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am back at home waiting out the night cycle bcs dark water is spooky
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sad, no. You can reactivate some signal stuff but u can't reactivate the sunbeam area's signal
Hmm
Maybe you can look up the general direction of the island or something
Relative to the aurora
hey, random question: i don't know where this belongs, but where should i ask whether people want to study a certain textbook with me? should i ask in the corresponding topic's channel?
i am also seeing a lot of
sharks in the direction im going
so shud probably fuck off back home
What's the game's objective?
I just saw like
5 sharks
Quitting out of the game to load the savestate back at home
fuck that shit


literal hellscape
alright mission successful i got to the damn stinky place
Built a beacon :nice:
there is this fucking idiot manatee looking thing that always hangs out around my base and makes a lot of noise
it literally never leaves
it just swims in circles
wtf
i guess it's my pet now
i will name it ben shapiro
Don't you have weapons in the game?
yea but im not gonna kill manatee friend
maybe the sharks just want a hug
predator moment
lets go bucks bby
you're stranded on an alien ocean planet after a big spaceship you were on crashed, and you need to figure out how to survive / get off
mmm how to get off


also sounds like satisfactory
lol
except you don't get off
The factory must grow.
they care more now probably with optional standardized tests
i wouldnt be too bothered tho
No thanks I'm staying in the ship
What if you run out of food and water

I guess that's when the game ends 
being a scared mouse saves ur life sometimes
wise man
I think this largely depends on what school you apply to
However in terms of importance - they are the least importance for your HS career
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What are you all upto?
I am on an alien planet, hiding in the ruins of a large spaceship.
Good
Ignoring work
Nice 
Ok I just need some general advice. It's not an emotional dump or plea for acceptance, just need to know what I'm doing wrong here
It's you, you're the problem! You need to fix yourself. Don't put it on others
Oh wait
You haven't started
||Go on||
I'm memeing you. Ok srs time
How does anyone get into a a social circle without being invited? And when is it a sign to give up/move on?
that is a complicated question
You gotta treat it like good hunting, ya gotta isolate one or two from the pack
what is a social circle
Go out with them, have a good time
Word will spread you're cool
Then rinse and repeat
semi-insular group of friends
Until you know like 60-75% of the circle
Didn't work out that way most of the Times
that's a very very reasonable strategy, i found this a lot easier by having classes with people
Got separated because I don't have much to talk about
so if you have a shared class with two people in the social circle, and another shared class with another few people
you are helpful / cordial with both
and they mention you to one another
If you don't have much to talk about, then you gotta plan an event with little talking. Movies, concerts, etc.
you can also always bring some corn in your pocket
and throw at them once in a while
it'll make you more likeable and create trust
I see you have poultry friends
make sure to go on and on to them about trashy reality tv shows and how they're not actually that bad, that will surely get you friends.
Yeah I have a hard time justifying trash
Not being elitist
But just talking about trash shows and celebrities isn't my thing
perhaps you need elitist friends

that could work ye
I said I'm not being one. Am I being an elitist?
just go on the streets and kiss everyone you find on the mouth
eventually you'll fond a friend
I don't know what it's like being socially timid, I just walk up to people and start talkin' to them if I wanna hang out
And then plan it
typical texan.
I'm not from Texas, I'm from Los Angeles RYC
lol
Does anyone know/remember the game Purble Place? Windows 7 Desktop game.
They also expect me be an elitist. Why would they want me as a friend?
just go and talk to each other
it is super easy to talk about lifting
well, you could learn to be part of the elite.
Go to the opera if they're elitist
The thing is, I've quit social media because of repeated ghosting
I think social media makes people anti-social
I do pullups
sufficiently light weights
I can do infinitely many incomplete pull ups
(Cause I never start)
but yeah researcher im not joking
get into lifting and youll have plenty to talk about
The gym/sports
lifting
Are a great way to make friends
I'm learning guitar
People around are asleep and I'm rusty with that song
soccer
I don't hear music

but yeah sports definitely help
Still in the noob phase though. Practicing scales and some songs
team sports force you to make friends
It's fine - but I like brofib's suggestions. Get an activity going w/ people
play eruption
Music classes?
if it has other people in it
music classes r good
Music classes are a great way
then yes
but eventually you want to be playing music with others too
Also tends to keep down the talking
Gym membership and exercise classes are good too
Okayy
COVID though
I'm in Texas baby, everything's open and no masks required
delta variant 

but delta is very small so it's okay ๐ค
it'll be guucci my gang
why do you hate me Brofibration
You deserve to be sullied
I'm sure some guy must be selling COVID culture in some resin in an auction
i'm crying ok i'll leave
Exit stage left
Thank you for your performance Carla_
you're welcome
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Also another thing that happened recently
I..umm.. don't feel comfortable talking about it
Ok
Well I hope your team has better odds of winning
Why

