serious-discussion

[sharp mulch]

🍣

[reef carbon]

NOW YOURE POINTING THATGUN AT ME

whyd you have a gun if you were innocent manan

[modest rune]

i dream of a day when its socially acceptable to work out in my flipflops

[devout nacelle]

I searched for sus too and this was the result

[torn willow]

America moment

[reef carbon]

no u

[pale orchid]

work out where?

[modest rune]

gym

[pale orchid]

at home where no one has to suffer the sight of you in flip flops, ok

at the gym? that's just dumb

[modest rune]

edd

dont you dare

[pale orchid]

drop one of them dumbbells on your foot

[modest rune]

hate on flip flops

[pale orchid]

i don't hate on them, i wear them myself

[devout nacelle]

Normalise flip flops everywhere lmao

[modest rune]

bro these flynit nikes arent stopping a dumbbell for shit

[pale orchid]

but for running and weightlifting and stuff

normalise flip flops in bed

[modest rune]

if i drop a 30lb weight on my foot who gives a fuck what shoe i have on

lol

[pale orchid]

there are boots precisely for that

but yeah, not any sneakers you'd wear to the gym

[reef carbon]

maxj i am reporting you for dissing on fantasque sans mono

[pale orchid]

maxj running in flip flops arc

[modest rune]

i run in flip flops

[pale orchid]

smh

be careful not to fall

[modest rune]

not like distance run but like oh shit im late run

i only wear flipflops outside of exercise

[pale orchid]

sandals with socks

[devout nacelle]

Curseddddddd

[pale orchid]

german style

ann ended up defending her thesis, handwriting, and font choices in one day. i'd just go sleep already while i'm ahead

[reef carbon]

gonna play some hyperrogue first

[neat lintel]

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/g5057/handwriting-analysis/

Hi everybody this is YOUR daily dose of bs

[sharp mulch]

[reef carbon]

if you write x as ɔc i am personally coming for you

[sleek wing]

I'll see you soon then

[sharp mulch]

[pale orchid]

oof that's pretty bad

on the other hand, everyone knows k = l + slanted h

[sharp mulch]

[broken scaffold]

i hope your hand stops writing

[pale orchid]

no u

[vagrant kestrel]

writing nm in cursive

[vast surge]

"Large letters mean that you're an attention seeker, and small letters mean you're not"
No, large letters mean that I can't read small letters, at least not as quickly as I can read larger letters.

[rancid meadow]

This is literally a horoscope for handwriting

[vast surge]

My horoscope is actually very reliable. It is, without fail, inaccurate. I would have expected it to get something right about me just due to chance at some point.

100% failure rate

[distant karma]

large letters mean that my handwriting is trash and i cant write anything remotely legible if i dont write big

[devout nacelle]

My n and x are often indistinguishable.

[reef carbon]

bad

[vast surge]

Wait how else am I meant to distinguish between $x$ and $\times$?

[fathom swallow]

Bannanachair Monarch

[vast surge]

My handwriting is so bad that it's the only way I know

[reef carbon]

positioning on the line

spacing

[vast surge]

Yeah that's all way too inconsistent

[devout nacelle]

But yeah, I stopped writing x with crossing over long ago

[vast surge]

I sometimes write $\times$ so messily that it looks like a y

[fathom swallow]

Bannanachair Monarch

[vast surge]

And sometimes it looks like a backwards y

I mean that happens when I handwrite things; I generally just LaTeX everything. My class notes are LaTeXed.

[sleek wing]

imagine writing on the lines

[sacred geyser]

it usually takes less time for me to write my hw in latex because i erase and rewrite letters constantly when writing it out

ill write delta like 7 times before thinking "mmm i think its good now?"

[neat lintel]

"Big letters means you're an attention seeker. A lack of gap in making your c means you dont want to let anybody in" Now make a big fat c with lack of gap, and shout OBJECTION

[errant bloom]

Hello Everyone!

[vast surge]

Yeah, I literally don't know how to write some letters like $\zeta$ and $\xi$

[fathom swallow]

Bannanachair Monarch

[errant bloom]

Is it hard to learn mathematical induction and other methods in like a day?

[devout nacelle]

[vast surge]

Yes.

It's hard to learn any mathematics in a day.

[neat lintel]

R is just a P with a pp

[sacred geyser]

you could feasibly learn them in a day, but being used to using them in a given situation is another story

[devout nacelle]

You can probably get an intuitive gist of what induction is, but it's debatable if you can actually use it in the context of different problems.

[vast surge]

A standard undergraduate intro to proofs course would spend over a week, probably two or three at least, on induction.

In my experience

[devout nacelle]

I had a chapter on mathematical induction in HS, one that I found annoying back then.

[vast surge]

And nobody who just takes an intro proofs course is the best ever at proving things; all of math education is learning how to prove things

[sacred geyser]

in HS when we did induction it was like a 2 week thing it was pain

[errant bloom]

That is wonderful! I just realized that I haven't covered a whole section of one topic in school, when I was writing paper 1 (obviously I failed..). I have paper 2 exam in 2 days, and I feel really bad about it.

[vast surge]

So, like, you might learn the definition of what induction is in a day. You won't learn how to use induction, when it's appropriate, the intricacies of inductive arguments, how many base cases you need, etc. in a day.

[errant bloom]

Ohkay, thanks for letting me know!

[vast surge]

The best way to learn induction is to try to write proofs that use induction and then have a professor go over them and tell you what to do better next time.

[errant bloom]

I am talking about induction in high-school level.

[vast surge]

Then a teacher

[errant bloom]

I have exams this whole week, and teachers are not free.

They are never free, lol

[vast surge]

I meant the inductions you would do as homework

When you learn them in a course

[devout nacelle]

You can use some online resources to learn and practice, and ask for help here when stuck. #proofs-and-logic is your friend.

[errant bloom]

Is math deduction part of math induction?

and proof by contradiction

[devout nacelle]

Deduction is a form of reasoning. Mathematical induction is one of the forms in which it appears within mathematics.

[vast surge]

Proof by induction and proof by contradiction are both proof techniques.

[devout nacelle]

Loosely speaking, proofs are deductions bound by some rules of inference, which take some statements/axioms for granted to establish something new.

[vast surge]

Neither are necessarily part of the other, though they can be - you can use an inductive argument to prove a contradiction, for example.

[errant bloom]

Do you guys think proofs require a calculator? I have a calc paper. The first one was non-calc so I had a lot of algebra (proofs)

[vast surge]

Proofs generally do not require a calculator.

