

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:20 AM

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am I the only one who initially thought quals where used in the grad school admission process

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:20 AM

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limber perch am I the only one who initially thought quals where used in the grad school admi...

Well...

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I've had some people tell me I can show up & take quals as I'm applying

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The University of Arizona department said I could do that

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:21 AM

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yea but they won't help your application?

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:21 AM

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Uhh

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They definitely would

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:21 AM

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it's just like, if you get in things will be easier for you

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oh

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but still that's nonstandard

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:21 AM

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You can ask

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Some will be cool w/ it

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Some won't

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:21 AM

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brb asking harvard if I can do their quals instead of the GRE

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:21 AM

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🤷‍♂️

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I'm sure if I asked Irvine they'd let me in

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To take their quals

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:22 AM

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Harvard's quals are monkagiga

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:22 AM

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narrow rock Harvard's quals are <:monkagiga:651816911964995584>

Ridonkulous

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You know what MITs are?

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you take 8 classes

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You pick like 2 or 3

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and you have an oral qual on those 2 or 3 topics

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:22 AM

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that sounds alright

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:22 AM

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pov: you're taking harvard's qual exam

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:22 AM

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MIT just seems to be the superior school for PhD program

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:23 AM

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limber perch pov: you're taking harvard's qual exam

this is like an AIME question

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:23 AM

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Harvard might be better for undergrad

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I only know one person that attended harvard for undergrad math

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:23 AM

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as long as Peter Sarnak is not the one asking the questions kekw

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:23 AM

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So my CC teaches up until Calculus on Manifolds brofib

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There was this kid that completed that honors math sequence while in HS

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:24 AM

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have you seen the meme princeton qual transcript moonbears

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:24 AM

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back in the 90s, he got into harvard

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:24 AM

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I know a lot of people who went to Harvard for ugrad math

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There was a math 55 group chat

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And one year, there were like 20 people who took it

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:24 AM

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narrow rock have you seen the meme princeton qual transcript moonbears

I wasted so much time

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Reading those

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I feel bad for Terry

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 4:24 AM

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And by graduation, 19 out of 20 had gone into quant

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:24 AM

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im talking about a specific one

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I forgot his name

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fuck

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:25 AM

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Was it the guy that said

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"Of course I did well on elliptic curves, I went to harvard after all"

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:25 AM

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do you enjoy my commentary?

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or something like that

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:25 AM

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crystal stone ||I mainly just want to get into a fucking PhD program||

I thought you were a candidate

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:25 AM

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nUh

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MoonBears life fucked up

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MoonBears academic track fucked up

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I like working on math and pretend I'm sometimes productive

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:26 AM

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Ryan Alweiss

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:26 AM

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But I got straight rejections this past cycle

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:26 AM

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read his qual transcript

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moonbears

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:26 AM

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Ppl told me that this cycle was just stupid

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:26 AM

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frigten

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:26 AM

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but it's pretty soul crushing and humiliating

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:27 AM

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I would have killed myself on the spot if I was in that qual

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:27 AM

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To see all my friends that will be starting their second, third, or fourth year of PhD

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When I started at around the same age and time as them

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:28 AM

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https://web.math.princeton.edu/generals/alweiss_ryan

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sadcat

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:28 AM

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I'm reading along

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Fuck

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Wrote the laplacian wrong

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:29 AM

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have you guys heard of david stoner

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she goes by cynthia now

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:29 AM

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R: Uhh well you can first assume there is a harmonic conjugate using Cauchy-Riemann
S: No don't use that.
R: Uhh idk. I know that it's some details.
S: NO!!! You should know how to do this, it's a problem for undergrads. OK fine use harmonic conjugates. How do you prove that it exists?
R: Well you can use Jensen's formula! OK that's obviously not allowed. Stutters and then talks about how you can do the simplest thing you can do to solve any differential equation, integrate along a rectangle once you know the derivatives.
S: ANY differential equation?
R: Well I meant that it is the simplest among all techniques that are used to solve differential equations, not that it is applicable to all differential equations. The word "any" is ambiguous like that.
S: You make so much commentary! Anyway, how do you prove the mean value theorem if you can assume a harmonic conjugate?

