Please start ignoring negligible gravitational effects right now.
#serious-discussion
sharp mulch
Ok so you don't ignore non-negligible gravitational effects
He's a youtuber
He used to be at Buzzfeed
But I think he left
He's kind of cute ~~ teehee
deep mango
sharp mulch
deep mango
It means it takes 150 hours to make
blazing pawn
i see
i thought it was one of those weird gimmick baking channels
and he was baking a cake for 150 hours
sharp mulch
deep mango
It means it has a rich chocolate mousse, brown butter espresso, infused honey bourbon, hot chocolate cake soak, and about 5 million bars of chocolate.
sharp mulch
deep mango
I dont see how it can possibly require that many bars of chocolate
sharp mulch
deep mango
sharp mulch
Have you considered โจ more chocolate โจ
deep mango
sick burrow
The virgin real life "every planet and moon pulls on every other planet and moon" vs the chad ksp "orbits of celestial bodies are locked, ships only experience gravity from one body at a time"
vagrant kestrel
outer wilds has real physics
sick burrow
Infinite delta V scout launcher infinite delta V scout launcher
toxic schooner
but i cant
sick burrow
Why not
toxic schooner
coz i cant buy it
sick burrow
Does outer wilds even require good specs?
summer nest
The mechanics in the game are fine tbh. The game also simulated tennis racquet effect well enough
sharp mulch
" I only take Ph.D. students if they come with their own funding."
What does this mean
torn willow
Ever heard of interns where you have to pay?
pale orchid
Ever heard of interns where you have to pay?
it's not really like this
astral marsh
I just got 0.1 ethereum according to a DM rn 
pale orchid
you usually pay uni tuition, but the lab pays you to do your research/be a TA/etc. with their funding from whatever source
but sometimes they allow you to do research with them without paying you
summer nest
" I only take Ph.D. students if they come with their own funding."
Who said this?
sharp mulch
Someone's website
pale orchid
it's better if they tell you up front though
rather than being 1 year into the phd and the prof just says on the way out "oh btw we're out of funds, find yourself a new project or get out of here"
summer nest
Is PhD life usually like that?
sharp mulch
In the US you get funded via teaching
But some professors have additional funding so you don't need to teach
You can also get external fellowships
Which is what it sounds like this professor wants
He wants you not to teach and also doesn't want to fund you
bronze pelican
I only take Ph.D. students if they come with their own funding.
fervent flame
in soviet russia, you fund your prof
neat lintel
need someone to play valorant
summer nest
need someone to play valorant
Just practice in training room 
velvet dagger
Wait there's a prof that wants students to come with funding wtf
rancid meadow
isn't that what grants are?
just sounds like the prof wanting a student to confirm a grant before they accept them?
seems reasonable
crystal stone
seems reasonable
In reality it's not that unreasonable if the prof is unable to secure funding for their student, and neither is the department
velvet dagger
It's just such a weird phenomenon at any reasonable university in America lol
Since there's teaching funding. And if you want students to not teach but you don't wanna fund them... I mean idk what to even say lmfao
inb4 he just doesn't want students and that's his strat
crystal stone
It's just such a weird phenomenon at any reasonable university in America lol
Yeah, it is weird from a US perspective
Since it's so often the case departments fund students
velvet dagger
Also I'm pretty sure what happens in Europe anyway is that you are admitted precisely when there is funding available
Like a prof has funding for n students so there are n open slots for people who are interested to work with him
surreal sapphire
sometimes
my uni profs get funding for 3 years
and if you arent done by then, they have to secure it elsewhere
like, you get 3 years teaching contract and then you can (usually) renew
if you don't get other funding
neat lintel
this somehow can lead to hostility
sharp mulch
ryc I'm taking general circulation models in the fall
Should I commit to geophysical fluids
narrow rock
atomic hornet
Someone tell mniip but cuter to unblock me
sharp mulch
atomic hornet
For calling someone w a picture of a monkey as their pfp a monke
sharp mulch
sharp mulch
What
atomic hornet
Reason: bussy saka
narrow rock
rancid meadow
narrow rock
I dont even remember saying anything lmao
sharp mulch
narrow rock
narrow rock
union_soviet is good
narrow rock
jon did you get banned
narrow rock
probably
nimble shuttle
I think I jsut left
mild nebula
Cring
narrow rock
they have an "advanced debate" channel lmao
narrow rock
lol
sharp mulch
mild nebula
Where's Master Debate?
nimble shuttle
lol kaynex
narrow rock
jon
mild nebula
Aww darn
nimble shuttle
lmfao
mild nebula
Brb going to make that joke
narrow rock
they probably banned all of us
everyone who joined and left
ultra where did you get :chickenwalk: from
sharp mulch
nimble shuttle
now I see you
dense belfry
@dull salmon is the absentminded professor trope adhd in disguise?
