serious-discussion

[neat lintel]

naturally, it's a pretty extensive api

[worn nest]

Yea, but it's way easier compared to vulkan, where you have to build everything from 0

[neat lintel]

yeah, i heard vulkan is really difficult

[worn nest]

Pretty sure you'd need like 1000 lines to put a cube on your screen

It's more modern and fast, but like

way too hard for a beginner

[neat lintel]

no shot. that sounds absurd

[worn nest]

Yeah you need like

800 lines

You have to pour in a lot of hours if you want to be average with vulkan

[jagged forge]

the first time i tried to do anything with graphics, i attempted to draw a ribbon along a polynomial curve. it came out looking like a fucked up christmas tree

my friend said my color and my vertex data probably got crossed or smth

[neat lintel]

lmao

[jagged forge]

i havent done anything more since

[neat lintel]

it's like that sometimes (always for me)

[worn nest]

That's the path you have to take if you're going for something like 3D graphics

CS is broad, after all

[fresh comet]

that's great c:
maybe one day I'll come to love it too

[neat lintel]

yeah! you too can have a skill that doesn't help with your employment chances :3

technically ig but i'm not sure i want to go that route because it would lock me into having to take more classes than i'd like

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/cs-gif-1350024987577698400

[jagged forge]

i saw a post on r/cscareerquestions where someone said based on their experience working with cs graduates and training them, the job market has gotten better in the last 2 years but the candidate pool is so immense that it's hard to distinguish the good from the bad

especially since everyone's resume looks the same when you have AI to write it + no work experience

[fresh comet]

oh I see, I thought you wanted to take more but couldn't because of finances

[jagged forge]

so the biggest signal ends up being the name of the school you went to..

[latent edge]

1984

[jagged forge]

they mainly seemed to think that the quality of candidates has gotten lower

so it's just harder to filter out the crap

[neat lintel]

kinda, it's both. i want to take more but it would have to be at a slower pace which i wouldn't be able to do on financial aid

[fresh comet]

I see

[fresh comet]

oh dear

[jagged forge]

tbh i dunno who this person was, they said they trained 6 cs graduates who reached out on some youtube course, and then 6 cs graduates who reached out on the cscareerquestions reddit

well maybe not trained but coached through interviews ig

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/1oemgrv/reality_of_cs_students_in_this_subreddit/

[jaunty ibex]

ugh cs majors 🙄

[jagged forge]

why did i unblock you

[jaunty ibex]

I thought you kept the block lol

Too bad

[worthy shell]

loooooooooooooooooool

was not expecting the mcdonalds

[worthy shell]

i liked the movie

[latent edge]

I re-watched the movie with my friends and I couldn't help but think of this meme

At some point we started calling it "the cs major career anime"

[worthy shell]

poor suzume

[neat lintel]

is that a green yuri pfp or am i seeing things? >.<

[warm lance]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-depression-fox-gotta-earn-it-dream-gif-8114149797492625421

[glass solar]

is it just me or is undergrad statistics an awful nightmare class? in the last 30 days I have memorized 7 different hypothesis tests

i'm at my limit

[hot lion]

yeah I hated it

perhaps a skill issue

I'd imagine if you learn more you can start to see the big picture but I just found it tedious

[glass solar]

glad im not the only one

its sad cuz i actually like doing stuff with data so i had hoped it would be more sophisticated than this

[true zinc]

YES

IT'S AWFUL

YOU UNDERSTAND MY HATRED

[novel moth]

hey hy

[tardy eagle]

If u take probability in a math department first it is better

Bc less memorization and hopefully more intuition

[crimson nebula]

My math stats was basically this as well

The proof basing didnt help

Lmao

[light gate]

for some reason it only seems to be explained better in grad classes

[glass solar]

i missed my chance to take the grad version of the class 💔

[light gate]

oh nooo

hv you done probability

[glass solar]

not at the graduate level, which locks me out of the stats class

there's always grad school though

[tranquil nexus]

sup

[polar temple]

What is with C elitists?

"To be a good programmer, you need to start with C"

Why is it always C fans?

Granted I never used C but it can't be that important 😭

[true zinc]

You don't need to "start with C" but it does help with developing basic fundamentals, it's good to have a notion of what memory management is and does before you go to a language that automates it away. Also using a language with no built in data structures except static buffers by default is actually quite fun

[polar temple]

If that were true, I'm sure more courses would start with learning C but nobody ever does that

[polar temple]

Yeah then I can see why it would be good to learn it at some point

[wraith magnet]

they probably only know C and think they're so cool for not taking a chance at other languages

[true zinc]

Well almost all CS degrees require at-least 1-2 courses in C

I have to take 4-5

and 4-5 in Java

and at-least 3 in python

[polar temple]

But start with it?

[true zinc]

(most are just what language the class is taught in, only one class on fundamentals)

[polar temple]

C has the biggest elitists fr

[true zinc]

Most kids at my uni came in knowing C

or at-least knowing some C

[neat lintel]

I feel so sorry for your sanity

[polar temple]

Imagine lesson 1 and they teach you C

Why do universities still do Java?

I thought it's outdated

[true zinc]

I'd be fine with it, it's very easy to teach control flow in C

[true zinc]

Huge amounts of enterprise code

[polar temple]

C# seems better

[polar temple]

I see

[true zinc]

There's ALWAYS greenfield projects in Java

Like always

most companies have significant Java codebases

[polar temple]

I can see the usefulness of interpreted languages but man, I hate whenever I only find 5 bugs once I get to a certain line of the program

[true zinc]

That's...not exactly how interpreted languages work, also use an LSP

(most editors have one built in, if you're using vim/helix/emacs you can set one up easily)

[polar temple]

Maybe I should become one of them

Since I'll probably start next year

[true zinc]

I mean, I personally went into uni knowing python, java, some JS, MATLAB, and rust; if anything you want to learn as many languages as you can, it makes life way easier

[polar temple]

I use Python in VSCode

[unborn meteor]

LSP?

[polar temple]

Why did you know so much bro

What a nerd

[true zinc]

language server protocol implementation

[polar temple]

Who needs to know that many languages

[true zinc]

pyright, jedi, pylance, basedpyright

[polar temple]

I don't think I'm cut out for CS

[unborn meteor]

oh you mean like IDE type checking

[polar temple]

Did you graduate yet?