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Fuck that

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LOL

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:30 AM

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So demeaning

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:30 AM

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"You make so much commentary!"

somber kite Jul 30, 2021, 4:30 AM

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limber perch pov: you're taking harvard's qual exam

I believe it's less than 100 and the last digit is 7, but idk where to go from there

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:30 AM

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I dont want a meanie advisor when i grow up

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:31 AM

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R: This is bad notation
S: No it's fine
R: But g is a letter of the alphabet so it's inside that product
S: Whatever
R: OK, then you can write this is as (gaba^{-1}b^{-1}g^{-1})*... so it suffices to show it for gaba^{-1}b^{-1}g^{-1}. Now uhh... ok this can't be that hard, like there are only O(1) things to try.
S: O(1) things! I like the way this guy thinks! Also I like your commentary.
R: Do you actually like my commentary?
S: No not really, it's kind of annoying. It's better to just think and answer.
R: Oops. I think commentary makes me less stressed.

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:31 AM

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Holt shit

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:31 AM

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:kms:

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Was this done in comedy?

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:32 AM

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A: What can you say about solvable groups?
R: Proceeds to describe was solvable groups are.
A: What can you say about the commutator subgroup?
R: Uhh wait what's that? OK so commutators are aba^{-1}b^{-1}
S: Is that a subgroup?
R: Uhh no.
S: But they generate a subgroup. What can you say about it?
A: Is it normal?
R: OH YEAH

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Wow you're citing specific chapter numbers now!

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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somber kite I believe it's less than 100 and the last digit is 7, but idk where to go from t...

uhh, last digit isn't 7

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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narrow rock R: This is bad notation S: No it's fine R: But g is a letter of the alphabet so ...

Do people really talk loke this?

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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no, it's just a transcription

somber kite Jul 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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limber perch uhh, last digit isn't 7

dang nvm then

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Wow you're citing specific chapter numbers now!

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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x^13 \equiv x (mod 2) and (mod 5)

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you can determine from there

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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I mean with the connotation

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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the units digit at least

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:33 AM

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R: You know I never liked integration by parts, I always preferred to guess the answer.
S doesn't like that I express my dislike of "integration by parts" even though what I mean by this is that whenever I am asked to integrate something by parts I just guess the answer instead.
S: Actually you know what? I want to make sure that you know what you are talking about, write some things down on the board.

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:34 AM

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lmao

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:34 AM

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HAAHAHA

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:34 AM

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sadcat

somber kite Jul 30, 2021, 4:35 AM

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limber perch you can determine from there

oh I'm dumb I see what I did. So last digit is 3

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:35 AM

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A: What do you know about the permanent?
me: The permanent is at most 1 and at least n!/n^n.
A: Who proved that?
me: Two Russian mathematicians whose names I forgot proved that in the 70s.
A: Egorychev and Falikman, in the 80s. But good enough. A: State Szemeredi regularity.
R: states it
S: Use this to prove something.
A: Yeah prove Roth with it.
R: This will never get as good bounds for Roth as the Fourier, but anyway you can prove triangle removal lemma with regularity, so then you have to just prove the Roth from the triangle regularity. So given a subset you split it into three parts and you make a graph out of the set in this way. I'm definitely going to mess up the coefficients. Wait YES I think I have the right coefficients!
S is amused by the commentary again

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Is he these master students or phd students

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:35 AM

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phd

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:36 AM

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somber kite oh I'm dumb I see what I did. So last digit is 3

now it's around 8.8*10^24 = 10^26 * 0.088 and to guess the 13 root of 0.088 you can do some (1 - x)^n \approx (1 - nx) shenanigans

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:36 AM

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When you know what you're doing

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:36 AM

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you can determine the ans from there

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:36 AM

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but you have 0 social skills

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That seems to be the gist of this transcript

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:36 AM

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can confirm, I know who this person is and that is an accurate description

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:37 AM

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i feel like ryan alweiss' generals were brought up in this server before

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:37 AM

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They are both meanies though, or are oral quals supposed to be very serious atmosphere with little time wasted?