Yeah that's true
Diagnoses are dangerous
nimble shuttle
ultra you simply must answer my query in intellectualist
sick burrow
Wait what is this intellectualist server
And where can I get an invite so I can laugh at them
I searched messages in this server for an invite and found this
sick burrow
Ultra can I have an invite to intellectualist
Then it would be in my search history though
limber thunder
imagine keeping your search history
sick burrow
I never want that search to touch my search history even if I delete it later
cinder zephyr
what is that server
atomic hornet
imagine keeping your search history
im imagining now what to do i do
spring crypt
Ok so I read the abstract on both papers my prof sent me now I want to skim them. So far I'm 4 sentences into the intro of one of them and I'm already kinda lost lmao
fair point lol
by the way my very limited feel to far for them is
Paper #1: one of the authors is one of the 2 profs that would co-advise me (the plan is to have 2 advisers) and a huge part of it is really the field of the other adviser so I feel I'll be learning from the best
Paper #2: The topic just seems cooler at a first glance lmao
cold needle
can u buy me a pizza
๐ช โจ ๐งโ๐ซ
spring crypt
Original plan was to go all out on algebra, particularly structures with a lot of... well structure. I was looking at quantum groups. Then my prof told me he was going to be in China next year and that it'd be good to have another adviser because I'm me and I'd disperse a lot especially with very loose guidance but none of the other 2 profs of my dept who are very into Hopf algebras were available but then I remembered this year I'm taking a manifolds course and loving every single bit of it so I might actually love geometry. "Well why can't we have both" and I talked to my algebra prof to see what he thought of the best crossover in the dept history
spring crypt
he said "ok have anyone in mind?" and I said "yeah, Gothen" (Peter B. Gothen from the first paper) and he talked to him and they agreed there are a few topics they'd both be interested in involving both geometry and heavy duty algebra
so here I am
deep mango
i had no idea what cobordisms had to do with quantum field theory the whole time
oh well
spring crypt
well it had to arise somewhere right lol
but yeah one of those things that is probably very far removed
deep mango
from what i understood from the talk it was definitely some kind of far-removed physics...
then again, that wasn't much
but at the end he was talking about broad physicsy ideas
vivid halo
my pronouns are he/him but whenever I'm writing a math paper or any other technical writing they become we/our all of a sudden
cold needle
yes!
vivid halo
"we will show that" -me, the only author and reader
deep mango
do you typically say "He will show that" when you're the one writing?
deep mango
no, you say "I will show that"
spring crypt
my pronouns are he/him but whenever I'm writing a math paper or any other techni...
I'm already like that in homework lmao
cold needle
im gonna write a paper with she/her pronouns the whole time
neat lintel
light needle
refer to myself in third person in paper
cold needle
but i am pushing the boundaries of academic writing!!!!
sharp mulch
My cat will show that
deep mango
I will write papers with they/them pronouns, but will intend for them to be the plural form.
cold needle
i mean i've seen
like
"you can see"
or somtehing
but nothing that directive
scary
deep mango
but they say stuff like "first, show that this is true. Then, verify this. etc."
vivid halo
yea
deep mango
as though they're commanding you to do it, but they include the proofs themselves
light needle
or they say "trivial" which means you have to show it
vivid halo
idk I feel very strongly about not using "I" in papers
cold needle
can we get a paper where we have Somebody
vivid halo
although there are some places where this is maybe okay?
cold needle
"Somebody can observe the following"
deep mango
i have read a few papers with "I" and they're always refreshing
vivid halo
for acknowledgments I've seen it split between "I would like to thank" and "the author would like to thank"
spring crypt
writing a paper entirely in the future perfect tense
"We will have shown that in fact the group will have been trivial"
deep mango
writing the whole paper in the passive....
vivid halo
I mean you kinda have to do the latter if there's more than one author
paper with two authors that uses "I"
deep mango
writing a paper entirely in the future perfect tense
"We will have shown that in...
this honestly makes sense. you usually say what you're going to do before you prove it, right?
spring crypt
ok but in the end of a proof
vagrant kestrel
refer to yourself as [1]
deep mango
Finally, we will have taken epsilon to 0 to conclude the theorem.
spring crypt
"therefore the conclusion we will be seeking will have been proven"
this is making my head hurt lmao
vivid halo
there is a funny bit at the beginning of the Fargues-Scholze paper where they kinda poke at each other in third person
"Scholze could not figure this out until Fargues had the following insight"
vagrant kestrel
we could not figure this out until we had the following insight
deep mango
You could not figure this out until I had the following insight.
spring crypt
we sill can't figure this out but we hope to fool you
deep mango
Write papers like they're letters to some specific person.