Yeah but why so much hatred for a team?
Did they cheat?
Like Ferrari in F1 cheated and got away with it
And they're elitist with their cars
the fuel thing?
I hate them
they werent cheating tho
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Pumping more fuel when the flow regulation device isn't scanning is not cheating?
if the rule is "the flow regulation device should say everything's okay", then they werent cheating

it's a loophole
what redbull did was super big-brained tho
I'm inclined to agree with Brofib here
"Red hammer"
Yeah that was smart
Changed my mind
@crystal stone another question if you don't mind
sure
Is it too superficial to want to get into a good University for a good social circle of similar people? Or is it reasonable?
It's not superficial to want to have a good social circle. It depends on what you mean by good University
If you're defining good University to mean: there's a good community, the education is challenging, and the profs are engaging
Then that's not superficiality
I am go to harvards
Superficiality is saying I want "X University because only the best can get in and I'm the best"
I want professors to make me feel like there's a lot of learn
That's not superficial
Dude I don't even consider myself average sometimes.
Sure, I was just giving an example of what superficiality is
Okayy
Maybe more subtle for you might be "UCLA is the best school for me because the math department is very good"
That could be true
Yeahh that's an accurate reason I can feel
Wherever I go is the best university because I'm the best
It wasn't true for me, I probably would have been better off at LB or Irvine - but I learned a lot of things at LA that I wouldn't have elsewhere
That form of superficiality isn't as bad
But it can still be a double-edged sword
UCLA might be a wonderful environment for you
Or it might drive you to severe burn out
Okayy
It's hard to say without going somewhere. All you can do is make the best approximation you can
I chose to attend Orange Coast College for water polo
I chose to attend UCLA for financial aid reasons (and pride, tbh)
Ohh
I chose to attend CSULB for financial aid and other bureaucratic reasons
i thought i wanted to go to some school in CA like Berkeley, but in hindsight I probably wouldn't have adjusted very well and im perfectly fine where i ended up
Of the CSULB gave me the best math education for where I was at
I want to get into a university in Canada for employment and immigration reasons. Also to learn maths
Of the three*
Now, CSULB is nowhere nearly ranked as well as UCLA - nor are there that many active researchers
But there was a community that I felt I could thrive in, and professors I found engaging
I didn't end up producing any piece of original math during my time at LA

But I did at LB and Irvine. Maybe it was because of my training at LA I was able to do that
Ohh 
It's hard to say
Canadia looks like fun
I don't know if they do that in Canada
At least when the furnace isn't on

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Also, will any of my given reasons justify doing another bachelors?
Because I probably don't have enough grades in my engineering
how much more time would that be
3 years
I don't feel like I'm thinking clearly
Like, I like maths. But I don't know if I can justify my interest with 3 years of extra grind
i wouldn't want to do that personally
are you thinking math grad instead of engineering?
Yes
gotcha
I don't like engineering
i found that out early on yeah
Though I'm just a year away from getting a BE
Just feels like I've fell into a big pile of horse shit
@crystal stone got any take on this?
I meant this
You forgot the AK at the end btw
Love,
AK
I took a nap
nice
i wish i could take naps
when i take naps i can feel my blood pump inside of me harder
idk what it is
either it's my heart rate increasing or maybe my blood pressure increasing
and i wake up feeling less relieved
so maybe naps aren't good for me
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in any case
am i the only one still hyped for the white switch ๐ญ
it looks so clean and i know it's the exact same hardware plus some marginal improvements
but i want one now since i don't have a switch of my own ๐ญ
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AK?
Yes
AK
What's that
Idk lmao
AK