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I only took one oral test

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:37 AM

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ehh they are more forgiving than you might expect

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:37 AM

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S gives some life advice to not be so colloquial. At one point during the complex analysis section instead of saying Cauchy integral was true if the region was simply connected I said it was true if there was no crap in the region! S said not to use the word crap in an oral exam given by 3 professors! S also said not to say that proving the harmonic mean value theorem was "just details" or to make other belittling comments. I agreed that this was good advice. D and I leave A's office, and A and S talk a bit more. Later I come back to A's office and A says that the generals went well (and S later also tells me I did well), but that I should be clearer when explaining things and also be less colloquial.

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:38 AM

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lol

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:38 AM

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S said not to use the word crap in an oral exam given by 3 professors!

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sully

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:38 AM

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That's socal vibes

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:39 AM

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What else does crap mean though

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Meaning was clear to me

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:39 AM

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R: OK so say you have g(aba^{-1}b^{-1}...yzy^{-1}z^{-1})g^{-1}.
R: This is bad notation
No it's fine
R: But g is a letter of the alphabet so it's inside that product
S: Whatever
R: OK, then

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:39 AM

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lmao

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:40 AM

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he isnt wrong

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just use different alphabets and gg

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:40 AM

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telling a prof

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who is hinting that you should change the name of your variable or whatever

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During your qual

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"Whatever"

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Isn't a grand idea

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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the professor said whatever

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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yea

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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Oh

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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prof said whatever

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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Rip

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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lol

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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ryan was being pedantic

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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I read it as R

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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Ryan was being hilariously pedantic as he usually is

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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he is pedantic

modest rune Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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to be fair

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that is

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terrible notation

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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kek yea

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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but proceeds to say crap

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:41 AM

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whatever

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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S also said not to say that proving the harmonic mean value theorem was "just details" or to make other belittling comments.

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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It seems the princeton quals don't go that badly

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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yeah its annoying to speak like that

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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yea they're generally fine

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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I had an oral final from Garnett

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He asked me to do something using riemann integration

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instead of lebesgue

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And I was like

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Uh no thanks

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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lmfao

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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He forced me to do it

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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lol

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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I hadn't thought about Riemann integrals in so long

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and then got mad at me when I couldn't do it on the fly

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I passed, but I was like fuck

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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Wait

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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Should've prepared more

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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calculation is that different?

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:43 AM

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No, it was a theorem

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Fun fact, that same question he grilled me on for riemann integration

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ended up on my applied functional final that fall

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:44 AM

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hype

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:44 AM

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And I was like "Oh I know how to this guy now"

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Math is a weird subject

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Do some gradschools actually require you know some popular european language besides spanish and english?

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because princeton transcript website has german word list

limber perch Jul 30, 2021, 4:47 AM

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"require" ?

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I would hope not

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:48 AM

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did some searching and apparently back in the days it was required to know some

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:48 AM

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some programs have basic language requirements

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but they aren't hard to pass

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:48 AM

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and princeton has a requirement

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i only know some spanish and arabic

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:48 AM

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french is a common one to learn

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:49 AM

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ok im locked in then

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french isnt too bad from what ive seen

vivid halo Jul 30, 2021, 4:49 AM

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yea it's really easy

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again you just need to know it well enough to like, translate a few pages of mathematical text fairly well

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not hard

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:49 AM

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yeah ive done it before

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spanish is particularly easy

crystal stone Jul 30, 2021, 4:50 AM

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I don't even think Irvine has a language exam