spring crypt
like in the golden age
velvet dagger
That's so funny
spring crypt
as if we were 18th century mathematicians
vagrant kestrel
writing WHAT? in a paper is great
deep mango
Or, write papers as though you're the audience. "We gawked in awe as the brilliant mathematician laid pen to paper, and scrawled down the following wonderful theorem..."
vagrant kestrel
Let me tell you a story about the author...
spring crypt
honestly I try to not go overboard with it but I like being a bit cheeky with homework and shit especially if I know the prof will find it funny
vivid halo
yea I have a pretty boring style of writing, it's hard to pull of "clever" writing like this
vagrant kestrel
I had fun writing directly to the grader
spring crypt
leaden torrent
i once wrote "what the fuck" in latex on a take home exam when my answer was obviously way too general
i think it was like, i proved all compact spaces are normal
like i didnt use the hausdorff condition
at all
leaden torrent
no lmao
neat lintel
good
leaden torrent
prof was a nice guy
he was actually taught alg top by munkres himself\
and frequently complained about how bad a lecturer munkres was
spring crypt
Yeah I also scribbled "what the fuck" on my notebook when I was studying something and then for got about it when I met my prof to talk about what I had been doing
neat lintel
only the first chapter of the alg top section
spring crypt
I think he noticed but he didn't comment, sadly lmao
leaden torrent
exactly
leaden torrent
the rest is like the first chapter
neat lintel
to be fair i didn't read it as much as i just absorbed the prof's amazing lectures
leaden torrent
i think youll agree the first chapter feels a lot harder to follow than the rest of munkres
and the exercises were worse
the rest of the section is like that
its not like, terrible
but its certainly not the best source for a full alg top course
but its all munkres used
neat lintel
sounds like his analysis on manifolds book lmao
the proof of commutativity of second partials in that book is like
2 pages??????
leaden torrent
did you get in trouble
well let me clarify
i DID get in trouble, as in lose marks, for accidentally asserting all compact spaces are normal
in my proof that a particular space was normal that only used compactness
believe it or not, proving blatantly false things is usually not a good exam stategy
well actually
if you come in with a contradiction in ZFC prepared beforehand
and whip it out to trivialize the exam by explosion
you deserve 100%
neat lintel
vagrant kestrel
hmmm have I ever gotten full marks for a wrong proof
leaden torrent
i definitely have lmao
vagrant kestrel
there are times where you do a question the completely wrong way and it takes 5 times as long to do
spring crypt
I have on 2 circumstances. On one the prof didn't notice the mistake and on another occasion the prof was just super chill and it was just a small error that didn't even ruin the proof
leaden torrent
well yea if the idea is fine
vagrant kestrel
and I'm convinced I get points for effort
leaden torrent
not docking marks is valid
spring crypt
not docking marks is valid
in fact
leaden torrent
but ive definitely had the grader just miss my mistake lmao
spring crypt
here the prof gave me full marks still lmao
velvet dagger
Whaddup
cold needle
hi
surreal sapphire
i have gotten 0 marks on a totally valid proof once 
velvet dagger
Why?
deep mango
when i'm grading and i notice i almost missed a mistake on some homework like 4 homeworks later...
vagrant kestrel
nice benny
deep mango
i always feel so bad going back and correcting my grading lol
surreal sapphire
or rather, i dont think the grader engaged at all
vagrant kestrel
are graders kept up at night knowing they might've given too many points
surreal sapphire
since i went a way different route than intended
velvet dagger
What'd the prof do?
surreal sapphire
he gave me my marks
deep mango
to be fair loch
surreal sapphire
and talked with the grader i guess
velvet dagger
Dope
deep mango
sometimes i wanted to just skip everything some kid wrote
surreal sapphire
in fact i had generalized the result next week
and was forced to present in class
ye, we had that too
velvet dagger
I get the desire to do so but I feel like if you're gonna ignore someone's solution you gotta default to full points rather than none lmao
surreal sapphire
there was this incident of some grader just marking everything correct
without reading
leaden torrent
based
vagrant kestrel
how else are you gonna get 5/5 on the end-of-class survey
deep mango
I get the desire to do so but I feel like if you're gonna ignore someone's solut...