[errant bloom]

Ohh

[vast surge]

Especially the ones you would do at a highschool level

If there are computations required to do a proof, then the teacher shouldn't have any issues with you using a calculator, though.

Some proofs do require calculators and computers that run for months. The proof of the Four Colours Theorem is a good example of that.

[errant bloom]

Also, what about De moivre's theorm and conjugate root theorm? Is it easy to grasp?

[devout nacelle]

De-Moivre is proved by induction if I remember correctly?

[vagrant kestrel]

demoivres theorem is not intuitive

anything you have to prove by induction is not intuitive

[devout nacelle]

I was just spoonfed that as a fact in HS, I don't think I ever looked at it in a geometric way(which probably helps?)

[sacred geyser]

i dont remember using induction for de moivre's, unless im remembering the wrong theorem

[vast surge]

Most mathematics is not very intuitive. Building mathematical intuition is difficult.

[vagrant kestrel]

nah it's pretty intuitive

[vast surge]

$(\cos x + i\sin x)^{n}=\cos nx + i\sin nx$ is De Moivre's; I don't know if it's what you were remembering

[sacred geyser]

oh lmao i am remembering the wrong thing

[fathom swallow]

Bannanachair Monarch

[sacred geyser]

yeah you use induction on that

[devout nacelle]

This is the one I remember

[static loom]

never learned de moivre's but it's obvious once you learn e^ix = cosx + i sinx

[errant bloom]

You guys all make it sound hard and easy at the same time.

And there is also geometric interpretations of Idk what

[vast surge]

I would just do $(\cos x+i\sin x)^{n}=(e^{\pi x})^{n}=e^{nx\pi}=\cos nx+i\sin nx$ personally

[devout nacelle]

😌

[fathom swallow]

Bannanachair Monarch

[sacred geyser]

i feel like for a lot of proofs, when i first learned how to do them, i spent an hour thinking "this makes no sense" and then something would click in my head and id think "OH thats how you do it"

[vast surge]

But I'm sure there's a way that uses induction

[devout nacelle]

This one isn't so bad by induction either iirc, you have to use some compound angle identities in the final step.

[errant bloom]

Oh and I need to also learn complex, binomials, eular form. Are they complicated?

[vast surge]

Complex you just have $\sqrt{-1}$

[fathom swallow]

Bannanachair Monarch

[devout nacelle]

How much time do you really have?

[vast surge]

So complex numbers are $a+b\sqrt{-1}$

[fathom swallow]

Bannanachair Monarch

[vast surge]

Where $a$ and $b$ are real

[fathom swallow]

Bannanachair Monarch

[devout nacelle]

Since you mentioned you have 2 days of time, I wouldn't really recommend such hard grinding.

[devout nacelle]

Same but sometimes it takes months

[vast surge]

And also Euler's identity, $e^{i\pi\theta}=\cos\theta+i\sin\theta$

[fathom swallow]

Bannanachair Monarch

[errant bloom]

My test is on 10th june. And I have the math olympiad on the same day. Then I have physics the next day (11th)

[vast surge]

That's all you need to know about complex numbers; everything else basically just follows from that

[devout nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-zuko-thats-rough-buddy-thats-rough-gif-4264932

[sacred geyser]

oofy

[devout nacelle]

Test+olympiad on the same day is yikes

[errant bloom]

Both math

[neat lintel]

Tbh when reading something I like to go all out and read 24/7

[vast surge]

Putnam the same day as finals

[sacred geyser]

that reminds me i had an exam right before i took the putnam and so i slept through the second half of it

[vast surge]

That's what my school does

[errant bloom]

What is putnam?

[neat lintel]

So I do think you could learn all those in 2 days

[vast surge]

Very hard math test

[devout nacelle]

This sounds awful

[static loom]

you have an extra pi in there

[vast surge]

It's why I haven't tried the putnam yet

[vast surge]

I keep doing that

[devout nacelle]

Any reason why they do this?

Just to make sure you're "in form" or sth?

[errant bloom]

Apparently round 1 for this country olympiad is easy

[vast surge]

I keep mixing up the e^pi i=-1 with the more general version

[errant bloom]

What?

[devout nacelle]

Was directed towards Monarch

[vast surge]

The school schedules finals for all departments in that week

[static loom]

$$\dv[n]{x}e^{e^{i 2\pi/n}x} = e^{e^{i 2\pi/n}x}$$

[fathom swallow]

Merosity

[vast surge]

The department gets no say in the matter, and only like 3 or 4 people do the putnam from my school each year anyway

[errant bloom]

I have two weeks of exams

[sharp mulch]

[devout nacelle]

Ahhhh

[vast surge]

Basically, it's the registrar's fault

[devout nacelle]

:(

[night lantern]

[sharp mulch]

[errant bloom]

Thanks guys! I don't even feel like working knowing that it is difficult.

[sacred geyser]

in any case, doing algebra with complex numbers is often pretty nice once you get used to it

dang yall

[vast surge]

Study, but don't burn yourself out, is my suggestion.

If you feel like more studying is just going to exhaust you instead of help you, then stop

My school has reading days before finals, and I never study on reading days - I need to be rested and energized in advance of finals, personally, so I do my studying during the semester

[errant bloom]

I am already burnt out on chem. I moved(forced) from bio to chem like right next to the finals, and I am been trying to study the whole book in barely a week. I just finished chem, so I am glad.

[vast surge]

But, like, just because that works for me doesn't mean it will work for you, and you know you best.

[errant bloom]

Thanks.

[vast surge]

But if you genuinely don't know the material that's going to be on the test than obviously study for it

[devout nacelle]

Goodluck for your exams nevertheless. Do keep your well-being in mind.

[vast surge]

This. Your well-being is way more important than a test.

[errant bloom]

Hahaha, if I don't score well, my well-being is worse.. if you get what I mean.

[vast surge]

If you fuck up, you can always do better next semester.

[broken scaffold]

I mean sometimes you fuck up and you die

[vast surge]

Word of advice: Don't take test scores like that. I used to cut if I got anything below an A on a test; I was not healthy. I've been way better since I let my GPA drop a bit.

[devout nacelle]

If anything I've been super lax about my grades, which is unhealthy too but I feel good about not tormenting myself with grades. I feel like if you put some genuine effort into stuff you like, communicate well, grab good opportunities, then things just work out fine.

[vast surge]

Yeah, I still put effort in, I just don't see myself as a failure if I only do better than most of the class instead of being top of the class.

[static loom]

studying hard before a test is fine so long as you can still perform on the test lol

[vast surge]

And, like, when my effort shifted from getting good grades to understanding the material, school got way easier, if that makes sense.