14-year-olds in voice chat. "hi guys can someone plz do my test for me thanks!" over and over again and they keep coming and we're trying to do a reading group goddamnit we're not homework help for highschool students and we certainly won't help you cheat
Are you sure about that
They don't look to be in there right now but I guarantee there's going to be a few within the next hour or two
STOP EATING BUTTER SANDWICHES
WHAT IT WAS JUST ONE AND IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO
BUTTER SANDWICHES ARE GOOD
ill have you know
simply mute them
EAT MORE BUTTER SANDWICHES
because of the butter sandwich
Honestly neither do I
I just said some numbers
I don't even know what my blood sugar is
never got it tested
I mean that is actually my blood pressure
my blood pressure is D/N
My blood pressure is $\mathbb{Q}^{\times}/\mathbb{Q}^{\times 2}$
Quintic Formula
go get your blood checked, they give you a list of cool numbers
My blood pressure is $\frac{x}{y}, \ x,y \in \mathbb{C}$.
d/dx
LMAO
loll
studying for my last qual
this is fun
this seems fine to integrate from -infinity to infinity
residue moment
yea the solution is cute
So beautiful 
just sprinkle some ML inequality here and there

What qual, complex only or general analysis?
just complex
tfw marxist leninist inequality
oh this looks cute
but i dont get it
its analytic
wtf r u suppsoed to do
ng pls explain the memes
hint: can you rotate the contour so that this becomes a Gaussian integral?
it looks similar to the real bell curve one, is it the same trick
that's why i thought you expand it as a laurent series and do the residual of a closed loop that includes the real line
Entering my 3rd year of PhD ๐ญ
and use ML ineq to show the complex chonk is 0
I finished my quals immediately though.
We used to have a 30% failure rate but I got lucky
all the questions were exactly those I practiced

most of my attempts were killed by family emergency happening around that time and then being a mess during the lockdown
it's alright though I should be able to finish them off this time
I have two more attempts 
paper soon 

I haven't published in 1.5 years
what are qualifiers?
Tests you take so they don't boot you from your PhD program.
huh, i'd never heard of that
Depending on the department it ranges from a formality, to a lethal exam that boots like 1/2 of the kids or more.
it's standard
and i start my third year soon
Some departments also don't do qualifiers. I think Cornell has none.
^
yea
edd is just goated bro
he doesn't need to take the quals
mhm
i guess from there its just contour surgery
uhhh maybe theres some ML inequality/jordan lemma or something for the curvy bits
yea the integrals over the remaining two go to 0 as R->infinity so then you're done
wtf is ML inequality
but yea it's cute that you can rotate a highly oscillatory integral to a rapidly converging integral
ML inequality is a bounding argument
you give an upper bound for an integral as the length times the largest magnitude
what does it stand for tho
and show that goes to 0, so the integral is 0
aren't lots of complex functions super wiggly in one direction
magnitude-length
Maximum value on contour * Length of contour
or smth
o i see
this is true for real valued integrals too
but for whatever reason i never saw this until complex variables class ๐
lolll
same
yeah my grad school didn't have any quals
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"it's standard" and "most depts don't have it"
although my old advisors first student was really bad so he exploited a loophole to make him sit an exam which led to him getting booted.
like struggling with multivariable calc level of really bad.
icic
In the US at least.
aha
for the most part
that's it
They're good, they kick out all the brainlets, and they also occasionally kick out actual geniuses.
smh, the states doing weird stuff
Which is always funny when it happens.
yeah in the US it is definitely the norm, but the structure is also different there from most other countries.
its a lot longer before you settle with an advisor, there is a decent amount of grad coursework at the start etc.
and the whole process is longer
why not replace the GRE with a nation-wide qual
We had a math kid coming in already publishing single author papers on his own time, and he fucked up the functional analysis qual and got kicked out.
you mean like in a handful of asian countries
yea I sort of started writing this paper (and some other papers) immediately when I started grad school, so I sort of spent some of the time I could have spent doing quals early on doing research
everyone hates it
(and doing research slowly, for that matter)
He fucked it up like 4 times, so it's not like it wasn't his fault, but he obviously was capable of doing research.
And good research too.
Anyways pretty funny.
yeah rip
yeah rip him
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this person is probably just gonna go to another country
lmfao so I wonder like

if somehow I didn't pass my quals by the end of the year
which would be ???
but like
I'd be going to Toronto
uh oh
(unless not passing quals means my department narcs on me to Toronto)
idk how that works lol
lol that'd be a bit harsh of them
move to europe
I feel like they will generally let things slide in that sort of circumstance unless there are many people in the dept who don't believe in you/
I mean the move would be to uhhh not get into that situation in the first place 
yeah ofc
yeah, don't do a phd
Other fun PhD stories, we had a kid who did absolutely no research, spent his entire PhD time collecting masters degrees.
He eventually wrote a meme thesis and graduated with like 4 free MSes
lmfaooo
well good for him, although I feel bad for his advisor if there wasn't open communication about his intentions / changing intentions, if decisions were made in the middle of the program.
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I think his advisor either didn't care or knew about the plan.
no research% is a good speedrun category
yeah some advisors are chill about these things, it'd depend a lot on their current career goals and what stage of career they are in.
@atomic cypress what's your research area?
one of these
Stochastic PDEs in physics
Tbh you might've already said it but I just jumped in and saw you're a third year grad student (same) and scrolled instantly to the bottom
I don't think I've mentioned it
Ah nice
oh nice
eh nice
ih nice