if their solution is unreadable, it's on them
deep mango
i've written unreadable solutions before and i should have gotten marked off for them
surreal sapphire
ye, if i cant read it, its 0
deep mango
but like
vagrant kestrel
D:
velvet dagger
Loch didn't seem to indicate that it was a readability problem so much as a different solution than intended
deep mango
i don't just mean if i can't read the handwriting or whatever
deep mango
i mean if it's bumfuck complicated and of questionable validity when the proof is two lines otherwise
deep mango
if i understand the proof either way i'm going to give it full marks
surreal sapphire
by writing i mean more style than readability
velvet dagger
Eh I'd at least try to read it in that case
deep mango
if i don't understand it, i'm going to mark them off and tell them to submit a regrade request if they can explain what they meant by the parts that confused me
i'm very nice about stuff like that
probably too nice
surreal sapphire
there is currently this idea floating around by my 'boss' to stop grading homework in the traditional way
and instead have them defend it
velvet dagger
If I do read it and then I'm like uh this doesn't make sense to me sure, and obv if the handwriting isn't decipherable then there's nothing I can do
deep mango
that sounds like a lot of added work
vagrant kestrel
that's a cute anti-chegg way
velvet dagger
But if it looks complicated but I haven't yet read it I just curse under my breath and go for it
surreal sapphire
and have them generally explain their thought process
light needle
tbh unlatexed solution immediate 0 
surreal sapphire
its less work bcs students stop doing work to evade the embarrassment
velvet dagger
I've seen profs who required tex
vagrant kestrel
at the very least latex should give 20 bonus points
velvet dagger
Maybe they give 2-3 psets of breathing room to learn it
deep mango
the best thing to do with these things is clearly to allow students to resubmit corrections, but that doubles the workload
surreal sapphire
with corona its actually pretty bad
i get generally unreadable solutions due to bad pictures
we should at least require real scans
velvet dagger
Lol so
vagrant kestrel
lmao phone pictures are awful
surreal sapphire
also i have to say that hw points here dont really matter
deep mango
learn to fucking scan your handwriting then, if people didn't submit blurry ass phone pics of their coffee stained diary then this wouldn't be needed
velvet dagger
That's how I learned that it turns out people's technological skill isn't monotonically increasing
deep mango
the grad classes at berk almost always required tex
deep mango
i know but i decided to twist what you said to fit the post i wanted to write
light needle
tru latexing feels nice
velvet dagger
I remember when I was a kid the stereotype was the clueless teacher
And the students are like
Here's how you open the start menu
Close this by pressing x
etc
Now I'm the teacher
deep mango
my handwriting on a tablet was so much better, that i stopped texing last fall for my undergrad classes and started submitting pdfs from onenote
velvet dagger
And my students are fucking clueless lmfao
vagrant kestrel
profs know technology 
surreal sapphire
i feel like most students now use primarily phones, so their computer skills are worse
velvet dagger
I mean not even that tho
sharp mulch
velvet dagger
Like in my probability class I took an exam and had to upload a scan of my work within 15 minutes to Canvas
And I could just do it
deep mango
wow
deep mango
you didn't like...
surreal sapphire
god-tier prof
deep mango
do all that...
velvet dagger
Then I TA Calc 2 and we require students to upload pdfs of their work
deep mango
before the exam...?
velvet dagger
I expected I could figure it out on the spot
deep mango
velvet dagger
And I did, we had 15 minutes on top of the 2 hours to upload
I did it in less than like, 5 minutes
deep mango
when i had to do that stuff i always did a test run
velvet dagger
The students had a practice exam to learn the tech
deep mango
and it always took me like 2 seconds when it actually came to it
deep mango
nice
velvet dagger
And not sure how to convert jpeg to pdf or smth
velvet dagger
And I'm like come on guys
deep mango
and some people screw up the first time
light needle
sigh freshmen
deep mango
and a completely different set of people screw up the second time
vagrant kestrel
you can't go from clueless to savvy in a single semester
deep mango
i'm sure that's what happened
rancid meadow
students are the worst.
atomic hornet
i hate them
deep mango
they're probably always right
atomic hornet
including myself
rancid meadow
whats everyones favourite model of noneuclidean geometry
vagrant kestrel
why don't universities follow "the customer is always right"?
deep mango
only some students are the worst, the students who care about the dumb math they're learning
vagrant kestrel
wait grade inflation
deep mango
students who take an industrious mindset to education, realizing it exists as a vehicle toward a career
rancid meadow
i like hyperbolic geometry personally
deep mango
those are the students with whom it's worthwhile to interact
i personally enjoy spherical geometry.
that's a lie. is there anyone who unironically prefers something over hyperbolic geometry?
rancid meadow
spheres are stupid
atomic hornet
plane geometry
velvet dagger
Imagine having non-chaotic geodesic flow
atomic hornet
rancid meadow
are there other models for euclidean geometry
rancid meadow
guh
true
ultra told me to talk about euclidean geometry and then i realized i barely know anything abt euclidean geometry
vagrant kestrel
you can get a math major without taking any geometry 
rancid meadow
I think you actually can here
neat lintel
gauss-bonnet
rancid meadow
vagrant kestrel
here are my favorites
rancid meadow
Your idea for me talking about euclidean geometry at the start was to actually talk about different models of non-euclidean geometry like hyperbolic, elliptic, etc, right?