[errant bloom]

Yeah, I guess so. I moved schools and everyone here is chasing, like literally "chasing after the grades". They keep taking about their grades and it is annoying.

[errant bloom]

This reminds me of me in chem. I blanked out 2day.

[vast surge]

Yeah, ignore that kind of talk. Focus on learning and understanding the material, that's the most important thing. Even if your grade doesn't reflect that, a good teacher will know when you put in genuine effort to understand material (especially if you go to office hours, etc.)

You know you've got it good when your profs are sending you memes

[errant bloom]

Thanks for the advise. The teachers don't teach, lol. I have plenty of free time.

I have a list of messages on my account saying "no class".

Or I forgot that we had class

[vast surge]

When you go to university and/or college, go to a school where the professors are known for being good at teaching, is my recommendation. That's way more important than a school with prestigious research or whatever as an undergrad

[neat lintel]

Lol where can you find those

[sacred geyser]

my specific graduating class in high school was very competitive, much more so than any other class, i felt much better after i graduated, and just worried about learning the material for myself and not as some social game

[vast surge]

The guy I'm thinking of, I was in two classes with him and played board games against him in office hours before we got to that level.

[neat lintel]

Woah

[vast surge]

He's also just known to just basically be a very old child (exaggerating slightly, but only slightly)

[sacred geyser]

one of the profs in physics owns a ton of guitars, played OW a lot and watches anime hes chill

[vast surge]

There's a compsci professor who taught over twitch during the pandemic, and sometimes his students would watch his streams. I never had him though, but my friends did.

[sacred geyser]

we talked about quantum numbers for like an hour or two straight and then talked about punk concerts

[vast surge]

I have an English professor who I had for one semester and just stay in touch with to talk about music

[broken scaffold]

oh do you listen to The Wall together

[vast surge]

Also, any good punk bands touring? All the bands I follow stopped touring for the pandemic and haven't started again yet

[vast surge]

No; we are in agreement that The Wall is overrated. It's only like the 7th or 8th best Floyd album, and a mediocre album in general (though the movie is good and some of the individual tracks are pretty good)

[sacred geyser]

not sure, im much more in the metal scene than punk, although i can ask a friend

[vast surge]

I'm in a bunch of scenes

[sacred geyser]

im partial to Animals and Meddle since i have nostalgia for those

[vast surge]

It's been so long since I've seen live music I'll honestly take anything

[sacred geyser]

well fall of troy is going to start touring again i think

[vast surge]

Personally I really like early Floyd stuff; Piper and Saucerful

[sacred geyser]

nah not touring exactly, but they will be doing a few shows in CA and TX

[vast surge]

Ah, that's a bit out of the way for me

I think I'll just start following local concert venues. There's bound to be something.

[sacred geyser]

those are sometimes the most fun imo, im not one for big concerts

[vast surge]

Oh, I almost never go to big concerts

[neat lintel]

What talk is starting and how to see it?

[vast surge]

It looks like it's going to be about the Yoneda lemma

[devout nacelle]

^^^^^

[neat lintel]

yo

[vagrant kestrel]

wait this talk is for people other than the discord too

[bold ferry]

ur name gives me solo leveling vibe banachair

[vagrant kestrel]

there's a prof

[vast surge]

I don't know enough category theory to be able to get anything out of it, I think.

[vagrant kestrel]

link to talk https://bbb.agdsn.de/der-juy-3ge-0pq>

[vast surge]

Solo leveling?

[bold ferry]

Its a manhwa

[sharp mulch]

The talk that I posted

[bold ferry]

korean comic equivalent

[sharp mulch]

Solo leveling is bad

Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint is superior

Thank you for coming to my talk

[bold ferry]

lol lol lol

[devout nacelle]

This one got recorded

[vast surge]

This is the second time I've heard about manhwa this week and I had never heard of the medium before now. Has it suddenly skyrocketed in popularity in the west (like k-pop did after Gangnam Style), or was I just not noticing it before now?

[neat lintel]

how do talk work

[sharp mulch]

You just weren't noticing it

And K-pop was around long before Gangnam style

[vast surge]

You open your mouth and your throat vibrates the air, which makes soundwaves that other people can hear.

[neat lintel]

it's not working

[devout nacelle]

You can notify your interest through ModMail, then release an announcement about the contents/timings/medium. Then just do the talk on prescribed date.

[vast surge]

I know, but it became massively more popular among western audiences in 2012 after Gangnam Style blew up worldwide.

[vagrant kestrel]

gangnam style introduced kpop to you, the masses

[bold ferry]

because ur typing carla

[neat lintel]

but i'm typing with my mouth

[devout nacelle]

[vast surge]

,iam talks

[fathom swallow]

Gave you the Talks selfrole.

[vagrant kestrel]

carla are you ok

[vast surge]

That's how you do it

[sharp mulch]

#bots

[vast surge]

Right, do that in #bots , mb

[bold ferry]

typing with mouth
wow

[devout nacelle]

Voice typing smh

[vast surge]

TTS

[bold ferry]

then its clearly working

[vast surge]

Wait no the opposite of TTS

[devout nacelle]

Talk To Speech

[neat lintel]

i don't even know who Speech is

why would i talk to them

[sharp mulch]

Text to speech

[devout nacelle]

Oh shit that doesn't work

[sharp mulch]

Speech to text

[devout nacelle]

No

It has to be TTS

[vast surge]

TTS stands for text-to-speech

Talk To Styping

[devout nacelle]

Need some word starting with S to replace text

[vagrant kestrel]

only 8 people showed up to the talk

[sharp mulch]

It's on a weekday

People are busy

[devout nacelle]

The numbers might be low, but engagement matters more imo

[vast surge]

Par for the course. My department used to hold colloquia that only like 5 undergrads would show up to and then all the professors

[vagrant kestrel]

4 are from his university or w/e

[sharp mulch]

And stuff

[bold ferry]

what was the talk bout?

[vagrant kestrel]

yea I remember going to colloquia with no other students

[vast surge]

Yoneda lemma

[torn willow]

Ange,how do you find these amazing nicknames

[vast surge]

My school tries to make the colloquia undergrad accessible, and my advisor gives extra credit to her calc class for kids who attend colloquia.

[bold ferry]

o rip
I dont even know what a category is

[vagrant kestrel]

it's a thingy and its inner workings

and the yoneda lemma says if you have no friends you're nothing

[vast surge]

Categories are sets but bigger

So that you can do the category of all sets

[sharp mulch]

Well

Categories also have some extra structure

It isn't just a big collection of things

[vast surge]

Still can't do the category of all categories

[sharp mulch]

You also need morphisms

And a rule for composing morphisms as well

[vast surge]

Like isomorphisms and homomorphisms?