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I did years of college french for nothing

astral marsh Jul 30, 2021, 5:21 AM

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vivid halo again you just need to know it well enough to like, translate a few pages of mat...

it would probably be pretty easy for me considering im a native spanish speaker

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i mean i've been able to effectively interpret enough of french math text to understand it in the past whenever it's come up

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you just need to do educated guessing

neat lintel Jul 30, 2021, 5:35 AM

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I should learn french by reading french math

mortal oasis Jul 30, 2021, 5:41 AM

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le 1 + le 2 = le 3

maiden chasm Jul 30, 2021, 5:45 AM

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Is studying math required in order to get good?

viscid pecan Jul 30, 2021, 5:49 AM

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Yea definitely

scenic narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 7:32 AM

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get good at what

cold needle Jul 30, 2021, 7:34 AM

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at math presumably but

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uh for other things not necessarily

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h m m

timid spindle Jul 30, 2021, 11:53 AM

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lol TA shared his fitbit data instead of storm data in assignment

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lmao LMAO

pale orchid Jul 30, 2021, 12:05 PM

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anything works

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extra credit if you figure out how he runs 10km at 3 am

modest rune Jul 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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vivid halo again you just need to know it well enough to like, translate a few pages of mat...

Un ring commutatif

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 2:37 PM

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anyone else have the frustrating experience of doing hard classes and getting not great grades, but upon finishing those classes you've improved enough that you actually could do well in classes of similar difficulty, but you choose to take even harder classes, rinse and repeat etc etc

i mean i learn a lot in the process but im pretty sure it's not the best strategy for getting into grad school. i fucked up my gpa refusing to take easy classes because im an arrogant little shit and i am having regrets pls yell at me and tell me im a dumbass

velvet dagger Jul 30, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Sometimes doing a masters is an option. But yeah calibrate your grad standards accordingly

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 4:10 PM

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i've taken like 14 grad courses as an undergrad and gotten mostly B's. Last year i made the mistake of taking 3 grad courses at a time and got my ass kicked. i feel like i've put much more work into my degree than most math majors and genuinely learned a lot but dont have the stats to show for it :(. As a community college transfer I only had 2 years (well, I'm taking an third year to compensate) to learn the ropes and I feel like I've just now managed to hit my stride with courseload management etc, but now I have to start applying.

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I've taken like 5 undergrad classes

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well the core quals classes don't have that kind of grade inflation

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but you are right, i did manage an A in an alg geo class despite not understanding half of it

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also i'm on the quarter system so it's not like 14 semester-length classes

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:17 PM

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@neat lintel Harvard needs the GRE

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sadcat

odd narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 4:18 PM

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same here so far

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i've been told the more advanced the class the more lax the grading

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also since it's mostly grad students taking them, so you don't wanna put too much pressure on them while they're busy with TA duties and research

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also a lot of them have like, take home tests

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:20 PM

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all tests are take-home

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covid

odd narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 4:20 PM

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here all my tests were frontal this exam season

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same

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all exams were over zoom last fall

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:22 PM

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I had one timed math exam

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but everything else was take-home

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those classes kinda suck

odd narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 4:23 PM

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same

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and no midterm on one

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but that's cuz of no budget for the maths department

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ok then I had 1

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easily the one I was most worried about grades in

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but I ended up doing really well on the final exam

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 4:24 PM

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that's a graded assignment

odd narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 4:24 PM

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oh

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you meant including final exam?

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I thought you meant JUST a final exam

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oh damn

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so just based on attendance?

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that sounds kind of awesome tbh

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just not having to worry about grades

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it's like auditing a class except you get 100 at the end

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 4:32 PM

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basically here's my timeline of courses since transferring:
In my first year, I took the quals algebra sequence and the honors/intro grad analysis sequence concurrently. Both had timed in-class exams. Got an A in the first part of the analysis sequence and a B in algebra, then basically straight B's for the rest of the year. I had no time management skills basically. Literally came straight from community college calculus (and one course in abstract algebra i took at a nearby university) and self-study.