rancid meadow
ah
I'm questioning it now, I'm worried it might get too technical or something
you're right
nimble shuttle
deep mango
i'm aware
vagrant kestrel
you're not the intended audience
deep mango
it still sounds like it could be a bit much
rancid meadow
Well, not technical, but it would go Geometry and talking about simple terms -> History -> Back to math
I think the flow would be weird.
leaden torrent
jon has found slims subterfuge
rancid meadow
there is a way to do it for sure
deep mango
i think it could be done right
rancid meadow
I'm not sure if I could do it right
deep mango
i know i couldn't do it right
sharp mulch
Slime doxed?
rancid meadow
why did I have to put "What is logic?" in my abstract 
deep mango
Why I'm here: To engage in rational, intellectual, emotion-free discourse and expand my mind.
rancid meadow
i have to give something resembling an answer I suppose
god I should just give that Scanlon quote and tell them to work it out
you're right, but I feel the need to give a roughly satisfying answer at the start
I think I do need to give an actual example though
I was thinking about like, how would I explain calculus or something in the way I want it and it just seems way easier to do it via example
nimble shuttle
full-time Thinker
nimble shuttle
i like how he's much more mature and rational than other people his age while also a 19yo high schooler
owning the libs
velvet dagger
I don't quite know what's the gcd of this server
Like presumably that screenshot isn't from here
cold needle
it's not
leaden torrent
recommend them https://vndb.org/v9093
velvet dagger
Is it a conservative server? Aviation?
The Intellectualist... interesting lmfao
DM me a link
Was he particularly smart?
Idk much about JFK
light needle
ah yes my fav conservative president, jfk
leaden torrent
Name: Namington.
Age: At least 13 as per Discord Terms of Service.
Sex: Undisclosed.
Areas of Interest: 
Profession: Daniel Quillen simp
Howd you find us: Astral divination
Why am I here: Just to suffer?
jfk pushed for the civil rights movement though
velvet dagger
Their rules seem reasonable
I get the point of establishing definitions from one source so people aren't just arguing over definitions but somehow the way that rule is presented amuses me
sharp mulch
Philosophy . the doctrine
nimble shuttle
lol
sharp mulch
I feel like
I know people
Who would unironically participate in this server
Unfortunately
light needle
pls send link i need to see this
sharp mulch
ryc I'm not talking about you
deep mango
how dare you ange.
sharp mulch
???
neat lintel
how dare you ange.
sharp mulch
Angetenar is a known troll
leaden torrent
most respectable screenshot ive seen
sharp mulch
rancid meadow
sharp mulch
plato bot
atomic hornet
my iq is like huge
nimble shuttle
sharp mulch
atomic hornet
its long
leaden torrent
can you ask them to help me with my mathematics
vagrant kestrel
high iq microsoft windows expert
leaden torrent
i struggle to believe this dude only has 1/100 neuroticism
neat lintel
I have 100
vagrant kestrel
is the joke that this is what a 100 conscientiousness* person would say
neat lintel
conscientious?
leaden torrent
i think psychologists actually use it (unlike MBTI) but
if someone self reports
99% chance they didnt get a psychologist to do it lmao
deep mango
sonic ether
broken scaffold
psychology is barely a science
sharp mulch
crystal stone
psychology is barely a science
Define science
broken scaffold
based enough
narrow rock
done with finals
devout nacelle
sharp mulch
Lol quarter system
narrow rock
T-2hrs to existential crisis
sharp mulch
narrow rock
ange_shock
willow pulsar
how did you guys get good at math
torn willow
Practice
limpid venture
We didn't
torn willow
And I don't mean "Do the same question a million times" when I say practice
willow pulsar
And I don't mean "Do the same question a million times" when I say practice
yeah i get it
nice i m gonna go practice now bye
chilly notch
Is any statistician online?
mortal oasis
sick burrow
people keep talking about the intellectualist server but no one ever links it 
static loom
sounds cringe, never heard of it tho
sick burrow
sounds cringe
yeah that's the whole point
I want to laugh at them but I have no link
static loom
goin outta your way to laugh at cringe is cringe
sick burrow
ok that's actually a fair point
static loom
agreeing with me is cringe
sick burrow
perhaps the cringe was me all along
static loom
sick burrow
see all I need to do now is laugh at myself
neat lintel
yea yea yea
fervent flame
suisei cracked tf
woeful locust
top ten anime betrayal of all time lmfao
leaden torrent
sometimes i forget that whitney did stuff other than graph theory (and whitney embedding)
like hes crazy prolific but i feel most remembered for his brief graph theory stint
which is weird
given his vast accomplishments
thorn brook
ostkaka is back
errant kiln
kaka, great
limber thunder
oh and it's sorta recent too, 2013
mortal oasis
does anyone find that graph misleading with the non-zeroed out y axis
I thought it just looked a bit better there with the error values but I dont want it to come off as misleading
sharp mulch
Yes axes should always start at 0
mortal oasis
ok cool thanks ill zero out
iron osprey
quick i need someone to teach me japanese
sharp mulch
iron osprey
sumimasen
neat lintel
quick i need someone to teach me japanese
dame da ne
dame yo dame na no yo
sugite sugi sugite
dore da ke
iron osprey
you say this as if i am not going to retaliate
neat lintel
you say this as if i am not going to retaliate
with what?