[sharp mulch]

No homomorphisms in cat theory

Or

I guess all the morphisms are homomorphisms

Because they are in hom

[neat lintel]

i am in homo too

[sharp mulch]

There is a category of small categories

[vast surge]

Yes but I want self-referentiality

[sharp mulch]

Well

It's also a 2-category

[atomic hornet]

Idk any categories

Theory

What is it useful for outside algeber

applications to cs theory?

[surreal sapphire]

it's useful for shitposting on mathematics discord

serious answer: some people will tell you there are applications to programming language theory

it's related to functional programming

[sick burrow]

Set theory is arguably better for this

[sharp mulch]

It depends on the type of CS theory

Lambda calculus/type theory is more relevant to functional programming than category theory is

[surreal sapphire]

you can't use set theory to obscure easy concepts
don't @ me

[sharp mulch]

Can't you?

[surreal sapphire]

I can't

tbh i'm not convinced any computer scientist does category theory

there is this book by bartosz milewski "category theory for programmers"

and computer science people will tell me its great

[sharp mulch]

Sounds dubious

[surreal sapphire]

it has cute drawings

[sharp mulch]

This is just function composition...

[surreal sapphire]

it's also a commutative diagram

[sleek wing]

lol

[sharp mulch]

Yes function composition makes a commutative diagram

[vast surge]

Category theory is used a lot in algebraic geometry as well as just in algebra

[sharp mulch]

Outisde algebra

[vast surge]

It's used in geometry

[surreal sapphire]

one could also mention applications to philosophy(?)

but i already mentioned shitposting

[sharp mulch]

What geometry is it used in that isn't algebraic geometry

[vast surge]

I mean that's the only one that immediately comes to mind

Given the importance of algebraic techniques to number theory I wouldn't be surprised if there's category theory used in number theory

[sharp mulch]

Arithmetic geometry sure

Or algebraic number theory

[velvet dagger]

Define using category theory

Like I think a lot of math gets by by just saying oh the category of this and that's a functor

Which in my mind barely counts. But then there's stuff like brown rep

[blazing pawn]

browns rep theorem is so fucking cool

[modest rune]

I think there is very little of math that could not get by without category theory

but it normally drastically reduces work and language and setup

Brown rep itself isn't really categorical in its original formulation

iirc its basically just obstruction theory

[bronze pelican]

Theres a lot of effort in phrasing things categorically

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I guess I'm thinking of this version of Brown rep: https://www.ams.org/journals/tran/1965-119-01/S0002-9947-1965-0182970-6/S0002-9947-1965-0182970-6.pdf

But yeah my point is, I guess there's a lot of math that can avoid CT, but where it can help somehow

[modest rune]

this is like rarely true

Category theory is like a language

once you know it

[velvet dagger]

But then I'm wondering how much number theory uses "actual" category theory

[modest rune]

most things end up being pretty naturally categorical

idek what actual category theory really means tbh

you could argue that even setting up infinity cats is so hard that using them in any way is category theory

same with model cats to a lesser extent

you use colimits and stuff all the time

[velvet dagger]

I'd say that counts

[modest rune]

and properties of adjoints are essential to make arguments painless often

the one downside of studying using dummit and foote

is that talking about CT here

is far more entertaining

[velvet dagger]

Yeah for sure

[bronze pelican]

I mean a lot of times the question you're asking is, "what's the right category here?" Like you have some naturally occurring phenomena and then you want to "categorify" it to understand it better.

[modest rune]

oh sure building categories can be hard work

[astral marsh]

@rancid meadow

when i dont have time to BM because yasuo is close ^

when i do ^

well that didnt work out

the 2nd message is about the 2nd clip

[grim token]

Fiora takes skill

btw

[astral marsh]

is that supposed to be sarcastic? lol

[grim token]

Yes

[astral marsh]

yes it does take practice to execute her mechanics correctly

[grim token]

Ez af champ

[astral marsh]

the difficulty doesn't lie in the breadth of combos like with riven

[grim token]

It's easy when ur champ has mechanics to inflate your true skill level

[astral marsh]

rather in the actual precision of the execution

[grim token]

Does that make sense?

I play Master Yi

[astral marsh]

tf are you talking about fam

[grim token]

he has no mechanics

[astral marsh]

fiora is in a terrible spot rn

[grim token]

pure skill

[astral marsh]

in fact riven is busted rn

the buffs to her core items

[grim token]

Agreed

[astral marsh]

too much

but fiora was left behind by s11

[grim token]

I hate riven man

ghodf

[astral marsh]

@grim token in any case responding to your original comment

riven is hard mechanically for sure but again a lot of it is in the breadth and stand-alone memorized execution of combos

i find fiora and camille to be more interesting because of the higher emphasis on positional precision

do you play dota?

invoker can be compared to riven in a sense in terms of having lengthy combos that focus on speed of input

but invoker's combos are both longer and require greater speed than riven combos

[sharp mulch]

[astral marsh]

invoker has 10 spells and each one is made available to cast by pressing 3 keys in order (an ordering of Q W E) and R to actually make it appear as a castable spell

then another key to cast it right

so a standard 3 spell combo would be 15 keypresses

but you would want to get that to less than 3 seconds

[sharp mulch]

You also want to be doing animation cancels

[grim token]

Sure there are hard champs

And sure they are difficult to learn

but once they are learnt

learned*

I think they inflate the player's actual elo

I guess that's how it's supposed to work

But idk sometimes its frsutrating

[astral marsh]

yeah for sure @sharp mulch

[sharp mulch]

And moving

For spell positioning

[astral marsh]

although riven also has an emphasis on this

[grim token]

When I play Master Yi I could be playing 200% and be at the same level as a 100% trying fiddlesticks or somethign

[astral marsh]

a central one

but overall invoker combos have a faster speed of input and are lengthier than riven combos

[sharp mulch]

Hehe big mana pool

[astral marsh]

and if you want to estimate the total number by like 10c3 (lol) it'd be 120

https://i.imgur.com/C6kPmBO.jpeg

some example riven combos here

[pure sun]

I didn't get selected for the jury today 🥳

also hi all

[astral marsh]

there's probably much less unique riven combos, like, up to slight variation

hello banan

[astral marsh]

oh nice i think lol

i remember my dad being on jury duty once or something

all i remember is going to a courthouse

[pure sun]

yeah I am happy

I was one of 30-ish people who were being questioned by attorneys as a potential juror in this case

and they chose 14, 12 for the jury and 2 alternates

if I had been chosen, I would have had to go back every day this week to hear the trial