teafornice
i'm doing some inverse scattering junk rn and stochastic pdes (which i know nothing about) have popped up here and there
My research may or may not have to do with quantum chaos/semiclassical analysis
quantum semiclassics
Which is a different flavor I imagine from your style but maybe you use tools from the area? Idk
me and this prof were "researching" something with ergodic theory
and randomly he goes "this can probably be proved with quantum chaos"
apparently they're related?
It's probably different, I know some people go down hard the harmonic/semiclassical analysis route. I'm more on the geometry side, trying to force gauge-like invariances in dispersive PDEs using stochastic methods.
Nice nice
Yeah my stuff isn't likely gonna be actually physical
More arithmetic
Until I need NSF money
Then it's very physical
More fun PhD stories, a team at our uni got a DARPA grant to build a military sensor control system. However, upon careful reading of the contract, they realized they could fulfill the grant by proving that some control system satisfying the requirement exists.
They did provide a totally non-constructive proof, and DARPA considered the project complete.
That's hysterical
Did they go for that because it was easier? Or out of moral concerns?
Easier, and I'm told DARPA redid the same grant except this time specified that an actual prototype system needed to be built.
The team was unable to construct it though.
Lmao
my prof in functional analysis like "my work is probably applicable in quantum information theory, but as far as the NSF is concerned its very applicable in quantum information theory"
I used to think NSF meant "non-sufficient funds" and that NSF grants were for really poor researchers
yes
Me usually: So my research is about understanding the Laplacian on arithmetic manifolds and Bruhat-Tits buildings, and the relation to subconvexity of L-functions in number theory
Me @ NSF: My research is about understanding chaotic dynamics of quantum states on manifolds, and analogous behavior in networks
You know how to play the game.
My advisor is trying to teach me.
I'm not very good at it yet, I don't know what peeps like to fund.
So far I've been coasting off my advisor's skills at getting grant money, which is top tier.
Oh idk if that was actually correct, I've never tried playing this game before
I haven't published shit lol
I just made that up ๐
You know it actually sounds super plausible, machine learning people actually do run manifold <-> network correspondences.
My advisor kinda hinted that one area I could end up going toward is "quantum chaos on graphs and Bruhat-Tits buildings"
It's one among various things he has in mind
And probably one of the more appealing ones to me? I like combinatorics ๐
I can't even count up to 20, much less do combinatorics.
So yeah idk it feels like you either talk about dynamics of quantum states on manifolds
And harp on the physics
Or you harp on the computer science side by replacing every instance of the word "graph" with "network"
Especially if you can pretend it has something to do with quantum information theory or something
I'm lucky right now because there's an actual engineering application to my research, though even if my research fails and I prove my conjecture false people will still use the application because it looks like it works.
It does mean though I won't have to worry about grants for a bit.
@forest jackal do you bs the physics when you need grant money?
a little, but I don't put too much effort into doing so.
That's convenient! So far I haven't really needed grant money tbh
I'm a TA and that's where my stipend comes from. Plus this last year I didn't pay rent since i was with parents so I've got a bit saved up for sure
obviously doing good research and getting a TT position is higher priority (and more fun).
financially I am comfortable atm, and work with people who have great grant money.
How much does grant-writing influence your ability to get a TT position?
Like I assume in general for math people the salary is very comfortable even with 0 grant money
Yeah, the grant money is used for hiring postdocs.
not as much as strong research that's for sure. grant writing is something you develop over your career and is more important later on.
Gotcha
strong research
You don't have to call me out like this.
That's I guess good lol. I thought it was largely expected that you could rake in grant money if you wanted to have a decent shot, along with the good research
Which feels intimidating
like obviously very important when you are building a research team of your own
well TT should feel intimidating, it's fucking hard haha.
Yeah for sure, getting grad students out of TA loads, summer funding, postdocs. But yeah if they don't expect you to be getting grants left and right as a postdoc in order to have a shot at TT that's good
but I don't think that winning grants matters as much as other things.
Damn I thought all you needed was to get at least one paper in Annals ๐ฆ
One thing I'm jealous of is some students advisors give them a problem they know for sure is solved.
Or not solved but solvable.
You don't need Journal of Aoshima or anything
that's too much mollycoddling
My professor and I have no idea if my problem is solvable.