Then in year two, I assessed myself to have better time-management skills and mathematical maturity than the previous year so that I would've definitely been able to get all A's on a schedule similar to the previous year's. So I decided to take 3 grad courses the first quarter. Quals analysis, diff geo, and alg geo. Oopsie doopsie. Alg geo was a nightmare class that murdered me, diff geo was my last-min choice after the dude teaching complex was being an ass about undergrads taking his course. Ended up dropping diff geo in the final week with my one-time enrollment exception, passed quals analysis with B+, and got an undeserved A in alg geo.
Stuck around for quals analysis and alg geo part B in winter quarter, then school added new commutative algebra course. So still 3 grad courses. B in all of them.
Then final quarter I decided to drop the alg geo sequence because it was a nightmare. School had a course in noncommutative ring theory as part of the same sequence containing the comm alg course. Stuck with that and the quals analysis, and added a reading course in category theory. I was so burned out that I was literally studying like 3 days a week. Thought I was gonna die. was not fun.

Anyway, that puts me in my current situation

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:42 PM

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im having algebraicheadache

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 4:43 PM

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I'm convinced that I've finally found the right pacing that works for me after all the stumbling around but it's kind of late.

Also I'm not sure it matters, but I have ADHD. It's really been a struggle for me to get my shit together. I've lost my diagnosis from high school and I'm a little bit discouraged about trying to get rediagnosed as an adult.

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anyway thanks for listening to me vent about my academic bs

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Im similar to you

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In that I get straight B+ A-

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and all feel undeserved

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and time mangement is WIP

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and alg geo prof is bad lecturer

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i think id like alg geo but the prof has failed me twice

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he didnt operate office hours correctly was the worst part

wild lantern Jul 30, 2021, 4:48 PM

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I feel like most people suck at time mgmt, it doesn't seem like an issue that's really solvable or whatever either. By actively working on it you two are probably doing more than many other ppl would.

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 4:49 PM

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I feel like time management is a skill and I needed more time to learn it than most

wild lantern Jul 30, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Of course. What I mean is that being self aware enough to even recognize it as a skill is more than a lot of people lol.

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This is a good thing.

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 4:52 PM

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I see. Thanks for the reassurance. I'm hoping next year goes smoothly. Never doing 3 grad courses again lol

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 4:53 PM

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latent forge and alg geo prof is bad lecturer

Same. My alg geo prof was the nicest person but he suffered from the problem of finding everything too obvious to explicitly explain.

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Is it just me or does alg geo literature in particular seem to suffer from this problem? My biggest problem was that many of the isomorphisms were established but never again mentioned explicitly even when it seems to matter what the identifications are

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 4:56 PM

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mild pebble Is it just me or does alg geo literature in particular seem to suffer from this ...

Well the alg geo prof was my undergraduate analysis prof for two semesters

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during corona too

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so im giving him some leeway

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:00 PM

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one day i will climb the mountain of alg geo and conquer it. but for now i just want to nap

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:05 PM

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comm alg is very like

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metal

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like heavy metal

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cool

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:07 PM

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I loved comm alg. ah gotta dive back into eisenbud's beautifully thicc book

devout nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 5:11 PM

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MetalNinja custom emote?!