[grim token]

XDD

I didn't know it was this hard

Seems pretty easy to me

[astral marsh]

i mean i dont have personal experience with riven combos, try em out for yourself, i was talking about invoker combos in the messages above what you replied to

solely in terms of speed of input and total length in terms of keypresses

(compared to riven combos)

@pure sun ah i see

yeah sounds like a pain

when do you start being eligible?

i cant imagine being selected lol

[pure sun]

it depends on the state, in texas I think it's 18 but in missouri it's 21

I was also called once in texas when I was 19 but I got excused from it cuz I was a student

[modest rune]

called it buncho

[pure sun]

haha yeah

[astral marsh]

oh you can be excused? nice

[pure sun]

although my education was never actually brought up (though I know they did have that information)

what I think got me struck was me saying "I don't think it's fair that this 17-year-old is being charged as an adult" and they asked me if I would be able to separate that feeling from my ability to "follow the rules of the courtroom and apply the law of the state of missouri as given by the judge and assess all of the presented evidence fairly and impartially" to which I responded "yes, I believe that I am good at following rules"

[sharp mulch]

[pure sun]

yeah arch, you can get excused for things like "a student" (so you dont hav eto miss school) or "would pose extreme hardship" (i.e. you have a dependent who relies on you for daily care) or for a few other reasons

[nimble shuttle]

removed from jury duty because i promised to decide guilty no matter the defendant

[modest rune]

what happens if I just like

[leaden torrent]

i mean if you dont want to become a juror its really easy to disqualify yourself

[astral marsh]

lol i am very bad at compartmentalizing stuff like that so i imagine i would get struck instantly

[modest rune]

write the term jury nullification on a piece of paper

and hand it to the lawyers

[pure sun]

hahaha

[sharp mulch]

[leaden torrent]

max theyll think youre a brainlet

[pure sun]

oh also i'm allowed to talk about this cuz I wasn't selected so

[leaden torrent]

but they wont make you a juror

so mission accomplished

[modest rune]

thats all that matters

im a brainlet anyway

[pure sun]

the alleged crime was a pair of muggings

with a firearm

the defendant was 17 at the time of the alleged crimes

[leaden torrent]

i mean idk i havent gotten called for jury duty and i know it sucks

but i feel like if i got called id genuinely try

at least the first time

just to experience the legal system

[nimble shuttle]

there are better ways to experience the legal system

[sharp mulch]

[leaden torrent]

since its, you know, the foundation of modern society and all, probably good if my conception of it is at least somewhat grounded in experience

[nimble shuttle]

why don't you commit your own crime instead of relying on others? smh nami

[leaden torrent]

rather than purely what media shows

[pure sun]

so I wasn't going out of my way to get struck, but also like, when they asked me questions like, how does the age of the defendant influence your perception of them

i'm going to answer truthfully

[leaden torrent]

fair

thats the right thing to do

[umbral oxide]

honestly im surprised you took the job

[pure sun]

and i did say "yes I could follow the rules and separate my feelings from the laws I'm asked to apply"

[leaden torrent]

i mean personally i dont see a significat difference between 17 and 18?

[rancid meadow]

its your civic duty

[leaden torrent]

then again thinking back to high school

[pure sun]

as opposed to just saying like "no I could not do that and I would return a not guilty verdict"

[leaden torrent]

12th graders were way more emotionally mature than 11th

[pure sun]

which I could have done (and which someone else in there did)

[leaden torrent]

comparatively

so i guess there is one lmao

its still an arbitrary line

[pure sun]

so like, the thing is, the "line" isn't even a line

[nimble shuttle]

17 year olds can be little more than 0 years or just under 2 years younger than 18 year olds

[pure sun]

because in missouri the "line" is 17, but even if you're under 17

you can still be tried as an adult

it's just taht over 17 is automatic adult

[leaden torrent]

huh i see

[pure sun]

and under 17 the state has to appeal to a judge

kids as young as 14 can be tried as an adult

[errant kiln]

That strongly depends on the individual; one year doesn't make that much of a difference, I think.

[pure sun]

if the state approves

[leaden torrent]

i mean yea it does but talking as a whole

[pure sun]

but like, I guess my feeling is more of a, if we don't trust 17 year olds to buy cigarettes or alcohol or (in some states) consent to sex

[leaden torrent]

obviously this is purely anecdotal

[pure sun]

why are we treating them like an adult in this case

(for the record i dont actually know the age of consent in missouri)

[leaden torrent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws

[pure sun]

ok, it is in fact 17 in missouri

but it varies from 16 to 18

[rancid meadow]

foucault moment

[astral marsh]

i mean rather than going the side of "17 is close to 18 so treating them as an adult is fine" i would probably think along the lines of "18 is that close to 17, even at 18 its a bit sketchy"

[pure sun]

in other states

yeah arch that's my feeling as well

[broken scaffold]

😩

[errant kiln]

When do you have the right to vote in the U.S.?

[pure sun]

voting is 18

[errant kiln]

but alcohol is 21, of course

[pure sun]

of course

[broken scaffold]

y should voting and alcohol be related

[errant kiln]

But that's still more justifiable than what's happening in Austria.
Voting is 16, although you are only considered to be an adult once you reach the age of 18.

[broken scaffold]

y should voting and adulthood be related

it's all arbitrary as fuck

[errant kiln]

Why should you be able vote on the faith of your nation, when you aren't even allowed to decide when you go to bed

[broken scaffold]

it's just ur stance on politiks

granted, ur stance on bedtime is overruled but still

[leaden torrent]

who doesnt let 18 year olds decide when to go to bed

what kind of overprotective parent

[errant kiln]

16

and I only meant legally

[umbral oxide]

you have no idea

there are people like that

i personally know them

granted they are not 18 anymore

but they barely left the house

because their parents were worried about them

[astral marsh]

parenting approaches differ

[velvet dagger]

Well I mean idk if parents "legally" decide your bedtime even there no?