iron osprey
anger
neat lintel
im already a masochist smh
iron osprey
boobas
narrow rock
sussy baka
limber thunder
sharp mulch
grim token
crringe
atomic hornet
Bussy saka
astral marsh
@fervent flame she is, she lasted several minutes against the 2nd best tetris player in the world
also
This is Gintoki's VA
What a timeline
naive stirrup
ashen apex
naive stirrup
neat lintel
toxic schooner
silver glacier
toxic schooner
broken scaffold
thorn brook
errant kiln
sharp mulch
errant kiln
Opera GX just got an update, now spotify is built in
vagrant kestrel
is opera that browser you use on a DS?
neat lintel
is opera that browser you use on a DS?
no, that'd be netsurf
pretty bars are a waste of space
errant kiln
pretty bars are a waste of space
nooo, pretty bars are pretty and useful
neat lintel
these are enough bars for everything
time to compile chromium >:) (send help)
gentoo?
yes
i thought about trying it but having to recompile everything every update sounds like hell
neat lintel
i thought about trying it but having to recompile everything every update sounds...
nah, it's fairly ok if you have 2 computers (or a VM with ~100GB+ of space and a fuckton of ram) (for chromium)
which i don't lol
but the big advantage of gentoo is removing bloat
you can say "i don't need docs" "fuck off X" "GTK? no way!" etc which is fairly useful because you can pretty easily make a hyper-specialised system
Besides, you don't recompile everything every update, you just recompile a few packages (the only packages that are fucking slow to build are glibc, glib, gcc, binutils)
yea ik that's what i meant
im using arch currently
i've tried arch and it was just meh, like I get that getting the newest packages is cool but I can switch to debian experimental/sid if i want to
yea i don't really mind newest packages too much usually
grim pumice
i like arch
neat lintel
good for you then
thought of trying gentoo or artix cuz idk systemd seems kinda unnecessary
whatever you do, do not use stage 1/2 for gentoo
errant kiln
Let me just be a moron and write, "Memes go in chill".
cold needle
you're welcome
ancient flame
if you divide $\pdv{f}{x}$ by $\pdv{f}{y}$ you get $\pdv{y}{x}$, is there any intuition for this? a small change in one input in relation to a change in another input?
fathom swallowBOT
gmod
torn willow
You don't
toxic schooner
if you divide $\pdv{f}{x}$ by $\pdv{f}{y}$ you get $\pdv{y}{x}$, is there any in...
not afaik, no
sleek wing
chain rule moment
there is intuition but I had this exact convo for like an hour a couple of days back
toxic schooner
there is intuition but I had this exact convo for like an hour a couple of days ...
Oo
thorn brook
So since you were talking about derivative things, can you really think of d/dx as a fraction? How is this defined mathematically?
sleek wing
No itโs not a fraction
thorn brook
so what is it? Just a operator in a function space?
thorn brook
oh okay lmao
but I guess that it sometimes is easier to think about this as a fraction
when doing the product rule or whatever it's called
sleek wing
Itโs way easier to think of it as a fraction in the chain rule and summation
deep mango
it acts by taking a limit of fractions
fathom swallowBOT
Wew Lads Tbh
thorn brook
no, that's Illuminati
sleek wing
No illuminati is the upside down funny triangle aka the laplacian
thorn brook
wow, wew lads tbh if your name were yellow like RYC's then it would match your pfp perfectly
get this manz a yellow name
neat lintel
sacred geyser
if the laplacian is upside down funny triangle, then nabla^(-1) = laplacian?
sleek wing
So true...
neat lintel
yes and also laplacian = b^2 - 4ac
sleek wing
Something something functions form a ring something differentiation acts on the ring something something field of fractions something laplacian = nabla^-1
fathom swallowBOT
Chemfinal
deep mango
I was just typing this lol
sleek wing
Discriminate = laplacian for all polynomials because theyโre both triangles
deep mango
Nabla is a third root of unity
sacred geyser
sleek wing
C3 moment
sacred geyser
wait
sleek wing
Waiting
sacred geyser
what about the uhhhh square operator, d'Alembertian i think?