Just be good enough that all problems are solvable
I know this isnโt the right channel but Iโm like super dumb and need help learning smth so lmk if u can help
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and its a sign that they/you are not being ambitious enough with problem selection
you can always adjust sights downwards if you struggle due to bad luck or the problem just being way too hard, and that's fine
that's what actual research is like anyway
@velvet dagger can
Actual research is me picking low-hanging fruits in interdisciplinary fields.
The strat is to have a problem which you know is solvable and still moderately interesting with a given hypothesis
This is where my best publications are.
And then you really think that it's not needed
@velvet dagger can u ? ๐ญ
And by best I mean most-cited, not smartest.
haha nice, I should do that
No I can't roaches
See u lied ๐
Uh ik
Gomez has never said a true thing in his life
the other day we had a long meeting with the geophysics dept just having talks about what we each do because some of the tools in microlocal analysis applicable to inverse problems could see use in seismology and shit.
All his papers have a subtle but deadly error
Oh weird
Honestly if quantum chaos on graphs has applications to CS that would be pretty cool
Gomez has never said a true thing in his life
All we need Gomez to do is to try to write down "the Riemann hypothesis is true", then we'd have confirmation.
(That's not confirmed my area but the more "bounds on spherical functions" business is mildly less cool to me at a glance)
it was interesting, like we spoke totally different languages but at the heart of the real world problems they were interested in there were interesting questions about recovering things like the metric of a manifold from info about behaviour of PDE on it etc.
gomez at Courant Institute confirmed?
idk if anything will come of it, am busy enough, but I have a position lined up next year working with a microlocal analyst who specialises in inverse problems in any case.
Doxxed
Aoshima University
I will say lately this has actually had like
A semiserious analysis group
A year ago this wasn't very true
It was just me-ish, gomez, and a user we had at the time named Jan
That one prof just facing the right 
dinner after the weekly analysis seminar: https://soranews24.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/04/ci-9.png?w=580
when there's not enough food provided
That's just an analysis seminar after the presenter makes a mistake. Not pictured: presenter's body being fed upon in the middle of the pack.
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This will be fun...
senior prof and his two new grad students who just passed quals: https://winkgo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Cat-Island-in-Japan-Is-Heaven-for-Japanese-Cats-in-Fukuoka-04.jpg
Lmao quals
Those were a time
I got so scared for them and then it was like lul
Because for some reason that year the tests were easier than usual
bro @vivid halo the integral over the complex axis is hell
i didnt know how to do it and i saw one paper online use another contour to do it ๐ญ
I mean you see what the contour shape should be right?
you have the original contour which is the interval [-R,R]
right
I mean it's whatever turns the integral into the Gaussian integral
it should be 45 degrees yea
i was trying 90 to get that minus in but i thought that it would still work
ill try 45
good to know
lollll
ok yes itโs trivial now
lmao
no wonder
this is a good integral im glad i did it
ty for sharing
sneeze
blesu
How do I get a magma licence ?
Getting it
very helpful
I wish I knew who
Im kind of transitioning between undergrad and gradschool
I dont know which institution to askkkk
How do you tackle math exams? Asking this because I can usually solve most exercises and homework by myself, but during an exam, mostly because of the time constraint, I can't manage to grasp the "path" to the solution in a reasonable time and I usually end up with like 80/85% of the total score. Might be a strange question but whatever, I'm open to any advice/experience
i like to do past exams
usually serves as a good review of what types of problems to expect and problem solving techniques to use
that's what i usually end up doing, but the exams i've done like this feel like i'm not studying/understanding the subject, but i'm just studying how to solve the ex. imposter syndrome ? lol
it sounds like time management might be an angle to consider
i like to do timed quarter length runs of exams to see how solid my time management is. sometimes it means doing problems without a review but then leaving yourself hints as to what you want to come back and double check. of course this depends on the exam, but i'm just thinking of the math/cs ones were speed was an issue (especially because of the pandemic)
I just realized that if I go to Irvine I have to either
Take and pass the Algebra Qual
OR
Take the Algebra sequence and just do the 2 analysis quals
Fucking trash
You'll be at gradschool for the next five years and won't be at your undergrad for much longer. I'd ask there, so that you only have to do it once.
Good point
It is funny that all of these software start with M lol