[true zinc]

Uh most people?
I mean, I know and frequently use

• x86 asm (so boring but cool)
• BASH (and other UNIX shell variants)
• C
• C++ (not as much but I'm considering porting one of my projects to it, I've used it once for an arduino tho)
• C# (not as much as java but it's trivial if you know java)
• One of my friends got me into F# and VBNet a while ago but C# is still nice
• HTML and CSS (I hate CSS, but my website is paw-written HTML)
• Haskell (learning)
• OCaml (learning)
• Java
• Kotlin (meh, Java has all its features already)
• JavaScript (not a fan of writing it, but it's cool, @unborn meteor writes a lot of JS)
• MATLAB (I've mostly just switched to using the Python derivative sage instead)
• Python (duh)
• Rust
• R (statistics can suck my-)

[true zinc]

Nah, probs got another year or so left, I'm behind in my degree

[polar temple]

Wtf

You're not behind in your degree

I graduated HS and I know Python, C#, Kotlin

I can pretty much learn any language though on a similar level

Ig I know a little assembly commands too

But I don't think u need to learn all that

Just what u need for the job role

I've used terminal but I mostly used ai and googled the key words to understand them

[polar temple]

What degree

Just cs

[true zinc]

yeah

[polar temple]

Or CS and maths

[true zinc]

just CS

I do maths on the side as a hobby

[polar temple]

Weirdo

Do u think ull get a job

I don't want to do Pure cs

I was going to

[true zinc]

if it takes 5 years to do a 4 year degree you're behind

obviously

[polar temple]

Then I saw sora 2

And I got scared for my jobs

I'm thinking of doing CS and maths

[true zinc]

Yes I want to go into theoretical CS academia or eventually go for a maths phd and go into algebraic geometry

[polar temple]

O

I don't want to research

It sounds cool

[true zinc]

okay breakfast time brb

[polar temple]

But low pay

[true zinc]

As I was telling some others a few days ago, I'd rather get paid less than sacrifice my morals (at-least directly)

[polar temple]

Wdym sacrifice your morals?

I don't like the idea of going through so much debt and then getting paid little

[true zinc]

Work for companies that develop bombs, unethically train AI, siphon up user data against their own listed terms of service and rules, etc....

I'd rather take a job being paid like 80k-100k (for example) vs 300k if it means that I'm not doing something I'll stay up at night wondering about constantly

[polar temple]

Yeah well I wouldn't do that

I would never work on building AI

80k is huge

[true zinc]

80k is not enough in some parts of the world, which is a bit terrifying tbh

[polar temple]

You should make 80k then send me some pocket change over here

You'd make me rich

[ocean harbor]

ever heard of javafx? I think it makes sense why universities still use it

before pursing in cs, the first language I did in hs was c++ and then java

[polar temple]

How old are you

First language in HS is c++

[ocean harbor]

20

I quit cs btw

[polar temple]

Why is your hs doing that

[ocean harbor]

I graduated hs when i was 18

[polar temple]

I feel like I'm not really into the programming industry anymore

Before I used to find programming cool

It used to be so cool creating programs

Now I don't have that

It just feels normal

[true zinc]

I think that PL theory is really cool

theoretical CS is great

[polar temple]

Who doesnt

[ocean harbor]

learning c++ made me interested in programming

bc of game dev

[ocean harbor]

idk maybe a couple of ppl

[polar temple]

I like all kinds of stuff in cs

Not so much into programming anymore

Like fetch execute cycle

That intrigues me

[ocean harbor]

im still into programming but not bullshit languages like java or similar

[polar temple]

I feel like I want to work as a software engineer for some time

But then eventually become a CS teacher instead

[ocean harbor]

real

I tried finding some internships in cs but all i got was a lot of rejections

i even built website for it btw

[polar temple]

Maybe become a web dev instead

That shit looks good

[ocean harbor]

nah web dev sucks

im sticking with python bc I need it for my biomedical applications programming courses in the future 🙂

[polar temple]

I'm at the point where I need to do hard stuff to get better

But the hard stuff seems too hard to do

So I can't be bothered

[ocean harbor]

u have ai since many ppl were using it and pretend its their code

I only quit cs bc of that shi

[spice urchin]

Those are impossible to get I heard

[plucky rain]

ooo that sounds fun! and meaningful too

[ocean harbor]

yeah i mean it wasn't impossible to those who graduated before ai lolll

or before 2020

[pure hollow]

Make it like 2017 cause it's been cooked ever since

[fresh comet]

[tawdry prairie]

Focus blast, knock off, power whip, U-turn

[old oak]

MUMPS?

[ocean harbor]

idk whats this

i tried googling tho

im gonna say no

[twin flicker]

26 is too low gang

sorta

[ocean harbor]

I have applied more than 50 jobs and only listed half of them

[twin flicker]

i usually write typescript and python but im a crudbob

[solar hawk]

The website really does look nice tho lol

I have to make websites for school too and they always look shit

[twin flicker]

use ui libs

[solar hawk]

I try but idk

[twin flicker]

shadcn etc

[solar hawk]

Even still

The one I need to make rn is a pixel art website though

So I’m not sure it will help

[ocean harbor]

use javascript frameworks

[solar hawk]

I use reactjs

[ocean harbor]

thats javascript framework

[solar hawk]

Yes

I love react

[twin flicker]

ui lib

[solar hawk]

Well I don’t LOVE it

[twin flicker]

u can also try using tailwind to make css less annoying

[solar hawk]

I tried shadcn once but

I tried material ui once too

[twin flicker]

alternatively make simple but not ugly ui

it dont need to be mad extra

proper padding, margins, color already does a lot

[ocean harbor]

https://fuckingjobapplication.vercel.app/

this is old website

[solar hawk]

That looks good fr type frog

[twin flicker]

lowk u can just use ai for frontend

like no bullshit

its pretty good at it

[ocean harbor]

literally me

[solar hawk]

I love teto

[twin flicker]

lovable makes some nice shit

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-gif-18004881838616477608

[twin flicker]

im in a final round rn for intern

pay isnt the greatest tho

[solar hawk]

Oh

[twin flicker]

well relative to big swe shit

but its almost entirely remote

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-job-application-get-a-job-akira-job-application-gif-8274337411388777231

[reef geode]

Hi cool and chill chat

How are you all

[neat lintel]

Just chilling

[lone tusk]

Anyone know of any youtubers that can explain very well the whole concepts of pre calc, calc 1-3, physics, trig, etc

[lilac fossil]

Every time I speak, I regret it immensely

[lone tusk]

Me with math

[meager geode]

who here is in calc bc

well

[ocean harbor]

have u tried with organic chemistry tutor?