[broken scaffold]

mm yes helicopter parents mmm

[astral marsh]

i was fortunate to have decently understanding parents

so at 16 i did not have rigidly determined bedtimes

[broken scaffold]

I think they can just make an ultimatum like "you're kicked out if you don't go to bed at this time"

[neat lintel]

that's when you kick the parents out

[astral marsh]

on the other hand i constantly heard about curfews and stuff from other kids and families

which was namely because they would be out partying past midnight

[velvet dagger]

Yes but I'm being a little bit technical about the law here

[astral marsh]

meanwhile i did not party

very much at all

which would explain a bit of the ease i had with bedtimes

[velvet dagger]

Like obv they can kick you out of the house > 18 if they want lol

[errant kiln]

Okay, yes, I should've given a different example xD
Let's go with property then. You are allowed to vote while you still don't own anything, legally.

[broken scaffold]

you still have a concious mind tho

and you live, and experience things

and can critically think, maybe

[velvet dagger]

In fact I'd wager they're still legally responsible for you so if anything kicking your kids out at 17 could qualify as some form of negligence no? I have no idea what the law is on that

[pure sun]

Is this actually true? a lot of states have laws against just kicking people out of homes as an anti-homeless-thing

[errant kiln]

but they do have to support their kid financially though, right?

[pure sun]

for example like, if two people are dating and live together and break up

one of them can't just be like "you have to move out tomorrow"

if that would leave the other person homeless

it does depend on the state

[grim token]

#❓how-to-get-help

[errant kiln]

I think they can?

[velvet dagger]

Well I don't mean same day, there's probably some kind of eviction process

But I wouldn't think they can just stay with you indefinitely

And I guess that's what I had in mind earlier, like regardless of the age parents are allowed to have a "my house my rules" policy, so I was wondering what adulthood changed on a legal level. So e.g. ownership of things (in Austria)

So yeah that's pretty nuts

[pure sun]

yeah I agree with that dami

but like

it's like a 30-day civil court kind of process

I'm trying to google this and it seems like most states make distinctions between "tenants" and "guests" and "lodgers"

[errant kiln]

I don't know about you the U.S., but if parents decide to kick their children out of the house before they finished studying, they must support them financially.

[pure sun]

depending on the presence of a legal agreement

or if the person can demonstrate taht they contribute to the upkeep of the house

and how long they've been staying there

[modest rune]

jokes on my parents, i'll be like 27 by the time im done studying

[grim token]

Done stuyding?

That's a thing?

Damn

[pure sun]

yeah max has a big test coming up

in 5 years

which he is studying for

[modest rune]

is that not what a thesis defense is

you just need a really long study guide

[pure sun]

hahahaha

[grim token]

What is thesis defence?

[errant kiln]

I think there's a limit for age (I think it's 24) for such cases -.-

[grim token]

Defense

[modest rune]

when you want a phd

you write an original paper thing

and then defend it

[grim token]

Defend it from who?

[modest rune]

afaik the "defense" is usually formal in the sense that your advisor shouldn't let you do it if they aren't already sure you will pass

[velvet dagger]

The snakes

[modest rune]

your phd committee and 6 well-trained MMA fighters

at the same time

[vagrant kestrel]

sometimes you defend it from andrew wiles

[velvet dagger]

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/faq-the-snake-fight-portion-of-your-thesis-defense

[grim token]

Do they try to poke holes in your argument?

[modest rune]

if there are holes in your argument you probably should not be allowed to defend the thesis

or even suspected holes

(for math in particular)

[grim token]

So then what is there to defend it from

[modest rune]

(not other subjects)

[grim token]

Kek

[velvet dagger]

@pure sun what snake did you have to fight?

[errant kiln]

it's just a conversation, usually (if you are prepared).

[grim token]

But honestly bro

Getting a phd doesn't seem that hard

If you like the subject

[bronze pelican]

[modest rune]

Q: Could the snake kill me?
A: That almost never happens. But if you’re worried, just make sure that you write a good thesis.

advice to live by

[errant kiln]

[pure sun]

there weren't very many snakes

my defense was over zoom

I talked for about 45 minutes and got a handful of questions

[velvet dagger]

I feel it's not difficult to write a mediocre but passable thesis? But overall doing original work feels non trivial

[pure sun]

mostly of the form "is this related to xyz other topic?" and "did you think about how this method might be used to solve related problems?" and stuff like that

yeah dami i know some uchicago grad students who didnt prove anything original and were leaving academia

and their dissertatino was like

a 15-page summary of some known theorems and then a small lemma they proved

which definitely falls under "mediocre but passable"

yeah 15 pages is really really short

mine was 120 pages

oh?

i feel like undergrad theses are usually like

40-ish

at the most

I see, I guess it's maybe different in differetn places

most undergrad theses I've seen don't reach 60 pages

but this is from an american perspective

[deep mango]

Ange and I attended a zoom thesis defense for math/computer science, and it was basically the same as what Buncho said. 45 minute talk, lots of very congratulatory and non-confrontational questions at the end.

It was an extremely good talk, seemed very rock solid.

I'm sure it would be tougher if things were not as... Clearly impressive? Idk.

[narrow rock]

THIS IS REAL???

[pure sun]

yeah i've attended a good number of both live and zoom defenses over the past few years and most of them kinda follow that format, but it does depend on the committee and institution and how impressive the math is

[nimble shuttle]

yes brofib not a metaphor

you will want to prepare yourself

for trial by combat

[bronze pelican]

hypersheaf

[leaden torrent]

mcsweeneys is fantastic (their academic satire, that is)

its an incredibly niche target audience

of overly online academics

but it serves that niche very well

[hallow wasp]

mcsweeny's?

oh the website

i dont get the metaphor and because of that i dislike it.

[modest rune]

there isnt a metaphor

its a helpful guide for dealing with the snake portion of a thesis defense

[hallow wasp]

snakes are living organisms. i do not think it is reasonable to think that people trying to get accreditation from schools fight snakes.

[modest rune]

Have you gotten a Ph.D.?

It's honestly an antiquated part of the process in my opinion

but its stuck around

[hallow wasp]

no, i watched my hs teacher do his thesis defense and i did not see any stakes

[modest rune]

like quals

[hallow wasp]

in math education

[modest rune]

Oh the snakes come at the end, and they don't allow spectators

for the obvious reasons

no one wants to see death

[hallow wasp]

this is why math jokes arent funny.

[rancid meadow]

i've conversed with multiple phd students preparing for their defense/snake fight

[umbral oxide]

Most snakes are not poisonous

They are cute

[modest rune]

it depends on how good your thesis is

[modest rune]

It's not a math jokes (you can get a phd in many things)

[bronze pelican]

generations of mathematicians have been battling certain snakes

[rancid meadow]

the reason mathematicians rock climb is to train their grip strength to be able to grip the snake.

[modest rune]

Honestly the snake part is the only thing most Ph.D.'s have in common across fields

[hallow wasp]

what was i reffering to?