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butter

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:12 PM

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dude no

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do atiyah

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atiyah is actually metal

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like the exercises oh

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metal as fuck

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by metal i mean spicy and fun as hell

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and i dont think atiyah problems are boring or vague tbh

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thats just my opinion

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:14 PM

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So in the beginning of the class we were discussing comm alg books including Atiyah and my prof was like "I picked Eisenbud because I prefer books that are actually readable"

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:14 PM

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wow really

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i thought atiyah mcdonald is like

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one of the best readable texts ever

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like i actually think its one of the best ive eever read

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yea maybe thats an unpopular opinion i guess haha

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:15 PM

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okay he didnt have exactly the tone i'm presenting but he did actually say that lol

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but i do have Atiyah and I plan to put it to use very soon

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:16 PM

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exercises are metal as fuckk

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i stopped at chapter 3 tho 😦

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turns out i have to know topology

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asked me to draw spec(Z) and i was like what

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wydm by draw u idiot

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turns out im the idiot

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:16 PM

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i thought it was specZ[t], which is uh even weirder

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:17 PM

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asked for alot of specs

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i just iddnt understand the word draw

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:17 PM

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reasons for this?

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:17 PM

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burnt dune asked me to draw spec(Z) and i was like what

draw? lol

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:18 PM

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yea

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why boring

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its so fast

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a 600 eisenbud isnt boring and this isb oring 😦

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:18 PM

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spec(X) is all prime ideals as basis or something?

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:18 PM

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whats intuition in algebra

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yes

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:18 PM

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whats a better text?

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:18 PM

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actually vakil

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:19 PM

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title pls?

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Also I think it's absolutely atrocious that the most popular paperback copy is under 150 pages with the print quality of a rushed photocopy and they're charging like $80 for it

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but i bought it, so what does that say about me

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:21 PM

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quality baby

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ur a man/woman of taste

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:22 PM

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whats the name of vakil book?

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:22 PM

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rising sea

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:22 PM

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sounds mystical

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but i thought AM was for comm algebra?

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:23 PM

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uea

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yea

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it is

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:23 PM

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your saying this book is a substitute in ways?

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:23 PM

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yea

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:23 PM

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oh no

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:23 PM

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its called rising sea the foundations of AG

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:23 PM

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table of contents made me guh

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im going to read prerequisites

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:27 PM

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you can get away with normal ring theory

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and point-set topology

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localization stuff is self contained

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:29 PM

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burnt dune localization stuff is self contained

that is the chapter about sheaves and stuff?

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:30 PM

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latent forge whats a better text?

I mean if you intend to study more alg geo you could check out Eisenbud.

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Im only asking because I plan to study hard for my first grad algebra class

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but idk the book we will use and neither does prof

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ill post the description

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cut off part says theory of localization

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and modules over PIDs

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:33 PM

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You definitely don't want to use a comm alg book for that.

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:34 PM

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atiyah macdonald doesnt give intuition for things at all

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:34 PM

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I mean maybe as a supplement but most of your learning will come from a general alg text like dummit and foote

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:34 PM

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I dont know what more there is to basic properties of rings fields and modules

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:34 PM

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like i only truly appreciate the things i learnt from it after doing some aNT and a bit of AG

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:35 PM

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what else do you think the class will talk about?

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:35 PM

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modules

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:35 PM

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i hope it wont be mostly review so im just curious

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:35 PM

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tensor products

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:35 PM

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oh yeah barely did anything with modules

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:35 PM

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exact sequences of modules and stuff

odd narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 5:35 PM

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latent forge

Is this a 1 semester course?

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:35 PM

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its 2 part

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ill post second desc

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:36 PM

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maybe touch some rep/char theory

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idk

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:36 PM

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👀

#

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completions sounds fun

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:37 PM

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oh okay that's a more advanced description

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:37 PM

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completions are nice

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:37 PM

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this is second semester

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:37 PM

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you give ur ring a topology and complete it with respect to it

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:37 PM

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zarkarski or something?

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or is that something else?