[meager geode]

im doing calc ab as a class but my teacher lets me do the calc bc exam

[meager geode]

3blue1brown

[ocean harbor]

use #calculus if u have a specific problem

[lone tusk]

Yeah it doesn’t quite work on me

[ocean harbor]

like u can't understand what he's doing?

[fresh comet]

[jovial osprey]

Take the help of ai chatbots dude

[ocean harbor]

that is a bad advice

[jovial osprey]

Bad advice???

[lone tusk]

Well only ai ik is chat gpt

Plus times i’ve tried havent been too legit

[jovial osprey]

Take the help of it

Chatgpt, grokk

[lone tusk]

Hmm ok thanks

[jovial osprey]

Are you pursuing

Engeneering

[lone tusk]

Some times he comes up with conclusions without explanations or doesn’t cover the full concept

[lone tusk]

Well I’m planning on switching my major to mechanical engineering

Next year

[jovial osprey]

Ooh

[lone tusk]

But tbh i suck at math

So i’m trying to get a hold of it now so i don’t suffer when i switch

[jovial osprey]

Do you know linear algebra and calculus

[jovial osprey]

Ooh 😅

[lone tusk]

I’m getting better tho

[jovial osprey]

Nice keep it up

[lone tusk]

Linear math yes, calculus no

[jovial osprey]

Well I'm also just a beginner

[lone tusk]

Highest math i got in highschool was alg 2 with financial math

[jovial osprey]

Ooh

[light gate]

whatttt alg 2 in high school?!

[lone tusk]

But im taking business math rn

[lone tusk]

Yeah…

[light gate]

isnt that like a y3 course at most unis

[jovial osprey]

Same I also had it in my highschool

[lone tusk]

Well, at my highschool the curriculum was alg 1, geometry, alg 2, & then custom math (I chose financial mathematics)

[jovial osprey]

What are you in engineer or something

[lone tusk]

I didn’t take pre calc bc the major I planned on taking wasn’t stem related

[lone tusk]

Law

[light gate]

oh okie

[lone tusk]

😭

[light gate]

misread alg 2

[lone tusk]

Huge switch

[jovial osprey]

Are you science student

[lone tusk]

What did u think I said lol

[fresh comet]

many high schools have a course called "algebra 2" that covers stuff like trigonometry, rational functions, exp/log functions, etc

it's not the "algebra 2" in unis that you're thinking of

[lone tusk]

Nope, tho i like science, the work field is too much for me

[light gate]

we should get rid of numbers

[lone tusk]

Yeahhh its basic

[fresh comet]

a more appropriate name for those courses might be smth like "ring theory and field theory"

[jovial osprey]

Then. ???

[light gate]

what is "calc 3" anyway

[lone tusk]

Get rid of letters in math period

[ocean harbor]

ic

[sharp yarrow]

3d calculus

[fresh comet]

generally, it's multivariable calculus

[lone tusk]

@jovial osprey

[light gate]

i thought multivar was "calc 2"...

[sharp yarrow]

Thats integral calculus

[fresh comet]

most of the time they stick grounded in 2 and 3 variables, but sometimes they'll venture into n dimensions

[jovial osprey]

Ooh srry

[sharp yarrow]

Can we get much @fresh comet

[fresh comet]

higher!

[light gate]

higher!

[jovial osprey]

I think you are math genius dude

[sharp yarrow]

far from it

I wish i were

[jovial osprey]

Wohh nice to meet you dude

[jovial osprey]

Do you know linear algebra and calculus

[ocean harbor]

ye sometimes it doesn't give something right

[jovial osprey]

I'm learning linear algebra from it dude bcz i want to become AI/ML engineer

[lone tusk]

Me all the damn time

[ocean harbor]

I'm also an engineer and I can confirm that chatbot are suck at math

ik u might see it sounds correct but still gives errors or mistakes

[jovial osprey]

Bro can you help me with linear algebra

[lone tusk]

What engineering

[ocean harbor]

no I'm about to sleep soon

[ocean harbor]

biomed

[jovial osprey]

Not now later

Can I count on you

[lone tusk]

Fire

[jovial osprey]

Dude

[ocean harbor]

ask in #linear-algebra

[ocean harbor]

I'm getting cooked with digital systems 💔

[light gate]

❌

i want to do ai/ml research and i dont use ai to teach me math

there are things ai is good for and math is not one of them

[lone tusk]

Every engineering student freaks me out ngl, but oh lord I wanna have that title so bad

[lone tusk]

Very true

[jovial osprey]

Okh dude

[ocean harbor]

i think its only taught when u do ee or biomed

[jovial osprey]

Really

[ocean harbor]

biomed has a part of ee

[light gate]

actually my current scores are below 85th percentile so maybe you shouldnt trust me

[jovial osprey]

That's ok dude

[lone tusk]

Most likely, bc aerospace & mechanical doesn’t have it

[jovial osprey]

Are you also and engineer

[light gate]

cs and math

[ocean harbor]

ya

[jovial osprey]

Heyy

Listen

[ocean harbor]

I'm still curious how math would look like in 4th year

first is just teaching us precalc and calc

I'm tired of this shit

[light gate]

D:

[jovial osprey]

Broo

[light gate]

wait dont you hv two semesters

[ocean harbor]

first sem is precalc and next is calc

[light gate]

don't call me bro

[lone tusk]

Calc 3 i guess

[jovial osprey]

Do you know math like linear algebra calculus

[ocean harbor]

after few years it's applied engineering math

in 4th

[jovial osprey]

Whyy man

[light gate]

doing both this semester

unfortunately

[ocean harbor]

no it's baby calc actually

[jovial osprey]

Ooh

[ocean harbor]

the latest unit is derivatives

[light gate]

im also year 1 so thats strange to me

[jovial osprey]

Can I call you dude then

[light gate]

no

[jovial osprey]

Yupp

Whyy

[ocean harbor]

their pronouns is she

means u can't

dude is meant for boys

[neat lintel]

[jovial osprey]

I don't know he is girl or boy so

Srry

[ocean harbor]

np

[jovial osprey]

Srry @light gate

[ocean harbor]

u can look up for diamonds next to their name

[lone tusk]

I hate that i cant just get a job at nissan without learning all this math & just make cars

[jovial osprey]

I can

[ocean harbor]

I'm also a she but ur welcome to call me bro, dude or whatever since I'm ok with those lol

[jovial osprey]

Make cars wow

[light gate]

ty!!