[modest rune]

damn u got me

i was not careful

i am a fool

anyway i think this is very funny and that u r overthinking it

[hallow wasp]

did you know i can read minds over the web?

[leaden torrent]

i feel like its obviously satire from the article

even if youre unfamiliar with mcsweeneys

and somehow miss the header banner that says its humour

and the satire disclaimer at the bottom

[bronze pelican]

i just watched all the exodromy talks]

didnt undrstand a thing but

[narrow rock]

did you watch the bit where he had to write down a full sentence

and switched colors every word lmao

[bronze pelican]

i watched all 3

[narrow rock]

noice

[bronze pelican]

i cant read sht but i can watch video 😌

[hallow wasp]

which vid link pls

timestamp*

[narrow rock]

idk

[hallow wasp]

also why do they speak in english at a french school

[narrow rock]

because french is too hard

[rancid meadow]

english is the language of academia or something idk

if they wanted to speak french the only textbooks they'd have would be algebraic geometry

[errant kiln]

i want latin back

[azure kettle]

cringe

[hallow wasp]

trueing

[woeful locust]

@errant kiln if you summon satan then just lusten to mayhem

[lost minnow]

i need dopamine

[sacred geyser]

im partial to going on a walk

if that's more your thing, everyone is different

[lost minnow]

ok I'll try both

[modest rune]

try both at the same time

its a great time

[broken scaffold]

but don't trip when the sidewalk becomes fluid

[sharp mulch]

[devout nacelle]

Start swimming when it becomes a fluid

[sharp mulch]

[cold needle]

dive into it?

[stuck snow]

what up nerds

[south rain]

[stuck snow]

and weebs

[dark grove]

nerd

[south rain]

from itertools import product
for x, y in product(range(-10,10),repeat=2):
  if x*y == -18 and x+y == 9:
    print(x, y)```brute forcing meth

[stuck snow]

didn't expect to see weebs here

[south rain]

[dark grove]

math is so gay bro

:ban:

[stuck snow]

looks a bit unefficient

[south rain]

Hahha

I should have used zip maybe

Oh wait that won't work

[iron hinge]

oh gawd

[stuck snow]

wouldn'tn'tmt't tho?

[south rain]

Huh?

[south rain]

@leaden torrent add emote https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/844413204087308324.gif

[neat lintel]

nami is a nincompoop when it comes to adding emotes

other mods will probably be more open to adding emotes

[leaden torrent]

?

[south rain]

[torn willow]

Bigmath heard that

[south rain]

@/Moderators add to the emote or else

[leaden torrent]

mind half those are shitposts

[neat lintel]

i guess nami just has a prejudice against me, then

[leaden torrent]

but still

8da im gonna be honest i think your emojis are bad

sorry bud

[south rain]

could you put it as :catVibe:

[neat lintel]

we are still missing a non-ironic "that is smart!" emote, i need to find an image for this

[toxic schooner]

[bronze pelican]

is a very good emote

When was it added

And who added it

Obviously someone based

[terse flax]

yes

[leaden torrent]

why would we want this

no one on this server ever says anything smart

[elfin ridge]

Except for you Nami

[leaden torrent]

objectively false.

[elfin ridge]

🍞

[neat lintel]

maybe closest is 🐱 for smart and 🐶 for dumb, at least the dog one i think gomez uses it this way

and also as popularized by moldi

[limber thunder]

I've always used non-ironically

[neat lintel]

the best emotes to use ironically are those that are non-ironic

[surreal sapphire]

you can just tell people "that was smart"

[neat lintel]

that was smart

[surreal sapphire]

there is this social media post that talks about how elephants have a specific sound for "danger, there is bees"

and one comment is like "i wish humans were so smart they had that"

they do

[neat lintel]

Lmao

[surreal sapphire]

this sound is "danger, there is bees"

[neat lintel]

Is the elephant sound learned or innate though?

[surreal sapphire]

i think its learned

you can probably look at different elephant herds

and find accents or different language even

elephants do have some form of culture

[neat lintel]

well my rooster never saw another rooster before and makes a sound typical of roosters, might be different for elephant tho

[vast surge]

Odd question, but does anyone know of any good intercity public transportation in America, specifically operating in upstate NY?

I'm looking into Greyhound routes for a trip that I'm planning, but the routes seem to have changed due to the pandemic

[sharp mulch]

Amtrak and Greyhound I guess

Oh lol rip

Rip American public transportation as well

[vast surge]

So now I would need to spend 13 hours on what should be a 5 hour trip, fucking around with transfers

[sharp mulch]

Have you considered a helicopter rental

[vast surge]

Trailways has literally exactly the same routes as Greyhound, which is helpful

[vast surge]

A bit out of my price range, I believe

[sharp mulch]

[vast surge]

Yeah, the cheapest I could find is on the order of 4 digits.

[south rain]

@leaden torrent haven't uploaded the catVibe

[toxic schooner]

[sharp mulch]

[toxic schooner]

[bold ferry]

[toxic schooner]

[woeful locust]

yo

anyone up

[deep mango]

[woeful locust]

[deep mango]

[vagrant kestrel]

🤗

[woeful locust]

@deep mango so you are telling in a server of nerds, there is no weeb?

@vagrant kestrel hello there

[deep mango]

[woeful locust]

@deep mango get rekt lol

so I am recent HS passout and I am looking forward to study real ANAL-ysis.

I have some introduction to proof writing techniques

[sharp mulch]

[woeful locust]

The book I will be using is Terence Tao's

So, Just wanted to ask if the proof appendix in Tao's book enough

or yall recommend me to take a proof writting course

[rancid meadow]

[woeful locust]

And I have noticed Tao book doesnt have any sol.

So, how can I criticize my work

[crystal stone]

🤮

[woeful locust]

y tho?

[crystal stone]

Terry Tao's not known for good exposition

In his analysis 1 & 2

[surreal sapphire]

#book-recommendations message

[crystal stone]

Big fan of Spivak Calculus

[woeful locust]

@crystal stone i see thanks for the heads up
How abt Rudin?

Is anyone here a metalhead?

[surreal sapphire]

very few people

[crystal stone]

Rudin sucks

[surreal sapphire]

i don't like Rudin either

[crystal stone]

Spivak's Calculus is good

[surreal sapphire]

Tao is fine tbh

[woeful locust]

@neat lintel Carothers?