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:37 PM

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nah, they will use an a-adic topology

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its similar to p-adic topology in Q

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you generate ur topology from an ideal

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:38 PM

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oh

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:38 PM

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wait

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are u johndoe

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:38 PM

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i might be

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:38 PM

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yea

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u are

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Is it sinilar to the thing about taking prime ideals as basis?

odd narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 5:38 PM

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homological algebra zoomEyes

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 5:39 PM

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sounds like a fun course

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:39 PM

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did people like

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do homological algebra for topology first

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:39 PM

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iirc you take the powers of an ideal as a basis

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:39 PM

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mild pebble sounds like a fun course

i agree

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:39 PM

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or something like that

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:39 PM

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or they just looked at maps and said hey what about ker/im ?

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:39 PM

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i dont remember all the details kek

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do topology b4 homological alg

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or else it will be completely unmotivated

burnt dune Jul 30, 2021, 5:40 PM

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so like

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homology was invented in like

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topological context

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at first

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?

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:40 PM

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im trying to do algebra topology and algebra at same time

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:40 PM

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thats a good idea nine9s

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:40 PM

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algebraicheadaches was saying 3 classes is too much

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but im dumb

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so ill probably get by with minimal grades unless i study now

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:41 PM

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It really depends on the classes

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if they build off of each other i think it can be good to take many classes at the same time

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:41 PM

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ill post the class descriptions

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:41 PM

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but if its super disjoint then it might be better to take one of em later

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 5:46 PM

#

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I think I need most review for analysis though

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too many new things being covered

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and most unfamiliar

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rn im only using Halsey Royden for analysis and Allen Hatcher for AT

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but im moving slowly through both

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:02 PM

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that looks like a tough courseload. That analysis course seems to go right into functional analysis territory which might be a bit intense. But a good head start could make things way more doable so idk

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:04 PM

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im still slowly going though halsey royden and just got past definition for lebesgue measure

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next sections are on integral

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:04 PM

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I would personally probably just focus on algebra adjacent topic on sem

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and analysis the other

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:04 PM

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my time is limited

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i only have 4 semsters left

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:04 PM

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could you reorder so that a later algebra adjacent course is done this sem

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:05 PM

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yea

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:05 PM

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cause having a common thread in everything ur learning will make life much easier

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:05 PM

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wait ill pull up options

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lie groups and lie algebra/algebeaic geometry are only choices

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and alg geo has my accursed analysis teacher

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i personally think id like analysis if I learned it with a different teacher

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Lie groups can be nice to learn alongside the stuff

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 6:07 PM

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lie theory is so coooooooool

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:07 PM

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it sounds cool

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but im not sure how detrimental it would be for me to disregard analysis and continue with algebra/topology related classes

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I really am interested in analysis also, but im objectively worse

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 6:08 PM

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i disregarded algebra completely beyond a first course

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:08 PM

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i got my first B- from analysis

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 6:08 PM

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didn't impact my grad apps

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:08 PM

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well its not as much ignoring it

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as much as like

deep mango Jul 30, 2021, 6:08 PM

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also lie theory is analysis adjacent

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:08 PM

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you want a common thread in everything ur doing at a given time

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that way you will learn each topic better

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cause u see the interconnections

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:09 PM

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yes i agree since last sem i took topology,analysis, algebra

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all second courses besides topology

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:09 PM

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lie groups is more topological memes than analysis catThink

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:09 PM

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ok i have questions then

sharp mulch Jul 30, 2021, 6:09 PM

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I literally only ever took undergrad algebra

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And I got into grad school without issue

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:10 PM

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say I decide to take algebra,lie algebra,algebraic topology for 2 semesters

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I have 2 semesters left

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what do?

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:10 PM

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oh these are for 2 sems

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:10 PM

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im truly lost after i complete those sequences but I have some cool options

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:10 PM

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well its really the question of what you want to do vs grad apps

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bc as ppl are saying you will probably be fine with the classes you ahve

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:13 PM

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man

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idk wq

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Well with my knowledge as of today I feel like I really enjoy most of the topics I am learning, and feel like topology is the most interesting topic in general. However for my career goals I think that knowing a lot of analysis would make me very flexible in case I decide to go down another path. My goal is to eventually work as a researcher or do R&D/ Consulting for a company. The reason for me wanting to be a researcher is just out of pure interest mixed with dumb childhood dreams. I want to do R&D and consulting because it seems more stable and I will end up with transferable skills.