[lone tusk]

I’d go into automotive engineering but with mechanical i have less chance of failure & more broad opportunities

[light gate]

hows uni treating you :0

[light gate]

what are you studying

[lone tusk]

It’s uhhhh it’s something that’s for sure

How about you?

[jovial osprey]

I want to become AI ML engineer

[light gate]

very teary today bc i got back a small assessment but i think i'll be okay soon enough, thanks for asking

[light gate]

are you studying cs

[jovial osprey]

Nope

[light gate]

bc ik some places offer ai engineering as a degree

[jovial osprey]

I'm studying bcom but I don't want to do it

[light gate]

ahh, why not

if it's the math, you can't run away from linalg and calc even in another major

[jovial osprey]

As i said you i want to become AI ML engineer

[lone tusk]

I got a 56 on a math exam worth 45% so i’m lowkey dying trying to understand the next concept after missing class for a week bc of my breakup

[jovial osprey]

Yahh

[lone tusk]

Sob

[jovial osprey]

I'm stuck in with math and I'm not so good

[light gate]

you study a b.com, so you might become an ai engineer after graduation!

[jovial osprey]

Just an average

[light gate]

what topic is this :<

do you need help

[jovial osprey]

Yahh I can but without doing bcom also i can become that's whtt I am saying but it's ok

[ocean harbor]

breakup? that sucks I hope ur feeling better

[lone tusk]

Future/present value or ordinary annuallity + inequalities

[lone tusk]

Thank you 🥹

[jovial osprey]

My dad want to make me a businessman he told me to pursue MBA after bcom 💀

But I'm not interested

[lone tusk]

Yeah honestly

[light gate]

not sure you have a significant chance without a degree

[jovial osprey]

I am interested in AI

[ocean harbor]

if I don't understand something in math I always read books and refer to problems then practice

[jovial osprey]

Yahh

[light gate]

good, what have you done so far

[lone tusk]

Do u, it’s ur life. U dont wanna be miserable in a job u dont like bc ur dad said so

[lone tusk]

What books

[light gate]

depends on what youre learning

[ocean harbor]

yep

[jovial osprey]

I had learned python and I am making projects like flappy bird snake game as you know I'm just a beginner so

[ocean harbor]

I got tons of books

[light gate]

oh okayyy

have fun!

[ocean harbor]

I'm too lazy to share them tho

[lone tusk]

Well i wanna master everything before calcus II before next fall semester

[jovial osprey]

Yahh

[jovial osprey]

And now I'm learning linear algebra calculus

[lone tusk]

Including physics & chem 1

[light gate]

don't try reinforcement learning on seemingly simple games so soon (flappy bird is fine), learn more abt programming first

[light gate]

good, you should be doing this early

[jovial osprey]

Programming whtt do you means i finished python recently

[light gate]

one does not "finish" a language

are you fluent enough to code any algorithm you understand in it?

[jovial osprey]

I think python is popular and you should be perfect in one language without learning so many programming languages that you are not good

[light gate]

you're interested in ai, so have you done ml in python?

[jovial osprey]

Not so fluent but I take Ai help in my tasks so

[light gate]

don't do that...

[ocean harbor]

yeah that's bad

[jovial osprey]

Whyy

[light gate]

use ai after you learn to do things yourself

[jovial osprey]

Ml

[ocean harbor]

ur literally replacing urself with ai

[light gate]

@jovial osprey i use ai for boilerplate code and occasionally debugging

[jovial osprey]

Understanding is enough i think as you know it's Ai era so you should take help of ai understanding the basis what do are doing and go on

[light gate]

you want to be an ai engineer, right? not ai engineer

[jovial osprey]

Ai engineer yeahh

[light gate]

how are you going to debug 😭 😭

[jovial osprey]

ML engineer

[light gate]

especially this, theres a lot of theory you have to know

[jovial osprey]

I just started so I don't have much idea

[jovial osprey]

Can you help me with it can you show me the way whtt i need to do plzzzz

[light gate]

@jovial osprey

[jovial osprey]

Yahh

[jovial osprey]

Ml nope

[light gate]

you should start

[jovial osprey]

I only learn python recently and I'm making projects that's it

[light gate]

if you're not fluent in it by year 2 you'll have to catch up

[jovial osprey]

Yess

[light gate]

catching up is not a fun thing

always, always learn stuff in advance

[jovial osprey]

So whtt should I need to do

Now

[light gate]

look at scikit learn and pytorch

do some small projects

maybe join a couple of competitions

[jovial osprey]

Ooh

[light gate]

speaking of which i almost forgot some deadlines

[jovial osprey]

But I'm just a beginner i didn't make any projects

[jovial osprey]

.

[light gate]

what

[agile fiber]

only honorables and mods have remindme permissions

[light gate]

ohhhh

ill set an alarm wait

[jovial osprey]

After making small project like flappy bird and snake game

I will start with small projects and competitions

[light gate]

i suggest you start with mnist

[jovial osprey]

As you said

[light gate]

join hackathons yes

[jovial osprey]

Hackathons

[light gate]

swe is a pain but learn enough of it to build a few simple apps

[jovial osprey]

Mnist ??

[light gate]

learn a few more languages

[light gate]

handwritten digits dataset, search it up

[jovial osprey]

Hey listen

I have sent you friend request can you accept it

[light gate]

sure

[light gate]

bedrotting,,

[neat lintel]

So true

thought on pursuing math bachelor

yay or nay

[neat lintel]

If that is what you want to do, then go for it

[neat lintel]

cant really tell

How come?

lately im really interested in a lot of subject

i want to further study each of them

but i know

In STEM? Or somewhere else

u cant learn all of them

[neat lintel]

most of it stem yes

so i tried to find one that can connect all and the first thought come is math

but im not sure i can broad to my previous interest

so idk TvT

thought ?

[neat lintel]

I am in the same boat being interested in a lot of things. What I would personally do is go for the bachelors and minor in one of the other subjects. The rest could be a cool hobby project. For now, I had to make a plan on what my learning path would be in advancing my current degree in terms of math

ahhhh

wait

i see it

can i ask about the

learning path

what does that mean

like specific field ?