community university of new york

Cool Urangutans of New Yonkers
got an email telling me i need research training due to a grant? kind of cute considering i wasn't told about this until a few months after being hired
cheese
cheese is amazing

@deep mango theorem numbering is fixed
I've written my notes and some of them seem quite cryptic to me now
Ordinarily, I would agree with this statement. Throughout most of my life, I have lived off of a diet of primarily bread and cheese, with very little other sustenance. I was particularly fond of cheeses from Switzerland. Upon returning to America, however, I have discovered the unfortunate truth that cheese is capable of being bad. Even Wisconsin cheese, which is meant to be among the best cheese in America, is inferior to even average cheeses from Europe. I would argue that the primary reason for this difference in taste is the pasteurization process.
See, in America, cheese is made from pasteurized milk, and it is illegal to sell or make cheese from unpasteurized milk. In most of the cheese-producing portions of Europe, they use pasteurized milk. While nominally the reason for this is to prevent people from getting sick, if dairy-producing animals and dairy-producing equipment is kept in sanitary conditions, there is virtually no risk of bacterial spread. Rather, I suspect that this change (while certainly sensible in the 1800s) is merely kept in order to prop up the American cheese industry, and especially the Wisconsin cheese industry, which would not be able to survive if it were easy and legal to import European cheeses.
Perhaps there is a secondary reason for the inferiority of American cheeses, however - even the good ones are often milder in taste. Where American food is often more adventurous in having lots of flavours (see, for example, the variety of available pizza toppings or oreo flavours), there seems to be a preference for the blandest, most over-processed cheese possible. Kraft Singles are utterly disgusting, but if that's the only cheese one has been exposed to, one would become used to it, and so even the producers of (relatively) high quality cheese in America are aiming for the over-processed flavour of Kraft singles.
Noticeably, it's not just in the cheese department that America is inferior to products from Europe. American charcuterie is both more expensive and of a lower quality as well, in my experience, which leaves very few options to pair the cheese with. Likewise, American bread is most frequently the mass-produced, pre-sliced wonderbread variety of bread, as opposed to the hand-baked and hand-kneaded bread. Even more than that, it's always white bread, with no grains and very little flavour aside from perhaps a slight sweetness. (In fact, the Irish government classifies many American breads as being more accurately cakes).
In summary, the statement "cheese is amazing" should not be taken as a blanket endorsement, depending on the geographic region. Cheese has the potential to be amazing, and cheese often is amazing. As I have learned since moving to America for college, cheese is also capable of being utterly disappointing.
Owdinawiwy, me wouwd agwee with dis statement. Thwoughout most of my wife, me have wived off of a diet of pwimawiwy bwead and cheese, with vewy wittwe othew sustenance. Me was pawticuwawwy fond of cheeses fwom switzewwand. Upon wetuwning to amewica, howevew, me have discovewed da unfowtunate twuth that cheese ish capabwe of being bad. Even wisconsin cheese, which ish meant to be among da best cheese in amewica, ish infewiow to even avewage cheeses fwom euwope. Me wouwd awgue that da pwimawy weason fow dis diffewence in taste ish da pasteuwization pwocess.
see, in amewica, cheese ish made fwom pasteuwized miwk, and it ish iwwegaw to seww ow make cheese fwom unpasteuwized miwk. In most of da cheese-pwoducing powtions of euwope, dey use pasteuwized miwk. Whiwe nominawwy da weason fow dis ish to pwevent peopwe fwom getting sick, if daiwy-pwoducing animaws and daiwy-pwoducing equipment ish kept in sanitawy conditions, thewe ish viwtuawwy no wisk of bactewiaw spwead. Rathew, me suspect that dis change (whiwe cewtainwy sensibwe in da 1800s) ish mewewy kept in owdew to pwop up da amewican cheese industwy, and especiawwy da wisconsin cheese industwy, which wouwd not be abwe to suwvive if it wewe easy and wegaw to impowt euwopean cheeses.hewwo ish anybowdy thewe??
Pewhaps thewe ish a secondawy weason fow da infewiowity of amewican cheeses, howevew - even da gud ones awe often miwdew in taste. Whewe amewican food ish often mowe adventuwous in having wots of fwavouws, thewe seems to be a pwefewence fow da bwandest, most ovew-pwocessed cheese possibwe. Kwaft singwes awe uttewwy disgusting, but if dats da onwy cheese one has been exposed to, one wouwd become used to it, and so even da pwoducews of (wewativewy) high quawity cheese in amewica awe aiming fow da ovew-pwocessed fwavouw of kwaft singwes.
noticeabwy, it's not just in da cheese depawtment that amewica ish infewiow to pwoducts fwom euwope. Amewican chawcutewie ish both mowe expensive and of a wowew quawity as weww, in my expewience, which weaves vewy few options to paiw da cheese with. Likewise, amewican bwead ish most fwequentwy da mass-pwoduced, pwe-swiced wondewbwead vawiety of bwead, as opposed to da hand-baked and hand-kneaded bwead. Even mowe than that, it's awways white bwead, with no gwains and vewy wittwe fwavouw aside fwom pewhaps a swight sweetness. (in fact, da iwish govewnment cwassifies many amewican bweads as being mowe accuwatewy cakes).
in summawy, da statement "cheese ish amazing" shouwd not be taken as a bwanket endowsement, depending on da geogwaphic wegion. Cheese has da potentiaw to be amazing, and cheese often ish amazing. As me have weawned since moving to amewica fow cowwege, cheese ish awso capabwe of being uttewwy disappointing.
why are these users, despite having active and honorable roles copying someone elses reply to my message and repeating it in chat? you'd expect those roles meant having a minimum of maturity and respect for others...
Because I wrote a five paragraph essay in response to "cheese is amazing".
why are these users, despite having active and honorable roles copying someone elses reply to my message and repeating it in chat? you'd expect those roles meant having a minimum of maturity and respect for others...
Why are these users, despite having active and honorable roles copying someone elses reply to my message and repeating it in chat? you'd expect those roles meant having a minimum of maturity and respect for others...