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Also to add on I performed better in my topology and algebra classes compared to my analysis classes. So I have a strong case to continue

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But you are saying that my choice should ultimately depend on what topics I want to pursue in grad school

light needle Jul 30, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Well I am saying do what class seem enjoyable cause you will probably be good w.r.t to grad apps regardless

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:27 PM

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god willing, thats my biggest fear. I just want to get into any school at this point because top schools seem too daunting

edgy atlas Jul 30, 2021, 6:28 PM

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@latent forge good luck! also apply to a lot of grad schools, grad admits are a complete crapshoot

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:28 PM

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grad admissions are stressing me tf out right now

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:28 PM

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I dont know if Grad applications give waivers

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I would apply to like 40 if I could get waivers

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:28 PM

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is there any extra benefit to doing a masters?

edgy atlas Jul 30, 2021, 6:29 PM

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mild pebble grad admissions are stressing me tf out right now

don't stress! you got this

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:29 PM

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mild pebble is there any extra benefit to doing a masters?

ive been told no if you have the grad classes

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:32 PM

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latent forge I dont know if Grad applications give waivers

I think you can usually get a limited number of waivers thru your school based on need. by limited i think it's usually like 4

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:32 PM

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thats poop

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:33 PM

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yeah it's a scam

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i really hate admissions bs

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:35 PM

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edgy atlas don't stress! you got this

Thanks man! I'm trying to take it easy n stuff lately

edgy atlas Jul 30, 2021, 6:35 PM

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also don't make my mistake and look into the actual application on the portal ASAP

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sometimes you have to write a lot of random things on the portal

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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ahhhhhh i'm allergic to being proactive

edgy atlas Jul 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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dooo it. I know how scary it is

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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okay i'll probably look into it. thanks

edgy atlas Jul 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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but if you do it i promise it will not be any more difficult than a school assignment

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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btw how early do you start emailing profs for letters of rec?

edgy atlas Jul 30, 2021, 6:36 PM

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and honestly it was easier than my undergrad apps

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Oh, a few months in advance is good

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Also usually you make that request through the portal as well

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:37 PM

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so like now if i plan to apply to the next cycle?

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oh i see

edgy atlas Jul 30, 2021, 6:37 PM

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at least in the US 😆 i dont know if its exactly the same in europe

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but yeah probably give them a heads up that you want a LoR, then submit the official request through the portal, thats how it works here

latent forge Jul 30, 2021, 6:38 PM

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what is LoR and you need 3 letters?

fluid gyro Jul 30, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Lord of the Rings

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nah its letters of recommendation

bronze pelican Jul 30, 2021, 6:41 PM

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The state of Quora questions

mild pebble Jul 30, 2021, 6:41 PM

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latent forge thats poop

oops i think i might have been misremembering. i don't think it's thru your school actually. i think different schools have their own thing

nimble shuttle Jul 30, 2021, 6:48 PM

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bronze pelican The state of Quora questions

LOL ! - MEME

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I swear some of these people have never been on the internet before

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vast surge Jul 30, 2021, 6:51 PM

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There is a dark and gritty Snagglepuss reboot.

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I don't know who asked for this or why, but I purchased it and will read it.

odd narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 6:56 PM

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mild pebble grad admissions are stressing me tf out right now

same but i'm still a year away

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but starting to stress right now

bronze pelican Jul 30, 2021, 6:57 PM

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u will get through it

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 6:58 PM

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monkey

odd narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 6:58 PM

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latent forge I dont know if Grad applications give waivers

wdym by waiver

narrow rock Jul 30, 2021, 6:58 PM

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fee waiver

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probably

odd narwhal Jul 30, 2021, 6:58 PM

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ah