[neat lintel]

For math, since there are a LOT of fields to go into, I had to find the right path in terms of a core understanding, and choosing a particular field later.

So I modeled my path similar to the Harvard Math Department, and I figured it out

what is it

o . o

[neat lintel]

• Calculus
• Linear Algebra
• Discrete Math
• Real Analysis
• Complex Analysis
  (in that order)

Plus doing Wolfram stuff on the side

a lot of analysis o . o

Well, for my future career path, I want to go into Telecom/Semiconductors

woahh

i guess math bachelor is a solid choice

Well, I did want to go off a pure math bachelors, but I decided to do engineering instead. Right now I am finishing my Associates and trying to get an apprenticeship/internship

o wait

the tag

i thought it mean u are in math

i forgot the tag mean the level no

[neat lintel]

Well I could minor in math when I gun for my bachelor's, but that will be awhile before I do that so I am just doing self-teaching

That way I won't get bored

hmmm i never though of minor in some subject before...

hmm hmm

well guess i figure it out thanks for the thought

Of course!

hope your work have a smooth sail

🔥

[spring raptor]

can anyone help

[devout peak]

Sure

[polar temple]

dont u have a degree option like natural sciences?

idk too much about it but it seems like what ur looking for

[fast bear]

hey guys what are yall on?

[neat lintel]

In terms of math? Calculus

[neat lintel]

What is that

[fresh comet]

@fast bear @neat lintel @devout peak welcome to the mathcord

[split void]

What are good books about math to read?

[devout peak]

Thank you brother

[mint canopy]

There are so many that it's essentially impossible to list them all. If you have more specific requirements (so, one specific part of math depending on your current knowledge) maybe you could ask for suggestions in #book-recommendations

[split void]

Thanks

[true zinc]

Any specific fields you want to get into?

[split void]

hmm maybe sets? that seems intresting

[fresh comet]

[cerulean sage]

silverman the arithmetic of elliptic curves

jk, try david cox book on galois theory if you know anything about polynomials, groups, …

if u want to do some galois theory

[deft sorrel]

@true zinc Can i msg you rq?

oh wait

[unkempt moat]

[neat lintel]

[fresh comet]

[neat lintel]

hewwo's hru?

[rocky shuttle]

[lime cypress]

Helloooo

[lapis holly]

Videos are good for learning math in higher education.

[empty mirage]

[empty mirage]

[empty mirage]

I had much to yay about there

[fresh comet]

I'm doing well! how about you?

[neat lintel]

i'm good thanks :3

[fresh comet]

I'm glad to hear

[neat lintel]

watcha up toos?

[neat lintel]

Thank you

[fresh comet]

some math

how about yourself?

[neat lintel]

So true

Plus getting my CV polished

[neat lintel]

samesies hw grinding atm >.<

[fresh comet]

good luck

[neat lintel]

thx thx you too

Meanwhile I am just brushing up on some certs, and getting new ones

[warm umbra]

Welcome to the server @lime cypress @lapis holly

[lime cypress]

Thanks !!

[warm umbra]

Welcome to the server @neat bloom

[glass solar]

imma put this in advanced lounge

[lilac fossil]

Serge Lang's book on multivariable calculus isn't that good

[formal orchid]

couldnt bro have had 1mill?

[sharp mulch]

<@&268886789983436800>

[fresh comet]

hi discussion 2

how's everything? :p

[gusty obsidian]

🫩

[neat lintel]

Pretty good, just did some stuff about sensors

[shut vale]

wha

[polar temple]

Yo @ionic pumice

Did u get my DM

I need another recommendation bro 😭

[surreal sapphire]

https://eprint.iacr.org/2025/1237.pdf turns out dogs outperform quantum computers

[hidden isle]

ENZIICANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[worldly horizon]

ENRIQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[worldly horizon]

!noad

[quasi jetty]

Please do not advertise your help channel or thread in other parts of the server. There are many people who need help, so advertising can quickly turn into spam.

[ocean harbor]

pls help me with my homework its DUE TODAY!

[worldly horizon]

ok

[ocean harbor]

whats 1+1

[worldly horizon]

oh shit im sorry.

[jade summit]

7

[worldly horizon]

maybe you can take that to #advanced-analysis but im just not smart enough for that.

[ocean harbor]

[worldly horizon]

Proof?

[jade summit]

trust me bro

[worldly horizon]

embed failure

[worldly horizon]

HOLY SHIT. OMG YOU’RE LIKE ALBERT EPSTIEN TYPE SHIT

[jade summit]

ok

[jade summit]

[ocean harbor]

prove it

[jade summit]

lemme ask chatgpt

[ocean harbor]

[worldly horizon]

!nogpt

[quasi jetty]

Please do not trust ChatGPT or similar AI tools for mathematical tasks, as they often generate output which "sounds correct" but has numerous factual or logical errors. Use of these AI tools to answer other people's help questions is strictly against server rules (see #rules).

[ocean harbor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/769817529253494814/850960016827482172/image0-4.gif

[jade summit]

[worldly horizon]

NOOO KITTIE

[jade summit]

eat poop

[worldly horizon]

uh, can you delete that.

[mint canopy]

This is not only spam but also directly against the rules

Please don't do that again.

[jade summit]

ok

[ocean harbor]

shit what did i miss 😭

[worldly horizon]

he posted a wall of gpt text

[jade summit]

poop eating competition

🍉

[worldly horizon]

but since you can’t directly copy latex from gpt, it does it vertically and horizontally

9
+
10

9+ 10

for example, get’s spammy quickly

[ocean harbor]

Can
You
Please
Not
Write
Like
This
?

[worldly horizon]

Guess
Fucking
What
I
Was
DOING
it
As
An
Example

-# mods ily so much please don’t boot me

[cold needle]

ok

[echo light]

GFWIWDIAAE

[worldly horizon]

wow so nonchalant 🥹

[half relic]

I’m failing at high school math, how do I get better at it?

[ocean harbor]

read books and start self-studying things on ur own 🙂

[lone tusk]

I wanna adopt a cat

UGH

[half relic]

How do I get started with self studying?

[ocean harbor]

books or online sources

[half relic]

Any specific books you’d recommend?

[ocean harbor]

i dont remember which books i have read in hs but its mostly my textbooks

u can ask in #book-recommendations

[half relic]

I’ll do so, thanks

[iron anvil]

@worldly horizon

[worldly horizon]

hello!