why awe these usews, despite having active and honowabwe wowes copying someone ewses wepwy to my message and wepeating it in chat? u'd expect those wowes meant having a minimum of matuwity and wespect fow othews...
why are these users, despite having active and honorable roles copying someone elses reply to my message and repeating it in chat? you'd expect those roles meant having a minimum of maturity and respect for others...
Anyway I adore that cheese essay
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's so good, unironically
I had to purchase nitro to be able to get above the 2,000 character limit.
It was well worth the cost
you could just split it in 2 mensages
Lol
Wait
But yeah anyway I decided to write five paragraphs about cheese on a math server.
You are the ones who should be banned spammers. Active role and don't even know the rules. #โhow-to-get-help
now you're asking me to message more?
They seemed to generally do it in 2 posts.
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Ah I see
I like the comment on charcuterie it is not good here
You are the ones who should be banned spammers. Active role and don't even know the rules. #โhow-to-get-help.
@neat lintel end this raid please
skrt
Guess what I found in my book collection that I forgot about, Foundations of Algebraic Topology by Eilenberg and Steenrod
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Sounds like a restaurant
Sooooo coooooool
ryc did you see my message
Yes
Ok
Thank you for fixing that
I'll fix what I can
Oh, have you been to Foundations of Algebraic Topology be Eilenberg and Steenrod? It's great! You need to try their burgers!
But a lot of it will need to be done by you
Can you guess what "Parallel previous bound in 2.2" means
No
There were some notation things
Splitting the memory independent and dependent bounds
Well it's all in the notes I sent you
Yes, thanks for that
they serve burgers of any genus, you just have to ask
I will try to do this in a bit when I get tired of moving books and stuff
Sure sounds good
You also need to compute the homotopy groups of any french fries you order
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stop ๐ญ
I am go to harvards
carla, i do not respect anyone who willingly spends their time on this server
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anyone who does so has sticky cheese in place of their brain
but i'm here against my will
i think melted cheese tastes great
I agree with Ultra here.
Again, I think it depends on the kind of cheese.
Fondue is amazing.
reminder sham sent 80k (80000) messages in one (1) month
i speak from experience
Melted cheese that comes pre-sliced in cling wrap is not good.
melted cling wrap
Welsh Rabbit is one of my favourite foods
melted american cheddar on pasghetti...๐
It's been forever since I've had good Welsh rabbit...
i think europeans sometimes remove the plastic but tbh it's a taste thing
No. If you take off the plastic, you'd have to taste the American cheese.
neither option is right or wrong
Please consider using a better pasta like linguine. Thanks
Some cheeses taste like plastic anyway
Again, I'm positive that this is due to the pasteurization ruining the taste.
ryc were we meeting tomo
vitamin B12
The American cheese industry only survives due to protectionism masked as "public health".
what's weenie?
Uhhh.... Yes?
100% agree
I see
Did someone take anges phone
The American cheese industry only survives due to protectionism masked as "public health".
wait
"tomo"
QA keeps ending their sentences with periods
tomboy
Hopefully I'll be able to make it
I can't wait to meet up with angetenar tomorrow
We can just tell them, but should do that today
Ok let's try to do it tomorrow then
american cheese is literally regular cheese with some additives u guys need to stop being weak
I write my sentences grammatically accurately. That includes ending them with appropriate punctuation.
Yeah
silence ultra alt
No
What a terrible place to have a logistical conversation.
this server is just ryc and anges dms they just let us watch
If linguine refers to tongues.
I mean why else would anyone join a math server
Then what wider body part has fettucine reference?
wait a second...
Feet actually is probably the only sensible thing
Most other things arent flat and long
if your feet are flat, go to the doctor
if RYC's feet are flat, go to the doctor
If flat makes you think of whatevers down there then I'm a very confused man
weird to refer to feet as "whatevers down there"
Feet are down there
Yeah isn't that toes
Toes are more down than feet
How about hands.
yoru toes aren't long?
Hands are flat and long.
Maybe fettucine has to do with hands
The fourth toe on my right foot is over 7 metres long.
,w fettucine
And is very flat
you misspelled meters
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it wasn't me
No I didn't
like 3.2*7ft
It's "metres", not "meters"
:dan:
For the unit of length
Ribbons are flat and long
,w 7 metres in ft
have we classified all the possible pasta shapes?
,calc 3.2*7
Result:
22.4
I was so close.
I like to describe uniform convergence in terms of laying a ribbon over your function
I am magnificent.
,w uniform convergence
lol
We have classified all the possible pasta shapes of genus 0 and 1. Pasta of genus 2 or higher is an open problem.
wow they really do define math
First you're in the fettucine, then you're in the linguine, and eventually you're in the spaghetti
when do we get to fubini-tonelli?
every year the analogy gets weirder until you're 70 and lecturing about how uniform convergence is like sour worms
Ultra....
I agree with ultra here.
Yes but you're an ultra alt your usernames are even the same colour.
i am not an ultra alt
equicontinuity always reminded me of like a snail with shrek head and the shrek snail's antennae going inside the head
he didn't capitalise a proper noun, he can't be ultra
See obsidian pillar
Inter-Universal Teichmuller? I hardly know her!
ryc you missed the party
with the aether
what is mochizuki up to nowadays
mochizuki is probably working on a joint paper with the indian RH guy
Wow
Ultravoicechat
"i hardly know her"? i hardly know her!
ultra is discussing minecraft theory
Ultra dishing the hot gossip
Minecraft theory? I hardly know her!
Lol
ultra is scheduled to give a talk right now
Woog 
Wow.
Were they saying anything
Or just dead silence
Ok
At least it's not just dead silence
i dont want to break the illusion of Ultra being an etheral being by hearing their voice. sorry
I'm at someone's house, I dont want to be disruptive
Maybe I should stop ignoring them, wonder how that would go
deep voice
It's a class about public speaking, I'm already a masterful orator.
Ryc learned from the best