thorn brook
I'm waiting
sleek wing
Google โZ as a G-module under exponentiation in a group Gโ for more info
thorn brook
$\Delta \nabla$
sleek wing
Ring
fathom swallowBOT
Tokidoki
sleek wing
Not group
thorn brook
that looks like a nice logo if they were a bit closer to each other
neat lintel
no
sleek wing
Yes
neat lintel
lol?
sacred geyser
you just glue them together and its homeomorphic to the square
sleek wing
Lol.
neat lintel
ok blocked idc
sacred geyser
ez
sleek wing
Itโs already homeonorphic to the square
errant kiln
norphic
sleek wing
Homonorphism
sacred geyser
mononorphisn
sleek wing
nononoephism
errant kiln
nomeomorphism
thorn brook
homo morphism
errant kiln
romeomorphism
sleek wing
Look imma come clean, I have no idea what the difference between an outer automorphism and an inner automorphism is
I know the definitions for both but I have no idea why theyโre different
sick burrow
sleek wing
Itโs an automorphism that isnโt inner :troll:
errant kiln
what's an automorphism? 0.0
sacred geyser
automorphisms roll out
sleek wing
An inner automorphism is one that preserves conjugation I think
thorn brook
oh yeah now I see
sick burrow
an inner automorphism is just conjugation according to wolfram
sleek wing
Very sus...
thorn brook
amogus
sleek wing
Amongomorphism
thorn brook
wolfram imposter confirmed
sacred geyser
damn i was typing that
thorn brook
so it is kinda lonely since it doesn't have friends
it just has itself as a friend
or smth idk lol
sleek wing
Sure.....
errant kiln
toki, how's munkres going? xD
I will ask this every day from now on 0.0
thorn brook
Definition. A automorphism is a lonely isomorphism
errant kiln
*Definition*. A automorphism is a lonely isomorphism
Yes.
sleek wing
Actually sounds like category theory
thorn brook
Well I have done some exercises and that's it lol
I will start reading some stuff later
sleek wing
Anyway when are we getting a fluid dynamics channel
thorn brook
when you get banned
errant kiln
I started reading Hatcher and was humiliated by the first chapter :/
sleek wing
when you get banned
A price Iโm willing to pay
errant kiln
Definition of Homotopy. (Actually fundamental group)
thorn brook
So what is the definition?
sleek wing
Horrifying
sacred geyser
there's no fluid dynamics class for our physics dept and it makes me sad
sleek wing
:((((
modest rune
wait wait, you have Hatcher?
hatcher is freely and legally available online
sacred geyser
ye on his website
sleek wing
Link...
modest rune
google at.pdf lol
sick burrow
hatcher is freely and legally available online
"freely" and "legally"
thorn brook
but I like to have a physical copy
sacred geyser
literally freely and legally
sick burrow
yes I am aware
thorn brook
it just feels a lot better to have an actual book to read for some reason
errant kiln
it just feels a lot better to have an actual book to read for some reason
Hatcher is cheap on amazon anyway
modest rune
it just feels a lot better to have an actual book to read for some reason
i agree
errant kiln
but I think it's only paperbacks
sacred geyser
also mayer vietoris sequences make brain hurty
modest rune
mayer vietoris is just SvK but better
thorn brook
I actually prefer paperbacks I think. They are squishy
errant kiln
So what is the definition?
basically two functions are homotopic if they can be continuously transformed into the other, at least that's what I think it is xD
modest rune
mayer vietoris is just SvK but better
this sounds dismissive what im getting at is that mayer vietoris should have the same intuition basically
thorn brook
hmm what does it mean for a function to be transformed to another?
sleek wing
You apply another function to it
modest rune
basically two functions are homotopic if they can be continuously transformed in...
this is the right intuition
modest rune
You apply another function to it
no not here
be careful about trying to answer questions if you dont know whats going on @sleek wing it only worsens confusion
sleek wing
Soz boss!
errant kiln
hmm what does it mean for a function to be transformed to another?
you imagine functions as strings, and if you can put the strings on top of each other in a "smooth" motion, you call them homotopic xD
and apparently that works for all continuous functions.
thorn brook
okay that's a really good explanation actually
so it's like homeomorphism but with functions?
errant kiln
and I also learnt that homotopy is just bad homeomorphism
modest rune
okay so not quite
sacred geyser
this sounds dismissive what im getting at is that mayer vietoris should have the...