[iron anvil]

hey remember that problem

with double integral

let me open a chat cant post pics here

[untold iron]

infinium

Im so bored lol

[fervent python]

is anybody into matrices and determinants?

[fresh comet]

[twilit parrot]

Find out what you find confusing. Honestly the first step would be to go to your teachers and say I want to get better at math but I feel I’m stuck on the rock bottom. They will know how to help you specifically and professionally. If you rlly don’t wanna do that (but you should) then start with YouTube videos and tutorials on things you guys are currently studying and if that doesn’t make sense then just go back to some lower concepts that build into bigger ones

It would help to know the class ur taking

[half relic]

As in my grade?

[twilit parrot]

No because you could be a freshman taking calculus

Are u like in algebra 1/2? geometry ? Pre calculus? Calc?

[half relic]

I have calculus, yes

[twilit parrot]

Ooo

[half relic]

I have a mix of all of these

[twilit parrot]

That sounds complicated

I think my advice still stands

Asking your teacher since they know you and the class you are taking better than me or anyone else here

Don’t fall behind

You can do this but you gotta take the steps !!!

[half relic]

Alright, will do this

[half relic]

As in, I shouldn’t fall behind the school?

[twilit parrot]

No I meant do not wait to get help. It only gets harder if you don’t understand the concepts

It’s better to catch up rn

[half relic]

True

[half relic]

I’ll get help

[nimble oak]

Hey chat

[ocean harbor]

hi, can anyone help me choose which topic would be best for my technical report?

my suggestions are:

1. how automation is changing the job market
2. the future of artificial intelligence (AI) in everyday life
3. the evolution of computer programming languages

all these suggestions looks good to me but still can't figure out which one to go with

[tawdry pecan]

3. ought to be the easiest to research

also tbh the most interesting to me

[ocean harbor]

good choice

[neat lintel]

The Evolution of computer programming language, I think it's good , others aren't bad either but this one is easier to research on

[vivid halo]

ask chatGPT which of these is more interesting and then ask it to generate sample technical reports

[lunar ruin]

Do a summary of all 3, then keep adding more interesting stuff to each topic. Whichever has the most interesting stuff, pick that one.

[ocean harbor]

I have chosen one

thanks all

[rancid oriole]

Choose whichever you feel most passionate about if you want something that will be easier to work on. Or something st least adjacent to what your consider an issue

Also 2 is less easy to research as theres less previous data to project but if your paper will be more theoretical that is probably the most headline worthy sounding one

Like which one people would most likely click on if they saw it lol

[rancid oriole]

Oh i did not see that, what did you end up choosing?

[outer gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-gif-18145955798726143655

Damnit. Forgot i don’t have active on this acc

[ocean harbor]

3rd one

[rancid oriole]

Loll I see

[unkempt elbow]

#include <stdio.h>

const unsigned long long int HashTableSize = 99999999;
const unsigned long long int NotHashTableHit = (unsigned long long int)-1;

typedef struct HashNode HashNode;

struct HashNode{
    unsigned long long int Hash;
    unsigned long long int x;
    unsigned long long int y;
    unsigned long long int depth;
    HashNode* Next;
};

HashNode HashTable[HashTableSize];

int main(){
    
}

The compiler thinks the array size is not constant size for some reason

[ocean harbor]

thanks for ur suggestion tho

appreciate it

[storm atlas]

Does anyone here know well about college admissions

[manic shell]

3 imho

[manic shell]

Where

I tried in US an UK

[storm atlas]

I go to canadian highschool

[manic shell]

Idk

[ocean harbor]

which college are you trying to apply?

[storm atlas]

Canadian American Australian idk prob canadian

[ocean harbor]

are u an international student or canadian?

in ontario colleges, most of them requires at least have 65 average in ur top 6 and depends on which one do u want to apply

there is no american australia or whatever that is

https://www.ontariocolleges.ca/en/colleges

look up for this

[storm atlas]

International

[storm atlas]

Colleges like as in university?

[storm atlas]

Yeah but im trying for competitive programs and schools and i wanna know the effects of a w

[ocean harbor]

college and university are different

college is community and university is more competitive if u plan like toronto or waterloo

[storm atlas]

Yeah universities

[ocean harbor]

which program if I may ask?

[storm atlas]

Smth stem

Im not quite sure yet

[ocean harbor]

so engineering or math?

have u decided which courses are u taking for ur top 6

most undergraduate universities require u to have hs courses that usually end with a 4U or 4M course code, and they will look at ur highest top 6, which are 4U or 4M courses. u also need to get high average to get in

for example, my top 6 were ICS4U(computer science), MHF4U(advanced functions), MCV4U(calculus and vectors), CLN4U(canadian law), PLF4M(leadership), and ENG4U(english)

of course, I never took any science course after gr10 bc guidance said u dont need them since ur gonna major in cs and now I regret it

pay attention to what u want to do in undergrad bc guidance might mess u around with ur plans, so take ur time and think carefully before choosing what to do 🙂

[storm atlas]

I live in BC idk what they r

[ocean harbor]

british columbia? I dont live there unfortunately

[storm atlas]

When u apply for schools in ontario

Wait can u call

[ocean harbor]

no

[storm atlas]

Oh shoot

[latent edge]

Waterloo 🙂

[storm atlas]

Its based on ur top 6 courses

Usually what do u put?

[ocean harbor]

ya

[storm atlas]

And they wont care much about other courses??

[ocean harbor]

ask ur guidance

[storm atlas]

English Math Physics Chem

[storm atlas]

But they wont look at other courses other than the six? Or

[ocean harbor]

they will look at ur highest top 6 courses

[storm atlas]

Not others?

[ocean harbor]

yep

just focus on courses u want to plan for ur major and get good grades on them

others courses are just meant to graduate hs

when I say focus on ur highest top six I meant its for admissions that ur applying to (uni name and program)

for example, this is uoft

[storm atlas]

But that makes no sense bc like

If a business major gets a f in chem thats fine bc its not required for their major?

[latent edge]

Love how CS requires a higher average

[ocean harbor]

oh im not sure about this

[storm atlas]

Then why would a cs major take bio

Isnt the whole point of doing so to get more competitive and help them with their uni applications

[ocean harbor]

they dont? my guidance didnt give me any science courses when I told them i want to major in cs

i would recommend talking to ur guidance counselor tbh

[storm atlas]

Ok

But you dont think getting a w in a class is that significant

[ocean harbor]

if u plan applying in ontario universities/colleges. both of them have specific websites. for university use ouac website and for college use ocas then fill ur application

[ocean harbor]

what do u mean?