In a few years, I will be able to do that as well.
so i hope so
In her prime even. She doesn't know English properly
She misspells basic words like "color"

Laughs in colour
Isn't this beautiful
no
Lol
I can tell you're already looking up analytic number theorists at UCSD
i'd rather kms
I think it's quite pleasant
its gross
Actually this isn't the worst the second term is 0 and if I'm not insane then the last two terms are O(e^{-2pi t})
Oh good.
I sorta said that vaguely and my advisor was sus of it
Hope t is positive!
i dont want to hear your voices because seeing or hearing mathematicians triggers me
Imagine expecting me to read the top.
Actually ryc you can sanity check me on this: so \widetilde{h} is a function of Paley-Wiener type, Fourier transform of a smooth function with compact support
So my logic is basically
The fraction is bounded
Ok
Well
I mean I am probably losing it in general but my advisor was sus so I'm paranoid lol
Oh wait I guess the problem is we're integrating from -infinity to infinity
Motherfucker
e^{-2\pi u}
Well okay no this still works but it'll be O(t^{-N}) actually
Really
You divide in the exponential, ok
And h is Paley-Wiener
So everything is fine
Now I get why he said it's not exponential error lol
Or wait no I'm still right
All I need is for the integrals to converge
And they do
So yeah modified version for ease of reference
First integral is constant times t (h is in L^1 because PW)
Now the second guy is 0 since h is even






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