[sacred geyser]

yessir

[cold needle]

im a metal head but not a metalhead

[woeful locust]

What genre @cold needle @sacred geyser

[sacred geyser]

i enjoy most books 😌 they are fine

[cold needle]

i was joking lol

[woeful locust]

@cold needle oh

[cold needle]

making joke off of being called metal

cus im metalninja 27

[sacred geyser]

mostly death metal

and some power metal

Metal likes brass instruments, but that's not a metal so

not a metalhead

[woeful locust]

@sacred geyser Obituarty?

Do u listen to them

I am mostly into thrash, doom and death

Black metal is shit

How can anyone like that

[sacred geyser]

obituary slaps

some black metal is pretty good, deathspell omega or ruins of beverast

also like uhhh der weg einer freiheit

[woeful locust]

@sacred geyser do you listen to rammstein

[surreal sapphire]

how do people know obscure metal band that is from around here (der weg einer freiheit)

[woeful locust]

@surreal sapphire Have a visit to r/metalmemes

[sacred geyser]

i like der weg haha, like finisterre and stellar

[woeful locust]

Shit blowed up after Mayhem

[surreal sapphire]

i met them on some occassions

[woeful locust]

@surreal sapphire uh a cultured man

[surreal sapphire]

just local metal scene

surprised they are more well known tbh

[sacred geyser]

der weg is pretty well known in the guitar hero scene

[woeful locust]

@sacred geyser I see

Do you listen to behemoth

[sacred geyser]

i do, they are very fun

[woeful locust]

@sacred geyser Ikr, Bartzabel is sure on Satans Spotifys playlist

[vivid halo]

Some black metal is kinda bad insofar as it’s recorded horribly

[surreal sapphire]

that's part of the experience

[vivid halo]

But there’s some well mastered black metal or blackened metal that is really good

Ehh yea I can take some of that but sometimes it’s too much

recorded on a sony walkman inside the bass drum

[surreal sapphire]

i guess you wouldnt get it

poser

[vivid halo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g0P4hvnCm0

[sacred geyser]

OdiumNostrum is a great channel

[sharp mulch]

I play mystic messenger now

[bronze pelican]

of course

[sharp mulch]

This is Zen

He's an actor

He's also kind of a himbo

But not really

Hehe~~

[neat lintel]

[rancid meadow]

thats a cartoon character ange

[sharp mulch]

What

[cold needle]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-cartoon-sponge-bob-spongebob-gif-18148807

i am a hypocrite

but here

Cry about it.

[sharp mulch]

I will openly admit that I find 2d men attractive

[cold needle]

I will openly admit that I find 2d women attractive

[sharp mulch]

[neat lintel]

what happens there stays there ange

[cold needle]

[neat lintel]

ah yes the secant of a pair of vector fields

secant

[cold needle]

hermitian sex operator

cursed

[bronze pelican]

vectors have angles

[sharp mulch]

[bronze pelican]

idk if thats relevant

[neat lintel]

you have angles

[bronze pelican]

yes

[neat lintel]

i am conflicted on whether or not to read IRM chapter 9

it's on gauss-bonnet

how important is it

comparison geometry

[crystal stone]

Well I got to do some event planning for the fall

Let's just say I'm getting paid to study for both the subject and general GRE

I also get to host workshops for people to learn it

Which means I gotta work through the examples

YuH

[sharp mulch]

General gre is easy

[crystal stone]

One would hope

[bronze pelican]

thats actually based

[sharp mulch]

Like

It's easier than sat/act

[bronze pelican]

i mean hosting workshops

[sharp mulch]

I didn't

[crystal stone]

I mean it's kinda cool

I just wish it wasn't most of my job, I'd rather be doing math

when things are in person I'll be helping more people

and hopefully I'll re-learn how to integrate and differentiate quickly

[sharp mulch]

Yeah

The essay is like

Just write something long

Quantity over quality

[velvet dagger]

Lol I didn't know that at the time which is why my essay score wasn't great

I spent wayyyyyyyy too long thinking about the prompt

[sharp mulch]

The prompts are also all really weird

[crystal stone]

Honestly just re-write something from Albert Camus

[sharp mulch]

And not conducive to writing deeply

[crystal stone]

I wonder what would happen if I came in with pages of a novel memorized

and just re-worked it to fit the prompt

[velvet dagger]

I think mine was about whether people should have to take classes in areas other than their main one

[crystal stone]

"No, next question"

[velvet dagger]

Lmao

Was there one or two? I think two?

in fact I think I got cut mid sentence by the timer for one of them

[modest rune]

lmfao

the UChicago reu had to work w the university

and made peter and all the volunteers sign off on a bunch of documents

saying we accept the health risks

of research

[bronze pelican]

lool

eye strain from looking at pdfs

[hoary dirge]

might go mentally insane

[vast surge]

What are the health risks of mathematics research?

[modest rune]

thats the joke

[vast surge]

Oh

[sharp mulch]

Carpal tunnel

Vision problems

[modest rune]

Its a generic health release form

but its like

"what kind of dangerous chemicals will be in the lab"

I'm a volunteer

[vast surge]

There's the ink chemicals from the printer

I guess

[modest rune]

i wont be there in person

[vast surge]

Probably lots of nitrogen and oxygen in the air too

Those things can be dangerous

Health risk: You're kidnapped by a secret society operating out of Chicago, dating back to ancient times, and prepared as a human sacrifice to the dark god of mathematics

[modest rune]

im in california

[vast surge]

Wait nevermind you said you're doing it virtually

I put that there because you said it was UChicago

You'll be kidnapped by the California chapter

[sharp mulch]

[vast surge]

You know, the one we make blood sacrifices to on our altars whenever there's a full moon in order to get good grades?

[sharp mulch]

[bronze pelican]

these are intervals in 3 space

@compact tartan how did you make the server logo?

[compact tartan]

blender for the 3D part, latex for the background

lots of other tools to glue it all together

[bronze pelican]

[vagrant kestrel]

is making animation in blender easy-ish?

[sharp mulch]

[bronze pelican]

making animation in processing is easy imo

[static loom]

depends on what you want to make

[summer nest]

Avatar 2

[static loom]

[vagrant kestrel]

I want a block to flip in the air

[static loom]

depending on what you mean by that, could be easy or hard

a literal rotation by 180 degrees about its origin - dead easy

[vagrant kestrel]

gravity+complicated rotations

[static loom]

also pretty easy since blender can do physics simulation

depending on how you want it to look, might have to tweak stuff

there are a ton of great tutorials out there on youtube

[vagrant kestrel]

alright wish me luck

[sharp mulch]

Lots of blender fluids on youtube

[static loom]

Lots of fluids on the internet 😉