[storm atlas]

Like dropping a course and get a withdrawn

[ocean harbor]

if its not required to ur program then sure

again, speak with ur guidance

[vague eagle]

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[verbal quest]

no advertising without permission
just ask modmail

[reef geode]

I finished applying to PhDs and now I feel so chopped

[vivid halo]

good luck

[reef geode]

I applied to 7 programs but

I only have 2 "safeties" so to speak idk if I applied too aggro

[vivid halo]

market is cooked this year so might as well shoot shot and reapply next year if it doesn't hit

[reef geode]

True

I have a 4.0 and 3 publications and a couple really good award so I'm optimistic

But the market is CHOPPED

Dare I say

Kentucky fried

[vivid halo]

yeah I am similarly fucked but it's okay

I took a year off between finishing undergrad and starting PhD and it was worth it

[reef geode]

Real

If I didn't get into a PhD then I'd probably take the year and self study or like

Idek what

I think my parents would enjoy having me home lol

I do really hope I get into one though

[vivid halo]

yeah that was what I did, I wasn't in a good place to apply to PhDs before finishing undergrad since I transferred from community college

went back home and worked a little bit to save up some money and self studied a ton and it was very worthwhile

[reef geode]

I also transferred but I purposefully

Took an extra year

I make money by being in uni

[vivid halo]

nice

[reef geode]

So I am just using it to save

And also take more electives

[vivid halo]

yeah it's nice to have money saved up

[reef geode]

Only thing that sucked is that I didn't get any money from the Goldwater scholarship lol

Since I made too much money from school

[vivid halo]

I have like $30k saved up at the moment and very thankful that I live frugally enough to do this, like if I end up without a job for 6 months to a year I can just like, travel and network and it's fine

[reef geode]

I would've liked 7500 dollars 😔

I peaked at 18k saved though now I'm closer to 15 because I've had a couple pretty nasty medical issues this year

That have been very expensive

[vivid halo]

yeah I feel that

[reef geode]

Getting surgery soon 😔

The peak of my UG career was the Goldwater scholarship

Rn im kinda just living

Though I'm really enjoying my undergraduate thesis

The rest of everything is boring and alow

[vivid halo]

yeah I feel that, writing my undergrad thesis was when I really felt like "real mathematics" started to make sense and come into view for me, and then a lot of the things I read about in the year after this solidified my current research tastes

[reef geode]

I'm a very spontaneous worker and I feel like my

My brain works well with the thesis lol

It's on graph theory and alforithms

[neat lintel]

one of my research projects this year is on network algorithms :P

[brazen basin]

this chat looks interesting

[brazen basin]

i had one on building a chess bot with a transformer

i have a really good one page blueprint of the architecture

unfortunately could only extract about a 100k good games. Need atleast 1 mil-5 mil for good positional plays. And my potato pc wouldnt help lol

and if i have like 5 mil games thats about 500 mil tokens divide that by 20 about 25 mil parameters and with 2000 as vocab size the embedding dimension grows and we need to downsize other params causing inadequate reasoning space. If we scale others too the model grows too complex for the dataset thus overfitting

[peak elk]

I feel like my math professor has insane expectations, I'm in an independent study and he wants me to have done 26 exercises from some book in the span of two days, and he was like "Oh yeah that should be fine, should all be computational, make sure it's done", and I'm going through it and they're all proofs and the book is terribly (I really mean terribly) written, so every exercise is taking me like 30 minutes to 2 hours.

It's literally an unfinished draft of a textbook that he likes, and he always picks these awful textbooks that only make sense if you already know the subject

And I LOVE textbooks so don't @ me with that I have zoomer brainrot or something, I mean an exercise will just have an equation and you have to figure out if they want you to prove it or do something else with it, because it is literally an unfinished textbook.

[mint loom]

prove it

JKJK

[wheat iris]

guys

guess my celebrity lookalike

[jaunty goblet]

$1 = 5$

[fathom swallow]

𝓓𝓐𝓥𝓘𝓓™

[reef geode]

Fire

[reef geode]

I'm writing a blog post rn about Turing machines on a chess board

Lol

[worldly horizon]

”Name’s David. 7th grade and already doing more than most. I don’t waste time on fake people or boring talk. I speak facts, not fluff. If you can keep up, cool — if not, move aside. 🔥💀”

Bro. 😭

[warm plaza]

lmaooooooooooooo

[worldly horizon]

was the fire and skull emoji absolutely necessary

[worldly horizon]

Btw is your pfp the plot of the gamma function?

[bronze pelican]

Thats crazy... 😭

[worldly horizon]

I know puberty hits some harder than others but jesus christ by the time you’re thirteen do you have to just completely “tuff guy” yourself

[warm plaza]

yep

[worldly horizon]

coolio

[sonic sentinel]

is it just me or is this an overreaction

[scarlet thistle]

What makes tiktok’s algorithm so different

[polar temple]

the emojis made me assume it was satire

i'm tempted to copypaste that bio now

into my own

[worldly horizon]

LMAO

[sonic sentinel]

like yeah cringe tuff bio funny haha

[worldly horizon]

Fair. Maybe it was.

[strange dawn]

@polar temple are you good at pixel art

[polar temple]

no

not really

ive made some decent pixel art for a beginner

but well im a beginner

im getting into art as a hobby

i remember getting into art early 2024 for a bit until i stopped bc i needed to study for school

[strange dawn]

I was gonna say maybe you can do commissions for that 20

[polar temple]

now im getting back

[polar temple]

the problem is im jobless 😂

im finding a job

im praying rn

[strange dawn]

ah, well I suppose this can be a good side hustle if it takes off though that's the hard part

[polar temple]

i realised there are pre-compiled verisons of skia

so if this goes well, aseprite will be compiled

[strange dawn]

have you tried using gpt?