no i mean based on what im reading that sounds about right
thorn brook
amogus
neat lintel
amogus potion
modest rune
homotopy equivalence is an equivalence relation among spaces
and its much weaker that homeomorphic
neat lintel
what did homeomorphic say to homotopy
thorn brook
oh okay. From the definition that verydistrubedperson mentioned it feels like homotopy should be stronger than homeomorphism
deep mango
finite topological spaces 
errant kiln
oh okay. From the definition that verydistrubedperson mentioned it feels like ho...
wut, why
modest rune
a function f:X->Y is a homotopy equivalence if there is a function g:X->Y such that fg and gf can be continuously transformed to the identity maps
a homeomorphism requires no transformstion so its much stronger
sleek wing
finite topological spaces <:hypersully:796617995522277376>
{{}} moment
modest rune
i.e. a homemorphism has a map g such that fg and gf are identity without transformation
thorn brook
oh yeah now I see
neat lintel
yea ill come back to this conversation in 6 years when i finish my math major 
thorn brook
neat lintel
YO
errant kiln
thorn brook
neat lintel
u guys still have that?
modest rune
yea ill come back to this conversation in 6 years when i finish my math major <:...
about halfway through you should be able to understand most of this
neat lintel
about halfway through you should be able to understand most of this
lmao perhaps although i think i will go into engineering
will i be able to understand then??
modest rune
then probably never
neat lintel
sadness
thorn brook
modest rune
unless you go out of your way to learn it
sleek wing
lmao perhaps although i think i will go into engineering
why
thorn brook
because pi=3
sick burrow
isn't homotopy equivalence also a thing between spaces
sleek wing
Re(pi) = p
modest rune
i dont want to sound like im dunking on engineering
sick burrow
or is that what you said
modest rune
im not
sick burrow
or am I thinking of homotopy class
modest rune
i said that yes
neat lintel
because science is fun too
modest rune
homotopy class can be either
a homotopy equivalence f:X->Y induces an equivalence relation among spaces
neat lintel
i dont want to sound like im dunking on engineering
wdym
neat lintel
yea ik
modest rune
sometimes ppl here shit on egineers
neat lintel
this sounds like pure math
modest rune
engineers
neat lintel
homotopy and the other one lmao
neat lintel
sometimes ppl here shit on egineers
lmao
sleek wing
who would do such a thing ;^)
sacred geyser
yeah studying physics is a good reminder of where my intuition is strong, which is math not physics
neat lintel
thorn brook
yooo ;^) is your pfp wew lads tbh
thorn brook
lmao :swag:
neat lintel
sacred geyser
learning stuff from engineering and physics is often pretty hard for me im not very good with like physical intuition
neat lintel
yea thats perfectly fine its not for everyone
sleek wing
same
sleek wing
like when you just have to "know" that you set pressure to be 0 at the centre of a radial flow without being told, PROFFESOR
thorn brook
blocked
sleek wing
same I'm awful at maths
neat lintel
major in arts
bronze pelican
@sleek wing nice pfp
neat lintel
sleek wing
<@233993116418441216> nice pfp
thanks boss
thorn brook
<@233993116418441216> nice pfp
that's not wew lads tbh
sleek wing
2 abelian points to anyone who knows where it's from
thorn brook
he's a copy cat
sleek wing
actually I'll up it to 3
thorn brook
he just stole his name
sleek wing
he just stole his name
I can prove it's me
neat lintel
smh these copy cats bro
thorn brook
the real wew lads tbh has ;^) as pfp
sleek wing
enlarge it... the ;^) is still there...
errant kiln
2 abelian points to anyone who knows where it's from
from some weird asian comic, right?
sleek wing
from some weird asian comic, right?
1 abelian point...
neat lintel
manga
thorn brook
omg wew lads tbh became evil
neat lintel
sleek wing
"became"
thorn brook
gangster moment
sleek wing
I use "abelian ring" without batting an eye I'm clearly chaotic evil
neat lintel
he was always evil i guess
sleek wing
shaking my head...
sacred geyser
abelian ring
bronze pelican
Communist group
errant kiln
1 abelian point...
Due to your description, I will guess it's madeline from celeste.
sleek wing
anyway how many strawbs you got
sleek wing
fair
sleek wing
no dice, why what's happening in it
errant kiln
Life is Strange 3 was shown.
and some weird marvel games
but that's about it
and 10*10^10^10 final fantasy trailers were shown.
sleek wing
heat death of the universe moment
errant kiln
Honestly, Life is Strange 3 sounds so weird and boring to me. Her special ability is empathy. Amazing.
bronze pelican
heat death of the universe moment
Agreed
bronze pelican
Honestly, Life is Strange 3 sounds so weird and boring to me. Her special abilit...
Isnt that the game about the siblings?
errant kiln
that was life is strange 2
bronze pelican
I see
errant kiln
the brother was able to use the force,so one can see how lame the new protagonist's ability is.