[polar temple]

skia is what was causing my issues

im using gemini

ive been using him the whole time

[strange dawn]

gemini is not that good imo

[polar temple]

idk

idk the difference

i use gemini bc its my phones default

gemini is horrible for coding tho ik that much

[inland birch]

hi ppl this channel looks slower, sorry to bother, I'm trying to learn maths and I need some guidance, in exchange I'm offering language lessons (Japanese, Spanish)

[strange dawn]

Yeah, you should consider switching to gpt if you're looking to diagnose issues

[polar temple]

perhaps

[polar temple]

im sorry but this made me laugh

i didnt expect the last part at all

[inland birch]

ain't coming here empty handed

[strange dawn]

as for the difference, gpt has a lot more data to work off of compared to gemini, gemini is still in it's early llm shell

[polar temple]

@strange dawn

ig ot it working

nice

[strange dawn]

Nice

[inland birch]

if anyone's down I'm down, or if u know anyone who's down, I'm also down to be down for other down people

[polar temple]

what do you specifically need help with tho

[strange dawn]

What's your process when you're making a pixel art piece btw

[polar temple]

a process?

my process is going with the flow

i'm not a professional by any menas

i'm still in the tutorial phase

[strange dawn]

Hmm, right eight

Usually it's a good idea to stick with a well defined palette, of course you can use other intermediate colours but limiting often leads to better results

[inland birch]

I haven't done math since high school, but

1. I think it's super cool
2. I'm gonna need a whole lot of math and mathematical thinking/problem solving skills for the future. I'm aiming to become a researcher
3. I still think it's super cool

4. it's cool

[strange dawn]

aseprite's got a pretty good palette system

[inland birch]

5. everyone should know maths

since I know it would be time intensive, I also give a time commitment on my part, and finally, I thought I'd find people who like maths here, and can make it better

[end of spam sorry]

[strange dawn]

If you're looking to self learn math check out prof leonard, michael penn, black pen red pen (mostly problems based), mit ocw (for early ug and higher) and khan academy (for basics), whichever works best depending on your current level

[inland birch]

thanks I know khan academy and ocw, but I don't have a clear picture of what I'm lacking or other unknown unknowns

[polar temple]

this is the pixel art drawing i'm most fond of (i've made like 2 pixel art drawings)
ignore the body but anyawy this is the only image i could find but i liked the head

its supposed to be an original fakemon starter

i basically just went with the flow lol

[inland birch]

that's mostly the problem. since I haven't done maths in a long time I'm not sure where I should even start, + I want to do it right

I'm a self learner for languages, so I know how to do that

I like 3 blue 1 brown

but there's again, a lot of things

[strange dawn]

that's really good!
I think you just need to spend a little more time practicing and looking at colour theory stuff in pixel art and you're basically a pro

[strange dawn]

hmm, he's mostly pop math-ish so you won't learn a lot there, are you comfortable with algebra?

[polar temple]

why do you think so?

[inland birch]

nope, I remember not paying a lot of attention in hs

[polar temple]

i love bprp

[strange dawn]

start with algebra then

[polar temple]

one of my fav mathtubers

[inland birch]

helps solve problems, and interesting ideas in math are applicable to other things

[inland birch]

oh

alright

[polar temple]

i like maths and do maths but i never considered that "everyone should know maths"

ofc they should know maths at a basic level

[inland birch]

I like his visuals and explanations, I actually watched a couple of videos when I was exploring calculus, but yeah, not a lot

[grand helm]

Anyone active here have experience with applied maths?

[polar temple]

but i didnt think they should know more advanced math like calculus

is why i asked

[inland birch]

hmmm

[fast basin]

Go on to khan academy and take the tests for each grade, if you blow through it then keep taking the tests once you get stumped on a question on a specific grade then you know where to start. It’ll also helo jive your memory on the basics to use for the more complex stuff

[inland birch]

I think people should know the ideas that conform calculus

[grand helm]

I was reading a random book about statistical modeling with python and now I’m interested in applied maths

[inland birch]

have an idea of things

of course not topology

[polar temple]

ngl sometimes in real conversation, i blurt out math terms (sometimes on purpose)

like as time tends to infinity

and im like "but its a sample size of 1"

[inland birch]

that's a very good idea

[polar temple]

my sister gets annoyed 😭

[inland birch]

haha

I saw a video about that

idk iyk a channel called etymology nerd

he talked abt how some people specially in math undergrad programs do that

[grand helm]

Do you guys ever get overwhelmed with the amount of math stuff out there

[polar temple]

not with maths

but with coding

[inland birch]

thank you goldfish2969 I'll do this

like right now

[grand helm]

Like im trying to crack open a book and there’s way too many concepts I’ve never even heard of and im not that bad at math

[polar temple]

i know i can do better in maths along the way

but coding is where the real imposter syndrome comes

so many people my age who'd be worse than me in cs

[fast basin]

It’s also fun cause the problems go quick so you get constant hits if dopamine

[polar temple]

so many people my age who'd be MUCH MUCH better than me in cs

cs has the real nerds

[grand helm]

Same I suck at programming that’s why im doing data analytics instead of software engineering

[polar temple]

i just graduated high school but

my teacher said

[inland birch]

more like the real nerds gravitate towards cs

[polar temple]

he had a student who made a gameboy emulator for his nea project (thats 20% of our grade)

[grand helm]

Easier to type a few lines and run models instead of creating an entire framework for sht

[polar temple]

bros out here making a whole ass emulator at 18

maths does not compare to the potential of cs students

[inland birch]

😭

[grand helm]

If you blend the two you’re unstoppable

Take a look at machine learning

[polar temple]

its craszy cuz half my cs class is actually bad

they get like grade Ds

but

i know theres so many nerds at cs

[grand helm]

Not only do you need elite coding skills you need elite math skills you need elite coding skills

[polar temple]

who can do so much more than me

[inland birch]

lmao

[grand helm]

You’d be surprised man data science is crazy

Creating prediction models to see how many people will enter your store and at which time and creating models for each location

Bro it’s nuts

You need a whole team for that

[inland birch]

it does feel like that sometimes honestly

ig that's the imposter syndrome

[grand helm]

You need to learn high level coding algorithms and on top of that a strong knowledge of applied mathematics and statistics

[inland birch]

also fear of being mid

I speak 3 foreign languages and somehow I still can't seem to register I must be good at it

I think stuff like "hmm I could always speak more" or "there are probably ppl out there who speak 6, I wonder how they do it, I wish I could be as cool as them

@polar temple what sort of things have you done so far with coding?

are you going for a degree in cs at uni?

one has to stop and reflect on whether or not the people one is comparing oneself to and the comparisons being made are reasonable

[night garden]

CS just has a bunch of chopped nerds with their backs bent over

I had this cs teacher for highschool once he was walking as if his back was on life support

[polar temple]

Yea but then it feels too hard